Story about Mameluks of Egypt

[intezam]

These books inspired later archery treatises such as "Kitab fi bayau fadl al-qaws w-al-sahm wa-awsufihima" and "Kitab ghunyat at-tullab fi marifat ramy an-mushshab". These are all very interesting historical books.

[intezam]

Kipchaqs were fearless warriors.The reason why medieval Arabs employed them as soldiers and generals was, that these people were familar with Mongol war tactics using the composite bow (which was previously shunned by Arabs as an evil Persian/Saka invention).The Mamluk Kipchaqs wrote many powerfull books on archery such as Munyatu'l-ghuzat and Kitab fi ‘Ilm an Nushshab and the reflexed horn bow was quickly adopted by Arabs and also in Mamluk India. Kipchaqs were also considered beautiful.

[Hark0nnin]

And if you're interested to know where the Circassians' country is its in the Republic of Adygeya, a member of the Russians Federation.

[sawanoovel]

ya but under russian dicks now .

most circassians were butchered by the russians , something i respect really , they knew how to deal with such humans

just like how mohammed ali and egyptians butchered all the circassians memluks of egypt

this is how such people shoul be treated

then why do we egyptians respect russians lol

[Hark0nnin]

Very true, I've read about that. Except it was Mohammed Ali and his fellow Albanians who did the killing.

[sawanoovel]

he later killed albanians also , he was ahamed of being albanian lol

[Hark0nnin]

I would say that Mohammad Ali was only for himself. Anyone who got in his way was fair game.

[sawanoovel]

the most important thing to me is that during his time native egyptian took controll of everything in egypt

[sawanoovel]

the memluk " kipchack turks " were excellent leaders and showed respect for everyone , but then when the " circassian memluks overthrew them " egypt was shit , they killed anyone who is non-circassians and caused trouble and civil wars broke out and the country became weaker

good russians killed those faggets

[Hark0nnin]

Plus, its easier to put down local revolts when your army has no ties to the community they are suppressing.

[sawanoovel]

plus circasseans are fucked , raped , and owned everywhere

tell me where is your country on the map bitch lol

[Hark0nnin]

True, they were getting sold to all corners of the Middle East. My country on the map is this really big one over in the Western Hemisphere. You might know it, its called the United States of America. Since you asked and all.

[sawanoovel]

and most of this state are russian lol .

its a russian land and the circassians there under russian dicks

thank them for keeping several thousands of your people walking alive

[Hark0nnin]

Uh, I'm not Circassian. They aren't my people. I'm a Texan.

[sawanoovel]

so where you originally from lol

[Hark0nnin]

Mamluks were recruited from a number of ethnicities and races. They had Turks, Mongols, Armenians, Georgians, Circassians, Greeks, Russians, etc. They were mostly Caucasian because the Mamluks themselves believed that native Egyptians did not make good soldiers.

[sawanoovel]

lol but they used them in armies you bitch fucker

[Hark0nnin]

Yeah, as garrison troops and cannon fodder. Its true that they used them in rather large numbers, but in a second-rate capacity.

[9GokTurkOrhun9]

Mameluks or Kolemens (means im am slave) were Turkic and not arap semetic bastards.

Real Kipchak Turks...

[sawanoovel]

there were egyptian memluks also bastard , most of the army were egyptian people .

on the other hand , the mongol monkeys of turkey were fighting in the mongol army and got owned

hahahahaha

[9GokTurkOrhun9]

you are the great bastard (mix of english and gay greek fuck)

[sawanoovel]

your the bitch , mixture of hairy mongols and niggars slave

[debashir]

The lingua franca of the Mamluk sultanate during both the Bahri and Burgi(Circassian) periods was Qipchaq, a Turkic language. Turkic mamluks hailed from the Qipchaq Steppe. the house-language of the Mamluk military corps, and its court, were Qipchaq Turkish. It is for this reason that the Arabophone natives of the Sultanate in Egypt and Greater Syria referred to the Mamluks as Dawlat al-Atrak, the regime of the Turks. If most of the army were egyptians, why they didn't speak in egyptian?

