@tribeisone mig 29 is not even remotely a match with raptor,russians in fact have two more advanced fighters that are a bit closer to this at the moment , su-35 and mig-35 but still raptor is one level above them and is the only 5th generation fighter in production in the world! but the true match to f-22 however could be sukhoi PAK FA which is still in development,we'll wait and see.
f-35 = more advanced. Look dude the f-35 is highly classified, the maximum speed is 1.6 known to the public but the actual speed is classified by the enginers. O.o Why would they accept the f-35 if its not more advanced than the f22? Besides canadian technology = best :D
Looking at all the released statistics for the planes, they are about the same. The F-35 is smaller and faster (presumably since they don't have the top speed released) The F-22 has a larger weapons bay and can hold a greater variety of weapons. The big thing between the two is the fact that the F-22 has thrust vectoring turbofans where as the F-35 does not. Leading me to believe that in a dog fight they would have about the same maneuverability even though the F-35 is smaller.
Looking at all the released statistics for the planes, they are about the same. The F-35 is smaller and faster (presumably since they don't have the top speed released) The F-22 has a larger weapons bay and can hold a greater variety of weapons. The big thing between the two is the fact that the F-22 has thrust vectoring turbofans where as the F-35 does not. Leading me to believe that in a dog fight they would have about the same maneuverability even though the F-35 is smaller.
a scientist never takes anything for granted yet you consumers get so jaded over stuff you dont even understand. just sit back and stfu, this is part of the reason aliens dont annihilate us
United States thrust vectoring technology is a joke! F-22 has 2 dimensional vectoring. RUSSIA has 3 dimensional vectoring. Russian fighters are now superior. Wait till Russia couples this with stealth!
By the time the PAK-FA come out, they may already replace the F22 with something like a remote-piloting aircraft. Which mean that the maneuverability of the PAK-FA will not be able to keep up, since the limitation of the human pilot had been removed from the craft itself. Remember there are many capabilities of the F22 had to be limited because of the human pilot limitation. Gen 6 Fighter will more likely be Remote-Piloting Drones.
@sleeplespsycho -"they may already replace the F22 with something like a remote-piloting aircraft"
Remote control means 2-way link. That means bye-bye stealth.
-"Remember there are many capabilities of the F22 had to be limited because of the human pilot limitation"
That's BS. The F-22 is a +9.5/-3.5G rated airframe. That's lower than the 10+ G's a well-trained pilot can sustain in the short term. And FYI, the Navy limits G's on its fighters to a mere 7.5 G's to lenghten airframe life.
@em745aa Is it possible to make a pilotless craft that can fly into the enemies air space, find the designated targets then human can decide to take control of the craft or not?
You are saying that the F22 can't be made better than it is in anyway? Or is it because of the design had to be compromise to the compensate for a pilot as it is?
@sleeplespsycho Sending UAV's in an enemy's airspace before air superiority has been established is sheer lunacy.
-"You are saying that the F22 can't be made better than it is in anyway?"
I'm saying that fighter airframes are just as susceptible to over-G "damage" as pilots are. Making fighters pilotless wouldn't change that. Nothing about the F-22's G-loading limits has been compromised. The "soft" G limits imposed by the FLCS are to protect the airframe as well as the pilot.
F-22 has all the maneuverability it needs. Stealth is it's 2nd biggest asset.
It's biggest asset is that it's the only fighter aircraft in the world today with total battlefield integrated avionics... meaning, in conjunction with it's own radar, it can coordinate with ground-based and satellite radar to exert total battle field control through all modes of attack. It will be the platform by which Gen VI aircraft (multi-role drones) will be guided.
So many times when the only distinguishing feature of the aircraft were it's vertical stabilizers. Once again proving that the Raptor is truly deserving of the title "air dominance fighter".
F-22 is massive overkill lol. There's nothing in the world that requires the use of an F-22 to combat, that's why they cut the funding for it. Most of the 22s are just sitting around collecting dust. But that's not a bad thing, mind you.
it's better to have something better than not good enough. i mean look, the russians just had the first test flight of the t-50, claiming it's better than the f-22.
They said the same thing about the SU-30MK and that thing is a total piece of shit. The Russians always claim they have something better than us, but they don't know half the stuff this jet can do. They're just a bunch of windbags.
Russian technology: Works 50% of the time everytime!
I agree, on both counts. The F-22 is overkill, but it's not a bad thing that they are sitting in hangers. I would hate to see the day that they would need to be used in actual combat.
