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  • i have like 2 desktops my gaming one is i7

    and my school one is dule core e4600 when i ever go across 3ghz windows does not start can some one help me with that please mb p35 platinum and ddr2 800ghz pus 800watt gtx 8800

  • @3DGAMEMAN Been a year now since I was into building PC's and after building my rig that I was happy with I kind of got into other interests and hobbies. But glad to see you are still at it Rodney, great video as always.

  • Is my AMD 565 BE 3.4GHz ok at 3.8GHz, I have decent case/fans/cooler. This isn't too much of an overclock is it for my CPU, I haven't changed the voltage, just overclocked in the BIOS on my GIgabyte Mobo. Been a year now since I built my PC and did the overclock, I have forgotten a lot of what I learned about overclocking!. My PC has been fine though, although I hardly game on these days. I did try 4.0GHz without voltage increase last year but it BlueScreened on gaming, so I left at 3.8GHz.

  • Hi, noob question!, what does increasing the voltage actually do?, does it help to get a more stable and higher overclock?. If so, I guess this is why I can only overclock my CPU so far without increasing the voltage?. Can someone correct me here if I'm wrong please?. Thanks.

  • @MrIliff

    As the clock speed increases, the CPU draws more power. So the answer to your question is yes, adding to the VCore would help you attain a more stable and higher overclock. But as Rodney said, it could also shorten the lifespan of your product.Therefore, you should up the volts in small increments until you achieve the stable volt.

  • tldr: only if you overvolt or overheat it

  • I had my Intel E6850 CPU OC to 3.9 GHz from stock 3 GHz, there was never any sign of fatigue due to overclock. However I find that GPU overclocking has a much more dramatic effect. I have had a lot of GFX cards, mainly due to artifacts in the RAM so I say take caution In OCing RAM modules that be GFX or Motherboard modules!

  • surprised to see 17 dislikes..!! I just dont get it, that what was there in the video that someone would dislike. Just a good info on overclocking.

  • My videocard was damaged and the temperature was around 50c. I used for one day only. The card is not dead, still working, but some games do not work anymore.But WAS DAMAGED. Overclocking not anymore...Sorry my bad english.

  • @merkinall if you put to much voltage in it some parts may break even with small temperatures and also you should really be using programs that monitor more then one part of your GPU like everest ultimate, Because your GPU core might be 50*C but your GPU memory might be boiling.

  • 0:38 PROLLUCT!

  • My System is completely over-clocked with zero defects. CPU @4.1GHz from 3.1GHz is by far my favorite. This has become my hobby witch is fun. If you don't know how to over-clock learn before trying. Check my rig out @ MyGunzBurst Cyberpower PC

  • it doesn't destroy the hardware but shorten the lifespan, the more Clock Frequency you overclock, the shorter is the lifespan of your hardware.

  • lol pause at 0:43

    btw great vid!

  • overclocking is like when you first install a game and all the setting come in LOW and you have to max everything, its the same with cpu, it cames low, you just max it, but be careful, because you dont know if "your pc can handle the high settings" xD

  • metal weakens from impact, heat, oxidization and rust

  • @godscuttingyoudown arent oxidization and rust the same thing.

  • @SufferingSarge sort of ya, rust is the brown carp you would find on metal but oxidation is the process of metal being rusted

  • hey rodney can you help me out i have asus p6x58d-e mb with i7 950 but i have no idea how to overclock it i wish somebody that has that mobo and processor would make a video because other wise i will probably burn my cpu

  • some people buy a lamborgini. others dont have that kind of cash but still have a faster car.

    so ,why not with pc's

    and besides

    someone that buy's a lambo , probably is gonna tune it up aswell.

    thats how overclocking works on a cpu too.

    its just getting a little tune up.

    goz it was set to low in the factory.

    they didnt know what im gonna put in my pc later on .

    so they set everything low.

  • Overclocking doesn't really even do a damn thing for gaming so why bother?

  • @legitimatemind

    Oh man..

    I'm not going to botter writing a essay about this, but you're so wrong.

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  • @VejelProductions You would have wasted your time anyways. I know what matters and what doesn't and I know that what you think doesn't matter. Bye.

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  • @legitimatemind

    jeez mr . know better .

    then what are you doing wasting YOUR time here?

    goofy

    seems to me you were thinking of overclocking but got a little scared .

    it wont hurt to ask help you know.

