Good work Beijing police. Way to crack down on criminal activity. This video shows nothing of course. You could have shot a video on the streets anywhere in China with cops standing around, labelled it christian to get a reaction...
@ C.I.A. trained Christians: What are you doing in China???
I don't care about your answers, but I know your are doing wrong!!!!
I am a Chinese Christian who is living in China and I support our government, I don't feel any embarrass from them. The people got jailed are the ones whose break the country laws and have connection with C.I.A. terrorist organization, these people are harmful to our Chinese security so they must be punished!!!
China is doing right!!!! We love our government!!!
how convenient, dumping an ideology the west has since discarded, except for a handful of retarded cockroaches, bear in mind the chinese pragmatic people and are not easily sucked into this massive black hole of nonsensical superstitions.
@vidbid1 No freedom of religion in China. Filthy communists. hypocrites.
GO CHINA.
ur doing the same thing with muslims in ur fake country. no freedom of religion in usa for muslims.
BLAH BLAHA BLAH Anti islam everyday on the news.
also why do you use there products, goods and china resources, if u hate china so much tell ur government to get out of CHINA all together once and for all.
@jojo1ukuk There's already huge load of Islamists over here now, so why are you ranting like a rabid dog? So what, there's some negative press on the Islamists, do you spend you whole day watching the news? I don't care about it, and neither does anybody I know care about it. Our government isn't in China. The Chinese run China. We buy their cheap crap because it's cheap. Really, man, you need to chill. Don't get so worked over something that is so unimportant. I mean, really, how absurd.
@brian8793 sez: "Doesn't God say that you should obey the law of the land?"
Brian, are you really asking us? Or is that a "trick question"? I don't know of a single passage in the OT where "God" said, "Obey the law of the land". Do you? If so, please quote chapter and verse for us. And, not from one of the later "revisionists", like Jesus, Mohamed, Martin Luther, or Joe Smith. OT only, OK? Thanks. :-)
@nameofthepen I think this brings us back to the issue we were discussing earlier. The Old Testament was written a long time ago. In The Bible, a lot of commandments were given for the safety and well being of the people living in that time period. Obviously it's ok to eat shellfish now, but back then(not having urgent care), eating a shellfish could quickly get you killed if you were allergic. Same goes for alcohol. Palestinian wine was made for health reasons. Also for Anesthesia
@brian8793 sez: "The Old Testament was written a long time ago." So, you are saying it's OK to trivialize and/or ignore parts of the Old Testament? So, who gets to make the call on which parts of it you can safely toss in the garbage? ;-))
@nameofthepen We don't garbage anything from The Old Testament. We can speculate on why God commanded certain things. I can do that all day long. We can also speculate on why Joseph Smith and other early Church leaders did, but they did what they had to. Same goes for the Old Testament.
Whatever past and present Prophets have done was for a reason. It worked because the work is being done, and The Kingdom of God on earth is spreading, just like prophesy foretold.
@brian8793 - "...We can also speculate on why Joseph Smith and other early Church leaders...did what they had to. Same goes for the Old Testament...It worked...and the Kingdom of God on earth is spreading..."
I know you are trained to see it that way. I guess it's "uplifting" to you that the "Kingdom of God" has been nothing but a reign of mass murder, like the ones in the OT, the Crusades, the Mountain Meadows Massacre, etc.? Is that what you're telling me?
@nameofthepen The crusades were during a time when the Church was not on the earth. So I can't speak for them. The Mountain Meadows Massacre was very unfortunate. Almost every member that was involved in that was excommunicated. Mormons weren't the only ones involved in that horrendous act. There are were also Native Americans working with the soon to be excommunicated members.
The Utah war, and the countless number of attacks on Mormons are no excuse for what happened..
@nameofthepen "Wine" was also used to describe any fruit beverage. So, instead of saying, "Jesus turned water into a mixture of pear, plum, and apple juice," "They said wine.
Anybody who think Christ would be ok with ONE SIP of the most destructive physical force on planet earth(alcohol) is not using common sense. Alcohol has no purpose in 2011.
China is not going to allow freedom of religion because people are breaking the law. That will only HINDER our efforts. Only the spirit converts!
@brian8793 - I see incredible *Mormon disinfo* has been fed to you, when you say such absurd things as " 'Wine' was also used to describe any fruit beverage...Anybody who think Christ would be ok with ONE SIP...is not using common sense."
Brian - anyone using "common sense" would know that fruit juice spoils quickly - OR ferments into an alcoholic beverage, which preserves it. You think they had refrigerators back when Jesus was walking around? :D
@nameofthepen No, I agree. That's exactly what I was trying to say. Of course there was a reason for it. They called it "Palestinian" Wine. Also, you shouldn't judge the Church based on anything a member says. People lie. There could be a non-member who is just saying insane things because they hate the Church.
You should only go by what our authority says, or does.
@brian8793 - Brian, you're a very nice guy. As are most Mormons I've met.
But...here you just said: "People lie", and then immediately followed that with, "You should only go by what our authority says, or does." I beg you to try to see the cognitive dissonance in those two statements. :-)
@nameofthepen That is a very good point. The way Christ set up his Church has made it so that there is a system of checks and balances equal to no organization that has ever existed. Take the rules our missionaries have to follow when in the field, for example. Some of them may seem extreme, but they work.
Exactly why God gives these rules, is pure speculation. I just know that they work.
@brian8793 - I'm not aware that "Christ set up his Church". Where is that written please?
Brian, do you notice that you are only repeating hearsay from your elders, and haven't produced ONE biblical reference this whole day to back up your statements? I asked you early on if you have actually read the Bible. So...please: what's the answer to that?
"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
"After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come."
"And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
God gives us what we need to know in each dispensation. We are in The Latter Days.
That in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, [that] the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
@brian8793 - in this, and the next two parts of this message, you quoted all NT works. Which were written IN GREEK. (Jesus didn't speak Greek) So, third time: have you actually read the bible yourself? :-)
@brian8793 - and...what you just said is the perfect example of faith. ("Belief; the assent of the mind to the truth of what is declared by another, resting solely and implicitly on his authority and veracity; reliance on testimony.")
Yet, you haven't bothered to earnestly study the Bible for yourself. So, in WHOM are you actually putting your "faith"?
@brian8793 sez: "Adam was the first member [of the Mormon church]." Hey, we're getting into space opera + religion now? Well, how about this:
Adam was the first starseed child put here by the great (insert favorite name for giant deity). He then reincarnated as Buddha, and later, again as L. Ron Hubbard.
He will make his final appearance, just before Earth collides with Planet X, as the savior named...(to be announced). How's that? Do you believe me? :-)
@nameofthepen "Mormon" is just a nickname. We are Christians. The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. We are in the latter days, and we are Saints because we believe in Christ, and take upon his name in all we do.
A lot of these little Christian Churches who try to have church in China without permission are actually doing the movement a diservice. They just end up pissing the police off and causing problems.
No, China will have the gospel, but we have to do it the right way, by the spirit. We can't "force" our way in there. It's not gonna work like that....
There are no "right, fair, legitimate or good" sides, because all men are selfish and corrupt with varying degrees of advantages, vulnerabilities, and opportunities.
you seem to forget american have lots of guns just for things like this and we will defend this country .the chinese people are pawns of the government, its the government thats corrupt just like americas government. where do you stand chicken shit.