I didn't mean to imply that it's a bad thing. The F-22 is an awesome jet, don't get me wrong. I don't know of any other jet that can go up less than 1,000 feet off the ground and fall backwards and recover without so much as a minor problem. That's just one of the things we're allowed to see...
Yeah, but Russians didn't even knew what TVC was the Americans implemented this technology on their fighter jets. The first fighter jet that had 3D TVC incorporated on it, was an F-18 in 1987. It is called the F-18 HARV. F-16 MATV & F-15 ACTIVE followed. The Russians only incorporated 2D TVC on their jets in '96 after they were traumatized by what they saw the X-31 can do. But the thing is 3D TVC doesn't offer many advantages & that's why the Americans didn't incorporate this feature on the F-22
Because it can't be used at speeds higher than 500km/h. If u execute those maneuvers at a 1000kmH speed 4 example, neither the pilot or the aircraft could stand the stress put on the airframe by g loading. The pilot certainly wouldn't. & most fights today take place at speeds well above 500km/h.
@StiviGun1 It would seem that giving these planes the ability to be so damn maneuverable would have been incredible if we were still dog fighting like we did in Vietnam and prior to. Now, the technology is there to shoot the enemy plane down from many miles out without even seeing them first so I can see why the thrust vectoring is a little useless.
@anooseholay I don't know what 2 say now, that the PAK-FA has come out. That fighter is also stealth, so it will be very hard 2 detect. I think the chances 2 see dog-fights between the PAK-FA & F-22 will be pretty high. The Russians want 2 incorporate 3D TVC on PAK-FA. But, like I said, this capability is only useful at speeds below 500km/h. So we'll have 2 see what the Russians will accomplish by incorporating 3DTVC on PAK FA, because it's hard 2 believe that any1 would engage in below 500kmh
@anooseholay dog-fights with them. & we'll also have 2 see at what degrees will the PAK FA's nozzles will be able 2 move. The F-22's nozzles move at 20 degrees in pitch. The Su-35/37's nozzles move at 15 degrees, but in all directions. So if the PAK FA will also incorporate the same TVC system, it'll have a disadvantage in a dog-fight that takes place at speeds above 500km/h with the F-22. The fact that the F-22's nozzles can move at higher degrees than the 1s used on the Su-35/37, gives it a
@anooseholay a bigger advantage. The F-22's TVC system gives a superior turning capability (the fact that its nozzles can move at higher angles enables the aircraft 2 make tighter turns) & also, a more sudden climbing. But this is only valid if the PAK-FA will incorporate the same TVC system as the Su-37. Maybe the Russians will also put on it nozzles that can move at higher angles. In this case, the F-22 won't have the advantage I talked about. We'll just have 2 see what the Russians will do.
aaaaaaaaaahhhhh let chime in here.damn i love the mig 29 for it's time,but it did not have thrust vectoring.i worked in the fighter community 10 yrs, when a fighter pilot comes back and looks you in the eyes an says i wish i could tell you what this thing is capable of you know NUFF SAID
I love all these kids that don't know shit about what they are talking about and think that what they see at an airSHOW is what would happen in a real combat situation. The russians have amazing planes but if their best pilots can't grasp the concept of the hard deck and to not fly into it, the best plane in the world won't help them.
Just go back to your buy one get one free Russian fighters. The cockpit consists of the date/time and calculator. The computer runs on DOS. Oh wow it can manuver. Have fun manuvering because it will be the last thing you do when that AMRAAM comes outa nowhere and rips you apart. Thats all Russian fighters are good for. Putting pretty colors of smoke canisters on the wings and flying around like a doche.
Pilots play a major role even so more then the fighter itself. We all know the history with the Mig's and Sukhois sold to arab nations. Pilots with poor training and education flying there Russian fighters got raped by the Israili Mirage 3's and 5's.
when the plane is performing thrust vectoring maneuver in front all the pilot that's chasing has to do is unload a couple of rounds from his cannon............. there's your dogfight................plus Russian pilots suck, they kill more people at airshows than in actual air-to-air combat.
cost avionics and all this other make believe dog fighting shit you chodes talk about means nothing when a real dog fight happens you only have seconds to think and react thrust vectoring means nothing when a classic dog fight breaks out you could have 100's of rounds flying all over the place thrust vectoring makes it easier to shoot down a fighter when the other pilot shoots a couple hundred rounds from his Vulcan cannon right at the easy slow moving moving plane in front
In near fight Su-35BM (it is new and more perfect than Su-37) or Su-37, undoubtedly, will destroy any of available opponents, including F-22.
