There's gnostic churches that believe Lucifer was the christ, not Jesus. Nothing strange there! To them Lucifer is the good guy, NOT an evil guy.
There were also churches that believed John the Baptist was the christ, and there were other christs as well, as popular as Jesus. And then some didn't accept any christs (like the Jews and the moslims).
In the church of Bysant the Jesus christ sect won, but it wasn't the only view at the time! And it isn't the only view today!
Why is that people can't seem to understand that Lucifer as sen by Masons and other esoteric traditions is NOT the Christian boogeyman lord of Darkness. Alex Jones keeps bringing this issue without understanding WHAT Lucifer is. Lucifer is The SPIRIT at the great heights of the World, Universal Being. STOP demonizing talking about symbols and things you know nothing about Alex Jones (and this goes for every other Christian or secular profane person that does not get the symbolism).
And yes! Lucifer is glorious creator of Light and Love, once you're in direct rapport with it, it will blown your mind with the winds of Gold, light, and Consciousness!
And of course you profane Christians think Lucifer is 'evil' because you're ignorant as to what this symbolism represents, your fellow ESOTERIC Christians know exactly what it is and so should you! Stop looking outwardly for answers and start looking within yourself and go up to the great heights and be consume with the radiance of Consciousness!
what if the book of revelation has already happened.... but not completely if i remember correctly Satan and the false prophet will take their throne and rule the world for 1000 years what if that part has happened already sometime in 11th century or there abouts and jesus coming to defeat Satan for good at the end of redemption be tied in with 2012 and could what what we are experiencing with our governments be a lead up to the final battle between jesus and Satan
People who believe Alex Jones & his theories are just like those who believed Harold Camping (the rapture is going to happen May 21 . 2011).......You idiots are one in the same.......Alex Jones is your Harold Camping.
Forget this religious mumbo-jumbo, end of the world, lucifer, shmusifer. Just live your life, be happy, raise your kids, stand your ground, and help others. What is so hard about that? Why would anyone need all of that extra distraction preventing you from making the most of your life?
Whatever happened to the arrogance and idealism of youth? I have young American friends 23+ and they honestly don't care about what's going in their country. I was talking to one and couldn't get her to care that her president is illegitimate (apparently in both senses). This is a very well educated young woman who's father is a fortune 500 company president. When I was her age I was an idealist and most other young people were. It's sad to see the level of apathy and I'm alright jack...
All regilious fanatics are nuts!! Keep your craziness to yourself. We have no peace because you want to kill in the name of religion. How sick is that-your all full of bullshit.
Fucking religion!! Why do christians feel the need to force their beliefs on other people? So what if this guy loves lucifer! Why does anybody care?? The REAL "EVIL" is religion itself!! Snap out of it people!!
in my opinion, the belief in a god is completely fine. but when you put a name to that belief and try to get other people; who have a right to believe what they want, to join YOUR belief and you even go as far as scaring people into believing that if they dont believe what you believe they are going to hell; i think that you should be tied to a stump and the people you falsely led should be allowed to stone you to death. BECAUSE YOU LEAD BY FEAR, AND GOD LEADS BY LOVE (sounds corny, but true).
@fury350z my point is, we all can believe in god and that is fine.. but once you put a name to your belief, it ceases to be a belief and is now a religion....... and all religions do is seperate the people who are ALL gods children.... if there is a god, then the belief in him doesnt need a name other than faith...... but thanks for commenting on my comment...
@TheRabbit223 I got your point the first time. Your first statement was better. :-) One thing I do want to point out, "god" and religion are one and the same. Let me explain; without the fairytale story in the best selling book, told over so many years, about one particular person and their "miraculous" acts, FAITH religion would never have been. in other words, without the "god" idea, faith religion could not exist.
Why is it ok for regular Christians to use the term "Lucifer" to refer to Satan, but not ok for Masons to use the term to refer to Jesus? NIETHER usage is "scriptural", and it's not like regular-Christians OWN the word. Further more... why are you making such a big deal out of a semantic dispute? That's a stupid thing to argue over.
@Wallhammer1337 exactly..... religion and greed for unlimited money and power over all things are the two main things that hold us back as a race of human beings. the only way to truly move foward as a whole race known as mankind, you need to abolish both of these terms...
@Wallhammer1337 Let's see..... Hitler,Stalin and Mao Zedong(all ATHEISTS) are responsible for over 100 MILLION deaths..... because they saw humans as animals, no more and no less. Salem witch trials=19 dead before CHRISTIANS stopped them.... Spanish Inquisition=5,000 dead...... Crusades= tens of thousands(not MILLIONS). Do some basic math and then tell me who is responsible for more death and destruction in the world.... Christians or atheists.
