I can plainly see his ease with high notes. I can also plainly see that he is out of tune for the entire first section of this clip until 2:40, with several high notes (such as :22 and 3:46) totally out of tune.
Great high c's? Absolutely. But there are many notes in the scale, & I for one would love to hear him sing w/legato & good intonation. High c's aren't special, there are many instances of others singing them as well or better, but ALSO with evenness throughout the voice.
No me gusta el tipo de tenor que es, asi de agudo no me parece varonil. Sin embargo Juan Diego Flores canto preciosisimo y se luce muchisimo con la voz que Dios le dió y que ha trabajado. Tiene un gran regalo del cielo.
I am a big Franco Corelli fan , and I hope Puccini hears him singing wherever he may be since his death . But I do like Juans higher than usual tenor voice !!!!!
This Peruvian megastar is still the only leggiero tenor who can take on the Pavarotti mantle – without the excess baggage or white-handkerchief fuss – in terms of natural resonance, unforced musical expressivity and purity of tone, from unforced bottom and middle range up to top C (and above) brilliance
I love this soooooo much. 8 high Cs are hard to achieve and all I can do is applaud and Florez is terrific at this achievement. What a great tenor!!!!!! And he had the wonderful Natalie Dessay with him. I love this production!!!!!
Juan Diego Flórez in Madrid: Teatro Real de Madrid.2.6.2009 (JMI)
There is no doubt that Juan Diego Flórez is one of the very greatest singers nowadays: in his own repertoire, he is literally incomparable with any other singer. What I have discovered in the last two years however is that the Peruvian divo has become a singer who shines in a very special way in concerts and in recital.
Madcap Soprano, Brave Tenor Enliven Donizetti Opera in London, Bloomberg News, 12 January 2007
The brave tenor given the Olympic task of hurling out the famous top Cs is Juan Diego Florez, and when he does you know that you're in the presence of one of the greatest tenori di grazia (``graceful tenors'') of our time. He hits each of Tonio's treacherous notes with an unerring ping, and with no hint of strain. He doesn't slide up to them but attacks them staccato, just as the score demands.
The things that make Juan Diego Florez's rendition of this aria much better than others are so subtle that those who don't have a trained ear cannot hear the difference. One most listen to his octave jumps, you can't hear the difference between his registers. Everyone knows that he has to be using a ton of head voice for him to be able to hit the high C. However, his passagio is so strong that one can't tell the difference. There are many other subtleties that make Juan Diego Florez far superior
@amrascarpathia those octave leaps completely skip over the passagio, so I don't really understand what you're saying here. I do agree, however, that it is an excellent performance in every way, especially in the evenness of tone quality throughout his range. Nobody has performed the aria this well since Pavarotti.
@stripp2010 lol my point was pretty much that, that both octaves have the same quality. With most other performances that I have seen you can clearly hear the change of registers. However, Juan Diego has such a technique that it's not the case with him. lol Does that make sence or am I still confusing people.
You guys should listen to some of his interviews on here.. he talks about loving to be challenged by arias of this nature and how when he first began to take jobs that the companys wouldnt let him sing the full operas that are sometimes cut, until he proved himself.. and now companys beg him to sing exact scores.
Why do people go on about the impressive number of top Cs a given tenor has sung in this aria? I mean basically anyone who sings it sings a lot of top Cs because they are in the score, no?
@orlando098 I forget whether the original score has all those Cs, but a lot of tenors in that role sing lower notes instead. Also, they don't perform this opera that often because tenors with that specific range are rare.
OK, thanks. Do they transpose the whole aria down or if not what do they replace the top Cs with? I am trying to imagine how you could avoid them and can't imagine any lower note would sound very good. I suppose you could do an A if you then sang two FFs rather than A and F just afterwards. But I would think the audience would feel a bit short-changed. Re, the range, I don't think tenors with top Cs are rare, but ones who are comfortable jumping up to it continually are i guess
Do you mean they transpose the whole song down then? Because I was just trying on a keyboard and it would sound terrible if you just replaced the Cs with Bs and left the rest the same.
a) The top Cs are frequent and have to be blended easily into the aria, unlike many tenor arias that simply finish with a high note
b) Any note above A is very tiring for a tenor to sing, particularly frequently and loudly.
c) There is a whole opera with a few more top Cs either side of this one aria. Ergo, to tire yourself out quickly with one aria would be a massive mistake. Therefore, the song demands good technique.
thanks, I think that is a good assessment of why the aria is considered difficult. But I wasn't denying it is difficult, just saying it seems a little odd that people often wax lyrical about the great tenor so and so who sang nine high Cs in Ah mes amis! when if they are going to do the role of Tonio, it's basically expected
@orlando098 that is true, and you have every right to feel that way. However, just because something's expcted of a sionger when they take a role, doesn't mean we can't still marvel in awe of his technical ability. To be fair, this is the hardest single role Donizetti ever wrote. There are very few tenors who can do this. And, therefore, there are many ways to simplify, shorten, or transpose this aria. I suppose the fact is that Florez has rejected all of these changes, and stuck with the score
OK, thanks. I wasn't saying I didn't admire him here, by the way. I can sing a top C but not easily and think trying to sing this would be very tiring for me. I think he does it excellently. By the way do you know any versions on YT where alterations are made to make it easier, so I can compare?
I suppose it comes down to whether or not they rose to the challenge well and made it look relatively effortless (and genuinely have the right kind of voice for the role), as in Florez, Kraus , the young Pavarotti etc
Oh I absolutely agree! I agree that 34 is young, but unless you're in the opera world people don't see it that way. We're coming to a world where increasingly popular mediums such as football and basketball are making 34 years seem "OLD" but in our profession that's YOUNG!
I don´t know why some people here so criticize Florez and say he is succesful only because good marketing and that he can´t be well heard in theatre, live... people have ears, and if they applaud so much much when he sings live in theatre, so he should be good.and i like his recordings, i havent listened to his live singing. why else would they have wanted him to repeat the ah mes amis at the met? because they didnt hear him well for the first time:-))) ?
Zimmerman’s production of Vincenzo Bellini’s La Sonnambula, April 2009
“Juan Diego-Florez is splendid in the part of the tenor hero. Again, he makes a case that he is the best lyric tenor to appear since Pavarotti. Complimenting him is Dessay, who is affecting and lovely . “
.... “As her shy, knobbly-kneed boyfriend Tonio, Juan Diego Flórez returned to wow us with those famous top Cs and pure, unsullied vocal gymnastics. Only Pavarotti, in living memory, could make it all sound so similarly effortless...”
