@TheKith88 If people were pro abortion they would want ALL pregnant women to get abortions. I however believe that there are certain cases where women should have the right to do so. If I'm so ignorant, then let me ask you this. If a woman were raped and got pregnant, would you be ok with telling her she has to have the baby? And if somehow you convinced her to have the baby and put it up for adoption, would you step up to take care of the child? If you're not, then you're truly the ignorant one
@XOXMSperfect actually if the government gave me the money to help these children instead of wasting it on abortion funding then yes i would take care of these children,and its not the women who are raped that im talking about ,its these grls and women who don't use protection or run around and sleep with everything that moves and just think to themselves,"oh i will just get an abortion'and how do you know they don't feel pain?your not them ,and your opinion on when a baby feels pain or not is
The government DOES give money to foster these children. Apparently you don't care enough to do so or else you would've known that. And fetuses don't feel pain until approximately after 23 weeks. It's all about the biology of human reproduction. 25 years ago they couldn't disect a fetus like they do now at different developmental stages. Maybe you should look up what the definition of MURDER is.
@WildKatWays exactly,25 years ago they didn't have the technology they have today to tell when a baby feels pain ,maybe 5 years from now it will drop to 15 weeks ,you just made my point,Murder-To kill inhumanly or barbarously/the killing of anther human being/To commit a malice premeditated taking of a life.Murder.You have no idea when a a living thing feels pain,Like i said you made my point 25 years ago it was 7 months.
Do I need to put it in caps so you understand? 25 YEARS AGO THEY COULD NOT DISSECT A FETUS SO THEY COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PHYSIOLOGICAL CHANGES. They have done that now and determined when the CNS develops. GO LOOK UP THE COMMON LAW DEFINITION OF MURDER and you'll be surprised at how wrong you are.
@Sueezee1 I don't care what the governmental law is.They just passed the ndaa that says they can arrest anyone they want with charge,trial or lawyer,do you agree with that.Also,who says when or when not something is human?The same people who made laws like the ndaa bill?They also legalized sodomy and beastiality on this bill,i suppose you agree with that to.I'm usually nice about this but i just today watched the procedure of a women having an abortion and you can see on the monitor the BABY,
@Sueezee1 opening there mouth screaming as there little bodies are ripped to shreds.So don't fucking talk to me about what is murder and what is not.When the Lord returns,someone you most likely have no idea is,we will see what you believe and the rest of you cowards who agree with this abomination think then.
@TheKith88 says: So don't fucking talk to me about what is murder
~~~~~~~~~ Dont worry sweetie, I dont wnat you EVER to have enough pride & self esteem to not tell lies. I want you ALWAYS to lie, never learn the truth, and if you do...NEVER be honest about it. Kwowledge is power & you have neither. Good job. (smile)
@Sueezee1 What are you talking about ?lies about what?and i'm not your sweetie,you think your clever,your not and you will find out about that soon enough.Smile all you want,and stop talking about the law,like they mean anything anymore.Try to educate yourself about who started the planned parenthood and who started the pro-choice movement and the legalization of abortion.They were eugenicists.Do you agree with the ndaa bill?Do you even know what it is?You think that should be law seeing as your
@Sueezee1 talking about the constitution and the amendments.Just because a law is passed does not mean its right.Wake up and read something important.You have no right to mention the name Jesus even when using His name in vain.You will know Him alright and when you do ,remember your stance on the murder of defenseless innocent blood being spilled.You think that 2011 was bad for natural disasters and the economy of the U.S.You reap what you sow,remember that for 2012 and on when your family or
@Sueezee1 children are dying from lack of food or natural disasters.You think the government who made these so called laws are going to care what happens to you and your friends and family.You will be treated the same as the innocent aborted babys.Laugh now all you want,you won't be laughing in the end.I really hope and pray that you and people like you repent of this wickedness and find Christ.
~~~~~~~~~~ No, I wont, and i wont have babies to make your ass happy, either. Wow, you wnat to control EVERT aspect of peoples lives, dont you? hahahah
LOLOL..Keep grasping at childish straws my love, the dumber you are, the better for us. Shove your anatomy!!! This is about rights of people,the law, the 5th, 9th, 13th, & 14th Amend.,The Universal Dec. of Human Rights, The Supreme Court, social custom & necessity, Roe v. Wade & NO science. Jesus, you dont have ANYhting to fight back with, do you??LOL
I'm pro-choice you dumbass and the war is not over. There is always a chance for reversal and amendments to the law depending on the president and congress.
You're an idiot and need to go read through my conversation with that guy, you lazy moron.
