this was my first song by john cale, and since i heard it the first time, it never went out of my head ... its so absolutely perfect, i cant believe it.
I can't give my source but he is in the industry. I feel for John Cale or anyone who struggles with that dragon, but Jesus -- be nice to other people mate. I respect Cale's intense abilities, he is a great for sure... Wasn't he a child prodigy who studied piano under Leonard Bernstein? Cale is brilliant but so, apparently, is his demon. "I wish somebody would tell me where to draw the line..." -Cale This song is particularly poignant to have this conversation isn't it?
I love his music too, but he is a vicious alcoholic who is terribly abusive to his wife and for that I can hardly listen to him anymore. It is a shame... I feel sorry for people close to him.
from the first moment i saw John Cale and the shape of his eyes, and the colour of his eyes and the look in his eyes..... not to mention the profound beauty of his resonating voice...... i found myself in love, absolutely
Yes, agree ! >Vine< is my favourite JC song, but the "original version" is much better ! It's the rhythm, it drives, pushes, beats the listener along, just like in a Shakespeare tragedy !
This 1992 is great, even brilliant, but compared to the "original" we must be disappointed ! Sorry, great John !
instead of being dissappointed by a different version, we should all be grateful.
John Cale always rearranges his songs so it dosen´t become boring and repeatative like with most musicians. I´d rather have a different version which I might like a little less instead of the same old song over and over again. That´s why he´s always worth watching live.
Check out the different versions of him doing Waiting For The Man, Heartbreak Hotel or Streets Of Laredo.
Great song, lovely textures and his version of Heartbreak Hotel is one of my fave performances ever.
But, as a drummer, I'm wounded by his comments about drumming at the start. John, you've forsaken us! We don't *have* to play backbeat ... drum kits can have lots of cool colours.
Sorry about the digression, I just had to speak up. Please resume normal service ...
@musemeduse No, you're not crazy. Cale is a genius! A very over-looked genius! I'm tired of everyone mentioning Lou Reed in the same breath as Cale. There is no comparison! Cale's song-writing as well as his interpreptation of other's works expresses a sense of Humanity that makes one glad to be alive!
Cale made the Velvets sound and Nico´s Marble Index the first ever Goth Lp, recorded proto Industrial music (JC:New York In The 1960´s) and produced all those milestone lp´s leading up to Punk. He should therefore be hailed as the godfather of Alternative music! But in this shitty world, where the likes of Goldman & Sachs rule, true character and credibillity count for nothing. So it seems pretty obvious he is constantly overlooked. Remember Van Gogh? But maybe someday ...
@ForARide While Cale is marvelous, and certainly instrumental in Nico's first albums, he was taking full orders from Nico on Marble Index, after he - in her view - bungled t he Chelsea Girls LP. So he can't take credit for the sound of that album.
@justnicknet Cale´s only part towards Chelsea Girls was to write Winter Song, Little Sister (Cale, Reed) and It was A Pleasure Then (Cale,Reed, Morrison). The LP was produced by Tom Wilson, that´s why Nico wanted Cale for the Marble Index. They recorded Nico´s Harmonium and voice first, then Cale would add the arrangements, which he did by himself, and when he presented the result to Nico she burst out into tears, saying it was wonderful. There were no orders from Nico on Cale´s musical output.
Amazing. Watched this at the time and was just dazzled. Question, John Cale-ites: according to Wikipedia (aka "The Book Of Lies", granted), Cale didn't write the lyrics to this. Is this correct? I could go and dig out my Artificial Intelligence (dreadful album, btw) bu I'm a broken hip following a rollerskating injury so can't.
that one line says so much, you can just imagine him waking up with a mean hangover, next to somebody he doesnt recognize, dirty clothes, empty bottles and full ashtrays everywhere, totally broke, and then thinking about his mother...
if you enjoy this you should try his live cd Fragments of a Rainy Season. otherwise see velvet underground. most of his diverse solowerk is astonishing. go for it!