Religeon is full of shit some have good messages like Christianity others are full of hate and oppression like Islam. At the end of the day thery are all fake man ,ade beliefs some being better than others.
@Alexplus20 Actually, Islam also has some good messages as well, and Christianity is also packed with hateful messages and incites violence. Most religions have both. Why? Because religions were used as a way to govern society, but also unite people and mobilize them in to fighting when needed. Even Buddhism has these characteristics. The more recent ones, like Mormonism or Scientology, are just pure science fiction created by conmen seeking fame, money, and power.
@TadaHanJan yeah liove thy neighbour a thy self is anything similar to behead those that leave islam convert the world so that the religeon will all be allahs yeah haha. Saying that islam has good messages is like saying that Hitler was a good man..uneducated and somewhat retarded.
@Alexplus20 I can see that you have not thoroughly read the Bible, or the Koran. I suggest that you go read those, as well as both positive and negative critical reviews about them, and learn the history that leads to, surrounds, and leads from both religions. I'm not criticizing you, as many people out there are not well informed because they never bothered to take the time to look things up, or never could afford the time since they are busy with life. Just please, be informed for your sake.
@TadaHanJan islam says kill the infidel convert the world to islam. chorithans one respect those that reject the word of the lord. the qu'ran tells you to kill them. simple enought tounderstand no? Love thy neighbour as thyself. Qu'ran kill the unbeliever where ever you may find him. you can keep on commenting if you like makes no difference to me people who defend the muslims are as idiotic as the muslims themselves.
@Alexplus20 Defend? To me, all religions are nothing more than fairy tales used as a tool to control people in to doing the biddings of the people who hold power at the top of the power chain within each respective religion. However, the First Amendment guarantees each individual the right to believe in whatever they wish, and I will respect that whether or not I agree. I am speaking from an objective point of view. Also, take note that what I said was that they all condone some type of violence
@TadaHanJan and when you can't respect someones opinion..hell not just an opinon a fact you complain about their private channel. Typical behaviour. And now your claiming that you won't respond when it was YOU who responded to me.It's typical and pathetic.
Also, I shall no longer reply to you, should you choose to take more of your time to reply to my comments. It is clear that your mind is made up, and that you have no interest in keeping an open mind and becoming well informed. Which is somewhat a shame, since Democracy fundamentally relies on its participants to be well informed about the decisions they make in the voting booth. I can only hope you choose to change your mind, hopefully sooner than later. Have a good day.
@TadaHanJan Actually, having been a Buddhist monk myself, Buddhism is not regarded as a religion. It's more of a way of life. Pure Theravada Buddhism, which is what I follow, has no such concept of god. As Buddhism moved Eastward away from India, leaders began giving Buddha god-status out of nowhere. Why? Because as you clearly stated: to govern society. So as a former-monk, I can say that Theravada Buddhism in no way promotes violence. We view Buddha as a social reformer, not a religious man.
@kenpotensin Yes, that is a very valid point. It really isn't until Buddhism hit the more eastern countries like China or the Korean peninsula that Buddhism became more of a tool to govern with. There is much history of monks being involved in politics and wars in those countries. There are also several branches of Buddhism, which can be split largely in to mainstream religion-like forms and the forms that promote self-enlightenment. Good catch, sir monk.
@Alexplus20 - You hide your channel while your "it's all either black or white" messages show you are ignorant, prejudiced, or both.
All three "Abrahamic religions" (christianity, islam, and judaism) have the Old Testament in common. They all share brutal roots, but try to hide it, to appear to conform to today's new politically-correct, "we are all one" meme. Each, given the opportunity, still calls outsiders "pagans", "infidels", or "goyim", and happily slaughters them, "in god's name".
@nameofthepen Hey now, don't forget that they each claim God "hates" certain types of people that they do not approve of, despite their religious texts clearly stating that their respective Gods loves everyone, regardless of their sins.
@TadaHanJan - so true. I think religion, government and science all took a 180° turn as certain opportunistic, predatory types managed to insert themselves into, and hijack the purpose of, all three of those originally-healthy interests. :-)
@nameofthepen Agreed. Even something as recent as the Tea party movement clearly shows how a perfectly good movement can be hijacked and turned in to a political tool for a small number of people to abuse and gain power and status. Human greed will be our own undoing in the end.
@TadaHanJan - I really like your comments, but, this one has me scratching my head: "Human greed will be our own undoing in the end".
It is, IMHO, possibly the most inane old cliché in the bucket. Unless, of course, you are willing to specify exactly to *whose* "human greed" you refer. ;-)
Aaaaarrrrrrrrggghhh are you a paid for government worker sounds like it..you dont no anything about me, when you lump americans together as thinking as one you are prejudice and an idiot ..i feel sorry for folks like you ,you will get yours , what goes around comes around...
Why is atheism mixed in this conversation? The chinese are buddhists. Mao's blend of communism is not Stalinism and today's chinese communism is a far cry of what it was back then. Can it even be called a communist country? It looks like they have hyper capitalism to me.
Look at the atheists, coming soon to a town near you. Remember these people don't get a fair trial rather their organs get sold to the highest bidder when they are working in the slave labor prison camps. Mao murdered 80 million. Do you wish to be like him?
I have no problem with the peaceful atheists & agnostics, it is the militant ones that wish to remove all reference of or about G-d in society. The ones that that are in truth autathists - self made gods that demand their standard.
All you people bashing atheist. This is fucking America. We have our freedom. Stop bashing us. Most of us don't go around bashing other religions unless someone said something that starts a big argue. Shut the fuck up to all you people saying we atheist are low life. I thought your "god" created everyone equal and everyone was in his image. You guys are contradicting your own religion
@itachisan02 You are seeing the backlash against the agenda driven goal of removing all real faith from this nation. I don't say all atheists are behind it, but the richest and most powerful ones are. Religions are blamed for the activities of their extremist sectors because they refuse to police themselves. It is the us vs them mentality that the media tries to enforce to spread division to keep our eyes off of the real folks that control the gov & the media & are driving us all into slavery.
@Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh We americans in nature are. Rude sometimes. He are rebels. We are trend starters. We love to have a good time and act like retards :)
@mtzlypk Just wait till they come bust down your door to blow your head off. Then all you own will be theirs. Oh, yeah - they are coming to claim what is theirs and it will not be a pretty day for many americans.
The gov has already sold out to china so they are not going to do squat to protect you and the military is busy fighting the puppet wars. So in essence you're screwed.
@itachisan02 i don't doubt that and I have said that to friends and family about the hypocrisy that exists among many christians. But, atheists also act like their group has never done anythng bad.
There are good and bad people in the world. Bad people will do bad things, and good people will do good things. But the only way to make a good person do bad things, is to make that person religious.
Wrong. All people have good and bad in them. But to make a person tend towards good.....you have to give them the incentive of religion. Otherwise like atheists they will do bad. CATHOLIC STATE for the future please!
Join religion today and you can be apart of the craze that advocates and promotes intolerance, ignorance, indoctrination, genital mutilation, pedophilia, genocide, rape, assault, harassment, unicorns, man eating pigs, bald men that summon man eating bears, a world-wide flood that leaves no evidence of itself, a 10,000 year old universe, incest, and so MUCH MORE!
....Yeah, religion is the vision of peace.....lol. (sense the sarcasm)
That's atheism and atheists you are thinking of. They have NO restrictions on all those......or anything really. If they can.....they will. That's their motto. uggh....not a recipe for civilisation. CATHOLIC STATE....coming up.