  • @ImmortalUniverse Do you understand how youtube works? Since you don't understand computer design you must not get youtube either. Youtube gives you videos sometimes that it thinks you would like. I saw this one and had to give my two cents. You're the one who bitched. If you can't afford a fast computer don't try to make a slower one faster. PERIOD. Now jog on.

  • @legitimatemind why not? and besides you could also overclock the most expensive cpu in the world. and in order to get faster mem overclock ,you need expensive mem dimms . genius. and why the hell would someone buy expensive fast memory dimms you think. you think they will be the same on a default bios ? dont be an idiot . then you overclock the baseclock and the memory frequency will go up aswell. your just jelous . and your an ass. so go play Mario on your nintendo noob.
  • @ImmortalUniverse Nevermind him, I already told him to run benchmarks with a stock system and an overclocked system but he is just stupid. And the argument of: "if you cant afford a fast computer don't try to make a slower one faster" wow what an idiot.

  • @legitimatemind

    Ofcourse overclocking will do a damn thing for gaming. Try to run some game benchmarks with a stock system and then overclock it and run the benchmark again.

    If you do it right you will see a mayor performanceboost! Ofcourse depending on the overclock. The higher the overclock the more performanceboost you will notice.

  • @legitimatemind

    because your wrong, so thats why.

    if you overclock the cpu and mem .

    the pc will be able to handle calculations faster.

    seems logic to me.

  • can anyone help me? why does overclocking fail? im currently adjusting the fsb, and idk why it fails, because of the heat issue? i've adjusted the DRAM ratio the the lowest too

  • @deathezer100 try to get mot voltage on the cpu, maybe the pc doesn't start if the cpu hasn't got much power to run but be careful, too much voltage can overheat cpu

  • if voltage and temps are fine, then no it does not damage your hardware, your hardware can handle a little overclocking since they are slightly down clocked in factory, so overclocking that little bit isnt over doing it, its only putting it to its top use

  • Yea, good advice. I used to be petrified about overclocking, but always kept the voltage down and never ocerclocked too far- only as much as needed, not for show. never had a problem yet with CPUs failing....

    Now i`ve written that i hope I`ve not just jinxed my quad-core!

  • ok friend iis the itel i7 720Qm overclockible (not the 820 n0r 920) and if yes please show which tools i alrealy overclock my gpu =D the gt 240m 550 1210 790 too

    650 1520 920 most games play perfect gta sa enb well crush the card so i set it too 600 1500 920

  • whats a good water cooling system to get?

  • @chris3d165 A custom water cooling system. Since your asking this question though, go for a Corsair H50 All in one.

  • @Scott97169 thanks for the info.

  • Hope all this comments don't bother Rodney and others ^^

  • overclocking will actually increase life of electronics coz it keeps them fresh

    its not overclocking that kills your hardware u can increase voltage as much as u want if u have a powerful cooler

    its not voltage or clock that kills hardware its heat rodney u shud have simplified it to this dude

  • Agree with that, but a huge voltage can instantly kill some chips also. Especially for memory chips.

  • once again thats also coz of heat not from voltage

    semi conductors are only half conductors meaning they have high resistance or impedance and that generates heat coz of the joule effect

    thats the only logical reason why voltage kills chips its heat not voltage

    if theres an industrial cooler then theres no worries if it can cool fast enough then feel free to put as much juice as u want just dont let it run hot keep it under 20 degrees celsius

  • Yes we already know that....

    But even under ln2, you can burn some chip instantly.

  • u cant burn a chip if its frozen now can u :P

    its not voltage its heat that kills chips it proves my theory right

  • You play with words man...^^

    Yes you can burn under ln2, That's thermal shock problem that occur in this case.

    What i said doesn't mean you're wrong.

    The rules of physics are still the rules of physics.

    ;-)

  • no u cant burn something thats frozen dude :P

    why do u think that???

    i know u are agreeing with me in many ways but your also trying to say that something thats frozen can be burned which is very confusing

    yes and rules of physics says that frozen things cant be burnt without being melted first and it cant melt something if its being cooled the entire time now can it?

    an instant kill will only occurs when there is an extreme amount of heat joule effect once again heat is the enemy not volts

  • Yes the word "burn" is not very appropriate..my mistake ^^

    This is a semantic thread here ^^

    But I can tell you and many overclockers can too, that even at -250°C you can destroy a chip.

