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  • This is going straight to my favourites.

  • assholes.....

  • why dont the people who don't like what he's saying just walk away

  • Spirt as the power within the Father that He shares with us.  Does this make sense, I am not an absolutist, and I am open to hearing other people's opinions. Thanks for reading this

  • I hate Muslims, they try to make a big deal over the Trinity. Hey it was 2000 years ago. Maybe some points are off, but that can be said for Islam even more. Islam started 1400 years ago. I see the Gospel as a developing drama as you read through it. Jesus gets baptized, beginning hiring students, gradually teaches them deeper truths until he is arrested, tried, killed, reborn, ascended. Now I see the Father as the Boss and Jesus as Vice President and the Holy

  • I'm not even going there my bible tells me that the father and the son are one. That makes Jesus the second part of the trinity. The son of God. That is in the book of John and you will find proof that God is a triun God in the book of Mathew the last chapter where Jesus tells his disciples to go and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father the son and of the Holy Ghost

  • It's like the account in the bible where Elijah faced 850 prophets of Baalim. He said If Baalim be God let him show himself God but if the Lord God be God he will show Himself God. I say let everyone defend their own faith and in the long run we will know who is really Ruler over the earth. I know who is my redemer.

  • Ridiculous.

  • It's always funny to see that kind of stuff. I mean, why does that guy go to a university campus? Does he derive satisfaction from annoying students with his lame and trivial sermons?

    I guess he thinks he's some kind of Christian martyr or hero who preaches amongst the evil infidels. He can brag with his "feats" at his loal church.

  • If these idiots had studied science as in evolutionary biology would they be debating about baseless ancient texts written by primitive men during primitive times, or would they be logically discussing science with reason?

  • What a couple of clowns ... two opposing religions trying to prove who's "right"?

    Dumb! They're both a bunch of bunk!

  • so as i researched the issue...mahamud was criticized for a lack of miracles in his ministry. hmmm when was the last time allah or shall i say (baal) the elevated moon god healed someone? why is the koran completley absent of a God who loves?

  • OMFG. Who cares about religion... No one can profe anything anyways. Get a life!

  • Each religion existing in this world claims to be based on proofs and is therefore the true one! What a load of wank! There is no religion more true than the other. We are all son of the earth and the universe, God, Allah, Hashem are all the same and actually mean the same. Regardlessof what you are, it's all down to love respect and understanding. If you don't have that then you are not a true believer in your own faith

  • SHUT UP WHITE GUY LET THE OTHER DUDE SPEEK .. OH BUT NO UR NOT GONNA BECAUSE UR TOO IGNORANT. ALLAH has no child or wife Jesus is a prophet, a messenger to people from ALLAH OPEN YOUR EYES... PLEASE. And Islam is the completion to christianity and judaism. The Torah is 1/2 of the bible(the old testament) and the Bible(the old testament) is 1/2 of the Quran.

  • SHUT UP WHITE GUY LET THE OTHER DUDE SPEEK .. OH BUT NO UR NOT GONNA BECAUSE UR TOO IGNORANT. ALLAH has no child or wife Jesus is a prophet, a messenger to people from Islam OPEN YOUR EYES... PLEASE. And Islam is the completion to christianity and judaism. The Torah is 1/2 of the bible(the old testament) and the Bible(the old testament) is 1/2 of the Quran.

  • "Allah (God) has no wife " - Yes that's true.

    "Allah (God) has no child " - By saying that you're instantly denying the excistens of

    mankind .

    Huh ??

  • I agree with you.

  • The Bible has no historical authenticity.

  • What exactly do you mean by "authenticity"? If by that, you mean physical evidence, then perhaps you're looking at Christianity the wrong way. Religion is, after all, a walk by faith - not by sight.

  • This is why Christianity is a superstitious, man-made religion that is based on blind faith.

    For example, Christianity promotes incest, rape etc (see Genesis, 19:36, 2Samuel).

    Islam, on the other hand, is very logical and rational and is based on proofs.

  • Correct me if I'm wrong.

    In the religion of Islam, they believe from the day you're born, there are two angels on your shoulders. One records all your good deeds, and the other records all your bad deeds. On judgement day, these deeds are weighed to see whether you go to heaven or hell.

    If you make it to heaven, you are then rewarded with things like many "virgins" and "wine", all of which are considered SIN on earth.

    How is it logical to reward a lifetime of sanctity with SIN?

  • ProjectProvidence: First of all, I appreciate your civilised attitude and your willingness to reason with logic and facts. Quite often, you find these traits missing in Christians.

