Lamborghini LP560-4 Gallardo vs Porsche 911 Turbo (997 manual) 50-260 km/h Race 1/4= GTBoard.com

[E46325mod]

R people retarded or something? The 997 turbo has 500hp the lp-560 has 552. The difference is the lamborghini shifts between gears faster than a manual Porsche and its basically the same weight as the Porsche. And btw a Porsche 997 turbo will cost you as much as a Lamborghini gallardo, both around $185,000

[reilly2anto]

nice vids

[mou3adh]

don't forget the 80hp gap between the 2 cars, hope to see at least the Turbo S 530bhp against this LP-560

[dagoebam]

@gustav, when we can see a race between the lp560 and the ferrari 458 italia?

[ghosthunter2006]

put porsche 911 GT3RS. or a turbo S . or atleast put a stock gallardo. these two cars are from the different price range.

[Project4JDM]

i like that black Gallardo if i had money i would buy one sexy headlights and tail lights

[mountainboundwbd]

i wish i had the abillity to do this

[TheBigm999]

at least porsche with its v6 engine could hold with the fastest v10 lambo....

Porsche all the way!!!!!!!!!

[wilkinskid1]

not to be a jerk dude, but the lambo put like 6-8 cars on the porche while spinning the tires and crushing the rev limiter. was there a second race?

[Toxxic88]

The lambo is a beauty, and this is coming from a Porsche lover

[chrisprtube]

it doesnt bother me which ones quicker, i prefer the lamborghini anyway.

[CrodriguezC01]

The M6 is more faster than traditional Gallardo but is not faster than LP560-4 .... Lambo all the way!!!

[bliglum]

the M6 is just a M5 with two doors!!! not even in the lambo's league IMO.

[XoGAM3RoX]

lambo would beat any porsche or bmw n i love beamers n all but v12 says it all

[BrandtNick]

saying this really shows you know NOTHING. What happens when the road starts to turn? Whoopie, bye bye lambo, hell even a normal carrera S says bye bye to this lambo on the track.

[XoGAM3RoX]

ur an idiot kid lambo beat em they werent racing around the whole track obviously

[dlcpereira]

@BrandtNick thats the true :P

[xIfruitloopsIx69]

not porsche carrera GT !!

[wedziss]

lambo hawe beaten the GT2 which is faster than a GT so it would beat that as well...(watch the top gear dragrace between these two)

[Kheops63]

It is a Gallardo so it is a V10.....

[Utubefr3ak89]

porsche PWNED

[darkest26]

Stfu porche fans who says porche is faster cuz this video is proof that the lambo Pwns porches ass up so stfu.

[HalfAsain]

that was manual ahaha

try a tip s youll see 997 wins

[wedziss]

cock u are,LAMBO won and shut up with ur stupid thougths. no matter if its a manual or automatic,this wouldnt make any difference.u porsche fans just cant bear it that the other car won.

[Dimmuborgir6969]

@wedziss Porsche loos like a mouse out on the road.

[Jamzkangster]

@Dimmuborgir6969

A slightly modded Porsche would beat the shit out of this v10 Gallardo .

[RocketNothing]

@Jamzkangster Porsche & Ruf have been modding the 911 for decades, Gallardo has more modding potential. But yeah, for the money, Porsche is better.

[bryn4s]

the reason being that lambo has a slower accel is cuz its heavier than a porsche .. porsche is lighter meaning it can take of faster .. no point on adding a strong engine

[nano404]

This is the LP 560-4. The LP 560-4 can do 0-100 km/h in 3.7seconds (3.2 according to testing by Road and Track).... try again.

[Eandeavour]

Look at BMW M6 vs. Lambo Gallardo. BMW M 6 wins. Than you look at Porsche 911 Turbo vs. BMW M6. You will see that the Porsche is much faster than the BMW and even faster than a fucking Lambo. Porsche 4 ever.

[paikmendez]

there are NO stupid races here. they all compare 2 different automotive standpoints. in this race,lambo takes it by way of more cylinders,horses,faster gear swaps,etc.BUT if you compare apples to oranges you might include the FACT that porsche has and will continue to marvel the world with a flat 6 engine. the turbo, gt2 and gt3 are TRUE road cars that sorta walk the exotic line. try and have a peaceful dinner after handing the lambo over to the valet or leaving it in a parking.