    I said destroy and not "burn" ^^

    A chip track can be destroy by the joule effect but also by a thermal shock, if it cools too quickly.( I mean into a µs lapstime).

    So yes if you want, this is also heat issue ...

  • hey no fair you are completly changing what u were saying a while ago

    listen a chip below -250 degrees gets destroyed coz of the tiniest vibration do u know how brittle even titanium wud get at that temp???

    thermal shock is heat thermal shock will not work if a chip is frozen

    heat kills it not voltage

    voltage = BFF heat = satan

    sadly satan is always behind the BFF so its very bad u will have to be careful thats why too much is never gud

  • "listen a chip below -250 degrees gets destroyed coz of the tiniest vibration do u know how brittle even titanium wud get at that temp???"

    Are you kidding me ?

  • not talking about "tiniest vibration" it sometimes true for some SOI.

    It just about the course you made in your question.

  • its only a matter of time before arnold schwarzenegger aka "T-800 model 101" is made and he has a superconducting chip do u know what dat means??? it means that it doesnt need a cooler it will run forever if given a gud power source

    i wonder how fast crysis will run on his cpu?

  • Do you know that in laboratory there's some rings with current running inside since ten years ?

  • dont worry it wont bother rodney he wont even notice he'll be too busy admiring himself on his awesome quality webcam

    what do u mean "yes"???

    what "rings" u mean engagement rings why the hell wud anyone run currents through a ring???

    what does any of them have to do with overclocking or voltage???

  • Caus you were talking about supraconductors ,don't you ?

  • This apart, under ln2 there's no supraconductor effect on the cpu, caus at -40°C (full) this is not enough. (and the titatnium as you said need 0.40K to reach the supra state)

    And to resume a bit all of that.

    Yes the jool effect is the bad thing. And the voltage is part of the equation. Thos this is a SEMANTIC error to say that the voltage destroy (or burn) the CPU. Ask yourself "If I put less voltage, will I get more jool effect ?" ...no.

  • So this is not totally wrong to say that, as voltage is a parameter that we can change, but we can't change the internal resistivity of the "CPU" (on this basic characteristics). We change them indirectly when we apply some voltage or frequency, but we can't control directly the jool effect.

    P-U.I and so P=U²/R Thats it.

  • Also to say that "Voltage destroy your chip" is for vulgarization purpose even if this is not correct, and I don't like that too.

  • dont give me a science lesson my heads already spinning with the stupid things i already know :(

    listen my point is its heat destroying ships not voltage

    if there wasnt any resistivity u cud juice it up as much as u want

    u shud trust arnold

    nice night for a walk

  • That's a true fact...and many people already know it, not only you.

  • @OCTeamfr WHAT?!

  • @HybridPineapple yes, it's true...

  • no i am not kidding u

    are u disagreeing with me that freezing makes things brittle coz even titanium wud get ownd at that temp

    thermal shock will not work if something if frozen and knowing a computer cooling LN cooler it will keep cooling so pretty much only something like lightning from the sky will destroy it

    voltage will not kill it only heat only heat thats the truth thats why superconductors are invincible

  • Yes

  • you pay a lot for the logo and those fancy cases. You can build a gret pc with specs greater than alienware and still same money, altough you won have those amazing cases or the premium build support etc.

  • i have have a P2 333Mhz oc to 500Mhz from the first day i bought it in 1998 and it still works great :) i use it everyday 24/7 as a home server for sharing printers and others stuffs. probably it will run windows 7 some day lol

  • Doesn't this guy look like Tony from NCIS a little bit?

  • I always thought voltages were one of those two: 5V or 12V. I don't even see how different it could be as that's the only two voltages I get from my power supply wires.

  • You couldent have a computer that costs that much unless some parts are made of platnum and gold and the computer comes with a bmw m3.

  • M3 FTW

  • How do i know if i have enough Voltage, and how do i know if i reached my limits?

    Thanks in advance!

  • you have enough voltage when your cpu runs stable,. look for prime95, and run it 12 hours.. when it doesn't show errors, your cpu is stable..

