i hope open maps replaces the proprietary map data in GPS devices - they actually charge you for that data, and it often has errors. It's so backwards, that industry really needs to change it's holding itself back.
Ok it looks cool. And they ask people to log they life on the Net. But how people can collect data? Where those applications or websites are where I can mesh data I want? Have you tried, for example, to look up map of diseases or life expectancy, wealth in Your area? Nope. No data available to public.
mashups are generally client applications or hosted online. In the past years, more and more web application provide APIs that enable software developers to easily integrate data and functions instead of building it themselves. Mashups can be considered to have an active role in the evolution of social software and Web 2.0.
Web 2.0 is more about shared services and user-generated content. He is talking about organizations taking all of that data which they collect and hide away and publishing it on the web. There is a lot of data out there that can be very useful but, up until about 2008, no one was sharing it. If this is really just about web 2.0, then we're seeing new ways to use the tools at our disposal and a new policy of sharing between the individual and the organizations.
In web development, a mashup is a web page or application that uses or combines data or functionality from two or many more external sources to create a new service.
To be able to permanently access the data of other services, mashups are generally client applications or hosted online. In the past years, more and more web application provide APIs that enable software developers to easily integrate data and functions instead of building it themselves. Mashups can be considered to have an active role in the evolution of social software and Web 2.0.
I never had heard of mash ups before but this explains how he presented the data. Thank you. I may not be using the term 'web 2.0' correctly but what I meant was people being open with the data that they collect. I never said there wasn't shared data, and if I did, it wasn't what I meant. I meant that a lot of groups choose not to. My comments were more about the data and not the means of organizing the data for display.
I have an education. I'm a toxicologist and not a computer scientist.
All data til now has been presented by the author/s as how he thinks you need to see or what to see and know. With these kinds of data and viewsets - people can then filter and sort to see what they are most interested in. So the same data can mean lots of different things to different people.
Crazy: it should be. what do vote on now? nothing. How great would a website with voting records and activity of every politician so we could have a real republic. (democracy is not really what we are or were founded on. whole different discussion)
How can anyone that writes like such and asshole call himself 'philosophyman'? Yeah, I can tell by the way you write, your really well read up on philosophy and what the country was founded on.
Also imagine how this idea might effect democracy if more raw footage from political campaigning and government deliberations were made immediately available.
I can't wait until I have a wi-fi, bio-implant up my arse, so that I can twitter my bowel capacity, and mash it up with UK food sales. Happiness is data, man; you're not happy until you've defined your happiness in some kind of JSON format.
Unsung heroes, it is a shame sure. But if it is any consolation to Tim, I care equally as little about Bill. Calling him the father of the internet might be a slight exaggeration though, since we're on the subject. The father of browsing, sure. Father of the internet, no.
I see your point, but you have to differenciate on what exactly you mean.
He did not contribute to the network, by means of developing the system everything runs on, but he invented the general idea of hypertext and linking texts throughout the internet.
So in this matter, webpages and hyperlinks, he is the father of the internet.
not of all computer-networks, but definetly for showing pages and files over the net.
Well sure, the internet has a few definitions, depending on the context. Most simple users only understand the internet to be webpages, often aren't even aware of it's broader meaning and capability. Semantics semantics. Either way, certainly a "fan" of his work, although at times I have been known to break the holy laws of w3. My friend when upgrading a page of mine screamed in horror at my code.
yes semantics... but most people don't even know the difference between semantics and syntax... so this field of semantics, i guess, is going to stay in the dark to them for a long time...
2) i know that feeling... most tools to verify w3c-conformity light up like a christmastree when i start them...
Jaikkanen has made significant improvements this term and shows great enthusiasm in class. However, his HTML is often invalid, unsemantic, and littered with in-line styles and scripts.
this talk is about open data... not about government data...
Your comment is like "using a computer? i only use apple" on that instance... it has nothing to do with open data and is therefor as useful as an arsewhole on your elbow.
if i listened to this presentation through my arsehole, i ask myself, how it comes, that I, as a non-native-speaker, can understand him better through my arsehole, than you can through your ears.
maybe it's because you got your head stuck up your ass.
i understood every single word, he made his points very clear and I don't know why you fail to understand him.. he's fast, yes, but if I can understand him, any native-speaker should with ease...