Le jeune Pavarotti était incomparable mais son français était à peine compréhensible. Seuls JDF et Kraus chantent vraiment en français, avec une pointe d'accent mais un naturel parfait, ce qui les distingue de tous les autres interprètes.
@linow666 ive heard, and there is nothing for him to learn. Sabbatini is a lyrical tenor, so they have very different voices, and though you may prefer the fuller lyrical tenor to Florez's airy leggiero, there is a substantial distance in the agility in the upper registry. Florez does beautifully resonant high C's, while Sabbatini struggles through several of them. What you like is the lyrical voice, which is something Florez will never have, which is just fine for those who love his leggiero.
@GNH1934 ,1- Sabbatini is lirico leggero or light lirico , and can sing (beautifully) part of the Flores repertoire -. I do not prefer vocal quality classification but nice technique. The eihgt C4 Sabbatini´s is perfect but not to easy as the peruvian, who is only good in high notes and make a song with little quality. He is more famous than good singer. Sabbatini is better than the famous singer and overcomes the Peruvian technique......
@linow666 you think he is pure marketing?..I have seen the best opera crowds in Europe (Scala, Zurich, Covent Garden), give an ovation non stop, on up to 15 minutes in Zurich) until the director accepted he do encores. Marketing...no, I've seen it live, he makes people feel in a different way. He is the first encore in the Scala in almost a century, which is basically a taboo..that isn't marketing. What we think is irrelevant, he achieved this singing, live.
@GNH1934 .He is an expressive musician that sings highs notes.We live in a world where there are few good tenors as before. Today, a tenor who sings the high notes can be a sucessful career. This all more marketing equals: "Diego Flores" is a "god"! Do not make me laugh. In Brazil where the Flores' marketings is not so power, is just a good singer, never a god. That's my opinion although many critics in Brazil love it too. Not me.
@linow666 I never called him a god, don't even know where you read this...read again and polish your english before going on 4 messages about something you read wrong. Yes, I am a fan and I dont need to be a critic, never needed to be one. And no, people aren't good because I like them...they are good because they are good, and that has to be the consensus of a majority. You can say what you want, but as said, when he does this LIVE, he brings operas to a full stop...and that isn't marketing.
@GNH1934 My english is really bad and I do not deny. I translated by google and fix it my way. But you could understand everything that I think of his idol Diego Flores. I'll do an English course just to be able to chat with you. Ok? Or let's talk in Portuguese and want to see if you can write well. Are you American? In general Americans only speak English.
Respond to this video...When this video was taken Florez is 34 years old, Guiseppe Sabbatini would've been 50 years old the performance can't be compared
@GNH1934 ,2- ....... I love Blake that is lirico leggero too and i do not like Flores why is not as good as they say. Pure Marketing. Any singer can learn to sing with other singers regardless of classification, or do you think Flores has nothing to learn with Pavarotti, Di Stefano, Caruso just because they are not lirico leggero?
@linow666 say what you want, but neither of had audiences bring operas to a full stop by audiences who have heard Pavarotti. Maybe he hasn't been a hit in Salvador du Bahia, but when he can bring Covent Garden to their feet, and have audiences demand an encore at the most difficult opera houses in the world, he must be doing something right. I have seen him live..and I have seen Pavarotti live...Florez is simply exquisite...he isnt powerful, he just makes you believe there is a god when singing.
@GNH1934.So you're a fan and not a critic. Never can be separating idol and singer. I'm not from Salvador-Bahia but you think that who lives there can not opine on opera. And who told you that in Bahia Flores is not famous? So you like Flores just because he is successful at Covent Garden? I thought you liked simply because you like him....part 1
@GNH1934 . Success is relative, not technical capability. Oprah Winfrey is a goddess in the U.S. for which she is famous there. Maradona is a god in Argentina but in Brazil, Pelé is the god. You like Flores because the marketing made you believe it. To say that peruvian is a god is isane . There are many other lirico leggero was much better than Flores. If Flores is a god, we are in Greece, and are many gods. It can be a Hades, but will never be Zeus. Believe me, marketing has its limits.
I saw him last season at SF Opera. I had pretty good seats. Alas I couldn't really hear him. I could hear the others e.g. Damrau - but Florez has such a tiny voice. I'm a Rossini buff so I had hoped for more. Not all Rossini or Donizetti tenors have tiny voices. Bruce Ford doesn't have a real big voice but much bigger than Florez'. Chris Merrit actually has a quite large voice as does Frank Lopardo (the last guy I heard in this role). Florez is no Bill Harness.
Stunning voice and so handsome too. BTW who was the delightful French redhead (a Pippi Longstocking of opera) who performed this role with him? She was a delight!
But when he walks out, he's marching incorrectly. haha If there's one thing I've learned in my years in musical theater, when you march, your arms should swing opposite your legs :) I'm guilty of it too though, so I'll let it slide :P
@Rachmoose That's because of the rol, Tonio was not supposed to be a militar, he entered just for Maria. He was an amateur. That's why he must show this particularly difficulty in marchin'
@eurydike I'm glad to hear you refer to him as a "young" tenor. In this recording he was 34; which means I have another 11 years old until I am a "young" tenor. Haha It's important for us REALLY young singers to remember just how "old" some of these singers are in these definitive performances such as this so we don't push ourselves too early!
Voice quality sound like a goat! I never heard Italian tenor sing like a girl. His high C isn't quite a high C. He is right on a key but that is not high C.
personas como juan diego, estan fuera de toda comparacion, es absurdo que comparen quien es mejor, eso dejemoslo para los seres comunes, las personas especiales como el son seres tocados con un don unico
Florez' singing voice has to be one of the prettiest male voices in the world of music (whether in the world of pop, classical or rock music). He really shows off his voice in this aria. How in the world does he toss off those high C's without making mistakes. I know he has many years of training and whatnot. Still, I am impressed by Florez' voice. I just hope that his singing voice will go into decline as he gets older. Bravo, Juan! Bravo! Keep up the good work.
@lunashot yeah, to me it sounds like fran drescher...man, i think his voice is so high pitched and annoying...he can sing there's no doubt but i dont think he has a beautiful voice...bocelli however i believe does, and is in the same type of voice...tenore ligero. i think however jonas kaufman has a hell of a voice.as
@abialex Bocelli has a beautiful voice but in terms of techniques, I believe Florez has better techniques. I don't think that Florez' voice is annoying. His voice is anything but annoying. You can't really compare Kaufmann to Florez since Kaufmann is a spinto tenor. I always thought Kaufmann would be great in a Wagner opera since Kaufmann's timbre is dark and powerful. Plus he's German. According to Wikipedia, he was in Lohengrin. I wonder if he was in other Wagner operas.
