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  • Not surprising. I've seen similar claims when I was a Christian and I have also talked to Muslims that try to use the same arguments as well. Overall it seems way more apparent in Islam than it is in Christianity.

  • Lol

  • @paleflarelight

    LOL and in the middle of your child's acceptance speech, you run up on stage and go "i'ma let you finish, but because i created you, i'm one of the smartest people of all time!"

  • are power failures just god's way of signifying his displeasure?

  • @paleflarelight technically god deserves credit for creating adam and eve. Lol. The funny thing about that story is that god created adam out of nothing yet he needed adams rib to make eve. Dont you hate it when you buy something that has pieces missing. :) by the way the world is going it seems he lost the instructions too. And the company went out of business years ago. Oh well. Lol

  • According to the caller, god provided us all our knowledge because god gave us brains to figure things out. According to this logic, if I have a child who goes on to become a Nobel prize winner, I deserve all the credit.

  • All disobedience to God is sin.

  • i don't understand why God would convey scientific knowledge in the Bible.. it's extraneous. it's only necessary the further you get from God, so if His intentions were to keep man close to Him it seems counter-productive. Remember that, according to the Bible, man lived hundreds of years before he fell so far away from God. He made man to see him grow. Do you do all your child's homework?

  • You don't need to have a deep understanding of microbiology to know about the importance of handwashing.

  • Dude, that was scary, I was listening to some music before watching this clip, but before I could pause it, Matt started dancing, and it kind of looked like he was waiting for me to turn off the music so I could watch this instead.

  • @guineapiggyman if u see in muslim world we dont have gays and we dont have place for them, why becouse becouse islam teaches us what to eat and not if we follow gods commendment then there will be no problem with us like wht we have eg. aids gay and one more problem you have out of 2 new kids one belong to multiple fathers, if its continue then you know what will be the future...........but in islam its not there...in islamic law if sombody did this then DEATH penalty,

  • @MegaRafique you do have gays in the islamic world, that's why you have gay men and lesbians having a mutual agreement to get married so their families don't find out. It's not that you don't have gays, it's just that islamic society is so repulsively prejudiced and repressive that homosexuals are too scared to come out.

  • @Pirate44444 ur wrong! u peoples has law for them and we dont becouse u have these types of peoples thats why law

  • @MegaRafique no, because homosexuality is not a choice. There are homosexuals in the islamic community, but they are too scared to come out.

  • @Pirate44444 ohhhhhhh my God, u know all this thing WOW! u sant man great great shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dhumb

  • @MegaRafique wow that is a really sophisticated and compelling argument.

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  • Gosh gave us electricity?! WhT an epic fucking copout!!!!!!!!! Christianity fails at explanations yet again!!!!!!

  • Wow. That caller fails at life.

  • I'm a Christian this really makes you think good work

  • The Bible confirms science in the Aimed At America 1 video because there are too many parallels for this prophecy to be wrong!

  • @Frankyre1972 You say history does not lie, but you only apply it to your own beliefs? What about the history that is against God? Evolution, Dinosaurs, lack of global flood, ect ect. God does not give you hope, God is a safety blanket for the ignorant. Your belief in God gives you hope in a placebo effect. You believe he will save you when you die, thus hope is given. What about before you were born? Billions of years where you were nothing. Why would death be any different?

  • I dont advocate religion. I stand as one that was transformed from misery into joy, and from hatred into love when I asked Jesus to take my life and do with it as he pleased.

    Religion is mans abilities. I want to see Gods ability not my ability. Im done with my ability, Im grossed out with myself/ego and now enjoy the privelege of seeing God work in me and thru me forever. Hooyah!

  • @j919or Your story sounds exactly the same as those told by jehovah's witnesses, muslims, mormons or any other religious people on earth. Also, I should think you can let go of your ego without a belief in a god. So you believe that Jesus performed a primitive human sacrificial ritual in order to save us from his own hatred for "sin"? This makes no sense at all. Why would you want a god that ordered Abraham to kill his son, to rule your life?  A god that condones slavery and rape.

  • @ultim4t32 ""story sounds exactly the same as those told by ..'''