@WildKatWays says: My point is you attacked a person who is pro-choice because
~~~~~~~~~~~ Because you lie and your deceitful. Go back & check sweetie,,i put YOUR quote at the beginning of each of my responses. Im responding to what YOU said. Stop screaming "im prochoice" just to avoid my replying comemnnts.
@WildKatWays says: They didn't have that great of a grasp on development
~~~~~~~~~~ Bull shit! Fetal development was seen written in Egyptian hieroglyphs!!!! We have always known. Just because we didnt have xrays and scans dosent mean it was easliy studied. Can you imagine the billions of dead pregnant women ( it happend daily then) whose embryo/fetus was examined? I hate uneducated people.
@XOXMSperfect not the issue ,because you have no clue what that baby feels,did you know that 25 years ago they said the baby can't feel pain until after 7 months,7 months!,and now its 23 weeks!,5 years from now we will know the truth,that it will be 4 weeks or even less,science disproves itself all the time.there is no truth to science.So your opinion on weather a baby feels pain or not is not the point,the point is these women or girls who murder there baby because they are not using protection
Start preaching for better sex ed in school and homes instead of taking away a safe medical procedure that is necessary in some cases. BTW your money is going to MORE WELFARE than abortions.
@XOXMSperfect that is what is wrong,so please stop using a minority argument when its the majority that we who are pro-life are talking about .I hope God shows you the truth about this ,God bless!
@XOXMSperfect If I could take care of child, I would definitely take it in. If I couldn't, the child goes to a foster home. Maybe I'de try to visit the child every once in a while if I really couldn't support him/her. The only reason I could possibly see someone thinking about abortion is if they got raped, and that baby might kill them at birth due to a complication. Even then, it is still wrong. It's something hard to grasp because you probably aren't a Catholic. In a way, it's selfish. =/
first of all sir. your an idiot. what is pro choice? pro choice means you still support the mother if she wants to keep the baby and you still support the mother if she wants to kill the baby. so yes you are pro abortion. or at least dont be so confused. make your mind up. lol haahha
@CurlyFries120 If YOU'RE going to call someone an idiot at least be intelligent enough to use proper grammar, it makes the rest of your statement seem much less credible. So first off, when someone has an abortion, they are not killing a baby, many are performed on an embryo, only a small semi-formed cluster of cells that has no senses or feeling. Secondly pro choice means I support her RIGHT to choose, not necessarily the choice itself. Try not sounding like an illiterate fool next time.
@theden pro choice is a stance, noone has to be 100% for or against something, every political issue has pros and cons, for instance noone is 100% for or against the death penalty, they might say so, but depending on the situation the stance changes. Like if it were a relative or close friend on trial. Or if they are against and someone murders a friend or loved one, their stance might change more for it. Saying someone is Pro abortion would be like saying every baby should be aborted.
only 1% of women who get raped get pregnant.when women get rapped and then have an abortion, it is 2 traumas that happen. it is known that when a raped woman has an abortion, she will have more nightmares about her abortion.that child is only a blessing. it is not that child's fault that rape happened. many women have said they regret having an abortion, yet i have not heard any woman say they regret having their child
@cherryicedtea That is usually b/c it is not socially acceptable for someone to say they regret it. In a few ways, I regret having my son, b/c of the limitations and the trauma of pregnancy and childbirth. But I can say that b/c I'm honest, and don't care what someone thinks of me- I don't need public approval to love myself or be happy- and I have enough money and security to say how I truly feel and not get.. fired, attacked, disowned, or anything like that.
@WildKatWays: My mom had an Ectopic pregnancy her tube had burst and she was bleeding to death. They HAD to abort it or she would have died. Mom was crushed and to make matters worse some of her "friends" who were "Christian" called my mom a monster. I almost ripped the bitches hair out after she called my mom that.
@cherryicedtea Completely wrong. The ones who recover mentally are minority. Stop pulling random facts out of your ass and trying to pass them off as factual. I've assisted with abortions. If you saw the look of relief on the woman's face, it's like an utter terror had left her life and she's in peace.
@TheKith88 Relief that her life was just saved from a fatal pregnancy. If it was a "baby", parasitic twins, fetus tumors and the fact that twins can kill and absorb each other in the womb wouldn't exist, shit head.
@RalphMariedeLargo Well if prochoice isnt about abortion then what is it about? cause im pretty sure from a political standpoint abortion is EXACTLY what pro choice is about.
