Come on girls, just because you might like Valentino over Chanel, doesn't mean that there needs to be an argument or so much criticism. Save that criticism for cheap impostors. There are plenty these days who are only making copies of classicism instead of entering onto truly creating it.
I only saw her once - Gioconda in SFO, 1969. Like most gr8 theatrical singers she was more than the recordings show. The people who don't like anyone but Callas don't like opera; just Callas. I suppose if I had seen her in person, I would appreciate her more... as is, I just think it's the ugliest voice of any major singer, regardless of her acting talents.
por favor leer qu alguien hable mal de leyla en este rol es el colmo, que tenga por ahi golpes de glotis,q cantante famosa no los ha tenido...y peor aun la señora GENCER era una soprano con una perfecta tecnica y dominio dele stilo belcantista, sin embargo seguro muchos de sus critico s seran los mismos qu creen que la milanov o la cigna eran excelentes normas, cuando ni idea del estilo de bellini tenian, empezando porq ue ambas sopranos no tenian ni trino ni coloratura n messa di voce,
yeah yeah whatever i am a freaking Callasian myself, but while you guys are obssesing over La Callas, im trying to listen to La Gencer here. would you mind arguing about Callas under, i dont know... Callas clips maybe??? k thanx hun ;-)
chi ha ascoltato la Gencer in teatro o in concerto può dire che la sua tecnica era formidabile e che il famoso colpo di glottide era un artificio voluto dalla medesima; la Gencer sapeva eseguire praticamente tutto; ma fra tutte le sue qualità (legato, pianissimi eterei, fraseggio intenso e dizione perfetta) mi piace ricordare quel suo modo di stare in scena, da perfetta diva melodrammatica, ma senza esagitazione.
callas was human, not goddes, don't cheated by the title 'la divina' - l'm huge fan of her though- loving callas dosn't give any clue to disgrade other perfect, wonderfu, thrilling voices. and i think if someone blame la sultana from musical aspect comparing with callas, he/she could'nt know what music is. such perfect voice. and it would be very sorry that the recording monopoly - decca, emi, dg -killed how many wonderful voices which could compete with their stars
gencer was a great artist whether you like her or not. Callas is not my favorite singer but I feel she was definitive in a few roles, especially Lucia. I think it is always unfair to compare singers and it will always be a matter of taste anyway. I am thankful that through the internet, Gencer is more widely known and hopefully her artistry will be appreciated by many. THank you for posting.
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The biggest problem with Gencer and many others.. is that they tried to outdo Callas in her rep.. and you know what?????? it wasn't possible. She needed to pick a different bunch of operas and not follow Callas.. as if that was the path to star status.. well for her it did not end up that way,b ecause most people do not want to hear a singer hiccup her way through a role.
Callas didn't own a repertoire. She was the best in many roles and among the very best in many others, but there's not a Callas repertoire. There's a Bel Canto one, a Verismo one. It's wrong to consider Callas more important (in terms of repertoire) than the composers themselves. Gencer didn't "follow" Callas because many of her best roles were never sung by her, and you must remember the theaters invited Gencer to sing them. She wouldn't say what operas should be staged everywhere.
@Homoclassicus Thanx for that! ...but I don't think anyone will convince the fanatics -- and it seems to be a waste of time to try to open their minds.
@Homoclassicus callas did not own the repertoire but she own the role she sing she was the best Norma of the 20 century hands down now with that said it does not mean Gencer was not great i love her she is awsome in everything she did and this Norma is great emotional dramatic true to her own art... better then callas i dont know if she was but one thing both are goddes of the stage and untill today no one like them maybe Cavalle
@kgarmaker123 I completely agree of course! Maria Callas existed and will exist forever in her Legacy, The problem here is that Maria can´t be compared she Was and Is SO Special and Unique in every sense!!!
@kgarmaker123 I am an ardent Callasiano, but as well an ardent Genceriano. The only think that we have to consider about these artists is that they deliver with their voices the very essence of the music they were singing, even if we do or not agree with the means used. And La Divina was not flawless, but this is something totally ridiculous to discuss, because if we know exactly how to do things, why dont we do them? I used to make very bad comments when i didnt like something. Now, i just dont
This is beautifully sung. I'm a huge Callas fan, but there is room in Opera for more than one singer. Lay off bashing artists in public. All you do when you bad-mouth a singer here on youtube is expose your ugly, mean spiritedness. Grow up, lay off badmouthing Dead Divas. If you don't like Gencer, don't listen to her. I have almost every recording Callas made, I'm nuts for her, but there's a lot to be said for Gencer. Leave your uglness at home, it is REVOLTING.
@kgarmaker123 I'm not going to get into a big discussion of Bel Canto Style. My point is, if you don't like a singer, DON'T listen to him/her, and lay off the Arm Chair Opera Singing. Jeez, I wonder how many of these experts have actually sung Norma? Or anything for that matter? I can't really read the comments here, for the most part they are childish and ridiculous. It can ruin youtube for you if you let it.
@hchristopher1 Look, how do you know whether you like a singer or not until you listen to a variety of their work... Just simply listening to one aria or role is not enough.. Glottals seems to be habitual with Ms. Gencer. And for your information... I DO NOT LISTEN ANYMORE TO HER.. I do not like her. I have heard enough.
Gencer est et restera une artiste majeure du XXème siècle. Sa Norma, différente de celle de Callas, est une incarnation grandiose et sublissimement émouvante.
@sezgin86 Excuse me... but hwere else do you hear such plebian singing? Not from Callas, Sutherland, Tebaldi, Freni, Moffo etc... none of them and more use that method of singing, which sounds like hiicups to me.. and is awful.
@kgarmaker123 Callas has glottal sounds! If you listen to her carefully you'll hear them all. And I'm fed up with your non-essential and unabashed comments on Leyla Gencer. If you don't like her why on earth are you listening to her videos??? Get lost and drown in your "Callas World" and leave these pages clean form your stupid comments!!!
@sezgin86 You know you and people like you are the problem on You tube.. You are so hung up on one singer, that you cannot listen to any valid criticism of her singing, or her career.. While I think a lot of Callas, there is plenty for people not to like .. and I recognize that.. The person that needs to get lost is you.. in listening to proper singing. Why do you think that Gencer did not have a big career? Some of it was the choices she made, vocally, musically and artistically..
@kgarmaker123 Yes, I'm hung up on Leyla Gencer but I don't humiliate other singers even though they mess up with the score, music, drama in order not to disturb the ones who like them. Who am I to know better than those singers or who are you to call Gencer a second class singer? There are nearly 100 comments here. I read them all! Except you and few other Gencer haters everyone adores her!! See who is the problem on Youtube?? And Gencer had a huge career than you could even think about!!!
