woop!, we watched this in our GCSE History lesson!! we were given the lyrics:)!, now all of us ask to watch it every lesson, then hav it in our heads for the rest of the week!! is it just me or does Christopher Eccleston look so much younger although it was after doctor who!! :)
i saw it in ma r.e lesson too and now i am writin a report letter on capital punishment but i am also using real life evidence such as this young lad 19 year of age.
Del bentley was hanged in revenge for the shooting of pc miles...Chris Craig pulled the trigger but was too young to hang so the old bill fitted up del bentley....bentley was under arrest for a full 20 minutes before pc miles was shot but was still on the roof of the warehouse and being held onto by detective sergeant Fairfax
we have been learning about this case in english, we had an exam on it, and listening to this song really helped! the song stayed in my head for ages!
this story is soo sad, it just goes to show how shit our justise system was back then! i think that the three policemen who swore his life away by saying that he said those fatal words should of been hung!
Bentley never ever ever ever said those words, but was still killed!
I was 16 when our English teacher gave us this song for an exam..We got to listen to it, she gave us some background, and we had to explain what we felt. She was great as a teacher, and this is a great song. We came out of the exam eager to find out what actually had happened and, in my case, totally in love with Elvis Costello.
i saw this in Drama cos we've been working on it!! we've had to do the bits from when derek and chris were on the roof and we had to do the scene where derek was being hanged. Oh yh, and the court room scene!!
Thanks so much for putting this together. I learnt of the case in my teens when the song and the film came out within two years of each other. The song and the footage match perfectly.
doing this in drama, i love the song its so catchy even if its about something so terrible. great vid :) cant believe derek got hung for saying let him have it and chris got ten years for murder cuz he was underaged, so not fair
He was hung By Albert Pierrepioint....his drop was precise...it had been many years since any drop was so badly calculated that it resulted in decapitation - about 100 years I understand...although occasionally one would strangle...not reported in this case.....and no I am not in favour of capital punishment
Well, littleemopony, if you go to exactly 3min 38sec, you see what appears to be his chest or waist at the same level of the hem of his trousers (bottom of his trousers) That's all I can say, but I could be over-interpreting the sequence.
You may have to get the DVD & run it step by step. I guess its a minor point. Great sad movie, anyway. Here in the States, especially Texas (where they execute about 20 people a year), capital punishment is a plague, IMO. Cameron Todd Willingham was unjustly executed in Texas in 2004. The Governor, who might face jail if its shown Willingham was unjustly executed, recently fired members of a commission when they were about to prove the original investigation was seriously flawed. Sicko.
It's disgusting. I'm glad it was abolished here in England. I think it should be abolished everywhere. It's completely hypocritical and, at the end of the day, murder, which, in some cases, you are prosecuting against! It makes no sense. Good riddance to the death penalty in England, I say.
He's not decapitated, but very close to it. The British drop tables, and the departures the executioners made from them, brought the fracture dislocation dangerously close to decapitation.
Ten or so interred bodies of hanged murderers were exhumed in the 1990s as part of an unrelated study, and the pathologist who examined what little was left came to the above conclusion.
Doesn't it sound terrible when you talk about it like this? They try to say we used that method because it was "the most humane" but it's not very really is it?! At least with a lethal injection they just fall asleep, if it works and they don't mess up the doses or the criminal doesn't turn out to be allergic to one of the drugs they are using I can't believe people actually call for bringing back long drop hanging, if more people knew exactly how horrible it was I bet they wouldn't.
Nancy: I would argue that if more people, including you, knew exactly how horrible the true reality of Lethal Injection is then you wouldn't even mention it. Lethal Injection is a horrific, drawn-out, inhumane spectacle that masquerades as a medical operation, making it all that more disgusting. At the end of the day, you are executing a criminal, and you can't disguse the ugliness of it. British hanging was efficient, terrifyingly-so, but it's better than waiting 40 mins on a gurney in Florida.
It is a very lethal combination of anaesthetics and sleepers so it should kill them pretty fast if it goes according to plan ie. they don't misjudge the criminals weight and get the doses wrong or something like that.
And for what it's worth I don't believe anyone should get capital punishment no matter what they've done, no matter how "humane" the execution method is. Hope my previous comments didn't give you the impression I am pro capital punishment.
What I was meaning was that yes, in theory Lethal Injection would work fine as a method, but that its current application in the US leaves a lot to be desired. Can't speak for China because they are every bit as secretive with regards to their DP as we were.
And no, didn't get that impression at all. I'm about 60-40 in favour personally. I tend to think that there are certain crimes and certain people that truly merit it.
@DeepSixed300 ITA measured long drop is way more humane than Lethal Injection - see the movie 'Pierrepoint'. Correctly done the execution takes seconds with minimal pain. Lethal Injection looks more palatable for those executing the condemned but is not easier or quick for the condemned themselves.
