No substantive argument on either side. Damon seems to be saying that because teaching is hard and pays very little, that only great people would choose to teach and therefore teachers need not be subject to performance-based standards for compensation, termination, etc., like most professions. That is absurd. Like every profession teachers run the gammit from hero to scum. Can anyone out there say all their teachers were good? Of course not.
I think all teachers should quit and let the parentso take care of and teach their own kids, people constantly bitching but those same fucking people send their kids to public schools, if your don't like it then home school your kid our send them to private school, wait you want the government to take care of that too? All of you have such great ideas on how to make the world a better place maybe you should be teachers or better yet get off your ass and take care of your own fucking kids.
When I become dictator I will drink the blood of Matt Damon. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha just kidding Ron Paul 2012! I like Matt Damon but I disagree with big government.
i love how he deflects the issue of 10% bad teachers by calling the cameraman a shitty cameraman. but, you know, you're probably right matt, there have never been, nor will there ever be a bad teacher in america that neglects to fulfill his/her duty as a teacher.
@yuri29442 This is his mentality, talk about shitty hours? Teaching kids for 6 hours a day and working 8 hours of work, and then having a 4 months worth of break? Cmon he's just using his persuasive skills he picked up as acting, not reasoning and critically thinking.
"there's an answer from an expert who said that's not true"... who? your mom? who happens to be a a lifelong teacher. and she's preaching about how easy it is for teachers to lose their job... that's there's no job security with tenure. meanwhile she has been a teacher her entire life. SURE!
This shows the out right stupidity of the Hollywood elite. Matt lives in LA ,yet knows nothing of the school district. And for those foolish enough to believe what he says. Look up "Stupid in America" on Youtube. Throwing money at problem accomplishes nothing except a heavy tax burden and poor economy.
@SantaBJ I live in LA.. Matt lives in L.A. Yet all you have to do is look at the headlines to see what's going in our schools. Yet Matt wants to defend the government school system that protects and rewards bad teachers. No less than 3 teachers connected child molestation in less than 2 weeks!!! Yet thanks to the teachers union we have to pay them!! Again look up "Stupid in America" on YouTube. Then come back and comment.
Public school teachers don't have job security? Check out the documentary Waiting For Superman, it shows how it's nearly impossible for public school teachers to be fired even when they do stuff like assault students. And it costs way more money for the tax payers to fire a teacher than to keep them employed due to the ridiculously bureaucratic process imposed by the union.
In my state there is a program where they teach underprivileged kids for several years and get their student loans paid.
There are so many more incentives to teach and at horrible places that really don't require much effort or desire. Personal Experience; there are many teachers who break school rules and laws but instead of being fired or punish they are protected by their schools. No there are many arguments that could be made against this guy, whats his face & his school of misfit teachers.
@carobbins25 So you would leave it up to some 5 year old kid to say if he wants to go to school or not? Hmm, let me think, what would a 5 year old say? School? Or watch TV? Smarten up, will ya?
@ashkanlion23 Ummm...let's be more mature than to ask me that obvious stupid question. K - 6 would be mandatory. A child would have the necessary skills by age 12 to say, "Would you like fries with that?" After the sixth grade, school would not be mandatory and a child can be kicked out of school for performance, just like so many teacher haters want them to be kicked out of schools because of theirs.
Matt your argument is circular. If teachers want to teach and won't get lazy, then why do they need tenure? Think about it. The fundamental principal behind any union is to get more than what the market will bear - be it tenure, greater benefits, pension etc. Teachers in the USA are horrible, The USA spends more per capita on education than every country in the world except one (Luxembourg). Yet the results are horrible. So the problem obviously isn't "not enough funding", it's bad teachers
@MrVanjones What money and benefits? Did you pay attention to what happened in Wisconsin? All I'm saying that it is a two way street. If you have a bunch of students who don't want to be there, why do we continue to blame teachers for not motivating them? Schools are not 8 hour day cares. They are institutions for education.
I don't know what the conversation he is having is mostly pertaining to the incentive of being a teacher is that teacher salaries are still better than many other jobs and the perks of having summers and weekends off along with being off at relatively the same time as your child is a mind blowing benefit.
I hate to tell the reporter this, but being a student in the system does not make you an expert on the educational system. Hey my brother was arrested once, does that qualify him to be a policeman?
@hopereturns you *hate* to tell the reporter?! ... come on! you'd love to tell the reporter that! I know it's an expression people use, ''I hate to tell you this..'' (when really they delight in it!).. but why not just say it directly: I wish I had been there to make the point that...
In a 2007 report, the nonprofit Education Sector found that nearly 19% of all public education spending in America goes towards things like seniority-based pay increases and outsized benefits -- things that don’t go unappreciated, but don’t do much to improve teaching quality. If these provisions were done away with, the report found, $77 billion in education money would be freed up for initiatives that could actually improve learning, like paying high-performing teachers more money.
@you831able We don't want to raise the pay of workers, teachers, etc, we'd rather reduce pay and have a race to the bottom so everyone can work under the poverty level. Let's all work service jobs at Walmart..Improve learning? Teaching for the stupid no child left behind test is the problem. Get kids to critically thinking. We need techniques of teaching like those of Albert Cullum.
New York City-The ironclad union contract requires that any teacher with tenure be paid their full salary and benefits if they are sent to the “Absent Teacher Reserve pool,” according to The Wall Street Journal. The average pay of a teacher in that pool? $82,000 a year. Some of the teachers have been in the pool since 2006. According to the Journal, the majority of teachers in the pool had “neither applied for another job in the system nor attended any recruitment fairs in recent months.”