@sezgin86 I am not a Gencer hater, I am just not mesmerized.. I have heard her in things I like, and mostly.. I find her attacks to be not in keeping with bel canto... These glottals are not Clean attacks. But so be it.. I do not even presume to have a career like hers.. but I know good singing when i hear it..
@sezgin86 Please listen to the 1953.. version of Callas in Lucia's first act aria, and tell me she used glottal attacks.. She did not.. and it is bel canto. Thats why every disucssion ends up about Callas in some respect or not, because she did things RIGHT... not half assed.
@kgarmaker123 Why should she use glottal attacks in Lucia di Lammermoor??? She cannot reflect the drama underlying the music with glottal sounds there in Lucia! Listen to Gencer's Lucia, Gilda, Elvira from I Puritani right now and tell me if she has any glottal sounds there!
@sezgin86 She should not, and it is bel canto.. Those glottal that Gencer used and overused, do not communicate drama, they communicate some underlying, problem with stomach gas.
@kgarmaker123 this is beautifully sung, it is your loss that you cant hear it. but i tell you, you dont know what you´re missing. you have every right to be fixated on glottal attacks, but in my opinion, they only enhance the sufering and pain of norma, and pain and suffering are not beautiful are they, callas had an unconventional timbre, gencer had glottals
@kgarmaker123 I'm not trying to convince you. I don't care to whom you listen, or if you listen. YOUR ALL CAPS SCREAMING IS UGLY. And you proved my point about youtube.
@AulicExclusiva Wasn't it Callas who ridiculed Tetrazzini's voice? And I know Galli-Curci had some negative criticism about Callas' singing. That's life! Callas is the touchstone of almost every discussion about bel canto and verismo opera. Even Gencer stated that Callas was her heroine. I love them all, including Gencer. Caballe was also quite a Norma, and Sutherland is great for "Casta Diva." Also, don't forget Elinor Ross (not Russ, who was wonderful too). Thanks for forwarding, AE!
@AuthenticFeirce I don't recall exactly, but understand that Callas laughed upon hearing her voice on record. She probably thought Tetrazzini was a typical pipsqueak coloratura (Sutherland's term, although she admired Tetrazzini). If Callas thought Tetrazzini a light soprano, who knows what she thought about Galli-Curci!
@meltzerboy Perhaps wasn't Callas referring to Tetrazzini's "lightish" style of singing more than to her voice? I mean, even through the bad audio of her ancient recordings, Tetrazzini's voice sounds quite lush and sizeable in comparison to any other coloratura soprano of her time, however I find her singing somewhat deprived of more details, nuances and, to put it simply, "soul". :-)
@Homoclassicus It may be Callas was referring to Tetrazzini's style rather than the quality of voice, but I'm not sure. Yes, Tetrazzini's voice sounds more powerful and substantial than most other coloraturas of her time; however, it still registers as a rather light soprano compared to some of the spintos and dramatics who recorded. I don't agree that Tetrazzini's singing lacks soul; just the opposite, there is a lot of soul in its spontaneity although perhaps some lack of details or nuance.
@AuthenticFeirce I read it but don't remember the source off-hand. Yes, Elvira de Hidalgo was far from perfect; certainly not in the same league as Tetrazzini.
First of all, when it is done with this kind of mastery and utter humility to Bellini's great score, it is Bellini who is the star. Like all artists who don't sing "comme il faut" her art is a living statement of her approach to the music, such as this the greatest role for soprano. Her "gracious tragedy" is felt deeply by this listener. So similar to Maria in many ways, but yet she found her own language within bel canto and she makes a stunning impression here.
on peut ne pas aimer cette version d'une part ancienne en live sachant que La Gencer a toujours refusé de travailler en studio et de manipuler sa voix, mais personne ne purra jamais dire que ce n'était pas une artiste exeptionnelle
Saw her in Traviata in Phila in 1959 and STILL remember it. You may see many operas, but FEW will leave a lasting impression, especially one that lasts 50 years!
Say what you will, this is GREAT singing. I had the fortune to see some of her last performances, and it was ALWAYS an event. It's not just the singing, it's the complete participation of body and soul into what she's acting. And it comes out in these pirate recordings.
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I am sorry, but bel canto is just THE OPPOSITE of these glottal attacks which are indeed vey ugly here, even if Gencer is not ugly on the whole. She doesn't really respect the style of the music here !!
Votre connaissance du "bel canto" est limitée. Le "coup de glotte" est l'un des nombreux ornements présents dès Monteverdi : le "bel canto" (inventé à cette époque et régnant ensuite jusqu'après Bellini) visait , par toutes sortes de moyens vocaux, à perturber et émouvoir l'âme grâce aux "affetti" du texte. Le "coup de glotte" existe dans tous les traités aussi bien au XVIIème qu'au XVIIIème siècle. Gencer en fait peut-être trop, mais elle n'est pas du tout "hors style".
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La vôtre n'est pas très précise.... Au niveau "technique vocale", vous êtes limité. Les coups de glotte servent ici à faciliter l'émission...Et s'ils sont liés au "bel canto" traditionnel, dans le cadre de l'expression, ils doivent être moins appuyés qu'ils ne le sont ici. Même s'ils sont dans les "traités" des XVII° et XVII°, je maintiens qu'ils sont hors de propos chez Bellini en 1831. Je n'en suis pas un inconditionnel, mais écoutez Callas, et vous entendrez la différence...
She uses her chest voice only two times in this aria and there are no breaks between the chest and head voice. I think you mean those glottal attacks. They are used as ornamentation in bel canto style. She is trying to give the despair effect by conveying cry (glottal attacs). If you dont like bel canto it is agreeable but you cannot say that Gencer is terrible or ugly here.
Never heard of Gencerž?! OMG, there is SO MUCH of her you have to discover, that you better start right now! :) There are many clips on youtube and I can tell you more about her if you are interested, so you welcome to write to me.
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Yes, and when Gencer says "I think I have it, too", she is a little bit immodest. After all, what she is doing here is quite good, but nothing exceptional. Are you following me?
Excuse me, is this 1965 Scala performance where she is partnered by Prevedi as Pollione and (I think) Cossotto as Adalgisa? I've read there is a CD recording of that live performance available for sale. By the way, I've heard the great duet In mia man from that performance here on youtube and both Gencer and Prevedi are AWESOME in the duet.
I saw Gencer in Lucrezia Borgia in Dallasin the 70s; and at a gala a the SF opera. She was a superb Lucrezia but had vocal problems in the latter. Regardless, she was a major singer of the 60s and 70s - one of the gods of opera. Relax, be less critical, and enjoy this great artist.
Norma is such a interesting role, especially with Gencer. Gencer was the only who really did it like a bel canto singer, that's why it's completely different to Sutherland,Callas and Sills. So i think that Gencer does it best in one way because it's properly as it's supposed to be when she sings it. Sutherland and CAllas, no..not att all...strange carreers, neither of them could do a beautiful high note or the glorius thrills that Sills always could do even in the last..