[FreeYourMind911]

stupid race. just a look at characteristic makes clear who would win. 0-100 or 0-200 would be interesting cause Porsche have better traction.

[ray3andree]

PORCHE ROCKS!!

[ManhattanMechanic]

The new LP560 is an EXTREMELY aerodynamic vehicle... not to mention it's carrying 80 more horses than the Porsche and 4 more cylinders...

[sequiaonda78]

lambo for ever.

[Eandeavour]

Lambo sucks

[velkoto]

Pointless run.

[kingkiller62]

i love lamborghini gallardo

[ballinkid909]

250,000 $ vs 130,000 $

[ForJustice007]

What kind of race was that?

911 Turbo vs Gallardo LP560?

They are not from the same class.

Put a GT2 vs LP560 !

[cutelookindoctor]

Wouldnt worry when the 997turbo pdk comes out it will destroy the LP560.

[MarksmanODST]

Why need that? The 997 GT2 already did.... They are match, but think of this, H6 RWD VS V10 AWD....

997 GT2 > LP560-4.... But I just love lambos so for preference LP560-4 for me....

[cutelookindoctor]

Yes me too, we will take one on our hire fleet later on this year. Just that the Porsche is good for kids too. Meaning the new pdk 99 turbo which comes out 2010. Lambo is best looking on the planet i agree.

[sspope]

They raced them in TopGear and Lamborghini beat GT2 so no way the 911 Turbo with PDK is gonna make any difference.

and also don't forget that turbocharged engines have more torque than their NA rivals.

[MarksmanODST]

lol really? Thought Jeremy burned the GT2 time? Looked at Wikipedia and it said the GT2 and LP560 had the same time but didn't rely on wiki that much/...

Yeah while V10 engines have more horses than 6 cylinders

[maverick223]

its true. the time around the track was exactly the same.

[sspope]

That 6 cylinder is turbocharged. Aston Martin V12 DBS produces less power and torquq than 911 GT2 and it's go twice as many.

[BarrackObamah]

weak comment bro.

[sspope]

I've no idea what you're refering to.

[kaffe33]

lambo wins hehe this gallard is nice

[90Lambo]

yea it's true that the lambo has more power but the porsche has more torque the lp560 has 540 n/m the porsche 620 n/m

[xxalmasterxx]

this isn't a fair comparison because the Porsche's gets all its power from its twin turbos and once you reach 50 km/hr they are already spooled up and dont have nearly as much boost ,as if u would start from 0 km

if it was a 0- 100 km comparison they would be pretty even

the lambo only takes advantage at higher speeds 150+km with its larger engine and more cylinders

good video but u shouldnt drag race a turbo engine when its already spooled up and just cruising at 50km

[addii578]

yea i agree with him start at about 20 mhp becuase porshe's engines are not built very well to start off the line

[xxalmasterxx]

well its not that porsches are bad off the start because the porsche turbos 0-100 km time is around 3.6 seconds

its just that once the turbo is spooled up and just spinning with no pressure the porsche losses most of its power

while the lambo just relies on its huge engine

[cutelookindoctor]

PDK 997 turbo will beat the lp560 when it comes out later this year.

[Riskshocker]

we will see

[cutelookindoctor]

You will, but all the lambo will see is the porkers backside. lol

[Riskshocker]

yes, your right :D it would be funny

[pizzelpuss]

i think turbo did well considering it's 80 hp down and the engine is almost half the size of the lambos

[samer07]

i'm interested to see the Gallardo LP560-4 Vs the 599 GTB F1...

[eeeen321]

that would be sweeeet to see f430 scud. and an lp560.... if there isnt one already..

these videos are some of my favorite car videos on the internet...

they always show fair, legit races between cars most people never get the chance to see real speed comparisons.... numbers in magazines can only go so far.

very cool videos.

[m5boarddotcom]

Thank you. Please subscribe and buy the GTboard DVD.

best regards Gustav

[spencer132]

i wonder if these guys are looking for more drivers?

id have a hell of a time doing this stuff

[nnngezz]

Don't listen to them Gustav, these are great videos. Keep them coming! :)

[winekrush]

Actually I was giving him tips to make them better. If a pro driver comes up and gives tips to a novice he is only trying to make him better. He is not saying that he sucks at driving. I work in LA in TV. I also like the videos Gustav makes. He should listen to me if Gustav wants to sell more DVD's and not just get more free subscribers.

