SOLENOID magnet motor like steam engine TUBALCAIN

[IoanBojan]

adding a steam cylinder and its valve will result an long life A.C. generator.

[AngiesChefLover]

very cool :-))

[unamaxify]

NICE !

but why ?

is there a benefit to a linear motor?

compared to a regular spinning one ?

to me it seems to only introduce allot of additional friction

[josephdupont]

How efficient is this? might be something to put on a bicycle .

[acmefixer1]

One problem is that it is not self starting. If the piston was mounted vertically and above the flywheel, the weight of the piston would tend to make the flywheel stop with the piston out of the solenoid. Then when power is applied, the switch would be on and the piston would be ready to be pulled into the solenoid.

[CoolHatMan100]

Please do a tutoral on how to make this solenoid!

[montey1017]

my mom walked thrue the room and herd the music and asked WHAT ARE YOU WACHING!!!???...and i get it...it kinda sounds porno-ish

[transfusablepng]

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[GitarStu]

@transfusablepng Stop spamming everywhere! You're annoying.

[fatqwert200]

@transfusablepng first of all there is no such thing as free energy it takes energy to "create" energy i.e in chemestry activation energy like a spark in a petrol engine or the starer in a compressed air engine

[theonethatgoofs]

@fatqwert200 free conversion of energy through magnetic or mechanical means can be done in order too create electricity .the key is rotational force.

[theonethatgoofs]

@fatqwert200 free conversion of energy through magnetic or mechanical means can be done in order too create electricity .the key is rotational force.and weight

[2tombarnett]

compelling film - awful music.

[saninlegendario]

kiero uno cuanto vendes uno de esos ?? o explica como armar uno por fa

[magifesq]

Nice variation of the sterling motor

[rkaztec7]

Just a question... if strong earth magnets were mounted on side of flywheel, spining past some small cone shaped coils, where half the coils feed a capacitor and the other half feed a second capacitor in which they took turns dumping to either the solenoid or maybe "pulse charge" the battery... think it would supply itself with enough power to keep going? :o) Nice job! -Kent

[itanimulli08]

can you please show the process of making the coil for the solenoid!>

[itanimulli08]

thumbs up for the homemade solenoid!

[EngineTechnology1]

Waste of energy....

[valveman12]

@EngineTechnology1

Now why would you say it's a waste of energy? It's pretty cool!

[a1mint]

Nice looking electric motor.

[antonio50150]

you can make it with 11 years why not?

[fifi6popo]

nice man.

I would be very happy that I can make somethink cool like this...

but i can't I am only 11 years old.

five star man,you rule!

: )

[alanrosenbaum]

nice,good work!

[orklis]

should be quite powerfull :)

[randommagnum]

Interesting idea...the thought has crossed my mind too, but I guess it is usually done because electromagnetism isn't bound by the properties that confine conventional thermal/pressure forces in the cylinders of piston engines in general, hence no need for cylinders and pistons.

Still, it would be interesting to see an electrical efficiency comparison.

[dundermiflinpaper]

wow, ive never seen a solenoid motor, that is really cool. im going to have to make this. good job!

[mrpete222]

Thanks--I am working on a double solenoid engine at present. Watch for it on youtube soon.

[itanimulli08]

@mrpete222 can you please make a video showing your solenoid itself, it IS handmade and i know alot of people including myself would love to make our own too, instead of running around town looking for one. ive tried myself but failed, copper wire of all gages and tubes of all sizes, and wound it in a variety of coil numbers, and yet with a 9 volt charge, my plunger stays still, not only that, i dont even get a magnetic field. im doing somthing serioudly wrong.

[vsrosa]

@dundermiflinpaper

When I was 12, I made one of these using washing machine solenoid valves and a few parts from a very old tape recorder (a big flywheel). The final design used two solenoids and DC voltage to improve the performance. It was very beautiful and sound until i decided to use a voltage doubler to power the solenoids: everything broke after a few seconds of very high speed. ;-)

[sushimotoo]

Hi,

have you done some comparsion to regular DC-motors?

[mrpete222]

No, not sure I understand the ques.

[sushimotoo]

I were considering, if it uses less power than a conventional dc-motor with the same torque. You have less lenz' forces but more friction.