You're entitled to your taste, but there's some lack of truth in what you say. Sutherland and Callas sang undoubtedly in proper Bel Canto syle. Besides, Sutherland and Callas had better trills than Sills, who had great ones but not as agile and stable. They also didn't have strange careers, at least not stranger than Sills' (who was a lyric leggero and sang dramatic roles) and Gencer's (who, by her own words, sang roles she wasn't ideal to).
Gencer was not Callas and Callas was not Gencer, two very different singers and both did an aweful lot to revive the belcanto repertoire, Gencer even more so. Both emotionally charged singers whose intepretations will survive the test of time. Both using various techniques to drammatic effect. There are many of their contemporaries from the 50/60 and even 70ties who sound dated and old fashioned. These two one can keep listening to over and over again, fantastic!
I don't understand why people (including critics) say that Gencer is a bad singer. Listen to the sound of this video to realize that the truth is the opposite: she has good phrasing, easy high notes and a true emotion. She is not Callas but she is fine.
If you base this on most objective criteria, you are right, however, the critics objected to her repeasted glottal attacks.. there are many in this short aria. .. When people wonder why Maria Callas was considered to be so great, all they have to do is listen, really listen to her art during 50-60... and.. if they can get by an occasional wobbled or strident high note in 59 and 60, you will find, clean, highly musical, musically accurate, and emotive singing. uneven.
what '59 or '60 ? In 1959 Callas opera career was happily an horrible memory of the disastrous singer she had been in her very short opera career (1948//58)
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Whatever, the example was of No, NOn tremare.. Even callas in the 1960 example is better than Gencer..glottal attacks abound, missed high notes.. Incorrect rhythms, missed florid notes. Terrible singing. Say all you want about the wobble. She still sang better than these imposters.
Callas was a cold singer ,boring, always weeping voice.Callas high notes were DREADFUL since the begining of her very short career, dreadful unsteady, thin and small, Callas never could hit a beautiful firm high note
Callas sings everything with voce piangente, like weeping, she is always vulnerable but she had no great power, part because of her almost small voice and part because of her greekamerican personality that has nothing to do with italian opera
Actually, all those who saw Callas live say she had a huge voice in her early prime and still a large voice later on. I think you are misguided by recordings or had a wrong perception about her. She did use a lot of "voce piangente", as you say it, but that's what many operas do need. However, anyone who has heard her recordings as Lady Macbeth, Abigaille or Norma knows she had all the possible variations of mood, colour or volume necessary to each moment in an opera.
Well, then you say it. Everybody's entitled to an opinion. But, as I can see, you are 61, so you was a child when Callas was in her prime. Did you see some of her performances live? That said, I must add I'm getting really annoyed because of all this "only Italians know opera" thing. Opera has been an international musical genre for more than 350 years, and even in the earlier 20th century the majority of great artists weren't from Italy, which is a great place for opera, but not the only one.
Essentially, her voice got much smaller over time, as is born out by "live" sets. Siepi experienced her singing when a young woman first making a sensation in Italy (late 40s/early'50s) and speaks of voluminous tones. Another musician at La Scala at the time of her Scala VESPRI debut speaks of low notes that were as massive as Elmo's. Bonynge at the time of her first NORMAs speaks of her power as comparable to Flagstad's. But then, Met habitues from '56 on speak of her middling vocal size.
This "alleged" argument cannot be going on decades after her death!Yawn.Apparently Rich.Tucker misheard her "giant voiced" Gioconda when they appeared together in Verona.Turandot shows her blasting Del Monaco into oblivion during their duet.Their AidainMexico Cityshows much the same.I guess Tullio Serafin could have learned a thing or two from YOU when casting her as Brunnhilde, Isolde, Turandot and Kundry.Naturally you channel yourself back and u carry a seismometer w/you.U r a pathetic cliche.
Ridiculous. From 1947-1952 her voice was HUGE. Witnesses, critics and colleagues who sang with her said this. And it's obvious for everyone with ears. Past 1953 she was a dramatic coloratura, with enough to sing Norma at the Met. Creature of the studio? BAH. Her live recordings are the gems of her legacy.
Now to Gencer: This is one of the BEST versions of this aria I have EVER heard. Thank you, Homoclassicus.
@Elisabetta611 That's true. Sutherland often referred in interviews to the amazing hugeness of early Callas' voice, saying it was a massive wall of sound. And I bet Sutherland knew one thing or two about vocal size, since she herself had one of the hugest voices ever heard in Opera Houses.
@bonanplu You are very wrong.. and YOu know how I know? Joan Sutherland is interviewed, many years after Maria Callas death.. and she said, her voice up through 1955 was HUGE.. And it takes one to know one.. as Joan had a big voice too.. So you Bonaplu.. just have an issue that Callas did more in a short time than anyone else.. Too bad and so sad. for you.
@Homoclassicus ,i saw Callas 10 time at La Scala (and Tebaldi,Caballè,Sutherland,Devia....) she sang with Del Monaco ,Corelli,Stignani,Simionato and the voice was great,with marvelous squillo.the conductors were in love.Gencer IMO was very very fine,no small voice.I remember in Florenz a great Lady with Muti and a concert with inchanting Lieder of Chopin.
OH Y GOD!!! You have made what I consider the most IDIOTIC comment that I have read on any of these blogs! And I have read thousands!! I know people who sang with Callas and others who have heard her sing, and all confirm that her voice was huge!! You are a loser!!!
were you there to really confirm that?... were all of you there?... I guess not. Because what I´ve read says completely the opposite and it wasn´t just John Doe who said it. Anyway, who cares?
Callas' voice was never "little", she was singing Fidelio in her teens for goodness sakes!! She moved to a different repertoire which she considered better for her voice because she never liked the straight dramatic roles she had to sing earlier. She dispissed Tosca for example, and she adored singing I Puritani.
I completely agree with you! How can anyone say she is cold?! All her interpretations were deeply and genuinely HUMAN! And I see Gencer has the similar ability to express emotions with her singing, so I quite enjojy her Norma.
I totally agree. My favorite norma is Callas in the 1955 live recoridng at la Scala with Del Monaco and simionato. This was a time when Callas was at a perfect balance between total mastery of her voice , and toal mastery of her emotions. A very, very close second is Leyla Gencer.
Addio, Leyla ! Vous resterez au Panthéon des Vraies Voix, de celles qui n'ont pas fléchi devant le chantage médiatique et bourgeois ! Que votre Voix nous reste en témoignage de votre droiture et de votre charisme... autant de choses que les médias ne pourront jamais se payer à coups de publicité ! Brava, canti per l'eternità cogli angeli vicino ai Dei della beltà...