Common sense, societies moralities, the law...are just some of the boundaries of any non-believer. However when you can just say "I'm sorry" to god, you have no boundaries, no limits. Also, please stop saying "catholic state"...it disgusts me that you promote pedophilia like that. You should know that religion is on the decline, and will continue as such until it is finally gone. It'll take sometime, but it will be gone eventually. :)
@amaqula lol, the percentage of atheist criminals is much less than that of the general population, same for those in prison, same for those in looney farms. the percentage of atheist politicians is much less than that of the general population, same for cops and soldiers. case closed
Chinese people are flocking to Christianity......they love it. Soon the government will relent.....they just have to put on a show of strictness first. CATHOLIC STATE for China please!
@amaqula who love those stuff? holy crap. history tells us some people are taking advantage of or in name of kindness religion for their evil intention and purpose.
@amaqula Sorry, I don't think Catholic will go anywhere. shame on you. i don't believe that crap. I believe knowledge, i believe the power of rightness instead these craps. Are you graduated from elementary school?
@ENDRENOABORTION thanks, well, i dont agree your comments. the idea is just from the bottom of your heart, not mine. so, you might go that direction or way. sorry, i won't do that. I helped people through my knowledge and expertise, you can help in your ways but do not bring the "dirty" intentions.
You can't kill in the name of 'atheism'. Atheism is just the non-belief of one additional god then everyone and anyone else. It is not a driving force, its hardly even a title. Stalin killed solely because he wasn't a nice person, he wasn't a good person.
If Stalin were a christian he'd done what he did in the name of god as millions of over criminals have, and therefore he alongside all other followers of god would have felt his actions were just. No sane atheist believes Stalin's actions were just.
@CaveStoryChannel I respectfully disagree with you. Have you read the Bible? I'm pretty sure murdering massive amounts of innocent people is frowned upon. I'm glad you have a good sense of right and wrong, but you can't really speak for all atheists. You might just be a nice guy.
Like the Quran, and various other religious texts including the bible, they all ask for the death of a large variety of people.
"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)"
@CaveStoryChannel That was during the establishment of the Church. You're used to living in a Christian. Back then, it wasn't a Christian story. People weren't as nice.
God knows exactly what was needed for his Prophets to do throughout history. If you see Thomas S. Monson call for anyone to be put to death, then I might raise an eyebrow ; )
@brian8793 sez: "Have you read the Bible" I'm pretty sure murdering...innocent people is frowned upon." Brian, I see you're a Mormon. Have YOU actually read the Bible yourself?
If so, did you skip the many parts in the OT, where, according to the claims of some "prophet", "tribal leader", "patriarch", etc., "God" ordered mass murders of whole groups of people, which other people were then only too happy to carry out?
@nameofthepen Of course I've read The Bible. The Book of Mormon also has killing in it too(also cannabalism), but you have to take into context the time and mindset of the people. The Bible has rules on how to treat slaves. This doesn't mean that God adored the system of slavery, he just knew that it was an inevitable fact of life.
Certain times in History call for the children of God to do different things. There were no Christians committing mass murder when Stalin was. Same goes for Pol Pot
@brian8793 sez: "There were no Christians committing mass murder when Stalin was. Same goes for Pol Pot."
LMAO!! :D What does that have to do with what I said about the OT being full of stories re: " 'God' ordered mass murders of whole groups of people, which other people were then only too happy to carry out"?
And, FYI, it is mainly CHRISTIANS who are right now murdering innocent people in Iraq, Afganistan, and lately, Libya, too.
And it is Jews who are genociding the Palestinians.
@nameofthepen I'm not going to judge these people you mentioned.The population in Palestine is increasing every year,so how can you say they're committing genocide?Israel could destroy Palestine in a matter of seconds.I don't want to get on that. That's out of my control
Are you saying that The United States Military is a Christian organization?Come on brother,you're smarter than that. There is a lot of alcohol abuse in the military,and God has commanded us not to drink the stuff(for starters)
@nameofthepen It was good hearing your points of view, and I appreciate you using civil language. I have to go to a fireside right now, and I hope you have a great evening : )
I believe in knowledge too.....and I believe in the power of righteousness. God demands this of us. Maybe you are just jealous of God! I'm so glad not all in China are. Stay with your sulk. CATHOLIC STATE for humanity!!
For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Romans 10
The new nun goes to her first confession. She tells the priest that she has a terrible secret. The priest then tells her that her secret is safe in the sanctity of the confessional.
She says, "Father, I never wear panties under my habit."
The priest chuckles and says, "That's not so serious, Sister Bernadette. Say five Hail Marys, five Our Fathers, and do five cartwheels on your way to the altar."
@iknewitalready Jesus is the son of God who gave his life to save us all. He created the universe and he gave his life so that we can have our sins forgiven.
@iknewitalready and Mohammed was a child raping pervert who had sex slaves many wives and fucked kids like Aisha who was only nine. What's your point? Mohammed was also a warlord who stole other peoples countries and stoked people to death. Jesus was a "basturd"? Haha you retard. Haha.
Jesus was a bastard who got hung high on a tree for saving the world. Holy fucks and ignorant followers. Jesus was gay and had Twelve gay boy friends till he got hung. Jesus sucked dicks.
fishers of gay men.
ate porky shit and piss for his final supper. and he got hanged.
jesus and jesus freaks like you fuck the world everyday.
@iknewitalready actually he didn't get hung he got crucified by the Romans. jesus freaks like me? Where exactly did i say i followed a religeon? I am Atheist I don't have time for imaginary sky deities and pedophile warlord fake prophets. Don't like pork? then don't eat it at least we don't slit the throats of our animals before we process them unlike you barbarians. the only ones fucking up the world right now are Muslims and Arabs just look at Sudan and the Middle east for starters.
Jesus freaks & so called "atheists" in the Christian West kill people on a massive scale & preach big ideals. pork eat shit and the "atheist" christian the pork flesh. pork piss as koolaid.
Muslims & Arabs are armed by Christians in the US govt and CIA. selling weapons and funding them to open up oil pipelines around the world. terrorists network created by USA and the Christian west.
@iknewitalready haha west kill people? So do Muslims and arabs only on a much bigger scale and before the west ever got involved in your worthless countries. keep on being bigoted blaming the west for your problemsit is beyond laughable. Stupid child go to the afterlife and suck on Mohammeds child raping two inch penis.
Jesus the fucking Christ was a sexual pedophile too. That is why child raping priests exists in the Catholic Church. Jesus don't have dick. Jesus was a shemale.
The Christian "atheist" Government in the West overthrows democratically elected Governments around the world to invade and oppress foreign countries.
@iknewitalready haha so funny lol. All religeon is stupid but your rant about the west OS beyond funny dare I say LOL-o-caust? You are so mad over the west yet ignore that the arabs have done the exact samethibg only with force in the middle east. Did you know that the mahority of the countries in the middle east were Christian and Jewish before Muslim and atab conqiest? You sir, are nothing but a bigot and dope.
yEH YOU FUCKING CEOS WHO DON'T WANT TO PAY YOUR SHARE OF TAXEES = TAKE YOUR FUCKING ASSES OVER TO CHINA - SEE WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS TO YOU THERE
oH AND DON'T ASK FOR OUR MILITARY TO SAVE YOUR FUCKING ASSES - UNPATROTIC FUCKING CORPOATIONS TAKE YOU DAMN ASSES THERE AND SEE WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS TO YOU
don't worry folks.....China is going to Christianise soon. Eventually the Government will twig. CATHOLIC STATE for China please! Atheist states always fail.
