CHRISTIANITY doesn't believe that gays to Hell. I've been a Christian my entire life and I don't believe for a second that gays go to Hell. Lots of Christians do believe that, but Christianity as a religion doesn't. The Bible does not say "gays go to Hell." It says things like "do not murder" and "do not steal." Not that though
Who ever just made the comment who can take you seriously if your can't spell hypocrite. Dude your a dumbass for the fact that you have. The audacity to even say shit like that just means you have a major problem with the topic. And also you spelt some wrong words of your own in your comment hunny;) your hypocritical cunt. Jeez saying how can people take him seriously idfk how can people take Brock Obama seriously? Seeing how he doesn't know his left from his right. Besides that dude who made t
thats right i agree with everything he said... WTF man they teach u in church that u shouldn't Judge correct??... Well WTF do u think that u r doing when u r saying that gays r going to hell and that they shouldnt be on this planet... ur fucking judging.. soo in that case i just guess everyone is going to Hell.....
Why do you hate Christians? You will soon find out there is a God, because the Bible compares life to a vapor here one minute and gone the next. I hope you got something from that. God Bless and even if you hate God He loves you Remember that.
I actually disagree with Ted Haggard strongly. However, you did a terrible job responding. Keep the witty responses to intellectuals ok? Your feeble attempts embarrass us gay intellectuals.
The point you made about changing your life's course because something doesn't match up with a book is just so refreshingly human. It is testimonies like this that end up having good impact.
I feel yah man, I get pissed sometimes about christianity but, I am all for individuality if someone hates gays thats on them i don give a shit fuck gay bashers but see thats my opinion my moment of individuality because, i know like i said in my previous post that most chirstians are hypacritical to their own religion but its ok i think they should have the right to hate. If it wasn't for hate we wouldn' have individualism after all we all are what we are because of hate right?
I agree... evangelical christians should climb on their crosses and die; burying their prejudices with them.
[By the way, Artax... gays aren't the 'next' target of genocide... 200,000 gay people were fed into the gas chambers with the Jews in Hitler's Germany. But you're right... there's not a lot of difference between Bush's fundamentalist-religious neo-cons and nazi Germany, is there.]
Christians push their agenda constantly and try to shove their views down everyone's throats by getting laws changed. Where have you been? Are you a retard?
Not every Christian hates gay people. I am a gay Christian and sometimes I feel like everyone hates me. PREACH LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE even to those who dont love you. Yes it is hard to do, but at least try. Why do you have to hate ignorant people? We should be sad that they are that way. I read what Jesus preaches and he does not say anywere to hate anybody. The whole premise for hating gay people in the church comes from his disciples not him.
Ok honestly. The church is losing power. It is not becoming the "third reich (sp)" for gods sake. And your studdering doesnt bother me but your constant swearing does because you cant seem to try to get a point across with out being pissed off. But I do agree with you on the Ted haggard thing =p
yes!! The whole bible is a contradiction. Double talk. God doesn't exsist... millions of years ago people didn't have explanations for ''natural occurrences in nature'' and as time went on they blamed some ''higher power''.. ''God is angry, they sky is rumbling and flashing with his mighty thunder bolts.!!'' uummm no, that's called a rain storm. bbaaaaahahahahahaha
i agree to a degree. just the 'crazy, we're gonna shove it down your throat and hate everything that isn't right according to a book that doesn't even prove that some cloud named god exists' people.
you used quotes for Christian ... I did NOT say i think Christians are assholes.. I DO think evangelicals are... Heres my belief ... Religion is ok, just dont knock on my door and tell me about yours!!!!
you are exactly who i was telling jexfrey about! you're one of those fucking assholes who will be part of the fourth reich!! fuck you and your beliefs!! i don't even care what you believe or who you are!! fuck you!! self-righteous, aryan, pig fucking bastard!!
i agree. it's dumb to argue over it. we won't get anywhere. haha. and gay isn't bad. just differnet and we should just accept it. it's not hurting anyone.
its only hurting God. which is horrible. He destroyed a whole city because of homosexuality... but any way.. on to something else. we obviously beleive very differently and if we keep goin it will never stop...
I am not saying that the bible does not say that, all I was refuting was the fallacy that we are the same just having faith in different things. And I agree let's stop
Am I supposed to feel sorry for you because your friends would rather do something with their lives that they believe in than hang out and drink beers with you? You are just as prejudiced against Christians as Haggard is about gays, the only difference is he a hypocrite.
Very well done. Don't worry about your speaking style; any empathetic person will know you speak openly, honestly and without pretense.
Like you, I think it's crazy to derive moral guidance (or an understanding of our place within the cosmos) from an arbitrary book of bronze-age mythology handed down over the generations as dogma. It's still worse to do so in our modern age of scientific method and access to vastly more knowledge than those alive 1500 years ago ever had.
Yeah, the "dark age" of science and reason. I'd much rather live in a world dominated by a lie made up 2000 years ago in order to obtain mass control.
sooo agreed! i am not Christian, however i do believe the religion itself preaches good, and it is fucktards like the people who run jesus camp that mess things up and misconstrue Christian teachings and make the world hate them because they are intolerant imbeciles!
put down the joint and gather your thoughts.... i know, i know.... jeasus loves you this i know, for Jeasus Camp the movie, coming soon to dvd, tells me so
Why do you think he has a joint...I just think he is wery shockt...wery shockt about how sick the christianity makes many people.If it's good for you.."hurray" but hold it for your self don't start a jesus camp yourself...And tell me...who told you it was wrong to be gay?..your parents?
And you know what, if jesus excisted he had hated fantick people like those in jesus camp..thats what I think but I'm not force you to belive it.just think about it ;)
kipnepi, i agree with you on some points. homosexuality is an extremely touchy subject for me, my brother is gay, and very anti-social because of people like ted haggard, that cock-suckin(oh, the irony) sonofacunt. i beleive another extremely forstanding reason why evangelicals are such cuntfaces, is their inability to co-exist with other religions, preferences, and ethnisities. essentially, they are arrogant cunt-fuck shitbags who should all burn in hell (medaphorically)
The first five seconds of this video was all that was necessary. Fuck it indeed. American Nationalism + Christianity + FOX News = the biggest threat to global security since the 1930s.