Went with Paris 1919 (which came in the mail today) and the Island compilation, like I did with Waits and based on the recommendations I received here. Thanks for your responses, fantastic to hear from people who care so much about their music. Best wishes.
His best solo record probably is "Music for a new society", but a new listener should maybe start with "Paris 1919". If you like these two, look for "Fear", "Vintage Violence" and "Fragments of a Rainy Season". If you enjoy these, get'em all!
Beautiful string arrangement - I wonder if Cale did it himself? Ought to get a proper release - why not a whole album of Cale songs, vocals, piano and strings?
He had studied classical music and compossition in London in the early 60´ies and was then awarded a Leonhard Bernstein scholarship to go to the U.S. and work with John Cage.
I'm not saying its plagiarized just that there are a fair amount of songs with that tune, not just that one Joe Satriani, ever heard Foreigner Suite by Cat Stevens or many other songs that have a similar Melody. Just because Nickleback, Seether etc. sound the same, doesn't mean they copy each other.
I meant Rock'n'Roll as the wider musical art-form, "the context", in which John Cale works, not the style of this particular song... from The Velvets' White Light/White Heat to his own solo stuff, he does Rock'n'Roll (Fairweather Friend on Vintage Violence, Macbeth on Paris 1919, his cover of Chuck Berry's Memphis, etc..) Cale might come from the avantgarde & his output is very varied, but he's definitely a Rock'n'Roll musician, isn't he? 'Dirtyass Rock'n'Roll' as he himself sings...
Lol! I think this is one of his best songs ever... very original, distinctive, deep, meaningful, with pathos, catchy, memorable, etc.. everything that the best Rock'n'Roll (or Rock music) can achieve...any song that mentions William Burroughs can't be too bad! I mean not only the song in general, but this particular version (in my modest opinion better than the original studio one... from Caribbean Sunset maybe?) It also has a touch, the feel of classical music, naturally... Cheers!
Wow.....so in love with this great song.....man!.... how could it be any better
theekrusher 8 hours ago
amazing song, perfect.
dallexandro 1 month ago
Heh, what he said about drummers seems to have changed recently, he's had Michael Jerome in his band for a few years now.
Sakhalinskii 2 months ago
This song is as close to perfection as you can get and still technically be human.
Caligulita 2 months ago 2
He is so good you might call him John Cake.
heintron 3 months ago
I like john Cale
Willburys 4 months ago
this was my first song by john cale, and since i heard it the first time, it never went out of my head ... its so absolutely perfect, i cant believe it.
dopeythebarbarian 5 months ago
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WyvernRuiner 6 months ago
i listen to this nearly everyday. it's addictive
linorf 6 months ago
wow. this is perfection
natalik 6 months ago 3
divine!
linorf 6 months ago 3
God, This is so great! John Cale always creates wonderful creative work did he arrange the strings? Thanks! John Cale.
robertlloydsite 7 months ago
I can't give my source but he is in the industry. I feel for John Cale or anyone who struggles with that dragon, but Jesus -- be nice to other people mate. I respect Cale's intense abilities, he is a great for sure... Wasn't he a child prodigy who studied piano under Leonard Bernstein? Cale is brilliant but so, apparently, is his demon. "I wish somebody would tell me where to draw the line..." -Cale This song is particularly poignant to have this conversation isn't it?
jordan3222002 8 months ago
I love his music too, but he is a vicious alcoholic who is terribly abusive to his wife and for that I can hardly listen to him anymore. It is a shame... I feel sorry for people close to him.
jordan3222002 9 months ago
@jordan3222002 He´s been of alcohol and drugs since the birth of his daughter in the late eighties!
So what´s your sorce?
ForARide 8 months ago
from the first moment i saw John Cale and the shape of his eyes, and the colour of his eyes and the look in his eyes..... not to mention the profound beauty of his resonating voice...... i found myself in love, absolutely
Svetlahna 9 months ago
wait i want to hear Television play too!
easytoremember246 1 year ago
I remember seeing him in the 80s. Wow.