@XOXMSperfect You miss my comic genius. I illustrate the absurdity of denying Prochoice is Not about abortion. The Whore of Babylon is all about prostitution, just like Prochoice is all about Abortion.
The late Great John Paul the Great says in his Encyclical Letter, Evangelium Vitæ, "The moral gravity of procured abortion is apparent in all its truth if we recognize that we are dealing with murder..."
@XOXMSperfect He speaks the Gospel with infallibility. His words are for all eternity from Jesus Christ as the Pope is just Christ's voice upon earth.
that would be valid IF life were formed at conception. This isn't true for everyone, because the value of life is subjective, as is the time life begins. Secondly, who does that umbilical cord belong to? It's the babies lifeline right? Now when a persons in the hospital in a coma, and they're living on a machine, the family can decide whether or not to pull the plug right? If a living breathing post natal being can be "aborted", then why not a cluster of cells?
Well, anyone can say what they believe about when life begins. I can say it begins when the child turns 9 years of age. Does that give the parents the right to kill him before hand?
And that's not a very similar case. You are using extraordinary, artificial means to keep the person who has no chance or potential of living normally again. You cannot, however, kill him. You must provide for him natural means(food, water, etc.). The child in the womb is alive by the natural means of the umbilical
you cant kill the kid at 9 because hes not biologically dependent on the mother, a fetus however is. And its not a similar case, but a similar concept. The means of preservation may be different, but both the fetus and the person in the coma are dependent on an outer object or being to sustain life. Lets say someone attached a cord to me and their life depended on that connection, why should i be forced to keep it on when its my body?
Live can be taken by that whos life is completely dependent on. If i need a machine to live, and im mentally a vegetable, and my family cant afford the hospital bills, they can pull the plug. So why is it so wrong that a cluster of cells that has no mental capacity can be aborted?
What about a new born child? not much brain capacity in them either...
Why is it wrong? for one, their life does not belong to the woman because he/she is in her body. That's like saying the Jews belonged to Hitler because they were in his country.
no, i am a bioform composed of cells, a zygote is merely cells with DNA that have yet to compose themselves.
A newborn child can recognize the mothers voice as soon as its born, and it can support its own biological systems. all it needs is food.
That life doesn't belong to her, but if its living in her body, it lives by her rule. And if she doesn't want the baby in her body, she can take it out if she so pleases. Hitler killed people who were already born, not clusters of cells.
The outline lists proposed steps for Obama's first 100 days in office including the following: Increase funding for Title X (which funds Planned Parenthood) to $700 million from the current $300 million Expand coverage of taxpayer-funded abortions under Medicaid Promote sex education in schools and communities at cost of $50 million
Provide birth control at colleges Expand taxpayer-funded abortions to federal employees, military facilities, the Peace Corps and federal prisoners
I applaud Obama for caring enough about women and children to educate them and fund their health care.
Here you even have a problem with sex education and Birth Control! So, no sex education, no birth control, yep that = lots of babies!
Medical Abortion is a *medical procedure* and none of your business unless it is you getting the procedure. Do you expect to answer to Jehovahs Witnesses when you need a heart transplant or blood transfusion?
pretty much all my vids are rants so no big deal, but if you look at the big picture, its impossible to make abortion illegal, how is the government gonna know who's pregnant and who's not? People could go down to mexico or up to canada to get abortions. And i think its hypocritical for some pro lifers out there to look down on others for having abortions, when they may have had 4 or 5 kids and never thought of adopting a child.
Advanced cognition is no requirement for being human. but you pro-choicers place so much emphasis on the "sacred umbilical cord", the notion that people are literally created at birth. this view is alien to me, & is no less a fanatical religious belief than the pro life position. in other words, you may think the whole fertilized egg = human notion is a superstitious, backward religious idea, but that pales in comparison to the notion that, at the moment of birth..cont..
I dont think life starts at birth, i think it starts when the fetus attains a degree of cognitive ability, before that it's just a mass of cells. Advanced cognitino may be no requirement to be human, but a degree is required to be considered living. Like when people get into car accidents and are deemed to be a "vegetable" and are independent on something else to live, most people pull the plug, because that person is no longer truely living.
around saying "I'm pregnant with a fetus!" or "I'm having a fetus!"
Seriously? What is that?
Whatever happened to the "morning after pill"? Do people just WANT to wait till they can have an abortion? I just don't understand that. It's one thing to want to get abortion because the woman was raped by her father or something, but to get an abortion just cause "you don't want one and decided to have unprotected sex with the knowledge of the possibility of getting pregnant" is just retarded.