@Isobel31Swan You're preaching to the choir; British Hanging is the only method of execution I agree with. I personally think Lethal Injection, in its American application at any rate, is horrific.
when the executioner arrived at the prison,the guvenor gave him the prisoners height,weight,and age,the executioner then calculated the lengthof the drop based on this,some fine tuneing albeit,thick neck heavy bones etc allowed the executioner to fine tune it an inch or two either way,to guarentee instant death
Quick point for all you guys at school studying this, be it for RE or English or Media Studies or whatever, as there is a glaring lie in the end credits to LHHI.
The abolition of the DP in the UK for murder in '69 was not the result of any "public outcry" as a result of any execution, be it Bentley's or any of his contemporaries; it was instead the result of a campaign by a small but well-connected liberal pressure group who had the ears of the 1964 Labour government under Harold Wilson.
But Bentley's family were involved with that pressure group and were present in the house of lords and commons throughout the debate, they petitioned against the death penalty at speakers corner and gained overwhelming support. It just sucks that they weren't alive to see derek's full pardon.
pierrepoint is a hero, yea he has been given controversial jobs like hanging ruth ellis and derek bently, but he was doing his job and if I was found guilty for murder, that I did do of course I would only struggle if they handed down anything below hanging. that's the way I'd like to go, through judicial murder of course. heck, I wouldn't mind at all being a hangman. and it ain't just pull a pin, push a lever. you have to look into their eyes, strap them, and put the noose around their neck too
Yeah, there are two sides to it the likes of Ian Huntley deserve to be hung in fact Id give him a few less inches on the rope!
But be careful about using the Timothy Spall film to form an opinion on Pierrepoint it was very good, but he was nothing like that. A lot of people who met him found him quite sinister including a fellow hangman who saw him fly into a rage when a prisoner was reprieved it had been a long time since a hanging and Pierrepoint needed his fix
I'm guessing Syd Dernley, but he only ever saw his rage with regards to his treatment by prison staff. Your story of rigging the gallows and then flying off the handle after hearing it was in vain just smacks of outright bullshit unless you can cite the incident and criminal.
And for the record, the majority of people who met him and/or worked alongside him held him in the highest regard.
True, but this specific case was a great injustice.
Ive just been reading a biography of Harry Allen, Britains last hangman, who assisted Pierrepoint in the execution, and even he petitioned the home office not to go through with it. Pierrepoint showed indifference though.
According to his assistant, Goddard, who was the judge at the Bentley case, used to have an orgasm while handing down the death sentence and his trousers used to have to be sent away for cleaning.
Goddard also helped save Dr John Bodkin Adams from the noose a few years later (Adams was basically an earlier Harold Shipman but upper class and wealthy) by hand picking the judge and prosecutors in his case and convincing police to misplace evidence. In other words, he was bent.
we listened to this song in drama cause we had to act it out and even though it`s a horrible thing to sing of most of us found it sounded funny and everyone was singing it for the rest of the day but after actually watching this i don`t find it funny anymore and it shows how unfair prejudice and biased people can be i don`t think bentley deserved being hanged either
and they said this was british justice derek bentley was innocent and chris craig himself has said that bentley never even said 'let him have it' thats what the british police were like in the fifties bu lets be honest have things changed since then
read the book by his sister iris bentley.(let him have justice) it tells a lot more about how the police lied to get bentley hanged and how the system just wanted a scapegoat to balance the books so to say!!!...r.i.p del.
If this film was true word for word on the roof, Derrick clearly warned the police that Chris Craig had a gun. That would kind of give evidence that "Let him have it, Chris!" meant give him the gun. I feel so bad for Bentley.
I know, I feel sorry for Bentley. But you just can't be sure by what he meant. I personally believe he meant give him the gun, but it does refer to shoot him. We can't say for sure, but yeah I believe he meant it that way.
Im British and i dont care what i say now, 'Blame the fkin 'Her Majesty's Pleasure' the useless cunt, the way to show poor Derek die it's so sad, the creator wanted to show sympathy, then 1998, Derek was cleared.
Shame on the British Justice system for this and for the Timothy Evans case as well. There was another police officer on the roof that night who was never called to give evidence because he maintained that Bently never said those words. The police officer's name was Claude Payne. That poor family.
The saddest thing about the film is that it is true, and the fact that Derek Bentley's sister spent her whole life proving that Derek was inocent. He recived a royal pardon to say that he was killed for an unfair reason.
I can't believe I have to write an essay about this song! It's driving me insane! I've listened to it at least 50 times already and I'm still not done!
I watched this movie in RS and then our teacher put this song on repeat for the whole lesson, it was stuck in my head for the rest of the day... grrr!