Not only emotions, it's about putting vocal technique at the service of the music too. Many people here on YT seem impressed as long as someone sounds all worked up. Gencer IS very passionate, but how does she achieve this? not tearing her hair out, but by seeking vocal colour, intensity, there is wonderful control in the line here - and in a role that is actually too much for her, she takes a risk and wins, she does makes some gutsy sounds too but always FROM and not ON the music. Not verismo.
no interesa si la cuenta de Moreno2394 es suspendida o no, Leyla Gencer reposará en paz y siempre será una de las grandes, sin importar lo que Moreno2394 diga o deje de decir
todo el mundo, inclusive tu, tiene el derecho de tener opinion propia, aun si esa opinion es estupida o irracional. ahora, yo te voy a decir algo morenito2394, mucha gente, algunos mas importantes y mas entendidos que tu; opina todo lo contrario de lo que dices
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yarinyapayalniz 1 week ago
Shw is a great soprano .First time I'm listening her.Bellisimo.
MsSandtime 2 weeks ago
Wow, I always thought that Maria Callas is alone in her own class.
Leyla Gencer is actually in the same class!
There is La Divina, and there is La Regina! .
Ellevius 1 month ago 2
Malgré quelques accents véristes, c'est sublime : le chant, l'interprétation, tout y est !
levieuxpiano 2 months ago
Quel dommage que Gencer n'ait pas été davantage enregistrée! Quasiment autant d'émotion que Callas, avec en plus de beaux aigus!
blidgi 2 months ago
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ayseemek 2 months ago
Strepitosa La Gencer.
hchristopher1 3 months ago
we are still proud ! though she is not known by many Turks, what a shame. goosebumps many many.
cucuk666 4 months ago
we are still proud ! though she is not known by many Turks, what a shame. goose bumps many many.
cucuk666 4 months ago
we are still proud ! though she is not known by many Turks, what a shame.
cucuk666 4 months ago
LOVE YOU....
baritenor34 5 months ago
Awesome.TY Homo for posting
paulostroff99 6 months ago
this is leyla at her very best.
what is your problem? leyla, maria, who else?
this are simply great artists, do not destroy them.
thanks heaven that we had and have all this great singers
jocmuc1 8 months ago 10
Un peu trop de coup de glotte.
abracadabranque 8 months ago
La Diva Turca,may rest in peace,love u
ugentera1 9 months ago 3
rest in peace leyla gencer!
FasterNinja 10 months ago
Brividi
barakp26 11 months ago
Brava Gencer great Norma
MAPIAKALLAS 1 year ago 3
Come on girls, just because you might like Valentino over Chanel, doesn't mean that there needs to be an argument or so much criticism. Save that criticism for cheap impostors. There are plenty these days who are only making copies of classicism instead of entering onto truly creating it.
Twisterjoe 1 year ago 4
I only saw her once - Gioconda in SFO, 1969. Like most gr8 theatrical singers she was more than the recordings show. The people who don't like anyone but Callas don't like opera; just Callas. I suppose if I had seen her in person, I would appreciate her more... as is, I just think it's the ugliest voice of any major singer, regardless of her acting talents.
Randidan 1 year ago 3
Stunning! TY.
paulostroff99 1 year ago
por favor leer qu alguien hable mal de leyla en este rol es el colmo, que tenga por ahi golpes de glotis,q cantante famosa no los ha tenido...y peor aun la señora GENCER era una soprano con una perfecta tecnica y dominio dele stilo belcantista, sin embargo seguro muchos de sus critico s seran los mismos qu creen que la milanov o la cigna eran excelentes normas, cuando ni idea del estilo de bellini tenian, empezando porq ue ambas sopranos no tenian ni trino ni coloratura n messa di voce,
gencerito 1 year ago
Amazing... I have all Gencer's live Normas. Whata voice... in the top 5 Normas ever!
TheWisemonkey8 1 year ago
@TheWisemonkey8 Could you let me know what "labels" the Normas are on? That's one of her roles that i don't have...
Randidan 1 year ago
yeah yeah whatever i am a freaking Callasian myself, but while you guys are obssesing over La Callas, im trying to listen to La Gencer here. would you mind arguing about Callas under, i dont know... Callas clips maybe??? k thanx hun ;-)
SiEtIn1 1 year ago
chi ha ascoltato la Gencer in teatro o in concerto può dire che la sua tecnica era formidabile e che il famoso colpo di glottide era un artificio voluto dalla medesima; la Gencer sapeva eseguire praticamente tutto; ma fra tutte le sue qualità (legato, pianissimi eterei, fraseggio intenso e dizione perfetta) mi piace ricordare quel suo modo di stare in scena, da perfetta diva melodrammatica, ma senza esagitazione.
mongemark 1 year ago 2
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firatcim 1 year ago
callas was human, not goddes, don't cheated by the title 'la divina' - l'm huge fan of her though- loving callas dosn't give any clue to disgrade other perfect, wonderfu, thrilling voices. and i think if someone blame la sultana from musical aspect comparing with callas, he/she could'nt know what music is. such perfect voice. and it would be very sorry that the recording monopoly - decca, emi, dg -killed how many wonderful voices which could compete with their stars
icylakepaxphile 1 year ago
Horrendous glottal attacks. Not bel canto.
troppofiato 1 year ago
gencer was a great artist whether you like her or not. Callas is not my favorite singer but I feel she was definitive in a few roles, especially Lucia. I think it is always unfair to compare singers and it will always be a matter of taste anyway. I am thankful that through the internet, Gencer is more widely known and hopefully her artistry will be appreciated by many. THank you for posting.
millriv 1 year ago 4
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The biggest problem with Gencer and many others.. is that they tried to outdo Callas in her rep.. and you know what?????? it wasn't possible. She needed to pick a different bunch of operas and not follow Callas.. as if that was the path to star status.. well for her it did not end up that way,b ecause most people do not want to hear a singer hiccup her way through a role.
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
Callas didn't own a repertoire. She was the best in many roles and among the very best in many others, but there's not a Callas repertoire. There's a Bel Canto one, a Verismo one. It's wrong to consider Callas more important (in terms of repertoire) than the composers themselves. Gencer didn't "follow" Callas because many of her best roles were never sung by her, and you must remember the theaters invited Gencer to sing them. She wouldn't say what operas should be staged everywhere.
Homoclassicus 1 year ago 22
@Homoclassicus Thanx for that! ...but I don't think anyone will convince the fanatics -- and it seems to be a waste of time to try to open their minds.