@mcap52 Ok last time I checked, Christians burnt supposed witches, idk what the fuck you are talking about...Christians didn't save anyone...Crusades, you can defend as as a christian win, but it was still a war over religion and rule. You can assume im an atheist with my comment, I am agnostic..I dont deny a god, i just dont need to pray to him to function in life...churches are not needed, all you need is to have your own opinion and thoughts, not telling the world your religious is right.
@Wallhammer1337 I'm a Christian and agree with most of what you said. No we don't need churches (big buildings), as the New Testament Church met in homes with about 12 people, tops. Also, hats off to you for being wise enough to say you're agnostic rather than atheist. You obviously are wise enough to understand Blaise Pascal's wager. Having said that, as Christians we have a duty to Jesus first and then to humanity to tell them about salvation. We should never try to club people over the head
@Wallhammer1337 The truth is, people should ask us why we're different because we are living good lives and serving others. This is how it should be; but sadly, rarely is. Those who know me, know my beliefs; but not because I bludgeon them with it. Everyone has the right to choose whether they want to follow God or not. Anyone trying to force the issue doesn't have wisdom and are likely pushing them further in the opposite direction. If love isn't my motivation, I should stop.
@Wallhammer1337 they did it in the name of "Christianity". Remember those were "catholics". True followers of Christ's doctrine were persecuted. Study the history of Catholicism before you judge "True Christians". If you dont want to read the bible atleast read your history books so you'll have a bit of a ground for your "thoughts and opinions"
@Wallhammer1337 The crusades were used to gain knowledge from so called "witches", they did the same to shamans of Africa, South indians, Native americans and then slaughtered them. Religion is the biggest controlling force on the planet worshipping the same Babylonian gods and symbols, but people just don't know it.. There have been many many Jesus type figures, its a great story, but a false one. People need to wake up and realise that spirituality is within, religions are pure control!!!!!!!
@mcap52 As an atheist/Agnostic undecided I find your comment quite odd. Atheists follow science which is the reason we know about something now called gravity and we know about some of the physics of the universe. I also see no evidence of god in the world because of all the suffering and misery. Most atheists are good people who just want to live their life in peace with a family and a nice house so please don't attempt to make atheists feel bad just fails completely.
If Lucifer=God, then that would make Freemasons Christians. You might not like terms like "Allah", "Lucifer", or what have you, but... that's just a semantic dispute. If you're all worshiping God, then why not get along.
Religion is so "mind buggered". Usually the event comes before the description. But then again: Earth quake biggus giganticus. Could happen,, any time. hope it's not tomorrow. or today. Maybe next week.
@BrandonTsia Anybody who doesn't want to have to show their papers to some government gang bangers to prove that they are a citizen must be a troll. Use your head man. Please
@NovaJake360 "So what? Keep illegal immigrants out of this country!"
No that isn't the anwer. The anwer is to eliminate welfare. If immigrants, illegal or legal, want to move here to make a better life for themselves or their family I'm all for that.
There's gnostic churches that believe Lucifer was the christ, not Jesus. Nothing strange there! To them Lucifer is the good guy, NOT an evil guy.
There were also churches that believed John the Baptist was the christ, and there were other christs as well, as popular as Jesus. And then some didn't accept any christs (like the Jews and the moslims).
In the church of Bysant the Jesus christ sect won, but it wasn't the only view at the time! And it isn't the only view today!
Aurinkohirvi 9 months ago
That british guy was great.
muzapstar 9 months ago
DAMN
Have you read these comments?!?!?!
It's truly fucking embarrassing how bad you bitches ride Alex Jone's dick.
You idiots are some professional dick riders.
Make no mistake about that.
pffpfpppffff 9 months ago
Why is that people can't seem to understand that Lucifer as sen by Masons and other esoteric traditions is NOT the Christian boogeyman lord of Darkness. Alex Jones keeps bringing this issue without understanding WHAT Lucifer is. Lucifer is The SPIRIT at the great heights of the World, Universal Being. STOP demonizing talking about symbols and things you know nothing about Alex Jones (and this goes for every other Christian or secular profane person that does not get the symbolism).
ShinobiShaw 9 months ago
@ShinobiShaw
And yes! Lucifer is glorious creator of Light and Love, once you're in direct rapport with it, it will blown your mind with the winds of Gold, light, and Consciousness!
ShinobiShaw 9 months ago
@ShinobiShaw
And of course you profane Christians think Lucifer is 'evil' because you're ignorant as to what this symbolism represents, your fellow ESOTERIC Christians know exactly what it is and so should you! Stop looking outwardly for answers and start looking within yourself and go up to the great heights and be consume with the radiance of Consciousness!
