The Treatment of Women in Christianity and Islam

[FrozenPetrolPie]

(2:228b) (men are better then women.) - the Quran

[OrganicKing]

which pixel is the Muslim women?

[e21282]

MUSLIMS ARE SO BACKWARD IN TECHNOLOGY AND KNOWLEDGE !! THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN DIAPER OR A WIPER TO HUMANITY. THEY ONLY TALK ABOUT OLD ACHIEVEMENT ABOUT GREAT GRANDFATHERS. LEARN TO LIVE IN PRESENT NOT PAST!!!

[Truth2010ize]

EXTREMELY BAD PICTURE QUALITY.

[kittycatcarley]

Women are not tilth! Women are not property! Women are beautiful people created by God made to be free human beings, equal with men. We are the ezer kenegdo - the equal partner - to men. We do not bow down before men like servants, we stand beside them becasue we are women, worth of respect, worthy of love.

[Rachiejane1]

@kittycatcarley But it says in the quran - women should be as the tilth. It says it in black and white...how can you say that if you are a Muslim? Are you?

[kittycatcarley]

@Rachiejane1 No, but I respect Muslim women who do not allow themselves to be treated thus, the ones who don't wear hijab and the ones who wear hijab completely by their own choice. I am Christian, and in my faith, sex is not even noticed - men and women are equal. Unfortunately, this isn't the common idea, but it is the idea that I gained from studying the Bible myself. Peace <3

[Rachiejane1]

@kittycatcarley You must have a different Bible to mine then (don't mean to offend you and I have nothing against you but I see different when I read the Bible) x

[kittycatcarley]

@Rachiejane1 No, it's okay, I know what you mean, but if your have taken Bible history and interpretation classes, as well as religious studies classes, you'll probably find differently. Or maybe not, a lot of understanding the Bible is interpretation...

[PantheraAtrox]

@kittycatcarley , you got that right. There is no freer FAITH than to live in love with CHRIST.

I don't see CHRISTIANS anywhere, circumcising women the way these Islamic's do in various countries, cutting them in such a barbaric way they cannot even enjoy sex?!

Is that privilege /enjoyment which is revered for the men only?

Crazy.

Or how about in certain "extreme" Islamic sects their women are completely covered from head to toe living their entire lives as a walking tent?

Crazy.

[fanoflittleman]

@PantheraAtrox this is all the emnity the serpent has with the woman. these things will be judged..mohammed is receiving his punishment and so will all his followers

[LogicTalk1]

@PantheraAtrox Women circumcising is not an islamic practise, it's people who mostely live in Africa. Men circumcising is a must for Muslim & Jews.

Why do you object to women freedom of choice? If women chose to wear Bikini that's her choice, if they chose to wear pants that's up to them...Why is it hard for people to accept what Muslim women have to wear? It's her choice not yours. By the way Christian women must keep their mouth shut in the church don't ask question nothing & that's fine too

[PantheraAtrox]

@LogicTalk1 , True but what woman would want to live out their lives as a walking tent or have their womanhood cut out?

Crazy!

[PantheraAtrox]

@PantheraAtrox AMEN THAT KittyCatCarely, women are not property.

[courtesy55]

@PantheraAtrox

you don't see christians circumcising their women allow me to introduce you to reality, search for this on youtube: The Terror of the Female Circumcision in Christianity

[PantheraAtrox]

@courtesy55 , Galatians;5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

Jesus never promoted such a practice.

Will continue my walk with him.

[khalilah40]

@PantheraAtrox Galatians 5:6 is not what Jesus pbuh said. This is Paul speaking.

Also like alot of Paul's teachings, they contridict what Jesus pbuh n all prophets teach. Matthew 5:17-20 Jesus says he has not come to get rid of the laws and teachings of Moses and other prophets b4 him. But 2 bring does teachings back 2 life. No one will enter heaven unless they r more faithful than teachers of law, BY DOING WAT GOD ORDERS.

So wat Paul teaches contridicts Jesus teachings

[PantheraAtrox]

@khalilah40 , Oh really? Such AS?

[fanoflittleman]

@kittycatcarley the Bible says the veil with removed in the last days. we havent seen everything we really are as women..because of the emnity between the woman and the serpent "genesis 3:15" we havent come to our fullest potential..sad to say men have let themselves be vessels for that emnity. God will judge all this. we shouldnt even be having this conversation and have to argue that we are people and deserve same right or dignity as the men. God will judge these false prophets too

[kittycatcarley]

@fanoflittleman :) i agree it is sad.