Randidan 1 year ago
@Homoclassicus
Well it is clear that you are Callas lover, i am sure..:))) that s the proplem with opera lovers , they think they know a lot...
wakeuphumanity2012 1 year ago
@Homoclassicus callas did not own the repertoire but she own the role she sing she was the best Norma of the 20 century hands down now with that said it does not mean Gencer was not great i love her she is awsome in everything she did and this Norma is great emotional dramatic true to her own art... better then callas i dont know if she was but one thing both are goddes of the stage and untill today no one like them maybe Cavalle
MAPIAKALLAS 1 year ago 3
@MAPIAKALLAS it`s Caballe not Cavalle
callas777 10 months ago
@Homoclassicus and let's not forget Wagner in Callas's early career, her brunnhilde's and isoldes ;)
belcunto 11 months ago
@kgarmaker123 You mean glottal attacks are hiccups? Hahahaha. That started my morning on the right foot. Very funny!
sillyboydeux 1 year ago 2
@sillyboydeux Yes thats exactly what i mean.. They do not sound like singing to me. . sounds like she needs to buy some Gas-X
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
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wolftaylan 1 year ago
@kgarmaker123 I completely agree of course! Maria Callas existed and will exist forever in her Legacy, The problem here is that Maria can´t be compared she Was and Is SO Special and Unique in every sense!!!
roeslerswiss 1 year ago
@kgarmaker123 I am an ardent Callasiano, but as well an ardent Genceriano. The only think that we have to consider about these artists is that they deliver with their voices the very essence of the music they were singing, even if we do or not agree with the means used. And La Divina was not flawless, but this is something totally ridiculous to discuss, because if we know exactly how to do things, why dont we do them? I used to make very bad comments when i didnt like something. Now, i just dont
charmeueueur 4 months ago 3
@kgarmaker123 I dont mean by any means that your comment is offensive.
charmeueueur 4 months ago
This is beautifully sung. I'm a huge Callas fan, but there is room in Opera for more than one singer. Lay off bashing artists in public. All you do when you bad-mouth a singer here on youtube is expose your ugly, mean spiritedness. Grow up, lay off badmouthing Dead Divas. If you don't like Gencer, don't listen to her. I have almost every recording Callas made, I'm nuts for her, but there's a lot to be said for Gencer. Leave your uglness at home, it is REVOLTING.
hchristopher1 1 year ago 5
@hchristopher1 The only ugliness is the glottals.. They are wrong!
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
@kgarmaker123 I'm not going to get into a big discussion of Bel Canto Style. My point is, if you don't like a singer, DON'T listen to him/her, and lay off the Arm Chair Opera Singing. Jeez, I wonder how many of these experts have actually sung Norma? Or anything for that matter? I can't really read the comments here, for the most part they are childish and ridiculous. It can ruin youtube for you if you let it.
hchristopher1 1 year ago
@hchristopher1 Look, how do you know whether you like a singer or not until you listen to a variety of their work... Just simply listening to one aria or role is not enough.. Glottals seems to be habitual with Ms. Gencer. And for your information... I DO NOT LISTEN ANYMORE TO HER.. I do not like her. I have heard enough.
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
@hchristopher1 Couldn't have said it better myself!! Thanx!
Randidan 1 year ago
for me and my ears, gencer is ideal for this role.
i like her voice, her technique and that her singing means always the figure she
does and not herself.
jocmuc1 1 year ago 2
Gencer est et restera une artiste majeure du XXème siècle. Sa Norma, différente de celle de Callas, est une incarnation grandiose et sublissimement émouvante.
operasfab 1 year ago
the glottals remind me of Caballe.. .. very inartistic.
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
@kgarmaker123 Search for bel canto singing first!!
sezgin86 1 year ago
@sezgin86 Excuse me... but hwere else do you hear such plebian singing? Not from Callas, Sutherland, Tebaldi, Freni, Moffo etc... none of them and more use that method of singing, which sounds like hiicups to me.. and is awful.
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
@kgarmaker123 Callas has glottal sounds! If you listen to her carefully you'll hear them all. And I'm fed up with your non-essential and unabashed comments on Leyla Gencer. If you don't like her why on earth are you listening to her videos??? Get lost and drown in your "Callas World" and leave these pages clean form your stupid comments!!!
sezgin86 1 year ago 2
@sezgin86 You know you and people like you are the problem on You tube.. You are so hung up on one singer, that you cannot listen to any valid criticism of her singing, or her career.. While I think a lot of Callas, there is plenty for people not to like .. and I recognize that.. The person that needs to get lost is you.. in listening to proper singing. Why do you think that Gencer did not have a big career? Some of it was the choices she made, vocally, musically and artistically..
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
@kgarmaker123 Yes, I'm hung up on Leyla Gencer but I don't humiliate other singers even though they mess up with the score, music, drama in order not to disturb the ones who like them. Who am I to know better than those singers or who are you to call Gencer a second class singer? There are nearly 100 comments here. I read them all! Except you and few other Gencer haters everyone adores her!! See who is the problem on Youtube?? And Gencer had a huge career than you could even think about!!!
sezgin86 1 year ago
@sezgin86 I am not a Gencer hater, I am just not mesmerized.. I have heard her in things I like, and mostly.. I find her attacks to be not in keeping with bel canto... These glottals are not Clean attacks. But so be it.. I do not even presume to have a career like hers.. but I know good singing when i hear it..
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
@sezgin86 Please listen to the 1953.. version of Callas in Lucia's first act aria, and tell me she used glottal attacks.. She did not.. and it is bel canto. Thats why every disucssion ends up about Callas in some respect or not, because she did things RIGHT... not half assed.
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
@kgarmaker123 Why should she use glottal attacks in Lucia di Lammermoor??? She cannot reflect the drama underlying the music with glottal sounds there in Lucia! Listen to Gencer's Lucia, Gilda, Elvira from I Puritani right now and tell me if she has any glottal sounds there!
sezgin86 1 year ago
@sezgin86 She should not, and it is bel canto.. Those glottal that Gencer used and overused, do not communicate drama, they communicate some underlying, problem with stomach gas.
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
@kgarmaker123 A comment just suiting to a moron!
sezgin86 1 year ago
@kgarmaker123 this is beautifully sung, it is your loss that you cant hear it. but i tell you, you dont know what you´re missing. you have every right to be fixated on glottal attacks, but in my opinion, they only enhance the sufering and pain of norma, and pain and suffering are not beautiful are they, callas had an unconventional timbre, gencer had glottals
SiEtIn1 1 year ago
@SiEtIn1 You are not convincing me.. She had issues.. period..
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
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@kgarmaker123 I'm not trying to convince you. I don't care to whom you listen, or if you listen. YOUR ALL CAPS SCREAMING IS UGLY. And you proved my point about youtube.
hchristopher1 1 year ago 2
Why is it that every discussion about every recording must become an argument about that blasted Callas female??
Leyla Gencer was every bit as great a Norma, and twice the woman.