@lunashot i understand your point of view, but you do know that bocelli and florez both are in the same type of voice rite? they are both ligero tenore...the only reason as to why people dont like bocelli singing operas is simply because he sings pop...and he has a very beautiful voice in pop. now, i am a lyric tenore forte, so i'm between a spinto and a lyric tenore...and i also sing all kinds of crap, RNB, salsa, classical, opera, etc...so i understand why people dont like bocelli. but being
@lunashot able to sing lots of genres like i do make me a lesser lyric tenore? absolutely not, in fact, i only found out i was a tenore when i started taking classes from the miami lyric opera director...maestro cardone, who happens to be friends with domingo, carreras, and the late pavaroti...wy am i telling you this? well, simply because to my teacher i still am a lyric tenore...of course my voice is very powerful but not as dark as kaufman...i think he has a badass voice..but florez, i think
@abialex God bless you for your ability to sing different genres of music. I never said that the ability to sing a lot of genre makes someone a lesser lyric tenor. It just seems to be that if there was a sing-off between Bocelli and Flroez, in terms of techniques ONLY, Florez will most likely win. They both have beautiful voices but Florez does have more experience in terms of singing live opera so therefore it seems to me that Florez will likely have better techniques than Bocelli.
@abialex I'm sure that both Bocelli & Florez both learned the techniques of opera singes when they started learning to sing operas. But it's hard to maintain those techniques after you master them if you don't sing live operas because singing operas in recording studios as opposed to singing them live are not the same thing. That doesn't make Bocelli less of a singer but just a different singer. Although I'm no fan, I still think Bocelli's voice is better than 99% of the male singers in pop &
@abialex In addition to the fact that Florez sings UNAMPLIFIED at the Met whereas Bocelli sings in heavily amplified concerts and very few people heard his live voice, and that his attempts at live opera in provincial theaters got bad reviews, Florez has a great coloratura ability. You say Bocelli is a leggero, but I've never heard him demonstrate coloratura or sing this aria with its 9 high Cs. Have you heard Brownlee? Also leggero, but darker timbre than Florez, you might like him.
parece que esta alcanzando el nivel de kraus mi buen juan diego sigue asi, es verdad que aun le falta un poco pero es joven parece que lo puede lograr, al nivel de pavarotti? MMMMMMMMM diria que lastimosamente no llegara a tanto, siendo peruano lo digo .. y no necesito ser un conocedor de musica para darme cuenta que uno canta mejor que el otro -.- ''
@ZcOrPiOxD que nivel es ese? el ya esta en ese nivel, lo que pasa que ustedes ven a jovenes cantores menos simplemente porque no tienen el reconosimiento de muchos viejos. y te digo esto con la verdad de que a mi no me gusta su voz. pero no puedo negar que canta tremendo. lo mismo decian de pavaroti cuando era joven, mas cuando viejo lo ponen en una alta veneracion...que cambio? nada, solo su fama...lo mismo con todos los otros cantores quen cantan bello...ejemplo; jonas kaufman...
@abialex es cierto lo que dices pero muy aparte de la fama tambien esta el talento, juan diego es un tremendo tenor pero bueno escuchando otros como pavarotti, kraus, etc me doy cuenta de que tienen mejor "registro" o que llegan a las notas mas altas con mayor facilidad no se si esos seran los terminos por eso digo que no soy un experto conocedor de este tema solo es mi opinion .. =D
@ZcOrPiOxD no al contrario...se dice que florez canta alticimo con facilidad. pero esque yo pienso que su voz no es suave y fuerte a la vez. domingo tiene una tremenda voz y que encanta como se hoye el poder detras de ella en los tonos altos...claro, el es in tenor dramatico. yo no digo que florez no es excellente, por que lo es, pero es mi opinion como cantante que no me facina su voz. pero la verdad es que el ES un tenor excepcional...solo que a mi no me facina com jonas kaufman, bocelli,
Just back from seeing this at Covent Garden. What a breathtaking performance. Natalie Desay was also an absolute star with a lively display of perfect comic timing.
I just saw this production last week at the Royal Opera House!!!! It was INCREDIBLE. The C's were perfect. Dessay was great, too! I was so incredibly lucky enough to be let in the stage door, and got Florez and Dessay's autograph! It was incredible.
This production has returned to London with Natalie Dessay and Juan Diego Florez and I can confirm BOTH were WONDERFUL, TERRIFIC, MAGNIFICENT. Both suit their respective roles perfectly for this comic opera. Nothing beats seeing them sing this live.... LOVED it and them!
2x tickets to see juan diego florez at the Barbican hall this friday 7.30 pm 7th may 2010 these are super seats and face value £55.00 each please call me on 07801656034 unable to make concert
Que va viejo... suena bien... por lo menos va por buen camino, pero echale un camion de bolas porq lo que te falta es que jode!! jajajaja todavia recuerdo cuando lo escuche en vivo (la vaina se agoto por la propaganda) sali de ese concierto muerto de la arrechera porq casi no se escuchaba!! esto se nota que es grabacion!
his best performance on youtube by far. hits the high C's as well as every other note dead on. and with relative ease, that's the true sign of a well trained singer.
I think all Peruvians can be proud of this great tenor. I never have understood why some sneer at him, as if he were not a genuine Peruvian. Peru is a nation of many different groups. He would probably be classified as "criollo"...a Peruvian of mainly Spanish ancestry. So? One doesn't have to be Indian or part Indian to be Peruvian. He is as Peruvian as anyone else born in that nation.
You know there is no point in classifying because your external appearance does not always correlate with your racial makeup. I am Peruvian and my family is so mixed that you can't predict what the next generation will look like. There is Indigenous, African, and European, so who knows which features will dominate?
this is soo good
TheYoungTenor100 2 weeks ago
I can plainly see his ease with high notes. I can also plainly see that he is out of tune for the entire first section of this clip until 2:40, with several high notes (such as :22 and 3:46) totally out of tune.
Great high c's? Absolutely. But there are many notes in the scale, & I for one would love to hear him sing w/legato & good intonation. High c's aren't special, there are many instances of others singing them as well or better, but ALSO with evenness throughout the voice.
jaketaz 4 weeks ago
@jaketaz Agree!!!