    Are you a non thinker/lemming slave of the atheist cult.Of course it "sounds" the same.You are an undiscerning non critical thinker and they are all distortions of the same account of the historical Jesus.Jesus was God absorbing our sin and illustrating it on the cross. It makes no sense to u bc you are dead in sin/evil and blind to what matters.Prove that God condones slavery and rape and Ill prove that uve been deceived

  • @j919or You are a typical christian believer, attacking when their logic breaks down. You were using your experience and how god changed your life as proof. Other religions have the same experience as you. How does that prove anything? Religion is based on brainwashing principles. Getting a person to believe ridiculous things, refuse to question for fear of hell, fear of thought crime etc.

  • @ultim4t32 ""Other religions have the same experience as you.""

    More proof that you are a non thinker. No other religion has the experience of a life changed by the power of God. All other religion is based on human effort. For the truth to reach all it must be personally experiencable for the primitive tribes havent the ability to research the facts and history.

    I attack you for u are a waste of time and to prompt u to think. You may think for a living by in this forum you are mindless.

  • @peleasful Nice. Are you being like Jesus? NO other religion has the experience of a life changed by the power of god? OK. Keep holding onto bronze age belief systems, that is really using your mind. Spilling blood heals sins...

  • @j919or Callin me a "non-critical thinker" is funny considering what I do for a living. As for Jesus "absorbing" our sin, how exactly does that work? Isn't that a primitive human sacrificial ritual? Is that a legitimate means of "forgiving" sins? I really don't care to prove anything to you about god's views on slavery or rape. Believe what you want, I will never change your mind and don't even care to.

  • @ultim4t32 ""I really don't care to prove anything to you about god's views on slavery or rape""

    typical atheist moron. spouts it but cant support it.

  • @ultim4t32 ""how exactly does that work?""

    Jesus only absorbs and overcomes the evil of those that are done with self glory and self will. That excludes you. You are the spawn of satan and that is what you will remain for eternity.

  • @ultim4t32 ""Is that a legitimate means of "forgiving" sins?""

    The evil incurs a debt. Evil does damage. Forgiving sins and forgiving a debt are simlair. God absorbs the debt and asborbs the evil and defeats it in Himself. He overcomes evil and turns it around for the eternal good ...of those that believe.

  • @peleasful Actually he doesnt, he judges you on the deeds of your life, jesus redeems your original sin leaving you free will to be judged by god on your deeds not on anothers deeds an thats it.Your confused about your own religon.Please read a bible from cover to cover it will take about 2 hours a day x 14 days to see the truth.

  • @Thelondonbadger the truth? you mean the book thats been proven wrong again and again?

  • @guineapiggyman The context in which i said truth was educating that person on the facts of the actual scripture written down,not teh made up interepretations which are mixed with words like love and justice by preachers to worka crowd :L.

  • @Thelondonbadger ok...? but if the bible is truly the word of god (thru inspiration) then why did an infallible beings words need to be edited so many different times? not to mention, there are ALOT of stories from the bible that have been proven wrong over the last 100 yrs. so it cant be the true book of god. he would know what was fact and not

  • @guineapiggyman I dont dispute that the bible is full of inaccuracys and stolen content from earlier religons/legends, im atheist.I was pointing out the truth as opposed to what he/his preacher made up about what the content claims, about the old and new testament and what jesus fulfilled in this book of fiction.I doubt he'd ever read his bible otherwise he would know about the sacrifical laws and jesus's role ect.

  • @Thelondonbadger oh! in that case, preach on! ;)

  • It's amazing how god reveals science in the bible after it's already been discovered.

  • 0:13-0:18 Matt is Danding with the Devil lol

  • Ah, the poor believers: they're cute when they try so hard.

  • @hznfrst Wake up .... brother you are sleeping......I get nothing if you believe or you don't believe......its all up to you ......its your choice.... this world is an illusion created by our minds....remember the holographic universe.... you live in a reality that you design ... without your knowledge.... can you explain esp, near death experience psychokinesis, mind body healing....If so ..I will join you .... this is a matrix created by our God, our father... Wake up to the truth .....

  • @abydcon Pretty words, signifying nothing but your confused stupidity. Get lost, loser.

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  • @hznfrst u remind me off the brutal romans, 2 thousand years ago,watching believers in god/jesus , die in the arena to the lions and the fire stakes etc ,they died because they had seen the christ and his works ,and believed in him so much ,they sacrificed there life for the  son of man ,godly people do not fight wars ,only fight for the truth ,and what is right ,which is a tough path to follow ,the easy path u are on, broad and short leads to destruction ,get off that path to find god

  • @Frankyre1972 How do you get from sarcasm to murder?? You're so offended that anyone would dare criticise your BATSHIT CRAZY beliefs that you assume we would *kill* you if we could?? That's something believers do time and time again, all through history and into the present day! Atheists have far better morals than any religion that ever was: YOU are the ones who are insulting and arrogant, and you can GET FUCKED!!