I tend to think that Muslim Extremists+No regard for the sanctity of human life+willingness to die= the biggest threat to global security, but when you put it that way, your opinion makes SO much more sense.
Except: Muslim extremists are generated by American expansionism and oil greed. They are also insane. The perpetrators of, for instance, the 7/7 bombings, were essentially lone nutters, people who were lonely, disaffected. They do not control nations of 300,000,000, they don't have nuclear weapons and they aren't the world's biggest trading partner. So, yes, it does make more sense.
OK. It goes like this: America, the most powerful country in the world, nuclear armed, is devoutly Christian. It's enemies are devoutly Muslim, and they have oil, which America wants. FOX news broadcasts essentially propaganda, which lends a false credence to whatever the right wing government wants. The invasion of Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11, is just the first example.
America is far from being devoutly Christian. That would imply that the majority of Americans not only claim to believe the Bible, but that they live in accordance with the Bible, which is VERY rare (Haggard being an example) Second, if we were in the Middle East for oil, we wouldn't be paying up the ass for it right now. Third, Iran has nuclear weapons, and it doesn't take 300,0000,000 people to use a nuclear weapon.
The "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy applies here. It doesn't matter that the Christians in America don't follow the Bible properly or well, it just matters that they believe in it and think that policy should be generated around it, and that Islam is a threat. I also doubt that the US government anticipated the amount of time and money to be spent there. Indeed, if you look on it now, they seem positively naive.
And who told you Iran has nuclear weapons? That's actually incorrect. They have nuclear power stations, and some people think that they could develop nuclear weapons from the enriched radioactive matter at the stations - that's the threat. It's not that they have them already.
everyone's welcome! i commend RexTrek! America is for everybody! the world is ours! we share it so don't be dueschbags! haha. thanks for all your guys' support on this.
i dont hump the bible. but if u would just think about the logic of it. the parts dont fit 2gthr unless ur going thru the asshole which is disgusting.but if ur a girl that dont work either. just think about it! it dont take a rocket scientist!
i didnt take it literally i no its just a sayin but hey! i mite as well piss you off! but yeah im used to ppl hatin me so wuts one more person? specially sum1 like you???
like me? i'm one of the few people in this world that are able to except the fact that there is NO higher power and that we are on our own to do as we please. many people as well as myself don't feel that we should limit our lives to a set of standards and rules dealing with some falacy that someone created back in time.
you are one of the few people who will die by falling off a cliff and on the way down will plead "God help me!" it is in every man that wen they are dying or in need look to God even if they are so ignorant as to say there isnt a God. why? because God made them n the only one who can help them in the last feeble attempt is their creator!
im not tryin to pull nothin on you. just tellin you the truth! so how do u think Adam and Eve were created? from their parents? only they were the first people on earth so that doesnt work... explain that one to me if you can in your distorted ways..
i don't believe there was adam and eve or god or anything. i'm more inclined to believe the big bang theory. evolution also. are you one of those idiots that doesn't believe dinosaurs existed?
no there prolly was dinos. but there still had to be a first human. who was it? evolution is just another beleif just like god is. so why do you hate christians so bad wen you just beleive differently? i dont hate you or anyone... i just feel sorry for you wen your time comes to die..you will then realize your mistke.
there's no mistake to be realized. and i don't hate you. and i don't hate all christians. just the extremist ones that are bastards about everything that's not in 'god's plan'. if you know what i mean. the ones that try to jam it down your throat. i'm sorry i was being rude. it just aggrivates me.
im sorry. your wrong. there is plenty of evidence of God. the bible is one for instance.evolution is a THEORY. even the smartest scientists call it a theory cuz its only wut they beleive not what they know. its about time you realized that.
You what... there's is a mountain of evidence for evolution but no evidence for the bible... big woop man wrote fictional book over ex amount of years. Evolution has been proven if you took the time to read the books you would see that!
evolution has not been proven. why do they call it a theory then? evolution did not happen. its just a way for people to keep God out of the picture and not give Him any credit. these people will pay for thier mistakes wen their time comes.
the bible hasn't been proven either! don't pull the same reel on torimorph as you did me. that's not fair. and to us when we say oh my god or whatever it's just a word. which is all your god is to us...a word. there is no proof that there is a god. it's just a safety blanket so you and others can sleep better at night. and it sucks for we who realize that there is no possible way there's a god because there are all sorts of rules and standards in our world that have to do with your beliefs.
how is there no possible way there is a god? you dont make sense. and also your intellect mite think its just a word but your heart knows who made you. (God) if there is no such thing as God then why do you even say it? u wouldnt say it if there was no such thing. why dont u say oh my mom or sumthin that -you think- exsists.(assuming you have a mom) if you would just take your head out of your ass you would understand and just admit u beleive in God.
You're a dumb ass if you don't understand the cultural influences on humans. Like swearing god is just a way of expressing oneself in a culture, doesn't have anything to do with belief just what you've heard when people are in situations just like swear words they are a curse from when my family was christian in the bad old days of forced religion. This is year 9 science stuff go get educated moron!
oh dont call me that its makin me sad. not! and im plenty educated. the bible is leading to war? how is that? oh and how is it reducing free speech? and woman are not equal to men. its just the way it is. also gays shouldnt get rights they dont deserve em. n dont say they were born like that cuz God dont make mistakes. they just couldnt get a girl (or guy depending on ur sex) so they had to go fag.
you wanna know what her means when he says that it reduces free speech? saying fuck, shit, damn, etc...is socially unaccepted by the religious communities. and why? to hold pure the existance of the one true god? fuck off! let us talk the way we want! it's sad that this country was founded on religion and that it holds some disgusting power over the country. we don't have to live by your fucked up standards! p.s.! splitplanet32 is a badass and i admire him/her!!
That's got to be the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard. In your bible which is wrong it say's god made man in his image. So therefore god is a transsexual, bi curious person with cancer and all the other problems known to man...
