got the GTR fan pussies crying anytime the get raped by a complete car like porsche "the gtr is not even tryin" how come the other cars a far behind and the only two cars are so much in the front? which video were you cunts watching, besides which lubricant was used in this rape? BUHAHAHA!!
YEAH BABE!! THE REAL WORLD!! not some stupid ass biased magazin reports or some potthead racing a 8yrs old porsche 966 at the nurnburgring,this here is what happens to u when u fuck with a porsche 911 turbo.get your ass handed to u in front of everyone on the streets including hot girls,must be frustrating being in a GTR whenever u see a porsche around u get nervous uhh?
ai eu ja vi um documentario de qando lançarão o skyline ai fizerao um video com esse skyline e um 911 e o skyline ganho ! intao ai foi sorte do porsche xD e do cara qe troko mais rapido a marcha xD
@mauricera cala boca meu...isso não quer dizer que Porsche vai ser sempre melhor...e o GTR é sim melhor que o 911 turbo...ai foi o piloto do GTR que é um lixo e perdeu.
ariell92, gosto é gosto, mas se você ler direito vai ver que eu acho o GTR umgrande, carro, alias pouca gente sabe que existe um brasileiro por trás de todo o projeto dele...
@mauricera não sou de Curitiba...não sei se tem por aqui mas acho que tem sim porque já vi até ferrari 599 porsche carrera gt entre outros por aqui com certeza tem o GTR pois aqui tem muita gente rica
ridículo é o preço desses carros no Brasil, um GTR aqui custa em média 450-600 mil enquanto nos EUA é 70 mil dólares. é esse nosso governo com impostos rídiculos que acabam com o país
Quando vier a São Paulo, ariell, tente dar um pulo na Av. Europa, aliás onde foi filmado este video, tem muito carro legal , todas as marcas que fabricam carros e super carros estão lá, ferrari, porsche, lambo, haguar, mb, bmw, tem agora uma loja bem legal que vende só carro hot ou especial... Abraço , tenho ótimos amigos da tua terra !
They also mentioned that they believe they drove the GT-R to its full potential which they inferred that they can get a better time with the GT2 but still beat the GT-R time of 7.56 that day.
GT2 did the ring in 7.34 seconds. Tell me, how is it possible that the GT-R can beat the GT2 on the ring? The GT-R accelerates slower (if you dont believe the GT2 acclerates faster then you should just leave), has less hp and weighs more, and achieved only .96 lateral g's to the GT2's 1.10 g's!
I know about those test they were done by porsche. the gtr is so good that urban legends like that pop up to explain the gtr's prowless @ the ring and bonners like don't know any better and go online and make fools of yourself.
Again proving you don't know anything. The credibility of any of your arguments is 0.
First test was done by Porsche. GT-R ran 7.54. The most recent test done was 7.56 seconds NOT BY PORSCHE DRIVERS.
You OBVIOUSLY do not know what you're talking about. It's like arguing with a wall.
And again, it's NOT possible for the GT-R to outrun/out-handle the GT2. There was a test where the GT-R put down a very identical lap time to the GT3 (non-RS) model in the same hour. GT2>GT3 RS>GT3.
the only thing I have left is your a raciest and can't handle the fact that gtr is great car and built, conceived and designed by anybody other a white race. there are alot of people like you who watch these videos on youtube. the zr1 did the ring in 7:26, do you believe that because your boys @ porsche don't.
proof is in the pudding winger, you are the only nut case out there that I have ran in to that doesn't believe. those numbers you keep bringing up were done german automotive jouralist and not professional race car drivers, everybody knows that.
AWD argument=fail. Driver's republic test of the GT-R vs. GT2. Roads were slippery giving the almighty AWD GT-R the advantage. Driver says he drove GT-R more to its full potential than the trickier rear-engine GT2. He says he could've gotten a faster time in GT2 than the run he did.
So that would mean the GT-R wins? WRONG:
GT-R 7.56
GT-2 7.49
Go brush up on your math, physics, and common sense.
I'm sure every1 whos reading this is laughing at you :-D
BOTH tests had the GT-R doing 20+ sec SLOWER than 7.29. If you knew the ring, 20 sec difference on the same car with a great driver is a HELL of a difference.
One of the mags tested the GT-R and the Porsche GT2 on the ring. The HARDER TO DRIVE GT2 nearly matched its quickest time. The GT-R was over 20 secs off its time of 7.29.
the gtr would fuck that 911 good if the streets were empty, but thats old news its the gtr vs zr1 , lambos and prancing horses now and godzilla never loses the v-spec is coming.
Spec-V? Is that a joke??? It's basically twice the price of a GT-R and is the same HP. Complete rip-off. Nissan wouldn't even post the Nurburgring times because it's probably a disgrace. Now Nissan is claiming their 2010 GT-R will do 7:24 in the ring. That makes the Spec-V completely USELESS!
first welcome back to earth nycflip22, the gtr does 7:29 @ the ring while the 911 can only muster a laughable 7:40, GTR would get owned please explain before everybody who sees this video thinks your imbreaded with a tail.
Hello Mr. I don't read any news or catch up on my GT-R ringer time information.
I will not expand because there are page long discussions on the 7.29 GT-R that wasn't STOCK. EVERYONE who knows ANYTHING about the GT-R knows the controversy.