Cont..at the very second the fetus peeks it's head out of mom's vagina, a thunder bolt shakes the earth, a supreme court justice bangs his gavel, &the fetus miraculously becomes a human. yet for the life of me I can't tell the difference between the before and after pictures.
If the religious right were *really* against abortion, they would be for COMPREHENSIVE sex & body education and free birth control. But you're not really against abortion. You are against people having sex before marriage. Why should I be forced to live by your religious dogma? Do you wish to live by my religious dogma? His? Bin Laden's? No, I doubt it. But you will try to take away other people's right to make a choice for themselves.
I don't recall any foster child ever saying they wish they had been aborted because they have a miserable life...
And yes both sides are trying to force each other to do what they want. Pro-lifers don't want to be forced to go along with something they don't believe is right. Pro-choice/Pro-abortion don't want people to tell them what to do with their bodies.
I like how when a baby is wanted it's called a baby, but if it's unwanted it's called a fetus. OoOoOo Nobody with a wanted baby goes
Actually many people with wanted "babies" have abortions for medical reasons. It doesn't change their medical situation, and it is up to the woman and her doctor what is best for HER.
pro-choice = pro-abortion. pro-life = anti-abortion.
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Pro choice is just a more easy hearing label then pro abortion,but it is the exact same.Don't be so ignorant.
TheKith88 5 months ago
@TheKith88 If people were pro abortion they would want ALL pregnant women to get abortions. I however believe that there are certain cases where women should have the right to do so. If I'm so ignorant, then let me ask you this. If a woman were raped and got pregnant, would you be ok with telling her she has to have the baby? And if somehow you convinced her to have the baby and put it up for adoption, would you step up to take care of the child? If you're not, then you're truly the ignorant one
XOXMSperfect 5 months ago 4
@XOXMSperfect actually if the government gave me the money to help these children instead of wasting it on abortion funding then yes i would take care of these children,and its not the women who are raped that im talking about ,its these grls and women who don't use protection or run around and sleep with everything that moves and just think to themselves,"oh i will just get an abortion'and how do you know they don't feel pain?your not them ,and your opinion on when a baby feels pain or not is
TheKith88 5 months ago
@TheKith88
The government DOES give money to foster these children. Apparently you don't care enough to do so or else you would've known that. And fetuses don't feel pain until approximately after 23 weeks. It's all about the biology of human reproduction. 25 years ago they couldn't disect a fetus like they do now at different developmental stages. Maybe you should look up what the definition of MURDER is.
WildKatWays 5 months ago
@WildKatWays exactly,25 years ago they didn't have the technology they have today to tell when a baby feels pain ,maybe 5 years from now it will drop to 15 weeks ,you just made my point,Murder-To kill inhumanly or barbarously/the killing of anther human being/To commit a malice premeditated taking of a life.Murder.You have no idea when a a living thing feels pain,Like i said you made my point 25 years ago it was 7 months.
TheKith88 5 months ago
@TheKith88
Do I need to put it in caps so you understand? 25 YEARS AGO THEY COULD NOT DISSECT A FETUS SO THEY COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PHYSIOLOGICAL CHANGES. They have done that now and determined when the CNS develops. GO LOOK UP THE COMMON LAW DEFINITION OF MURDER and you'll be surprised at how wrong you are.
WildKatWays 5 months ago
@WildKatWays says: GO LOOK UP THE COMMON LAW DEFINITION OF MURDER
~~~~~~~~~ Its the illegal killing of a human being. I use Blacks legal dictionary. What do YOU use?
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@TheKith88 says: Murder-To kill inhumanly or barbarously/the killing of anther human being/
~~~~~~~~~~~ Thats incorrect!! Murder is the illegal killing of a human being. A fetus USNT a human being and abortion is legal. NO murder!!
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@Sueezee1 I don't care what the governmental law is.They just passed the ndaa that says they can arrest anyone they want with charge,trial or lawyer,do you agree with that.Also,who says when or when not something is human?The same people who made laws like the ndaa bill?They also legalized sodomy and beastiality on this bill,i suppose you agree with that to.I'm usually nice about this but i just today watched the procedure of a women having an abortion and you can see on the monitor the BABY,
TheKith88 1 month ago
@TheKith88 says: I don't care what the governmental law is
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LMAO..Abortion is legal.....You dont have to care.
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@TheKith88 says: who says when or when not something is human?
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who says when or when something is frog? LOl, try alittle critical thinking, dimwit.
Sueezee1 1 month ago
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@TheKith88 says: today watched the procedure of a women having an abortion and you can see on the monitor the BABY,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahah so what?
