@thelethalchicken727 I'm glad you have expressed your opinion about me but I don't think everyone else cares about it, end of discussion and leave me alone and let me and everybody else enjoy the darn video... please.
@LukeGriffths121 You know what I'm 13 and you have no right to talk to someone that you have no clue is an idiot or not. If you really wanna know, I have been through hell my 13 years and you know how many times i wanted to suicide. This should be no reason to suicide, just one thing that could be easily changed instead of putting a bullet through your head. Now if you want to continue calling me an idiot I will report you to Youtube and get you kicked off, be my guest. Just enjoy video and stop
Don't tell me it wasn't his father ok? I know what he is going trough. I can relate to his situation. My father also keeps me away from my dreams. I really want to be a dancer and damn, everybody tells me I'm so good. It sounded unrealistic at first but when a got accepted to one of the most popular crews in town, I thought I might have a chance. Then my father made me quit, because he wants me to be a dentist. School is important, but dancing is first place for me .. Fathers can kill dreams !
@SwingDanceBand... There is NEVER a reason to commit suicide, he could've continued his life and when he's 18 he could've done acting because he's old enough to do whatever he wants
@Szlosekisdaboss13 You're an idiot. Sometimes people see no way out. They spiral down into a state of depression that is so bad that they can't see any way out. It's not really about reasons. Don't chat shit about something you don't understand.
I know a father like this. he had his son's life all planned out for him, and whoa to those who got in the way of his plans. he's blind to the fact his son has any other wants and desires other than what his dad wants. i'm waiting to here of something like this to happen to his son.
Brilliant film. This one scene sets the standard for what a highly involving film should be. Interesting in the cast interviews on the DVD, what Kurtwood Smith says about his character of Neil's father and his relationship with his son "He didn't do this out of maliciousness, he loved this boy....he just went about it all wrong". Basically he thought he knew best for Neil, but Neil chose his own path and ended it, as he couldn't see anyway out? Ethan Hawke was terrific. They all were.
This is why teens need to be encouraged and not crushed. As a teen, with all the craziness and hormones and not all decision-making parts of your brain finished forming until you're 25... it's so easy for some people to make their last decision ever. People need to realize that emotion is not permanent. Depression, anger, sadness... none of them are permanent. Death is. So sad... and it's not just teens either. Sadder still. Life can always and will always change, if you let it.
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niel was gay.... his father stated to sense it.... and tried to push him more towards a "mans role"...in hopes his son would change and come around.... the poor guy killed himself because he was a fuckin faggot and felt like he could never be himself with his father as a shadow.... haha anyway id kill myself too if i was gay
@playherone first off, that is a horrible thing to say, i hope you may never kill yourself or experience a suicide personally. second, there is NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING GAY, not now, not ever, being gay is just like having blue eyes or having a different skin color. third, what you meant to say was "and tried to push him towards a 'manly' profession" NOT "and tried to push him more towards a 'mans role' ". fourth, his father wasn't a mere shadow, his father controlled his life.
@playherone Wow. Did you even understand the movie? Really? If you didn't (and I doubt you did), Watch "V for Vendetta". Maybe that'll teach you a thing or two about life. Damn homophobe.
i didn't even think of that! thank you :) . although he sorta shouted "his barbaric YAWP over the rooftops" at the end of the movie on his desk in my opinion.
@coolnerdie im pretty sure he says "it was his FATHER." referring to the fact that because his father pressured him, Neil felt the only way to escape it was to kill himself. hope this helps.
His father wasn't blind... man. It was poor Neil's weakness. Of course, his father could have been a bit more understanding, especially since Neil was doing great academically.
You have to think from his father's perspective as well. His father loved him and Neil's suicide crushed him as portrayed when he finds Neil's body.
@loner1878 I don't think he meant it like that. But people who consider suicide is a weakness generally have never had a valid reason to want to commit suicide. So, it's hard for them to understand it. Maybe I sound like a freak, but with so many emotions jumping through your body at 17/18, it's not hard to think there's no way out, like someone else also said already. 0
@amdset may you live long and have many daughters. his father only ever cared about what neil did if it applied to him. why do you think the flying desk set (and what some people consider young love) happened? neil may have been todd's muse, but that's NO reason for villifying your own son, as the end "o captain, my captain" scene proves.