2) Not so great now is he. If he existed that would be the only fair way, since he doesn't and we were all made though the mutation of genes imperfections show up all the time. Being gay isn't an imperfection, if people are then that's just the way they are! It has been shown in flys there is a single gene that if changed will change the sexual orientation of that fly. In humans it is more complex but it's inbuilt!
god made MAN (adam) in his image. he made him perfect. then God made Eve from Adam takin one of his rib bones. wen Eve tempted Adam into eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Adam (like the name of the tree) became aware of good and evil and became ashamed of himself. therefore not perfect any longer as humans are 2day. were far from perfect. the only perfect person on this earth was jesus who died for imperfect man.
4) To get back to freedom of speech, if Ted Haggard had of come to the church as a gay would he have got to his position ,I think not. His freedom of speech would have been withheld, so he had to lie!. What about the freedom of speech of the evolutionists. They are told there message should not be shown in schools. How about when I go court, I am made to swear on a bible, god is not part of the government and never should be!
5) The war thing I said, well christianity if you look though history has been used to justify more war then any other religion. People thinking they're more moral because they live by a book are dangerous! And what about in Northern Island, the Middle East, Israel, I can think of countless religious wars, yet not so many not thought on religion. The war on terror is yet another example of religious extremists! So don't tell me it doesn't!
yes but are these wars about religion? maybe sunwere else in the world but not america. name one war that occured because of christians. and wen you cant think of any, just say i give up cuz theres not been even one!
The Sixth Christian War-The Thirty Years War 1618 -1648
The crusades, Northern Island, Hitler was a roman catholic who killed millions of Jews, that's war with religious influences, And George bush uses it to justify every bad decision he makes so don't give me that. Look it up!
im talkin about christians not jews, or roman catholics. and how does george bush use it? by sayin oh im a christian thats why i did that.. or that.. no. maybe about homos or abortion but thats not a bad decision. its about morals.
jexfrey: 'wen Eve tempted Adam into eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Adam (like the name of the tree) became aware of good and evil and became ashamed of himself', roman cathlics are christians, they believe in christ, and yes george bush uses 'under god' all the time!
Another point George W was voted in by christians + in america it is illigal for atheists to be voted to a position of office in 7 states! Therefore if the christians voted in a war lord then christianity caused war... the voting system in america is not a fair one!
They couldn't get a girl or guy? You've never heard of girls who are absolutely in love with their gay guy friend? You've never heard of a gorgeous lesbian that has to fend off all the guys dying to get into her pants at a bar?
Your head's so far up your own ass you could give yourself a fucking visual prostate exam.
well fuck you. i do have a mom. and she's the greatest mom in the world because she never tried to push this bullshit on me. and my intellect is obviously higher than yours because i can spell my words much better and more efficiantly. and as i said before, i was made by my parents! nobody else. if you want to believe you're the bastard son of some mythical being then go right ahead but DON'T you dare sit there and try and convince me otherwise! so you take your head out of your ass.
Excuse me... Evolution has been obscured in the lab... did you even bother to look for the evidence... there is no such much evidence for evolution but not an ounce in favour of a so called god! Ok I saw this video the other day claiming species had not changed therefore there must be a god... that's not evidence, species do not necessarily change, if there is a need to evolve they will. + Life on earth is billions not millions of years old! IDIOT!
Also to answer the original point in science things are known as a theory until proven otherwise, so far everything has pointed to evolution being correct so therefore it remains a theory. Go read a book stupid!
i no wut a theory is thats why i said its not been proven. the only reason why some animals have one same feature as humans is cuz god wanted em to. how do u think the first person if not animal was made? you think it just all of the sudden appeared? i dont think so. God made them for humans to eat and live off of. your the stupid one. time to take your head out of your ass!
You what? your telling me your going to ignore all the evidence.... it's been proven ... nothing has shown it to be false and it has been seen to happen that's proof also there is a ton of evidence. I hate to tell you this but there is no god... just a bunch of dangerous propaganda in a book leading to war, reduction of free speech, less rights for woman, gays etc... and the slow down of scientific research, all in the name of these fascists. Go read a book stupid!
How is the bible evidence of G-d? It's a book. Written by people. And don't feed me the "it was written by G-d" line. Arguably inspired, but the hands and minds that wrote the book were Man's.
I have never seen a copy of the Bible with a by-line. "The Bible by Yahweh" Nope. Doesn't exist.
only thing i can ask you is...do u ever say"oh my god"?or"God, ur a dumbass"or sumthin like that.ppl say they dont beleive in god yet they use his name everyday. also, in the last minutes of ur life, if u are suffering i can guarentee u will say "god help me" or sumthin to that effect because he was your creator and deep inside ur heart n soul(u may not know it but ur heart does)u will find out that the only one who can help u is ur creator.BUT he wont help u because u never beleived in him.
You assume a lot. I never said I didn't believe in G-d. And I'm a Jew so according to a bunch of fundamentalist Christians, I am one of the "chosen people". How convenient. Anyway. This is going to be the most basic of flames, but it's really hard to take your arguments seriously when you don't even bother to check your spelling and grammar and when I have to put up with "u"'r bad net lingo.
no ur not one of the chosen ones. just a stray lost person. n im sorry i dont feel like spellin all my words. why dont u go to some geek site were they will all spell rite n proper? screw you.
No my culture made me say that, just like everything what people say around me influencing what I say, if I like it not. I come from a christian area there are 5 churches within a mile of my house, no other organisation has this kind of power. There is no god and no afterlife. Making the most of my spark of consciousness is all I have so making the most of this life is the most important thing to me.
Reading this over, this entry pisses me off the most. The only "evidence of God" is abiogenesis. That is a hypothetical term for life being spontaneously created out of inorganic material. Science says that they do not know how abiogenesis would work. So there, if you're that hasty, you can pin it on "magic man", but you cannot pin it on the christian god. A god, yes. But not the christian god.
And a theory is not a stupid guess. A theory is held by facts and the facts support the theories. Gravity is a theory. It's about time you get out of the hick-ridden south.
