The free market owns. Commies need to take a lesson from housing projects. Giving stuff away, even when they are compelled to work, makes them neither happy nor productive. What then, is the point? That being said, jobs getting automated and "over"production in a starving world become bad things in the free market system. Students are forced to choose between what they want to study and what is practical. There must be something done but I don't know what.
Wealth is neither good nor bad. It is simply wealth. The good that can come from wealth comes from how it is used. Our problem today comes a rapacious form of capitalism in which the ends always justifiy the means. Transpose the word sociopath for capitalist and hypocrite for philanthropist. I give todays capitalism an "A" for avarice and and an "F" for ethics- which explains the state of a collapsing world economy today. One can only mock God so long.
youre equating wealth with progress. the problem with wealth isnt wealth itself, its the distribution of it and the pursuance of it. exchanging things value for value results in equal value, or equal wealth. taking things by force results in more wealth. if wealth is good you presumably would want more of it, and would advocate force.
religious tolerance has spread to the wrest of the world? what???
@rab200 As ill distributed as wealth might appear to be, in the capitalist system, the poor are getting richer with the rich. The comforts made by and for the rich benefit others (indoor plumbing, satelites ect.) Plunder doesn't create wealth, it just moves it. Mutually beneficial trades build produce more wealth in the long run. It gives people incentive to mine, craft, and such. Religious tolerence is present where wealth is (North America, the Pacific Rim, Western Europe, and Austrailia)
Can you define a free market? Do any really exist in a capitalist system where more than 60% of stock traded on the NYSE is owned or controlled by less than 2% of the American population (old stats from Harper's Index).
The benefits you place at the base of wealth have more to do with the development of secular humanism and technological developments. Antibiotics might just have well been developed to avoid human suffering. There really are other motives than greed.
@kassandrasduplex antibiotics, indoor plumbing, and such are commonplace because people could afford these things, funding the research. As ill distributed as wealth might appear to be, in the capitalist system, the poor are getting richer with the rich. Even a relativly poor American lives better than the adverage Cuban, Vietmeneese, North Korean, or Chineese citizen.
I would prefer an international gold standard, similar to what had existed prior to the mid-20th century. While this would still allow for multiple national currencies, all of those currencies would be pegged to gold and redeemable for gold. There could also be private competing currencies denominated in terms of gold. But gold, on a free market, has shown to emerge as the underlying standard for all currencies.
Another value of wealth is it generates luxury and leisure time -- without which life is hardly worth living. Pretty much all the sweetness and loftiness of life is found in this "downtime." A life of pure work or a life where one struggles for mere survival essentially reduces the individual, and his invaluable existence, to the level of an animal.
You're not really human or even alive unless you have a bit of hard cash in your pocket! ;-)
Sure wealth can make a society more efficient and healthy, but it seems like you must be deliberately ignoring the greed and envy that are often interwoven with the production of wealth (ex. blood diamonds). There will always be some who are wealthier than others. So, it can and is often used as means of division. Is division good for humanity? Wealth would be good if it was dispersed evenly, but I don't see that happening in this world.
Why not go all the way? Make people 100% the same. Then envy will not creep in. In fact, let's deprive them of any humanity whatsoever and make them identical clones. People need to learn to accept differences rather than arguing that everyone should be leveled down. For those who want to live like clones, the option is always available.
Lol, sure. No, I just think everyone should have equal opportunity to the resources that are available to us rather than a small number of people hoarding large amounts of wealth while a large number of people must try to survive and often starve to death with little wealth. Clearly, sharing wealth would not require us all to be clones...but it's a cute idea.
its good because i can talk to more people because their can be more people and better technology. lol just 1 thing i love about growing wealth
MirageScience 10 months ago
@MirageScience Indeed.
GStolyarovII 10 months ago
@MirageScience suck my dick dylan
MrShroomtits 9 months ago
Rich is better then being poor and the middle class is confused on what they want
sevenmary311 1 year ago
The free market owns. Commies need to take a lesson from housing projects. Giving stuff away, even when they are compelled to work, makes them neither happy nor productive. What then, is the point? That being said, jobs getting automated and "over"production in a starving world become bad things in the free market system. Students are forced to choose between what they want to study and what is practical. There must be something done but I don't know what.