ShinobiShaw 9 months ago
what if the book of revelation has already happened.... but not completely if i remember correctly Satan and the false prophet will take their throne and rule the world for 1000 years what if that part has happened already sometime in 11th century or there abouts and jesus coming to defeat Satan for good at the end of redemption be tied in with 2012 and could what what we are experiencing with our governments be a lead up to the final battle between jesus and Satan
seaniekay 9 months ago
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People who believe Alex Jones & his theories are just like those who believed Harold Camping (the rapture is going to happen May 21 . 2011)
You idiots are one in the same
Wake Up -Remove your tin foil hat -
Alex Jones is your Harold Camping
pffpfpppffff 9 months ago
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People who believe Alex Jones & his theories are just like those who believed Harold Camping (the rapture is going to happen May 21 . 2011).......You idiots are one in the same.......Alex Jones is your Harold Camping.
CreepyFukinCrawl 9 months ago
Forget this religious mumbo-jumbo, end of the world, lucifer, shmusifer. Just live your life, be happy, raise your kids, stand your ground, and help others. What is so hard about that? Why would anyone need all of that extra distraction preventing you from making the most of your life?
snarbywrx 9 months ago
jesuit - zionist - luciferian axes powers organized into anti humanity genocidal fourth reich.
thepofmeister 9 months ago
Whatever happened to the arrogance and idealism of youth? I have young American friends 23+ and they honestly don't care about what's going in their country. I was talking to one and couldn't get her to care that her president is illegitimate (apparently in both senses). This is a very well educated young woman who's father is a fortune 500 company president. When I was her age I was an idealist and most other young people were. It's sad to see the level of apathy and I'm alright jack...
BogusDonut 9 months ago
Good ole BeelzeBub.......bub.....
MrBatheros 9 months ago
@MrBatheros Bub... bub? haha
Jnymack123 9 months ago
All regilious fanatics are nuts!! Keep your craziness to yourself. We have no peace because you want to kill in the name of religion. How sick is that-your all full of bullshit.
richco7773 9 months ago
Fucking religion!! Why do christians feel the need to force their beliefs on other people? So what if this guy loves lucifer! Why does anybody care?? The REAL "EVIL" is religion itself!! Snap out of it people!!
fury350z 9 months ago
RAPTURE: Where All Your Stuff Disappears And You Are Left Behind.
History Repeats Itself And Some People Never Learn.
44AlphaMale44 9 months ago
STOP INTERRUPTING! IT'S DOWNRIGHT FUCKING RUDE!
RandyBful1 9 months ago
Professor john esposito, georgetown u, on pbs' need to know. The jesuit propaganda machine chugs along...
artieD12 9 months ago
Read Pat Robertsons "New World Order"
Sugamari 9 months ago
in my opinion, the belief in a god is completely fine. but when you put a name to that belief and try to get other people; who have a right to believe what they want, to join YOUR belief and you even go as far as scaring people into believing that if they dont believe what you believe they are going to hell; i think that you should be tied to a stump and the people you falsely led should be allowed to stone you to death. BECAUSE YOU LEAD BY FEAR, AND GOD LEADS BY LOVE (sounds corny, but true).
TheRabbit223 9 months ago
@TheRabbit223 well said!
fury350z 9 months ago
@fury350z my point is, we all can believe in god and that is fine.. but once you put a name to your belief, it ceases to be a belief and is now a religion....... and all religions do is seperate the people who are ALL gods children.... if there is a god, then the belief in him doesnt need a name other than faith...... but thanks for commenting on my comment...
TheRabbit223 9 months ago
@TheRabbit223 I got your point the first time. Your first statement was better. :-) One thing I do want to point out, "god" and religion are one and the same. Let me explain; without the fairytale story in the best selling book, told over so many years, about one particular person and their "miraculous" acts, FAITH religion would never have been. in other words, without the "god" idea, faith religion could not exist.
Have a good day.
fury350z 9 months ago
@anon3560 agreed....
TheRabbit223 9 months ago
Why is it ok for regular Christians to use the term "Lucifer" to refer to Satan, but not ok for Masons to use the term to refer to Jesus? NIETHER usage is "scriptural", and it's not like regular-Christians OWN the word. Further more... why are you making such a big deal out of a semantic dispute? That's a stupid thing to argue over.
D4Shawn 9 months ago
Religion is not needed for mankind to flourish...it creates seperation, hatred and causes religious wars....abolish religion!
Wallhammer1337 9 months ago
@Wallhammer1337 exactly..... religion and greed for unlimited money and power over all things are the two main things that hold us back as a race of human beings. the only way to truly move foward as a whole race known as mankind, you need to abolish both of these terms...