The problem isn't religion or God, whom I do believe exists. It's what these so-called "Christians" do in God's name to distort God's word to fit their own agenda. Many stories of the Bible are preached out of context as I come to see in a short time recently. Forinstance, the story of God destroying Sodom, suppossedly because the inhabitants were "gay"
as many preach. Using a couple verses Gen. 19:4-11 to back-up their claim. Yet, look up this scripture that seems forgotten Ezekiel 16:49-50.
For real man!! There is no god!!!! Get the fuck over it!!!! I am my own god, I am the ruler of my own destiny. If you don't believe the same thing about yourself, you have been seriously mislead. You control your own life... period.
(Continued) The problem in this country is not the gays or anything like that.... It's religion!!! It's religion that turns everybody against everybody. As far as I'm concerned, if your a part of any religion that would allow you to kill someone in the name of god is a fucking crock of shit! Fucking sheep go back to your Shepard or grow a brain and and join the rest of society!
Germany is awesome! I'm from Belgium, little country between Netherlands and France (an hour driving from Paris). I study at the university of Ghent and I'm gay! Nobody makes a problem of it here, even gay-marriage is legal here.
Too bad, their citizenship laws are racist. If someone is born and raised in a nation they should be allowed to become a citizen. Ethnicity should not be a requirement.
Thank you for proving my point. Many say that aids is a product of gays, the truth is that almost 90 % of the HIV-infected people are heterosexuals. This point is proven by the birth of hundreds of aids-infected kids in Africa EVERY DAY.
CHRISTIANITY doesn't believe that gays to Hell. I've been a Christian my entire life and I don't believe for a second that gays go to Hell. Lots of Christians do believe that, but Christianity as a religion doesn't. The Bible does not say "gays go to Hell." It says things like "do not murder" and "do not steal." Not that though
gamer0unreleased 1 week ago
Who ever just made the comment who can take you seriously if your can't spell hypocrite. Dude your a dumbass for the fact that you have. The audacity to even say shit like that just means you have a major problem with the topic. And also you spelt some wrong words of your own in your comment hunny;) your hypocritical cunt. Jeez saying how can people take him seriously idfk how can people take Brock Obama seriously? Seeing how he doesn't know his left from his right. Besides that dude who made t
xXemoskullXx 4 months ago
Nice hairdo...
obdami 1 year ago
thats right i agree with everything he said... WTF man they teach u in church that u shouldn't Judge correct??... Well WTF do u think that u r doing when u r saying that gays r going to hell and that they shouldnt be on this planet... ur fucking judging.. soo in that case i just guess everyone is going to Hell.....
YLB212 3 years ago
Why do you hate Christians? You will soon find out there is a God, because the Bible compares life to a vapor here one minute and gone the next. I hope you got something from that. God Bless and even if you hate God He loves you Remember that.
nikBGulsby 3 years ago
Yea! GO nikBGulsby! God is Christian! So we all should be Christian! CHRISTIAN! CHRISTIAN! CHRISTIAN! YEAA!!.........lol
Rastapulse 2 years ago
you have a great sense
uclaxlhuang 4 years ago
omg...thank you...fuck all those haterswho hate gay people...btw...your hott...
kawai96720 4 years ago
sooo. how long have you been going to church?
assmonger221 4 years ago
hmmm well i agree in a way
ok lemme say this
anti gay religions are hipocriatical
-oh what was that- yeah that was one of your oh so important commandments
"thou shalt not judge"
hmmmm think about it are you judging?
now now
shame shame
mishathedrummerjab 4 years ago
I actually disagree with Ted Haggard strongly. However, you did a terrible job responding. Keep the witty responses to intellectuals ok? Your feeble attempts embarrass us gay intellectuals.
nrlsky 4 years ago
go you tell them
clarencefields2007 4 years ago
Who are you? haha shut it frosty
lawheaduno 4 years ago
wow thats mature kid
lemme tell you something i could rip your religion to shreads if i wanted to
you have so many faults in your "RELIGION"
its just a way for you to hate and get away with it
would this god want you to hate
i think not
mishathedrummerjab 4 years ago
The point you made about changing your life's course because something doesn't match up with a book is just so refreshingly human. It is testimonies like this that end up having good impact.
thetani 4 years ago
I feel yah man, I get pissed sometimes about christianity but, I am all for individuality if someone hates gays thats on them i don give a shit fuck gay bashers but see thats my opinion my moment of individuality because, i know like i said in my previous post that most chirstians are hypacritical to their own religion but its ok i think they should have the right to hate. If it wasn't for hate we wouldn' have individualism after all we all are what we are because of hate right?
KingCobra5889 4 years ago
Don't be angry at angry people. God loves you just the same.
justwatchingyours 4 years ago
I agree... evangelical christians should climb on their crosses and die; burying their prejudices with them.
[By the way, Artax... gays aren't the 'next' target of genocide... 200,000 gay people were fed into the gas chambers with the Jews in Hitler's Germany. But you're right... there's not a lot of difference between Bush's fundamentalist-religious neo-cons and nazi Germany, is there.]
tsuchan1 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Fags scream like schoolroom sissies when they say they are "bashed" but rejoice and gloat in the misery of others like Haggard and his family?
Fags are hypocrites!!!!
UmarBashir11 4 years ago
now you should get your ass kicked
and christians dont go around shoving there religion in your face.
damn you
"thou shalt not judge"
your a hipocriate
are you judging
yes yes you are
mishathedrummerjab 4 years ago
Christians push their agenda constantly and try to shove their views down everyone's throats by getting laws changed. Where have you been? Are you a retard?
chekist1917 4 years ago
This is the truth.
WadeLogan 3 years ago
lurn tu spel wirds.
How can anyone take you serious on such a major topic as religion if you can't spell hypocrite?
WadeLogan 3 years ago
yup. i agree!
keep doin what ur doin man
Rumpelteazerpink 4 years ago
right on bro
gopher793 4 years ago
Religion should go in the closet, gays should come out of the closet...!!!
48acar19 4 years ago
Akaihari,
Here is Biblical reference of what Jesus had to preach about love. Maybe you need to read the Bible again.
Matthew
3:10, 12
5:17
5:29-30
7:13-14
7:19
The lists goes on... Jesus was not all love in his teachings...
sifubao 4 years ago
You are right! When I was a child I felt bad for Jesus saying from time to time stupidities...