AulicExclusiva 1 year ago
@AulicExclusiva Wasn't it Callas who ridiculed Tetrazzini's voice? And I know Galli-Curci had some negative criticism about Callas' singing. That's life! Callas is the touchstone of almost every discussion about bel canto and verismo opera. Even Gencer stated that Callas was her heroine. I love them all, including Gencer. Caballe was also quite a Norma, and Sutherland is great for "Casta Diva." Also, don't forget Elinor Ross (not Russ, who was wonderful too). Thanks for forwarding, AE!
meltzerboy 1 year ago
@meltzerboy I love Callas' singing. It's her relentless, know-nothing fans I can't stomack. Present company exempted, of course. :))
Elynor Ross from Miami, Florida! She was a fine Donna Anna. I've never heard her Norma.
AulicExclusiva 1 year ago
@meltzerboy What did she say about Tetrazinni's voice ?
AuthenticFeirce 1 year ago
@AuthenticFeirce I don't recall exactly, but understand that Callas laughed upon hearing her voice on record. She probably thought Tetrazzini was a typical pipsqueak coloratura (Sutherland's term, although she admired Tetrazzini). If Callas thought Tetrazzini a light soprano, who knows what she thought about Galli-Curci!
meltzerboy 1 year ago
@meltzerboy Perhaps wasn't Callas referring to Tetrazzini's "lightish" style of singing more than to her voice? I mean, even through the bad audio of her ancient recordings, Tetrazzini's voice sounds quite lush and sizeable in comparison to any other coloratura soprano of her time, however I find her singing somewhat deprived of more details, nuances and, to put it simply, "soul". :-)
Homoclassicus 1 year ago
@Homoclassicus It may be Callas was referring to Tetrazzini's style rather than the quality of voice, but I'm not sure. Yes, Tetrazzini's voice sounds more powerful and substantial than most other coloraturas of her time; however, it still registers as a rather light soprano compared to some of the spintos and dramatics who recorded. I don't agree that Tetrazzini's singing lacks soul; just the opposite, there is a lot of soul in its spontaneity although perhaps some lack of details or nuance.
meltzerboy 1 year ago
@meltzerboy Where did you find this information at ? I never knew this. Considering that her teacher had her faults of her own
AuthenticFeirce 1 year ago
@AuthenticFeirce I read it but don't remember the source off-hand. Yes, Elvira de Hidalgo was far from perfect; certainly not in the same league as Tetrazzini.
meltzerboy 1 year ago
calas was her idol.
tissetatten 1 year ago
First of all, when it is done with this kind of mastery and utter humility to Bellini's great score, it is Bellini who is the star. Like all artists who don't sing "comme il faut" her art is a living statement of her approach to the music, such as this the greatest role for soprano. Her "gracious tragedy" is felt deeply by this listener. So similar to Maria in many ways, but yet she found her own language within bel canto and she makes a stunning impression here.
sillyboydeux 1 year ago 4
on peut ne pas aimer cette version d'une part ancienne en live sachant que La Gencer a toujours refusé de travailler en studio et de manipuler sa voix, mais personne ne purra jamais dire que ce n'était pas une artiste exeptionnelle
illfurter 2 years ago
Saw her in Traviata in Phila in 1959 and STILL remember it. You may see many operas, but FEW will leave a lasting impression, especially one that lasts 50 years!
00193900 2 years ago 25
@00193900 -Well said.She was a superstar to be sure.
paulostroff99 6 months ago
Say what you will, this is GREAT singing. I had the fortune to see some of her last performances, and it was ALWAYS an event. It's not just the singing, it's the complete participation of body and soul into what she's acting. And it comes out in these pirate recordings.
sorobji 2 years ago 2
Leyla Gencer has the most greatest voice on earth. what an emotinal voice!
buraklovessertab 2 years ago 2
I really like Leyla Gencer and find that she's absolutely amazing in this very emotional performace. Much like Callas.
callasadmirer 2 years ago 9
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I am sorry, but bel canto is just THE OPPOSITE of these glottal attacks which are indeed vey ugly here, even if Gencer is not ugly on the whole. She doesn't really respect the style of the music here !!
breton2 2 years ago
Votre connaissance du "bel canto" est limitée. Le "coup de glotte" est l'un des nombreux ornements présents dès Monteverdi : le "bel canto" (inventé à cette époque et régnant ensuite jusqu'après Bellini) visait , par toutes sortes de moyens vocaux, à perturber et émouvoir l'âme grâce aux "affetti" du texte. Le "coup de glotte" existe dans tous les traités aussi bien au XVIIème qu'au XVIIIème siècle. Gencer en fait peut-être trop, mais elle n'est pas du tout "hors style".
ctenor06 2 years ago 8
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La vôtre n'est pas très précise.... Au niveau "technique vocale", vous êtes limité. Les coups de glotte servent ici à faciliter l'émission...Et s'ils sont liés au "bel canto" traditionnel, dans le cadre de l'expression, ils doivent être moins appuyés qu'ils ne le sont ici. Même s'ils sont dans les "traités" des XVII° et XVII°, je maintiens qu'ils sont hors de propos chez Bellini en 1831. Je n'en suis pas un inconditionnel, mais écoutez Callas, et vous entendrez la différence...
breton2 2 years ago
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The clearly audible break between head- and chest-voice is indeed TERRIBLE. Oh my God, ugly.
AfroPoli 2 years ago
She uses her chest voice only two times in this aria and there are no breaks between the chest and head voice. I think you mean those glottal attacks. They are used as ornamentation in bel canto style. She is trying to give the despair effect by conveying cry (glottal attacs). If you dont like bel canto it is agreeable but you cannot say that Gencer is terrible or ugly here.
sezgin86 2 years ago 37
@sezgin86 totally agree, actually she delivers such a despair and pain through her voice. Brava!
charmeueueur 4 months ago 3
@charmeueueur That is what she always tried to do. She prefered drama over vocal beauty and I'm glad she did so!
sezgin86 4 months ago
Quelle intensité, sa Norma est anthologique.
Une déesse du Chant.
RIP
operasfab 2 years ago 7
the queen of soprano
heroOFteDAY 2 years ago 6
she is great , what a emotional voice has she got ? love her so much
evosokolova5 2 years ago 5
So much ignored by the recordcompanies !
Hans NL
qklq42 2 years ago
Wow. I've never heard of her. So expressive and what an istrument.
metzwiler 2 years ago 7
Never heard of Gencerž?! OMG, there is SO MUCH of her you have to discover, that you better start right now! :) There are many clips on youtube and I can tell you more about her if you are interested, so you welcome to write to me.
MisterSoprano 2 years ago
Intense, troublant, magique
miralouj 2 years ago 4
Splendida! L'unica cosa che non mi convince del tutto è il ricorso a molti suoni gutturali. Però che talento!
ginlemon29 2 years ago
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Yes, and when Gencer says "I think I have it, too", she is a little bit immodest. After all, what she is doing here is quite good, but nothing exceptional. Are you following me?