@sugreev2001 RELIGION IS BELIEF, AND WE'RE ALL BELIEVERS, YOU BELIEVE IN NATIONALISM, OR ATHEISM OR DARWINISM, THEY'RE YOUR RELIGION. MANY RELIGIONS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD; CHINA ENCOURAGES THE RELIGION OF NATIONALISM; THE WORSHIPING OF STATE---IF YOU DON'T KNOW, NOW YOU KNOW.
@roxyosox122 Because many atheists put them self as god thus follow autothism. The religion of self worship. To be truthful that Is the national religion in the US. Because even a good share of claim to be Christians follow it.
@roxyosox122 religion is spirituality, spirituality is a belief in something without form or substance, but is ultimately greater than you are: an ideology is something without form or substance, but, is greater than the sum of those that believes it, or more accurately; believes in it's fundamental principles. Atheism is an idea based upon an assumption of being here by random events. This assumption cannot be proven, thus, it requires it's believers to have a little faith that it must be true
SPIRITUALITY is an ideology; an idea of something grander than your measly existence; in the word of Shepard;
"YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT BELIEVE IN SOMETHING" Firefly reference Yo! For some, religion is the pursuits of having as much pussavy as the law would allow, for others, it's feeding their belly, and for even more; religion is being patriotic. spirituality is the idea of something, that isn't tangible otherwise. nationalism hasn't form, and exist as a spirit/idea.
@sugreev2001 Look at me , I'm so hip because I'm an atheist , but I do celebrate christmas , valentines, st patricks day, and all the other holidays from pagans and other religions. I have an altar in my living room for my idol called Television which all the time talks to me when I'm in a lower state of consciousness and tells me that God doesn't exist and I hate religious people because they are bigots.
Good work Beijing police. Way to crack down on criminal activity. This video shows nothing of course. You could have shot a video on the streets anywhere in China with cops standing around, labelled it christian to get a reaction...
SnugglePuma 2 months ago
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Religion is like a dick
It's fine to have one
It's fine to be proud of it
Just don't whip it out in public and start waving it around
And PLEASE don't try to shove it down children's throats
MultiAlpha111 7 months ago
@ C.I.A. trained Christians: What are you doing in China???
I don't care about your answers, but I know your are doing wrong!!!!
I am a Chinese Christian who is living in China and I support our government, I don't feel any embarrass from them. The people got jailed are the ones whose break the country laws and have connection with C.I.A. terrorist organization, these people are harmful to our Chinese security so they must be punished!!!
China is doing right!!!! We love our government!!!
Doraemonchina 7 months ago
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Doraemonchina 7 months ago
funny as hell. the west cant do anything about halt church services in china. because china will kick the shit out of terrorists usa government.
jojo1ukuk 10 months ago
how convenient, dumping an ideology the west has since discarded, except for a handful of retarded cockroaches, bear in mind the chinese pragmatic people and are not easily sucked into this massive black hole of nonsensical superstitions.
fsxmantra 11 months ago
No freedom of religion in China. Filthy communists.
vidbid1 11 months ago
@vidbid1 No freedom of religion in China. Filthy communists. hypocrites.
GO CHINA.
ur doing the same thing with muslims in ur fake country. no freedom of religion in usa for muslims.
BLAH BLAHA BLAH Anti islam everyday on the news.
also why do you use there products, goods and china resources, if u hate china so much tell ur government to get out of CHINA all together once and for all.
jojo1ukuk 10 months ago
@jojo1ukuk There's already huge load of Islamists over here now, so why are you ranting like a rabid dog? So what, there's some negative press on the Islamists, do you spend you whole day watching the news? I don't care about it, and neither does anybody I know care about it. Our government isn't in China. The Chinese run China. We buy their cheap crap because it's cheap. Really, man, you need to chill. Don't get so worked over something that is so unimportant. I mean, really, how absurd.
vidbid1 10 months ago
One thing I have to ask Christians out there is this... Doesn't God say that you should obey the law of the land?
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793 sez: "Doesn't God say that you should obey the law of the land?"
Brian, are you really asking us? Or is that a "trick question"? I don't know of a single passage in the OT where "God" said, "Obey the law of the land". Do you? If so, please quote chapter and verse for us. And, not from one of the later "revisionists", like Jesus, Mohamed, Martin Luther, or Joe Smith. OT only, OK? Thanks. :-)
nameofthepen 11 months ago
@nameofthepen I think this brings us back to the issue we were discussing earlier. The Old Testament was written a long time ago. In The Bible, a lot of commandments were given for the safety and well being of the people living in that time period. Obviously it's ok to eat shellfish now, but back then(not having urgent care), eating a shellfish could quickly get you killed if you were allergic. Same goes for alcohol. Palestinian wine was made for health reasons. Also for Anesthesia
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793 sez: "The Old Testament was written a long time ago." So, you are saying it's OK to trivialize and/or ignore parts of the Old Testament? So, who gets to make the call on which parts of it you can safely toss in the garbage? ;-))
nameofthepen 11 months ago
@nameofthepen We don't garbage anything from The Old Testament. We can speculate on why God commanded certain things. I can do that all day long. We can also speculate on why Joseph Smith and other early Church leaders did, but they did what they had to. Same goes for the Old Testament.
Whatever past and present Prophets have done was for a reason. It worked because the work is being done, and The Kingdom of God on earth is spreading, just like prophesy foretold.
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793 - "...We can also speculate on why Joseph Smith and other early Church leaders...did what they had to. Same goes for the Old Testament...It worked...and the Kingdom of God on earth is spreading..."
I know you are trained to see it that way. I guess it's "uplifting" to you that the "Kingdom of God" has been nothing but a reign of mass murder, like the ones in the OT, the Crusades, the Mountain Meadows Massacre, etc.? Is that what you're telling me?
nameofthepen 11 months ago
@nameofthepen The crusades were during a time when the Church was not on the earth. So I can't speak for them. The Mountain Meadows Massacre was very unfortunate. Almost every member that was involved in that was excommunicated. Mormons weren't the only ones involved in that horrendous act. There are were also Native Americans working with the soon to be excommunicated members.
The Utah war, and the countless number of attacks on Mormons are no excuse for what happened..
brian8793 11 months ago
@nameofthepen "Wine" was also used to describe any fruit beverage. So, instead of saying, "Jesus turned water into a mixture of pear, plum, and apple juice," "They said wine.
Anybody who think Christ would be ok with ONE SIP of the most destructive physical force on planet earth(alcohol) is not using common sense. Alcohol has no purpose in 2011.
China is not going to allow freedom of religion because people are breaking the law. That will only HINDER our efforts. Only the spirit converts!
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793 - I see incredible *Mormon disinfo* has been fed to you, when you say such absurd things as " 'Wine' was also used to describe any fruit beverage...Anybody who think Christ would be ok with ONE SIP...is not using common sense."