[sawanoovel]

fuck your mother bitch

[9GokTurkOrhun9]

the son of a bitch ( a mix english and greek sperm) you gypsie araps will never learn the real history about your bastard nation.

Eventhogh you think throuh the islam you are something but you are nothing, nothing else gypsie.

Fuck your sister!

[adolfrekoo]

long live great Egypt

it was last major Islamic power to stop this empire from taking over the world

but we can't call the armies who defeated Mongols Turkish or Egyptian they were all Muslims

[balkanturkic]

memluks were mongol ? hahah memluks were from turkic tribes idiotS !

[whitefacechina]

our mongolia is a best cavalry in the world.nobody can defeat us.mamluk is very numerous. the mongolia soldier is a little troops.

[alania1ossetia]

no its the total opposite. mongols were great by number. but mamluks were specialized and well trained cavalary. they were not much but very brave

[amadeus987]

Got to Mno3at channel on youtube, he has the series about Baybars, so far he uploaded the first 27 episodes. Its in Arabic though.

[Punkdout871]

Wooot, Hockey with horses ! Ftw :D (!)

[ADZ01982]

Yet again them attacks were carried out by a few Islamics extremeists. How many innocents has the U.S killed in Iraq ? Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.

[ADZ01982]

Lets not forget that the 9-11 attacks were carried out by a small criminal religous group. They do not speak for the entire Islamic world.

[ADZ01982]

How many millions has the U.S killed since WW2 ?

[ADZ01982]

Oh you never mentioned that the U.S supported the Ottomans when the Greeks were fighting for independence.

[ADZ01982]

I am as white as they come pal, maybe you should read a history book or two. Educate yourself.

[ADZ01982]

Excellent fighters, they defeated the best Christians armies and Mongol armys.

[McBinary]

True, the Mamlukes are forgotten by Europe despite their awesome prowess and track record against the crusaders and even the "unstoppable" mongols. This was after their greatest general had passed on.

[ADZ01982]

Agreed, although the Mongol was only at half its original size because after the death of the Mongol leader there was a a claim to power to the Mongol leadership and the general in charge of that Mongol army halved his army and charged back to Mogolia and China to stake his claim to power, leaving his under strengthed army to fight the Mamlukes, which was wiped out.

[KU106]

there was 4 battles, first ayn jalut, were mongols lost, then they came back, in the battle of homs 1, they lost, then again battle of homs 2, they lost, then again battle of homs 3 where they lost again completely! Not because they were egyption, turkish, or whatever nationality, they were Muslims! They were the ones who stopped this empire from taking over the world, now they are stopping another evil force, new world order from taking over the world!

[KU106]

check this out Battle of "Marj al-Saffar" these are hardly known in history. Because there are again evil forces covering up the truth.

[tttarek]

رحم الله الملك الظاهر ركن الدين بيبرس

فقد كان ركنا للإسلام

[ozmanbro]

english subtitles?

[efraz]

Ne Hunu? ne mö 300'ü neler diyosun?

Bak ben sana güzel bir şey söylüyorum oku derken neyi okuman gerektiğini söyleyeyim hemen. Divan-i Lugat-it Türk. Neden çünkü konu Baybars yani ortaçağ. Deşt-i Kıpçak yani ortaçağdaki Kıpçak yurdu. konumuz Hunlar değil şu an. Hunlar eskiçağ step tarihiyle ilgilidir Kıpçaklardan söz bile edemeyiz o tarihte. Çin sınırından batıya göç ettiklerini ancak tahmin edebiliyoruz. Kıpçakların diğer ismini merak ediyorsan bu ogur değil dostum KUMANdır.

benden bu kadar.

[ridvanco]

debashir

yok birade , zaten kipcak tukleri bati turkleri diye gecer , ogur lardir ! yani bir zamanlar dogudaki oguzlar ile bir olan bir koldur.