The film was excellent, however this song is so fucking shite, i had to sit through this almost screaming to turn it of. i thought this guy was a great and talanted singer...but when i heard this...well he sucks lol
"He was equally guilty and you can see it." He was guilty of nothing more than being mentally retarded and easily led. Your view is one of what Justice used to be about. The doctrine of 'constructive malice' was abolished because it was and still is wrong and inaccurate.
Bentley was armed with a knife and knuckleduster.. did he use them ? no. The only reason he was hung was because some was to pay ? Technically he was hung for burglary? Death penatly for someone who had the iq of 66? you talk some crap.
i just did this in english for SAT's watched full film it was realy good i could'nt beleive it after that this is based on a true story i searched derek bentley on google and that. anyway good video .
you should all the read 'let him have justice'. I don't know how anyone with half a brain cell can think he was guilty. It proves it that this case helped to abolish the death penalty altogether.. and people who agree with it happening are just as bad as chris craig himself.
I'm doing it for my coursework so I'm glad there's decent clips here I can use to put towards it (we're toying with the idea that after derek's hung and it pans up the rope into the light that his soul is going to heaven and as naive as it may seem I'd like to think that's what did happen - I don't think after watching the film anyone would think he was guilty, Medak did a good job and Costello's song is great too so I'm glad you put them both together!) xx
We're working on the phrase 'Let him have it' in my drama class and we were 1st shown the lyrics of the song then told the story. I though the song would have been sort of sad and mellow... It's much too happy for what it's based on. Anyways, we get to watch it class next week, YAY!
If only. The doctrine of presumed innocence is still enshrined within our legal system. However, cases such as this one proves that often people go to court presumed guilty. From the minute Lord Goddard was instilled as the presiding judge the outcome was obvious. The man [LG] was never about actually getting justice. He was too caught up in the whole sentencing to death thing.
Oh, and by the way, an excellent job in creating a video to what ought to have been the second single from Costello's mighty "Spike - The Beloved Entertainer" album (the record company's bottle crashed).
The 'handshake to calculate weight' story was one of the urban legends that went around Albert Pierrepoint, Bentley's executioner. Clive Revill's portrayal of Britain's most prolific hangman has proven easily the best, especially when compared to Timothy Spall's dreadful version. Pierrepoint and his assistant Wade had sat up the night before the execution listening on the wireless to the Commons debate, expecting the reprieve that never came. One of British justice's blackest moments.
They never shaked hands to calculate the weight at all, they viewed the condemned prisoner the day before execution, thus enabling them to calculate the weight.
@FuryRainbow Same here :D
blackaddermaniac1467 2 weeks ago
I saw it in my English lesson.
FuryRainbow 1 month ago 3
God I love Elvis Costello
GayGeisha 1 month ago
Im using the story of Derek B as a stimulus in drama...Makes me feel sick, he didnt deserve any of it :'( <3
Morgana450 2 months ago
Our History teacher showed us this in class. :)
Shaestel 2 months ago
woop!, we watched this in our GCSE History lesson!! we were given the lyrics:)!, now all of us ask to watch it every lesson, then hav it in our heads for the rest of the week!! is it just me or does Christopher Eccleston look so much younger although it was after doctor who!! :)
KLCurtiss 3 months ago
@KLCurtiss
doctor who was in 2005
this film was 1991
the song was 2007
i think youre confusing the film for being the music video
halocinema1 3 months ago
@halocinema1 i know i relealised after i posted, but i still love the video:) we watched again in my last history lesson:)!
KLCurtiss 3 months ago
i saw it in ma r.e lesson too and now i am writin a report letter on capital punishment but i am also using real life evidence such as this young lad 19 year of age.
pavi5678 8 months ago
@magicalice10 same. Its so depressing......
MrHalodude779 8 months ago
Del bentley was hanged in revenge for the shooting of pc miles...Chris Craig pulled the trigger but was too young to hang so the old bill fitted up del bentley....bentley was under arrest for a full 20 minutes before pc miles was shot but was still on the roof of the warehouse and being held onto by detective sergeant Fairfax
colinclarke1000 8 months ago 4
Christopher Eccleston is great.
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magicalice10 9 months ago
we have been learning about this case in english, we had an exam on it, and listening to this song really helped! the song stayed in my head for ages!
this story is soo sad, it just goes to show how shit our justise system was back then! i think that the three policemen who swore his life away by saying that he said those fatal words should of been hung!
Bentley never ever ever ever said those words, but was still killed!