[eeeen321]

..."I work in L.A. in TV".............oh wow!!! soooooooo coool!!! lol.....

you sound more like an immature, cocky, self absorbed asshole preaching on youtube than any type of "pro" at anything.

.......awesome videos, very entertaining

[winekrush]

Hi HATER!

[eeeen321]

HI PRO DOUCHE BAG!

[winekrush]

Hello Washington state HATER. You fags up there hate on anybody from California. I already know whats up with you WA Haterz. SAy no more. HAh your game is weak grow up.

[eeeen321]

No hating from my corner, im as open minded and accepting as it gets....

... state to state warfare????? lol... buuuurn!! attack from CA.!!!

you couldn't try to act like a more immature trash talking dork....

turn off BET, look in the mirror and maybe go back to school if you ever finished...

my game is calling out self absorbed, wanna-be know-it-all's attempting to talk trash on youtube for no reason........

get over yourself looser, you have a douche bag attitude.. your game is pathetic

[winekrush]

Look hear you dirty bag of Rubber Dicks, I literally have the credentials to school your "Loser" not "looser" punk ass. I trashed talked where? "Douche bag attitude" towards M5boarddotcom? Where? I offered up a professional Editing/Marketing suggestion. Something you know nothing about...........and yes your a hater. Why else spend so much time contributing nothing to this videothread but a personal attack.

[eeeen321]

......lol.. i wish you had a video cam to post that so we could see the little douche bag child behind the "bag of rubber dicks" shit talking.....

grow up and enjoy sick videos asshole.....

[winekrush]

Just have to have the last word don't you? Later BitchFace..

[eeeen321]

"BitchFace"? ..lol.... How is that even applicable??

You actually do act like a self absorbed, cocky, douche bag asshole..

Those are all relevant assumptions made from looking at your comments.

If that wasn't funny and pathetic enough, your whole argument has been flawed from the start... its been like watching a little child get more and more upset.

these are sick videos and your a cocky, self absorbed, preachy asshole for attempting to critique ANYTHING on youtube, especially the m5b vids

[winekrush]

Yes "BitchFace" because that is what you act like a whiny bitch. You have nothing better to do than start shit online because you need more conflict in your life. And yes I also called you a "Dirty bag of Rubber Dicks". I can critique videos on YT, that's why the 5 star rating and comment section were built into YT. Not a very sharp observer are you? P.S. yes I do have a video camera..Do you have a video camera? Are you looking to YT battle? And for the record I love M5B vids! BitchFace!

[eeeen321]

Yea! You are finally correct and valid on SOMETHING you said..

You do fit in with most of the youtube commenting critics.

Most of the critics on youtube are clueless, cocky little children pretending to be tough boy know-it-all's......way to go, you fit the image spot on so far!

You are the Douche-iest child I've ever had the misfortune to read a comment from...

You SHOULD make some videos so we could all see the preachy douche bag behind all this self absorbed, uneducated critiquing of m5b.

[eeeen321]

.........and "bag of rubber dicks" and "bitchface" is something I would expect to hear from a foreign exchange student screaming... not a relevant insult....

Your as immature as a alevin, get outta here with that elementary garbage boy.

[winekrush]

LOL you should be in comedy... Sorry HomeBoy if you wanna see my footage your going to have to post your shit too. You've been mouthing off way too much about what you think your dumbass knows to get let off. You asked if I had a camera I said yes, Now I ask do you have a camera? How about a YT battle, we will each post video responses to this video. Lets see your game you filthy bag of rubber dicks!!

[eeeen321]

No, I shouldn't be in comedy, I should be in charge of calling out fake people.....

...You want to have a...... "YouTube Battle"???? ..... *sigh* ...wow..

..I don't even feel I need to respond to that statement.... you dug your own hole..

Yea my computer has a camera, why would i need to defend my character??

Your the one who's character and age is in question due to your douche-like, cocky, self absorbed, irrelevant and clueless comments...

"I work in tv LA and this is my pro opinion"

[winekrush]

Hello "PussyMouth". A new day and a new name for you! PussyMouth because with all the Red Sour Stink flowing out of your mouth, it must be your time of the month! lol i am enjoying this! Hit me back Hater I have more names for you! lol

[eeeen321]

...."names"??....... "youtube battles"?? ......BET quotes?? .......wow, smart stuff.