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Unless you live in America, then Al Gore apparently invented the Internet and then when he realised what an ass-hat he'd just made of himself by saying such a stupid thing, invented a rather convenient story saying he never said such a thing. Just like he's having to do lately regarding the 15 odd years of global COOLING we've just had (hence Global Warming is now known as Climate Change -so they can still crowbar the Carbon Tax into the mix and still make LOTS of money) Tim does stuff for FREE
Strange isn't it? I guess the irony of my statement was lost of them. Al Gore really did publicly state that he invented the Internet. Of course he didn't really, you muppets!!! : D (good job I don't mind thumbs downs isn't it?)
thanks about the video
osama5739 1 month ago
smoothly discussed data..data.data..all about data..
happinesson 1 month ago
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cool stuff .. nice i like it =)) thanks for sharing =)) god bless
jasonmorgan12390 2 months ago
raw data now! .)
aynradd 1 year ago
Open data repurposed for good.
pvecchi 1 year ago
shit. how about this: #buddha
planetdarwin 1 year ago
Lemme test out the new Youtube tagging feature: #taoism
planetdarwin 1 year ago
what does he say at 1:31? it sounds like
"by clicking.... blelksalkjsadlfasdfsaldkfasjk lets get back to 2008"
roidroid 1 year ago
i hope open maps replaces the proprietary map data in GPS devices - they actually charge you for that data, and it often has errors. It's so backwards, that industry really needs to change it's holding itself back.
roidroid 1 year ago
Ok it looks cool. And they ask people to log they life on the Net. But how people can collect data? Where those applications or websites are where I can mesh data I want? Have you tried, for example, to look up map of diseases or life expectancy, wealth in Your area? Nope. No data available to public.
DimitriRytsk 1 year ago
Jittery guy.
dryan22 1 year ago
had a lot to say in only 5 mins.
purv989 1 year ago
mashups are generally client applications or hosted online. In the past years, more and more web application provide APIs that enable software developers to easily integrate data and functions instead of building it themselves. Mashups can be considered to have an active role in the evolution of social software and Web 2.0.
biggerflexible 1 year ago
"...we have only just started."
hardcoded 1 year ago
Fascinating talk as always from Berners-Lee, truly inspiring, with some great information design examples.
thecorcorangroup 1 year ago
Speaking of great open data... has anybody looked into MIT OCW on YouTube? Lot's of free lectures and education to be had!
spinynorman1982 1 year ago
if ANYONE... and I mean ANYONE deserves a nobel peace prize, it is this man, Sir Tim Berners Lee.
YoLninYo 1 year ago
Wow! That was a 30 minute talk packed into about 5 minutes!
I've heard he talks very very fast and apparently that is why there are two slashes after the hutuhtuhpuh...
Hewpie 1 year ago
@Hewpie Informative yes but he is really just talking about Web 2.0.
biggerflexible 1 year ago
I think that's why I failed to grasp a single word he said :D
Hewpie 1 year ago
@Hewpie Just google "web 2.0" and read read.
biggerflexible 1 year ago
Web 2.0 is more about shared services and user-generated content. He is talking about organizations taking all of that data which they collect and hide away and publishing it on the web. There is a lot of data out there that can be very useful but, up until about 2008, no one was sharing it. If this is really just about web 2.0, then we're seeing new ways to use the tools at our disposal and a new policy of sharing between the individual and the organizations.
bwalters 1 year ago 3
You're really ignorant, he showed us Mash-ups.
In web development, a mashup is a web page or application that uses or combines data or functionality from two or many more external sources to create a new service.
biggerflexible 1 year ago
@bwalters
To be able to permanently access the data of other services, mashups are generally client applications or hosted online. In the past years, more and more web application provide APIs that enable software developers to easily integrate data and functions instead of building it themselves. Mashups can be considered to have an active role in the evolution of social software and Web 2.0.
biggerflexible 1 year ago
@bwalters Without universally shared data there is no Mashup no web 2.0. Buy a education.
biggerflexible 1 year ago
I never had heard of mash ups before but this explains how he presented the data. Thank you. I may not be using the term 'web 2.0' correctly but what I meant was people being open with the data that they collect. I never said there wasn't shared data, and if I did, it wasn't what I meant. I meant that a lot of groups choose not to. My comments were more about the data and not the means of organizing the data for display.
I have an education. I'm a toxicologist and not a computer scientist.
bwalters 1 year ago
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Even my dog is not interested... now be nice and fuck off.
andyKCIUK 1 year ago
Rock ON !