He died an innocent man, with a caring heart.
magicalice10 9 months ago 2
I was 16 when our English teacher gave us this song for an exam..We got to listen to it, she gave us some background, and we had to explain what we felt. She was great as a teacher, and this is a great song. We came out of the exam eager to find out what actually had happened and, in my case, totally in love with Elvis Costello.
redkarl73ivan 9 months ago
I think the killing of derek bentley was just wrong, i think the little chris graig fucker shoulda died instead... >=]
lovelysongbuh 10 months ago
Omg! this film is ace;)
love the end bit;) 'should have killed that fucker as well'!
i think paul reynolds was cute;)
xxrachelandsellyxx 10 months ago
I saw the film in english, and heard the song in drama. The film is really good, and the song is really catchy.
chipsANDbeansWoRtHiN 11 months ago 2
Saw this in geography, nice one
lovfootball4eva 11 months ago
good job
hairlessbaldy 11 months ago
keep it there, let Guns be awful in your mind
SapphireM 1 year ago
We watched this in Drama today. So bloody powerful.
xloveloveloveable 1 year ago
i watch this in history aswell today
kirbystarball3 1 year ago
he watched your video in history today :D
evildogheretic 1 year ago
I watched this during drama after wards I had to go to the nurse because I couldn't breath.
DawnBerlitz 1 year ago
Fucking wrong.
MrMegalolz666 1 year ago
i saw this in Drama cos we've been working on it!! we've had to do the bits from when derek and chris were on the roof and we had to do the scene where derek was being hanged. Oh yh, and the court room scene!!
PebblesDave 1 year ago
@PebblesDave Same :) :)
DecadenceRock 1 year ago
@DecadenceRock cool. wot school do u go to??
PebblesDave 1 year ago
@PebblesDave HRS
DecadenceRock 1 year ago
@DecadenceRock cool :)
PebblesDave 1 year ago
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DecadenceRock 1 year ago
@DecadenceRock Is this dave rock??
DecadenceRock 1 year ago
i saw this in english class
rhys8197 1 year ago
Thanks so much for putting this together. I learnt of the case in my teens when the song and the film came out within two years of each other. The song and the footage match perfectly.
barttheanorak 1 year ago
I saw this in English
gLiTtErGuRlY 1 year ago 4
I saw it in History
NottighamPanthers05 1 year ago 13
@NottighamPanthers05 same
nottinghampanthers01 1 year ago
@NottighamPanthers05
i saw it in english
TownGimp 10 months ago
@NottighamPanthers05 i saw it in drama :p
SuperSonic6461 2 months ago
I also saw this in RE
theboxticker 1 year ago 4
it has to stop, Be fair todfay
SapphireM 2 years ago
doing this in drama, i love the song its so catchy even if its about something so terrible. great vid :) cant believe derek got hung for saying let him have it and chris got ten years for murder cuz he was underaged, so not fair
booshfreak 2 years ago
ftw i watched it in history wid r teacher
Theancienthiveship 2 years ago
we watched this in english the series and someone saw your vid so we put it on its pretty good
tomnpeople 2 years ago
Thanks for putting this vid up, we watched it in my R.E lesson this morning, and i thought it was great.:)
fantasyIXdevout 2 years ago
I'm sure your facts are right. It just looks like he was decapitated in the film. I'm with you on capital punishment.
Google Cameron Todd Willingham.
filthyphillyboy 2 years ago
At 3min 37sec, is his head separated from his torso? Sorry, not trying to be gross, but thats how it appears.
Excellent job of juxtaposing the images and dialog of the film with Elvis Costello's song, by the way.
filthyphillyboy 2 years ago
He was hung By Albert Pierrepioint....his drop was precise...it had been many years since any drop was so badly calculated that it resulted in decapitation - about 100 years I understand...although occasionally one would strangle...not reported in this case.....and no I am not in favour of capital punishment
SapphireM 2 years ago
filthyphillyboy, I don't see what you mean...?
littleemopony 2 years ago
Well, littleemopony, if you go to exactly 3min 38sec, you see what appears to be his chest or waist at the same level of the hem of his trousers (bottom of his trousers) That's all I can say, but I could be over-interpreting the sequence.
filthyphillyboy 2 years ago
Filthyphillyboy, I still can't see it, so I'll have to take your word for it, lol! :P
littleemopony 2 years ago
You may have to get the DVD & run it step by step. I guess its a minor point. Great sad movie, anyway. Here in the States, especially Texas (where they execute about 20 people a year), capital punishment is a plague, IMO. Cameron Todd Willingham was unjustly executed in Texas in 2004. The Governor, who might face jail if its shown Willingham was unjustly executed, recently fired members of a commission when they were about to prove the original investigation was seriously flawed. Sicko.
filthyphillyboy 2 years ago
It's disgusting. I'm glad it was abolished here in England. I think it should be abolished everywhere. It's completely hypocritical and, at the end of the day, murder, which, in some cases, you are prosecuting against! It makes no sense. Good riddance to the death penalty in England, I say.
littleemopony 2 years ago
He's not decapitated, but very close to it. The British drop tables, and the departures the executioners made from them, brought the fracture dislocation dangerously close to decapitation.
Ten or so interred bodies of hanged murderers were exhumed in the 1990s as part of an unrelated study, and the pathologist who examined what little was left came to the above conclusion.