But disliked this version of this great and normally very sad song.
IJustHitTheFan 1 year ago
@IJustHitTheFan
Yes, agree ! >Vine< is my favourite JC song, but the "original version" is much better ! It's the rhythm, it drives, pushes, beats the listener along, just like in a Shakespeare tragedy !
This 1992 is great, even brilliant, but compared to the "original" we must be disappointed ! Sorry, great John !
michaelvoland54 8 months ago
@michaelvoland54
instead of being dissappointed by a different version, we should all be grateful.
John Cale always rearranges his songs so it dosen´t become boring and repeatative like with most musicians. I´d rather have a different version which I might like a little less instead of the same old song over and over again. That´s why he´s always worth watching live.
Check out the different versions of him doing Waiting For The Man, Heartbreak Hotel or Streets Of Laredo.
I´d say pretty amazing.
ForARide 7 months ago 2
Damn, writing a song for my metal band and thought this would be a great title. I guess great minds think alike.
DannyBsnacks 1 year ago
Great song, lovely textures and his version of Heartbreak Hotel is one of my fave performances ever.
But, as a drummer, I'm wounded by his comments about drumming at the start. John, you've forsaken us! We don't *have* to play backbeat ... drum kits can have lots of cool colours.
Sorry about the digression, I just had to speak up. Please resume normal service ...
AlmostEthical 1 year ago
6 dislikes......how can u douch bags not like this? honestly its good music just nice over all sound and good music
brakoify 1 year ago
Am I the only one who thinks that he's strangely beautiful, besides being a genius? Maybe I'm crazy.
musemeduse 1 year ago 2
@musemeduse No, you're not crazy. Cale is a genius! A very over-looked genius! I'm tired of everyone mentioning Lou Reed in the same breath as Cale. There is no comparison! Cale's song-writing as well as his interpreptation of other's works expresses a sense of Humanity that makes one glad to be alive!
comercuuy 1 year ago 2
@comercuuy spot on!
Cale made the Velvets sound and Nico´s Marble Index the first ever Goth Lp, recorded proto Industrial music (JC:New York In The 1960´s) and produced all those milestone lp´s leading up to Punk. He should therefore be hailed as the godfather of Alternative music! But in this shitty world, where the likes of Goldman & Sachs rule, true character and credibillity count for nothing. So it seems pretty obvious he is constantly overlooked. Remember Van Gogh? But maybe someday ...
ForARide 1 year ago
@ForARide While Cale is marvelous, and certainly instrumental in Nico's first albums, he was taking full orders from Nico on Marble Index, after he - in her view - bungled t he Chelsea Girls LP. So he can't take credit for the sound of that album.
justnicknet 1 year ago
@justnicknet Cale´s only part towards Chelsea Girls was to write Winter Song, Little Sister (Cale, Reed) and It was A Pleasure Then (Cale,Reed, Morrison). The LP was produced by Tom Wilson, that´s why Nico wanted Cale for the Marble Index. They recorded Nico´s Harmonium and voice first, then Cale would add the arrangements, which he did by himself, and when he presented the result to Nico she burst out into tears, saying it was wonderful. There were no orders from Nico on Cale´s musical output.
ForARide 1 year ago
Exquisite- a life story like Rimbaud, and viola could only come from John Cale!
pratwurst 1 year ago
Fantastic version of great song, tnx for posting :-)
elstrangefruit 1 year ago
Amazing. Watched this at the time and was just dazzled. Question, John Cale-ites: according to Wikipedia (aka "The Book Of Lies", granted), Cale didn't write the lyrics to this. Is this correct? I could go and dig out my Artificial Intelligence (dreadful album, btw) bu I'm a broken hip following a rollerskating injury so can't.
jared50505050 1 year ago
ein wirklich schönes lied
TheMaxxim000 1 year ago
the real genius of VELVET UNDERGROUND
amsongonfia 1 year ago 4
@amsongonfia They had at least four geniuses in there.