VincentBlouin 1 year ago
Remember that episode where Picard found Data's head in 19th Century Earth, and Mark Twain made out with Guinan?
planetdarwin 1 year ago
@planetdarwin YES
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DHS Moblie Brain Scanning Vans. Welcome to the future........ Slaves
watch?v=huj2ntG9MOY
Believe it or not....
If you think naked body scanners were not enough...
You might have too many angry thoughts for our society....
Terra7Q 1 year ago
That video of map updates was awesome! Looked like lightning!
Kargoneth 1 year ago 6
visual data its more powerfull and less easy to lie about. It should be used to evrything.
tenisplayer 1 year ago
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From your friends at Department of Home Land Security... brings you:
DHS Moblie Brain Scanning Vans. Welcome to the future........ Slaves
watch?v=huj2ntG9MOY
Believe it or not....
If you think naked body scanners were not enough...
You might have too many angry thoughts for our society....
Terra7Q 1 year ago
All data til now has been presented by the author/s as how he thinks you need to see or what to see and know. With these kinds of data and viewsets - people can then filter and sort to see what they are most interested in. So the same data can mean lots of different things to different people.
shagster1970 1 year ago
Knowledge is power.
bertly71 1 year ago 4
Nice! love the real time update time lapses! very effective way to show the real effect of this.
libanlibanliban 1 year ago 2
Our Neo-neo cortex is growing exponentially. How long until it is fully integrated with our current grey matter?
kelseywall 1 year ago
Crazy: it should be. what do vote on now? nothing. How great would a website with voting records and activity of every politician so we could have a real republic. (democracy is not really what we are or were founded on. whole different discussion)
philosophyman76 1 year ago
How can anyone that writes like such and asshole call himself 'philosophyman'? Yeah, I can tell by the way you write, your really well read up on philosophy and what the country was founded on.
What a dick you are.
TroddinSod 1 year ago
Also imagine how this idea might effect democracy if more raw footage from political campaigning and government deliberations were made immediately available.
CrazyforCongress 1 year ago
Yes, but who wants democracy?
Certainly not private interest...
cheeseit126 1 year ago 4
I'm so glad that he said "We have only just started." =)
jonathanwong 1 year ago 7
5 stars
apocaRUFF 1 year ago
super cool!
Compact3 1 year ago
Don't do speed before going on stage.
StrikerTheLizard 1 year ago 2
lol
Compact3 1 year ago
I can't wait until I have a wi-fi, bio-implant up my arse, so that I can twitter my bowel capacity, and mash it up with UK food sales. Happiness is data, man; you're not happy until you've defined your happiness in some kind of JSON format.
Valelacerte 1 year ago
LOL ahahah
farhmoha 1 year ago
nerd LOL xD
kriptonis 1 year ago
proud of people providing open data.
boqallaf 1 year ago
Twenty cups of coffee before bounding on stage.
MorganStack 1 year ago
At least it'd be more easy to prove corruption in government, as they'd be bound to make mistakes when fabricating the data they'd release.
ErikNikolai 1 year ago 2
This guy needs to relax and take a breath, because I cannot understand a word he is saying.
Jaikkanen 1 year ago
"this guy" is considered to be the father of the internet, for developing html and giving it away for free and is also the founder of W3-Consortium...
noone would call Bill Gates "this guy"... and he did actually invent nothing, and give away for free even less...
it's a pity, that one of the most important people of the past decades is so unknown to the world...
liquidminds 1 year ago 5
Unsung heroes, it is a shame sure. But if it is any consolation to Tim, I care equally as little about Bill. Calling him the father of the internet might be a slight exaggeration though, since we're on the subject. The father of browsing, sure. Father of the internet, no.
Jaikkanen 1 year ago
I see your point, but you have to differenciate on what exactly you mean.
He did not contribute to the network, by means of developing the system everything runs on, but he invented the general idea of hypertext and linking texts throughout the internet.
So in this matter, webpages and hyperlinks, he is the father of the internet.
not of all computer-networks, but definetly for showing pages and files over the net.
liquidminds 1 year ago 2
Well sure, the internet has a few definitions, depending on the context. Most simple users only understand the internet to be webpages, often aren't even aware of it's broader meaning and capability. Semantics semantics. Either way, certainly a "fan" of his work, although at times I have been known to break the holy laws of w3. My friend when upgrading a page of mine screamed in horror at my code.
Jaikkanen 1 year ago
yes semantics... but most people don't even know the difference between semantics and syntax... so this field of semantics, i guess, is going to stay in the dark to them for a long time...