DeepSixed300 2 years ago
Doesn't it sound terrible when you talk about it like this? They try to say we used that method because it was "the most humane" but it's not very really is it?! At least with a lethal injection they just fall asleep, if it works and they don't mess up the doses or the criminal doesn't turn out to be allergic to one of the drugs they are using I can't believe people actually call for bringing back long drop hanging, if more people knew exactly how horrible it was I bet they wouldn't.
nancyrowina 1 year ago 2
Nancy: I would argue that if more people, including you, knew exactly how horrible the true reality of Lethal Injection is then you wouldn't even mention it. Lethal Injection is a horrific, drawn-out, inhumane spectacle that masquerades as a medical operation, making it all that more disgusting. At the end of the day, you are executing a criminal, and you can't disguse the ugliness of it. British hanging was efficient, terrifyingly-so, but it's better than waiting 40 mins on a gurney in Florida.
DeepSixed300 1 year ago
It is a very lethal combination of anaesthetics and sleepers so it should kill them pretty fast if it goes according to plan ie. they don't misjudge the criminals weight and get the doses wrong or something like that.
nancyrowina 1 year ago
And for what it's worth I don't believe anyone should get capital punishment no matter what they've done, no matter how "humane" the execution method is. Hope my previous comments didn't give you the impression I am pro capital punishment.
nancyrowina 1 year ago
What I was meaning was that yes, in theory Lethal Injection would work fine as a method, but that its current application in the US leaves a lot to be desired. Can't speak for China because they are every bit as secretive with regards to their DP as we were.
DeepSixed300 1 year ago
And no, didn't get that impression at all. I'm about 60-40 in favour personally. I tend to think that there are certain crimes and certain people that truly merit it.
DeepSixed300 1 year ago
@DeepSixed300 ITA measured long drop is way more humane than Lethal Injection - see the movie 'Pierrepoint'. Correctly done the execution takes seconds with minimal pain. Lethal Injection looks more palatable for those executing the condemned but is not easier or quick for the condemned themselves.
Isobel31Swan 1 year ago
@Isobel31Swan You're preaching to the choir; British Hanging is the only method of execution I agree with. I personally think Lethal Injection, in its American application at any rate, is horrific.
DeepSixed300 1 year ago
No, correctly measured long drop hanging just snaps the neck and spinal cord causing instant death not decapitation.
mercdriver 2 years ago
@mercdriver it's referred to as an 'internal decapitation'.
Isobel31Swan 1 year ago
this is a really great vid, and i want it as my "featured vid" on my channel but pootube won't let me! god dammit :(
777system777 2 years ago
when the executioner arrived at the prison,the guvenor gave him the prisoners height,weight,and age,the executioner then calculated the lengthof the drop based on this,some fine tuneing albeit,thick neck heavy bones etc allowed the executioner to fine tune it an inch or two either way,to guarentee instant death
blade0954 2 years ago
Chris Craig was a dam good shot!
777system777 2 years ago
Great song
1.50 any London School at the moment ,lol
stevie301271 2 years ago
Whats the movie called I would like to watch it
00kadz00 2 years ago
Let Him Have It
stevie301271 2 years ago
Amazing film. Bentley & craig are quite hot lol. but thats not the point. In my opinion he shouldnt have been hanged
LucyIsANerd 2 years ago
Just remembered this song, must have been about 20 years since I last heard it, no shit. Great song, very powerfull
kortyu 2 years ago 3
we are doin it in englishh :)
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Good Song, crap film.
FALLOUTDUDE94 2 years ago
Quick point for all you guys at school studying this, be it for RE or English or Media Studies or whatever, as there is a glaring lie in the end credits to LHHI.
The abolition of the DP in the UK for murder in '69 was not the result of any "public outcry" as a result of any execution, be it Bentley's or any of his contemporaries; it was instead the result of a campaign by a small but well-connected liberal pressure group who had the ears of the 1964 Labour government under Harold Wilson.
DeepSixed300 2 years ago 2
But Bentley's family were involved with that pressure group and were present in the house of lords and commons throughout the debate, they petitioned against the death penalty at speakers corner and gained overwhelming support. It just sucks that they weren't alive to see derek's full pardon.
pollyharrington 2 years ago
were doin this in english, was actually quite a good film!
butty94 2 years ago 2
We're doing this in Drama too and our teacher showed THIS video in class!! lol Well Done though, cool video =D
PrincessOfDarkness42 2 years ago
im doin this for drama as well its a very sad topic
dhrumi123 2 years ago
i keep singing it .. funny
stevencarter123 2 years ago
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dhrumi123 2 years ago
I had this song in my head for months.
LennieMelvin 2 years ago 35
@LennieMelvin same
puckle18 1 year ago
Same!
magicalice10 10 months ago
ur doing this in RE? ?? ?? ?? ? im doing this for my Drama coursework lol =]
stevencarter123 2 years ago
YAY paul reynolds!!!