(OK, twelve if they say so themselves.)
sternumagnum 1 year ago
@sternumagnum the characteristic sound of the Velvet forged Cale, Lou Reed without him has not been so Underground, Lou Reed though remains a big ..
amsongonfia 1 year ago
Incredible
Hypermammal 1 year ago 2
This is a fantastic musician. Bravo!!!!
AnastasioFranco 1 year ago 3
i think he sings this song better in this vid then the other ones.
ktmlange 2 years ago
Total Class, beautiful string quartet. Thank you for the upload
DeanMeredithMusic 2 years ago 2
There's nothing shallow about John Cale.
grainofsandfan 2 years ago 4
But I was thinking about my mother ....
that one line says so much, you can just imagine him waking up with a mean hangover, next to somebody he doesnt recognize, dirty clothes, empty bottles and full ashtrays everywhere, totally broke, and then thinking about his mother...
NicoDraak74 2 years ago 22
The Island Years is Great!!! Loving this little journey you guys have shared.
blakedawg76 2 years ago 6
What a marvellous rendition of one of his great masterpieces
seviwesuohetarepsed 2 years ago
This is great!
Just discovering this fella for myself tonight. You guys help me out, where does a newbie go first when listening to Cale?
This is great!
blakedawg76 2 years ago 4
Yes, great!
SadLisa777 2 years ago
exuberant, yes? :-)
blakedawg76 2 years ago
Sure, blakedawg76!
SadLisa777 2 years ago
if you enjoy this you should try his live cd Fragments of a Rainy Season. otherwise see velvet underground. most of his diverse solowerk is astonishing. go for it!
lutheringram 2 years ago 4
I have Fragments and it´s the most great thing I ever heard from him!
SadLisa777 2 years ago
Went with Paris 1919 (which came in the mail today) and the Island compilation, like I did with Waits and based on the recommendations I received here. Thanks for your responses, fantastic to hear from people who care so much about their music. Best wishes.
blakedawg76 2 years ago
Paris 1919 is a pretty good place to start.
gabrieldix64 2 years ago 2
Hey thanks, it came in the mail today, Island Years is on the way too.
blakedawg76 2 years ago
I'd say The Island Years, which is basically a collection of 3 of his best albums!
JasonBNYC 2 years ago
Went with this and Paris 1919. There were several recommendations for that one and Tom Waits' Island Years is one of my all time faves.
blakedawg76 2 years ago
His best solo record probably is "Music for a new society", but a new listener should maybe start with "Paris 1919". If you like these two, look for "Fear", "Vintage Violence" and "Fragments of a Rainy Season". If you enjoy these, get'em all!
rrte2 2 years ago
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hvitkanin 2 years ago
Ask SadLisa...:)
louiseduvee 2 years ago
Cale forever!
SadLisa777 2 years ago
Beautiful string arrangement - I wonder if Cale did it himself? Ought to get a proper release - why not a whole album of Cale songs, vocals, piano and strings?
hardtimesincountry 2 years ago 2
Of course he bloody well did!
He had studied classical music and compossition in London in the early 60´ies and was then awarded a Leonhard Bernstein scholarship to go to the U.S. and work with John Cage.
ForARide 2 years ago 3
John is an absolute genius with music, easily one of the best musicians of his generation! Bloody fantastic!
astralleviathan 2 years ago 8
really like this
deutscherfootballfan 2 years ago 2
love this version
xxpiggystardustxx 2 years ago 2
oh, this is brilliant!I just love Cale's voice on this show, and strings blending in here even better than in Hallelujah
esterisko 3 years ago 5
amazing
gilmar112 3 years ago 2
one of wales greatest musicians
xxpiggystardustxx 3 years ago 8
i like very much this performance
excellent..poetry..etc
bravo !!
elianikol63 3 years ago 3
is it just me or is there some kind of similarity between this song and coldplay's "viva la vida"?
machishy 3 years ago 4
i feel it to.
ohhDeerLordd 3 years ago 2
I think there are a lot of songs that have a pretty big similarity to "viva la vida"
eaterHP 2 years ago
well, i don't think so. but write that under a coldplay video. will be great fun.