@amdset though I agree that it is necessary to look at the father's side as well, and that it is made obvious that he loved Neil very much when he finds his body...i have to also agree that his father was blind, Neil knew that if he asked his father to be in the play he would say no...no matter how much he tried to convince him...so he had to do it himself, it was not an attempt to "make a liar out of him" as his dad assumes earlier in the movie, he just needed to prove it to his dad.
@amdset IT is not a weakness to be a teenager. But after years of taking emotional abuse from a ruthless, unforgiving parent, a teenager can commit suicide. Suicide rates are highest among teenagers and seniors. The weak one is the adult who could not see what his lack of compassion was doing to one so impressionable.
@amdset as much as neil's father loved him, i know what he went through. it's hard to keep going on when the ones whom you want to impress most tear down your dreams. if i had the guts to actually kill myself i would have done so; the only thing that has kept me going is knowing that one day i can do what i want and have the chance to be happy. neil's dad wasn't blind, but he was ignorant. any parent would be able to see when their child is happiest, and neil's dad chose to ignore it.
@amdset i don't think he understood how much acting meant to neil, and that's the result of miscommunication; years and years of obedience that is difficult to break. at 17, teens need to be able to think independently. if we fail, we fail; the true test comes from how we jump back from those failures and continue to move on.
@amdset Have you ever felt truly suicidal? It's not weakness, the unraveling of all the lies we tell ourselves and the pain after all the means of coping have disappeared. You are faced with cold hard reality, my dreams will not come true, I might be miserable for the rest my life. To feel suicidal is not a emotion or impulse as is seemly implied, it is a calculated decision that death is a preferable alternative a life of despair. Would you rather die by fire or a bullet?
Oh God i cried SO hard when i saw these scenes ...
thanks for uploading it !
This movie kinda rocked my world if i can say... Ethan Hawke really is a great actor, and i can relate so much to Todd... Plus, he's just adorable, so cute -3 !
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AnimalLover101195 1 month ago
I love this movie. We watch it every New Years Eve. This scene is one of my favorite. Ethan Hawke did a great job in it.
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@thelethalchicken727 I'm glad you have expressed your opinion about me but I don't think everyone else cares about it, end of discussion and leave me alone and let me and everybody else enjoy the darn video... please.
Szlosekisdaboss13 2 months ago
What is the purpose of shoving snow in todd's mouth?
speedstacker51 2 months ago 8
@speedstacker51 I still ask that question now ...
looveliza 2 months ago
saw this video today was very sad
Alexhallkiller 2 months ago
@LukeGriffths121 You know what I'm 13 and you have no right to talk to someone that you have no clue is an idiot or not. If you really wanna know, I have been through hell my 13 years and you know how many times i wanted to suicide. This should be no reason to suicide, just one thing that could be easily changed instead of putting a bullet through your head. Now if you want to continue calling me an idiot I will report you to Youtube and get you kicked off, be my guest. Just enjoy video and stop
Szlosekisdaboss13 2 months ago
@Szlosekisdaboss13 youre a douchebag
thelethalchicken727 2 months ago
Don't tell me it wasn't his father ok? I know what he is going trough. I can relate to his situation. My father also keeps me away from my dreams. I really want to be a dancer and damn, everybody tells me I'm so good. It sounded unrealistic at first but when a got accepted to one of the most popular crews in town, I thought I might have a chance. Then my father made me quit, because he wants me to be a dentist. School is important, but dancing is first place for me .. Fathers can kill dreams !
Loraiin3105 2 months ago
Ethan Hawke is definitely one of my favorite actors! His performance in this movie is stunning! Woot woot!
starryeyedwr1ter44 2 months ago
dramatic
holanda957 2 months ago
@SwingDanceBand... There is NEVER a reason to commit suicide, he could've continued his life and when he's 18 he could've done acting because he's old enough to do whatever he wants
Szlosekisdaboss13 3 months ago
@Szlosekisdaboss13 You're an idiot. Sometimes people see no way out. They spiral down into a state of depression that is so bad that they can't see any way out. It's not really about reasons. Don't chat shit about something you don't understand.
