Persuasion (1995) - PART 2

[polargirl306]

I like both versions of the movie, they do the book justice.

[polargirl306]

I liked both movies, both did the book justice.

[nlhanks]

So this is why everyone loves the 1995 version. Amanda Root is such a darling version of Anne!

[salyo1]

The portrayal of Mary is exactly the same as the 2007 movie.

[13vlee]

marys annoying shes always thinking about herself. and i dont like elizabeth either i wanna slap her shes so rude.

[ShawDAMAN]

she's cute and very believable and sweet. they shuold have done something with her eyebrows though hehehe ;-p

[Cooldy23]

i still liked the 2007

[stardust123]

that ham looks really good lol

[chookfeather]

I don't care the big deal made over Anne's looks. She's 27...old for the time a woman who has been disappointed in love, weighed down by the demands of family. Her sadness is supposed to manifest itself physically was always my impression of the book. Look at other "spinsterish" characters in other books Charlotte Lucas...they are described as "plain" and so is Anne meant to be. I love Ciaran and Amanda they are the perfect Wentworth and Anne in my opinion

[BlackDahlia333]

@chookfeather Actually Anne was not described as plain in the book. She wasn't young for that era, true, but she was, along with her sister Elizabeth, always considered a beautiful woman. Mary was the plain of the family. I personally always thought of Anne as beautiful, just not so young. She was noway near Charlotte Lucas, ugly. I don't mind the plainness of Amanda Root, but she looks nothing near 27. I'm not saying that she isn't a good actress but I wish she looked more at Anne's age.

[JacobGrimmFollower]

I hate the way they've portrayed Elizabeth in this adaptation. They've made her look like she wasn't a lady. In the book, she is a bit mean towards Anne, but never uncivil.

[japeeisalwaysthebest]

I don't like Elizabeth

[silverbud]

7:15 English meat pie and ham. They always eat heartily in BBC films. :-D

[anisete46]

I wish I could combine this version with the 2007 one, to keep what I liked, and remove what I disliked in each... I think the combination would be the perfect adaptation...

[ErikandVsangel]

is elizabeth or mary the eldest? and anne's the youngest right?

[suwaidajalal]

@ErikandVsangel Elizabeth is the eldest, Anne in the middle and Mary's the youngest!

[ErikandVsangel]

@suwaidajalal ook thanks very much....i guess i should have guessed mary was the youngest bcuz shes always whining about something

[AVBKansas]

@ErikandVsangel

Elizabeth is the oldest I believe

[shangoshun]

Uggghh Mary can be so annoying.

[tortor8833]

Amanda Root was 32 when she made this movie.

[givemeahugNOW]

Actually i'm enjoying this version - LOL :D

[ragatso666]

I like this Ann better than the 2007 version

[Erinaberinaboferina]

..i've always assumed that Mary was pregnant during the course of the book/movies, it's just the way she always rags on about her 'condition'...

[qua9]

Always the cups of tea, practically actors all their own... ;P I like that Anne is plain. It's more real than shimmering photogenic beauty (which is not the stuff of great love stories, really.) But she really does not look 27. I do not know any 27-year-old who looks 40, no matter how plain!

[writingal2]

@qua9 Yeah, that's on of my issues. She looks old. The acting is great, the lines too, she's not even ugly she just looks older than she should. Same for Captain Wentworth.

[afanoftheclassics]

@writingal2 I think Anne's meant to look old, I mean, it's a while since i read the book but i think it says she's 27. And "her bloom had faded early" ie, she looks older than she actually is. Please correct me if i'm wrong!

[Imapeach1]

Anne get treated horribly,my heart broke for her.

[tanyabl]

I am so ill i can hardly speak hahahah, I hate her but that part made me laugh haha

[LNsmiles]

They actually look like sisters in this one! woah

[MelanieYourFace]

I especially like this version for the ending. I own the 2007 version, but they don't include the whole scene where Captain Wentworth listens to Anna and writes the letter. But, it's my favorite part of the book and this movie.

[rocknrolia]

Thank you for this! Best Jane Austen adaptation ever. Excellent quality as well. Your channel is incredible. :)

[Ilovecats112233]

They said Anne was only nineteen! I'm eighteen, but she looks old enough to be my mother - at least she is now, even if she wasn't then. I wonder if Amanda does have children, and if they're my age or older. She might even have young grandchildren! I also wonder if she's one of those characters that is warm and kind to everyone, even if they're not her own children. I hope that if I met her, she would love me like I was her daughter.