TheMetro28 2 years ago
eaterHP is little crazy, I think...
SadLisa777 2 years ago
I'm not saying its plagiarized just that there are a fair amount of songs with that tune, not just that one Joe Satriani, ever heard Foreigner Suite by Cat Stevens or many other songs that have a similar Melody. Just because Nickleback, Seether etc. sound the same, doesn't mean they copy each other.
eaterHP 2 years ago
Why the hell are we talking about this shit anyway, John Cale is beyond all this.
eaterHP 2 years ago 10
Yes I UNDERSTAND...!
SadLisa777 2 years ago
No, bands like that fit into trendy narratives, or did when they came out. Nickeback and Seether I mean of course.
trollfinger 1 year ago
genial ! supeeeer !
dementux 3 years ago
GREAT!!
01011101010001111010 3 years ago
beautiful song
basic51 3 years ago 4
I love cellos and all but i think i like the other version that's on youtube just a little more than this one.
GovmentTookMaBaby 3 years ago
je l'aime toujours cette voix veloutée et grave j'aimerai écouter ses chansons sur la guerre des malouines, des choeurs magnifiques.
Peter Hammil Lou Reed Battiato....;
MuhaO 3 years ago
Wonderful song from a real genius. This is Rock'n'Roll as Art with a capitol A.
kidcalabria 4 years ago 31
@kidcalabria i wouldnt exactly say its rock'n roll lol but it is epicly great
brakoify 1 year ago
@brakoify
I meant Rock'n'Roll as the wider musical art-form, "the context", in which John Cale works, not the style of this particular song... from The Velvets' White Light/White Heat to his own solo stuff, he does Rock'n'Roll (Fairweather Friend on Vintage Violence, Macbeth on Paris 1919, his cover of Chuck Berry's Memphis, etc..) Cale might come from the avantgarde & his output is very varied, but he's definitely a Rock'n'Roll musician, isn't he? 'Dirtyass Rock'n'Roll' as he himself sings...
kidcalabria 1 year ago
@kidcalabria lol i know who cale is i thought u were refering to THIS particular song/version being played lololol
brakoify 1 year ago
@brakoify
Lol! I think this is one of his best songs ever... very original, distinctive, deep, meaningful, with pathos, catchy, memorable, etc.. everything that the best Rock'n'Roll (or Rock music) can achieve...any song that mentions William Burroughs can't be too bad! I mean not only the song in general, but this particular version (in my modest opinion better than the original studio one... from Caribbean Sunset maybe?) It also has a touch, the feel of classical music, naturally... Cheers!
kidcalabria 1 year ago
me like too. Cool, got some of his stuff from 20 yrs ago, haven't checked it out in a while.
etuberalism 4 years ago
Check out "dying on the vine" posted by mooseontheloose to see the stunning guitar solo played by ollie halsall to this song
rodgerguitar 4 years ago
Casa like it
casamusic 4 years ago
Very beautiful
soulmanjoeb 4 years ago 6
sa cet la vrai music
shfinx 4 years ago
straordinario. tanx a lot for this moment of pure poetry...
musicboxbook 4 years ago
Genius! Thank you for this.
meddlingkids 4 years ago 2
I remember watching this at the time. Not long befor I saw him with the VU at their first reunion concert.
KenboD67 4 years ago
soooo perfect and beautiful :-)x
ashleighfleur 4 years ago 2
One of the most beautiful john Cale'song.
No studio version of it with string quartet...a great lack for every fan.
DeepFrance 4 years ago
Spectacular! He's occasionally brilliant, isn't he?
TheFeloniusMonk 4 years ago