Brian - anyone using "common sense" would know that fruit juice spoils quickly - OR ferments into an alcoholic beverage, which preserves it. You think they had refrigerators back when Jesus was walking around? :D
nameofthepen 11 months ago
@nameofthepen No, I agree. That's exactly what I was trying to say. Of course there was a reason for it. They called it "Palestinian" Wine. Also, you shouldn't judge the Church based on anything a member says. People lie. There could be a non-member who is just saying insane things because they hate the Church.
You should only go by what our authority says, or does.
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793 - Brian, you're a very nice guy. As are most Mormons I've met.
But...here you just said: "People lie", and then immediately followed that with, "You should only go by what our authority says, or does." I beg you to try to see the cognitive dissonance in those two statements. :-)
nameofthepen 11 months ago
@nameofthepen That is a very good point. The way Christ set up his Church has made it so that there is a system of checks and balances equal to no organization that has ever existed. Take the rules our missionaries have to follow when in the field, for example. Some of them may seem extreme, but they work.
Exactly why God gives these rules, is pure speculation. I just know that they work.
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793 - I'm not aware that "Christ set up his Church". Where is that written please?
Brian, do you notice that you are only repeating hearsay from your elders, and haven't produced ONE biblical reference this whole day to back up your statements? I asked you early on if you have actually read the Bible. So...please: what's the answer to that?
nameofthepen 11 months ago
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@nameofthepen Matthew 16:18-19
"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
brian8793 11 months ago
@nameofthepen
Luke 10:1
"After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come."
1 Corinthians 12:28
"And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
God gives us what we need to know in each dispensation. We are in The Latter Days.
brian8793 11 months ago
@nameofthepen This is my favorite: Ephesians 1:10
That in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, [that] the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793 - in this, and the next two parts of this message, you quoted all NT works. Which were written IN GREEK. (Jesus didn't speak Greek) So, third time: have you actually read the bible yourself? :-)
nameofthepen 11 months ago
@nameofthepen No, but Christ knows the Bible, and he runs the Church
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793 - and...what you just said is the perfect example of faith. ("Belief; the assent of the mind to the truth of what is declared by another, resting solely and implicitly on his authority and veracity; reliance on testimony.")
Yet, you haven't bothered to earnestly study the Bible for yourself. So, in WHOM are you actually putting your "faith"?
nameofthepen 10 months ago
@nameofthepen Our members wrote the Bible.
brian8793 10 months ago
@brian8793 sez: "Our members wrote the Bible".
I quit. How do you argue with something like that? :D
nameofthepen 10 months ago
@nameofthepen Adam was the first member.
brian8793 10 months ago
@brian8793 sez: "Adam was the first member [of the Mormon church]." Hey, we're getting into space opera + religion now? Well, how about this:
Adam was the first starseed child put here by the great (insert favorite name for giant deity). He then reincarnated as Buddha, and later, again as L. Ron Hubbard.
He will make his final appearance, just before Earth collides with Planet X, as the savior named...(to be announced). How's that? Do you believe me? :-)
nameofthepen 10 months ago
@nameofthepen "Mormon" is just a nickname. We are Christians. The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. We are in the latter days, and we are Saints because we believe in Christ, and take upon his name in all we do.
brian8793 10 months ago
lets bomb them
timthewelder1 11 months ago
go Jesus!
Xinthose 11 months ago
Why do they not show how the USA forces indians into reservations and has taken all their land away from them.
203207ab 11 months ago
What would Hudson Taylor and OMF International do?
Oh that's right, just roll over and die.
So much for bringing Catholocism to the Asian horde.
zippyman818 11 months ago
too bad...
JDaKingman 11 months ago
A lot of these little Christian Churches who try to have church in China without permission are actually doing the movement a diservice. They just end up pissing the police off and causing problems.
No, China will have the gospel, but we have to do it the right way, by the spirit. We can't "force" our way in there. It's not gonna work like that....
PEACE!
brian8793 11 months ago
Any problem
newtonsecondlaw 11 months ago
You must obey the law i think.
newtonsecondlaw 11 months ago
why does everybody hate america?
8SOUNDFX8 11 months ago
I like the way they think. God is the biggest hoax ever played.
mcgaugh57 11 months ago
There are no "right, fair, legitimate or good" sides, because all men are selfish and corrupt with varying degrees of advantages, vulnerabilities, and opportunities.
cool70200 11 months ago
I dont have a "religion", but I do firmly believe we should've nuked china before they became too powerful.
Now, they own us.
tradernorton05 11 months ago
you seem to forget american have lots of guns just for things like this and we will defend this country .the chinese people are pawns of the government, its the government thats corrupt just like americas government. where do you stand chicken shit.
mtzlypk 11 months ago
Religeon is full of shit some have good messages like Christianity others are full of hate and oppression like Islam. At the end of the day thery are all fake man ,ade beliefs some being better than others.
Alexplus20 11 months ago
@Alexplus20 Actually, Islam also has some good messages as well, and Christianity is also packed with hateful messages and incites violence. Most religions have both. Why? Because religions were used as a way to govern society, but also unite people and mobilize them in to fighting when needed. Even Buddhism has these characteristics. The more recent ones, like Mormonism or Scientology, are just pure science fiction created by conmen seeking fame, money, and power.
TadaHanJan 11 months ago
@TadaHanJan yeah liove thy neighbour a thy self is anything similar to behead those that leave islam convert the world so that the religeon will all be allahs yeah haha. Saying that islam has good messages is like saying that Hitler was a good man..uneducated and somewhat retarded.
Alexplus20 11 months ago
@Alexplus20 I can see that you have not thoroughly read the Bible, or the Koran. I suggest that you go read those, as well as both positive and negative critical reviews about them, and learn the history that leads to, surrounds, and leads from both religions. I'm not criticizing you, as many people out there are not well informed because they never bothered to take the time to look things up, or never could afford the time since they are busy with life. Just please, be informed for your sake.
TadaHanJan 11 months ago
@TadaHanJan islam says kill the infidel convert the world to islam. chorithans one respect those that reject the word of the lord. the qu'ran tells you to kill them. simple enought tounderstand no? Love thy neighbour as thyself. Qu'ran kill the unbeliever where ever you may find him. you can keep on commenting if you like makes no difference to me people who defend the muslims are as idiotic as the muslims themselves.
Alexplus20 11 months ago
@Alexplus20 Defend? To me, all religions are nothing more than fairy tales used as a tool to control people in to doing the biddings of the people who hold power at the top of the power chain within each respective religion. However, the First Amendment guarantees each individual the right to believe in whatever they wish, and I will respect that whether or not I agree. I am speaking from an objective point of view. Also, take note that what I said was that they all condone some type of violence
TadaHanJan 11 months ago
@TadaHanJan and when you can't respect someones opinion..hell not just an opinon a fact you complain about their private channel. Typical behaviour. And now your claiming that you won't respond when it was YOU who responded to me.It's typical and pathetic.
Alexplus20 11 months ago
Also, I shall no longer reply to you, should you choose to take more of your time to reply to my comments. It is clear that your mind is made up, and that you have no interest in keeping an open mind and becoming well informed. Which is somewhat a shame, since Democracy fundamentally relies on its participants to be well informed about the decisions they make in the voting booth. I can only hope you choose to change your mind, hopefully sooner than later. Have a good day.