MarcoCallas 2 years ago
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Some sounds are, frankly, simply horrid.
sevoflurane 2 years ago
maybe unconventional, but i find the majority of the other sounds so incredibly beautiful it's not hard to forgive and forget "some sounds"
SiEtIn1 2 years ago 5
Excuse me, is this 1965 Scala performance where she is partnered by Prevedi as Pollione and (I think) Cossotto as Adalgisa? I've read there is a CD recording of that live performance available for sale. By the way, I've heard the great duet In mia man from that performance here on youtube and both Gencer and Prevedi are AWESOME in the duet.
corellithebest 2 years ago
Miraculous.
WiseMonki 3 years ago 2
I saw Gencer in Lucrezia Borgia in Dallasin the 70s; and at a gala a the SF opera. She was a superb Lucrezia but had vocal problems in the latter. Regardless, she was a major singer of the 60s and 70s - one of the gods of opera. Relax, be less critical, and enjoy this great artist.
bobopera 3 years ago 5
Norma is such a interesting role, especially with Gencer. Gencer was the only who really did it like a bel canto singer, that's why it's completely different to Sutherland,Callas and Sills. So i think that Gencer does it best in one way because it's properly as it's supposed to be when she sings it. Sutherland and CAllas, no..not att all...strange carreers, neither of them could do a beautiful high note or the glorius thrills that Sills always could do even in the last..
hypnotizeed 3 years ago
You're entitled to your taste, but there's some lack of truth in what you say. Sutherland and Callas sang undoubtedly in proper Bel Canto syle. Besides, Sutherland and Callas had better trills than Sills, who had great ones but not as agile and stable. They also didn't have strange careers, at least not stranger than Sills' (who was a lyric leggero and sang dramatic roles) and Gencer's (who, by her own words, sang roles she wasn't ideal to).
Homoclassicus 3 years ago
j'adore ce final, et l'interpretation de Gencer est de loin la meilleure de toutes!!
royalcarlos83 3 years ago
Je suis tout fait d'accord
petitgardois 3 years ago
Gencer was not Callas and Callas was not Gencer, two very different singers and both did an aweful lot to revive the belcanto repertoire, Gencer even more so. Both emotionally charged singers whose intepretations will survive the test of time. Both using various techniques to drammatic effect. There are many of their contemporaries from the 50/60 and even 70ties who sound dated and old fashioned. These two one can keep listening to over and over again, fantastic!
robertdonkers 3 years ago 7
She makes Caballe seem circumspect in the use (abuse) of glottal attacks. Very good voice, but not a great musician like Callas.
troppofiato 3 years ago
I don't understand why people (including critics) say that Gencer is a bad singer. Listen to the sound of this video to realize that the truth is the opposite: she has good phrasing, easy high notes and a true emotion. She is not Callas but she is fine.
yglofmi 3 years ago 2
If you base this on most objective criteria, you are right, however, the critics objected to her repeasted glottal attacks.. there are many in this short aria. .. When people wonder why Maria Callas was considered to be so great, all they have to do is listen, really listen to her art during 50-60... and.. if they can get by an occasional wobbled or strident high note in 59 and 60, you will find, clean, highly musical, musically accurate, and emotive singing. uneven.
kgarmaker123 3 years ago
what '59 or '60 ? In 1959 Callas opera career was happily an horrible memory of the disastrous singer she had been in her very short opera career (1948//58)
bonanplu 3 years ago
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Whatever, the example was of No, NOn tremare.. Even callas in the 1960 example is better than Gencer..glottal attacks abound, missed high notes.. Incorrect rhythms, missed florid notes. Terrible singing. Say all you want about the wobble. She still sang better than these imposters.
kgarmaker123 3 years ago
Callas was a cold singer ,boring, always weeping voice.Callas high notes were DREADFUL since the begining of her very short career, dreadful unsteady, thin and small, Callas never could hit a beautiful firm high note
bonanplu 3 years ago
I wonder whether you have ever washed your ears!
Aetion 3 years ago
Callas cold?????????????
She was the most touching and human singer to walk this earth.
You must be the one who's cold not to feel her beautiful sensitivity...
freespiritQC 3 years ago 3
Callas sings everything with voce piangente, like weeping, she is always vulnerable but she had no great power, part because of her almost small voice and part because of her greekamerican personality that has nothing to do with italian opera
bonanplu 3 years ago
Of course, only italians can understand italian opera....
freespiritQC 3 years ago
Actually, all those who saw Callas live say she had a huge voice in her early prime and still a large voice later on. I think you are misguided by recordings or had a wrong perception about her. She did use a lot of "voce piangente", as you say it, but that's what many operas do need. However, anyone who has heard her recordings as Lady Macbeth, Abigaille or Norma knows she had all the possible variations of mood, colour or volume necessary to each moment in an opera.
Homoclassicus 3 years ago
homoclassicus: It's just the opossite. Callas voice in the theater was medium size in early '50s and since 1955 her voice was almost small.
She is a creature of the studio recordings mostly
bonanplu 3 years ago
Well, then you say it. Everybody's entitled to an opinion. But, as I can see, you are 61, so you was a child when Callas was in her prime. Did you see some of her performances live? That said, I must add I'm getting really annoyed because of all this "only Italians know opera" thing. Opera has been an international musical genre for more than 350 years, and even in the earlier 20th century the majority of great artists weren't from Italy, which is a great place for opera, but not the only one.
Homoclassicus 3 years ago
Essentially, her voice got much smaller over time, as is born out by "live" sets. Siepi experienced her singing when a young woman first making a sensation in Italy (late 40s/early'50s) and speaks of voluminous tones. Another musician at La Scala at the time of her Scala VESPRI debut speaks of low notes that were as massive as Elmo's. Bonynge at the time of her first NORMAs speaks of her power as comparable to Flagstad's. But then, Met habitues from '56 on speak of her middling vocal size.
grig035 2 years ago
This "alleged" argument cannot be going on decades after her death!Yawn.Apparently Rich.Tucker misheard her "giant voiced" Gioconda when they appeared together in Verona.Turandot shows her blasting Del Monaco into oblivion during their duet.Their AidainMexico Cityshows much the same.I guess Tullio Serafin could have learned a thing or two from YOU when casting her as Brunnhilde, Isolde, Turandot and Kundry.Naturally you channel yourself back and u carry a seismometer w/you.U r a pathetic cliche.
eastsunrise 2 years ago
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Ridiculous. From 1947-1952 her voice was HUGE. Witnesses, critics and colleagues who sang with her said this. And it's obvious for everyone with ears. Past 1953 she was a dramatic coloratura, with enough to sing Norma at the Met. Creature of the studio? BAH. Her live recordings are the gems of her legacy.
Now to Gencer: This is one of the BEST versions of this aria I have EVER heard. Thank you, Homoclassicus.