  • I do overclocking under coolermaster v8 and case is cm storm sniper

    I have reached 4ghz with decent voltages so its safe.I have only gone a little above the intel's safe voltage.Since I am going to be switching to corei5 or corei3 next year so doesnt matters even if I go extreme later on which I will 4.2ghz come to papa

  • Forget overclocking just buy better hardware.

  • there is no "better" hardware unless you overclock.

  • just buy faster parts

  • If you have the money then you do it,there is no "perfect/best" hardware unless you overclock.

    For us,it causes no damage,I had taken my old e2140 to 3ghz and used it for 2 years without any problem.

  • ur missing out on the fun

  • oh yeah , it's real fun getting a fire extinguisher to put out your brand new pc you just fried.

    And no there is no fun aspect about overclocking.

  • tht just means ur plain dumb in overclocking. There r so many softwares to help u overclock safely and yet somehow u manage to fry it -.- Good Job! Keep It Up!

  • Speaking of jobs if you had one you could just buy better hardware rather then trying to barely squeeze out 2% more speed from your old hardware.

    Honestly forget overclocking. Huge waste of time when all you hafta do is add some more ram or change the cpu.

  • You do realize that buying the cheapest model of a CPU can easily provide you with the speeds of the fastest CPU in the range? Ie. E6400 vs E6700 - the E6400 will easily provide speeds like the E6700 without any voltage increase.

  • Why would anybody want to overclock a e6400 to a 6700's speed. Wow 600mhz , whoopdeedoo and now it's running hotter , great

    Don't just a buy a 3ghz duo or quad , no , overclock a piece of crap till it blows up. That makes sense.

  • What are you talking about. The E6400 is the exact same CPU as the E6700, just lower clocked. It won't explode if you overclock it to those speeds. Either you're being ignorant or you're trolling me to hell.

  • Who cares? Your trying to convince me that old slow parts are somehow the same speed as newer parts. Well there not otherwise we would all be using overclocked pentium 2's.

    Skip overclocking , get off your ass and mow some lawns and get some money and buy better parts.

  • Or buy current hardware and overclock it past anyone else's. Example: make a core i7 920 run faster than an i7 975. I got my friend's i7 920 to run at 3.5 GHz on stock voltage. I only had 10 minutes so I could have went even higher without raising vcore. You save yourself $700! :P n00b

  • Your a dumb shit for even buying a stupid i7 now as it's overprice and has barely no performance gain over previous gen cpu's

    Not to mention under your logic a 975 could then be overclocked even faster. So honestly stfu

  • First, I didn't even buy the processor (read a little closer). Secondly, why would anyone buy a core 2 when you can get an i920 for less than $300. Thirdly, a 3.5 GHz quad core with 8 logical cores is fast enough for anything. Plus as I said, there is room for more ocing on his chip. Why would you pay $700 more for an i975 with a little more headroom? :P n00b

  • Sorry but you can;'t somehow convince me that slower hadrware is somehow faster then faster hardware.

  • This is why you fail. The reason why I7 are not overpriced. It's because:

    I7s come with l3 cache. Prev generations have L2.

    Number 2 and most importantly, they come with 2 threads per core, this allows for even faster multitasking, and processing if your game allows for multi threading.

    Number 3 I7 processors are known for hitting 4.2-4.5 ghz on air quite easily and higher on water cooling.

    Number 4: look at the benchmarks.

  • This is why you fail , your digging up month old comments

  • I fail because I responded to a month old post. Are you stupid, and cannot think 1 second into the future? I am not posting the response simply because I want him or her to change their mind, but to prevent people reading these posts and be misinformed into thinking the I7 is a bad processor when it is not. It's called correcting misinformation, which could be hazardous and erroneous to choice making by people who look at videos regarding PC components. In a sense I am helping people like you.

  • Nobody reads old comments , they don't even show up in search engines. nobody cares let it go

  • hahaha geek fight, how cute!

  • wow no offense dude but you really don't know much about computers do you? now I may be wrong about that but I do know that adding ram doesn't always do what someone is trying to achieve. Overclocking a video card is always better then buying another one if it achieves what your trying to get so buying new stuff isn't always the best route

  • Yea overclock an 8400 to an 8800's speed , love to see that.

  • so i'm guessing overclocking is good if you renew your pc every year or so?