[SweRaider1993]

@kittycatcarley and yet it was "god" that approved of it....

this is one example that shows just how completly man made "god" is.

you'll notice ALOT of sexism in the bible.

[PantheraAtrox]

@kittycatcarley , Amen that sister in Christ, amen that.

[PantheraAtrox]

@kittycatcarley , Amen that. As Jesus put it, You are worth more than many sparrows.

Meaning people are worth more in the eyes of GOD than beasts.

[BFG8000]

Over three hours? WUT?

[globalchaos1984]

@EternalHappiness22 brainwashed much?

[Bongtasia]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr* that bitch is pissing me off....its wrong im sorry i have no religion but i love God and i do not know islam religion but i know christianiy and she is wrong! and more wrong for speaking like she knows...may God bless your souls have mercy on them please they are ignorant

[realchickrealshit]

if u "knew" christianity, u wudnt say that

[realchickrealshit]

wait wait--which bitch??? LOL

[MrUncleruckus1]

hakos3d, friend please tell me your christian because we need more people like you, and if you are please help me, legarule, and zech1210 in the video islam vs christian, the one with an african american and with a white dude. this also goes to any christian or cathlic friend wanting to fight other religions, please reply to me in this vid and i will check often.

[supersambolina]

I wouldnt be surprised if it was MEN debating on the treatment of women within a religion or outside of religion! After all it was men who dictated in religion how a woman should conduct herself in every aspect of her lives.

[Sethern53]

This message is to Muslimbychoice

So apparently you are saying you choose to be a Muslim because they treat you like you are the same as a man...? And what exactly are you going to do if you die and it turns out Christianity was the true religion...? I atm do not know exactly what religion is true I am just staying simply with Christianity because there bibles not a freaking poem!!!

[jallile]

No wickedness comes anywhere near the wickedness of a woman.....Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die. (Ecclesiasticus 25: 19, 24).

[Sethern53]

Please tell me what you are trying to tell me when you quote the scriptures to me...

[persephone112993]

jallile: everyone is responsible for their own sins. what are you talking about?

[Rachiejane1]

@jallile Exactly - yes - that's what it says in the Bible

[jallile]

each prophets come in a specific time where something was more popular example Moses (pbh) come in the time where magic was popular in Egypt .. Jesus come in time where medicine (healing ) was popular.. for the prophet Muhammad (pbh) he come to a time where language poetry was high value in the society

[ryukenb2k]

Salam 2 u and family.truth will always stand clear from lies, jesus(pbuh) I will send to you a invitation in a friendly dialogue. I will present my case why christianity has much innovation and god willing I hope you are a humble christian and have patience as I do.all praise be to our creater

[jallile]

from the interview .."The man asked (from the country of Belgium) approximately forty million dollars or slightly less and it (Belgium) hurried in sending the money to him out of fear that this opportunity will be lost. Belgium sent the money in a very short time, and he (the missionary) paid this money to the parents of the youth and I can only call it buying and selling, there is no other name for it. The result was that 30,000 children were made Christian and baptized in the churches.

[jallile]

another question if this Islam religion was so bad so evil like some people are saying why so many people are converted to the religion ? maybe what u think is bad maybe is good for u ...don't let media or event a Muslim because he may say he is a Muslim but don't act like one. no answer is better when u try to found it by yourself be opened minded because if u not you will learned nothing ...

[lesterclaypool1]

actually more people ar leaving islam every ,,, more than you think 6 million a year in africa alone ,,,, for the reasons  of ,,, child marrages , islam still beheads people , stones people ,,, and of the sevensleepers of ephesus

[jallile]

so u saying before Islam they were no child marriage stone at people and other stuff ... so because of Islam all this is happening stop it because your making no sense at all ... don't confuse religion and custom/Culture ... where did you get this number of 6million ?

[lesterclaypool1]

not at all im saying these practises are happening today in islam ,,,,,,, and child marriages , ok show me  any other religion that uphold this sick peodphile behavour ,,,, please just name it ,,, i can prove what im saying , that this happen TODAY ,,,, google the 6 million or look here thats just africa ,,,, why are so many muslim leaving the middle east ? to get away from the culture ? and practises ?

[jallile]

Arranged marriages have been the tradition in Indian society and African (whatever the religion), China for centuries. Even today an overwhelming majority of Indians in India and African people from Congo .. Angola.. Kenya have their marriages planned by their parents and other respected family-members. so don't say it's only in Islam .... u trying to say because they are leaving the Middle East their are not Muslim ....