Cost F-22 approximately from 150 to 250 million dollars. On this money it is possible to buy from 5 to 8 planes Sukhoi (price Su-35,37 from 30 to 50 million dollars).
Are you really believe, what on a long distance one F-22 can win fight against 5 or 8 planes of Sukhoi?
First of all even at WVR the F22 is no slouch. You need to remember that the vids you see of the Su's are all demo planes carrying optimal fule, very little avionics, and no external stores. That's not going to happen in a real dogfight.
2nd, the F22 is not easy to lock on evern at WVR. "I can't see the [expletive deleted] thing," said RAAF Squadron Leader Stephen Chappell, exchange F-15 pilot in the 65th Aggressor Squadron. "It won't let me put a weapons system on it, even
Yes, yes. Su-37 available only one (as it did not plan in a series). Only at them Su-27 nearby 300. And during planned modernisation on Su-27 the engine with thrust vectoring and a new radar is easily established. I am silent about quantity Su-30, 33, 35, 35BM and Mig-29, 29OVT, 35 which or already have thrust vectoring or on them installation is possible.
Su-37 is one of the most agile fighters nowadays, that's a fact. If you see a Su-37 doing a Cobra, you'll know what I'm talking about. But the F-22 has a lower radar signature, which means that it's harder to lock him on radar. A dogfight between them would be like: F-22 throwing missiles, and the Su-37 evading them. The Su is dead if it commites the minimum fail. F-22's payload is bigger too. Both planes are badass fighters though, I love them both.
THERE ARE ONLY 2 Su-37's! Production is not garanteed. Both are modified from the Su-35. WTF is wrong with you? Where are you gettin your facts from? The Su-37 hasnt even been in an exercise you goose. "If you ever seen an Su-37..." Ye that one you saw and another one exists thats it.
The Cobra isn't all that impressive. From Wikipedia, here's a list of known aircraft capable of doing it. * Chengdu J-10 * Shenyang J-11B * Sukhoi Su-27 and variants (Su-30 to Su-37) * Mikoyan MiG-29 * Mikoyan MiG-35 * F-22 Raptor * Dassault Rafale * Saab Draken (Introduced in 1960)
For mobility the F-22, Su-37, Mig-29M OVT are a close match. But on the tech. side the F-22 wins hands down. I am an Red Blooded American but I can still admire what the Russian's have done with their 4th gen fighters by taking existing airframe designs and updating them with new engine tech.
This looks very cool at airshows, but the days of close in "dog fighting" are long over. I`m sure it is an arguable point, but today, I think the aircraft with the better weapons system and radar would prevail in what is now a BVR fight.
Ye dont bother with this guy he just keeps repeating himself. The guys a fuckn goose. Forget there were just projects there fuckn 4.5 gen fighters. The mofo dont understand that the Raptor is a 5th gen fighter. He proparly saw some video somewhere of a Sukhoi flying proparly wasnt even an SU-37 and assumed that Russia must have 10000 of these and can make 1 million more on short notice.
Sukhoi bro, its not 2 min noodles. Theres only one Su-47 in the world. Theres a good chance it wont come out. They will be going with the PAK-FA stealth fighter design. They cant fund both projects as well as the Su-37. The US can barely afford the F-22A. Its only gona make 183 of them. That number might go down even more.
Firstly that still doesnt make up for the enormous costs involved. Secondly Chinese dont have Su-37's. J-10's are its main fighters from what i know. Im not gona waste time checking out chinese hardware on your tube. I can go to the $2 shop around the corner.
Nothing can match the Situational Awarness of the RAPTOR! It can see your lil dick from 60km's. So shut the hell up! Im gettin sick of your "SUKHOY" comments.
The Su-27 is dead meat up against this. The Typhoon is a nice plane, but equally dead meat up against this. Boeing has the best air-to-air weapons platform ever created by the hand of Man. Ever.
I'm going to be honest with you, I don't like planes very much. But this one... it's the most gorgeous piece of metal I've ever seen. It spins on it's nose in midair and the stuff that it does astound me!!!!
@shafta99 dude dream on... the best pilots are Israelis and Pakistanis!! All US has got is technology 15 years ahead of the rest of the world! :)
pilotyahmed1 4 months ago
@pilotyahmed1 Pakistanis? i dont know about that lol, they have a bad record. Israel maybe but i dont think so.
iHacksorzz 2 months ago
@pilotyahmed1 It shows how much technology can help then.