[Ally2572]

@Ilovecats112233 She was 19 when she met Wentworth, she's 27 when this is set.

[policemanaaron]

@Ilovecats112233

The character of Anne Elliot is 27 years old. She was 19 when she rejected Wentworth's proposal of marriage.

[soulgirl66]

Lady Russell=the ultimate "buttinsky"

[QueenBoadicea]

@soulgirl66 I find this Lady Russell to be more agreeable than the one in the 2007 version. While her advice to Anne was hurtful to the girl's feelings, you have the notion that she was sincerely attached to Anne and her family and was determined that Anne be happy...and she was certain Anne couldn't be with a penniless sailor.

[soulgirl66]

@QueenBoadicea I will grant you that this actress interprets Lady Russell more empathetically, but I found in the book that she seems to use her friendship with Anne's deceased mother to find an excuse to impose herself in every aspect of Anne's like, and Anne out of respect is inclined to accept it.

[QueenBoadicea]

@soulgirl66 You'll find a better example of that kind of busybody in Mrs. Norris, a vain, cheap, penny-pinching, pushy little woman in Austen's "Mansfield Park".

[venenossa]

Poor Mary, she suffers from such lack of attention, her husband preferred Anne to her, same treatment in her political family and neglection from her father and Elizabeth, Hipocondriac

[silviacryan]

Thanks very much for posting this version, it is also my fav one, plus I lived in this part of the English countryside for two years, in Taunton, I was a silly girl by not paying attention to names of places!

[420yeehaw]

Anyone else feel like the heroine in every Austen novel is a piece of Jane herself??

[angiesamoa]

Theres a 2005 version?

[screamscream12345]

2007 :)

[Lilithly]

mary reminds me of this funny woman in "emma" (gwyneth paltrow version^^) this one who always speaks so fast....mrs bates i think. are they played y the same actor? does anyone know? or maybe i

[Lilithly]

@Lilithly or maybe i´m wrong. that´s what i wanted to say but my laptop obviously didn´t want me to finish my sentence:)

[saerwen1894]

@Lilithly yeah, they are the same person. I thought that too and had to look it up

[Lilithly]

@saerwen1894 ok thanks^^

[mtav30]

@Lilithly Yes, the actress playing both Mary here and Miss Bates in Emma is Sophie Thomson, Emma Thomson's sister (fun fact: the part of Mrs Bates in Emma was played by her mother, Phyllida Law)

[rosie21114]

Mary is so self-centered and such a snob!

[missevilkitty]

I like both the 2005 and the 2007 version of the book but the Music in the 2007 is less 'sad"

[dentednj]

I enjoy the casting and story of this version of the book MUCH more than the Masterpiece Theater version shown last night. It's really fabulous.

[ladyhawke1990]

OmG it's Daisy from keeping up appearances!!

[islandsylph]

Hypochondria at it's best. What a depressing woman; Tis no wonder others do not wish to partake in her company

[islandsylph]

Lady Russell is a kind woman.

[vivascargill]

@islandI wonder--but of course Austen is so subtle that sometimes one is not sure

[Minty210]

Oh, this Anne is really sweet :) You can see why people are attracted to her. I watched the 2007 version just before and i really couldn't warm to that Anne. She wasn't -kind-.

[avalon2468]

i know what you mean she was more anxoius than sweet or kind.

[andieph]

@Minty210 I agree with you, the 2007 version was boring and so far removed from th book.

[phocid78]

Thanks so much for posting this adaptation of Persuasion! By far the best one made, I think! Amanda Root is so adorable! I just tried watching the 2007 adaptation and it was just too ghastly, so I fled! But then I found this to wash my poor hurt eyes with! :P

[DarkSakuraVII]

@phocid78 OK, instead of critisizing another movie, why don't you concentrate more on praising this version and stop treating it like emergency eyedrops

[joanadarcns]

i dont agre. i think sophie ressembles her sister's face

[tokyopiglet]

i love the chopin BG music and BIG HAM at dinner table...looks yammy...

[reinadegrillos]

Here all act fine!

But I'm also in love with the captain!

[ClaraX13]

great actiing!

[Starryeyes244]

why does ane always loo dead :)

[radkid06]

I find Anne quite attractive. She has a very subtle attraction, it's in her demeanor I guess. Does anyone else think so?

[jackie28]

I agree, her looks improves as the story goes on.

[sexynebula]

I love this version!

[buddhapunx]

"Lady Russell, but your hair is so punk rock!"