  • @hznfrst history does not lie, and god gives us hope from this evil world we live in nowadays,the way u talk swearing etc , shows u up for what u believe in ,and thats nothing ,and thats all u will recieve good luck

  • @Frankyre1972 You insult atheists up one side and down the other - what do you expect in return, ASSHOLE?!

  • @hznfrst im here to give u hope ,in a hopeless world right now

  • @Frankyre1972 Go to the proverbial hell, you condescending prick.

  • @Frankyre1972 - So that means that the 19 hijackeres on 9/11 who sacrificed themselfs because they had seen god and his works. Clearly anyone who sacrificed there life over the last 2000 years were doing so for the son of man. Your way out of line my friend.

  • Hello being atheist is very easy ....simply shut the eyes and say I don't see or believe anything.....and science is looking everything in a narrow way....let's see 2 ants looking at a running vehicle a car ...1st ant says the tyre is running in circular motion tats why vehicle is running ....everyone approves ...he wins award ....after a decade another ant says there is a engine tat runs on it's own rats why vehicle is moving .....he wins award ....a decade passes ....another any sad well ther

  • @abydcon Okay your ant analogy is correct, thats how science works, why do you think its not good? When we find new evidence science replaces the old one and accepts the more plausible explanation. On the other hand religion is stubborn, we clearly know there are lot of flaws in the bible, but can you change it? NO. earth rest on pillars (1 Sam. 2:8), earth has four corners (Isa. 11:12, Rev. 7:1), bat is a bird (Lev. 11:19, Deut. 14:11, 18) and lot of false info & it has not been corrected.

  • @DoubterApe The Bible described the shape of the earth centuries before people thought that the earth was spherical. Isaiah 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. The Bible describes the suspension of the Earth in space. Job 26:7 He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing.
  • @abydcon Yes, but the earth is not a circle, and the sky is not flat...

  • @PirateMonkeyFilmz 1 Chronicles 16:3030 Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved.

  • @MegaRafique But it does move, sorry.

  • @PirateMonkeyFilmz 1 Chronicles 16:30Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved. ............bible says earth doesnt move...........so decied urself is it god word??????? this is just one errore out of 100

  • @MegaRafique I don't care what the Bible says. The earth moves.

  • @PirateMonkeyFilmz Jesus said no idole worship but their follower do against by putting his idole into cross and started worshipping

    Mark 16:17 and 18 17 (falsification test)And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

  • @MegaRafique I've never seen a Christian survive poisoning. Why don't you jump into a snake pit if you're so confident of your scriptures? And no matter what... the earth moves.

  • @PirateMonkeyFilmz it matter how you peoples attribute wrong thing to the god? one more nuclear weapon on the bible.....Numbers 31:17 18Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

    Matthew 5:32

    32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery

  • @MegaRafique r u serious? the bible says alot. and alot of its claims have been proven wrong. and you still believe it wholeheartedly?

  • @guineapiggyman accourding to me bible is the book which we should keep into the loocker for that you need to read genisis 38 from to end it talk about father inlaw fucked to his doughter inlaw and she given a birth to chiled and they are grand father of jesus................this book deserve to banned on the planet

  • @MegaRafique your english and spelling arent good enough for me to know what you were trying to say

  • @guineapiggyman this is not the subject!......now read genesis 30 it talk about two doughters getting fucked with father and both got kids too...........is this god word

  • @MegaRafique nope. i never changed the subject. just couldnt understand you. lol. thats a personal problem on your end. and who said i agree with the bible?

  • @guineapiggyman, good u dont agree with the bible..! normally i use to suggest all of my freidn who is chiristians to keep away that bible from kids other wise if they read then they start having sex with sis mother any one....whcih is happeing in chiristian word as per lastest study 1 kids belong to multi ple father out of 2 at britain nd america....just thing if this kid become a president what he will do

  • @MegaRafique well, your reasoning isnt true. there has been no increase in teen sex, or anything like that. its just now people arent as ashamed of it as they were throughout history, so theyll admit it easier. do you really think reading the bible will cause that type of stuff? if you do, then thats sad. did you know that even back in the 50's 43% of kids came from broken homes? or one parent, or even gay parents? i bet you didnt, but i know youve heard that its 50% now, so?