This GT-R lost because it was STOCK and wasn't MODDED like the one that lapped the Nurburgring in 7:29 or ones that were sent to journalists round the Globe to fool them.
fuck are you kidding that waesn´t a real race the gtr is better than a porshe whend nissan made that car they made it for beat the porshe i prefer to see a real drag race betwen those 2 that this little piece of shit
yea that was a real race seeing as those were probably people who had not alot of racing experience, and the gtr has 4 wheel drive so i would expect it to bog down off the start
:))) high power toilet , good one ELSRT4...german cars ar allways better than american or japanese cars...allways no matter how hard the americans or japs try...europe kiks their ass every time...in performance and mostly in quality and design
It's not weird. That Nissan probably costs half as much as the Porsche. What percentage of GT-R buyers would have purchased the Porsche if they were the same price? Outside of the Nissan fanboys, I'd say all of them.
Im not a Nissan fan as such but i am a big GTR/Skyline fan, so if the porsche was the same price and no catches as the GT-R it would be a hard choice, but id definately lean towards the Porsche just because you'd know how much it actually costs, but that aside even and if they were always the same price and noone knew price wise what the Porsche was i'd take the GT-R anyday of the week....
actually other mags/owners have gotten 0-60 in 3.3 for the GTR but 0-60 is really a useless measure, maybe 60ft times then 1/4 mile trap speeds things like that matter a lot more
At the lights is the 1 place where rear-enginedness beats ever other configuration. (Yes, front-engined AND mid-engined). It's just from then on (changes in direction and cornering) that rear-enginedness is a relative disadvantage.
Repect to the GTR, though - quick around the TopGear test track as a ~620bhp Carrera GT..
that model porsche is probably manual and the guy in the gtr probably didnt use launch control because in some countries it voids the warranty! no joke!
oh no im not defending the gtr! i was just saying thats all, i think both cars are fantastic and i'd be happy with either one! Though i dont think i'd take a porsche turbo to my local supermarket!
to be fair the porsche set off first check replay. rest was even. but the 997 has 0-60 of 3.8 manual or 3.4 with the auto. the gtr has 3.5 with the launch control or 3.9 with out. they are both more or less the same. except for price.
GT-R whit the launch controll off doesn't have a chance... but if i had the money a still would have the porsche over the GTR its less practicall but its a better car for me then the GTR i know the GTR on the track is quicker... BUT 911 RULEZZZZ
cant do that in an r35..why cuz the transmission is a fuckin auto with a dummy stick...sequential.
c,mon kids..its a 3.8 twin turbo....how much more power can you push from 3.8 liters...not much!!, and the tranny is already been recalled twice..r35 is a piece of substandard shit. i personally can design a higher performing less costly vehicle and anyone with mechanical knowhow should spot this "supercar" scam right from the start.
the r35 isn't maxed out, you can upgrade the turbos. even american companies like Hennessey is making kits for this thing, and are planning to push it beyond 1000hp. they already made a 700hp kit for it called godzilla 700. the transmission issues that you speak of are from idiots using launch control for racing after turning lsd off. they specifically tell you not to turn lsd off, or you void your warranty. yea it's kinda dumb that they even have a switch to turn it off. but thats whatsup
and seriously, who has the chance off a track to go 0-60 in 3.6 seconds safely??? Where i live there is usually traffic (los angeles), so the real question is, would i rather sit in a crappy, poorly decorated interior of the nissan, or a nice classy porsche?? I would choose the porsche (out of all, an Aston Martin DBS). and those cars are EXTREMELY fast in terms of normal cars, so so what, a DBS can only make 4.1 seconds...still faster than the average honda, and i still look good too!!
The Nissan is an extremely fast car, but the launch control is sort of cheating when pitted up against cars that don't have that feature. put launch control on a 911, and the Nissan wouldn't stand a chance. It depends on the driver! AND YES! sometimes drivers have bad days and bad laps! The nissan just has no class and looks horrid, and well, its priced cheaply for a reason, it's only going to attract young wannabe's who think they have class because their car is fast! I would buy the Porshce!
Again, dead wrong. I guess you can cite "our car magazines" as some sort of standard. However, the vast majority of respectable publications and sources have shown the GTR to be a far superior track car. The short list I provided is but a small example.
Your statement that the 911 would beat the GTR on "every road or track on this motherfucking world" could not be more wrong.
Are you seriously citing two slower times on the same track as though that trumps the fastest times? Or even if they did hold any significance, that they would negate all the evidence I already presented?
Nissan didn't cheat. You're using one source's opinion. I've seen numerous arguments on either side of the issue. You're going to believe what you believe about the Nissan times no matter what I tell you right now. So I won't bother.
Ignore Nurburgring, if you wish. You have ignored every other track competition thus far, so it wouldn't surprise me. What does surprise me, however, is how you can remain so obstinate in the face of such overwhelming fact contrary to your position. It's baffling.
And I never accused you of saying it was bad. You did say, however:
"911 will beat that little Japanese car on every road or track in this Motherfucking world."
This was the statement that started our disagreement. This statement was, and still is, completely false. I've proven it. Independent tests have proven it. The facts don't lie. You calling Nissan a bunch of liars doesn't change all the OTHER independent tests on all the OTHER tracks.
I agree. My 08 Turbo is an awesome car. From a fit, finish, quality of materials standpoint, racing legacy, etc - there is nothing in its league. Nissan designed the GTR to beat it. They too have a long legacy going back to the skyline. Hate to say it, the Nissan is a faster car. Fast has to do with one thing, fast. Nothing else. Nissan has built a great car hear. What would I rather drive - the 911, but rather driving is not the criteria
Let us say that the time what Suzuki made with the GT-R is legall what does that means?
