Barbara Dennerlein on (Virtual) Pipe Organ - Trinity Wall St. NYC

[TheMadMusicMan]

I do prefer the sound of a real air-blown organ but Barbara makes anything she puts her hands on sound superb. Go for it!

[l56787]

une grande organiste

[EccentricRichard]

I don't have any particular problem with jazz on a 'straight' organ. Not even in church. It can be made to work. This, though - it's cheesy in the extreme, and is more like porn movie music than something appropriate to church. Nope, this girl needs to be kept away from church organs unless she can play 'straight' too...

[organham]

Barbara is pulling a Dr. Lonnie Smith on this one, a different arrangement for her!!!!!

Beautiful!!!

[organy15]

This is my favorite part of the concert at Trinity Wall St.. NYC

[willowthebored]

I miss the Skinner.

[cedsplace]

Wow! Not too many people have ever been able to get away with jazz on a church organ but we have here a contender for one of the greats if you ask me. The early part of this composition seems to capture some of the essence of NY and I'm sure that Bach would smile on her improvisations on his work.

[gnolt]

Saw her play in Akron Ohio on a world famous schantz pipe organ.She was fantastic!

[itachisharkak]

Was that supposed to be Toccata in D minor. That ruined a great piece by Bach, But Bach liked improvisation, and she is very skilled

[hans1970]

That was "New York Impressions" with a little "tip of the hat" to J.S. Bach.

[itachisharkak]

Oops, I feel terrible, please forgive me

[spocksss]

Ruined? Bach was the master of improvisation...

[technocrash09]

@spocksss I agree! And so did the audience. If someone thinks this ruins anything the great improvisation-ist J.S. Bach knows very little about Bach's intentions. If not for artists like Dennerlein, we would be resigned to listening to only the first compositions of the masters over...and.over...and over until we were bored to tears. Improvise on, all you artists, and keep it new! I am quite sure if Johann was there, he would have given you a standing O!

[lorbo77]

I didn't speak about Barbara (she is wonderful) but about the organ. It is a digital organ which costs as a pipe organ, so i expect it sounds as a pipe organ also..

[lorbo77]

the sound is so fake and electronic

[gingervytis]

Ya, you should show her how it ought to be done on a real air-blown organ.  I'm sure she'd really appreciate your input and it would be a major step forward in her musical maturation.

[helloitsmelol097]

@gingervytis some people think that digital organ are good replacements but I think it's okay if it is the only thing possible. I think digital organs can get close to the power of a real organ.

[gingervytis]

@helloitsmelol097 I was being sarcastic in reply to lorbo77, who doesn't like the sound.

[helloitsmelol097]

@gingervytis I didn't say I didn't like the sound but i just prefer real pipes.

[mijatovicn]

@gingervytis LMAO. If you ever run for president, I'll vote for you.

[KC9SYJ]

@lorbo77 That was a digital electronic organ? Are you kidding me? It sure sounded like pipe organ to me! Anyway,Barbara is good on it as well as on the B3!

[FreakofFunk]

klingt super. DIe hats einfach drauf! Aber auf der B3 finde ich sie noch besser. Ich kann das Album "Jankanoo" empfehlen, da sind u.a. Dennis Chambers und Randy Brecker mit dabei!

[Heyde1979]

wow she is good

[ebufford]

I can do this!...just give me a week to get use to every sound I would need then it would be on!

I love pipe organ music because it's so different!

[Alu10000]

WTF?!?!? Awesome!!

[Broaart]

Very impressive!!

[boxingglovelove]

I saw Barbara at Trinity Wall Street this past summer. What an artist! She has phenomenal technique (great glissandos! and look at those blazing hands and feet), has devised and composed imaginative jazz arrangements for organ, uses amazing registrations, and is very sexy looking in performance. If you have to have a digital organ as Trinity does, Barbara is the one to realize its full potential.

[kempedkemp]

Great artist. Too bad this poor high Episcopal Church couldn't afford a real pipe organ. Such a shame they couldn't fix the grand old pipe organ after the 911 disaster.

[latribe]

Yes - digital stops are cheap!

[latribe]

Yes - I can appreciate that - but once the hardware is there, digital stops can be added and added and added and added. Cheap on space and cheap on hardware - certainly if you look at the effort, materials and overall cost of pipes.