"Yes, my hairdresser, Guy from Bath, who never took one ..."

[JimmyJazz35L]

I feel like that green stripey thing she's wearing loosely round her neck helps matters as well.

(I feel bad that 'green stripey thing' is the best I can do.)

[DestinedRevolution]

LOL!

[userone1000]

I like this Mary a WHOLE LOT more than the one from 2007.

[starcc1]

whoa. i imagined mary to be like, normal whiny. i felt kinda sorry for her in the books.

i didnt imagine her to be this hardcore stuck-up whiny annoying

[pwhowell]

Mary's behaviour to anne is understandable when you consider that her in-laws prefer anne and her husband did propose to anne first - of course mary is as conceited as the rest of the eliot family - but it must be awful when you know your husband's entire family would have preferred him to have married your sister! Poor mary :)

[absterlyholt]

uhh that woman is Dreadful!!!

[TexasHippopotamus]

What does it mean " to be in a good situation"?

[jepenner]

it means to have a very nice house, substantial income, that sort of thing. basically, to have money and to be able to let everybody know it. :)

does this help?

[TexasHippopotamus]

Thanks!

[j0andc0]

@jepenner

I think Texas was refering to the good situation in Bath for the family, luxury accomadation near the centre of Bath society is what you mean.

[jepenner]

yes, thank you. that was what i meant. you explained it very well. :)

[MusicalMaiden92]

I never really like Mary. She was so whiny and complaining! lmao

[thrice3muses]

I like this Anne better than the 2007 Anne...she's much more natural I think.

[TooJubeJM1]

this is the best version of "Persuasion". I love it as much as North and South, Tristan and Isolde, Pride and Prejudice (2005) and Sparkhouse. Would be grateful for any suggestions of other equally lovely films I might not have discovered yet.

[rosdal90]

i don't know if you have seen Jane Eyre (2006- version) with Toby Stephens and Ruth Wilson....

[TooJubeJM1]

thank you for your suggestion. I have just ordered the dvd of the 2006 version. Can't wait to watch it. In the meantime, I have discovered Shakespeare Retold on YouTube. Wonderful too.

[rosdal90]

Thanks 4 the info. I'll definately check it out. :)

[anaarkadievna]

i can say i liked "Emma"(1996) with Gwyneth Paltrow!

[TooJubeJM1]

Mmm,...yes, Emma is really nice, and that version is the best.

[zahir13]

I would recommend the 1996 "Jane Eyre" with Cieran Hinds, as well as "Northanger Abbey" (2007) and--if you are in a VERY dark mood--"Perfume: The Story of a Murderer."

[TooJubeJM1]

thank you so much for this information. Mmm hours of pleasure coming up!

[beautifulbutdeadly56]

The actress who plays Mary, tends to play the annoying woman in these period dramas LOL.

[givemechancepls]

In fact, her name is Sophie Thompson and she's Emma Thompson's sister in real life. By the way, I think that they're not in the least alike, don't you agree?

[givemechancepls]

I also think Sophie is married in real life to the actor who plays Robert Ferrars in Sense and Sensibility 1995 version. I think I heard Emma Thompson saying so in the extra commentaries when they released the DVD.

[jamierourketen]

i can't find any story....when does it begin...

[RoyalSympathyBand]

The script is very good, tho I still prefer the 2007 version I think :)

[bella5405]

wow, i just read that amanda root was 40 yrs old when she shot this series....

[Unlshd91]

amanda root is the best anne ever!

[terestoye]

and ciarian Hinds the best captain Wentworth .

[irisindelight]

poor Anne. I want to slap Lady Russell. I know she thought she meant well, but at this point, when Anne has had no other prospects and is basically wasting away, she's only deluding herself to insist that counseling Anne's rejection was the right thing.

[JoRRRRRRRRRRRRRR]

well back then ... in that situation it was right they would live of nothing and not be likely to get alot

[irisindelight]

oh, I know... I understand her reasons and they were in her own eyes (and those of society) justified, but after a certain point, I feel like the harm caused by her meddling outweighs any good it may have done. I still want to slap her. XD

[pegcage]

Mrs. Musgrove is played by the woman who plays Daisy in Keeping Up Appearances. This is the first time I have seen her in anything else.

[Labryschick]

yes, she is. She's also in a 2000 production of David Copperfield - a made-for-television on TNT (yes i know, but the woman who played Clara was really cute). I love the character Daisy in Keeping Up Appearances.

[jepenner]

wasn't she also aunt petunia in the harry potter movies? or am i thinking of someone else?