[hakos3d]

Wow! I am amazed at your research. I can tell that you have read a lot about this religion and that you also have read the Book of this religion besides the history of its revealation. I am looking forward for your enlighting us people.

[jallile]

u right but i guess u did not read what Christian where doing to those Muslim people so they can convert or leave Islam ... i read the interview about the 6 million this was not for child things or whatever ... i guess u did not read how Christian missionary A Belgian missionary by the name of Sabeh came to Somalia and purchased 30,000 Muslim youth, he took advantage of their parents poverty, and we all know the terrible situation that Somalia face...

[persephone112993]

i converted to islam when i was only 15! and i choose to continue living my life that way. people that say bad things about islam obviously dont understand the religion

[mrblurblur2003]

@persephone112993 You are a fool. Do you know you have to clean your dick and arsehole every minute?

[Rachiejane1]

@persephone112993 That's great but no need to say that people who say bad things about the religion don't understand it. They just see it in a different way to you...

[jallile]

people if you don't know about Islam just shut up because all crap you hear from the media is just disgusting..... so over here people are saying Muslim to this or that... if a christian kill his wife and i say u see this is Christianity you would say no because you know ur religion and this not the way ....

[persephone112993]

exactly!

[Obataladance]

Saudi arabia goverment is a puppet of USA.,there good muslims who love and protect their only wife better than most western men. There is a question of each individual love in their heart, nothing to do with islam or christianity. In france every day at least 2 women die at the hands of men and almost no one talk about it. Domestic violence is a huge problem in the west but is hidden. Dont believe the hype, there is god and bad everywhere and here in the west women are sold naked in publicities.

[Pacisdiligo]

How about using reason and objectivity to judge? Thank "God" in the west, women have gained at least a substantial measure of equality with men. However, as Muslims gain ground in Europe, women can expect those gains to diminish. Scary.

[jallile]

did u see most of the women in Western country i bet at least one of them .. has had kiss our had sex with another women ...

[bringmefreedom]

Q4:34 teaches us to beat our wives

Is that concept women in Islam?

get ready to be beaten by her husband?

In muslim countrries such as: Afghan, Saudia who adopted Sharia Law, women / girl are forbidden to travel alone, she must be accompanied by male relatives

And many of them (women) are prepared to be second, third or fourth wife

I don't know but this doesn't make sense at all

[saoud86]

what is the context of the verse?

DO YOU KNOW?

[bringmefreedom]

Men are in charge of women... As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them

(Pickthall's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

Muslim have been taught how to beat their wife

How to beat your wife

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[saoud86]

Dawud :: Book 11 : Hadith 2138

Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah:

I said: Apostle of Allah, how should we approach our wives and how should we leave them? He replied: Approach your tilth when or how you will, give her (your wife) food when you take food, clothe when you clothe yourself, do not revile her face, and do not beat her.

[bringmefreedom]

Hadith Tabari

Tabari IX:113 "Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms to beat them, but not severely. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals"

Tabari I:280 "Allah said, women of this world menstruate and are stupid."

[saoud86]

hold on before jumping to another allegation, what do you say about the hadith that i quoted from Dawud :: Book 11 : Hadith 2138, if you havent said any thing it means that you agree with me that the Prophet mohamed PBUH stopped his companions from beating wife.

And if you have guts just allow me to email you, any one can misinterpret Islam by quoting few verses of the Quran and Hadith, AND INSHA ALLAH (God willingly) I WILL INTRODUCE U TO TRUE ISLAM

[bringmefreedom]

Accept Islam means I have to accept Sharia also, cut hand, beheaded, and can have wives to 4, and again I have to kill infidel.

Sorry, I am not a killer, I don't want to kill anybody for Allah or for whatever god

I don't want to be jihad like the guys who attacked Mumbai, WTC 9/11, bali bomb etc.

[a5n8e8]

Leviticus 20:9

" 'If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head.

Leviticus 20:13

" 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

[MoShow3000]

no your wrong. to accept islam (the truth) you just need to say the shihada.

thats it

you can do it whenever, whereever.

you dont have to be in a certain place, wear certain cloths, look a certain way....why

because its between you and your creator. no one else.

[bringmefreedom]

Accept Islam means they give you one way ticket, once you enter you can't never go out alive. Especially in muslim country. You will be lost your friend, jobs, social life, even your life.

[MoShow3000]

no you are wrong, if one accepts islam...