[efraz]

Değildir efenim. Divan-i Lugat-it Türk'e bakınız. Oğuz ve Kıpçaklar iki farklı Türk koludur.

[ridvanco]

ya ben ne diyorum sen ne diyorsun !ogur(kypcak) ve oguz boyu ...

[efraz]

Kıpçaklar ne ogurdur ne de oğuz. Bir kitap aç da bak.

[ridvanco]

efraz bana kipcak ne demek ogur ne demek acikla once sonra konus !

[efraz]

Bilmiyosan neyi açıklayayım dostum? Neyse tartışmaya gerek yok çok basit bir bilgi meselesi bu. Kıpçaklar oğuz değildir nokta.

[ridvanco]

birader kicpaklar bati turkleri diye gecmezlermi ! ogurlara bak bakalim ne olarak tabir edilmisler! ya konusma tamamm..

[efraz]

Mantığın şu mu?

Kıpçaklar Batı Türküdür. Eh Ogurlar da Batı türküdür dolayısıyla kıpçaklar ogurdur. Dolayısıyla da Oğuzdur mu diyorsun :)))

O zaman ben daha fazla bir şey demiyorum. Etimoloji, linguistik, 1. el kaynaklar bunlardan hiç söz etmeyelim. Batı türkleriydi di mi? tamam konuşmuyorum zaten niye konuşayım ki?

Kimse iki kitap açmaz zaten türkiyede kendimi yoruyorum sonunda kızıp küfür edeceksin.

[ridvanco]

bak cok bilmis , tahmin edilen m.o.300 oguzlar ikiye ayrilir dogu bati!batililar hatta bu karadenizin kuzeyinde ile kafkasya arasinda iskerderle bile savasmistir!2 kabile vardir biri pun-turki digerini hatirlamadim, bizler ise m.o. 150-200 lerde dahada guneye inip dahada genislemisiz ve tocaryanlilari o topraklardan atip biz yerlesmisiz( hunlar )!oku birader yoksa burada her bilmedigin seye oku diye cevap verme !

[drshowky78]

I will speak here about facts and information which are trust worthy...I read so much about Sultab Baybars...and I will speak only aboyt the info i'm sure about:

1) his origin was from Kazakhistan...that's his ethnicity...but I'm not sure of his tongue...but I'm sure that he knew Arabic at least as a 2nd language.

2) The embassador of Kazakhistan in Cairo/Egypt celebrate annually the memorial of Baybras in his mosque named after him in an area in Cairo called (Dahir)which is the royal title.

[drshowky78]

I will speak here about facts and information which are trust worthy...I read so much about Sultab Baybars...and I will speak only aboyt the info i'm sure about:

1) his origin was from Kazakhistan...that's his ethnicity...but I'm not sure of his tongue...but I'm sure that he knew Arabic at least as a 2nd language.

2) The embassador of Kazakhistan in Cairo/Egypt celebrate annually the memorial of Baybras in his mosque named after him in an area in Cairo called (Dahir)which is the royal title.

[debashir]

Thank you.

His ethnicity wasn't kazak, he was kypchak, but kazaks are direct descendants of kypchak turks, people mustn't call him kazak whatever you call the residents of Kazakstan, many todays kypchak people have a right to claim him, because all of us once were one nation calling ourselves as "kipchak/qypshaq/polovtsy/cuma­n", just check out the wiki any of the words I've typed and you'll understand what I meant...a kypchak from steppes of Desht-i Qipchaq that's who the Baybars was.

[drshowky78]

I'm afraid you have more information about this Sultan than me...that's why I would like to speak with you about this...I have loads of papers about him...and I really would like to exchange information about him.

So...he is not from Kazakhistan?? then why do the embassador of Kazakhistan celebrate his memorial??do you think it is some sort of steeling the man's glory for them??