*ahem*
LennieMelvin 3 years ago
we're doin that in drama
lilee360 3 years ago
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LennieMelvin 3 years ago
pierrepoint is a hero, yea he has been given controversial jobs like hanging ruth ellis and derek bently, but he was doing his job and if I was found guilty for murder, that I did do of course I would only struggle if they handed down anything below hanging. that's the way I'd like to go, through judicial murder of course. heck, I wouldn't mind at all being a hangman. and it ain't just pull a pin, push a lever. you have to look into their eyes, strap them, and put the noose around their neck too
1000FeatheredOwl 3 years ago
Yeah, there are two sides to it the likes of Ian Huntley deserve to be hung in fact Id give him a few less inches on the rope!
But be careful about using the Timothy Spall film to form an opinion on Pierrepoint it was very good, but he was nothing like that. A lot of people who met him found him quite sinister including a fellow hangman who saw him fly into a rage when a prisoner was reprieved it had been a long time since a hanging and Pierrepoint needed his fix
Dessan01 3 years ago
And who was this "fellow hangman" ?
DeepSixed300 2 years ago
I'm guessing Syd Dernley, but he only ever saw his rage with regards to his treatment by prison staff. Your story of rigging the gallows and then flying off the handle after hearing it was in vain just smacks of outright bullshit unless you can cite the incident and criminal.
And for the record, the majority of people who met him and/or worked alongside him held him in the highest regard.
DeepSixed300 1 year ago
i bet they never laughed and joked in court like these wangters do now after killing someone
grahamcoles1966 3 years ago 2
True, but this specific case was a great injustice.
Ive just been reading a biography of Harry Allen, Britains last hangman, who assisted Pierrepoint in the execution, and even he petitioned the home office not to go through with it. Pierrepoint showed indifference though.
Dessan01 3 years ago
According to his assistant, Goddard, who was the judge at the Bentley case, used to have an orgasm while handing down the death sentence and his trousers used to have to be sent away for cleaning.
Goddard also helped save Dr John Bodkin Adams from the noose a few years later (Adams was basically an earlier Harold Shipman but upper class and wealthy) by hand picking the judge and prosecutors in his case and convincing police to misplace evidence. In other words, he was bent.
Dessan01 3 years ago
what lovely, merry things they let us write about for our english coursework.
its so awful when he gets hung!
good job with the video though.
StripyKneeHighSocks 3 years ago
Cool.
NVR1800 3 years ago
omg i watched dis movie in english 4 mii media coursework... and its so so sg i have 2 do a reveiwe 4 mii coursework:s lool
i lked it so so much...
Derek soooooooo shouldnt of bn shot!!!!
xxDanielleStevensoxx 3 years ago
:) well i hope you do well in your media class but i think you'll fail, because he got hung...not shot???
Jamesd125 3 years ago
You should be shot for butchering the English language.
partgas 3 years ago
we listened to this song in drama cause we had to act it out and even though it`s a horrible thing to sing of most of us found it sounded funny and everyone was singing it for the rest of the day but after actually watching this i don`t find it funny anymore and it shows how unfair prejudice and biased people can be i don`t think bentley deserved being hanged either
i think i`ll shut up now
Chelsea6789 3 years ago
i also saw this in RE it was so wrong what happened am glad we got ride of the penalty in the UK
fionadonnan 3 years ago
chris craig is alive and is in his 50's he got 10 years in prison
honeybee124 3 years ago
I want to know if Christopher Craig is still alive. Hes the one that should of hung instead of Derek Bentley.
Studying this atm :)..
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xDoodleWaltzax 3 years ago
hi i think that craig is still alive
and he is apparently a law abiding citizen
worldbystorm15 3 years ago
craig is still alive and living in bedfordshire he took a lie detector test in 1984 and swore that bentley never said let him have it
thenewmodfather 3 years ago
and what did the test show up
catherinefan32 3 years ago
if what i read was right then bentley never said let him have it the police made it up just to get a conviction
thenewmodfather 3 years ago
1991...
Kevinasp 2 years ago
iwatched it this week, he got 10 years
his bro got 12
iris fought till she died a few years ago tpo preve he was innocent....
it only got confirmed after she died
and they have new evidence, it wasnt chris that killed miles, it was another policeman , by accident
Myspaceaccount5 3 years ago
oh and by the way to the people argui ng about whether it was 10 or 12 years
i think it was christophers craig's brother who was sentenced to 12 years
and him only for 10
worldbystorm15 3 years ago 2
i also watched this film for my year 10 english coursework
its very good
worldbystorm15 3 years ago
i loved this film. i has to do an essay on it for my english in yr 10.
this film is awesome. it really showed me how serious ww2 was and how badly it affectly the famillies!
i really didnt think derek deserved the hanging though, it wasnt his fault!!!!!