1 - they will see the truth and peace islam holds and most likey would not ant to go back ect

2 - if he/she chooses to, then it is upto that person to do so. no one forces islam onto others, if one does that goes against islam. we only show and tell people the truth. dont you want to know the truth.if not fine. you live your life and i live mine.

have a nice life.

god bless

peace

[TheOrientalvoice]

u r talkin about culture not about a religion , if a christian became muslim in a muslim country the christians wants to kill him , its only a conservative culture , which u find in all the religions in some lands of the middle east for example, thats all

[bringmefreedom]

between you and your creator. no one else.

Hellloooo... are you sleeping???

Tell me why women had got killed in Afghan when she went to school or market and gad got beaten in Saudi when she out alone

You are nonsense like your creator

[MoShow3000]

that isnt islamic is it. prove to me it is

thats the crazy individuals who done hit like that.

just like you have christians rapist, jewish murderers, hindu criminals, muslim criminals.

no one is perfect but islam doesn't teach any violence at all to others. what you see on tv that isnt islam, prove to me it is islam if it is.

islam is the fastest growing religion on earth, if it is nonsense, if it is evil why do more women than men convert each year?

islam = peace, thats truth, fact

[ReligionIsSophistry]

The difference is that only religion protects the murders, rapists, child molesters and criminals. Government is there to protect people from religion, they don't always do a good job of it.

[MoShow3000]

you know the so called Christians who have invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Jordon, Lebanon, Gaza ect

have you not seen the news on all the rapes that go on from USA soldiers to innocent women over there???

oh no the western media dont show that!!!!!!!

the USA and UK soldiers blow up your house, destroy your land, murder your wife, your kids, your friends, destroy your life and what do America and the UK want...

FOR THEM TO SHAKE THEIR HAND AND ALL GET ALONG????

i think you need to wake up

[bringmefreedom]

the USA and UK soldiers blow up your house?

What will you do in batlle field, renovate your enemy's house? Of course they have to bomb them in order to get the rats

You can't compare them to suicidal bomb (muslim terrorist), they are moron, they bomb whoever

What Peace?

[MoShow3000]

1 - why are soldiers killing innocent people, blowing up innocnet homes, what would you do???

2 - hahah look at you and how you label a muslim as a terrorits (typical foolish media run minded) you know many people alot the media to run and cntrol their asses simply because they cant/dont want to think for themselve so you rely on wester corrupt media which is clearly false and just want to attack islam.

open your eyes, dont just sit on your fat ass all day long watching corrupt news. pathetic

[jallile]

what is the difference between USA , UK and a suicidal bomber ... just to say that if you see  all your family get killed i don't think you will see the difference between innocents people or whatever because hatred , anger , vengeance become your friend ...

[ReligionIsSophistry]

SEE, all religions should be abolished, it makes people go insane!

[jallile]

i just think if the so call christian people really apply the law of the bible .. it will be like the sharia ....

[bringmefreedom]

The Christian people are never apply bible into law, but the law is inspired by bible, yes

Not like your people, adopt 100% from Quran without filtering and what you've got:

Beheaded, throwing stones, cut hands, beat your wive

Make your people today like man in desert around middle age, primitive and cruel

[jallile]

the law inspired by the Bible i can tell u really know Ur religion first God Never send the Bible i don't know where this name is come from (even in the bible the word bible is not mention)... u say that the christian people never apply bible into law and the law is inspired by the bible so all those things going ""Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. " Jesus (pbh)

[a5n8e8]

Acts 18:5-7

5 When Silas and Timothy came from Macedonia, Paul devoted himself exclusively to preaching, testifying to the Jews that Jesus was the Christ.

6 But when the Jews opposed Paul and became abusive, he shook out his clothes in protest and said to them, "Your blood be on your own heads! I am clear of my responsibility. From now on I will go to the Gentiles."

[cadenza46]

One would think that this only happened centuries ago. It is shocking to see how masses of people learn to live with this, and make great efforts to keep it going and expand it

[fanoflittleman]

the religion still teaches women are to be beaten and are not as intelligent as men..you cant get past the immature quotes from mohammed about women..anyone who thinks this was inspired of God is just kidding themselves and cant face the truth..especially women in this religion...

[hudfadz]

and i think your just upset cause this lecture has made you think twice about the bible and its teaching of women, and now you are upset that this women talking is better then you in every way, infact her toe nail is worth more then your hole life you idiot, why you upset, at the truth she speaks?