UltimateHour 4 weeks ago
peeps may hate the us but we got the best fighters in the world!! and the best pilots!!
shafta99 5 months ago
all 8 dislike are the taliban
cmchenry45 6 months ago
This is the only fighter that could stand a chance in a dongfight with the Mig-29
tribeisone 10 months ago
@tribeisone mig 29 is not even remotely a match with raptor,russians in fact have two more advanced fighters that are a bit closer to this at the moment , su-35 and mig-35 but still raptor is one level above them and is the only 5th generation fighter in production in the world! but the true match to f-22 however could be sukhoi PAK FA which is still in development,we'll wait and see.
poralentierno 10 months ago
@tribeisone Tell that to the Mig-29 pilots who were shot down by F-15 and F-16.
OlderG0ds 9 months ago
f-35 = more advanced. Look dude the f-35 is highly classified, the maximum speed is 1.6 known to the public but the actual speed is classified by the enginers. O.o Why would they accept the f-35 if its not more advanced than the f22? Besides canadian technology = best :D
patrick60495 11 months ago
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Looking at all the released statistics for the planes, they are about the same. The F-35 is smaller and faster (presumably since they don't have the top speed released) The F-22 has a larger weapons bay and can hold a greater variety of weapons. The big thing between the two is the fact that the F-22 has thrust vectoring turbofans where as the F-35 does not. Leading me to believe that in a dog fight they would have about the same maneuverability even though the F-35 is smaller.
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@patrick60495
Looking at all the released statistics for the planes, they are about the same. The F-35 is smaller and faster (presumably since they don't have the top speed released) The F-22 has a larger weapons bay and can hold a greater variety of weapons. The big thing between the two is the fact that the F-22 has thrust vectoring turbofans where as the F-35 does not. Leading me to believe that in a dog fight they would have about the same maneuverability even though the F-35 is smaller.
solus48 10 months ago
1:25 blew my mind....it looks like it just stopped moving and did a full circle o.o
TheWindWaker01 11 months ago
@TheWindWaker01 if that blew your mind check this one watch?v=By43vSGo-BU&feature=related
dimos47ki7 10 months ago
was just thinking missiles being fired from 5 miles away. Would they ever get that close in today's modern warfare?
r3kr 11 months ago
In other words - dog fight
r3kr 1 year ago
na maybe like training exercise or something
dt24 1 year ago
a scientist never takes anything for granted yet you consumers get so jaded over stuff you dont even understand. just sit back and stfu, this is part of the reason aliens dont annihilate us
part2themovie 1 year ago
6 ppl don't like this??? WTF????
Mambero75 1 year ago
i would love to see a thrust vectoring dog fight between usa and russia
dt24 1 year ago
that would be a war then... hmmm...
bxb505 1 year ago
This is amazing...
But I have to ask, when in war would this be used ?
Are they going to mesmerize the enemy with amazing aerobatics ?
r3kr 1 year ago
@r3kr It's called evasive maneuvering.
k28xl 1 year ago
@r3kr Dog fighting I could see how this could help a great deal.
PivotB3stZ 11 months ago
3 russian and 3 chinese thumb down this vid !!
Boodhunnilesh 1 year ago
How long can an F22 do a straight vertical climb before the velocity just starts to drop?
maqsad1 1 year ago
This is Great.
FlyKingRy 1 year ago
lol its doing normal maneauvares and thats suppose to be an airshow:?
mjufpn 1 year ago
WTF IS THIS BULL SHIT ??
hottfuzz2 1 year ago
nice
Walletofmoths 1 year ago
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United States thrust vectoring technology is a joke! F-22 has 2 dimensional vectoring. RUSSIA has 3 dimensional vectoring. Russian fighters are now superior. Wait till Russia couples this with stealth!
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Puff29646 1 year ago
By the time the PAK-FA come out, they may already replace the F22 with something like a remote-piloting aircraft. Which mean that the maneuverability of the PAK-FA will not be able to keep up, since the limitation of the human pilot had been removed from the craft itself. Remember there are many capabilities of the F22 had to be limited because of the human pilot limitation. Gen 6 Fighter will more likely be Remote-Piloting Drones.
sleeplespsycho 1 year ago
@sleeplespsycho -"they may already replace the F22 with something like a remote-piloting aircraft"
Remote control means 2-way link. That means bye-bye stealth.
-"Remember there are many capabilities of the F22 had to be limited because of the human pilot limitation"
That's BS. The F-22 is a +9.5/-3.5G rated airframe. That's lower than the 10+ G's a well-trained pilot can sustain in the short term. And FYI, the Navy limits G's on its fighters to a mere 7.5 G's to lenghten airframe life.
em745aa 1 year ago
@em745aa Is it possible to make a pilotless craft that can fly into the enemies air space, find the designated targets then human can decide to take control of the craft or not?