Underestimatedemo 3 years ago 3
bleak
duffyissokwl 3 years ago
ya know... its a terrible case but the biggest victim is Sidney Miles :'(
smashedcatt 3 years ago 5
@smashedcatt What? Are you serious? He was a copper! lower than a dog.
777system777 1 year ago
Nice ending :D
Lol
BredonUrieLovesJade 3 years ago
The police wanted someone to pay and derek bentley was the man. This is 1 of the worst miscarriages of justice in britain !
omarthearab81 3 years ago 5
they put craig away for life and 10 years later he was out
jackloobyloo 3 years ago
12 years
glynhoyland 3 years ago
it waz 10 years
fisha002 3 years ago 2
get it right mate it was 12
glynhoyland 3 years ago
errrrr no it waz 10
fisha002 3 years ago
It was 12 years
It might of been his brother that got 10 years
BredonUrieLovesJade 3 years ago
no craig got 10 years and then he waz relaised all the articals and web sites say so and i have been studying it for 2 years xx
fisha002 3 years ago 2
It was Niven that got 12 years, Chris got 10 years.
extrapreneur 3 years ago
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themisale 3 years ago
Try feeling sorry for for Sidney Miles? But I don't suppose feeling sorry for a murdered policeman is very fashionable is it?
digglyda 3 years ago 16
the shool the lads went to is near to where i live
Krapuniverse 3 years ago
and they said this was british justice derek bentley was innocent and chris craig himself has said that bentley never even said 'let him have it' thats what the british police were like in the fifties bu lets be honest have things changed since then
thenewmodfather 3 years ago 2
chris dident say derek dident say let him have it
glynhoyland 3 years ago
yes he did in 1983 he said it in an interview on tv and he claimed that derek bentley never said let him have it
thenewmodfather 3 years ago
almost every country world has made this mistake loads of times
glynhoyland 3 years ago
i saw this in drama there when i was in school there should be more killings in it
archie19942008 3 years ago
we watched this film in english to do for a gcse exam.. and i hated the court room bit.. i was literaly sick!
:(
EmmaLouiiseee 3 years ago
read the book by his sister iris bentley.(let him have justice) it tells a lot more about how the police lied to get bentley hanged and how the system just wanted a scapegoat to balance the books so to say!!!...r.i.p del.
newtonwarriors 3 years ago 2
I think that is the most stupid execution, EVER! Derek only said four words and didn't kill anyone yet Chris shot a police officer! Stupid!
PivotTraineeXP 3 years ago 4
If this film was true word for word on the roof, Derrick clearly warned the police that Chris Craig had a gun. That would kind of give evidence that "Let him have it, Chris!" meant give him the gun. I feel so bad for Bentley.
MRB360 3 years ago
I know, I feel sorry for Bentley. But you just can't be sure by what he meant. I personally believe he meant give him the gun, but it does refer to shoot him. We can't say for sure, but yeah I believe he meant it that way.
hwfalliance 3 years ago
Im British and i dont care what i say now, 'Blame the fkin 'Her Majesty's Pleasure' the useless cunt, the way to show poor Derek die it's so sad, the creator wanted to show sympathy, then 1998, Derek was cleared.
Eagles4eva 3 years ago
Shame on the British Justice system for this and for the Timothy Evans case as well. There was another police officer on the roof that night who was never called to give evidence because he maintained that Bently never said those words. The police officer's name was Claude Payne. That poor family.
woofer32 3 years ago 2
Yes, to think that it took years, till then d
Derek's sis died the year before the clearing of Derek :( Shame on 'Her Majesty's Pleasure'
Eagles4eva 3 years ago 2
they charged derek only because Chris was not old enough...
but derek had a mental age of 11 so technically chris was mentally older
such a sad case
jake0020 3 years ago
Derek also was epileptic
Tchis05 3 years ago 2
The saddest thing about the film is that it is true, and the fact that Derek Bentley's sister spent her whole life proving that Derek was inocent. He recived a royal pardon to say that he was killed for an unfair reason.
jamie3223 3 years ago
I can't believe I have to write an essay about this song! It's driving me insane! I've listened to it at least 50 times already and I'm still not done!
darksideofthemoo 3 years ago
Its Silly that Derek Went Down... They Didn't Take In The Fact He Had A Mental Age Of 11.
Chris Craig Was Let Off After 10 YEars.
morphewj 3 years ago
I watched this movie in RS and then our teacher put this song on repeat for the whole lesson, it was stuck in my head for the rest of the day... grrr!
ScottishBandGeek 3 years ago
I'm doing this as a drama performance, its a really sad play...its really depressing and our ending makes everyone cry!!
xxjollygooodxx 3 years ago
same! i love this film!
cchamp999 3 years ago
IS this song in the film? And where can I get it from?
Blustu 3 years ago
no its not
iiLYJohnnyDepp 3 years ago
i saw this is an re lesson too. the film was so sad. but i really cants stand the song..