  • @guineapiggyman if history tell us all this bulshit thing like incest then new generation also start doing like that when judah did who was prophet then its also permitted for comman man like us...for ur kind information living an relation is there in amercia and all other chiristian country what does it mean? we call it prostituation.....gay parent one parent its not at all good things if eat lawfull foods then you will not have all this gay etc...bible has to rate ADULTRY BOOK

  • @MegaRafique are you serious? if we change what we eat there wouldnt be gay people?! wow. you know that even in the times of the bible, there were alot of gay people. whats wrong with gay people? and you really cant say 'they cant reproduce', because they actually can nowadays. is there something wrong with how they raise their kids? hmmm, lets see: they raise their kids to be loving, kind and UNDERSTANDING OF OTHERS. all you preach is hate. is that what jesus would have wanted?

  • @MegaRafique no book, whether it be the bible or whatever has the power to cause a downfall of society. you put too much power in the hands of inannimate objects. lol

  • @PirateMonkeyFilmz i had some one point out to me that a sphere is merely a 3 dimensional extension of a circle. I suppose they thought that it makes sense.I pointed out that even back then they understood the concept of spheres, so why wouldnt God simply say sphere....but the sheer ridiculous extensions they are willing to go through to ensure "science is biblical"...is astounding.

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  • Why didn't God give the ancients more knowledge is very simple they weren't ready for it. We were ready for the atom bomb to end the evil Japanese war lords.

    If any one thinks the war2 Japanese war lords were not evil does not know history very much. We went from rocks to bronze to iron to steel.. Knowledge increased incrememts. By the way for the ignorant, the ancients had soap. Now i ask what did they use soap for to wash each others mouth out?

  • Has anyone ever found or seen an elephant graveyard?

  • How do we know mammals did not exist in the Cambrian period were you there?

  • @oldlite One word; fossils. You should look it up.

  • @theoldbat40 Mammals would not leave fossils.

  • @theoldbat40 They may leave skeletons but this is a big world one day maybe a so called fossil will be found and besides all that carbon14 dating is unreliable. Even bones turn to dust in time.

  • @oldlite I said you should look up the word. The fossils found shows a "simpler" form of life. If we know the ansestors of mammuts we can trace the steps back to a time before they existed. I know this is a simple answer, but your question begs it. I could ask you the same thing; how do you know Adam and Eve existed, where you there? The fact that you can ask a question, doesn't mean you should.

  • @theoldbat40 Well Adam and Eve existed ; sadly so did John and Don.

  • People washed their hands especially the Jews more often than people do today. I imagine the midwives did too. Why does every little thing has to mentioned in the bible. You are saying the midwives were stupid. You asked a stupid question.

  • I pray for my fellow Christians that they will be given that open door to the klingdom they can visit but only in the spirit since flesh and blood can not enter in.

  • These two guys on this video are pretty hard headed no doubt. It just was not in God's timeline to reveal all this knowledge. The people back then were brutal if God had given them the formula for the atom bomb we would not be here today. You guys are crazy.. The atom bomb was created to keep our soldiers from being slaughtered invading Japan. God reveals things in due time. Don't you think its time you two fellows start thinking instead rapping nonsense.

  • Yeah right God should have given them the microscope and the formula for penicillin.

  • I tried to read the bible but after reading genesis I burst out laughing at the absurd nature and utter bullshit contained within it. I could'nt continue with it after that.....

  • Any God is faith that there is something more than what we know, and it can become a crutch within any fear based world'

  • There is a great problem in the Bible and none of you atheists know what it is hahaha

  • @MrTmapp

    Yes, there are a great many problems and contradictions and untruths found within the bible. Which one of the thousands are you referring to?

  • @steviej321 lol, nothing you think is an untruth is an untruth that's for sure. still not telling though. Have a guess :)

  • the bible states using a moving stream of water to clean themselves. Now that is scientific.

  • @oldlite

    This was something the ancient greeks and babylonians even understood. Why do you think in ancient times, people took baths in the lake? God didn't reveal this knowledge to man. It was already understood.