LoreSka 3 weeks ago
@jaketaz fuck off debbie downer lol
sivadnadia 1 week ago
@sivadnadia
hahaha omg wtf rotfl bbq
jaketaz 6 days ago
este hombre es sublime...
laughingpantera 1 month ago
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laughingpantera 1 month ago
39 people don't have friends (ah MES AMIS!)
feoysabroso 1 month ago 2
@feoysabroso lol?
homerosalazar 1 month ago
bravissimo!
noelgallagherperu 1 month ago
te parece a hipolito cuando joven
Darksaga28 2 months ago
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hey video makers - never cut the applause! it's an essential part of the whole experience. :)
jd7x7jd 2 months ago
hey video makers - never cut the applause! it's an essential part of the whole experience. :)
jd7x7jd 2 months ago 2
Hasta la vista el 28 de Noviembre en la Opera de Budapest!!!!!!!
ducadibudapest 2 months ago
Donizetti, siempre!!!!
MrEstruendomudo 3 months ago
love these two arias :)
enzoferrarimendoza 3 months ago
No me gusta el tipo de tenor que es, asi de agudo no me parece varonil. Sin embargo Juan Diego Flores canto preciosisimo y se luce muchisimo con la voz que Dios le dió y que ha trabajado. Tiene un gran regalo del cielo.
Sochilinda 3 months ago
El chato acaba cansadazo !!
ShaneMeni 3 months ago
I am a big Franco Corelli fan , and I hope Puccini hears him singing wherever he may be since his death . But I do like Juans higher than usual tenor voice !!!!!
hazelssister 3 months ago
Existe un vídeo donde varios tenores (Juan Diego Florez, Pavarotti, Kraus...) cantan esta misma aria, pero no lo encuentro ¿Alguien lo conoce?
There is a video where several tenors (Juan Diego Florez, Pavarotti, Kraus ...) sing the same aria, but can not find Does anyone know?
jeveral 5 months ago
Awesome...I know it's not fair to compare him to Maestro Pavarotti but.. I still love Luciano's version better. This is my favorite Aria though...
RickJames1811 5 months ago
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Royal Festival Hall, London
January 23, 2011
This Peruvian megastar is still the only leggiero tenor who can take on the Pavarotti mantle – without the excess baggage or white-handkerchief fuss – in terms of natural resonance, unforced musical expressivity and purity of tone, from unforced bottom and middle range up to top C (and above) brilliance
cucuchi10 5 months ago
Fantastic control and clarity of his voice. Beautiful!
tprarockets 5 months ago
Bei keinem Anfänger war es einfacher zu sagen ,daß er ein ganz "Großer" wird.
(2006)
Heute ist er in seinem Segment der "Beste"
MsWombat66 5 months ago
I love this soooooo much. 8 high Cs are hard to achieve and all I can do is applaud and Florez is terrific at this achievement. What a great tenor!!!!!! And he had the wonderful Natalie Dessay with him. I love this production!!!!!
VeroniqueCG 5 months ago 5
I think people would take notice if there were a new 3 tenors including Florez, Kaufman, and Beczala!
ajayourba 5 months ago in playlist My Greeting Videos
I was there on the very last show, the only one where he accepted the BIS calls :-)
I can tell you, the audience was going WILD
Pitzick 6 months ago 2
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MsBalletomane 6 months ago
what a voice !
MrFrenchaccent 7 months ago
fantastic!!!!!
octron64 7 months ago
I think we should induct him to Three Tenors (well, it's Two Tenors, but you know what I mean.)
ObsessedJay 8 months ago
@ObsessedJay I say we start a new generation of the 3 tenors: Juan Diego Florez, Rolando Vilazon and Topi Lehtipuu :)
Erikrenate 6 months ago
Il est Péruvien ! félicitation .... j'avoue il à une belle voix ...
palmeramusic 8 months ago 5
HE'S NUMBER "JUAN" ;)))))
chazzdurden 9 months ago 49
@chazzdurden Lol!
Loganberrymusic 5 months ago
Un dia. Quando yo soy un hombre ansiano, voy a tener voce como el...
restlesspride666 9 months ago
beast
DanielDenino 9 months ago
Juan Diego interpreta perfecto y el coro tambien pero la produccion es malisima,
el coro parece de looney tunes, se mueven muy mal y la escenografia tambien es mala.
walo00916 9 months ago
This is the first time I'm listening to Juan Diego Florez - is it me, or is his voice exceptionally beautiful?
DevataIndrani 10 months ago 18
this aria has NINE top Cs in it, NINE!!!! absolutely excellent :)
SuperSeabass11 10 months ago 5
diego le plus grand the best now you forget r.blake....
tomclaudetom 10 months ago
Juan Diego Flórez in Madrid: Teatro Real de Madrid.2.6.2009 (JMI)
There is no doubt that Juan Diego Flórez is one of the very greatest singers nowadays: in his own repertoire, he is literally incomparable with any other singer. What I have discovered in the last two years however is that the Peruvian divo has become a singer who shines in a very special way in concerts and in recital.
cucuchi10 10 months ago 4
Madcap Soprano, Brave Tenor Enliven Donizetti Opera in London, Bloomberg News, 12 January 2007
The brave tenor given the Olympic task of hurling out the famous top Cs is Juan Diego Florez, and when he does you know that you're in the presence of one of the greatest tenori di grazia (``graceful tenors'') of our time. He hits each of Tonio's treacherous notes with an unerring ping, and with no hint of strain. He doesn't slide up to them but attacks them staccato, just as the score demands.
cucuchi10 10 months ago 3
excelente interpretacion !!!!!!!
sabiduriagrande 10 months ago
si pues no lo supera porque tendria que estar mas gordito jajajjaj la envidia que terrible de esta gente
sabiduriagrande 10 months ago
¡¡¡Bravisimo; Gran Cantante, Gran Escuela y Exelente Artista!!! Son las virtudes,
no muy pocas y tan buenas, de este exelente cantante. Pero, debo decirlo, en
este aria, esta soberbio, ¡¡¡Pero No Supera a Pavarotti!!!.