....It's obviously all you are capable of, so i'm not surprised.

Have fun with all that stuff you look forward to on youtube, your "pro tv" carer talking shit about m5b on youtube is about to hit it big time. way to go!... sounds "baller"!

Nothing you have said to anyone in this whole thread has been close to factual, knowledgeable, relevant or mature.

turn off the screens and finish school keyboard warrior

[winekrush]

0:00-2:00 are the most relevant parts of the video. 2:00-3:30 drag on as its just a return drive. Post 3:30 is more of a comparison of the looks of the vehicle. 3:30-5:59 should have been used for another drag with the yellow Gallardo. There are only 2 minutes of action in a 6 minute video. It could have been edited down to 3-4 minutes still allowing time for you to promote yourselves and do coverage of the vehicles while stationary. I work in tv LA and this is my pro opinion. Don't be offended

[m5boarddotcom]

True but I also wanted to show the astetics of the new LP560-4.

[winekrush]

This video needs editing...

[m5boarddotcom]

Why is that?

[Macius92]

cameraman needs to work on his fillming skills

[m5boarddotcom]

Whats wrong?

[SeigeCJ]

Lamborghini got its mojo back!!!!!!! eat this ferrari

[golf1diesel]

i think the ruf turbo r650 would kill it and the 740 hp evo would rape the lambo lp 560

[forsteaua]

740 HP/2 .How can you compare a lambo with an evo? Not only the HP counts to a car

[golf1diesel]

why not compare? yes not just hp,but still 180 hp more matters ;)

[Jauhar]

From what i've read and seen, the only two cars that should be able to hang with the GLP 560 (everything stock) are the 599 GTB Fiorano, and maybe the GT2 (997 if you didn't know). Would like to also see the new SL65 AMG Black. What was that? World economy's bad? Gotta save for a rainy day? Excuses! Excuses!

[maubaratta]

I think you should try with a tiptronic 997tt, i would like to see what happens, besides i know mabe its faster above 200km/h, but try and then we see. I think you have one tiptronic to try, a healthy one whith the sport mode on..

[caracolcek]

the lambo has 80 more horse power.....compare with the new gt2!!!!

both are great cars

[odracirseraoseia1999]

Already done (Top Gear)...

[Christoo92]

Top Gear did a drag race between the LP560 and the GT2, not the LP560.

[odracirseraoseia1999]

What?? Did you read what you wrote? That's what I said: Top Gear already did a drag race between the LP560-4 and the GT2. In this 12th season.

[Christoo92]

haha oops! I didn't see what you were responding to...

which would you have?

[odracirseraoseia1999]

Oh God, no doubt about that: the LP. Looks, dynamics, power, engine sound... All better on the Lambo!

[Christoo92]

it's also easier to drive... Top Gear had a dog drive it:D

[odracirseraoseia1999]

True!

[justshawnsusername]

LP 560-4. it may not be the fastest or the most exotic but its the perfect street machine and is awesome on the track.

[roossoner51]

yeah i saw but a dog was driving the porche gt2

[golf1diesel]

i wonder if lp560 can beat the murcielago 580 hp..

[fx76]

yes it can mate not by a lot but it can..it has around 50bhp more and is made from the same material as the new f60 fighter yet so its much lighter.

[golf1diesel]

the lp doesn t have 50 hp motr than conventional murcielago..it has 20 hp less,but the wight difference is quite big..1300 kg for lp and 1560 kg for murcielago as far as i know

[fx76]

Im talking about the new LP so maybe i didnt make myself clear..Thee only making 50 of them i ment the LP640 reventon. my mistake.

[maubaratta]

TIPTRONIC 997 TURBO ;-)

[modelun12]

my prius can smoke that piece of shit

[m5boarddotcom]

Banned.

[mountjoy23]

Boring, when are you going to start driving on a track ? Why do you think the manufacturers spend so much time and money making there cars handle, anyone can drive in a straight line, no skill required.

[m5boarddotcom]

That is the point: we compare the CARS and not the DRIVERS. Do not comment and see them if you think they are boring.

[mountjoy23]

Fair enough, but you can gain more information from a magazine/e-zine article.

It obvious you have a strong business case and loyal following, but with the depth off vehicles availiable to you there is potential for greater returns.

By establishing a base driver you would still be comparing cars and not drivers.