  • @steviej321 Don't be stupid the ancient Greeks or ancient any body knew about germs. Only atheists like yourself would think the way you do with an empty skull where the brain resides. By the way they took baths in tubs also and another thing a lake does not move water that is why we have so many stinky stagnant lakes. Quit being such a Dodo bird .

  • How did the ancient Jews know the best time to circumcise a baby is at 8 years of age.. That is the age when a baby is loaded with vitamin K. Now I know some of you atheist will reply that the ancients knew about vitamins, or worse yet which I once heard from an atheist is that they kept curcumcising at different ages and killing off their babies until they discovered the 8th day was optimal. You atheists are fun to chat with I must admit.

  • @oldlite make that 8 days not 8 years.

  • ...that's not really the accepted understanding of Zeno's argument.

    And I'm fairly sure zero was Indian before Arabic. I'm almost positive it's not Babylonian, because then it would have been transmitted to the West through the Macedonians, wouldn't it?

    And isn't hand-washing a mitzvah? Just that they made a big deal about Jesus' followers disobeying it...

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  • Science in the Bible? Do we really know how many libraries were burned by the religious? There were many scientific discoveries that got crushed. If some bit of science ended up in the bible I wouldn't be amazed at all. You could do a card trick in ancient times and it would be considered a miracle.

  • @baxtar1963 The ancient people were ignorant no argument there, but the bible says knowledge would increase it also says his people were dying for lack of knowledge. So God gave us knowledge a little bit at a time so as not to dazzle the ignorant. they thought Paul and Barnabus were gods because of a healing of a lame man. How ignorant was that. God only dazzled the ignorant and foolish a few times in the OT. Jesus dazzeled the crowd and some still did not believe..

  • This is a silly question but... What did Jesus write down? 

  • @alieninventions

    nothing! :D

  • When has the Atheist Experience ever lost?

  • Since humans stepped out of the caves, we were constantly expanding our circle of love to include more people. We now reject genocide, racism, incest, etc; things that were common centuries ago. We are in a crucial point in our development. Becoming completely spiritual by rejecting all evil is the next step. Atheism rejects Jesus, which represents 100% love, as a role model,which is a step back for consciousness. The time has come to raise our consciousness to the next level, is now or never.

  • why does every chrisitan who calls in sound like a fantastic moron...wonder what the correlation is lolz

  • I really want to know what it's like to be so confused...I mean the tortured ridiculous logic you have to conjure up to try and convince yourself of something you want to believe...must be really weird in the head

  • 0:15 Matt: THIS SONG IS AWESOME

    0:18 Martin: I like this... wtf is Matt doing?

    0:20 Martin: WTF is Matt doing?

    0:22 Martin: WTF is Matt doing?

    0:24 Martin: His moves are blowing my mind - Hey Look, a cow!

    0:26 Matt: Martin never gets it... weirdo

    My favorite episode starter ever... next to the "The Enemy God Dances With The Black Spirits" intro song

  • ironic how when people are dying they usualy turn to religion on their death bed (like darwin) but you never hear of a religious person denouncing their religious beliefs on there death beds

  • @LatinPrayers lol, I know you're already prone to believing silly things, but Darwin did not recant. Sorry, there's no evidence for that being anything but a hoax.

  • @LatinPrayers Twat

  • @LatinPrayers That is actually more typical of theists not Atheists. Regarding Darwin, It was a lie. Shortly after Darwin's death, Lady Hope told a gathering that she had visited Darwin on his deathbed & that he had expressed regret over evolution and had accepted Christ. However, Darwin's daughter Henrietta, who was with him during his last days, said Lady Hope never visited during any of Darwin's illnesses, & that he never recanted any of his scientific views.

  • @Strictlypointless He didn't have any scientific views whatsoever... All he had were false theoritical views.

  • @LatinPrayers You can't possibly be serious... I am sure you have factual evidence to support this inaccuracy? I can't imagine ANYONE *eye roll* spouting off a load of BS when they don't have any evidence to support their claims... OH wait! It is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about & you have never even once read anything based on Darwin. His voyage, studies, or research.

  • @Strictlypointless His research voyages were just a bunch of sharades. You can't call any of his so-called "finds" facts or evidence... He drew pictures of birds and turtles and said: yes, 47 million years ago, these creatures started to evolve from the same animal. Darwin was spouting of a load of "what do you call it" without any evidence to support his claims and you believe him... This is what happends when they teach theories and call them cold stone facts...