[ReligionIsSophistry]

The Global Gender Gap Index

examines the gap between men and women in four fundamental categories: economic participation and opportunity, educational attainment, political empowerment and health and survival.

top 20 has no Muslim countries, the worst 20 are all Muslim except India. The Atheist countries have the least discrimination against women.

[hudfadz]

and on top of all that, why dont you share with us now what the bible sais about women?

[ReligionIsSophistry]

It was horrible! the stuff of nightmares! Women in the Bible were just property to be used as slaves, they were were wed for political reasons and killed and raped, much like in Islam.

[UmarRaoSen]

Brother, do not tell Islam treats women in this manner I request you to read Quran first and understand then put a comment

[kgshahid2]

Once again you do not finish the verse.

18(A)Wives, (B)be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. 19(C)Husbands, love your wives and do not be embittered against them. 20(D)Children, be obedient to your parents in all things, for this is well-pleasing to the Lord.

[Louloux0]

I was a weak Muslim. I mean, a Muslim by name cause I was thinking that freedom is a must,and I needed it to be strong,to be happy.But when I came to live in Canada,I saw the result of the pretended (freedom). I saw the world in mess.I quickly understood that ISLAM is the right way to be happy, to be strong. So,I wore HIJAB and I started to read about ISLAM.ALLAH wants people to enjoy their life but they just don't get the message.

[renchaz]

The Qur'an guarantees every Muslim woman certain rights and duties.

Qur'an - 4:34 Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allâh has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient to Allâh and to their husbands

[kgshahid2]

You left out the best part!

quran 4:34

"guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great."

Women are mere cattle in islam, property of men and without rights!

[vagitoe]

You forgot my favorite bible verse!

Colossians 3:18

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord."

Women are mere dogs that need be submisive to their masters, men.

[kgshahid2]

21(E)Fathers, do not exasperate your children, so that they will not lose heart.

No where does it say women are dogs. But it sure says beat your wives in muhammads quran! The Bible says for husbands to love their wife as they love themselves.

You retarded muslim!

[vagitoe]

Christians are subject to God, we can love him also, but we are servants to him first, out of love. In this way, so to should wives be onto their husbands, and husbands onto their wives.

Husbands, love your wives, and they will be subject to you, and in this, wives, you to should love your husbands, but you are subject to them first, as is fitting in the Lord.

In summary, wives are subjects to their husbands, husbands only love their wives.

Also, you are a Nazi, so shut up/

[hudfadz]

you have not read the hole quran so how do you know? i have read both before i was a muslim and i have to say the bible is the most filthy book that should be taken off the shelves in every aspect and regarding women, the quran is just amazing towards women, dont take your verses out of context and dont lie. here this, if a women is raped in the bible she is forced to marry her attacker if he pays her father a few cents, dont talk crap, the quran libirates women, read it then talk.

[hudfadz]

just ask me and i will message you over 25 verses in your bible that completely destroys the women in every way, just ask, if you read the hole bible and focus on women in christianity you will be ashamed to call your self christian, women in the bible are treated and men are ordered to treat them like filth, objects and hores, in islam... it is said, the best of you man are those who are best to there wives, you can not compare women in christianity to women in islam, you are ignorant its clear

[kgshahid2]

I'm ignorant? At least I know that a" hole" is a hollowed-out place: as a cave, pit, or well in the ground.

And "whole" is constituting the total sum or undiminished entirety.

You cant even spell so why should I ask you anything? Your just another deranged muslim who worships muhammad and the pagan moon god named allah! So piss off you idiot.

[hudfadz]

you wont ask me to message you those verses in the bible that destroys women? why? you want proof or you happy being ignorant to the truth in your own book, how sad, the bible is a filthy book with filthy rules and laws, you say i worship a pagan moon god named Allah? look whos talking, a christian, pagan of all pagans, what was god called before the word "god" came to be 1000 years ago? answer that, and while your at it explain the concept of the trinity, share it with us.

[kgshahid2]

The first name God gives himself is Elohim, and why would I ask a muslim idiot about the Bible? You cant understand it! Your mind has been drug through the gutters of islam, you probably cant even muster up an original thought!

[hudfadz]

you should ask me about the bible cause i know about it more then you do! my mind has been set by the truth of islam and the falsehood of christianity! i thank god i have nothing to do with that filthy bible, a book of fairy tales and incest.