LukeGriffths121 2 months ago
Good lord this movie makes me cry... :'(
Szlosekisdaboss13 3 months ago
Lol just watch some House and hes alive again. Kind of reminds you its just a movie, albiet a philosophical one
hat1324 3 months ago
i can see both sides of the story, neil did disrespect his faher, but neil would have to grow up some time and make hius own decisions
13craj 4 months ago
I know a father like this. he had his son's life all planned out for him, and whoa to those who got in the way of his plans. he's blind to the fact his son has any other wants and desires other than what his dad wants. i'm waiting to here of something like this to happen to his son.
godzilloid 4 months ago
@godzilloid arn't you gonna atleast try and stop this
xavierbot 3 months ago
@xavierbot Tried. He threatened me with leagal action and had a restraining order taken out against me.
godzilloid 3 months ago
i love this movie and its so imotional at the end
zultengirl 4 months ago
Brilliant film. This one scene sets the standard for what a highly involving film should be. Interesting in the cast interviews on the DVD, what Kurtwood Smith says about his character of Neil's father and his relationship with his son "He didn't do this out of maliciousness, he loved this boy....he just went about it all wrong". Basically he thought he knew best for Neil, but Neil chose his own path and ended it, as he couldn't see anyway out? Ethan Hawke was terrific. They all were.
Fenner1976 6 months ago
This is why teens need to be encouraged and not crushed. As a teen, with all the craziness and hormones and not all decision-making parts of your brain finished forming until you're 25... it's so easy for some people to make their last decision ever. People need to realize that emotion is not permanent. Depression, anger, sadness... none of them are permanent. Death is. So sad... and it's not just teens either. Sadder still. Life can always and will always change, if you let it.
Emirichan317 8 months ago 7
i love this movie, and i cried so hard. hes father was stupid. end of story.
tricosis100 8 months ago
who the fuck cares?? its a shit movie
TheDyldo101 9 months ago
@TheDyldo101 gtfo
mattnumber13 9 months ago
That really got to me
maeflower522 9 months ago
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niel was gay.... his father stated to sense it.... and tried to push him more towards a "mans role"...in hopes his son would change and come around.... the poor guy killed himself because he was a fuckin faggot and felt like he could never be himself with his father as a shadow.... haha anyway id kill myself too if i was gay
playherone 10 months ago
@playherone first off, that is a horrible thing to say, i hope you may never kill yourself or experience a suicide personally. second, there is NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING GAY, not now, not ever, being gay is just like having blue eyes or having a different skin color. third, what you meant to say was "and tried to push him towards a 'manly' profession" NOT "and tried to push him more towards a 'mans role' ". fourth, his father wasn't a mere shadow, his father controlled his life.
coolnerdie 10 months ago 2
@playherone Wow. Did you even understand the movie? Really? If you didn't (and I doubt you did), Watch "V for Vendetta". Maybe that'll teach you a thing or two about life. Damn homophobe.
0GreenDayAllTheWay0 10 months ago
@playherone can you kill yourself anyway? We need less people like you on the planet.
LukeGriffths121 9 months ago
@playherone skip the if
mattnumber13 9 months ago
@playherone Ugh. I really do hate homophobes. Are you repressing your own feelings? Or are you really just that close-minded?
riniel17 4 months ago
what does Todd scream at 1:50?
if anyone knows i would appreciate it
coolnerdie 10 months ago
@coolnerdie perhaps it was a barbaric YAWP?
jlkjoyful 10 months ago
@jlkjoyful
i didn't even think of that! thank you :) . although he sorta shouted "his barbaric YAWP over the rooftops" at the end of the movie on his desk in my opinion.
coolnerdie 10 months ago
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@coolnerdie perhaps it was a barbaric YAWP?
jlkjoyful 10 months ago
@coolnerdie I think its DAMN
maeflower522 9 months ago
@coolnerdie im pretty sure he says "it was his FATHER." referring to the fact that because his father pressured him, Neil felt the only way to escape it was to kill himself. hope this helps.