[Labryschick]

No, you're right. I just checked on it.

[sunflowery12]

Henrietta or however you spell that plays Mariah in the new version of Mansfield park guess she loves jane austen films or acting in this era

[givemechancepls]

I think you're speaking about the actress Victoria Hamilton. She also appears as Colonel Forster's wife in the 1995 BBC adaptation of Pride and Prejudice with Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth. So you're right, she's very fond of Jane Austen!.

[huixue]

There are lots of people out there like Mary, I'm afraid to say. Self pity and over dramatic. May I never act like that so help me God.

[spontaneityitself]

All she does is complain ALL the time and i think its good that you can see what affect it has on people!

i know its only acting but still i think it's amazing how Ann just excepts it and stays calm the whole time and manages to talk people through almost anything even when she is on the verge of tears herself.

[BeautifulBellaJen]

I especially love how Mary feels the need

to constantly compare herself to Anne

and make herself look better.

As soon as Anne gets a compliment

about her piano skills...

"I can play too if you like; I am quite as

accomplished as Anne!"

As if Mary doesn't already have so much

more than Anne does.

[Bufurzone]

The problem back then was that women were forced to obey their guardians even if they were wrong,and now they're totally out of control!!

[Labryschick]

what? Let's not get into that argument...

PEOPLE are out of control.

[Bufurzone]

Iam not arguing,just telling the truth.Tell me do girls these days obey their fathers or guardians, if they ask 'em not to go out with boys?

[Ventolino94]

Tienes toda la razón Meljusenr. pero temo tener que desilusionarte con la "nueva" versión. En ella Anne tiene el peinado más horrible que te puedas imaginar...! El actor principal Perry-Jones es un guaperas... sólo de él "vive" esa versión!

[CearaQC]

She's not supposed to be the picture of health. She lost her true love 8 years prior and has no other prospects of marriage and has to live with that dreadful father of hers. Women back then didn't have much of a say and were always under the control of father, brother, uncle or husband.

[TsukiHana146]

@CearaQC

I'm glad I wasn't born back then. That would have sucked, I want to marry for love and to have respect, but if I been born back then, then wasn't much a chance for that!

[huixue]

emm. Anne is supposed to look sickly/pale. She has been unhappy for 8 years....neglected by her family and disappointed in love. I think she is a beautiful actress and starts to bloom later in the movie when she starts to have hope again.

[florianatarre]

at 10.19 that actress looks heaps like dylan moran

[ChrisSunHwa]

Ah! It's Daisy from "Keeping Up Appearances." Judy Cornwell rocks:D

[luvinmysailor]

did anybody else computer buffered the ENTIRE time?is there a way to stop this?

[julianamercy]

Not on this part of the movie, but that seems to happen a lot, with many videos... don't know why.

[buahdurian]

the two sisters are quite a bully

[Nimajamaj]

i think they have no sense and loyalty. Most spoiled girls are like their character.

[606curtis57]

is that cordelia from the original brideshead?

[GibGob]

She's Sophie Thompson...Emma Thompson's sister

[ThouShaltNotFear01]

This Mary reminds me of that one woman from Emma...the older one who always talked alot. I dont recall her name. Same actress perhaps?

[bookluver14]

yea it is the same actress, cant recall her name but shes famous

[msinvincible2000]

Sophie Thompson. She played Miss Bates in Emma.

[writingal2]

Anne is...pretty when she smiles.

Also, "I am SO ill" I love that line especially in the 2007 version.

[beautifulbutdeadly56]

How moany can Mary get? "I feel like death today" then she scoffs into the biggest meal in the world...bahaha

[maguisabel]

one of the sisters is Mariah in Mansfield park!

[beautifulbutdeadly56]

I thought I recognised her !

[VBacchante]

I love Victoria Hamilton, especially in Victoria and Albert. The cast for this film is superb.

[joshs141]

amanda root is my second cousin

[givemechancepls]

She's my sister-in-law too!

[pippacrawford]

Yes it is, and the woman who plays Mary is the one who played Miss Bates in Emma with Gwyneth Paltrow. LOL, such two very different characters!!

[beautifulbutdeadly56]

OH YEAH!!

[oooda]

I know this is a rather random question but the daughter og the Musgroves is that not the same woman that plays Mrs. Forster in the old adaptation of Pride and Prejudice? Gawd that will annoy me..