55werther 10 months ago
bravo et merci
wanchaan 11 months ago
Wow he's great!
principessa1127 11 months ago
The things that make Juan Diego Florez's rendition of this aria much better than others are so subtle that those who don't have a trained ear cannot hear the difference. One most listen to his octave jumps, you can't hear the difference between his registers. Everyone knows that he has to be using a ton of head voice for him to be able to hit the high C. However, his passagio is so strong that one can't tell the difference. There are many other subtleties that make Juan Diego Florez far superior
amrascarpathia 11 months ago 2
@amrascarpathia those octave leaps completely skip over the passagio, so I don't really understand what you're saying here. I do agree, however, that it is an excellent performance in every way, especially in the evenness of tone quality throughout his range. Nobody has performed the aria this well since Pavarotti.
stripp2010 11 months ago
@stripp2010 lol my point was pretty much that, that both octaves have the same quality. With most other performances that I have seen you can clearly hear the change of registers. However, Juan Diego has such a technique that it's not the case with him. lol Does that make sence or am I still confusing people.
amrascarpathia 11 months ago
You guys should listen to some of his interviews on here.. he talks about loving to be challenged by arias of this nature and how when he first began to take jobs that the companys wouldnt let him sing the full operas that are sometimes cut, until he proved himself.. and now companys beg him to sing exact scores.
11canton11 11 months ago
Why do people go on about the impressive number of top Cs a given tenor has sung in this aria? I mean basically anyone who sings it sings a lot of top Cs because they are in the score, no?
orlando098 11 months ago 2
@orlando098 I forget whether the original score has all those Cs, but a lot of tenors in that role sing lower notes instead. Also, they don't perform this opera that often because tenors with that specific range are rare.
othmarschoeck 11 months ago
@othmarschoeck
OK, thanks. Do they transpose the whole aria down or if not what do they replace the top Cs with? I am trying to imagine how you could avoid them and can't imagine any lower note would sound very good. I suppose you could do an A if you then sang two FFs rather than A and F just afterwards. But I would think the audience would feel a bit short-changed. Re, the range, I don't think tenors with top Cs are rare, but ones who are comfortable jumping up to it continually are i guess
orlando098 11 months ago
@orlando098 Not all tenors take the High Cs but replace them with B naturals.
suzanneetmoi 11 months ago
@suzanneetmoi
Do you mean they transpose the whole song down then? Because I was just trying on a keyboard and it would sound terrible if you just replaced the Cs with Bs and left the rest the same.
orlando098 11 months ago
@othmarschoeck Yes, the original score DOES have the 9 high Cs written in, but they can, and are, often replaced with B naturals.
suzanneetmoi 11 months ago
@orlando098 Because
a) The top Cs are frequent and have to be blended easily into the aria, unlike many tenor arias that simply finish with a high note
b) Any note above A is very tiring for a tenor to sing, particularly frequently and loudly.
c) There is a whole opera with a few more top Cs either side of this one aria. Ergo, to tire yourself out quickly with one aria would be a massive mistake. Therefore, the song demands good technique.
witness124 11 months ago
@witness124
thanks, I think that is a good assessment of why the aria is considered difficult. But I wasn't denying it is difficult, just saying it seems a little odd that people often wax lyrical about the great tenor so and so who sang nine high Cs in Ah mes amis! when if they are going to do the role of Tonio, it's basically expected
orlando098 11 months ago
@orlando098 that is true, and you have every right to feel that way. However, just because something's expcted of a sionger when they take a role, doesn't mean we can't still marvel in awe of his technical ability. To be fair, this is the hardest single role Donizetti ever wrote. There are very few tenors who can do this. And, therefore, there are many ways to simplify, shorten, or transpose this aria. I suppose the fact is that Florez has rejected all of these changes, and stuck with the score
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oliveranthonyrowland 11 months ago
@witness124
OK, thanks. I wasn't saying I didn't admire him here, by the way. I can sing a top C but not easily and think trying to sing this would be very tiring for me. I think he does it excellently. By the way do you know any versions on YT where alterations are made to make it easier, so I can compare?
orlando098 11 months ago
@witness124
I suppose it comes down to whether or not they rose to the challenge well and made it look relatively effortless (and genuinely have the right kind of voice for the role), as in Florez, Kraus , the young Pavarotti etc
orlando098 11 months ago
BRAVO,BRAVO Y MAS BRAVO.....FANTASTICO!!!!!!!!
visiaitite 1 year ago
so effortless. wonderful. Moving around as he sings those is just pure bravery haha
tmberry 1 year ago
I can't get enough of this.
TheIrreligious 1 year ago
Hell yeah. One of my favorite contemporary tenors.
tenor529 1 year ago
off key/flat at times. brownlee more precise. but diego has a more brilliant sound.
piax00 1 year ago
off key at times. brownlee more precise.
piax00 1 year ago
How many top Cs? HOW MANY TOP Cs? I'm not perfectly sure, but i'd count on at the very least around 10-20.
witness124 1 year ago
@witness124 There are NINE HIgh C's- of course, more it you count the encores, when taken!
suzanneetmoi 11 months ago
Oh I absolutely agree! I agree that 34 is young, but unless you're in the opera world people don't see it that way. We're coming to a world where increasingly popular mediums such as football and basketball are making 34 years seem "OLD" but in our profession that's YOUNG!
jrjorgensen2519 1 year ago
@jrjorgensen2519 Hell yes. Wagner? Later works of Verdi? My vocal trainer told me not to bother till I'm thirty even practicing it.
witness124 1 year ago
I don´t know why some people here so criticize Florez and say he is succesful only because good marketing and that he can´t be well heard in theatre, live... people have ears, and if they applaud so much much when he sings live in theatre, so he should be good.and i like his recordings, i havent listened to his live singing. why else would they have wanted him to repeat the ah mes amis at the met? because they didnt hear him well for the first time:-))) ?
eurydike 1 year ago
Zimmerman’s production of Vincenzo Bellini’s La Sonnambula, April 2009
“Juan Diego-Florez is splendid in the part of the tenor hero. Again, he makes a case that he is the best lyric tenor to appear since Pavarotti. Complimenting him is Dessay, who is affecting and lovely . “
cucuchi10 1 year ago 2
o The Observer, Sunday 23 May 2010
.... “As her shy, knobbly-kneed boyfriend Tonio, Juan Diego Flórez returned to wow us with those famous top Cs and pure, unsullied vocal gymnastics. Only Pavarotti, in living memory, could make it all sound so similarly effortless...”
cucuchi10 1 year ago 2
Le jeune Pavarotti était incomparable mais son français était à peine compréhensible. Seuls JDF et Kraus chantent vraiment en français, avec une pointe d'accent mais un naturel parfait, ce qui les distingue de tous les autres interprètes.
veronique118 1 year ago
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a sad imitation of pavarotti.
slicerprime 1 year ago
He didn't start singing opera until he was 17. He will be one of the all time greats
joeyboy1951 1 year ago 2
I don't really like tenor voices,
but I really love his! he's such a great singer.