Elisabetta611 1 year ago 7
@Elisabetta611 That's true. Sutherland often referred in interviews to the amazing hugeness of early Callas' voice, saying it was a massive wall of sound. And I bet Sutherland knew one thing or two about vocal size, since she herself had one of the hugest voices ever heard in Opera Houses.
Homoclassicus 1 year ago
@bonanplu You are very wrong.. and YOu know how I know? Joan Sutherland is interviewed, many years after Maria Callas death.. and she said, her voice up through 1955 was HUGE.. And it takes one to know one.. as Joan had a big voice too.. So you Bonaplu.. just have an issue that Callas did more in a short time than anyone else.. Too bad and so sad. for you.
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
@Homoclassicus ,i saw Callas 10 time at La Scala (and Tebaldi,Caballè,Sutherland,Devia....) she sang with Del Monaco ,Corelli,Stignani,Simionato and the voice was great,with marvelous squillo.the conductors were in love.Gencer IMO was very very fine,no small voice.I remember in Florenz a great Lady with Muti and a concert with inchanting Lieder of Chopin.
saverioorlando 1 year ago
OH Y GOD!!! You have made what I consider the most IDIOTIC comment that I have read on any of these blogs! And I have read thousands!! I know people who sang with Callas and others who have heard her sing, and all confirm that her voice was huge!! You are a loser!!!
nichtsleezy 2 years ago 2
you are upset relax.Yes Callas voice was only medium size in early '50s, after 1954 her voice was little
maipisimo67 2 years ago
were you there to really confirm that?... were all of you there?... I guess not. Because what I´ve read says completely the opposite and it wasn´t just John Doe who said it. Anyway, who cares?
ezayi 2 years ago
Callas' voice was never "little", she was singing Fidelio in her teens for goodness sakes!! She moved to a different repertoire which she considered better for her voice because she never liked the straight dramatic roles she had to sing earlier. She dispissed Tosca for example, and she adored singing I Puritani.
primohomme 2 years ago
@bonanplu
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Einstein
Aetion 1 year ago
I completely agree with you! How can anyone say she is cold?! All her interpretations were deeply and genuinely HUMAN! And I see Gencer has the similar ability to express emotions with her singing, so I quite enjojy her Norma.
corellithebest 2 years ago 7
for me is the best norma after Callas....
poupounakis 3 years ago
Türkiye'nin, belkide dünyanın gelmiş geçmiş tek divası !
bathory00 3 years ago
number one
korelkal 3 years ago
bravo Bellini!
pasfresh123 3 years ago
TheRealAngelHeart i agree with you....
poupounakis 3 years ago
I think that she is the besy Norma after big CALLAS i love her voice, her dramatico voice.
poupounakis 3 years ago
I totally agree. My favorite norma is Callas in the 1955 live recoridng at la Scala with Del Monaco and simionato. This was a time when Callas was at a perfect balance between total mastery of her voice , and toal mastery of her emotions. A very, very close second is Leyla Gencer.
TheRealAngelHeart 3 years ago
Divina Leyla! A bella a noi ritorna, del fido amor primero. Ella canta almeno con angeli, eternamente bella!
semiramide1945 3 years ago 3
Merci, vraiment. C'est pourtant toujours difficile de traduire la complexité de ce qu'entendent nos oreilles...
mariasarda 3 years ago
Addio, Leyla ! Vous resterez au Panthéon des Vraies Voix, de celles qui n'ont pas fléchi devant le chantage médiatique et bourgeois ! Que votre Voix nous reste en témoignage de votre droiture et de votre charisme... autant de choses que les médias ne pourront jamais se payer à coups de publicité ! Brava, canti per l'eternità cogli angeli vicino ai Dei della beltà...
mariasarda 3 years ago 3
Bien dit.
jacquesurlus 3 years ago
Encore une fois tout à fait d´accord avec toi, Mariasarda...
birgitnilsson 3 years ago
this is what opera is all about..emotions...Brava Gencer.!!
erik760 3 years ago 2
Not only emotions, it's about putting vocal technique at the service of the music too. Many people here on YT seem impressed as long as someone sounds all worked up. Gencer IS very passionate, but how does she achieve this? not tearing her hair out, but by seeking vocal colour, intensity, there is wonderful control in the line here - and in a role that is actually too much for her, she takes a risk and wins, she does makes some gutsy sounds too but always FROM and not ON the music. Not verismo.
CzarDodon 3 years ago 7
Leyla Gencer è stata una grande soprano una delle piu celebre del secondo novecento.
Se i produttori discografici cominciassero a fare conoscere meglio le grandi soprano oltre alla grande Callas sarebbe meglio.
Questo per i giovani che piace l'opera.
pasielu 3 years ago 3
Which performance is this? Is it Scala 1965 with Simionato?
chrisjw24 3 years ago
Yes, it is.
Homoclassicus 3 years ago
Bravissima!!!
lucluc1000 3 years ago 2
Per me talmente modesta ... da preferirla a tante altre mezze calzette che sono state incensate, ma che scompaiono davanti a tanta Donna
suliotis5 3 years ago
E questa sarebbe una cantante modesta? Ahahahahahahahah. Non ti tremano i polsi all'intensità della sua interpretazione?
figaro92 3 years ago 2
@figaro92 ricordiamo il merito grandissimo che Leyla ha acquisito con la Donizetti renaissance!
saverioorlando 1 year ago
Cantante modesta? Grandissima interprete e grandissima cantante!
zenone17 3 years ago 9
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un culo como cantante, un brutto culo, Leyla Gencer never existed
moreno2394 3 years ago
Moreno2394 ha sospeso il suo account.. speriamo per sempre! cosi Leyla riposera in pace
CzarDodon 3 years ago
no interesa si la cuenta de Moreno2394 es suspendida o no, Leyla Gencer reposará en paz y siempre será una de las grandes, sin importar lo que Moreno2394 diga o deje de decir
SiEtIn1 3 years ago
Leyla Gencer fue una mujer muy frustrada porque siempre viviò a la sombra de las demas cantantes y es entendible porque fue una cantante malìsima
vergoti20 3 years ago
todo el mundo, inclusive tu, tiene el derecho de tener opinion propia, aun si esa opinion es estupida o irracional. ahora, yo te voy a decir algo morenito2394, mucha gente, algunos mas importantes y mas entendidos que tu; opina todo lo contrario de lo que dices
SiEtIn1 3 years ago
exacto hay opinones idiotas e ignorantes, la tuya por ejemplo.
Leyla Gencer intereso poco, tuvo una carrera barata de acuerdo a su escaso material vocal, algo muy racional
vergoti20 3 years ago
Come interprete a stato meravegliosa, ma come cantante un tanto modesta. R.I.P. Leyla
Pagudo 3 years ago