It means that Suzuki is a great driver nothing else, If he and only he made such a fast lap around the 'ring and no one can beat it, it means that he is a great driver, not that the car is great, if he drove a 911 he would made even a better time.
I just checked the bit about the Top Gear test track. You're right. I was wrong on that one. My bad. For some reason I remember it being on there. Even still, though, it did beat the Carrera GT....
And beyond that, why can't you just admit that your original statement was wrong?
I got the link. I'm not convinced. Besides, that's not the issue.
You wouldn't not be saying that the GTR is better. You said the 911 would beat it on every track in the world. That's not a true statement. In fact, it's very, very untrue. The GTR has beaten the 911 in almost every single track comparison I have seen. If you admit you were wrong, it only means the cars are competitive.
Porsche is biased, obviously. Drivers republic simply expressed doubt and didn't say for certain one way or the other about ONE TRACK.
Why should you admit you are wrong???
Because you said the 911 would beat the GTR on every track in the world. I've shown you the times and track tests, and that's obviously not true. It's not even a matter of opinion. The 911 has LOST to the GTR on most of the tracks they've been compared on.
The 911 IS one of the best cars, but your statement was wrong.
Quallity has its price... The truth is Porsche has 20 000€ pure profit on every car they sell... But that makes them one of the richest car makers in the world.
Look, if you're going to start screaming conspiracy because you don't like the numbers that are showing up, then you're not even worth talking to.
That's absurd. It's a baseless, blanket defense in a sad attempt to discount all numbers that don't line up with your claims.
The GT-R was specifically designed to beat the 911 Turbo, and has done just that. Look at the track times I listed. Look them up yourself. Quit making ridiculous excuses.
you couldnt even hear the GTR and that means MOFO wasnt even trying. stop hatin on the r35 it smokes anything within a million bucks!
nks2192 7 months ago
O GT-R ainda tava sem placa. Carro novinho, o cara nem gosta de acelerar. Depois de uns 6 meses de uso o sistema muda.
digriu 1 year ago
o bronson deve te um bugatti pra fala q nissan eh bosta
decorp01 1 year ago
original qro ve mexida
decorp01 1 year ago
got the GTR fan pussies crying anytime the get raped by a complete car like porsche "the gtr is not even tryin" how come the other cars a far behind and the only two cars are so much in the front? which video were you cunts watching, besides which lubricant was used in this rape? BUHAHAHA!!
kay19833 1 year ago
YEAH BABE!! THE REAL WORLD!! not some stupid ass biased magazin reports or some potthead racing a 8yrs old porsche 966 at the nurnburgring,this here is what happens to u when u fuck with a porsche 911 turbo.get your ass handed to u in front of everyone on the streets including hot girls,must be frustrating being in a GTR whenever u see a porsche around u get nervous uhh?
kay19833 1 year ago
gt- r tem 480ps,nas ruas ele anda com 280ps,ao entrar no circuito o gps libera os restante 200ps... assim eh no japao!
aki no brasil ele deve ser destravado??
chsk84ever 1 year ago
ninguem tem coragem de roubar um desse em sp ! aoeieiaoeao3 no outro dia ja ta no ovo !
FreestylePortLive 1 year ago
HAHAHAHA essa merda de nissan acha q eh carro , foi sorte dele ter encontrado um 911 pela frente e não um Shelby gt 500 , ou um Camaro , nissan=bosta
bronson596 1 year ago
@bronson596 vai achando,vc nw viu no circuito,gt-r estuda + sobre o carro e vc vera...
chsk84ever 1 year ago
@bronson596 Sorte mesmo, se não a tunda que ia dar no GT500 ou Camaro ia ser vergonhosa pra qualquer um dos dois "rivais"!!
Se tu notar bem tu nota que o cara do GT-R não acelerou até o talo, então antes de fala o que não sabe procura entender ao menos o vídeo!!
Pablonmc86 1 year ago
@Pablonmc86 Camaro anda mais que Gtr? ha!
só se for um transformers
adrianomg94 1 year ago
@adrianomg94 Acho que tu não entendeu meu comentário, ali eu disse que o GT-R daria um espanco lindo em qualquer um dos dois!!
Pablonmc86 1 year ago
@Pablonmc86 Perdão, interpretei mal...
adrianomg94 1 year ago
@adrianomg94 Tranquilo, tranquilo...hehehe...
Pablonmc86 1 year ago
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adrianomg94 1 year ago
Vacilou demais o GT-R, ele tem quase 10kgfm de torque a mais ........
dimitriforce 1 year ago
ai eu ja vi um documentario de qando lançarão o skyline ai fizerao um video com esse skyline e um 911 e o skyline ganho ! intao ai foi sorte do porsche xD e do cara qe troko mais rapido a marcha xD
bruno4556 2 years ago
oq manda nao é o carro é o piloto..
soudrift 2 years ago 3
Vai ser a maior briga agora...daqui a pouco vem videos do GT-R passando Porsche...
fubaloko 2 years ago
Porsche --> WIN
NoCiety 2 years ago
Na boa, querer comparar Nissan com 70 anos de história de corridas e de engenharia de uma marca chamada Porsche...