You are saying that the F22 can't be made better than it is in anyway? Or is it because of the design had to be compromise to the compensate for a pilot as it is?
sleeplespsycho 1 year ago
@sleeplespsycho Sending UAV's in an enemy's airspace before air superiority has been established is sheer lunacy.
-"You are saying that the F22 can't be made better than it is in anyway?"
I'm saying that fighter airframes are just as susceptible to over-G "damage" as pilots are. Making fighters pilotless wouldn't change that. Nothing about the F-22's G-loading limits has been compromised. The "soft" G limits imposed by the FLCS are to protect the airframe as well as the pilot.
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f22 =(
Only 2d thrust vectoring. Its way too inferior to 3d thrust vectoring that Russian planes have. Thats why f22 fails versus PAK-FA.
Nice plane tho, cost more then 3 PAK-FA. Its a nice toy anyway. :)
Bibazavr 1 year ago
F-22 has all the maneuverability it needs. Stealth is it's 2nd biggest asset.
It's biggest asset is that it's the only fighter aircraft in the world today with total battlefield integrated avionics... meaning, in conjunction with it's own radar, it can coordinate with ground-based and satellite radar to exert total battle field control through all modes of attack. It will be the platform by which Gen VI aircraft (multi-role drones) will be guided.
F-22 is the epitome of brains over brawn.
ibetithasnot 1 year ago
at this moment the f-22 is the most advanced fighter jet in the world. the F-15 i is outdated and needs to be replaced. the f-22 fills that spot.
ExplosiveProduct 1 year ago
So many times when the only distinguishing feature of the aircraft were it's vertical stabilizers. Once again proving that the Raptor is truly deserving of the title "air dominance fighter".
rossart12 2 years ago
i've seen a f-22 take on 5 f-15's and smoked them all
SmauriceL 2 years ago
F-22 is massive overkill lol. There's nothing in the world that requires the use of an F-22 to combat, that's why they cut the funding for it. Most of the 22s are just sitting around collecting dust. But that's not a bad thing, mind you.
PetrifEye 2 years ago
it's better to have something better than not good enough. i mean look, the russians just had the first test flight of the t-50, claiming it's better than the f-22.
RCdayflyer 2 years ago
They said the same thing about the SU-30MK and that thing is a total piece of shit. The Russians always claim they have something better than us, but they don't know half the stuff this jet can do. They're just a bunch of windbags.
Russian technology: Works 50% of the time everytime!
PetrifEye 2 years ago
I agree, on both counts. The F-22 is overkill, but it's not a bad thing that they are sitting in hangers. I would hate to see the day that they would need to be used in actual combat.
NaomiChanX 2 years ago
I didn't mean to imply that it's a bad thing. The F-22 is an awesome jet, don't get me wrong. I don't know of any other jet that can go up less than 1,000 feet off the ground and fall backwards and recover without so much as a minor problem. That's just one of the things we're allowed to see...
PetrifEye 1 year ago
Don't believe everything you hear. I saw F22s duking it out with F-15s two weeks ago over Nevada. It was AMAZING!!!!
furiouswings 1 year ago
Russian thrust vectoring is still top
Warrantofficer13 2 years ago 5
Yeah, but Russians didn't even knew what TVC was the Americans implemented this technology on their fighter jets. The first fighter jet that had 3D TVC incorporated on it, was an F-18 in 1987. It is called the F-18 HARV. F-16 MATV & F-15 ACTIVE followed. The Russians only incorporated 2D TVC on their jets in '96 after they were traumatized by what they saw the X-31 can do. But the thing is 3D TVC doesn't offer many advantages & that's why the Americans didn't incorporate this feature on the F-22
StiviGun1 1 year ago
why dont the 3D TVC offer any advantage??
bunny153649 1 year ago
Because it can't be used at speeds higher than 500km/h. If u execute those maneuvers at a 1000kmH speed 4 example, neither the pilot or the aircraft could stand the stress put on the airframe by g loading. The pilot certainly wouldn't. & most fights today take place at speeds well above 500km/h.