[itubeToodles]

only a fool would believe that islam is the truth honey

[hudfadz]

no sorry, only logical people who understand and reflect believe and accept islam as the truth honey, only a complete fool blinded by their elders and have not read the bible and its filthy rules, laws and teachings can believe christianity or jewdaism is the truth, they were once upon a tie but man currupted the scriptures and now its only for ppl who want to believe in fairy tales, have you read all the quran before making a judgment? well i have read the bible and its filth should be banned

[itubeToodles]

Actually i have read the bible and if there is a book that should be banned it is the Quran. Let's see, i am going to write a book about unicorns and in the middle i will say "Those who are not pink should be killed". Do you think my book would hit the shelfs? No. So what is the difference between that book and the Quran? none

[hudfadz]

the quran teaches self defence only, no killing of anything, you havent read aything in the quran in context, the bible... well if you read it then you would of noticed, incest, rape, murder, mass murder, cruelity, anger, madness, nakedness, genocides, ethnic cleansing, women opressesion, women degrading, fairy tale storys, childish scientific guesses, prostitution, all potrayed in a noble way, all encouraged, plus many more, you want some examples? you have not read the hole bible you lie

[itubeToodles]

self defence? really? that's a laugh -_-

all the things you have said...isn't that everything your perfect example of a man, prophet Moohamhead, is?

Actually i am reading ithe bible right now. If i find these things are encouraged ( which i doubt btw )...well, i will probably convert, but not to Islam. I would rather be dead.

[hudfadz]

muhamed pbuh is a perfect example of a human, the best of all creation, just read about him, i challenge you to read either in the quran or hadith any demand to kill people in war other then self defence, u can never find, unlike the bible, and as for you reading your bible and can not find any of these things i talk about then again i dare you to ask me to message you passages and verses in context, dont be ignorant and critisize religion when you dont even know yours, be wise and read first

[itubeToodles]

Muhamed (pnbuh) is not the best of all creations. He owned slaves, murdered, slaughtered, raped, kept many wifes one of which was 6 years old (daughter of his brother) , was not forgiven, was cruel, born an idolater, liar & a killer.

Do not be mistaken. he will never be the perfect example of a human.

[hudfadz]

LOL look at this, your a joke, your a ignorant fool, just by reading your comment i can clearly see that your either 13 years old or just a realy ignorant hater who knows nothing about islam, christianity and God or the prophets or history and facts, type in dave hunt vs shabir ally and watch that debate all the way to the end and whenn its done go jump off a bridge or just curl up in a ball and cry your self to sleep every night asking your self why why why. lol

[itubeToodles]

Or not... just a question: if i jump off a bridge it is most likely that i would die right? So how can i after that curl up and cry?

Do not bother awnsering back... I know i wont

[ReligionIsSophistry]

Bukhari:V3B48N826 "The Prophet said, 'Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?' The women said, 'Yes.' He said, 'This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind.'"

Volume 2, Book 23, Number 386: The crying of the women at a funeral was disturbing the prophet so he told a man to go out and throw dirt in their mouths.

He ordered the man in an adultery situation to be flogged and the woman to be stoned to death.

He did not think much of women.

[hudfadz]

firstly, why dont you put the hole hadith in context? when the qwomen were crying the prophet ordered them thru a companion to tell them to stop, twice, then at the end told him to put dust in their mouths, that is symbolic you fool, you would understand if you read arabic, do you realy think he had to put dust in their mouths? lol, secondly, why dont you pull out ALL the hadith about the rights of women, equality, caring for them, demanding kindness to women etc etc why? coz you dont want to!

[ReligionIsSophistry]

well you would have noticed all the same themes in the Quran if you bothered to read it. And I did read the whole Bible, it is horrific! So is the Quran, both are the stuff of nightmares. I read them both when I was looking for a religion, but I grew up and put aside childish things like religion.

[hudfadz]

why dont u tell us wen the prophet ordered the ppl to treat women like glass, with care and gentleness coz they are fragile, or wen he sais, the best of you man are the ones who r best to their wives, or why not tell us wen he said the lowest of men are the ones who hurt womens feelings, or wen he sais, paradise is at the feet of the mother, or women are free to divorce, marry who they like, or women are like pearls, or its a mans duty to please his wife etc etc why dont u mention these hadith?

[ReligionIsSophistry]

You go find them and tell me which ones they are, I bet you can't.

[hudfadz]

only a few hundred years ago christians were still in debate if women were human or not, only a hundred years ago christians were in debate if a women is clean enough to touch a bible, still now it is a great sin to divorce in christianity, women are not allowed to talk in churches in christianity, they should cover there hair in the bible, they are made prostitutes in the bible, they are forced into incest the the bible, they are degraded with nakedness in the bible so what are you on about?