TadaHanJan 11 months ago
@TadaHanJan Actually, having been a Buddhist monk myself, Buddhism is not regarded as a religion. It's more of a way of life. Pure Theravada Buddhism, which is what I follow, has no such concept of god. As Buddhism moved Eastward away from India, leaders began giving Buddha god-status out of nowhere. Why? Because as you clearly stated: to govern society. So as a former-monk, I can say that Theravada Buddhism in no way promotes violence. We view Buddha as a social reformer, not a religious man.
kenpotensin 11 months ago
@kenpotensin Yes, that is a very valid point. It really isn't until Buddhism hit the more eastern countries like China or the Korean peninsula that Buddhism became more of a tool to govern with. There is much history of monks being involved in politics and wars in those countries. There are also several branches of Buddhism, which can be split largely in to mainstream religion-like forms and the forms that promote self-enlightenment. Good catch, sir monk.
TadaHanJan 11 months ago
@Alexplus20 - You hide your channel while your "it's all either black or white" messages show you are ignorant, prejudiced, or both.
All three "Abrahamic religions" (christianity, islam, and judaism) have the Old Testament in common. They all share brutal roots, but try to hide it, to appear to conform to today's new politically-correct, "we are all one" meme. Each, given the opportunity, still calls outsiders "pagans", "infidels", or "goyim", and happily slaughters them, "in god's name".
nameofthepen 11 months ago
@nameofthepen Hey now, don't forget that they each claim God "hates" certain types of people that they do not approve of, despite their religious texts clearly stating that their respective Gods loves everyone, regardless of their sins.
TadaHanJan 11 months ago
@TadaHanJan - so true. I think religion, government and science all took a 180° turn as certain opportunistic, predatory types managed to insert themselves into, and hijack the purpose of, all three of those originally-healthy interests. :-)
nameofthepen 11 months ago
@nameofthepen Agreed. Even something as recent as the Tea party movement clearly shows how a perfectly good movement can be hijacked and turned in to a political tool for a small number of people to abuse and gain power and status. Human greed will be our own undoing in the end.
TadaHanJan 11 months ago
@TadaHanJan - I really like your comments, but, this one has me scratching my head: "Human greed will be our own undoing in the end".
It is, IMHO, possibly the most inane old cliché in the bucket. Unless, of course, you are willing to specify exactly to *whose* "human greed" you refer. ;-)
nameofthepen 11 months ago
Religion and communism,2 forms of BS that both stink.
MrChunkylover53 11 months ago
Aaaaarrrrrrrrggghhh are you a paid for government worker sounds like it..you dont no anything about me, when you lump americans together as thinking as one you are prejudice and an idiot ..i feel sorry for folks like you ,you will get yours , what goes around comes around...
mtzlypk 11 months ago
Why is everyone confusing atheism with authoritarianism?
chris8hr 11 months ago
Why is atheism mixed in this conversation? The chinese are buddhists. Mao's blend of communism is not Stalinism and today's chinese communism is a far cry of what it was back then. Can it even be called a communist country? It looks like they have hyper capitalism to me.
Smegma007 11 months ago
Look at the atheists, coming soon to a town near you. Remember these people don't get a fair trial rather their organs get sold to the highest bidder when they are working in the slave labor prison camps. Mao murdered 80 million. Do you wish to be like him?
I have no problem with the peaceful atheists & agnostics, it is the militant ones that wish to remove all reference of or about G-d in society. The ones that that are in truth autathists - self made gods that demand their standard.
notyranny1 11 months ago
All you people bashing atheist. This is fucking America. We have our freedom. Stop bashing us. Most of us don't go around bashing other religions unless someone said something that starts a big argue. Shut the fuck up to all you people saying we atheist are low life. I thought your "god" created everyone equal and everyone was in his image. You guys are contradicting your own religion
itachisan02 11 months ago
@itachisan02 You are seeing the backlash against the agenda driven goal of removing all real faith from this nation. I don't say all atheists are behind it, but the richest and most powerful ones are. Religions are blamed for the activities of their extremist sectors because they refuse to police themselves. It is the us vs them mentality that the media tries to enforce to spread division to keep our eyes off of the real folks that control the gov & the media & are driving us all into slavery.
notyranny1 11 months ago
china land of the free,, lol, their commies , but there are buddies? borrow some more money from the asses and lets not pay it back..now thats funny
mtzlypk 11 months ago
@mtzlypk That's how you the americans are in nature? You are not better than gangsters...
Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh 11 months ago
@Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh We americans in nature are. Rude sometimes. He are rebels. We are trend starters. We love to have a good time and act like retards :)
itachisan02 11 months ago
@mtzlypk Just wait till they come bust down your door to blow your head off. Then all you own will be theirs. Oh, yeah - they are coming to claim what is theirs and it will not be a pretty day for many americans.
The gov has already sold out to china so they are not going to do squat to protect you and the military is busy fighting the puppet wars. So in essence you're screwed.
notyranny1 11 months ago
atheists always act as if atheists have never done anything bad. Yeah-Staln anyone? The current NK leader?
sharinganclan213 11 months ago
@sharinganclan213 Why do you christians act like you've never done anything bad. Homosexuals ?
The pope's Corruption and rape ?
Don't start trying to blame everything on one group
itachisan02 11 months ago
@itachisan02 i don't doubt that and I have said that to friends and family about the hypocrisy that exists among many christians. But, atheists also act like their group has never done anythng bad.
sharinganclan213 11 months ago
@sharinganclan213
There are good and bad people in the world. Bad people will do bad things, and good people will do good things. But the only way to make a good person do bad things, is to make that person religious.
CaveStoryChannel 11 months ago
@CaveStoryChannel full of contradictions.
sharinganclan213 11 months ago
@CaveStoryChannel
Wrong. All people have good and bad in them. But to make a person tend towards good.....you have to give them the incentive of religion. Otherwise like atheists they will do bad. CATHOLIC STATE for the future please!
amaqula 11 months ago
@amaqula
Join religion today and you can be apart of the craze that advocates and promotes intolerance, ignorance, indoctrination, genital mutilation, pedophilia, genocide, rape, assault, harassment, unicorns, man eating pigs, bald men that summon man eating bears, a world-wide flood that leaves no evidence of itself, a 10,000 year old universe, incest, and so MUCH MORE!
....Yeah, religion is the vision of peace.....lol. (sense the sarcasm)
CaveStoryChannel 11 months ago
@CaveStoryChannel
That's atheism and atheists you are thinking of. They have NO restrictions on all those......or anything really. If they can.....they will. That's their motto. uggh....not a recipe for civilisation. CATHOLIC STATE....coming up.
amaqula 11 months ago
@amaqula
Common sense, societies moralities, the law...are just some of the boundaries of any non-believer. However when you can just say "I'm sorry" to god, you have no boundaries, no limits. Also, please stop saying "catholic state"...it disgusts me that you promote pedophilia like that. You should know that religion is on the decline, and will continue as such until it is finally gone. It'll take sometime, but it will be gone eventually. :)
CaveStoryChannel 11 months ago
@amaqula lol, the percentage of atheist criminals is much less than that of the general population, same for those in prison, same for those in looney farms. the percentage of atheist politicians is much less than that of the general population, same for cops and soldiers. case closed
desirefirst 11 months ago
Come to America! We have freedom of religion... ^_^
nlosborne 11 months ago
the fucking stupid video has nothing to do with the title.
xiexie711 11 months ago
Someone needs to do this with the Pope and the rest of his pedophile gang.
JogBird 11 months ago
Some are into power, money, popularity, consumerism-materialism.