[debashir]

Oh no no, I didn't claim that he wasn't from Kazakstan, in my opinion 75% he was from Kazakstan, but can't claim that for sure, some people say he was from pre-caspian steppes some say he was from shores of Azov Sea, others calim he was from steppes of Northern Caucasus but for me it doesn't matter at all, because as I've said before all these places once were one country (Dasht-i Kypchak) inhabitated by one united turkic people calling themselves kypchaks

[amadeus987]

By the way, From most of the books I read about Baybars, it is indicated that he was born in the crimea, and Allah knows best.

[debashir]

Steeling from whom? From our own ancestors?

Kazaks wouldn't be offended if for example noghays or tatars would show some respect to his person, because their of the same blood with him, as for me kazaks just are the 1-st people showing so much love to Baybars on such a level that it spreads to media sources and may seem as some kind of a PR, but it ain't like that, steppe folks have leaved very few traces of it's glory and Baybars was a brilliant example, it would be disrespectful to forget him

[tamunia25]

There is a Georgian movie, it's called

"Mamluk", it's about Georgian slave warriors. It's very interesting, i recommend to watch it. And if anyone has it please upload it on youtube.

[efraz]

Well my friend this is a great video allright but not about Goergian slave warriors... Because it's about the time of Baybars. Who was a Kipchak Turk

Also this is not a Georgian movie too. This is made in Kazakhstan if I am not mistaken.

[tamunia25]

Read my comment again. I said there IS a Georgian movie called "Mamluk". I DIDN'T say THIS ONE is a georgian movie. And the Georgian movie that I was talking about is about a georgian, who was sold in Turkey and from there in Egypt, where he became the head of other mamluks. But it's just a movie, so i recommend to see it.

[efraz]

Uh, yes... Sorry.

[efraz]

All Mamluks(slave warriors) in islamic history are mostly Turkish. Ayyoubid mamlukes were all Turkish. After mamlukes have captured the throne they started to muster circassian slaves "beside" Turkic slaves.

And after a time circassian mamlukes have taken the power from turkic memlukes.

But Baybars was a Kipchak Turk.

So popular circassian myth that Baybars was a georgian is not true. But there are many circassian mamluk sultans.

But all mamlukes have spoken Turkish. Even the circassians.

[DonAryStan]

Firstly,he bought himself from his owner.Then he applied to army,then he became head of 10then 100 and so on.Then he had his own army.Then he became Sultan Beibarys!I am proud that I am KIPCHAK!Inside the kipchaks I am SANAI.

[DonAryStan]

Kipchaks and russians where facing mongol army on river called KALKA,allies where defeated.Beibarys took part in this fight.River Kalka is near BlackSea.Boats of merchants who were waiting for new slaves from this battle bought Beibarys from mongols.Beibarys was 18 years old.Merchants sold him in Egypt.THen Beibarys started his hard way to the top of authority.

[mbnbvg]

What are you even talking about, guys!! Beibarys was Kipchak of Kazakh!! I am Kipchak and the real Kazakhs are Kipchaks, which means Beibaris was Kazakh! If you wanna know about Beibaris, you've better come to Kazakhstan, we have National Museum of Kazakhstan, there you can see all of our grand grand grand fathers!!!

[TurkTurkTurkOiOiOi]

Beybars & Kutuz saved Islam and maybe Christendom

[ironturk]

halkim icin canım feda.......yasasin Turk milleti........

[codyclemmons92]

egypt was and is not and never will be black pre islam they were dark skin caucasoids like phoenician but darker nubians were black which the egyptians defeated many times

[sergegrone]

that's not 100% accurate as egyptians were hamitic, not semitic like phoenicians.

[amadeus987]

is the asian looking dude a mongol. The white dude is Baibars right

[debashir]

Asian looking dude is not a mongol, he is a kipchak. Baibars was from the place what is called Deshti-Kypchak, he was kipchak. Remember the Bahri Dynasty of Mameluks were asian looking kypchak-turks mostly, Burdji Dynasty were from Caucasusians. Baibars was a Bahri Mameluk, he was kypchak and asian looking by arabian ancient writings. And this is bahris who've defeated the mongols at Ayn-Jaloot.