48acar19 4 years ago
Not every Christian hates gay people. I am a gay Christian and sometimes I feel like everyone hates me. PREACH LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE even to those who dont love you. Yes it is hard to do, but at least try. Why do you have to hate ignorant people? We should be sad that they are that way. I read what Jesus preaches and he does not say anywere to hate anybody. The whole premise for hating gay people in the church comes from his disciples not him.
Akaihari 4 years ago
Ok honestly. The church is losing power. It is not becoming the "third reich (sp)" for gods sake. And your studdering doesnt bother me but your constant swearing does because you cant seem to try to get a point across with out being pissed off. But I do agree with you on the Ted haggard thing =p
natesev14 4 years ago
yes!! The whole bible is a contradiction. Double talk. God doesn't exsist... millions of years ago people didn't have explanations for ''natural occurrences in nature'' and as time went on they blamed some ''higher power''.. ''God is angry, they sky is rumbling and flashing with his mighty thunder bolts.!!'' uummm no, that's called a rain storm. bbaaaaahahahahahaha
BigMoose1972 4 years ago
I think all bible thumpers should go in the closet.. This planet would be so much better off without religion.!!!!
down with the bible!!!!
Religion = hate, lies,greed, slavery, and destruction
BigMoose1972 4 years ago
i agree to a degree. just the 'crazy, we're gonna shove it down your throat and hate everything that isn't right according to a book that doesn't even prove that some cloud named god exists' people.
Artax13 4 years ago
lol .. theres no figuring out evangelicals .. their assholes!!!
meichey 4 years ago
you can't make ignorant generalizations based on the actions of one guy (and yeah, I know there are other "Christian" assholes too).
timmybaby11 4 years ago
you used quotes for Christian ... I did NOT say i think Christians are assholes.. I DO think evangelicals are... Heres my belief ... Religion is ok, just dont knock on my door and tell me about yours!!!!
meichey 4 years ago
I hate to break this to you, but Evangelicals are Christians...
timmybaby11 4 years ago
They are a branch in Christianity
meichey 4 years ago
which adds to the severity of their mad rantings. they're all mad.
Artax13 4 years ago
I think gay is bad.
Mcman07 4 years ago
you are exactly who i was telling jexfrey about! you're one of those fucking assholes who will be part of the fourth reich!! fuck you and your beliefs!! i don't even care what you believe or who you are!! fuck you!! self-righteous, aryan, pig fucking bastard!!
Artax13 4 years ago
good at least theres two person on this stupid website that are smart..
jexfrey 4 years ago
is that sarcasm from the dude above? i'm lost now. and are you saying we're the smart ones or are you referring to the dumbass from before?
Artax13 4 years ago
no im sayin mcman07 is smart for thinkin gay is bad. but im done argueing about it. we just beleive differently so lets move on..
jexfrey 4 years ago
i agree. it's dumb to argue over it. we won't get anywhere. haha. and gay isn't bad. just differnet and we should just accept it. it's not hurting anyone.
Artax13 4 years ago
its only hurting God. which is horrible. He destroyed a whole city because of homosexuality... but any way.. on to something else. we obviously beleive very differently and if we keep goin it will never stop...
jexfrey 4 years ago
I am not saying that the bible does not say that, all I was refuting was the fallacy that we are the same just having faith in different things. And I agree let's stop
funkmasterswede 4 years ago
thats such a great argument you just put forward..
wow.
scribebox 4 years ago
What kind of god would destroy a whole city...?!?!?!?!?!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
Am I supposed to feel sorry for you because your friends would rather do something with their lives that they believe in than hang out and drink beers with you? You are just as prejudiced against Christians as Haggard is about gays, the only difference is he a hypocrite.
timmybaby11 4 years ago
Very well done. Don't worry about your speaking style; any empathetic person will know you speak openly, honestly and without pretense.
Like you, I think it's crazy to derive moral guidance (or an understanding of our place within the cosmos) from an arbitrary book of bronze-age mythology handed down over the generations as dogma. It's still worse to do so in our modern age of scientific method and access to vastly more knowledge than those alive 1500 years ago ever had.
tripleVeeVee 4 years ago
It's interesting. One would think that with the stores of thought and knowledge we've accumulated, we'd move out of this Dark Age we seem to be in.
torimorph 4 years ago
wut dark age? the dark age of beleiving in the big bang and evolution?
jexfrey 4 years ago
Yeah, the "dark age" of science and reason. I'd much rather live in a world dominated by a lie made up 2000 years ago in order to obtain mass control.
magic8ball78 4 years ago
Evangelicals are indeed becoming more powerful than ever it seems, and they're doing things that are quite comparable to Hitler Youth times.
Mythosician06 4 years ago
I completely agree with everything you said.
Forgetx 4 years ago
sooo agreed! i am not Christian, however i do believe the religion itself preaches good, and it is fucktards like the people who run jesus camp that mess things up and misconstrue Christian teachings and make the world hate them because they are intolerant imbeciles!
PureBlueSkies7 4 years ago
ppl dont need religion to be good. Infact the opposite is often true in history
peterb1968 4 years ago
put down the joint and gather your thoughts.... i know, i know.... jeasus loves you this i know, for Jeasus Camp the movie, coming soon to dvd, tells me so
fijifiji06 4 years ago
Why do you think he has a joint...I just think he is wery shockt...wery shockt about how sick the christianity makes many people.If it's good for you.."hurray" but hold it for your self don't start a jesus camp yourself...And tell me...who told you it was wrong to be gay?..your parents?