Others are into or use religious, political, cultural (mainstream or sub-culture), gender, racial or class factions to get power and money.
cool70200 11 months ago
Chinese people are flocking to Christianity......they love it. Soon the government will relent.....they just have to put on a show of strictness first. CATHOLIC STATE for China please!
amaqula 11 months ago
@amaqula who love those stuff? holy crap. history tells us some people are taking advantage of or in name of kindness religion for their evil intention and purpose.
xiexie711 11 months ago
@xiexie711
Oh yeah......and the atheists are sooooo nice and hate power. Shame on you a Chinese for believeing that lie. CATHOLIC STATE for the future please!
amaqula 11 months ago
@amaqula Sorry, I don't think Catholic will go anywhere. shame on you. i don't believe that crap. I believe knowledge, i believe the power of rightness instead these craps. Are you graduated from elementary school?
xiexie711 11 months ago
@xiexie711
i love you atheists
stalin in the name of atheism exterminated the russian orthadox church making hitlers haulocaust look like a bake sale
you will commit genocide in the name of atheism- it has already been done
ENDRENOABORTION 11 months ago
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xiexie711 11 months ago
@ENDRENOABORTION thanks, well, i dont agree your comments. the idea is just from the bottom of your heart, not mine. so, you might go that direction or way. sorry, i won't do that. I helped people through my knowledge and expertise, you can help in your ways but do not bring the "dirty" intentions.
xiexie711 11 months ago
@ENDRENOABORTION That is what I have heard...
BoyToob 11 months ago
@ENDRENOABORTION Darling if you want to say that then surely we can throw many more back in your face.
Stalin was an Athiest - granted.
Hitler - no one actually knows and anyone saying anything on the subject is likely lying whether they realise it or not.
Mussolini however was big on the religion side of things.
Now that's WW2 sorted lets take a look at the bloody history of religions throughout the world.....
uhoh! there's not enough room :(
MrDelusionalPenguin 11 months ago
@ENDRENOABORTION
You can't kill in the name of 'atheism'. Atheism is just the non-belief of one additional god then everyone and anyone else. It is not a driving force, its hardly even a title. Stalin killed solely because he wasn't a nice person, he wasn't a good person.
CaveStoryChannel 11 months ago
@CaveStoryChannel If Stalin were a Christian, he wouldn't have done what he did. Same goes for any other mass murderer there ever was.
p.s. just because someone is baptised doesn't necassarily mean they are a Christian...
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793
If Stalin were a christian he'd done what he did in the name of god as millions of over criminals have, and therefore he alongside all other followers of god would have felt his actions were just. No sane atheist believes Stalin's actions were just.
CaveStoryChannel 11 months ago
@CaveStoryChannel I respectfully disagree with you. Have you read the Bible? I'm pretty sure murdering massive amounts of innocent people is frowned upon. I'm glad you have a good sense of right and wrong, but you can't really speak for all atheists. You might just be a nice guy.
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793
Like the Quran, and various other religious texts including the bible, they all ask for the death of a large variety of people.
"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)"
CaveStoryChannel 11 months ago
@CaveStoryChannel That was during the establishment of the Church. You're used to living in a Christian. Back then, it wasn't a Christian story. People weren't as nice.
God knows exactly what was needed for his Prophets to do throughout history. If you see Thomas S. Monson call for anyone to be put to death, then I might raise an eyebrow ; )
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793 sez: "Have you read the Bible" I'm pretty sure murdering...innocent people is frowned upon." Brian, I see you're a Mormon. Have YOU actually read the Bible yourself?
If so, did you skip the many parts in the OT, where, according to the claims of some "prophet", "tribal leader", "patriarch", etc., "God" ordered mass murders of whole groups of people, which other people were then only too happy to carry out?
nameofthepen 11 months ago
@nameofthepen Of course I've read The Bible. The Book of Mormon also has killing in it too(also cannabalism), but you have to take into context the time and mindset of the people. The Bible has rules on how to treat slaves. This doesn't mean that God adored the system of slavery, he just knew that it was an inevitable fact of life.
Certain times in History call for the children of God to do different things. There were no Christians committing mass murder when Stalin was. Same goes for Pol Pot
brian8793 11 months ago
@brian8793 sez: "There were no Christians committing mass murder when Stalin was. Same goes for Pol Pot."
LMAO!! :D What does that have to do with what I said about the OT being full of stories re: " 'God' ordered mass murders of whole groups of people, which other people were then only too happy to carry out"?
And, FYI, it is mainly CHRISTIANS who are right now murdering innocent people in Iraq, Afganistan, and lately, Libya, too.
And it is Jews who are genociding the Palestinians.
nameofthepen 11 months ago
@nameofthepen I'm not going to judge these people you mentioned.The population in Palestine is increasing every year,so how can you say they're committing genocide?Israel could destroy Palestine in a matter of seconds.I don't want to get on that. That's out of my control
Are you saying that The United States Military is a Christian organization?Come on brother,you're smarter than that. There is a lot of alcohol abuse in the military,and God has commanded us not to drink the stuff(for starters)
brian8793 11 months ago
@nameofthepen It was good hearing your points of view, and I appreciate you using civil language. I have to go to a fireside right now, and I hope you have a great evening : )
brian8793 11 months ago
@ENDRENOABORTION That's why atheists love communists and radical islam
HomleandSecurity 11 months ago
@HomleandSecurity
Love to laugh at*
CaveStoryChannel 11 months ago
@xiexie711
I believe in knowledge too.....and I believe in the power of righteousness. God demands this of us. Maybe you are just jealous of God! I'm so glad not all in China are. Stay with your sulk. CATHOLIC STATE for humanity!!
amaqula 11 months ago
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ching ching chong.
sipsipboom15 11 months ago
For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Romans 10
KnowHimMinistries 11 months ago
The new nun goes to her first confession. She tells the priest that she has a terrible secret. The priest then tells her that her secret is safe in the sanctity of the confessional.
She says, "Father, I never wear panties under my habit."
The priest chuckles and says, "That's not so serious, Sister Bernadette. Say five Hail Marys, five Our Fathers, and do five cartwheels on your way to the altar."
cazyblood3 11 months ago
A cop stops a man for running a stop sign and the subject gives the cop a lot of grief explaining that he did stop.
After several minutes, the cop explained to the gentleman that he didn't stop, he just slowed down a little.
The gentleman said 'Stop or slow down, what's the difference?'.
The cop pulled the guy out of the car and worked him over for about a minute and then said, 'Would you like for me to stop or just slow down?'
cazyblood3 11 months ago
Be very wary of Pedophilia Priests in the Christian Churches.
Sexual Abuse of minors with the blessings of the highest priest in the Catholic Church.
/watch?v=K_0RPSMFBwQ&
/watch?v=hl3THGO6-3o
iknewitalready 11 months ago
Chinese commie party=evil.... Fuck them... Why can't you just fucking fall like the USSR ???!!?!
bbphnix 11 months ago
China = ridiculous arresting people just for worshipping Jesus.
willminkorea 11 months ago
@willminkorea
who is Jesus?
iknewitalready 11 months ago
@iknewitalready Jesus is the son of God who gave his life to save us all. He created the universe and he gave his life so that we can have our sins forgiven.
willminkorea 11 months ago
@willminkorea At least when Elvis died for me he stayed dead.
deepspire 11 months ago
@willminkorea
Jesus is basturd who was the son of a prostitute called Mary.