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@Sueezee1 opening there mouth screaming as there little bodies are ripped to shreds.So don't fucking talk to me about what is murder and what is not.When the Lord returns,someone you most likely have no idea is,we will see what you believe and the rest of you cowards who agree with this abomination think then.
TheKith88 1 month ago
@TheKith88 says: opening there mouth screaming
~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahaha, yes, those lungs are SOOOO full of air to be able to scream. Saty stupid darling, thats how prochoice prefers you.
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@TheKith88 says: So don't fucking talk to me about what is murder
~~~~~~~~~ Dont worry sweetie, I dont wnat you EVER to have enough pride & self esteem to not tell lies. I want you ALWAYS to lie, never learn the truth, and if you do...NEVER be honest about it. Kwowledge is power & you have neither. Good job. (smile)
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@Sueezee1 What are you talking about ?lies about what?and i'm not your sweetie,you think your clever,your not and you will find out about that soon enough.Smile all you want,and stop talking about the law,like they mean anything anymore.Try to educate yourself about who started the planned parenthood and who started the pro-choice movement and the legalization of abortion.They were eugenicists.Do you agree with the ndaa bill?Do you even know what it is?You think that should be law seeing as your
TheKith88 1 month ago
@Sueezee1 talking about the constitution and the amendments.Just because a law is passed does not mean its right.Wake up and read something important.You have no right to mention the name Jesus even when using His name in vain.You will know Him alright and when you do ,remember your stance on the murder of defenseless innocent blood being spilled.You think that 2011 was bad for natural disasters and the economy of the U.S.You reap what you sow,remember that for 2012 and on when your family or
TheKith88 1 month ago
@Sueezee1 children are dying from lack of food or natural disasters.You think the government who made these so called laws are going to care what happens to you and your friends and family.You will be treated the same as the innocent aborted babys.Laugh now all you want,you won't be laughing in the end.I really hope and pray that you and people like you repent of this wickedness and find Christ.
TheKith88 1 month ago
@WildKatWays says: 25 years ago they couldn't disect a fetus like they do now at different developmental stages.
~~~~~~~~~~~ WHAT??????? They did that in China 500 BC!!! What do you mean that didnt disect embryos, fetuses?
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@Sueezee1
Are you retarded?
Stay out of conversations that you clearly can't follow.
WildKatWays 1 month ago
@WildKatWays says: Stay out of conversations
~~~~~~~~~~ No, I wont, and i wont have babies to make your ass happy, either. Wow, you wnat to control EVERT aspect of peoples lives, dont you? hahahah
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@Sueezee1
If you were a smart girl, you'd go read my conversation with that dude because I was arguing the case for reproductive rights.
Apparently that's not the case and you want to argue just to argue.
You aren't helping the war.
WildKatWays 1 month ago
@WildKatWays says: You aren't helping the war.
~~~~~~~~~~ Abortion is legal. The "war" ended nearly 40 yrs ago.
Sueezee1 1 month ago
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@WildKatWays says: because I was arguing the case for reproductive rights.
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I dont care about your damned stance..i care about people posting dishonest garbage.
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@WildKatWays says: 25 years ago they couldn't disect a fetus like they do now
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hahahaha, I just posted that comment on the CS forum for all the intelligent adults to read. They'll get a good laugh from that. Thanks!!
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@Sueezee1
And understand the anatomy and physiology?
No they couldn't. They didn't have that great of a grasp on development of synapses and chemistry that contributes to growth and development.
WildKatWays 1 month ago
@WildKatWays says:: nderstand the anatomy
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LOLOL..Keep grasping at childish straws my love, the dumber you are, the better for us. Shove your anatomy!!! This is about rights of people,the law, the 5th, 9th, 13th, & 14th Amend.,The Universal Dec. of Human Rights, The Supreme Court, social custom & necessity, Roe v. Wade & NO science. Jesus, you dont have ANYhting to fight back with, do you??LOL
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@Sueezee1
You are retarded.
I'm pro-choice you dumbass and the war is not over. There is always a chance for reversal and amendments to the law depending on the president and congress.
You're an idiot and need to go read through my conversation with that guy, you lazy moron.
WildKatWays 1 month ago
@WildKatWays says: There is always a chance for reversal and amendments to the law
~~~~~~~~~~ Ya, lovers of driving drunk are waiting for a change,. too. So, whats your damned point?
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@Sueezee1
My point is you attacked a person who is pro-choice because you're basically retarded and lazy.
And you're dumb so maybe you're the one who needs an education.