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 It would seem that giving these planes the ability to be so damn maneuverable would have been incredible if we were still dog fighting like we did in Vietnam and prior to. Now, the technology is there to shoot the enemy plane down from many miles out without even seeing them first so I can see why the thrust vectoring is a little useless.
anooseholay 1 year ago
@anooseholay I don't know what 2 say now, that the PAK-FA has come out. That fighter is also stealth, so it will be very hard 2 detect. I think the chances 2 see dog-fights between the PAK-FA & F-22 will be pretty high. The Russians want 2 incorporate 3D TVC on PAK-FA. But, like I said, this capability is only useful at speeds below 500km/h. So we'll have 2 see what the Russians will accomplish by incorporating 3DTVC on PAK FA, because it's hard 2 believe that any1 would engage in below 500kmh
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@anooseholay dog-fights with them. & we'll also have 2 see at what degrees will the PAK FA's nozzles will be able 2 move. The F-22's nozzles move at 20 degrees in pitch. The Su-35/37's nozzles move at 15 degrees, but in all directions. So if the PAK FA will also incorporate the same TVC system, it'll have a disadvantage in a dog-fight that takes place at speeds above 500km/h with the F-22. The fact that the F-22's nozzles can move at higher degrees than the 1s used on the Su-35/37, gives it a
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@anooseholay a bigger advantage. The F-22's TVC system gives a superior turning capability (the fact that its nozzles can move at higher angles enables the aircraft 2 make tighter turns) & also, a more sudden climbing. But this is only valid if the PAK-FA will incorporate the same TVC system as the Su-37. Maybe the Russians will also put on it nozzles that can move at higher angles. In this case, the F-22 won't have the advantage I talked about. We'll just have 2 see what the Russians will do.
StiviGun1 1 year ago
f22 AERO 3 % WORSE THAN MIG 29 OVT, !
F22 ELECTRONICS 30% better than migs!
You can build more than 10 Migs for the cost of one Raptor, would not like to be a pilot in a 10 to 1 scenario no mater how better my plane is!
celpabedn 2 years ago
i agree with 380. the vectoring of this f22 cannot even compare with the mig 29. hate to say it but, man the russian mig is so much better.
dhtango 2 years ago
aaaaaaaaaahhhhh let chime in here.damn i love the mig 29 for it's time,but it did not have thrust vectoring.i worked in the fighter community 10 yrs, when a fighter pilot comes back and looks you in the eyes an says i wish i could tell you what this thing is capable of you know NUFF SAID
357daedalus 2 years ago
compare to russian plane, this F22 manouver is nothing.
Burned tax money :(
r380 2 years ago
true that The F-22 does not have rudder thrust vectoring
Redblood797 2 years ago
Are there any downsides to trust vectoring?
whitesox889 2 years ago
didn't they withdraw it from production?
Manos26a 2 years ago
That plane is so Kick Ass
Capicopi217 2 years ago
at 1:21 thrust gets vectored
paoquij99 2 years ago
I love all these kids that don't know shit about what they are talking about and think that what they see at an airSHOW is what would happen in a real combat situation. The russians have amazing planes but if their best pilots can't grasp the concept of the hard deck and to not fly into it, the best plane in the world won't help them.
capnapalm 2 years ago
I didn't know a brick was one of the most superior aircraft in the world...
Alex64Rider 2 years ago
Just go back to your buy one get one free Russian fighters. The cockpit consists of the date/time and calculator. The computer runs on DOS. Oh wow it can manuver. Have fun manuvering because it will be the last thing you do when that AMRAAM comes outa nowhere and rips you apart. Thats all Russian fighters are good for. Putting pretty colors of smoke canisters on the wings and flying around like a doche.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
You're fucking jelous on russian fighters !!
Your countrye is finished by the economye !
SuperiorHuns 2 years ago
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so what, it flew up, down then straight forward and back... what is so impressive. amerikan plastic. this so called f-22 flys like a brick.
DRandrey 2 years ago
You sir are a moron.
XR6Charged 2 years ago 14
Youre a blatant PHer. Identify yourself!!
hotknife900 2 years ago
My names Ali. I like long walks on the beach and bubble baths.
XR6Charged 2 years ago 3
I'm not familiar with the flight capabilities of a brick.
PsuPepperoni 2 years ago 12
@PsuPepperoni If it weren't for computers that thing couldn't even fly
welovedickblake1 7 months ago
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@welovedickblake1 'If it weren't for computers that thing couldn't even fly'
You mean like every other fighter these days?
cayetanoluis 1 month ago
What do you want it to do? Go thru a blackhole then come back? Fucktard.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
Pilots play a major role even so more then the fighter itself. We all know the history with the Mig's and Sukhois sold to arab nations. Pilots with poor training and education flying there Russian fighters got raped by the Israili Mirage 3's and 5's.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
when the plane is performing thrust vectoring maneuver in front all the pilot that's chasing has to do is unload a couple of rounds from his cannon............. there's your dogfight................plus Russian pilots suck, they kill more people at airshows than in actual air-to-air combat.