Mas o GT-R é um carro bem legal.
mauricera 2 years ago
@mauricera cala boca meu...isso não quer dizer que Porsche vai ser sempre melhor...e o GTR é sim melhor que o 911 turbo...ai foi o piloto do GTR que é um lixo e perdeu.
ariell92 2 years ago
ariell92, gosto é gosto, mas se você ler direito vai ver que eu acho o GTR umgrande, carro, alias pouca gente sabe que existe um brasileiro por trás de todo o projeto dele...
mauricera 2 years ago
@mauricera eu sei, e é por isso que gosto tanto dele.
ariell92 2 years ago
ariell92,
Não sei se vc é de SP, aqui tem um que sempre vejo na rodovia raposo Tavares, preto cvomo o do video... Mas nunca ví acelerando pra valer.
mauricera 2 years ago
@mauricera não sou de Curitiba...não sei se tem por aqui mas acho que tem sim porque já vi até ferrari 599 porsche carrera gt entre outros por aqui com certeza tem o GTR pois aqui tem muita gente rica
ridículo é o preço desses carros no Brasil, um GTR aqui custa em média 450-600 mil enquanto nos EUA é 70 mil dólares. é esse nosso governo com impostos rídiculos que acabam com o país
ariell92 2 years ago
Quando vier a São Paulo, ariell, tente dar um pulo na Av. Europa, aliás onde foi filmado este video, tem muito carro legal , todas as marcas que fabricam carros e super carros estão lá, ferrari, porsche, lambo, haguar, mb, bmw, tem agora uma loja bem legal que vende só carro hot ou especial... Abraço , tenho ótimos amigos da tua terra !
mauricera 1 year ago
@mauricera hehe pode deixar que quando for pra ai passo por lá com certeza amo carros demais !
abraço !
ariell92 1 year ago
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O GTR NAO TAVA USANDO O LAUNCH CONTROLL...
depois testaram denovo e ele deu pau no porsche
victorappolinario 2 years ago
They also mentioned that they believe they drove the GT-R to its full potential which they inferred that they can get a better time with the GT2 but still beat the GT-R time of 7.56 that day.
GT2 did the ring in 7.34 seconds. Tell me, how is it possible that the GT-R can beat the GT2 on the ring? The GT-R accelerates slower (if you dont believe the GT2 acclerates faster then you should just leave), has less hp and weighs more, and achieved only .96 lateral g's to the GT2's 1.10 g's!
nycflip22 2 years ago
I know about those test they were done by porsche. the gtr is so good that urban legends like that pop up to explain the gtr's prowless @ the ring and bonners like don't know any better and go online and make fools of yourself.
bithvanhook 2 years ago
Again proving you don't know anything. The credibility of any of your arguments is 0.
First test was done by Porsche. GT-R ran 7.54. The most recent test done was 7.56 seconds NOT BY PORSCHE DRIVERS.
You OBVIOUSLY do not know what you're talking about. It's like arguing with a wall.
And again, it's NOT possible for the GT-R to outrun/out-handle the GT2. There was a test where the GT-R put down a very identical lap time to the GT3 (non-RS) model in the same hour. GT2>GT3 RS>GT3.
Nice Try.
nycflip22 2 years ago
the only thing I have left is your a raciest and can't handle the fact that gtr is great car and built, conceived and designed by anybody other a white race. there are alot of people like you who watch these videos on youtube. the zr1 did the ring in 7:26, do you believe that because your boys @ porsche don't.
bithvanhook 2 years ago
Thanks 4 backing up your statements AGAIN with ZERO basis/technicality.
The GT-R is a great car, but Nissan is a bunch of idiots in terms of how they tried to market it.
The ZR1 doing 7.26 is legit since it only weighs 3350 or so and is 638hp.
The GT-R on the other hand being 3800+lbs and 480hp yet only 3 sec away from the ZR1 and beating the superior in performance GT2?
Dream on.
Apparently you believe the GT-R defies the laws of physics. Please don't reply again with useless babble.
nycflip22 2 years ago
Advance all wheel drive system, you know nothing about cars. wing nut.
bithvanhook 2 years ago
It's VERY entertaining reading your responses.
That one is just plain stupid. So the GT-R's 7.29 being so close to the much lighter/powerful ZR1 is justified because of AWD? HAHA.
You're amazing. So basically AWD makes up for 158hp and over 450lbs.
nycflip22 2 years ago
proof is in the pudding winger, you are the only nut case out there that I have ran in to that doesn't believe. those numbers you keep bringing up were done german automotive jouralist and not professional race car drivers, everybody knows that.
bithvanhook 2 years ago
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nycflip22 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
AWD argument=fail. Driver's republic test of the GT-R vs. GT2. Roads were slippery giving the almighty AWD GT-R the advantage. Driver says he drove GT-R more to its full potential than the trickier rear-engine GT2. He says he could've gotten a faster time in GT2 than the run he did.
So that would mean the GT-R wins? WRONG:
GT-R 7.56
GT-2 7.49
Go brush up on your math, physics, and common sense.
I'm sure every1 whos reading this is laughing at you :-D
I'm done here. Better luck next time bud!
nycflip22 2 years ago
BOTH tests had the GT-R doing 20+ sec SLOWER than 7.29. If you knew the ring, 20 sec difference on the same car with a great driver is a HELL of a difference.
One of the mags tested the GT-R and the Porsche GT2 on the ring. The HARDER TO DRIVE GT2 nearly matched its quickest time. The GT-R was over 20 secs off its time of 7.29.
nycflip22 2 years ago
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nycflip22 2 years ago
TWO independent tests were done on the GT-R to see if it can match the 7.29 time. This would be obvious again if you had your facts straight.
nycflip22 2 years ago
NOT REAL AT ALL.