WildKatWays 1 month ago
@WildKatWays says: My point is you attacked a person who is pro-choice because
~~~~~~~~~~~ Because you lie and your deceitful. Go back & check sweetie,,i put YOUR quote at the beginning of each of my responses. Im responding to what YOU said. Stop screaming "im prochoice" just to avoid my replying comemnnts.
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@Sueezee1
Yeah you did and you took them all out of context because you're retarded.
And I haven't avoided you once.
So keep it coming you flaming moron.
WildKatWays 1 month ago
@Sueezee1
"Ya, lovers of driving drunk are waiting for a change,. too"
-And that's a fucking really retarded attempt at discrediting my valid statement.
Learn something about the law you idiot.
WildKatWays 1 month ago
@WildKatWays says: They didn't have that great of a grasp on development
~~~~~~~~~~ Bull shit! Fetal development was seen written in Egyptian hieroglyphs!!!! We have always known. Just because we didnt have xrays and scans dosent mean it was easliy studied. Can you imagine the billions of dead pregnant women ( it happend daily then) whose embryo/fetus was examined? I hate uneducated people.
Sueezee1 1 month ago
@XOXMSperfect not the issue ,because you have no clue what that baby feels,did you know that 25 years ago they said the baby can't feel pain until after 7 months,7 months!,and now its 23 weeks!,5 years from now we will know the truth,that it will be 4 weeks or even less,science disproves itself all the time.there is no truth to science.So your opinion on weather a baby feels pain or not is not the point,the point is these women or girls who murder there baby because they are not using protection
TheKith88 5 months ago
@TheKith88
Start preaching for better sex ed in school and homes instead of taking away a safe medical procedure that is necessary in some cases. BTW your money is going to MORE WELFARE than abortions.
WildKatWays 5 months ago 2
@XOXMSperfect that is what is wrong,so please stop using a minority argument when its the majority that we who are pro-life are talking about .I hope God shows you the truth about this ,God bless!
TheKith88 5 months ago
@XOXMSperfect If I could take care of child, I would definitely take it in. If I couldn't, the child goes to a foster home. Maybe I'de try to visit the child every once in a while if I really couldn't support him/her. The only reason I could possibly see someone thinking about abortion is if they got raped, and that baby might kill them at birth due to a complication. Even then, it is still wrong. It's something hard to grasp because you probably aren't a Catholic. In a way, it's selfish. =/
LxE100 4 months ago
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TheKith88 1 month ago
first of all sir. your an idiot. what is pro choice? pro choice means you still support the mother if she wants to keep the baby and you still support the mother if she wants to kill the baby. so yes you are pro abortion. or at least dont be so confused. make your mind up. lol haahha
CurlyFries120 5 months ago
@CurlyFries120 If YOU'RE going to call someone an idiot at least be intelligent enough to use proper grammar, it makes the rest of your statement seem much less credible. So first off, when someone has an abortion, they are not killing a baby, many are performed on an embryo, only a small semi-formed cluster of cells that has no senses or feeling. Secondly pro choice means I support her RIGHT to choose, not necessarily the choice itself. Try not sounding like an illiterate fool next time.
XOXMSperfect 5 months ago
if you dont take a stance then your a moral relativist...and that worldview doesnt hold
theden 9 months ago
@theden pro choice is a stance, noone has to be 100% for or against something, every political issue has pros and cons, for instance noone is 100% for or against the death penalty, they might say so, but depending on the situation the stance changes. Like if it were a relative or close friend on trial. Or if they are against and someone murders a friend or loved one, their stance might change more for it. Saying someone is Pro abortion would be like saying every baby should be aborted.
XOXMSperfect 9 months ago
only 1% of women who get raped get pregnant.when women get rapped and then have an abortion, it is 2 traumas that happen. it is known that when a raped woman has an abortion, she will have more nightmares about her abortion.that child is only a blessing. it is not that child's fault that rape happened. many women have said they regret having an abortion, yet i have not heard any woman say they regret having their child
cherryicedtea 10 months ago
@cherryicedtea That is usually b/c it is not socially acceptable for someone to say they regret it. In a few ways, I regret having my son, b/c of the limitations and the trauma of pregnancy and childbirth. But I can say that b/c I'm honest, and don't care what someone thinks of me- I don't need public approval to love myself or be happy- and I have enough money and security to say how I truly feel and not get.. fired, attacked, disowned, or anything like that.
ryddelwearsahat 8 months ago
@cherryicedtea
Your statistics are wrong because women are not required to disclose why they are having an abortion.