On another note, thaaaank you for posting this, I've been wanting to see it :)

[chookfeather]

Yes she also played the sl*tty sister in Masnfield Park. The Frances OConnor and Jonny Lee Miller version

[alonys]

in the first few min. of this part you can see why they choose this actress to play Ann - when her eyes glint she is pretty.

[scout2010]

yes, i love that - isn't she described in the book as being pretty mostly because of her large dark eyes? it's been a while since i've read it.

[wannabeaskypirate]

no i think your thinking of Elizabeth from Pride and Prejudice, they're the first feature Darcy acknowledges as being beautiful

:)

[15987631]

I very much appreciate this version. Fist, it is true to the novel... Second, it is not filmed like the stereotyped Hollywood love movies that look all alike in the way they are filmed and in the choice of the actors (always overly glamourous/beautiful :-))... Third, all the characters in this version look very natural and genuine - people like you and me - which makes the story very credible as we can identify to the actors very easily.

[ljchmom]

The Muskroves don't seem to really like Mary. In English tradition, would Charles had inherited the Muskroves estate.

[Lukmigindnu]

I appreciate both this adaption and the 2007 one. I think they both have something to offer. Much like the Jane Eyre adaptions (the one William Hurt and the one with Ruth Wilson).

There are subtle differences and these differences I like very much and therefore do not prefer one over another

[givemechancepls]

Then I recommend you the Jane Eyre 1997 version with Ciarán Hinds as Mr. Rochester and Samantha Morton as Jane. I liked it very much.

[TVwriter23]

Also watch the Timothy Dalton Version Rochester is extremely hot, but hey whatever. It was fun looking at Dalton. Frankly Dalton would be have been a hot Mr. Darcy.

[givemechancepls]

I totally agree with you!

[Angelfeather26]

Sorry for double posting but I just realized that the actress playing Mary is the same actress who played Miss Bates(?) in Emma(1996), I think. XD

[Saritha313]

omg you're right, but shouldn't Miss Bates be a great deal older than Mary?

[Angelfeather26]

I just can't help but feel sorry for Anne... :(

BTW, so far I like this version better than the others. Thank you for posting it!

[smileybeth]

its funny how everyone but her family loved and dotes on Anne. But her family puts her down. I love the Musgroves, Charles would have made a capital match - if Capt. Wentworth were not so agreeable (but he rocks and is so hot in the 2007 version)

[BlaDidaDida]

jesusss...i saw 2007 version ..tho sally is great actress she doesn t have the looks ...i thaught this version the actress would ...what's with jane austen british productions ...the girls are always so disapointingly not prety..in oposition the mann aree gorgeous !..there should be a fair pair

[pinchyoursoul]

It's so sad to see Anne ride with the pig whilst her horrible father and sister ride in a carriage!

[beckey707]

i like anne's sister mary (the 'sick' one) because i believe she wants anne near because she loves her very much (as a sister i mean) Only it is a bit sad for anne that every one depends so much on her and anne doesn't want to say no..

[mephistomix]

Mary doesn't love Anne, she's a selfish ignorant, not intelligent enough to be a bit jealous of Anne's natural disposition. She simply doesn't care for her.

[aileenpio]

"Altogether, I care little for these Romantics, do you?"--that's all we need to know about Lady Russell.

[mzconebone]

omg the british people are so hard to understand there should be captions

[aileenpio]

I love the way Mary says, "I'm so sick, I can't do anything" and then pigs out at lunch. Hilarious.

[xzibit54321]

wow, when i read the book first,k i imagined sophie thompson as being mary musgrove then after, i watched this. why does thompson alwsys play whiny idiots like mrs bates in emma, and charlotte in a room with a view

[jcbroadw]

It must suck to be type-cast as "the annoying one"!

[SaraElizabeth07]

Anne's sister (I think Elizabeth, right?) is supposed to be older than Anne. Other than that, I like the more realistic casting.

[beckey707]

I think anne was the oldest daughter that is wy they say once in the book that she has no hope of marrying again.

[SaraElizabeth07]

No Elizabeth was the oldest... Thats why she is "Miss Elliot" and anne is "Miss Anne Elliot." What I meant was that the woman who plays elizabeth looks MUCH younger than Anne does in this version. Anne is the middle child.

[beckey707]

A yes ..

But still i find it more strange (if you don't mind such tupes as elisabeth) that she is still unmarried rather than teh fact tha anne is still unmarried. On the other hand anne has already refused multiple man for various reasons.

[delmonny]

Anne is so different from her sisters. It makes me so curious to know what her mother was like. The book tells us a little, but I wish we knew more.