TRELL5044 2 years ago
REAL LIFE.
Stock Porsche Turbo beats the stock GT-R. Not surprising because this isn't one of the ringer GT-R's.
nycflip22 2 years ago
GTR didnt even try, he and his 4WD could smoke the porsche easy mode ;D
dodoz44 2 years ago
The 997TT's have AWD too, and the GTR only got better lap time because of slicks.
so stfu
CJAEY 2 years ago
the gtr would fuck that 911 good if the streets were empty, but thats old news its the gtr vs zr1 , lambos and prancing horses now and godzilla never loses the v-spec is coming.
bithvanhook 2 years ago
GT-R would get owned.
Spec-V? Is that a joke??? It's basically twice the price of a GT-R and is the same HP. Complete rip-off. Nissan wouldn't even post the Nurburgring times because it's probably a disgrace. Now Nissan is claiming their 2010 GT-R will do 7:24 in the ring. That makes the Spec-V completely USELESS!
nycflip22 2 years ago
first welcome back to earth nycflip22, the gtr does 7:29 @ the ring while the 911 can only muster a laughable 7:40, GTR would get owned please explain before everybody who sees this video thinks your imbreaded with a tail.
bithvanhook 2 years ago
Hello Mr. I don't read any news or catch up on my GT-R ringer time information.
I will not expand because there are page long discussions on the 7.29 GT-R that wasn't STOCK. EVERYONE who knows ANYTHING about the GT-R knows the controversy.
nycflip22 2 years ago
i dont think the GTR even pushed it on that lil tight ass street lol haha! Porsche cant take the GTR out too easily
fabalaosone 2 years ago
This GT-R lost because it was STOCK and wasn't MODDED like the one that lapped the Nurburgring in 7:29 or ones that were sent to journalists round the Globe to fool them.
sspope 2 years ago
The GTR should have pulled off the line. You can look it up
bhoppinonmoney 2 years ago
THEY WEREN'T RACING LOL
lobomochilero 3 years ago
1999 Porsche 911 Carrera 0-60 mph: 4.9 seconds sorry yet i dono where you get your info from yet thats not a 05 911.
And another thing your so wrong about the R35 the time is done by Motor Trend which does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds in the new Nissan GT-R R35
get your facts right..
EvoSinIX 3 years ago
CarandDriver clocked 4.1 seconds. 3.2 was made by a prototype.
sspope 2 years ago
fuck are you kidding that waesn´t a real race the gtr is better than a porshe whend nissan made that car they made it for beat the porshe i prefer to see a real drag race betwen those 2 that this little piece of shit
aemp82 3 years ago
yea that was a real race seeing as those were probably people who had not alot of racing experience, and the gtr has 4 wheel drive so i would expect it to bog down off the start
imoldgregggggggg 3 years ago
Turbo has 4 wd too...
gri3f 3 years ago
it isnt even a race what is wrong with you people
fiasqo444 3 years ago
Ps. sorry for the poor grammar and punctuation, its 4am here and im dead tired :)
fa22raptor1 3 years ago
OK then...there not really trying
dustziggy 3 years ago 9
Bull chit!
LAGTRracer 3 years ago
POrshe vai perder...acho...pq o R35 tem mais torque(acho tmb ^^) mas vamos ver o vid...xD
xtremepaper 3 years ago
it could have more torque but you also have to consider the power to weight ratio brotha.
mystik4l06 3 years ago
I dont think that they are even racing.
dhsnfuducndausfvusdf 3 years ago
the mannufactured gtr has a speed limiter in the ECU which it cannot perform its best...so if you get one, you'll have to modify it out
Pavee1987 3 years ago
noob driver for gtr
vincehua8733 3 years ago
both are good cars, its just a question of price/quality vs utiliy/performances..
bruninja 3 years ago
:))) high power toilet , good one ELSRT4...german cars ar allways better than american or japanese cars...allways no matter how hard the americans or japs try...europe kiks their ass every time...in performance and mostly in quality and design
cacamaspeochiitai 3 years ago
That's interesting then,
that the dodge viper ACP and the corvetee ZR1 both kick the shit out of all the german made cars on nurburg.
weird, i guess american cars are crap
Junker8 3 years ago
but still more ppl prefer japanese cars isnt that weird?
f0gGenxk 3 years ago
It's not weird. That Nissan probably costs half as much as the Porsche. What percentage of GT-R buyers would have purchased the Porsche if they were the same price? Outside of the Nissan fanboys, I'd say all of them.
cvillebuck 3 years ago 2
Im not a Nissan fan as such but i am a big GTR/Skyline fan, so if the porsche was the same price and no catches as the GT-R it would be a hard choice, but id definately lean towards the Porsche just because you'd know how much it actually costs, but that aside even and if they were always the same price and noone knew price wise what the Porsche was i'd take the GT-R anyday of the week....
fa22raptor1 3 years ago
no actually the same price, or more money in most cases
i know a kid who bought his gtr for 92,000 us dollars right here in florida
tell me that isn't a mark up from the dealetr
imoldgregggggggg 3 years ago
a friend of mine got one for 80 grand
bboikiller 3 years ago
your friend got fucking rip off
diewlaymagahai 3 years ago
the gtr prob didnt have the launch control on or got a late start.
mikez357 3 years ago
Funny how GT-R fans cry like babies and find excuses when their high powered toilet bowl gets owned lol
ELSRT4 3 years ago
check the real vid's not these wanna be street races..you know gtr would have killed that car.