    As long as you are not abusive and ready to reason with facts and logic, you will find me to be courteous.

  • Regarding your question, there is no need to worry too much about the physical laws or dimensions of paradise.

    What you can do is use facts and logic to discuss worldly life. Islam provides a solution to alcoholism, drug abuse and other vices in this worldly life, and Christianity doesn't. Whole Christian communities are consumed with these vices, for example South Africa and other Christian societies that have a very high level of HIV, aboriginals of America, Canada and Australia etc.

  • The wine that will be served in paradise is described as "pure" and also everyone in paradise will have ultimate satisfaction.

    Deeds will be weighed on judgement day, but God will forgive whom He wills and punish whom He wills.

  • Interesting how you answered the question with a belief that cannot easily be proved.

    Not that I have anything against that, but just as you found "a convenient truth" to answer my question, I too will find a seemingly convenient truth. My point being, no matter how good our "evidence" is or how much "proof" we offer, we will most likely never find a common ground.

    Facts and logic are often only as good as the context of the conversation.

  • Christianity is TRUTH! I will tell you why because Jesus did die for everyones sins, and he actually existed. There are no people in history to even mention This muhamed guy until 100's of years after the death of Jesus.

  • PROVE it that Jesus died for everyone's sins. PROVE it like an educated person.

    If you can't prove it, then Christianity is a false religion.

  • Okay you must be muslim? Fucking idiot, right you prove that muhamed didn't rape 6 year old children and beat women to a pulp? Okay prove that muslims are not ruining the rest of the world with a slave religion that never existed. Okay, there are markings and writing in jerusalem that have been translated that say exactly what happened to Jesus, and they also say why he was killed. And as i said before, that is the reason why, for all of mour sins. FUCK YOUR ALLAHU ARKBAR. UR GOIN TO HELL.

  • Please refrain from using profanity in your comments; think of younger spectators. No matter how much you disagree with someone else, it can always be handled in a more professional manner. If you're defending Christianity, why not rebuttal with a verse from The Bible?

    I'm glad you offered some proof, but there's still a chance no matter how good your proof may be - they still won't believe. The best proof I can offer anyone, is the fruits of my life, my blessings and success.

  • yingyangboy89: Looking at your level of profanity - are you reading straight from your scripture?

    Now as a good Christian, there are two things you should do immediately:

    Have sex with your daughters (Genesis, 19:36)

    Rape your sister (2Samuel)

    And there are other assignments I can give you from your religion, but we will begin with these two.

    Christianity is demonstrably a superstitious, man-made false religion.

    Your obsession with sexual perversion and swearing shows it is demonic too

  • Likewise, as a good Muslim it would be fitting for you to follow in the footsteps of Muhammad by heading down to your local nursery, marrying a healthy 6-year old and perhaps by the time they are 9-years old, they may be fit for your needs.

    (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62)

  • Okay let me just tell you how this little situation is. First of all you worship islam, which in FACT is not even a religion, it is an evil CULT first started AFTER the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. The CULT was introduced by a man named Muhamed, who was a serial rapist and a peadophile who raped 6 year old girls. The mother of EVERY muslim is a ten year old girl. You are a complete moron for waoshipping something that does not even exist. You ARE worshipping a CULT, FACT. DUMB FUCK.

  • You are worshipping Jesus who is not even God. You follow Satan and that's why you are so foul mouthed and evil.

    Your Christianity teaches you to rape your sisters and have sex with your fathers.

    How sick and disgusting?

    Your worship of Jesus is really Satanic and is evident from your posts.

  • First off, "prove it like an educated person" souns a bit like you're implying that those unable to prove something are uneducated, and there are definately better ways of making your point.

    Secondly, if you go around trying to prove everything you will be sadly dissapointed when you realize some of the world's most fundamental laws can't be easily proved.

    We both know light travels 300km/s. But can you prove it? Of not, then it must not really be true, right?

  • Now that I have answered your question, it's your turn to answer mine.

    The whole point of religion or spirituality is to get close to The Creator.

    Muslims worship God but Christians worship Jesus.

    Muslims worship The Creator but Christians worship the creation.

    Jesus is not God and he is not the creator. Jesus ate food like other human beings, and when his food was digested he had to use the toilet to relieve himself. Thus, he certainly cannot be God.

  • Matthew 4:10 - Jesus said to him, Away from me, Satan! For it is written: Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.

    In Exodus God commands that He alone be worshiped. Jesus reiterated the commandment to worship God only, yet God the Fathers command indicates that the Son too is God.