If you've never met anyone who hasn't regretted having their child, then you're living on an island by yourself.
And she won't have nightmares. Quit with the fear mongering bullshit.
You're a fucking moron.
WildKatWays 5 months ago
@WildKatWays: My mom had an Ectopic pregnancy her tube had burst and she was bleeding to death. They HAD to abort it or she would have died. Mom was crushed and to make matters worse some of her "friends" who were "Christian" called my mom a monster. I almost ripped the bitches hair out after she called my mom that.
Eternalsummersong 5 months ago
@Eternalsummersong
That's rough and I feel bad for your mother.
Not only because she almost died and lost a child I'm assuming she wanted to have, but because of the people who demonized her.
It's sad in so many ways. People are very narrow minded and I hope your mother knows she did nothing wrong.
WildKatWays 5 months ago
@cherryicedtea Completely wrong. The ones who recover mentally are minority. Stop pulling random facts out of your ass and trying to pass them off as factual. I've assisted with abortions. If you saw the look of relief on the woman's face, it's like an utter terror had left her life and she's in peace.
BleedingGrafitti 5 months ago
@BleedingGrafitti thats just wrong,relief that she just killed her baby.wow!
TheKith88 5 months ago
@TheKith88 Relief that her life was just saved from a fatal pregnancy. If it was a "baby", parasitic twins, fetus tumors and the fact that twins can kill and absorb each other in the womb wouldn't exist, shit head.
BleedingGrafitti 4 months ago
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@TheKith88 says: relief that she just killed her baby
~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes, youre not educated enough to grasp that concept?
Sueezee1 1 month ago
Prochoice is Not about Abortion. The Whore of Babylon is Not about Prostitution.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo Well if prochoice isnt about abortion then what is it about? cause im pretty sure from a political standpoint abortion is EXACTLY what pro choice is about.
XOXMSperfect 1 year ago
@XOXMSperfect You miss my comic genius. I illustrate the absurdity of denying Prochoice is Not about abortion. The Whore of Babylon is all about prostitution, just like Prochoice is all about Abortion.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
The late Great John Paul the Great says in his Encyclical Letter, Evangelium Vitæ, "The moral gravity of procured abortion is apparent in all its truth if we recognize that we are dealing with murder..."
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo Too bad he was born before the informational age
XOXMSperfect 1 year ago
@XOXMSperfect He speaks the Gospel with infallibility. His words are for all eternity from Jesus Christ as the Pope is just Christ's voice upon earth.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo
what does it matter if he thinks that? I'm free to have another opinion
Guitarvirtuoso666 6 months ago
i'm pro-abortion if a woman wants to have it she should be able to
YOYOdaMOOSE 1 year ago
How about we use philosophy?
(1) human life is formed at conception: a distinct human DNA is formed at conception (fact)
(2) The pre-born child is not part of the woman since they have distinct DNAs and are only connected by the umbilical cord
(3) Since they are humans, they are both equal and the woman has no right to kill him/her. ("All men are created equal.")
You saying that we should killa pre-born child with health problems is Nazi philosophy... "Live is to b lived by those worthy of it."
choirboy526 2 years ago
that would be valid IF life were formed at conception. This isn't true for everyone, because the value of life is subjective, as is the time life begins. Secondly, who does that umbilical cord belong to? It's the babies lifeline right? Now when a persons in the hospital in a coma, and they're living on a machine, the family can decide whether or not to pull the plug right? If a living breathing post natal being can be "aborted", then why not a cluster of cells?
XOXMSperfect 2 years ago
Well, anyone can say what they believe about when life begins. I can say it begins when the child turns 9 years of age. Does that give the parents the right to kill him before hand?
And that's not a very similar case. You are using extraordinary, artificial means to keep the person who has no chance or potential of living normally again. You cannot, however, kill him. You must provide for him natural means(food, water, etc.). The child in the womb is alive by the natural means of the umbilical
choirboy526 2 years ago
you cant kill the kid at 9 because hes not biologically dependent on the mother, a fetus however is. And its not a similar case, but a similar concept. The means of preservation may be different, but both the fetus and the person in the coma are dependent on an outer object or being to sustain life. Lets say someone attached a cord to me and their life depended on that connection, why should i be forced to keep it on when its my body?
XOXMSperfect 2 years ago
Live can be taken by that whos life is completely dependent on. If i need a machine to live, and im mentally a vegetable, and my family cant afford the hospital bills, they can pull the plug. So why is it so wrong that a cluster of cells that has no mental capacity can be aborted?
XOXMSperfect 2 years ago
Yes, you are cluster of cells as well.