EvoSinIX 3 years ago
actually, if you check the real vid's and the real stat's
you'd know the GTR goes 0-60 in 3.5
and the new turbo does it in 3.4,
I don't know how you define "killing it"
but i don't define it as being 0.1 seconds SLOWER
Junker8 3 years ago 2
actually other mags/owners have gotten 0-60 in 3.3 for the GTR but 0-60 is really a useless measure, maybe 60ft times then 1/4 mile trap speeds things like that matter a lot more
mechak 3 years ago
If they both try hard, they screw.
10737Y 3 years ago
der skyline fahrer hat kein plan von fahren...
oguz78krbk 3 years ago
1 point for Germany! 0 to Japan!
Porsche is the best car in the world!!
fgfgh5h 3 years ago
Já vi um Nissan GT-R branco , muito show o carro .
Andodebuzaum 3 years ago
no way
guitarocket01 3 years ago
gtr was not even trying
mojoreaper 3 years ago 2
nissan doesent have a bolls to beat 911
cuz is made from japanese hahaha
blera1987ks 3 years ago
gtr não acelerou tudo , e cá entre nós aquela ruazinha num da nem pra brincar ...
tadashipro 3 years ago
Não adianta!
Nissan não tem o mesmo pedigree que Porsche ou Ferrari!
1feliperagot 3 years ago
Acredito que o GT-R no pisou fundo.....senao saia junto!!!!!
BrunaoR33 3 years ago
gtr did not even speed
bekaysz 3 years ago 7
@bekaysz did the gtr driver filed a lawsuit against the PORSCHE for an assrape in broad daylight? buahahahahaaa!!
kay19833 1 year ago
@bekaysz haha funny
DutchNoScOp3R 1 year ago
I hate when other cars go in front of my and slow down, even when I'm not speeding.
judusho 3 years ago
take that Godzilla to the track and it'll be a whole different story
lyvvracingtou 3 years ago
Thanks for that. Made me smile!
At the lights is the 1 place where rear-enginedness beats ever other configuration. (Yes, front-engined AND mid-engined). It's just from then on (changes in direction and cornering) that rear-enginedness is a relative disadvantage.
Repect to the GTR, though - quick around the TopGear test track as a ~620bhp Carrera GT..
Tj930 3 years ago
Porsche e mesmo foda !
speeeedway 3 years ago
that model porsche is probably manual and the guy in the gtr probably didnt use launch control because in some countries it voids the warranty! no joke!
chenzo717 3 years ago
really? what use does it have then? so lame... at least you can use your Porsche to the limit and still go to the supermarket with it.
rafaspinola 3 years ago
oh no im not defending the gtr! i was just saying thats all, i think both cars are fantastic and i'd be happy with either one! Though i dont think i'd take a porsche turbo to my local supermarket!
chenzo717 3 years ago
DAAAAAMN! that prosche can SCOOT!
DanTheMan9867 3 years ago
Dois imbecis colocando a vida dos outros em risco, sem mais.
Vão para um autódromo!!!! Aliás, num autódromo o Nissan deixa o Porsche pra trás....
geds7 3 years ago 2
de boa? o kra no gtr num piso irmão, se não o posche turbo tinha ficado pra trás, se fosse um gt2 ae era outra historia...
eightcilinder 3 years ago
Eu não defendi nenhum dos dois.
Realmente o cara do GT-R não soube largar...... mas pisou sim. O motor que não tem som...
leonef430 3 years ago
é impressão minha ou o cara do GT-R nem usou o Launch Control???
Yvji84 3 years ago
to be fair the porsche set off first check replay. rest was even. but the 997 has 0-60 of 3.8 manual or 3.4 with the auto. the gtr has 3.5 with the launch control or 3.9 with out. they are both more or less the same. except for price.
iamimpossible147 3 years ago
GT-R whit the launch controll off doesn't have a chance... but if i had the money a still would have the porsche over the GTR its less practicall but its a better car for me then the GTR i know the GTR on the track is quicker... BUT 911 RULEZZZZ
wizardmz10 3 years ago
Porsche é mto mais carro ! mas gosto é que nem cú cada 1 tem o seu !
luizcastela 3 years ago
excelentes carros, o pessoal subestima o gtr, o modelo antigo dele era um monstro, esse novo modelo é bem melhor, é tão excelente como o porsche.
hbust99 3 years ago
GT-R driver can't start property, he is afraid of trashing transmission :D Yes, it's real world :)
VR6Boki 3 years ago
Thats a smart move on a street like that.DUMBASS!
luweegy3 3 years ago
você tem algum video daquele murcielago LP640 cinza acho que e o do BATMAN...
ROGIOSANTOS 3 years ago
sim, mas esse eu não postarei
provável que em breve esteja na página do fabonete e do raphaelws.
valeu
leonef430 3 years ago
who likes to mash the clutch in between gears?
cant do that in an r35..why cuz the transmission is a fuckin auto with a dummy stick...sequential.
c,mon kids..its a 3.8 twin turbo....how much more power can you push from 3.8 liters...not much!!, and the tranny is already been recalled twice..r35 is a piece of substandard shit. i personally can design a higher performing less costly vehicle and anyone with mechanical knowhow should spot this "supercar" scam right from the start.