HappyLuckyGlad 1 year ago 2
SALUDOS DESDE CHILE AL MEJOR TENOR SUDAMERICANO!!!!!!!!!!!!
majomatta 1 year ago
What a bunch of jealous people here!!!
777bandida 1 year ago 2
Lawrence Brownlee sings it MUCH better, in my opinion.
damaestro777 1 year ago
bravo!
acquaconlebolle 1 year ago
bravo!
acquaconlebolle 1 year ago
bravo!
acquaconlebolle 1 year ago
Listen to this aria Giovanni Sabbatini. It is a singing lesson that Flores should hear
linow666 1 year ago
@linow666 Who is Giovanni Sabbatini? You mean Giuseppe, right?
bassavoce 1 year ago
@bassavoce, Right. I wrote it wrong.
linow666 1 year ago
@linow666 ive heard, and there is nothing for him to learn. Sabbatini is a lyrical tenor, so they have very different voices, and though you may prefer the fuller lyrical tenor to Florez's airy leggiero, there is a substantial distance in the agility in the upper registry. Florez does beautifully resonant high C's, while Sabbatini struggles through several of them. What you like is the lyrical voice, which is something Florez will never have, which is just fine for those who love his leggiero.
GNH1934 1 year ago
@GNH1934 ,1- Sabbatini is lirico leggero or light lirico , and can sing (beautifully) part of the Flores repertoire -. I do not prefer vocal quality classification but nice technique. The eihgt C4 Sabbatini´s is perfect but not to easy as the peruvian, who is only good in high notes and make a song with little quality. He is more famous than good singer. Sabbatini is better than the famous singer and overcomes the Peruvian technique......
linow666 1 year ago
@linow666 you think he is pure marketing?..I have seen the best opera crowds in Europe (Scala, Zurich, Covent Garden), give an ovation non stop, on up to 15 minutes in Zurich) until the director accepted he do encores. Marketing...no, I've seen it live, he makes people feel in a different way. He is the first encore in the Scala in almost a century, which is basically a taboo..that isn't marketing. What we think is irrelevant, he achieved this singing, live.
GNH1934 1 year ago
@GNH1934 .He is an expressive musician that sings highs notes.We live in a world where there are few good tenors as before. Today, a tenor who sings the high notes can be a sucessful career. This all more marketing equals: "Diego Flores" is a "god"! Do not make me laugh. In Brazil where the Flores' marketings is not so power, is just a good singer, never a god. That's my opinion although many critics in Brazil love it too. Not me.
linow666 1 year ago
@linow666 ,Lawrence Brownlee and Kenneth Tarver is so good that Flores. The difference is the marketing and the agents.So I say it is pure marketing.
linow666 1 year ago
@linow666 No es un problema de marketing. Florez es el mejor. La envidia frente a su exito hace que le opongan otros!
lydiaguarro 8 months ago
@linow666 I never called him a god, don't even know where you read this...read again and polish your english before going on 4 messages about something you read wrong. Yes, I am a fan and I dont need to be a critic, never needed to be one. And no, people aren't good because I like them...they are good because they are good, and that has to be the consensus of a majority. You can say what you want, but as said, when he does this LIVE, he brings operas to a full stop...and that isn't marketing.
GNH1934 1 year ago
@GNH1934 My english is really bad and I do not deny. I translated by google and fix it my way. But you could understand everything that I think of his idol Diego Flores. I'll do an English course just to be able to chat with you. Ok? Or let's talk in Portuguese and want to see if you can write well. Are you American? In general Americans only speak English.
linow666 1 year ago
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@GNH1934 , I still think Lawrence Brownlee and Kenneth Tarver is so good that Flores. The difference is the marketing and the agents.
linow666 1 year ago
@linow666 do you mean Giuseppe Sabbatini? He is 54 years old! can't be compared to 38 year old or a 34 year old when this video was taken.
riverice7 3 months ago
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riverice7 3 months ago
Respond to this video...When this video was taken Florez is 34 years old, Guiseppe Sabbatini would've been 50 years old the performance can't be compared
riverice7 3 months ago
@GNH1934 ,2- ....... I love Blake that is lirico leggero too and i do not like Flores why is not as good as they say. Pure Marketing. Any singer can learn to sing with other singers regardless of classification, or do you think Flores has nothing to learn with Pavarotti, Di Stefano, Caruso just because they are not lirico leggero?
linow666 1 year ago
@linow666 say what you want, but neither of had audiences bring operas to a full stop by audiences who have heard Pavarotti. Maybe he hasn't been a hit in Salvador du Bahia, but when he can bring Covent Garden to their feet, and have audiences demand an encore at the most difficult opera houses in the world, he must be doing something right. I have seen him live..and I have seen Pavarotti live...Florez is simply exquisite...he isnt powerful, he just makes you believe there is a god when singing.
GNH1934 1 year ago
@GNH1934.So you're a fan and not a critic. Never can be separating idol and singer. I'm not from Salvador-Bahia but you think that who lives there can not opine on opera. And who told you that in Bahia Flores is not famous? So you like Flores just because he is successful at Covent Garden? I thought you liked simply because you like him....part 1
linow666 1 year ago
@GNH1934 . Success is relative, not technical capability. Oprah Winfrey is a goddess in the U.S. for which she is famous there. Maradona is a god in Argentina but in Brazil, Pelé is the god. You like Flores because the marketing made you believe it. To say that peruvian is a god is isane . There are many other lirico leggero was much better than Flores. If Flores is a god, we are in Greece, and are many gods. It can be a Hades, but will never be Zeus. Believe me, marketing has its limits.
linow666 1 year ago
@GNH1934 .In a world where there are very few tenors, Flores is considered a god for you and many others, but not for me.
linow666 1 year ago
Florers only indisputable with this aria, but listen to Giovanni Sabbatini. It is equal or better but he is not famous as the Peruvian.