[nukedotmn]

Kipchaks were f..ng slaves to Mongols, however, Kichacks themselvesa were mix of Mongol and Turkig people! Basically kipchacks were run away tribes of Mongols and they tried to oppose to Mongols and therefore their brothers sold them as slaves. kazakhs were low class tribes within Mongolian confederation! Not really called kiptchacks!

[ridvanco]

hahah idiot kyp4aks not mixing peoples! they were oguz for B.C. 300 ! after that some oguz tribes going to south (middle asia ) and (huns) kicked otcharians ! kypcaks were north oguz(ogurs)!

[debashir]

ridvanco you always screw up things in a wrong direction, kypchak turks stand apart from oghuz turks, kypchaks never were oghuz remember that, today there is no clear kypchak people as they were existent in 12th AD, now most kypchak dialect speaking people are of mixed origin - (kypchak + oghuz + others) predominantly with kypchak heritage, kazaks for example have some oghuz blood too despite they are distingueshed as pure kypchak turks.

[debashir]

There is no proof that Baibars was blond as europeans with blue eyes as some fools try to commit, he was Kypchak and kypchaks always looked the same. Kypchaks are turks and they are mostly mongholoid looking. Know that "mongols" of the 13th century were mostly turks. Even Prophet Muhammad(peace upon Him) told hadis about them, it is obvious that majority of those mongols were turks, for example "Nayman" Ketbuga whom "Kypchak" Baybars would defeat on battle of Ain Jalut.

[bank4fun]

DEBASHIR BLACK SLAVES WERE TREATED WORSE THAN MAMLUKS. THEY WERE A MERE PROPERTY THAN WARRIORS. EXPLAIN THIS: Mohammed is quoted as saying that Blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves". (Sahih Moslem vol. 9 pages 46 and 47).

Hadith; vol.9:162,163: Muhammad warned that dreams of black women meant disease was forthcoming.

[amadeus987]

I am a great admirer of Baybars, but something that has always bothered me is the stories of how he used to butcher civilians of crusader cities he took. From your historical knowledge, do you think that was trueor simply lies put by envious europeans.

[Supduplemup]

Its mostly correct. Most of the times, the crusader civilians were killed. There were times when he spared them though.

The sultans after Baybars also destroyed coastal crusader cities, rock by rock. But you have to understand why. Strategy, politics, and most importantly FEAR played a great role. Baybars saw the dangerous Mongols from the east, and he understood how the coastal cities were a foothold to the crusaders, and whenever they are gona launch a crusade,they vitally needed the coast

[amadeus987]

I understand the strategic importance of holding the coast my friend. But the problem is, as Muslims, we are instructed by Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) himself, that when we take a city, we should not kill any civilians, and to only kill those who fought us. Saladin abided by that when he took Jerusalem, and as much as I like and respect Baybars, it bothers me to see a Muslim leader act the way the crusaders did. I guess you can call me idealistic.

[Supduplemup]

I understand you totally man. Only if we can go back in time and ask why!

[bionICaazIZ]

Can u upload full video?

[Horozkenli20]

baybars and memluk turks

[youngsniper07]

YEA RIGHT EGYPT WAS BLACK PEOPLE

[rOaCh2000]

not during these times they weren't

[sergegrone]

They were never black. Dark skinned for sure, during pharao times, but not black.

I'm doubting, however, that Baybars or the Mamluks were, ethnically speaking, like the characters portrayed on the film. Weren't they of turkic origins?

Sorry for my english.

[Serbiannation]

Great video.Could i know the real title of this movie, would like to get it.

[debashir]

Here it is: СУЛТАН БЕЙБАРС (1989 г. Казахфильм)

If you want to download it, simply go to the responded video(you can see it above), its description contains the links 4 download.

[Serbiannation]

Thank you very much, is it Kazahstanian movie?

[debashir]

Yes, it is.