[m5boarddotcom]

True, then there shuld be two base drivers I beleive?

[maubaratta]

I think you should try with a tiptronic 997tt, i would like to see what happens, besides i know mabe its faster above 200km/h, but try and then we see. I think you have one tiptronic to try, a healthy one whith the sport mode on..

[aatishporsche]

that dude was not a camera man..was more like a lambo man..haha

btw LP-560 560 hp n 911 turbo 480

The GT2 would have been a better match.

[sno9r]

Wow. I didn't expect the difference to be that big!

[DGenerationXTHBK]

Should hav dun 911 turbo veyron enzo and murcialago

[mykulc]

Bet the new ZR-1 Vette would do the same thing to the Gallardo.

[m5boarddotcom]

Please keep the discussion toi the cars featured and not Corvette.

[mykulc]

Ok....I wonder what kind of car would walk the Gallardo and dust the 997? Probably one made in the U.S. w/ a 6.2L Supercharged LS9. Sorry, I couldn't resist. You guys have some outrageous vids!!

[frvrfrf54]

LP560-4 vs 430 Scuderia

[m5boarddotcom]

Got it.

[henrikhallqvist]

hallå gustaf skulle du kuna skicka några bra bilder i stort fömat till min mejl uttan reklam från hemsidan i något hörn :) .

som jag kan publicera på en hemsida det skulle vara veldigt snällt.

jag och min kompis kommer med en bil nästa år :) frym lp560-4

[henrikhallqvist]

härlig video gustaf kolla min nya video med koenigsegg CCX ge en komentar och rankning :).

skit bra bilar hade du fixat detta år

[m5boarddotcom]

Tack Henrik :D

[paolino182]

ducati 1098 is more different than 848 :|

[m3mys3lfandu]

var kör ni alla dessa race?

[m5boarddotcom]

Sverige.

[golf1diesel]

Hey m5board..Gustav are they both new? no 10-15 k kilometers on them? cause that matters 2,i guess

[hetsigehans]

1000km on Lp560 and 20000km on the turbo. But the LP560 will go better after 5000km +

[m5boarddotcom]

Porsche had 20k-30k km and the LP560 was run in from the factory.

[golf1diesel]

997 turbo should have chrono package and tiptronic..:)

[m5boarddotcom]

The manual is faster tha nthe automatic over 200 km/h thanks to gearing.

[golf1diesel]

but what about the 10 second NM advantage of the sport chrono package?

[golf1diesel]

yea..and i've read that the new PDK will be 60% faster than the tiptronic s..and a little lighter(10kg).the new engines with dfi will be 6 kgs lighter

[8MunchenBayern8]

GT2 wouldve smashed it

[m5boarddotcom]

Now we did not tested the GT2 = offtopic.

[8MunchenBayern8]

how is GT2 off topic? it would be a better match..

[m5boarddotcom]

We will do that and in this video it is not.

[golf1diesel]

ofc it would be history if u run the lambo against some ferrari's(scuderia,612,599) not only gt2's and other lambos

[63Jax]

ha,ha,m-am gandit ca esti roman, cand am vazut golf1diesel, ca numai noi romanii mai suntem impresionati de golfuri si bmw ursulet.lol. Lambo nu ar avea nici o sansa impotriva lui 599gtb si gt2.

[golf1diesel]

am vazut mai multe posturi de ale tale 63 jax stiam k esti roman :P pai da ce sa i faci..:))aia e vechea masina a tatei pe care am invatat sa conduc ..btw we should stick with english here and on topic;))

[63Jax]

Bine zici si eu am avut o Jetta pe care am rupt-o in doua, la propriu, cand eram incepator in ale condusului. Ok then, stick with english.

[kubomon17]

love the new gallardo, awesome car.

[CheSpettacolo46]

Porsche would have to make his GT2 with an atmospheric engine, turbo is for cheap VW cars not for +200k supercars that have to show all his brand technology.

[arnieboy123]

thtas nice the new gallardo lp560 the murchilago lp640 is better tho

[chebello90]

oh yes it's true gt2 is faster..!:D but the difference is about 5 km/h.

factory says porsche gt2 0-100 in 3.7 sec, 0-200 in 11.2 sec....lambo is lower again....poor vladburiassot

[golf1diesel]

true! :)) i really want more races with this new lambo beast and 997 gt 2,maybe zr1 and slr :D

[chemkouv]

do i have to sell drugs and kill people to get a lamborghini like that?