However, in their versatility, digital instruments can show off the organ generically as an instrument so that people start to appreciate real pipe instruments more.

Of course its easy to plug in a load more digital stops in the midi output at the back: cheap!

[latribe]

Oh yes! I know . . . and appreciate what's involved. But cheap compared with adding a unit of 150 stops in pipes . . . The pipe organ is actually so much more valuable and can't be taken for granted. Oh yes - let's plug in a Cinema organ for the night . . . well and good and inspirational for introducing people to the instrument, but an insult to Wurlitzers. This instrument is WONDERFUL, but should be thought of as the route to the pipe organ, not to be revered as such in itself. Long live pipes

[riverscuomo06]

haha, yeh definitely cheaper than real pipes :-). i wouldn't really call it an insult to wurlitzers...check out Opus 4 at middle collegiate church...it pretty much is a wurlitzer...as well as an aeolian skinner and other random ones ;-)

[EccentricRichard]

@latribe - Aha! Trust me to find you here... and yes, we'll be at Hammerwood on Saturday. We might join you up at the church later - apart from anything, Dad's a bellringer too, so if you want/need another pair of hands...

[EccentricRichard]

@riverscuomo06 - so, basically, they spent a hell of a lot of time and money developing what is, admittedly, the finest example in the world of an electronic organ that I know of, but still second-best to a good pipe organ, when they could just have built a new pipe organ, reusing the best of the old one's pipework... idiots.

[riverscuomo06]

@EccentricRichard They couldn't of "just built a new pipe organ" because 1, they needed one ASAP, not two years from then. It is also way cheaper to have the M&O there than any pipe organ.

[EccentricRichard]

@riverscuomo06 - yes they could. This thing took a lot of development, a lot of construction, and ended up costing no less than an equivalent pipe organ. I seem to recall $2m being the figure I read. Now, they already had that old Skinner, which could at least have supplied them with a large amount of secondhand pipework. Also, redundant organs of all sizes, from small to very large, are commonly available - don't tell me they couldn't have got a more than adequate pipe organ.

[riverscuomo06]

@EccentricRichard ok, even if you could get an organ that fulfilled everything they wanted it to do (technically two organs with front and back) it would've taken way too long to get that made and installed. the skinner was completely wrecked not just from dust, but from the corrosion due to the jet fuel that was sucked into it. not a lot that could be salvaged without serious restoration work.

[riverscuomo06]

@EccentricRichard and even if they did spend $2million on the digital, that's still cheaper than buying a new organ (or restoring the old one, which they didn't like) and the maintenance costs are way lower for the digital. one problem i have with all of this is a very common problem everywhere--people make way too big a deal about the organ and not enough about the music. all digital organs can be way more musical than pipe, no matter how good or bad the organ itself sounds.

[EccentricRichard]

@riverscuomo06 - OK, jet fuel ain't funny. AVTUR is a pretty damaging thing unless properly contained. However, $2m not getting them a good organ? Back in 1994, Saint Ignatius Loyola got a STUNNING Mander (built here in the UK) for inside $1m. Don't tell me TWS couldn't have got a good organ for 2. Yes, digital maintenance costs are lower - but digitals last nothing like as long. I've encountered many a tracker organ that's gone over 100 years without overhaul and is still perfectly reliable...

[EccentricRichard]

@riverscuomo06 - and "all digital organs can be way more musical than pipe". I'm not knocking Marshall & Ogletree's efforts - this instrument first made a major impression on me when I heard a stream of Nathan Laube playingMessiaen's Dieu Parmi Nous on it - but nothing can beat a great pipe organ for sheer musicality. There is no substitute for shifting hundreds of cubic feet of air - and the means of blowing is SO important too. Listen to St Maximin, or Roskilde Cathedral, to hear what I mean.

[riverscuomo06]

@EccentricRichard all i'm saying there is that the organ is the only instrument where people obsess way more over the instrument than the music that comes out of it.

[eastcoastbands]

god the more i see of this woman the more im just.....

[wurli815]

Watch her videos of her playing jazz on her B3. Barbara is awrsome.

[Orgelduedler]

Is that a pipe organ with digital and pipe stops or a full digital organ?

[MoneyManTC]

Digital

[jollycopter]

That's some good use for pipe organ. Thanks a lot.

[MoneyManTC]

I watched it live. She did an excellent job!