(let him dangle..do do do doo)
oliviaheehah2 3 years ago
Watched the film in english for coursework. Its so sad but the worst part is that its true.
The song is so cheesy and very shite!
Brermouse 4 years ago
The film was excellent, however this song is so fucking shite, i had to sit through this almost screaming to turn it of. i thought this guy was a great and talanted singer...but when i heard this...well he sucks lol
freakaknight 4 years ago
Watched this in drama was alright i suppose :|
Blindshooting 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Im sure if Bentley had the gun he would of shot aswell. and he wasnt exactly an innocent man. so he deserved it.
He was equally guilty and you can see it.
The dealth penalty should be brought back because now adays criminals have nothing to fear. thats why britains no1 for crime.
full of dirty inhumane teenage Rebels!
Hotfuckingwhat 4 years ago
"He was equally guilty and you can see it." He was guilty of nothing more than being mentally retarded and easily led. Your view is one of what Justice used to be about. The doctrine of 'constructive malice' was abolished because it was and still is wrong and inaccurate.
ASLOAN02 4 years ago 2
Bentley was armed with a knife and knuckleduster.. did he use them ? no. The only reason he was hung was because some was to pay ? Technically he was hung for burglary? Death penatly for someone who had the iq of 66? you talk some crap.
And F.Y.I Britain isnt no1 for crime.
Up yours truly :)
xoxpenguinxox 4 years ago 6
it is a sad sad story killed for somthing he did not do
Lordo2468 4 years ago 5
i just did this in english for SAT's watched full film it was realy good i could'nt beleive it after that this is based on a true story i searched derek bentley on google and that. anyway good video .
JordanWeeks2007 4 years ago 2
you should all the read 'let him have justice'. I don't know how anyone with half a brain cell can think he was guilty. It proves it that this case helped to abolish the death penalty altogether.. and people who agree with it happening are just as bad as chris craig himself.
DellieC 4 years ago
I'm doing it for my coursework so I'm glad there's decent clips here I can use to put towards it (we're toying with the idea that after derek's hung and it pans up the rope into the light that his soul is going to heaven and as naive as it may seem I'd like to think that's what did happen - I don't think after watching the film anyone would think he was guilty, Medak did a good job and Costello's song is great too so I'm glad you put them both together!) xx
Hellomynameisbecca 4 years ago 2
lol
same as
whats it for ?
mines for drama
xoxpenguinxox 4 years ago
same same lo...atm just writing an essay on it lol..like for what the devises used in it lol. wb
vanter6 4 years ago
Yeah i'm doing that right now
its such a sad story
it kidna give me the creeps that i'm acting out something that actually happened....
haven't seen the film but the song is in our performance
SarahLovesBass 4 years ago
We're working on the phrase 'Let him have it' in my drama class and we were 1st shown the lyrics of the song then told the story. I though the song would have been sort of sad and mellow... It's much too happy for what it's based on. Anyways, we get to watch it class next week, YAY!
I still do think that Bentley was innocent!
LyzabethSay 4 years ago
Im doin this in ma english class @ tha mo. My teacher sed i culd become a lwayer! He's innocent until proven guilty!
Hnddg7 4 years ago
If only. The doctrine of presumed innocence is still enshrined within our legal system. However, cases such as this one proves that often people go to court presumed guilty. From the minute Lord Goddard was instilled as the presiding judge the outcome was obvious. The man [LG] was never about actually getting justice. He was too caught up in the whole sentencing to death thing.
ASLOAN02 4 years ago
Oh, and by the way, an excellent job in creating a video to what ought to have been the second single from Costello's mighty "Spike - The Beloved Entertainer" album (the record company's bottle crashed).
markboylepotb 4 years ago
The 'handshake to calculate weight' story was one of the urban legends that went around Albert Pierrepoint, Bentley's executioner. Clive Revill's portrayal of Britain's most prolific hangman has proven easily the best, especially when compared to Timothy Spall's dreadful version. Pierrepoint and his assistant Wade had sat up the night before the execution listening on the wireless to the Commons debate, expecting the reprieve that never came. One of British justice's blackest moments.
markboylepotb 4 years ago
this is my favorite film of all time. both ledgends! bently was inncoent!
ilovebradleyneville 4 years ago
They never shaked hands to calculate the weight at all, they viewed the condemned prisoner the day before execution, thus enabling them to calculate the weight.
JRGrange25 4 years ago
I've been watching this in my english lessons, and I'm now writing an essay about it, like a practice GCSE. It's quite hard actually. x
cazzie1993 4 years ago
I watch this in My english lessons.
And this is a true story. he was epleptic. His sister faught the government saying that he wasn't guilty.
n1cks0an 4 years ago
Awesome! You couldn't ask for better than that. Too bad the hangman in the scene did not shake Bently's hand to calculate the weight :)
TonyTuthill 4 years ago