TheRabbit223 9 months ago
@Wallhammer1337 Let's see..... Hitler,Stalin and Mao Zedong(all ATHEISTS) are responsible for over 100 MILLION deaths..... because they saw humans as animals, no more and no less. Salem witch trials=19 dead before CHRISTIANS stopped them.... Spanish Inquisition=5,000 dead...... Crusades= tens of thousands(not MILLIONS). Do some basic math and then tell me who is responsible for more death and destruction in the world.... Christians or atheists.
mcap52 9 months ago
@mcap52 Ok last time I checked, Christians burnt supposed witches, idk what the fuck you are talking about...Christians didn't save anyone...Crusades, you can defend as as a christian win, but it was still a war over religion and rule. You can assume im an atheist with my comment, I am agnostic..I dont deny a god, i just dont need to pray to him to function in life...churches are not needed, all you need is to have your own opinion and thoughts, not telling the world your religious is right.
Wallhammer1337 9 months ago 5
@Wallhammer1337 I'm a Christian and agree with most of what you said. No we don't need churches (big buildings), as the New Testament Church met in homes with about 12 people, tops. Also, hats off to you for being wise enough to say you're agnostic rather than atheist. You obviously are wise enough to understand Blaise Pascal's wager. Having said that, as Christians we have a duty to Jesus first and then to humanity to tell them about salvation. We should never try to club people over the head
BogusDonut 9 months ago
@Wallhammer1337 The truth is, people should ask us why we're different because we are living good lives and serving others. This is how it should be; but sadly, rarely is. Those who know me, know my beliefs; but not because I bludgeon them with it. Everyone has the right to choose whether they want to follow God or not. Anyone trying to force the issue doesn't have wisdom and are likely pushing them further in the opposite direction. If love isn't my motivation, I should stop.
BogusDonut 9 months ago
@Wallhammer1337 they did it in the name of "Christianity". Remember those were "catholics". True followers of Christ's doctrine were persecuted. Study the history of Catholicism before you judge "True Christians". If you dont want to read the bible atleast read your history books so you'll have a bit of a ground for your "thoughts and opinions"
torski2003 9 months ago
@Wallhammer1337 The crusades were used to gain knowledge from so called "witches", they did the same to shamans of Africa, South indians, Native americans and then slaughtered them. Religion is the biggest controlling force on the planet worshipping the same Babylonian gods and symbols, but people just don't know it.. There have been many many Jesus type figures, its a great story, but a false one. People need to wake up and realise that spirituality is within, religions are pure control!!!!!!!
MrENGLISHBULL 9 months ago
@mcap52 As an atheist/Agnostic undecided I find your comment quite odd. Atheists follow science which is the reason we know about something now called gravity and we know about some of the physics of the universe. I also see no evidence of god in the world because of all the suffering and misery. Most atheists are good people who just want to live their life in peace with a family and a nice house so please don't attempt to make atheists feel bad just fails completely.
heathey2 9 months ago
@mcap52 LOL!! Your figures are wrong!! Extremely FAR OFF!! You might want to check your facts again.
fury350z 9 months ago
If Lucifer=God, then that would make Freemasons Christians. You might not like terms like "Allah", "Lucifer", or what have you, but... that's just a semantic dispute. If you're all worshiping God, then why not get along.
D4Shawn 9 months ago
Religion is so "mind buggered". Usually the event comes before the description. But then again: Earth quake biggus giganticus. Could happen,, any time. hope it's not tomorrow. or today. Maybe next week.
hypnofan35 9 months ago
Not sure but the old dude may be joking....
mrjon75 9 months ago
"THIS IS GREAT! IMGONNA PUT THIS ON THE INTERNET!" -- moron.
therealaj123 9 months ago
The British guy was awesome!
cementium 9 months ago 4
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Chiron282 9 months ago
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pancholordofthecouch 9 months ago
Alex loves the checkpoints!!! Why do you think he supports border control? Alex Jones what a tool.
twn5858 9 months ago
@twn5858 Troll: Spotted.
BrandonTsia 9 months ago
@BrandonTsia Anybody who doesn't want to have to show their papers to some government gang bangers to prove that they are a citizen must be a troll. Use your head man. Please
BrandonTsia <-------------------- Idiot : Spotted.
twn5858 9 months ago
@twn5858 k. thats cool
BrandonTsia 9 months ago
@twn5858 So what? Keep illegal immigrants out of this country!
NovaJake360 9 months ago
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@NovaJake360 "So what? Keep illegal immigrants out of this country!"
No that isn't the anwer. The anwer is to eliminate welfare. If immigrants, illegal or legal, want to move here to make a better life for themselves or their family I'm all for that.
twn5858 9 months ago
@NovaJake360 As long as I'm not forced to pay for it that is.
twn5858 9 months ago
"host of issues" thats what the world has.
JFAINTER88 9 months ago