    Hebrews 1:6 - And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, Let all Gods angels worship him.

    Naturally, anything being "firtborn" must sleep, eat and excrete.

  • ProjectProvidence: You have not provided any proof, only quotes from the Bible. But the Bible has no historical authenticity, even the original Aramaic Bible does not exist. There are many versions of the Bible, and many editors. And the chain of narrators of the Bible do not exist, let alone the biographies of these narrators. What was the last name of Mark? or Luke? Under what circumstances did he narrate what he did? Any third party account on how reliable he was?

  • I thought you had noticed my comment earlier on the limitations of facts and logic.

    Funny, how you mention that I have not provided any proof, when in fact I am only using the same logic as you. Earlier you answered my question by saying things like "wine that will be served in paradise is described as "pure"" and "God will forgive whom He wills".

    These are things you believe to be true, things you've read in your Quaran perhaps? If so, your words are just as "faulty" as my scripture.

  • Thus, the Bible has no historical authenticity. And quoting from the Bible offers no proof.

    So, you have offered no proof that Jesus existed before Creation. And you have offered no proof that Jesus is the creator.

  • Now, why do I ask for PROOF? Suppose a pagan is looking for the truth and wants to be close to The Creator. The only option he has is to evaluate the various religions and judge them on the basis of proof.

  • Yes, proof can be useful. No, it is not the only option and should not be viewed as such. If a pagan is looking for Routine, they should run towards Islam and it's proofs, but if a pagan is looking for Relationship, they should run towards Christianity and its faith.

    A system of comparing proofs makes sense, but the idea of religion is not one of ridged logic and infallible evidence; this is why I say clinging to proof alone is useless.

  • @Farakhshaneet I say go with whatever you were brought up with. That's what 99% of all religious people do anyways.

  • This person looking for the truth can evaluate a religion only on the basis of proof.

    If Christianity is the truth simply on the basis of blind faith, then it cannot be distinguished from Hinduism (belief in 700 million deities) which is also based on blind faith. How would a person then find the truth?

    Surely, The Creator would have made the true path clear and illuminated with proofs for anyone searching for the truth.

    This is why ONLY Islam is the truth because it is based on proofs.

  • "This person looking for truth can evaluate a religion only on the basis of proof" Wrong.

    It is obvious that Islam and Christianity have a very different approach. "Religion" would probably be the wrong word for Christianity. Instead we would probably use the word "relationship".

    To me, being a Christian is a supernatural experience, and a very personal relationship with Jesus. A person seeking "truth" would soon run out these limited proofs, where as a relationship can last forever.

  • Jesus is NOT The Creator either. There were civilisations that existed before Jesus, for eg. The Roman Empire, the Egyptian Civilisation etc. Jesus didn't create the Romans or the Egyptians.

    Hence Jesus is not God or the creator.

    If you disagree, then PROVE to me that Jesus is the creator.

    Thank you for willing to reason and being courteous.

  • Isaiah 48:11c - I will not yield my glory to another.

    John 17:5 - And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

    In Isaiah, God says that He will not give away His glory to another. Yet Jesus, in John 17, is expecting to receive again the divine glory He shared with the Father before the world began.

    Being before the world began, precedes any previous event in history, hence The Romans and Egyptians came after Jesus Christ.

  • No man can judge who will go to hell or not. He is correct in defending Christianity but he is wrong for telling peoplethey will go to hell because they dont believe. Only god can make that judgement. Kudos to the man though for defending Christ!

  • I couldn't agree with you more. Our job is to spread the love of Christ, not condemn or judge.

  • you see that the guy speakin for islam isnt sayin anything from the quran

  • Though I'd like to agree with you and say "yeah, he was probably speechless because the Christian guy was too much for him", it's probably more accurate to say he was constantly interrupted by the "Christian" guy. I fully support Christianity but I do not support the method the man in this video uses.

  • well yeah ill admit he did go at it wrong for a christian but ya also gotta think alot of muslims are like that to when you get on that topic they cut you off alot too

  • I guess you could look at the glass half full as well. It's hard to generalize how a single muslim or christian chooses to defend their faith. Naturally I'm glad he chose to share the love of Jesus Christ with others, but it broke my heart to see the audience react the way they did. In the long run, I'm not sure how well he went about it.

  • Dude...You are the man! You got some brass ones.

    Preach on. Jesus is the only way, without Him...eternity is pretty hot!

    God is good, and you are the man for standing up for HIM!

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