The notes C4 Sabbatini were much better than Flores sang. The Italian humiliates the famous Peruvian.
linow666 1 year ago
wow esto es lindisimo que pulmones todo bien espreciosisimo una hobra en la voz Dios nunca se equivoca con lo que hace.
sanichihiyono 1 year ago
teniamos anos sin escuchar un tipo de este calibre
tuliviejo02 1 year ago
GREAT JUAN!! the best of a new generation of tenors!
c605 1 year ago 40
I saw him last season at SF Opera. I had pretty good seats. Alas I couldn't really hear him. I could hear the others e.g. Damrau - but Florez has such a tiny voice. I'm a Rossini buff so I had hoped for more. Not all Rossini or Donizetti tenors have tiny voices. Bruce Ford doesn't have a real big voice but much bigger than Florez'. Chris Merrit actually has a quite large voice as does Frank Lopardo (the last guy I heard in this role). Florez is no Bill Harness.
Agorante 1 year ago
@Agorante I disagree, he is very capable of filling the Met with his voice, even if you are higher up you hear him well
Calatrava00 1 year ago
An aria sung by Blake Rock was better all career Flores. The Peruvian has a voice of a mosquito.
linow666 1 year ago
Enjoyed his great singing...love it!
lolliereal4homes 1 year ago
Very beautiful voice. Bravo. Thanks for uploading.
tamerlano236 1 year ago
One of the best tenorinos in the world with an impeccable technique.
ilrimpianto 1 year ago 2
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Definitely one of the top tenors around today. And he's such a nice guy.
tweedy127 1 year ago
Definitely one of the top tenors around today. And he's such a nice guy.
tweedy127 1 year ago
Stunning voice and so handsome too. BTW who was the delightful French redhead (a Pippi Longstocking of opera) who performed this role with him? She was a delight!
seattleladt 1 year ago
@seattleladt Natalie Dessay
SchwarzeWitwe2 1 year ago
Bravo!!
danekjovax 1 year ago
I love this interpretation so much.
But when he walks out, he's marching incorrectly. haha If there's one thing I've learned in my years in musical theater, when you march, your arms should swing opposite your legs :) I'm guilty of it too though, so I'll let it slide :P
Rachmoose 1 year ago 2
@Rachmoose That's because of the rol, Tonio was not supposed to be a militar, he entered just for Maria. He was an amateur. That's why he must show this particularly difficulty in marchin'
Camdeus 11 months ago
i like his voice and he is so handsome. such as Carreras.
young Carreras had everything too:-))) that a tenor needs.
eurydike 1 year ago 10
@eurydike I'm glad to hear you refer to him as a "young" tenor. In this recording he was 34; which means I have another 11 years old until I am a "young" tenor. Haha It's important for us REALLY young singers to remember just how "old" some of these singers are in these definitive performances such as this so we don't push ourselves too early!
jrjorgensen2519 1 year ago
@jrjorgensen2519
34 is young, why not? you surely can´t call him middle-aged, if he is only 34. and he looks young too:-)
eurydike 1 year ago
Voice quality like a goat. Never heard an Italian Tenor sing like a girl.
jwhitaker26 1 year ago
@jwhitaker26 hes peruvian 1000%
latinkin6 1 year ago
Voice quality sound like a goat! I never heard Italian tenor sing like a girl. His high C isn't quite a high C. He is right on a key but that is not high C.
jwhitaker26 1 year ago
@jwhitaker26 do you have any ears?
tessamri 1 year ago 2
Voice quality sound like a goat! I never heard Italian tenor sing like a girl.
jwhitaker26 1 year ago
@jwhitaker26 Giuseppe di Stefano...
RoOodOoOloOmeg 1 year ago
what an amazing voice!what a gift he has.
EliathJazealZar 1 year ago
personas como juan diego, estan fuera de toda comparacion, es absurdo que comparen quien es mejor, eso dejemoslo para los seres comunes, las personas especiales como el son seres tocados con un don unico
cantantefrustrada 1 year ago
What a voice!
chasriner 1 year ago
Florez' singing voice has to be one of the prettiest male voices in the world of music (whether in the world of pop, classical or rock music). He really shows off his voice in this aria. How in the world does he toss off those high C's without making mistakes. I know he has many years of training and whatnot. Still, I am impressed by Florez' voice. I just hope that his singing voice will go into decline as he gets older. Bravo, Juan! Bravo! Keep up the good work.
lunashot 1 year ago 2
@lunashot yeah, to me it sounds like fran drescher...man, i think his voice is so high pitched and annoying...he can sing there's no doubt but i dont think he has a beautiful voice...bocelli however i believe does, and is in the same type of voice...tenore ligero. i think however jonas kaufman has a hell of a voice.as
abialex 1 year ago
@abialex Bocelli has a beautiful voice but in terms of techniques, I believe Florez has better techniques. I don't think that Florez' voice is annoying. His voice is anything but annoying. You can't really compare Kaufmann to Florez since Kaufmann is a spinto tenor. I always thought Kaufmann would be great in a Wagner opera since Kaufmann's timbre is dark and powerful. Plus he's German. According to Wikipedia, he was in Lohengrin. I wonder if he was in other Wagner operas.
lunashot 1 year ago
@lunashot i understand your point of view, but you do know that bocelli and florez both are in the same type of voice rite? they are both ligero tenore...the only reason as to why people dont like bocelli singing operas is simply because he sings pop...and he has a very beautiful voice in pop. now, i am a lyric tenore forte, so i'm between a spinto and a lyric tenore...and i also sing all kinds of crap, RNB, salsa, classical, opera, etc...so i understand why people dont like bocelli. but being
abialex 1 year ago
@lunashot able to sing lots of genres like i do make me a lesser lyric tenore? absolutely not, in fact, i only found out i was a tenore when i started taking classes from the miami lyric opera director...maestro cardone, who happens to be friends with domingo, carreras, and the late pavaroti...wy am i telling you this? well, simply because to my teacher i still am a lyric tenore...of course my voice is very powerful but not as dark as kaufman...i think he has a badass voice..but florez, i think
abialex 1 year ago
@abialex God bless you for your ability to sing different genres of music. I never said that the ability to sing a lot of genre makes someone a lesser lyric tenor. It just seems to be that if there was a sing-off between Bocelli and Flroez, in terms of techniques ONLY, Florez will most likely win. They both have beautiful voices but Florez does have more experience in terms of singing live opera so therefore it seems to me that Florez will likely have better techniques than Bocelli.
lunashot 1 year ago
@abialex I'm sure that both Bocelli & Florez both learned the techniques of opera singes when they started learning to sing operas. But it's hard to maintain those techniques after you master them if you don't sing live operas because singing operas in recording studios as opposed to singing them live are not the same thing. That doesn't make Bocelli less of a singer but just a different singer. Although I'm no fan, I still think Bocelli's voice is better than 99% of the male singers in pop &
lunashot 1 year ago
@abialex rock. That is what I think of Bocelli. Great voice but not necessarily one of the best male singers in the world of opera today.