  • @LatinPrayers Sooooo no never mind that he had accumulated 5,436 plant and animal specimens that had been dried or preserved in alcohol. He had 368 pages of notes on plants and animals as well as 1,383 pages of geological observations. In addition, he had a 770 page diary that was the basis for his later popular book of his narrative on the voyage. OK yeah sure maybe he faked all of it and in fact lived inside of a what all that time like some other guy. Maybe that is more believable to you.

  • @Strictlypointless I never said that he didn't study plants and animals... I know that he studied them but that's not scientific proof of his "evolution thoery".

  • @LatinPrayers look up the definition of scientific theory, and you'll understand why they are taught as facts

  • @gisbrei They teach it as facts because they want it to be true. My religion (Catholicism) is true not because I believe in it but I believe in it because it's true.

  • @LatinPrayers let me guess. you'll never accept evolution, or any other thing that goes against creationism, no matter how much evidence you're shown.

  • @gisbrei same goes for your buddy lol

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  • @phxflyguy The Pope is not correct nor is he always right he is a only man after all  trying to bring peace between the atheists and believers, however someday your knees will tremble when they hit the ground in wonder and awe. Believe what you want , I believe the bible that says a fool does not believe in Him. What does that make you to millions of Christians. A fool.

  • @gisbrei the troube is you have no evidence for macro evolution. It is a fake pseudo science and the reasoin most kids leave school with a brain that has been brainwashed with the liberal view there is no God.

  • @oldlite Evolution says nothing on the existance of God. Evolution explains how life has changed and diversified over time. If your religious belief system treads into the scientific arena and promotes it's own creation myths, then be prepared to get push back from those of us who understand the scientific process. If you do not accept evolution, Please explain why there is not a single mammel in the Cambrian period. No dogs, cats, people, bunnies, mice, deer, horses; None. Please explain.

  • @coolgreyoneabby I love your comment. I wonder if @oldlite even realizes that puppies (baby dogs is what I'm saying) didn't exist until fairly recently. Bananas, anyone?

  • @phxflyguy No, he does not. The more I discuss science with the religiously fanatic, the more I'm convinced that religion can pollute the mind so deeply that understanding reality eventually becomes impossible for them.

  • @oldlite Speaking of brainwashed.... wow

  • @LatinPrayers Its true to you because you relieve in it, you NEED to believe it to make it "truth".

  • @LatinPrayers How can you be Catholic and not believe in evolution? Even Pope Benedict XVI believes in it. He's quoted as saying that the clash between creation and evolution is "absurd" because there is too much scientific proof in support of evolution. Look it up.

  • @phxflyguy evolution and Evolution are two different things. Evolution with a capitol "E" refers to Darwin's theory evolution with a lowercase "e" refers to evolution for what it really is.

  • @LatinPrayers Oh, brother. "A leading (Vatican) official declared yesterday that Darwin’s theory of evolution was compatible with Christian faith, and could even be traced to St Augustine and St Thomas Aquinas. Conceding that the Church had been hostile to Darwin because his theory appeared to conflict with the account of creation in Genesis, Archbishop Ravasi argued yesterday that biological evolution and the Christian view of Creation were complementary." - The Sunday Times 2/11/09

  • @phxflyguy Saying we came from apes does indeed conflict with Creation.

  • @phxflyguy Since the Vatican announced that that Christianity is compatible with Darwin's thoery of Evolution do you infact believe it is compatible and will you now at this point in time be converting to the Christian faith?

  • @LatinPrayers No, because the Church is just doing what it's always done. They know they're wrong and that there's no way to fight it so they adapt their mythologies to fit into the real world. They've done it time and time again. They don't teach that the world is flat anymore, do they? They are always at least two steps behind.

  • @phxflyguy The Church's teaching of salvation is what I'm interested in more than anything els. There are just a lot of other stuff that I'm not to fluent in namely philosophy because when I was a heretic Protostent I was taught to stay away and I have yet to read St Augustine's City of God which I will do when I'm finished with my current readings. If I become a friar then I would be studying at the Pontifical University of Saint Thomas Aquinas in Rome. Did you attend a university?

  • @LatinPrayers exxcuse me I hit the wrong reply button my comment has been removed.

  • @phxflyguy lol what?  you are dumb as a tree stump Darwin was not around way back then.