  • yeah but he was meaning like 5-7 years instead of 15.

  • you know i always overclock, but never the voltage. the voltage is what will destroy your expensive components.

  • i got a amd athlon 64 x2 6000+ 3.0, i have the shitty fan it came with, how much could i possibly overclock it to? , i got a 120mm in front/back and a 90mm on the side

  • i need a gaming computer with i7 cpu for $1000 or less

  • Why does he reposts everything?

  • i dont care if my gpu dies on me im waiting for it to die but i see no signs lol

  • @fannypenis 

    What do they taste like?

  • I oced my Phenom II X2 550 [unlocked to B50] to 4.3ghz stable @ 1.48

  • Overclockong C2 Extreme over 4GHz ftw

  • Lol, the only people asking this question are the ones that actually have a chance of doing it... Good video though.

  • e7300 at 3.66ghz at 1.3v 1GHZ BABY!

  • i always overclock, but never mess with the voltage as that is how you can destroy costly equipment.

  • Hmm, don't think you get high speeds than do you? Just look at the intel site for the max voltage for you cpu, as long as you don't go over that and you have a descent cooling nothing will happen ;-)

    I've got my E8500 at 4.2GHz with only 1.3V ... And it runs perfect

  • 3dgameman is right we pc gamers upgrade our hardware about every 6 months I have had my E8400 OC to 3.8 and it is at 1.36 and so far I have not seen any issues and it has been like this for a year.

  • Yeah the rich ones upgrade every six months.. Some of us just can't afford that sadly.

  • Not really rich ones only true geeks... If u get like a 2000 euros/month and u life alone and not so big house u can still upgrade your pc... Dont mean that every month new pc but still you can :) But then you wont buy a good car like a ferrari or lambo and something like that :D

  • True, but where's the fun in life without the Exotic cars? :O

  • Who the f*** cares about exotic cars when you got 100% KICKASS rig? I don't because i'm geek ...=)

  • amen!!!!

  • I don't either, because i'm an even bigger geek =)

  • Well.. i think anyone how wathces 3dgameman videos for once a week is a somekind of geek :D And i know that if u take 100% kickass rig and not the lambo u must be so fucking geek that i cant even imagine how much do u really really love your rig =) i personality do love my rig even more that i would love that lambo :D BUT i also love my mini that i own xD (mini one 09) :)

  • Id get the lambo, sell it, buy a porsche and a kickass rig.

  • Porche sucks... u got my 100% KICKASS rig for same price what lambo will cost

  • obviously you're getting ripped off if your computer is costing you $300,000.

  • I don't mean that you have to buy it once... I mean that if u update your rig like a 15-30 years and u got all that time 100% kickass product it will cost u a lot of money...

  • "u're" is not a word. Faggot.

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  • LOL serious question tho. I have a Visiontek 2400HD 256MB DDR2 PCI card. Not PCIe, but PCI. And i have a 250 Watts PSU. The stock is 525/400, i can OC to 600/450 , is this going to mess up my Video card and PSU?

    Also, how come i don't see that much of a performance boost?

    I truly believe OC is a waste of time, seriously. If you want better performance, just buy a better card and most of the time when you OC, you don't see any reason performance boost. I was just curious thats all.

  • lol, when you can get a GTX 285 for the price of a GTX 275, call me back.

    Overclocking saves money. an overclocked GTX 275 (or maybe even 260?) can easily match a 285.

  • yeah I agree. I got an E5200 and I got it overclocked and It gets decent performance. Worth 80 bucks...I want a quad.

  • i have a quad (Q6600 Clocked @ 5.0GHZ per core)

    awesome chip though highly recommended and i have a 9600GT which is also over clocked.

  • lmao dude thats awesome!

  • I call BS. since the world record for the q6600 is 5.1ghz.

    Nice try though. Also if you have it 5GHz I doubt its stable.

    Many people can not even get stable at 4GHz let alone 5Ghz.

  • well it is stable after liquid nitrogen cooling u idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    4ghz is stable and if u cant do that with a q6600 u r a noob so QQ more but thumbs down to ur comment

  • I bet. First off I didnt say it was not possible I said not many can get 4GHz secondly I would like to see your so called 5Ghz Q66 running so why not post a video of it??? Of course I bet you will reply something like I have better things to noob or some idiotic response like that.