And you know what, if jesus excisted he had hated fantick people like those in jesus camp..thats what I think but I'm not force you to belive it.just think about it ;)
ichtyophobia 4 years ago
kipnepi, i agree with you on some points. homosexuality is an extremely touchy subject for me, my brother is gay, and very anti-social because of people like ted haggard, that cock-suckin(oh, the irony) sonofacunt. i beleive another extremely forstanding reason why evangelicals are such cuntfaces, is their inability to co-exist with other religions, preferences, and ethnisities. essentially, they are arrogant cunt-fuck shitbags who should all burn in hell (medaphorically)
BrandNameChapstick 5 years ago
The first five seconds of this video was all that was necessary. Fuck it indeed. American Nationalism + Christianity + FOX News = the biggest threat to global security since the 1930s.
blackjamm 5 years ago
I tend to think that Muslim Extremists+No regard for the sanctity of human life+willingness to die= the biggest threat to global security, but when you put it that way, your opinion makes SO much more sense.
timmybaby11 4 years ago
Except: Muslim extremists are generated by American expansionism and oil greed. They are also insane. The perpetrators of, for instance, the 7/7 bombings, were essentially lone nutters, people who were lonely, disaffected. They do not control nations of 300,000,000, they don't have nuclear weapons and they aren't the world's biggest trading partner. So, yes, it does make more sense.
blackjamm 4 years ago
Yeah, I'm still not seeing the connection here with Christianity and FOX news threatening global security...
timmybaby11 4 years ago
OK. It goes like this: America, the most powerful country in the world, nuclear armed, is devoutly Christian. It's enemies are devoutly Muslim, and they have oil, which America wants. FOX news broadcasts essentially propaganda, which lends a false credence to whatever the right wing government wants. The invasion of Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11, is just the first example.
blackjamm 4 years ago
America is far from being devoutly Christian. That would imply that the majority of Americans not only claim to believe the Bible, but that they live in accordance with the Bible, which is VERY rare (Haggard being an example) Second, if we were in the Middle East for oil, we wouldn't be paying up the ass for it right now. Third, Iran has nuclear weapons, and it doesn't take 300,0000,000 people to use a nuclear weapon.
timmybaby11 4 years ago
The "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy applies here. It doesn't matter that the Christians in America don't follow the Bible properly or well, it just matters that they believe in it and think that policy should be generated around it, and that Islam is a threat. I also doubt that the US government anticipated the amount of time and money to be spent there. Indeed, if you look on it now, they seem positively naive.
blackjamm 4 years ago
And who told you Iran has nuclear weapons? That's actually incorrect. They have nuclear power stations, and some people think that they could develop nuclear weapons from the enriched radioactive matter at the stations - that's the threat. It's not that they have them already.
blackjamm 4 years ago
thank you sir...
manny4life 5 years ago
everyone's welcome! i commend RexTrek! America is for everybody! the world is ours! we share it so don't be dueschbags! haha. thanks for all your guys' support on this.
Artax13 5 years ago
no support from me! God made adam and eve not adam and steve...
jexfrey 4 years ago
well you can fuck yourself then! bible humping asshole. fuck you!
Artax13 4 years ago
i dont hump the bible. but if u would just think about the logic of it. the parts dont fit 2gthr unless ur going thru the asshole which is disgusting.but if ur a girl that dont work either. just think about it! it dont take a rocket scientist!
jexfrey 4 years ago
you're a dumbass. you took that way too literally for anyone's good. we all hate you. fucker.
Artax13 4 years ago
i didnt take it literally i no its just a sayin but hey! i mite as well piss you off! but yeah im used to ppl hatin me so wuts one more person? specially sum1 like you???
jexfrey 4 years ago
like me? i'm one of the few people in this world that are able to except the fact that there is NO higher power and that we are on our own to do as we please. many people as well as myself don't feel that we should limit our lives to a set of standards and rules dealing with some falacy that someone created back in time.
Artax13 4 years ago
you are one of the few people who will die by falling off a cliff and on the way down will plead "God help me!" it is in every man that wen they are dying or in need look to God even if they are so ignorant as to say there isnt a God. why? because God made them n the only one who can help them in the last feeble attempt is their creator!
jexfrey 4 years ago
fuck dude. my parents created me. not your bullshit god. don't try and pull that on me.
Artax13 4 years ago
im not tryin to pull nothin on you. just tellin you the truth! so how do u think Adam and Eve were created? from their parents? only they were the first people on earth so that doesnt work... explain that one to me if you can in your distorted ways..
jexfrey 4 years ago
i don't believe there was adam and eve or god or anything. i'm more inclined to believe the big bang theory. evolution also. are you one of those idiots that doesn't believe dinosaurs existed?
Artax13 4 years ago
no there prolly was dinos. but there still had to be a first human. who was it? evolution is just another beleif just like god is. so why do you hate christians so bad wen you just beleive differently? i dont hate you or anyone... i just feel sorry for you wen your time comes to die..you will then realize your mistke.
jexfrey 4 years ago
there's no mistake to be realized. and i don't hate you. and i don't hate all christians. just the extremist ones that are bastards about everything that's not in 'god's plan'. if you know what i mean. the ones that try to jam it down your throat. i'm sorry i was being rude. it just aggrivates me.
Artax13 4 years ago
There is evidence of evolution, no evidence of god. There lies the difference.
funkmasterswede 4 years ago
im sorry. your wrong. there is plenty of evidence of God. the bible is one for instance.evolution is a THEORY. even the smartest scientists call it a theory cuz its only wut they beleive not what they know. its about time you realized that.
jexfrey 4 years ago
but wasn't the bible written by a bunch of different people over long spans of time?
Artax13 4 years ago
You what... there's is a mountain of evidence for evolution but no evidence for the bible... big woop man wrote fictional book over ex amount of years. Evolution has been proven if you took the time to read the books you would see that!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
evolution has not been proven. why do they call it a theory then? evolution did not happen. its just a way for people to keep God out of the picture and not give Him any credit. these people will pay for thier mistakes wen their time comes.
jexfrey 4 years ago
the bible hasn't been proven either! don't pull the same reel on torimorph as you did me. that's not fair. and to us when we say oh my god or whatever it's just a word. which is all your god is to us...a word. there is no proof that there is a god. it's just a safety blanket so you and others can sleep better at night. and it sucks for we who realize that there is no possible way there's a god because there are all sorts of rules and standards in our world that have to do with your beliefs.