[riciraimi]

What does GOD say? Do you believe that there is a Spirit? Forget the worldly "facts"- information gets pretty jacked up in the wrong hands. Truth, Justice, MERCY-these are more weightier matters.

[lumel666]

well if you want to believe im god ur welcome :) if u need rules to live your live contact me and ill be willing to set u up with some good stuff hehe, now seriously humans have always believed in werid stuff mostly because they realised they were alone in this world and needed an explanation for that. Look up 'the history of god' a book im reading now which explains exactly what i mean. It will not make u atheist (incase ur afraid) it will just put all the religions in perspective. btw 666=cool

[mtufts]

just because you WANT an explanation, doesn't mean it's TRUE. i want to know the answers to life's big questions, but i dont just choose a religion because it offers an explanation. i know it's hard to feel like you don't understand life, but maybe it's meant to be a mystery.

[lumel666]

youre right i shouldve said ALL religions try and keep you from doing anything else than following their particular doctrine and spread it to the other peoples.You should read any anthropology book about the history of mankind and then you will understand how stupid you sound when you claim that your belief is 'the only one' or 'the true one' if you choose to believe in it was because you where born into it the one you knew form small, or would you believe in the greek gods? i think not!

[lumel666]

As for religion itself, it is just by luck that ISLAM/CHRISTIANITY survived, there are and where many thousands of religions before yours, so you have no right to say yours is the true one (if thats even possible) because odds are youres is not.

[Ahmadlion]

"by luck.." by chance bla bla.. pure rational logic! lol

[lumel666]

To all the people here who think they are moslims, [i say 'think' because none of you really are, if you really were you would live according to ALL the rules in the book, not only the ones you want to use(just like christians)]. Believeing in something doesnt make it true, And to the one who said we have a 'choice' that is complete BS, if youre born in a moslim family you are forced to be moslim same thing counts for most of the other religions.

[carosinsoles]

Well this woman. One thing is the religion and another the culture. On thing it is what is written in text and what is really being applied.

[P3AC3F1GHT]

Western talk of women's liberation or emancipation is actually a disguise form of exploitation of her body, deprivation of her honour, and degradation of her soul!

[MAK4V3LI]

mrpennyo, You are the biggest moron on Earth. Firstly how can you say you are a Muslim when you tryin' to say you was forced to be a Muslim?? A Muslim is sum1 who chooses on his free will to be a Muslim. Secondly i think u aint no Muslim at all if u was you would have known that Islam does not preaches all Muslims to kill anyone againts Islam or not a Muslim. Islam clearly states fight those who tryin' to fight you and respect all human being no matter what religion they got..get ur facts str8

[hevenslite]

umm lumel666 the brainwashing of the media and this godless society has influenced u very much.u think ur intelligent,by bluring out watever!if ur gona accuse religion for being num 1 biggest muderer produce ur evidence...wat ws hitler,mousilini,pol pot list is endless.wat drove them to kill it ws all 4 power!

[mrpennyo]

Hevenslite... your the biggest moron on youtube. Hitler, Mousilini, pol pol and so on did not kill because their religion told them to. They killed because they are inhuman and evil. Islam preaches to all Muslims to kill anyone against Islam or not a Muslim. How do I know that??? I am a Muslim, not by choice, but by birth. That means I am not allowed to be anything else.

[mistockholm]

And another message to mrpennyo: Read Verily, those who believe, THEN DISBELIEVE, THEN BELIEVE (AGAIN), AND AGAIN DISBELIEVE, and go on increasing in disbelief; Allâh will not forgive them, nor guide them on the (Right) Way. (An-Nisa 4:137) After reading that you still claim Islam preaces to kill disbelievers? WHy do you spread lies about something you have no knowledge? Peace.

[mrpennyo]

You go read the Quran. I can find proof in the Quran where it tells Muslims to kill non Muslims. I need to know if you speak Arabic or just English.

[JC23333]

man you obvoiosuly dont know what ur on about

[MLalah]

Christian husbands don't force their wives and daughters to wear a rag on their heads.

Christianity does NOT butcher women's bodies in FGM. (female genital mutilation)

Jesus taught above love, forgiveness, redemption, healing.

Mohammed apparently teaches his followers to commit jihad on anyone who has a different set of beliefs.

[gilmoreonetree]

RAGS?!?!!?! Its meant to be MODEST. Where the HECK are you getting your information from? Your own stupid brain.