    Your an idiot just trying to look cool on the internet.

  • no acutually i would BUT i have blown my motherboard an am currently in a bad spot financially and can not currently afford a new one so i am sorry but i will do once i get it up and running again

  • Yeah of course.

  • pay no attention to the n00b who knows nothing about hardware

  • dude i would shut ur mouth... i would wager that i know more than you :)

  • Doubt that. First I have a degree in network communications and now currently getting a masters in electronic engineering.

    Also I have been overclocking before you were probably even alive. So I am far from being a NOOB as you said.

    Also for a 16 year old I have not come across many that can afford liquid nitrogen let alone many that have even ever overclocked with the stuff.

    So again you can keep trying to look like a badass, but I know you are full of it.

    Have a good one

  • in my 16 years of living i have seen such an advancement in computer technology and since the age of 3 they have been extremely fascinating... at the age of 6 i could pull your pentium 2/3 apart service it clean it and put it all back together. i could also diagnose and replace any parts that were faulty :) ten years later and they are still my passion :) infact i am posting this comment from the new alienware m17x (i like portable gaming :P) so yea i can afford liquid nitrogen.

  • Ok well I find it weird that you can afford to buy so much liquid nitrogen since you must go through tons of it if you run it at 5.0ghz daily..... also I find it funny you can not afford a new motherboard and a better graphics card for someone that can again afford to get liquid nitrogen. I know several aussies and many of them always remind how far liquid nitrogen is from being cheap. While I believe you were into computers from day one because I have always loved electronics.

  • Alienware users are second only to Mac users in overpaying for mediocre equipment.

  • Whoa, most of the time, I don't see a regular Windows laptop lasting 7-8 years. Do you? You get what you pay for with Macs, which is better quality. I admit that Macs are very powerful, but its good quality stuff.

  • *aren't

  • Macs are not more powerful, yes macs are built on a newer architecture but, but aslong as your not an idiot, a regular windows PC will last as long as you want it to.

    Macs are not better quality, they are just more expensive.

    They aren't upgradable barely, the OS is restrictive, the warranty sucks, pay the same for a standard windows built PC as a Mac and youll easily notice the PC is far superior.

    Macs are designed for idiots consumers. fact.

    Just look at their ads.

  • Macs have newer architecture? I don't think.

  • i beg to differ.... macs yes seem underpowered BUT the operating system is nowhere near as power hungry as that of windows... so u dont need this impressive quad core sli systems. yes macs do have a huge price tag i will be the 1st to admit that. but they do last forever on the original parts (with a windows pc u will need to replace shit every 1-3 years) i have a few of them.all of the software coded for macs is done more efficiently so people come to ur own conclusions but macs are superior :)

  • I also beg to differ, i cant argue about the architecture of macs as your right but with todays hardware, that is minimal at best. You also do not need a quad SLI/xfire rig to run windows.

    Also you realise Macs use the same parts as PC's but with slight differences? Any Mistake is down to the user.

    As for the OS, it lasts longer due to its awful restrictive features, so the user is not able to actually do anything look look at their expensive pretty white box..

  • No, what you buy is a pretty case. Macs are made fairly cheaply, what you do get is the software and thats it. Its the same hardware thats in pcs only that its running mac os. I can get a laptop that out does the best mac laptop for about half the price. And i have an old IBM laptop that is about 6 six years, still runs xp great. Cant say so much with my friends old mac book which only lasted about 3 years before the case cracked and buttons fell off. (Never left his desk)

  • the macs aren't made cheaply... they only use the premium parts such as top quality high end processors, video cards, and corsair ram. the motherboard chips are things like X51 chipsets and to make things better they even use wireless N (non standard), the batteries last a lot longer than windows pcs (7 hours on the macbook pro) and if your friends macbook died like that he must have trashed it (thrown it, kicked it, ETC.) the research put into these machines are immense but stay in ur hole plz.

  • Well PC's aren't made cheaply? PC's use high end processors, video cards(Macs don't use decent graphics cards...), RAM, corsair is irrelevent, they are also overpriced.

    My PC also has wireless N onboard my motherboard?

    I'm sorry but all these points are irrelevent.

    You can build a PC which is way faster for half the price.

    So no you stay in your whole.