Artax13 4 years ago
how is there no possible way there is a god? you dont make sense. and also your intellect mite think its just a word but your heart knows who made you. (God) if there is no such thing as God then why do you even say it? u wouldnt say it if there was no such thing. why dont u say oh my mom or sumthin that -you think- exsists.(assuming you have a mom) if you would just take your head out of your ass you would understand and just admit u beleive in God.
jexfrey 4 years ago
You're a dumb ass if you don't understand the cultural influences on humans. Like swearing god is just a way of expressing oneself in a culture, doesn't have anything to do with belief just what you've heard when people are in situations just like swear words they are a curse from when my family was christian in the bad old days of forced religion. This is year 9 science stuff go get educated moron!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
oh dont call me that its makin me sad. not! and im plenty educated. the bible is leading to war? how is that? oh and how is it reducing free speech? and woman are not equal to men. its just the way it is. also gays shouldnt get rights they dont deserve em. n dont say they were born like that cuz God dont make mistakes. they just couldnt get a girl (or guy depending on ur sex) so they had to go fag.
jexfrey 4 years ago
you wanna know what her means when he says that it reduces free speech? saying fuck, shit, damn, etc...is socially unaccepted by the religious communities. and why? to hold pure the existance of the one true god? fuck off! let us talk the way we want! it's sad that this country was founded on religion and that it holds some disgusting power over the country. we don't have to live by your fucked up standards! p.s.! splitplanet32 is a badass and i admire him/her!!
Artax13 4 years ago
1) (not enough words grr)
That's got to be the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard. In your bible which is wrong it say's god made man in his image. So therefore god is a transsexual, bi curious person with cancer and all the other problems known to man...
splitplanet32 4 years ago
2) Not so great now is he. If he existed that would be the only fair way, since he doesn't and we were all made though the mutation of genes imperfections show up all the time. Being gay isn't an imperfection, if people are then that's just the way they are! It has been shown in flys there is a single gene that if changed will change the sexual orientation of that fly. In humans it is more complex but it's inbuilt!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
god made MAN (adam) in his image. he made him perfect. then God made Eve from Adam takin one of his rib bones. wen Eve tempted Adam into eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Adam (like the name of the tree) became aware of good and evil and became ashamed of himself. therefore not perfect any longer as humans are 2day. were far from perfect. the only perfect person on this earth was jesus who died for imperfect man.
jexfrey 4 years ago
If he were perfect then he wouldn't fall for temptation! There is no god why don't you jusat give up!!!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
he didnt fall for temptation! were did you hear that?
jexfrey 4 years ago
word...just word...i'm in awe. you rock.
Artax13 4 years ago
1) Something smells like... like... bullshit. Must be the bible.
2) If Jesus was perfect, why didn't he go all Bruce Lee on the Romans and kick their asses?
3) If he died for imperfect man to become perfect man, how come nobody today is "perfect"? Was his death pointless in the long run?
4) Two middle fingers straight up in the general direction of christianity.
magic8ball78 4 years ago
4) To get back to freedom of speech, if Ted Haggard had of come to the church as a gay would he have got to his position ,I think not. His freedom of speech would have been withheld, so he had to lie!. What about the freedom of speech of the evolutionists. They are told there message should not be shown in schools. How about when I go court, I am made to swear on a bible, god is not part of the government and never should be!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
5) The war thing I said, well christianity if you look though history has been used to justify more war then any other religion. People thinking they're more moral because they live by a book are dangerous! And what about in Northern Island, the Middle East, Israel, I can think of countless religious wars, yet not so many not thought on religion. The war on terror is yet another example of religious extremists! So don't tell me it doesn't!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
yes but are these wars about religion? maybe sunwere else in the world but not america. name one war that occured because of christians. and wen you cant think of any, just say i give up cuz theres not been even one!
jexfrey 4 years ago
The First Christian War 1524 -1525
The Second Christian War 1546 - 1555
The Third Christian War 1529 -1531
The Fourth Christian War 1562 - 1598
The Fifth Christian War 1560-1567 -
The Sixth Christian War-The Thirty Years War 1618 -1648
The crusades, Northern Island, Hitler was a roman catholic who killed millions of Jews, that's war with religious influences, And George bush uses it to justify every bad decision he makes so don't give me that. Look it up!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
im talkin about christians not jews, or roman catholics. and how does george bush use it? by sayin oh im a christian thats why i did that.. or that.. no. maybe about homos or abortion but thats not a bad decision. its about morals.
jexfrey 4 years ago
jexfrey: 'wen Eve tempted Adam into eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Adam (like the name of the tree) became aware of good and evil and became ashamed of himself', roman cathlics are christians, they believe in christ, and yes george bush uses 'under god' all the time!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
Another point George W was voted in by christians + in america it is illigal for atheists to be voted to a position of office in 7 states! Therefore if the christians voted in a war lord then christianity caused war... the voting system in america is not a fair one!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
They couldn't get a girl or guy? You've never heard of girls who are absolutely in love with their gay guy friend? You've never heard of a gorgeous lesbian that has to fend off all the guys dying to get into her pants at a bar?
Your head's so far up your own ass you could give yourself a fucking visual prostate exam.
confusinomitron 4 years ago
well fuck you. i do have a mom. and she's the greatest mom in the world because she never tried to push this bullshit on me. and my intellect is obviously higher than yours because i can spell my words much better and more efficiantly. and as i said before, i was made by my parents! nobody else. if you want to believe you're the bastard son of some mythical being then go right ahead but DON'T you dare sit there and try and convince me otherwise! so you take your head out of your ass.
Artax13 4 years ago
Excuse me... Evolution has been obscured in the lab... did you even bother to look for the evidence... there is no such much evidence for evolution but not an ounce in favour of a so called god! Ok I saw this video the other day claiming species had not changed therefore there must be a god... that's not evidence, species do not necessarily change, if there is a need to evolve they will. + Life on earth is billions not millions of years old! IDIOT!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
Also to answer the original point in science things are known as a theory until proven otherwise, so far everything has pointed to evolution being correct so therefore it remains a theory. Go read a book stupid!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
i no wut a theory is thats why i said its not been proven. the only reason why some animals have one same feature as humans is cuz god wanted em to. how do u think the first person if not animal was made? you think it just all of the sudden appeared? i dont think so. God made them for humans to eat and live off of. your the stupid one. time to take your head out of your ass!
jexfrey 4 years ago
You what? your telling me your going to ignore all the evidence.... it's been proven ... nothing has shown it to be false and it has been seen to happen that's proof also there is a ton of evidence. I hate to tell you this but there is no god... just a bunch of dangerous propaganda in a book leading to war, reduction of free speech, less rights for woman, gays etc... and the slow down of scientific research, all in the name of these fascists. Go read a book stupid!
splitplanet32 4 years ago
How is the bible evidence of G-d? It's a book. Written by people. And don't feed me the "it was written by G-d" line. Arguably inspired, but the hands and minds that wrote the book were Man's.