And if you really knew about Islam, they do not BUTCHER women's bodies. Any men who did that is NOT called a muslim. He may call himself a muslim, but in true nature, he is not.

Stop being a pathetic fool, and believing crap. It disgusts me

[mrpennyo]

Why would he call himself a Muslim if in true nature he is not???? You dont make any sense. Islam is an evil religion. Disrespects all religion and all women. You want proof???? Go to Saudia Arabia and see how women are treated, since Saudia is the biggest Islamic country in the world.

[mistockholm]

Indonesia is the biggest Islamic country in the world.. Arab nations are only 18% of the Muslims. Better read more about Muslims and read Quran and see if Islam really disrespects other religions and women!

[WildernessSurvivor]

jihad is not only military you know. i learned that in grade school, there are 6 different typeso f jihad

[jallile]

the saddest thing is that you don't even know why God say to women to wear this .... who do u think God will like more a women where we see her String and all king of stuff or a women who is dressing like the mother of Jesus ... MODESTY ...are u really a christian

[lesterclaypool1]

realy then the men should learn some self control should they ? look up muslim rape ,,,, according to islam if a woman is raped it her fault and shes the one punished ,,, look it up ,,, but it doesnt matter because you commit TAQIYYAH . AND WE BOTH KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT

[hakos3d]

You are LYING period. Show me the verse stating such a thing! I can show you cultures doing this, but not religion, especially Islam. There is nooo such verse (guaranteed) that suggests the punishment of a raped woman. Both adulterers get hit a number of times. Look at Deuteronomy 22:13 and on in 'your' Bible. Just look! And tell me here what you understood. Talk to me in VERSES please both for Islam and Christianity. I have every answer you are looking for my friend... Peace ...

[ryukenb2k]

As salam alaikum brother or sister, mashallah you talk haq and deliver dawah well, I refute many kaffirs and they run away. they insult Allah and rasool(saw) you can check my page and see the hate. I keep the insults so the honest people and kaffirs can see.Tawheed is our sword against the kaffiroon

[hakos3d]

As-Salaamt you to. Here brother:

[13:22] They steadfastly persevere in seeking their Lord, observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), spend from our provisions to them secretly and publicly, and counter evil with good. These have deserved the best abode.

[41:34] Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend.

[TruthbHeard]

I agree that horible things hav been done on the name of God but first i ask u, do u believe that us being alive is a coincidense? The sky, male, female, eyes, animals, plants? Muslims believe that God has put us on the earth as keepers of peace and justice. I would prob be atheist if The quran didnt hav sceintific facts and a model of how lead a pure life.

[lumel666]

Im not even gonna discuss evolution with you, since you have looked at it and still believe in a creator.. what i can say to you is if you are happy with your "imaginary-supreme-beings-who-­are-perfect" then fine..

i would recommend reading/studying evolution and what scientist have to say

other good reading /watching Richard Dawkings, James Randi,Michael Shermer,Stephen Hawking

[frozenimran]

I know, I know, Muslims actually believe in alot of evolutionist ideas such as the Big bang theory, survival of the fittest, Evolution it self. But the only concept not bought is weather we descended from apes, Evolutioist call it the "missing link" the final evidence to confirm this, and it hasnt been confirmed yet. The Quran revealed to us all the evolutionist ideas 1400 years ago but nothing bout monkeys. Dont believe me google it, peace.

[areudun187]

Science is not only biology you know. Look at astrophyics and mathematics and you will see that alternative universes, invisible forces, particles, matter, and dimensions of space are theoretically possible. So you saying that we should look at science is disengenious. You need to open your mind and look at the entire scientific discipline and you will realise that no scientific theory is entirely complete, there are always possibilities for the theory to be not true in some cases.

[lumel666]

what the hell is this crap?

Islam forces woman to cover their body Christians dont im not defending Cristians but at least we dont hit our woman for not wearing a scarf of for looking at other men

that being said im for the abolition of religion (the single biggest murderer of all time) and truly belief that religion is the true evil in this world and should be slain by logic/rational and critical thikning

thnx

LML666

[TruthbHeard]

PPl themselves interpret religion wrongly or purposly for their own violent use such as Muslim extremist, The Holy church During Crusades, etc.. Women in Islam are given protection and yes some ppl abuse women everywhere but in Islam wounding or leaving marks is forbiden. Light hits are allowed if shes gona do something insane such as murder (very unlikly). The prophet never hit his wives and said "the best among men is those who are kind to their wife."