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riniel17 4 months ago
@coolnerdie as far as i can tell he was just shouting Neil!
naruhinaaddict1000 7 months ago
:C this is my favorite movie..
girfan45676 10 months ago
His father wasn't blind... man. It was poor Neil's weakness. Of course, his father could have been a bit more understanding, especially since Neil was doing great academically.
You have to think from his father's perspective as well. His father loved him and Neil's suicide crushed him as portrayed when he finds Neil's body.
amdset 11 months ago 14
@amdset
Neil's dreams were a "weakness?"
loner1878 10 months ago
@loner1878 I don't think he meant it like that. But people who consider suicide is a weakness generally have never had a valid reason to want to commit suicide. So, it's hard for them to understand it. Maybe I sound like a freak, but with so many emotions jumping through your body at 17/18, it's not hard to think there's no way out, like someone else also said already. 0
riniel17 4 months ago
@amdset may you live long and have many daughters. his father only ever cared about what neil did if it applied to him. why do you think the flying desk set (and what some people consider young love) happened? neil may have been todd's muse, but that's NO reason for villifying your own son, as the end "o captain, my captain" scene proves.
mattnumber13 9 months ago
@amdset no, red would still have stuck a foot up his ass if he thought it would make a man outta him.
mattnumber13 9 months ago
@amdset though I agree that it is necessary to look at the father's side as well, and that it is made obvious that he loved Neil very much when he finds his body...i have to also agree that his father was blind, Neil knew that if he asked his father to be in the play he would say no...no matter how much he tried to convince him...so he had to do it himself, it was not an attempt to "make a liar out of him" as his dad assumes earlier in the movie, he just needed to prove it to his dad.
naruhinaaddict1000 7 months ago
@amdset IT is not a weakness to be a teenager. But after years of taking emotional abuse from a ruthless, unforgiving parent, a teenager can commit suicide. Suicide rates are highest among teenagers and seniors. The weak one is the adult who could not see what his lack of compassion was doing to one so impressionable.
SwingDanceBand 4 months ago
@SwingDanceBand "Abuse" is a strong word. Neil's father was just strict and overbearing.
catholicgamer99 3 months ago
@amdset as much as neil's father loved him, i know what he went through. it's hard to keep going on when the ones whom you want to impress most tear down your dreams. if i had the guts to actually kill myself i would have done so; the only thing that has kept me going is knowing that one day i can do what i want and have the chance to be happy. neil's dad wasn't blind, but he was ignorant. any parent would be able to see when their child is happiest, and neil's dad chose to ignore it.
BubblyViolin11 1 month ago
@amdset i don't think he understood how much acting meant to neil, and that's the result of miscommunication; years and years of obedience that is difficult to break. at 17, teens need to be able to think independently. if we fail, we fail; the true test comes from how we jump back from those failures and continue to move on.
BubblyViolin11 1 month ago
@amdset Have you ever felt truly suicidal? It's not weakness, the unraveling of all the lies we tell ourselves and the pain after all the means of coping have disappeared. You are faced with cold hard reality, my dreams will not come true, I might be miserable for the rest my life. To feel suicidal is not a emotion or impulse as is seemly implied, it is a calculated decision that death is a preferable alternative a life of despair. Would you rather die by fire or a bullet?
iMaDeMoN2012 1 month ago
Why was his father so blind.... X(
G33k0fL1f3 11 months ago
This scene made me cry.
Fendertastic 1 year ago
a tear to my eye...everytime
101viper111 1 year ago
Oh God i cried SO hard when i saw these scenes ...
thanks for uploading it !
This movie kinda rocked my world if i can say... Ethan Hawke really is a great actor, and i can relate so much to Todd... Plus, he's just adorable, so cute -3 !
Rococofairy 1 year ago 32