I have never seen a copy of the Bible with a by-line. "The Bible by Yahweh" Nope. Doesn't exist.
torimorph 4 years ago
only thing i can ask you is...do u ever say"oh my god"?or"God, ur a dumbass"or sumthin like that.ppl say they dont beleive in god yet they use his name everyday. also, in the last minutes of ur life, if u are suffering i can guarentee u will say "god help me" or sumthin to that effect because he was your creator and deep inside ur heart n soul(u may not know it but ur heart does)u will find out that the only one who can help u is ur creator.BUT he wont help u because u never beleived in him.
jexfrey 4 years ago
You assume a lot. I never said I didn't believe in G-d. And I'm a Jew so according to a bunch of fundamentalist Christians, I am one of the "chosen people". How convenient. Anyway. This is going to be the most basic of flames, but it's really hard to take your arguments seriously when you don't even bother to check your spelling and grammar and when I have to put up with "u"'r bad net lingo.
torimorph 4 years ago
no ur not one of the chosen ones. just a stray lost person. n im sorry i dont feel like spellin all my words. why dont u go to some geek site were they will all spell rite n proper? screw you.
jexfrey 4 years ago
No my culture made me say that, just like everything what people say around me influencing what I say, if I like it not. I come from a christian area there are 5 churches within a mile of my house, no other organisation has this kind of power. There is no god and no afterlife. Making the most of my spark of consciousness is all I have so making the most of this life is the most important thing to me.
splitplanet32 4 years ago
Reading this over, this entry pisses me off the most. The only "evidence of God" is abiogenesis. That is a hypothetical term for life being spontaneously created out of inorganic material. Science says that they do not know how abiogenesis would work. So there, if you're that hasty, you can pin it on "magic man", but you cannot pin it on the christian god. A god, yes. But not the christian god.
magic8ball78 4 years ago
And a theory is not a stupid guess. A theory is held by facts and the facts support the theories. Gravity is a theory. It's about time you get out of the hick-ridden south.
magic8ball78 4 years ago
This is truly the voice of tolerance....
timmybaby11 4 years ago
Wow your hilarious. Jesus also promoted extreme love for other men and was abiguously fond of his male friends and distant from women.
Drunknirish1o1 4 years ago
Hell, your words are one with my own. Good that someone phrased it in a manner that works.
turtzik 5 years ago
The problem isn't religion or God, whom I do believe exists. It's what these so-called "Christians" do in God's name to distort God's word to fit their own agenda. Many stories of the Bible are preached out of context as I come to see in a short time recently. Forinstance, the story of God destroying Sodom, suppossedly because the inhabitants were "gay"
as many preach. Using a couple verses Gen. 19:4-11 to back-up their claim. Yet, look up this scripture that seems forgotten Ezekiel 16:49-50.
Kipnepi 5 years ago
I love how it looks dubbed on youtube.
auntpotato 5 years ago
Thank You! lets just all become athiests and stop judging everyone. who cares what a book says?
missmurder722 5 years ago
Dude - for someone so young - you hit the nail on the head! Good for you being a "Free Thinker"...well put...america is for ALL Americans!
rextrek 5 years ago
there's this thing called "history." it's something where you learn from man's mistakes in the past.
dsslg19 5 years ago
I agree with most of the things you said, but "the next third riech" would be called the fourth reich.
melissaw193 5 years ago
For real man!! There is no god!!!! Get the fuck over it!!!! I am my own god, I am the ruler of my own destiny. If you don't believe the same thing about yourself, you have been seriously mislead. You control your own life... period.
sickasfuc 5 years ago
(Continued) The problem in this country is not the gays or anything like that.... It's religion!!! It's religion that turns everybody against everybody. As far as I'm concerned, if your a part of any religion that would allow you to kill someone in the name of god is a fucking crock of shit! Fucking sheep go back to your Shepard or grow a brain and and join the rest of society!
sickasfuc 5 years ago
I agree sir
testament214 5 years ago
i'm pagan and im alright wiht some christians, but those people like that...i call them the fourth reich of america
hakurogue 5 years ago
WORD!! to both hakurogue and Veneysis!! the world as we know it is fucked if the church keeps this up.
Artax13 5 years ago
of course aids is a bad thing! haha. but gays aren't. and yes Europe is better! i Love Germany!
Artax13 5 years ago
Germany is awesome! I'm from Belgium, little country between Netherlands and France (an hour driving from Paris). I study at the university of Ghent and I'm gay! Nobody makes a problem of it here, even gay-marriage is legal here.
Veneysis 5 years ago
Too bad, their citizenship laws are racist. If someone is born and raised in a nation they should be allowed to become a citizen. Ethnicity should not be a requirement.
funkmasterswede 4 years ago
First of all: to all gays, forget America, come to Europe!!! It's much better here!
And Aids is not a product of gays, how do you explain the little children being born every day with aids in Africa.
Veneysis 5 years ago
the kids are born with aids beacause their mommy has aids!
testament214 5 years ago
Thank you for proving my point. Many say that aids is a product of gays, the truth is that almost 90 % of the HIV-infected people are heterosexuals. This point is proven by the birth of hundreds of aids-infected kids in Africa EVERY DAY.
Veneysis 5 years ago
do you think that aids is a bad thing? well aids is a product of gays..have a nice day!
testament214 5 years ago
You are an idiot.
flargo 5 years ago
i didnt mean to insult your sexuality! always use condoms my friend!
testament214 5 years ago
your fucking ignorant
sickasfuc 5 years ago
It's the product of promiscuity actually.
funkmasterswede 4 years ago