MrChraphicFlix 2 years ago 6
cost avionics and all this other make believe dog fighting shit you chodes talk about means nothing when a real dog fight happens you only have seconds to think and react thrust vectoring means nothing when a classic dog fight breaks out you could have 100's of rounds flying all over the place thrust vectoring makes it easier to shoot down a fighter when the other pilot shoots a couple hundred rounds from his Vulcan cannon right at the easy slow moving moving plane in front
MrChraphicFlix 2 years ago
Sacred naivety.
shadowname1 2 years ago
In near fight Su-35BM (it is new and more perfect than Su-37) or Su-37, undoubtedly, will destroy any of available opponents, including F-22.
Cost F-22 approximately from 150 to 250 million dollars. On this money it is possible to buy from 5 to 8 planes Sukhoi (price Su-35,37 from 30 to 50 million dollars).
Are you really believe, what on a long distance one F-22 can win fight against 5 or 8 planes of Sukhoi?
shadowname1 2 years ago
First of all even at WVR the F22 is no slouch. You need to remember that the vids you see of the Su's are all demo planes carrying optimal fule, very little avionics, and no external stores. That's not going to happen in a real dogfight.
2nd, the F22 is not easy to lock on evern at WVR. "I can't see the [expletive deleted] thing," said RAAF Squadron Leader Stephen Chappell, exchange F-15 pilot in the 65th Aggressor Squadron. "It won't let me put a weapons system on it, even
asusucks 2 years ago
cont...when I can see it visually through the canopy. [Flying against the F-22] annoys the hell out of me."
And due to its stealth , the F22 can enter the engagement at its choosing.
asusucks 2 years ago
since it has a kd of 10-1 vs russian planes yes i do
monimstarfox 2 years ago
Yes, yes. Su-37 available only one (as it did not plan in a series). Only at them Su-27 nearby 300. And during planned modernisation on Su-27 the engine with thrust vectoring and a new radar is easily established. I am silent about quantity Su-30, 33, 35, 35BM and Mig-29, 29OVT, 35 which or already have thrust vectoring or on them installation is possible.
shadowname1 2 years ago
fricken amazing how the helll!
mehmeh58 2 years ago
Su-37 is one of the most agile fighters nowadays, that's a fact. If you see a Su-37 doing a Cobra, you'll know what I'm talking about. But the F-22 has a lower radar signature, which means that it's harder to lock him on radar. A dogfight between them would be like: F-22 throwing missiles, and the Su-37 evading them. The Su is dead if it commites the minimum fail. F-22's payload is bigger too. Both planes are badass fighters though, I love them both.
girilo 2 years ago 2
THERE ARE ONLY 2 Su-37's! Production is not garanteed. Both are modified from the Su-35. WTF is wrong with you? Where are you gettin your facts from? The Su-37 hasnt even been in an exercise you goose. "If you ever seen an Su-37..." Ye that one you saw and another one exists thats it.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
The Cobra isn't all that impressive. From Wikipedia, here's a list of known aircraft capable of doing it. * Chengdu J-10 * Shenyang J-11B * Sukhoi Su-27 and variants (Su-30 to Su-37) * Mikoyan MiG-29 * Mikoyan MiG-35 * F-22 Raptor * Dassault Rafale * Saab Draken (Introduced in 1960)
tnc420sucks 2 years ago
so in the match which one will win?
Surapat1994 2 years ago
holy sh@t! that's straight up death right there, son! :-O
simplyMASV 2 years ago
For mobility the F-22, Su-37, Mig-29M OVT are a close match. But on the tech. side the F-22 wins hands down. I am an Red Blooded American but I can still admire what the Russian's have done with their 4th gen fighters by taking existing airframe designs and updating them with new engine tech.
cycler2 2 years ago
Dream on sunshine..
Morgriz 2 years ago
Mad cobra moves baby.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
But they still have the 20mm M61A2 Vulcan cannon just in case.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
This looks very cool at airshows, but the days of close in "dog fighting" are long over. I`m sure it is an arguable point, but today, I think the aircraft with the better weapons system and radar would prevail in what is now a BVR fight.
RJAY2000 2 years ago 5
Fighters with thrust vectoring can go BACKWARDS.