  • @oldlite "Darwin was not around way back then". Which comment of mine are you referring to? I don't remember mentioning Darwin at all. As far as you millions of Christians go, you all read the same book yet hardly any of you can agree with each other. That's why there are 10's of thousands of denominations. I can't even count how many times I've heard a Christian say that people outside of their denomination aren't "real" Christians. I'm sure the Methodists have it all figured out though, right?

  • @phxflyguy Only one kind of Christian he or she that follows after Christ and seek his kingdom and practice what Jesus taught. Sure go to a denomination t nothing wrong in having fellowship with others who believe. That does not mean they believe every thing the church says. Myself I do not go to church my fellowship is with the people on the street. I am not religious but I am a Christian because Jesus' words resonates in my heart.

  • @oldlite See, you're proving my point. That's your understanding of Christianity. Many Xtians do not believe what you just said. Some believe that you're saved by grace alone while others believe that you're saved by works. Many, many will tell you that you're going to Hell because to don't go to church. You know why they can't agree on what the Bible says? Because it's full of inconsistencies and it's impossible to believe every word. So they cherry-pick the parts they like and ignore the rest.

  • @phxflyguy I will show you my faith by my works. God needs no building to reside in. You first cleanse your own temple which is your body so the Holy Spirit can reside inside you. You must seek his his face but since you are atheist I don't know if that will happen. Perhaps you need something traumatic to happen in your life for you to seek Christ I don't know. I care, but there is nothing else to discuss with you. The liberal school system has made you the way you are.

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  • @phxflyguy yes we are saved by grace but too many rely on that concept to continue to sin.

  • @phxflyguy Jesus words are not inconsistent. He calls whom he will and the sheep hears the good shepard's voice. May your own ears open up to hear his voice. it's up to you.

  • @oldlite LOL! You people are so interesting to talk to. The way you throw logic out the window amuses me. Thanks! Read the Bible in it's entirety and you'll know what I'm saying.

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  • @oldlite Now, if you're one of the Christians that believe that God and Jesus are one and the same (which most Christians do) then you must understand that the words he was recorded as speaking in the New Testament were extremely inconsistent with what he taught in the Old Testament. Am I coorect?

  • @phxflyguy Yws, I know I spelled "correct" incorrectly. Sue me. People have sued and won on dumber sht than that.

  • Those who seek his kingdom shall find it and a door will be opened and they can go in and out according to their faith. But they must be careful of what they do and say in the Kingdom or there will be no more reprieves and the door will be shut to them. It will take much prayer and repentance for the door to open again. What the Lord gives he can also take away. Jesus calls us his little flock and few shall find that narrow path that leads to eternal life. I pray for my fellow Christians

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  • @LatinPrayers Of course, 50-100 years from now almost all Christians will claim that their church believed in evolution all along and they'll even point to the Bible saying that it's all in there and how it proves the Bible to be truth. They did the same thing when the earth was proven to be a sphere and when they realized that the Geocentric model was wrong and they'll do it again with evolution.

  • @phxflyguy That is different. There is actual proof of the round world. There is no proof that we hail from apes.

  • @LatinPrayers Evolution does NOT say we came from apes. It says that we have a common ancestor. Why don't you learn about it before you comment on it? It might make you sound less ignorant.

  • @phxflyguy The atheists do have a common ancestor, The pond frog.

  • @phxflyguy Humanity maynot know anyfuture ifwe donot slowdown any andall growth inpopulation while we use up any and all natural resources while at the ame time seeing that everyone has any opportunity within any and all sustenance occupation, poverty can and will only lend to more friction within any society, its simply difficult for anyone to look at the bigger picture within any and all physics of what we are doing to ourselves and this planet, because one simply does not know where is goes.

  • @DrFruedienslip Couldn't understand a word you just said. Try it again when you're sober.

  • @phxflyguy How could this statement not be so obvious? Does ot frighten you? What is any argument about God but about attempting to explain why anything exists? Look at the world around you, what these persons are speaking about relates to evolution and the origins to certain genres of intelligence, what is factual and what is any fiction. Persons actually think that any god reveals to them certain knowledge, is that what this venue is all about? read mark IV, its about the same thing.

  • @LatinPrayers You saying darwin is wrong?!

  • @BleedingSunday Yes Darwin was wrong, and your biology teacher is teaching you r garbage.