[BadAndUgly]

Solenoid motors and regular electric motors aren't really comparable since the solenoid is very inefficient at long strokes.

[sushimotoo]

Okay,

solenoid engines are as nice as steam engines are.... And possible to enhance as well.

i.E. If you use a hall probe or opto for timing, and a ratchet instead of the yoke, you could save a lot of frictionloss on shorter strokes.

At the very end, all systems are comparable

which are converting one energy-form to another.

Electric currency, gas, heat and pressure to rotational forces.

My question was concerning your experience on that issue because i am investigating on that as well.

[bubbaandy89]

@mrpete222 I think he's referring to the power and efficiency. Does this compare in power and "fuel efficiency" to a standard dc motor. Does it use more electricity? Does it have enough power to outpull a dc motor?

[EETechs]

@bubbaandy89 A DC motor would have more torque than this motor because as more load is applied to the motor, less back emf is produced and thus more current will flow which results in greater torque. Also there are always a set of coils energized in the DC motor whereas this solenoid motor must store the the "power stroke's" energy in the flywheel.

[TheKaos90]

@sushimotoo Well , mrpete asks if the torque output is higher in comparisson with a conventional dc engine using the same power as this one.

Q2: is it running on AC ?

[JRBeaman]

@TheKaos90 Why don't you build one of each and see if you can get the same power output. It runs on pulsating DC, just like any piston engine runs on a pulsating energy source.

That is the point of the model.

[donjuanzx9]

The switch looks like a leaf switch from a arcade machine button?

[mrpete222]

It just a standard (over the counter) micro switch from ace hardware.

[bimrow]

Change your piston to a magnet and your torque will go way up. Your machine is small enough to glue the magnet to the rod.

[mrpete222]

I added a magnet to the piston--it increased the RPM by about 100. Thanks

[bimrow]

Wind our coil heavy at the bottom. The magnetic field changes at the half way point so you can only stroke half way through.

[fronkenpoop]

That's a great system- nicely engineered. An optical pickup instead of the microswitch would probably allow the motor to run faster with less vibration. Thanks.

[mrpete222]

What is an optical pickup, & where may I get one??

[fronkenpoop]

It's a solid state optical switch. You would mount a disk on the flywheel shaft with a slot in it where marking the phase in the cycle where you want your solenoid to be energised. An IR LED would go on one side of the disk and a detector on the other. When the hole passes the two components, it would send a signal to some circuitry enabling the switch. I would like to send a URL as an example, but youtube blocks that stuff. Sorry. There's stuff on the web if you need more info. Good luck.

[mascobe]

Mascobe here, nice motor. Keep building and posting the finished motors...

[mrpete222]

Thanks MASCOBE. I have enjoyed your videos as well. Keep watching for many more engines.

[mascobe]

What model is the base casting from?

[mrpete222]

The base is from one of my steam engine models which be on a video in the future.

[mrpete222]

Thanks knowledgemonger. Very interesting, but where do I get mu-metal? Also, how would I measure torque on such a small model??? Perhaps build an equally small prony brake or can it be accomplished with the engine under a constant load and measuring the amperage?

[knowledgemonger]

I really don't know where to buy mu-metal. Try googling on it. I spec it and someone else buys it. Very thin tin plated mild steel will also work. You need multiple layers.

If you had a small pulley or a coupler on your motor, you could use a small DC electric motor as the load. A permanent magnet motor as is used in toys would do. Mount the loading motor so that an arm with a weight is all that stops its body from turning.

[knowledgemonger]

The loading motor is working as a generator. The more load you put on it, the lower the speed at which the torque will rise to some value. Slowly add load and see if you can get the weight on the arm to lift.

[knowledgemonger]

If you wrap a layer of mu-metal around the outside surface of the coil, being careful not to create a shorted turn, you should find that the torque is increased quite a bit.

If you can't get mu-metal, ordinary tin plated mild steel will also work but not quite as well.

If you can get very thin metal, take a layer of metal perhaps 3 times linger than is needed to go around the coil, and glue on a layer of paper. Once the glue dries, apply more glue and then roll the combination up on a dowel.