Coquipirate 1 year ago
Pilgrim812 2 years ago
youre equating wealth with progress. the problem with wealth isnt wealth itself, its the distribution of it and the pursuance of it. exchanging things value for value results in equal value, or equal wealth. taking things by force results in more wealth. if wealth is good you presumably would want more of it, and would advocate force.
religious tolerance has spread to the wrest of the world? what???
rab200 3 years ago
@rab200 As ill distributed as wealth might appear to be, in the capitalist system, the poor are getting richer with the rich. The comforts made by and for the rich benefit others (indoor plumbing, satelites ect.) Plunder doesn't create wealth, it just moves it. Mutually beneficial trades build produce more wealth in the long run. It gives people incentive to mine, craft, and such. Religious tolerence is present where wealth is (North America, the Pacific Rim, Western Europe, and Austrailia)
Coquipirate 1 year ago
Very informative. Thank you so much for sharing
nishuee 3 years ago
Can you define a free market? Do any really exist in a capitalist system where more than 60% of stock traded on the NYSE is owned or controlled by less than 2% of the American population (old stats from Harper's Index).
The benefits you place at the base of wealth have more to do with the development of secular humanism and technological developments. Antibiotics might just have well been developed to avoid human suffering. There really are other motives than greed.
kassandrasduplex 3 years ago
@kassandrasduplex antibiotics, indoor plumbing, and such are commonplace because people could afford these things, funding the research. As ill distributed as wealth might appear to be, in the capitalist system, the poor are getting richer with the rich. Even a relativly poor American lives better than the adverage Cuban, Vietmeneese, North Korean, or Chineese citizen.
Coquipirate 1 year ago
ron paul could certainly do that for us:)
kevithsilent 3 years ago
with your opinion that wealth brings different cultures together, would you prefer one world currency?
kevithsilent 3 years ago
I would prefer an international gold standard, similar to what had existed prior to the mid-20th century. While this would still allow for multiple national currencies, all of those currencies would be pegged to gold and redeemable for gold. There could also be private competing currencies denominated in terms of gold. But gold, on a free market, has shown to emerge as the underlying standard for all currencies.
GStolyarovII 3 years ago
Another value of wealth is it generates luxury and leisure time -- without which life is hardly worth living. Pretty much all the sweetness and loftiness of life is found in this "downtime." A life of pure work or a life where one struggles for mere survival essentially reduces the individual, and his invaluable existence, to the level of an animal.
You're not really human or even alive unless you have a bit of hard cash in your pocket! ;-)
PureLiberalChallenge 4 years ago
But the rich, the corporations, exploitation, sweatshops... Uhh... Damn the capitalists!!!!!
MatthewLeee 4 years ago
Wait, so people don't fight over money?
Sure wealth can make a society more efficient and healthy, but it seems like you must be deliberately ignoring the greed and envy that are often interwoven with the production of wealth (ex. blood diamonds). There will always be some who are wealthier than others. So, it can and is often used as means of division. Is division good for humanity? Wealth would be good if it was dispersed evenly, but I don't see that happening in this world.
chubbuswubbus 4 years ago
Why not go all the way? Make people 100% the same. Then envy will not creep in. In fact, let's deprive them of any humanity whatsoever and make them identical clones. People need to learn to accept differences rather than arguing that everyone should be leveled down. For those who want to live like clones, the option is always available.
Elhan2005 4 years ago
Lol, sure. No, I just think everyone should have equal opportunity to the resources that are available to us rather than a small number of people hoarding large amounts of wealth while a large number of people must try to survive and often starve to death with little wealth. Clearly, sharing wealth would not require us all to be clones...but it's a cute idea.
chubbuswubbus 4 years ago
clones? cute, your sick.
MatthewLeee 4 years ago
Then again, that's what our government is doing to children today, and most people think its cute.
MatthewLeee 4 years ago
heh did you know that the gdp per capita in 1900 was 5300?
Terilien 4 years ago
Question: is that adjusted for inflation?
Shezmu 4 years ago
yes. its purchsing power.
Terilien 4 years ago
not to call you a lier, but could I see where you got your information from?
Shezmu 4 years ago
look up "what was gdp then". nominal gdp was significantlylower than that of course,
cheers.
Terilien 4 years ago