unclesonnyonutube 3 years ago
the r35 isn't maxed out, you can upgrade the turbos. even american companies like Hennessey is making kits for this thing, and are planning to push it beyond 1000hp. they already made a 700hp kit for it called godzilla 700. the transmission issues that you speak of are from idiots using launch control for racing after turning lsd off. they specifically tell you not to turn lsd off, or you void your warranty. yea it's kinda dumb that they even have a switch to turn it off. but thats whatsup
djeasyice 3 years ago
You moron then go constrate. Little stupid bi**h. go drive your impala and imagine thats good car cha cha cha
Attesa45 3 years ago 2
calm down little fella, did someone leave you on the side of the road with a rubber hanging out of your ass like i did to your mother?
unclesonnyonutube 3 years ago
and seriously, who has the chance off a track to go 0-60 in 3.6 seconds safely??? Where i live there is usually traffic (los angeles), so the real question is, would i rather sit in a crappy, poorly decorated interior of the nissan, or a nice classy porsche?? I would choose the porsche (out of all, an Aston Martin DBS). and those cars are EXTREMELY fast in terms of normal cars, so so what, a DBS can only make 4.1 seconds...still faster than the average honda, and i still look good too!!
blakebac 3 years ago
DBS is a class above the 911, 3 classes above the GT-R, and a whole university above the Honda.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
amen to that!!
blakebac 3 years ago
The Nissan is an extremely fast car, but the launch control is sort of cheating when pitted up against cars that don't have that feature. put launch control on a 911, and the Nissan wouldn't stand a chance. It depends on the driver! AND YES! sometimes drivers have bad days and bad laps! The nissan just has no class and looks horrid, and well, its priced cheaply for a reason, it's only going to attract young wannabe's who think they have class because their car is fast! I would buy the Porshce!
blakebac 3 years ago
I'd take the Porsche in a heartbeat, wouldn't even think twice.
hockonvict 3 years ago 4
porsche 911 <3
aatishporsche 3 years ago
hein?
leonef430 3 years ago
wft this driver suck, he didint use the lunch control :S And the Nissan GT-R do 0-100 on 3,5 sek
GreddyMKIV 3 years ago
there are no lunch control now dude in 2009 cars...so..4.0sec(?)
diogopintotarrafa 3 years ago
there is LC,its just that if u use it the warranty is voided
chelseamanuliver 3 years ago
Not anymore. Nissan released an ECU update that modifies the LC and makes its usage covered under warranty.
oNAGAo 3 years ago 4
4,1sec
player1vladimir 3 years ago
911 will beat that little Japanese car on every road or track in this Motherfucking world.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
Really?
Beat it? Go ahead and check all the professional reviews and tests. You couldn't be more wrong.
Little? Go ahead and check all the numbers for the car. It weighs 3800+lbs. Again, very wrong.
oNAGAo 3 years ago
I saw it. It doesn't have a chance agains't 911.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
Open your eyes.
GTR beat 911 Turbo at Tsukuba (Best Motoring)
GTR beat 911 Turbo at Nurburgring
GTR beat 911 Turbo at 5th Gear Track
GTR beat 911 Turbo on Top Gear Test Track
GTR beat 911 Turbo on Reno-Fernley (Car and Driver)
GTR beat 911 Turbo on Buttonwillow (Road and Track)
The list keeps going, and going, and going. You are DEAD WRONG.
oNAGAo 3 years ago
Not on the Nürburgring Nordschleife.
Also it lost in our car magazines.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
Yes, Nordschleife. Nissan
GTR: 7:29
911 Turbo: 7:38
Again, dead wrong. I guess you can cite "our car magazines" as some sort of standard. However, the vast majority of respectable publications and sources have shown the GTR to be a far superior track car. The short list I provided is but a small example.
Your statement that the 911 would beat the GTR on "every road or track on this motherfucking world" could not be more wrong.
You are wrong. Again.
oNAGAo 3 years ago
7:54 Nissan GT-R September 2008 stock vehicle with stock tires
7:55.9 Nissan GT-R Chris Harris November 2008
player1vladimir 3 years ago 3
Are you seriously citing two slower times on the same track as though that trumps the fastest times? Or even if they did hold any significance, that they would negate all the evidence I already presented?
That's just asinine.
Just man up and admit you were wrong. Good grief.
oNAGAo 3 years ago
That time what you putted is fake... Nissan cheated.
Read the drivers republic report
player1vladimir 3 years ago 2
Nissan didn't cheat. You're using one source's opinion. I've seen numerous arguments on either side of the issue. You're going to believe what you believe about the Nissan times no matter what I tell you right now. So I won't bother.
Ignore Nurburgring, if you wish. You have ignored every other track competition thus far, so it wouldn't surprise me. What does surprise me, however, is how you can remain so obstinate in the face of such overwhelming fact contrary to your position. It's baffling.
oNAGAo 3 years ago
Nordschleife was a lie. Also i didn't say GT-R is bad or something like that.
I just said it isn't better then Porshe 911.
player1vladimir 3 years ago 2
I disagree with you on the Nordschleife issue.
And I never accused you of saying it was bad. You did say, however:
"911 will beat that little Japanese car on every road or track in this Motherfucking world."
This was the statement that started our disagreement. This statement was, and still is, completely false. I've proven it. Independent tests have proven it. The facts don't lie. You calling Nissan a bunch of liars doesn't change all the OTHER independent tests on all the OTHER tracks.
oNAGAo 3 years ago
I agree. My 08 Turbo is an awesome car. From a fit, finish, quality of materials standpoint, racing legacy, etc - there is nothing in its league. Nissan designed the GTR to beat it. They too have a long legacy going back to the skyline. Hate to say it, the Nissan is a faster car. Fast has to do with one thing, fast. Nothing else. Nissan has built a great car hear. What would I rather drive - the 911, but rather driving is not the criteria
paddle4121 3 years ago 4
And i still think that 911 is better.