lunashot 1 year ago
@abialex In addition to the fact that Florez sings UNAMPLIFIED at the Met whereas Bocelli sings in heavily amplified concerts and very few people heard his live voice, and that his attempts at live opera in provincial theaters got bad reviews, Florez has a great coloratura ability. You say Bocelli is a leggero, but I've never heard him demonstrate coloratura or sing this aria with its 9 high Cs. Have you heard Brownlee? Also leggero, but darker timbre than Florez, you might like him.
jewelmarkess 1 year ago
parece que esta alcanzando el nivel de kraus mi buen juan diego sigue asi, es verdad que aun le falta un poco pero es joven parece que lo puede lograr, al nivel de pavarotti? MMMMMMMMM diria que lastimosamente no llegara a tanto, siendo peruano lo digo .. y no necesito ser un conocedor de musica para darme cuenta que uno canta mejor que el otro -.- ''
ZcOrPiOxD 1 year ago
@ZcOrPiOxD que nivel es ese? el ya esta en ese nivel, lo que pasa que ustedes ven a jovenes cantores menos simplemente porque no tienen el reconosimiento de muchos viejos. y te digo esto con la verdad de que a mi no me gusta su voz. pero no puedo negar que canta tremendo. lo mismo decian de pavaroti cuando era joven, mas cuando viejo lo ponen en una alta veneracion...que cambio? nada, solo su fama...lo mismo con todos los otros cantores quen cantan bello...ejemplo; jonas kaufman...
abialex 1 year ago
@abialex es cierto lo que dices pero muy aparte de la fama tambien esta el talento, juan diego es un tremendo tenor pero bueno escuchando otros como pavarotti, kraus, etc me doy cuenta de que tienen mejor "registro" o que llegan a las notas mas altas con mayor facilidad no se si esos seran los terminos por eso digo que no soy un experto conocedor de este tema solo es mi opinion .. =D
ZcOrPiOxD 1 year ago
@ZcOrPiOxD no al contrario...se dice que florez canta alticimo con facilidad. pero esque yo pienso que su voz no es suave y fuerte a la vez. domingo tiene una tremenda voz y que encanta como se hoye el poder detras de ella en los tonos altos...claro, el es in tenor dramatico. yo no digo que florez no es excellente, por que lo es, pero es mi opinion como cantante que no me facina su voz. pero la verdad es que el ES un tenor excepcional...solo que a mi no me facina com jonas kaufman, bocelli,
abialex 1 year ago
sigue así JUAN...!
Maricielo9000 1 year ago
How is it that both tenors; Florez and Villazon have dark curly hair? Well, they both have amazing voices and are very good performers.
Madamina1000 1 year ago
This is phenomenal.
seventhseal100 1 year ago
One of the greatest tenors of our time!
Bballboy4life2 1 year ago
grandioso pero mi entendimiento es limitado alguien POR FAVOR podria comentar de que se trata, gracias
zazacast 1 year ago
Bravo!
Bravissimo!
Florez has a great voice. His high C´s sounds terriffic.
Optimus144 1 year ago
He is incredible! Please more videos
YellowFlowerofTexas 1 year ago
orrendo.
bodiloto 1 year ago
@bodiloto assolutamente d'accordo =)
MrIndorato 1 year ago
Just back from seeing this at Covent Garden. What a breathtaking performance. Natalie Desay was also an absolute star with a lively display of perfect comic timing.
horsegent1 1 year ago
I just saw this production last week at the Royal Opera House!!!! It was INCREDIBLE. The C's were perfect. Dessay was great, too! I was so incredibly lucky enough to be let in the stage door, and got Florez and Dessay's autograph! It was incredible.
cuckthefardinals 1 year ago
@cuckthefardinals :O:O:O:O :( lucky
neoclassicalsop 1 year ago
*chocolate*
VolkgartenBySquirrel 1 year ago
splendido!!! non mi stanco mai di ascoltarlo
botegher 1 year ago
This production has returned to London with Natalie Dessay and Juan Diego Florez and I can confirm BOTH were WONDERFUL, TERRIFIC, MAGNIFICENT. Both suit their respective roles perfectly for this comic opera. Nothing beats seeing them sing this live.... LOVED it and them!
muscleboi4use 1 year ago
i could watch this a million times and never get tired of it.
yourpotentialbff 1 year ago
2x tickets to see juan diego florez at the Barbican hall this friday 7.30 pm 7th may 2010 these are super seats and face value £55.00 each please call me on 07801656034 unable to make concert
aussieskiff 1 year ago
Simply brilliant!
sethmartinr10 1 year ago
wow! bravo! Do you know who his singing teachers have been??
violetavalery 1 year ago
Que va viejo... suena bien... por lo menos va por buen camino, pero echale un camion de bolas porq lo que te falta es que jode!! jajajaja todavia recuerdo cuando lo escuche en vivo (la vaina se agoto por la propaganda) sali de ese concierto muerto de la arrechera porq casi no se escuchaba!! esto se nota que es grabacion!
ricardoazocar666 1 year ago
wonderful chap . great voice .
autogyro100 1 year ago
Perfecto, Florez! Una versión de antología! (hay gente aquí que está muy dolida de que su idolito haya sido superado por Florez... )
f1a6b3 1 year ago
juan diego eres el mejor, espero algun dia escucharlo en vivo
druiz87 1 year ago
his best performance on youtube by far. hits the high C's as well as every other note dead on. and with relative ease, that's the true sign of a well trained singer.
PlatonicEnigma 1 year ago 2
I think all Peruvians can be proud of this great tenor. I never have understood why some sneer at him, as if he were not a genuine Peruvian. Peru is a nation of many different groups. He would probably be classified as "criollo"...a Peruvian of mainly Spanish ancestry. So? One doesn't have to be Indian or part Indian to be Peruvian. He is as Peruvian as anyone else born in that nation.
saagua1953 1 year ago
@saagua1953
You know there is no point in classifying because your external appearance does not always correlate with your racial makeup. I am Peruvian and my family is so mixed that you can't predict what the next generation will look like. There is Indigenous, African, and European, so who knows which features will dominate?
Inti2343 1 year ago
it's not bad but i think pavarotti's c's are clearer^^
SaiyajinBroly 1 year ago