[HerrBenji]

hahahha probably... or become a weapons dealer like Lord of War movie..

[gallardo11]

I would be willing haha

[golf1diesel]

gt2 would be better all day long..porsche underrates their times..driven properly a gt2 can do 0-62 in 3.5-3.6 and top speed is a lil better.don t get me wrong i really love lambos,but i respect more porsche..

[MonkeyMagic089]

Interesting race, but surely the GT2 would be a comparable rival over the Turbo. Since the Gallardo LP560-4 is in the same price bracket as the 911 GT2 :)

[vladburjassot]

no man,this gallardo is mucho better than the gt2

the gt2 is comparable with the "old" gallardo

[chebello90]

you dont know anything about cars. new gt2 has 530hp , and lambo has 560hp. is not possible to compare gt2 with old lambo.

watch this video..:Drag race Gallardo LP560 vs. GT2 vs. F430 Scuderia

[vladburjassot]

i don't know hoo know more about cars.....u or me...but in that vid are some fails....like....the cars are moving when starts the race.....

and tell me why the old lambo isn't comparable with the gt2???????????

[chebello90]

ok! new gt2 is as fast as the new lambo lp560 that is faster then the old one!...how can the old lambo be as fast as gt2?! :D...however in this video cars are moving when start too

[vladburjassot]

look man,i didn't say theat theold lambo is fastest,i say that is comparable,because is a bit slowly but cheaper....

and the fkin new gallardo is BETTER than that fkin gt2,repeat BETTER

LP560-560 HP,O-100 3,6 S,325 KM/H,183.000 EURO

GT2 -530 HP,0-100 3,7 S,327 KM/H,204.000 EURO

what do u say now?????????????

and the gallardo is much more beautiful car so don't fuck me plz

[chebello90]

oh mi stai sul cazzo(italiano)!!!well u know that lambo is 5 liter v10, and gt2 is 3.6 liter v6.although gt2 has a smaller engine and less power, max speed is the same!!the lambo has also 4wd but has the same accelleration...i think that they could have done it better then it is, stupid lambo!!!

[vladburjassot]

i don't care the engine cubicage....

look man...u love the gt2 and i the gallardo(more the lp640) so i don't want to explain u more that the lambo is better so i will not comment more.....

[golf1diesel]

max speed isn't the same..gt2 clocked at 330 kmh and lambo at 324..and factory says 329 porsche and 325 lambo

[MonkeyMagic089]

But as proved by one of these videos the 997 turbo is faster than the old Gallardo. So what would be proved by racing the faster GT2 model against it?

The GT2 is the only comparable 911 to the new Gallardo LP560-4, and thats a simple fact.

[vitocorleone57]

4wd spins at 50 kph, wow, thats raw power.i guess coz he started in 1st gear,a 2nd gear start might be better, i guess.lp 560 is far faster than superleggera and normal gallardo.amazing car

[jdydbgdsy]

great vid once again.. normal result. The LP560 beats the GT2 (997) and the Scuderia on any distance drag race..

[golf1diesel]

first version with 500 hp and this if they race would be a really high difference i guess...so pls m5board also race lambo's with lambos for us to see the difference :D

[hetsigehans]

Its done, Gallardo 500Hp and Gallardo SE vs Lp560. Have patience =)

[golf1diesel]

well i have :D i'll be waiting :D

[olaguma]

you should compare 911 GT2 cos` 911 Turbo is more suitable for normal Gallardo! Like 911 GT3 is for Gallardo Superleggera

[fabglein]

i cant believe the lambo is that quick..the 5 litre gallardo was slow..cant believe 50 hp extra makes that much diff so im still not convinced...if it can out run a z06 i will be...

[golf1diesel]

even a gt3rs 996 with 385 beats the gallardo with only 385 hp.then the se gallardo beats a 997 gt3...and now this.........i can t believe it either man.....i want to see gallardo lp560 race with normal 500 hp and with the SE

[ANDERS20007]

This LAmborghini is too faster for Porsche!!

[novan3]

Very entertaining!

[ianfagerstrom]

I want to see RUF get their hands on the Porsche 911 with the PDK transmission. Next generation of the RT12. That will be the ULTIMATE supercar.