Mary got fucked royally but she say that she got pregnant through holy spirit.
prostitutes in the holy fucking bible. Mary sinned & got Jesus.
Jesus or anybody can save you. Only thing that can save people is MONEY. Even Jesus needs money big time & he likes it a lot.
Jesus freaks like you go to churches to donate money to a fictional character in bible.
Jesus is dead. Thy kingdom never come.
iknewitalready 10 months ago
@iknewitalready and Mohammed was a child raping pervert who had sex slaves many wives and fucked kids like Aisha who was only nine. What's your point? Mohammed was also a warlord who stole other peoples countries and stoked people to death. Jesus was a "basturd"? Haha you retard. Haha.
Alexplus20 10 months ago
@Alexplus20
Jesus was a bastard who got hung high on a tree for saving the world. Holy fucks and ignorant followers. Jesus was gay and had Twelve gay boy friends till he got hung. Jesus sucked dicks.
fishers of gay men.
ate porky shit and piss for his final supper. and he got hanged.
jesus and jesus freaks like you fuck the world everyday.
iknewitalready 10 months ago
@iknewitalready actually he didn't get hung he got crucified by the Romans. jesus freaks like me? Where exactly did i say i followed a religeon? I am Atheist I don't have time for imaginary sky deities and pedophile warlord fake prophets. Don't like pork? then don't eat it at least we don't slit the throats of our animals before we process them unlike you barbarians. the only ones fucking up the world right now are Muslims and Arabs just look at Sudan and the Middle east for starters.
Alexplus20 10 months ago
@Alexplus20
Jesus freaks & so called "atheists" in the Christian West kill people on a massive scale & preach big ideals. pork eat shit and the "atheist" christian the pork flesh. pork piss as koolaid.
Muslims & Arabs are armed by Christians in the US govt and CIA. selling weapons and funding them to open up oil pipelines around the world. terrorists network created by USA and the Christian west.
installing puppet regimes
iknewitalready 10 months ago
@iknewitalready haha west kill people? So do Muslims and arabs only on a much bigger scale and before the west ever got involved in your worthless countries. keep on being bigoted blaming the west for your problemsit is beyond laughable. Stupid child go to the afterlife and suck on Mohammeds child raping two inch penis.
Alexplus20 10 months ago
@Alexplus20
Jesus the fucking Christ was a sexual pedophile too. That is why child raping priests exists in the Catholic Church. Jesus don't have dick. Jesus was a shemale.
The Christian "atheist" Government in the West overthrows democratically elected Governments around the world to invade and oppress foreign countries.
imperial foreign policy.
iknewitalready 10 months ago
@iknewitalready haha so funny lol. All religeon is stupid but your rant about the west OS beyond funny dare I say LOL-o-caust? You are so mad over the west yet ignore that the arabs have done the exact samethibg only with force in the middle east. Did you know that the mahority of the countries in the middle east were Christian and Jewish before Muslim and atab conqiest? You sir, are nothing but a bigot and dope.
Alexplus20 10 months ago
@iknewitalready stupid vile mad bastard. Jesus got hung on a tree/ Yeah sure what ever you say troll lol lol.
Alexplus20 10 months ago
fuck all you religious crazy ass mofos..
MetalGuitarKenny 11 months ago
yEH YOU FUCKING CEOS WHO DON'T WANT TO PAY YOUR SHARE OF TAXEES = TAKE YOUR FUCKING ASSES OVER TO CHINA - SEE WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS TO YOU THERE
oH AND DON'T ASK FOR OUR MILITARY TO SAVE YOUR FUCKING ASSES - UNPATROTIC FUCKING CORPOATIONS TAKE YOU DAMN ASSES THERE AND SEE WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS TO YOU
GIT YOU FUCKING COWARDS
justonefirefly1 11 months ago
Winning!
01jerm10 11 months ago
don't worry folks.....China is going to Christianise soon. Eventually the Government will twig. CATHOLIC STATE for China please! Atheist states always fail.
amaqula 11 months ago
China must be one of the most trusting places to live, they don't even lock up bikes it seems. or are they just left there for people to use.
UmmeMoosa1342 11 months ago
science flies you to the moon
religion flies you into buildings
incredingo 11 months ago
Religion is poison
sugreev2001 11 months ago 20
@sugreev2001 RELIGION IS BELIEF, AND WE'RE ALL BELIEVERS, YOU BELIEVE IN NATIONALISM, OR ATHEISM OR DARWINISM, THEY'RE YOUR RELIGION. MANY RELIGIONS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD; CHINA ENCOURAGES THE RELIGION OF NATIONALISM; THE WORSHIPING OF STATE---IF YOU DON'T KNOW, NOW YOU KNOW.
avernikas 11 months ago
@avernikas How the hell is Atheism a religion?
roxyosox122 11 months ago
@roxyosox122 Because many atheists put them self as god thus follow autothism. The religion of self worship. To be truthful that Is the national religion in the US. Because even a good share of claim to be Christians follow it.
notyranny1 11 months ago
@roxyosox122 religion is spirituality, spirituality is a belief in something without form or substance, but is ultimately greater than you are: an ideology is something without form or substance, but, is greater than the sum of those that believes it, or more accurately; believes in it's fundamental principles. Atheism is an idea based upon an assumption of being here by random events. This assumption cannot be proven, thus, it requires it's believers to have a little faith that it must be true
avernikas 11 months ago
SPIRITUALITY is an ideology; an idea of something grander than your measly existence; in the word of Shepard;
"YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT BELIEVE IN SOMETHING" Firefly reference Yo! For some, religion is the pursuits of having as much pussavy as the law would allow, for others, it's feeding their belly, and for even more; religion is being patriotic. spirituality is the idea of something, that isn't tangible otherwise. nationalism hasn't form, and exist as a spirit/idea.
avernikas 11 months ago
@sugreev2001 No its not.
PRtoRP 11 months ago
@sugreev2001 Look at me , I'm so hip because I'm an atheist , but I do celebrate christmas , valentines, st patricks day, and all the other holidays from pagans and other religions. I have an altar in my living room for my idol called Television which all the time talks to me when I'm in a lower state of consciousness and tells me that God doesn't exist and I hate religious people because they are bigots.
763873 11 months ago
@763873
Atheists are selfish people who don't contribute enough to society.......that's why athiest society always fails. CATHOLIC STATE.....COMING UP.
amaqula 11 months ago
@amaqula We are selfish ?. We don't contribute to society. Fuck off kid. You don't know shit
itachisan02 11 months ago
@sugreev2001 commi.
godwhyisthistaken 11 months ago
Sorry AP the video doesn't prove the title. Change it to "Party in Beijing" and it will still be the same.
NusaybahBintKa3b 11 months ago
FREE TIBET!!!!!
msgambate88 11 months ago
police state China
envanje 11 months ago
@envanje
police state USA too.
iknewitalready 11 months ago
@iknewitalready so true
TheWilfred007 11 months ago
first to comment, last to loose there virginity
daniel27121993 11 months ago
faggots beneath me
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mindzstyle 11 months ago
@mindzstyle great now i cant write because you on top ><
ARAFELI 11 months ago
1st.sweeeeet
MrBlizzard217 11 months ago
FIRST@!@!@!
YOMAMAXXL 11 months ago