2) i know that feeling... most tools to verify w3c-conformity light up like a christmastree when i start them...
liquidminds 1 year ago
@liquidminds No "in this matter" makes him the father of the World Wide Web.
Vinton Cerf is the father of the Internet.
Leobons 1 year ago
got me on that. thx for the correction.
liquidminds 1 year ago
@Jaikkanen no. deport people like you.
zeffii 1 year ago
"Boohoo he isn't acknowledging Tim's greatness, I am going to overreact and send a mean comment" - zeffii
Don't start fights zeffii, liquidminds was maybe condescending at most (hard to tell) but civil. Think twice before you post a comment.
Jaikkanen 1 year ago
Jaikkanen has made significant improvements this term and shows great enthusiasm in class. However, his HTML is often invalid, unsemantic, and littered with in-line styles and scripts.
Must try harder. "C"
Valelacerte 1 year ago
I lol'd.
Jaikkanen 1 year ago
this thread needs a meta tag.
kriptonis 1 year ago
cool
kid29a 1 year ago
Trusting US/UK government data? I'd sooner trust my horoscope.
flyhead2 1 year ago
keep that tinfoil hat on
HaunterV 1 year ago
@flyhead2 Or the tea dregs :P
TheBigRedTom 1 year ago
this talk is about open data... not about government data...
Your comment is like "using a computer? i only use apple" on that instance... it has nothing to do with open data and is therefor as useful as an arsewhole on your elbow.
liquidminds 1 year ago
@liquidminds
Try listening to the presentation again, this time not through your arsehole.
flyhead2 1 year ago
if i listened to this presentation through my arsehole, i ask myself, how it comes, that I, as a non-native-speaker, can understand him better through my arsehole, than you can through your ears.
maybe it's because you got your head stuck up your ass.
i understood every single word, he made his points very clear and I don't know why you fail to understand him.. he's fast, yes, but if I can understand him, any native-speaker should with ease...
liquidminds 1 year ago
good stuff.
showABCshow 1 year ago
very cool
bamboo4tameshigiri 1 year ago
those light-point time maps are fucking amazing... *gets transfixed* :O
theFAParchives 1 year ago
Old guy is sharp.
Arcaani 1 year ago
*stares* O.O
I dunno why but I LUV this hahah xD
theFAParchives 1 year ago
Tim Berners-Lee is the most underrated inventor in the world
tommyk77 1 year ago 20
what did he invent?
florencelovme 1 year ago
The world wide web. You might have heard of it :-P
tommyk77 1 year ago
The internetz.
Throred 1 year ago
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Unless you live in America, then Al Gore apparently invented the Internet and then when he realised what an ass-hat he'd just made of himself by saying such a stupid thing, invented a rather convenient story saying he never said such a thing. Just like he's having to do lately regarding the 15 odd years of global COOLING we've just had (hence Global Warming is now known as Climate Change -so they can still crowbar the Carbon Tax into the mix and still make LOTS of money) Tim does stuff for FREE
TheHolySpirit 1 year ago
The world wide web and the internet aren't the same thing. DARPA invented the internet and Tim Berners-Lee invented the web. Look it up!
SpunkMaster3000 1 year ago 4
Thanx alot for all the info - I dont live in America but I hope I will manage to get there in the near future.
I guess not alot of viewers agree w/ you though..youve got 3 thumbs down for some reason.
florencelovme 1 year ago
Strange isn't it? I guess the irony of my statement was lost of them. Al Gore really did publicly state that he invented the Internet. Of course he didn't really, you muppets!!! : D (good job I don't mind thumbs downs isn't it?)
TheHolySpirit 1 year ago
haha! sure is :D
florencelovme 1 year ago
@florencelovme he's getting thumbed down because he's an idiot who thinks global warming isn't happening.
roidroid 1 year ago
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This is why old people shouldn't use computers.... this, and Pat Condell.
IH8WRONGPPL 1 year ago
Pat Condell = PWN
You = PHAIL.
GegoXaren 1 year ago 9
lol, who ever taught you how to spell = child abuse.
IH8WRONGPPL 1 year ago
IH8WRONGPPL
You are an ignorant twat, if you think that just because someone uses slang spelling, that they must have been abused as a child.
PHAIL=Internet speak for fail... so you sir, have illustrated your own fail...
Enjoy
TheReasonWhyGuy 1 year ago
@IH8WRONGPPL, you do know who Tim Berners-Lee is with regards to computers and the Internet, don't you?
TheHolySpirit 1 year ago 3
hmmmm
chulo4lyfe 1 year ago