What about a new born child? not much brain capacity in them either...
Why is it wrong? for one, their life does not belong to the woman because he/she is in her body. That's like saying the Jews belonged to Hitler because they were in his country.
choirboy526 2 years ago
no, i am a bioform composed of cells, a zygote is merely cells with DNA that have yet to compose themselves.
A newborn child can recognize the mothers voice as soon as its born, and it can support its own biological systems. all it needs is food.
That life doesn't belong to her, but if its living in her body, it lives by her rule. And if she doesn't want the baby in her body, she can take it out if she so pleases. Hitler killed people who were already born, not clusters of cells.
XOXMSperfect 2 years ago
The outline lists proposed steps for Obama's first 100 days in office including the following: Increase funding for Title X (which funds Planned Parenthood) to $700 million from the current $300 million Expand coverage of taxpayer-funded abortions under Medicaid Promote sex education in schools and communities at cost of $50 million
Provide birth control at colleges Expand taxpayer-funded abortions to federal employees, military facilities, the Peace Corps and federal prisoners
angelshoulders 2 years ago
I applaud Obama for caring enough about women and children to educate them and fund their health care.
Here you even have a problem with sex education and Birth Control! So, no sex education, no birth control, yep that = lots of babies!
Medical Abortion is a *medical procedure* and none of your business unless it is you getting the procedure. Do you expect to answer to Jehovahs Witnesses when you need a heart transplant or blood transfusion?
cherrymiss72 2 years ago
Sorry...I went on a rant.
PurpleMonster31 2 years ago
pretty much all my vids are rants so no big deal, but if you look at the big picture, its impossible to make abortion illegal, how is the government gonna know who's pregnant and who's not? People could go down to mexico or up to canada to get abortions. And i think its hypocritical for some pro lifers out there to look down on others for having abortions, when they may have had 4 or 5 kids and never thought of adopting a child.
XOXMSperfect 2 years ago
Advanced cognition is no requirement for being human. but you pro-choicers place so much emphasis on the "sacred umbilical cord", the notion that people are literally created at birth. this view is alien to me, & is no less a fanatical religious belief than the pro life position. in other words, you may think the whole fertilized egg = human notion is a superstitious, backward religious idea, but that pales in comparison to the notion that, at the moment of birth..cont..
angelshoulders 2 years ago
I dont think life starts at birth, i think it starts when the fetus attains a degree of cognitive ability, before that it's just a mass of cells. Advanced cognitino may be no requirement to be human, but a degree is required to be considered living. Like when people get into car accidents and are deemed to be a "vegetable" and are independent on something else to live, most people pull the plug, because that person is no longer truely living.
XOXMSperfect 2 years ago
Bravo and excellent point!
cherrymiss72 2 years ago
around saying "I'm pregnant with a fetus!" or "I'm having a fetus!"
Seriously? What is that?
Whatever happened to the "morning after pill"? Do people just WANT to wait till they can have an abortion? I just don't understand that. It's one thing to want to get abortion because the woman was raped by her father or something, but to get an abortion just cause "you don't want one and decided to have unprotected sex with the knowledge of the possibility of getting pregnant" is just retarded.
PurpleMonster31 2 years ago
Cont..at the very second the fetus peeks it's head out of mom's vagina, a thunder bolt shakes the earth, a supreme court justice bangs his gavel, &the fetus miraculously becomes a human. yet for the life of me I can't tell the difference between the before and after pictures.
angelshoulders 2 years ago
Advanced cognition? No. Outside my body? Yes.
If the religious right were *really* against abortion, they would be for COMPREHENSIVE sex & body education and free birth control. But you're not really against abortion. You are against people having sex before marriage. Why should I be forced to live by your religious dogma? Do you wish to live by my religious dogma? His? Bin Laden's? No, I doubt it. But you will try to take away other people's right to make a choice for themselves.
cherrymiss72 2 years ago
I don't recall any foster child ever saying they wish they had been aborted because they have a miserable life...
And yes both sides are trying to force each other to do what they want. Pro-lifers don't want to be forced to go along with something they don't believe is right. Pro-choice/Pro-abortion don't want people to tell them what to do with their bodies.
I like how when a baby is wanted it's called a baby, but if it's unwanted it's called a fetus. OoOoOo Nobody with a wanted baby goes
PurpleMonster31 2 years ago
Actually many people with wanted "babies" have abortions for medical reasons. It doesn't change their medical situation, and it is up to the woman and her doctor what is best for HER.
cherrymiss72 2 years ago