They should have had that in this video.
Coconutattack 3 years ago
bullshit
escaperoute2 3 years ago
They don't go fully backwards, they just kind of fly up, and do some maneouvres. Then they fly backwards for like 2-3 seconds
Coconutattack 3 years ago 3
oh... i'd like to see a video of that then...
escaperoute2 3 years ago
Not tell me mate that they can dogfight in that position
peczek12 3 years ago
Eurofighter will never be "Dead meat" to this, as Britian and the U.S are allies!
Anything else is dead meat tho! :P
Morgriz 3 years ago 6
And this f 22 is a dead meat to any SUKHOY 37, or 47 !
SuperiorHuns 2 years ago
Oh no, not you again. The SU-37 and 47 were only visionary projects. They were never in service! Are you mad? Incredible!!!!!!
cyberarmy007 2 years ago
Dear cyberarmy007:
First of all I have no reason to be mad.
I'm living in Canada for 18 years allready.
You must be dreaming, or you not have not enough informations. Probably you work a lot, and you have not enough time to search.
Russia, and China is LOADED with SUKHOY 37 !
Please searc in the YouTube something like: RUSSIAN POWER, or: CHINA'S MILITARY or: RUSSIA IS BACK,
You WILL SEE MANY SU 37 FLYING in this countryes during military exercise!
Wish you the best.
Bye.
SuperiorHuns 2 years ago
your facts consist of: BULLSHIT
bobjoe117 2 years ago
Ye dont bother with this guy he just keeps repeating himself. The guys a fuckn goose. Forget there were just projects there fuckn 4.5 gen fighters. The mofo dont understand that the Raptor is a 5th gen fighter. He proparly saw some video somewhere of a Sukhoi flying proparly wasnt even an SU-37 and assumed that Russia must have 10000 of these and can make 1 million more on short notice.
XR6Charged 2 years ago 2
Sukhoi bro, its not 2 min noodles. Theres only one Su-47 in the world. Theres a good chance it wont come out. They will be going with the PAK-FA stealth fighter design. They cant fund both projects as well as the Su-37. The US can barely afford the F-22A. Its only gona make 183 of them. That number might go down even more.
XR6Charged 2 years ago 2
They allready made more than enough SU 37s. Even China is LOADED with SU 37s !
SEARCH FOR IT ON THE You Tube!
SuperiorHuns 2 years ago
Firstly that still doesnt make up for the enormous costs involved. Secondly Chinese dont have Su-37's. J-10's are its main fighters from what i know. Im not gona waste time checking out chinese hardware on your tube. I can go to the $2 shop around the corner.
XR6Charged 2 years ago 2
Nothing can match the Situational Awarness of the RAPTOR! It can see your lil dick from 60km's. So shut the hell up! Im gettin sick of your "SUKHOY" comments.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
Make that 200-240 kms. Might as well be technical.
XR6Charged 2 years ago
The Su-27 is dead meat up against this. The Typhoon is a nice plane, but equally dead meat up against this. Boeing has the best air-to-air weapons platform ever created by the hand of Man. Ever.
MartySchrader 3 years ago
Wait, Wait.. you actually think the F-22 was designed by Boeing? LMAO
365fg 2 years ago
who needs trust vectoring in a dogfight with a range over 50 miles ???
its a nice feature jeah , but i would prefer the Eurofighter Typhoon
scarabl 3 years ago
Actually an F-22 would win in a BVR dogfight easily, with reduced RTS and all but still the EF is pretty sweet too.
okano186 3 years ago
Agile but slow, Russian aircraft look more agile!
rangsri69 3 years ago
slow!!? this plan has super-cruise and can go over mach 2, do you call that slow?
dansportdr123 3 years ago 2
i gotta agree, it can break the sound barrier when flying vertical lol thats just crazy power, and think of the kerosene bill...ouch
Bally46 3 years ago
It's only going slow because it's an airshow. I'd imagine it would hurt some people's ears hearing it go supersonic.
rawwar 3 years ago 3
@rawwar actually it's going slow because that's the best way to demonstrate thrust vectoring.
Mambero75 1 year ago
Whoa!Stealth+Thrust Vectoring= Air superiority...it's a wrap!
gtaraya 4 years ago
I'm going to be honest with you, I don't like planes very much. But this one... it's the most gorgeous piece of metal I've ever seen. It spins on it's nose in midair and the stuff that it does astound me!!!!
mewgal 4 years ago
awesome video, that thing is certainly the most magnificient fighterplane ever.
emrecer 4 years ago