  • true but u make macs look like an overpriced piece of shit.... macs yes i will admit are overpriced but are in many way better than a pc... i was just poking at a few things with the last comment... pcs are a dime a dozen many have huge flaws and the software support to go with it dreams of being called a piece of trash.. maccs on the other hand dont need the latest (and buggiest) hardware because apple put time and research into their os and software.

  • prt 2. the mac operating system is worlds better than windows and everyone knows it. ur high end pc equipment is either unstable or has poor software support and often requires alot of screwing around rather than buying something wich is sure to work and overclocking it. my other point is that when apple makes a computer the build quality is much better than any pc manufacturer even the peoples favorite alienware. so plz dont dis mac cuz they are better

  • @Blade100000069 Just curious.. why did you brag about having a Alienware M17x earlier.. and then all of a sudden become one of the biggest (and blindest) mac fanboy's I've ever heard? xD

    Also, Alienware computers are almost as bad as Macs for being overpriced.

    If you want real quality and reliability with good prices, I personally always go with a Toshiba for laptops and build my own desktops.. =P

    But that's just me.

  • @CutOutSock agree 100 percent any1 who disagrees dosent know what they are talking about

  • @CutOutSock PCs use high end processors? A Celeron isn't high end and they use Celeron processors at times. (The Celeron/Celeron Dual-core is a LOW END one.)

  • @DeltaPhi79

    That isn't a high end PC processor, because its a budget CPU which is half a decade old xD

  • @brendude95 Now do you realize the fault in his comment? He said PCs use high end partd and we both just said flat out that they can use low end crap. :D (Some still even use Core 2 Duos! Look how old they are! XD)

  • @DeltaPhi79

    Yes, because the Core 2 Duo is a brilliant performer and has a fairly low price, everything has a low end and a high end. Why do you have the need to start making negative comments like an 8 year old because every CPU made isn't brand new and worth $1000? Seriously what is up with you?

  • @brendude95 -sigh- I'm pointing out the fact that he clearly said PCs are made with high end parts. Not mentioning what YOU said doesn't mean he said it. And try not to offend me with an "8 year old" comment. I couldn't care less what you think of me.

  • @DeltaPhi79

    Yes, you can make PC's out of high end parts and low end parts, what do you expect, he never said "You can build PC's out of high end parts only, any processor older than 2 years old will be completely wiped from the history book and the only available processors on the market are high end ones"

    You are either a Mac fanboy trying to nitpick at every statement he says or just a complete moron.

  • @DeltaPhi79

    This argument is completely rediculous, ovcourse there will be low end parts, why is that a problem exactly?

  • @brendude95 Because he said they use only high end parts and I was just pointing that out until you decided to reply.

  • @DeltaPhi79

    Ironically i didn't hear him say it once, what a stupid thing to quote, "only high end parts", a fucking monkey would know that a PC has high and low end parts. Its a pretty obvious thing don't you think? HIGH...LOW...HIGH...LOW

  • @DeltaPhi79 i use p4 and it works like a charm for all my games. so "(Some still even use Core 2 Duos! Look how old they are! XD)" line is obsolete

  • Yes, there new systems utilize the x58 boards and i7, but before they used the crappy 775 socket processors and over charged on them. My netbook has wireless N on it and i only paid 300 dollars for it and i get 6 hours with windows 7 on my asus laptop. You just cant say PC's. There are a variety of PC's out there, some with alot better specs and battery life than Macs. The reason for the better battery life is because of how lite the UNIX system in Macs run.

  • Lol. True dat. But Alienware's best desktop has some components that would be extraordinarily difficult to replicate as a regular consumer.

    This is not to say it is not overpriced, still. To get all the parts is $14,000.

  • yeh, i doubt it......

    not ALL q6600's can do 4 ghz, only the older G0's can do it, new G0's need higher voltage. not all chips are the same, so calling someone a noob because their chip sucks is retarded.

    i have a i7 920 C0 that does 4.2ghz 24-7 at 1.35V, most C0's need 1.5ish. i just got luck with a good chip, and i do not call people noobs because their i7 cant do 4.2ghz........

    PS: not all chipsets can do high FSB's to, thats a argument for a different time.

  • I don;t see performance gains that much in gfx cards. I see like three to five fps difference...

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  • Now this is a interesting question and answer, thanks. I always wonder about that.