Let us say that the time what Suzuki made with the GT-R is legall what does that means?
It means that Suzuki is a great driver nothing else, If he and only he made such a fast lap around the 'ring and no one can beat it, it means that he is a great driver, not that the car is great, if he drove a 911 he would made even a better time.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
That's fine. You can think it's a better car. That's your prerogative. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID.
You said, and I quote you again:
"911 will beat that little Japanese car on every road or track in this Motherfucking world."
That is a completely false statement. I have proven this to you over and over. Stop being so damn obstinate and admit you were wrong.
What you SAID was not a matter of opinion. It was a matter of fact, and you were completely wrong. Period.
oNAGAo 3 years ago 2
LOL I know what i said.
Porsche is better on the 'ring then the GT-R
Also the 911 GT2 was better on the Top Gear test track.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
The 911 GT2 is a very different car than this one.
And since I'm not going to just sit here and call Nissan a bunch of liars, I'm going to say you're wrong about the 'ring.
And if you know what you said and you read the litany of factual evidence that proves what you said wrong, why haven't you responded to them?
oNAGAo 3 years ago
You said GT-R beated the Porsche 911 turbo on top gear test track... the 911 turbo wasn't on that track.
I will send you a link what shows the truth about the 'ring, read it.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
I just checked the bit about the Top Gear test track. You're right. I was wrong on that one. My bad. For some reason I remember it being on there. Even still, though, it did beat the Carrera GT....
And beyond that, why can't you just admit that your original statement was wrong?
oNAGAo 3 years ago
Heh it beat the Carrera GT on the Top Gear track and lost from the Carrera GT on Nordschleife.
Did you saw the link i gave you?
If i say that it was wrong that would mean that the GT-R is better then the 911 and that would be a lie.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
Yes. By one second.
I got the link. I'm not convinced. Besides, that's not the issue.
You wouldn't not be saying that the GTR is better. You said the 911 would beat it on every track in the world. That's not a true statement. In fact, it's very, very untrue. The GTR has beaten the 911 in almost every single track comparison I have seen. If you admit you were wrong, it only means the cars are competitive.
You need to give credit where credit is due, man.
oNAGAo 3 years ago
One second?
Nissan didn't made a time from 7:29:03 that is a lie.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
You say it is a lie. I say it isn't. It is the officially accepted time. Live with it.
oNAGAo 3 years ago
LOL Porsche says it isn't true, that they have cheated.
player1vladimir 3 years ago 2
And if Porsche says it isn't true, they must be right?
WTF.
Why don't you address all the other times and track tests that prove your initial statement wrong. Why can't you just admit when you're wrong?
oNAGAo 3 years ago
Porsche drivers republic, alot of others experts...
Why should i admit i am wrong? 911 is one of the best cars...
player1vladimir 3 years ago
Porsche is biased, obviously. Drivers republic simply expressed doubt and didn't say for certain one way or the other about ONE TRACK.
Why should you admit you are wrong???
Because you said the 911 would beat the GTR on every track in the world. I've shown you the times and track tests, and that's obviously not true. It's not even a matter of opinion. The 911 has LOST to the GTR on most of the tracks they've been compared on.
The 911 IS one of the best cars, but your statement was wrong.
oNAGAo 3 years ago
They said: we don't know where Suzuki made that big time difference...
player1vladimir 3 years ago
Which means they don't know. Regardless, it's beside the point!
You said the 911 would beat the GTR on every track in the world.
This is clearly FALSE. It is WRONG. It is NOT TRUE. I have shown you track time after track time proving this.
The 911 is a great car. I've never said it wasn't. But your statement that it would beat the GTR on every track in the world is just completely wrong.
Why can't you just admit that??
oNAGAo 3 years ago
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player1vladimir 3 years ago
What??
"911 will beat that little Japanese car on every road or track in this Motherfucking world."
Are actually implying that you meant the entire 911 line of cars?
oNAGAo 3 years ago
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player1vladimir 3 years ago
OMG. You have got to be the most obstinate, asinine, and irrational person I have argued with in a long time.
Let me guess, you meant Honda Civic when you said "little Japanese car", right? That's just fucking stupid.
You and I both know that's not what you meant.
We're done talking.
oNAGAo 3 years ago
LOL kidding haha... but you sent me a message what says this is a 911 GT2 not a Turbo... that was a reply on that.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
WTF is with this name calling?
911 is a great car alot better then the GT-R in every way possible.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
Yes. Except price, but there is a REASON why is costs more.. PORSCHE baby. ;)
TrueCall 3 years ago
Quallity has its price... The truth is Porsche has 20 000€ pure profit on every car they sell... But that makes them one of the richest car makers in the world.
player1vladimir 3 years ago
Stock vs stock, without pumped up press cars to help the GT-R's cause, it will get pumped by a 911 Turbo on any track you care to name.
Steffo290 3 years ago
Look, if you're going to start screaming conspiracy because you don't like the numbers that are showing up, then you're not even worth talking to.
That's absurd. It's a baseless, blanket defense in a sad attempt to discount all numbers that don't line up with your claims.
The GT-R was specifically designed to beat the 911 Turbo, and has done just that. Look at the track times I listed. Look them up yourself. Quit making ridiculous excuses.
oNAGAo 3 years ago