If I hate my job I quit the job! These teachers know they get good deals.... So they protest and manipulate politicians through huge campaign donations, to get more money for doing a shitty job! Matt Damon, like many other actors live in this dream world, where they see themselves as an elite person, sent to judge everyone who disagrees with him. Why do private charter schools have a higher success rate? Because the teachers can get fired for being sub-par. His whole argument is stupid!
@NocheezRecords Hmmmm, Nocheez define the word TENURE for me please? Isn't it strange that charter schools, with less funding have a much higher success rates? You must be a teacher! LOL! Fucking flake! If you're not a teacher, then I assume that you're a dim witted dolt, defending out right theft of tax payer money. Imagine if everybody could pay money to pick their boss, and have the power to tell your boss what your salary is going to be? Public sector unions do this!
@you831able There are a number of ways to look at the word. the fact remains that teachers who have tenure can be fired. So now what dip shit? I know teachers who do a wonderful job and care deeply, whats your point? They should get paid much more than they do. I believe there needs to be restructuring, but tenure is certainly not the main problem. How many teachers get tenure? And how long does it take them to get it, and isn't it their wonderful record that gets them tenure?
"It's impossible to fire someone with tenure." Just one more misconception about teachers. I know of several teachers with tenure who have been fired.
However, the interviewer spoke volumes about public attitude toward teachers. "I went to school, so I'm just as educated as she (a teacher) is (re: difficulty in firing teachers.) Almost everybody went to school and has had experience with teachers (including some bad experiences) so many feel that makes them an expert on education.
Teachers unions are fucking up this county and it's educational system, and retards like matt damon who make millions off of having no education dare to defend this dilapidated and archaic form of "education"? Wow, we are all fucked. Better get your kids in private school, or home school them unless you want them to turn into one of these entitled assholes.
@critter505 Wrong, teachers have no power, the upper administrators do. They set the policies and curriculum. Making teachers waste all their time to teach for the test does not cause critical thinking. Memorization is not intelligence. We need to teach critical thinking. Teachers have an incredibly tough job and are paid way to little. Scumbag shareholders hang out on golf courses and watch their investments increase by the millions giving nothing to society. Get a grip.
@NocheezRecords Hey dumbass, try using a little "critical thinking", as well as a bit more comprehension and read the comment again. I said TEACHERS UNIONS!
@critter505 *its* educational system (it's=it is/it has). Matt Damon went to Harvard! He quit a few credits shy of his degree, but he still studied there! ...
@siobanethier "I don't need spell check...." Hey, just like me! I don't use spell check either. Spell check only works for English - I type American anyway.
Real libertarians are people like Bakunin, Emma Goldman, Rosa Luxembourg, Antonie Pannekoek, Noam Chomsky etc. Libertarian socialists. It doesn't matter what you call it.
@ReanimatedShad0w There may be that small amount of people in any profession that are not passionate about what they do, but that is irrelevant. He's saying teachers will have the incentive to teach and do a good job because it is what they want to do, not because there is little job security. Matt Damon is very educated and is far from naive. Just opinionated.
Libertarians are so painfully dense. It is not impossible to fire a tenured teacher, there is a due process. Also a person becomes tenured because they have shown a long history of being a good teacher. The ones who deserve firing are a very small number of which they receive due process which people should. Libertarians have misplaced values and contrary to their claims have nothing to do with liberty and freedom
@pacrox2 If you want the best or most combative debater making the decisions, then I guess you want Newt Gingrich, and not a reporter that is fresh out of college, even if she happens to be right.
Teachers and others in public service unions are notoriously difficult to fire, and this has been illustrated by teachers that have received dozens of complaints of molestation. Schools were powerless to fire them until they were finally removed by the justice system (after more victims were added.)
The average school teacher makes $38,000 (2012) salary and with tenure you cannot fire them without dozens of forms and literally years of appeals. Matt Damon is one reason why the Education system is obviously lacking. He only needed to Google teachers salaries to find the answers.
Video summary: Woman who obviously has some issue with teachers bickers with Matt Damon about pensions. Then she talks about how much people hate bickering.
Never ever ever say to anyone you dont know that "I am just as educated as her" - just by assuming that.. you are not. The fool doth think he is wise, but the wiseman knows himself to be a fool.
Teachers get a pretty good salary, maybe not in comparison to Matt Damon's millions, teaching is pretty easy and they get summer breaks off, it's a dream job
@CaliforniaVolante Wow, dude. Really? Did you research this so you can claim these "facts"? Because let me tell you, teaching IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a dream job because of those "facts" you just stated.
@Avelqual I am a teacher and it's pretty easy. It's like day care sort of but not as difficult. Just "instruct" kids from the book and go home. Yes it is a fact you can go home during summer break, just like the kids, and it's awesome.
@CaliforniaVolante "Teachers get a pretty good salary, maybe not in comparison to Matt Damon's millions, teaching is pretty easy and they get summer breaks off, it's a dream job" If you're right then the best job in the world is picking grapes and cottons. Heck, they only have to work when there are grapes and cottons to pick right? Come on, do you think repeating crap often enough then the crap is true?
@CaliforniaVolante You don't know any teachers. If you do, then maybe they're the ones who don't know what else to do. It is not easy. It gets harder by the year with so many kids coming from broken homes, kids with learning problems, behavior problems. There is so much to teach and things happen that set you back. The job is never done. The salary is better than that of a McDs manager (I hope) but for the crap they deal with & the goals they have to achieve, it's not enough.
@siobanethier I know teachers and I agree the job is difficult, the pay is low and teachers do not have enough control of the classroom and curriculum. I think teaching for a test, no child left behind, is a horrible idea. Some of the Deweyite schools seem very interesting. Albert Cullum was a very good teacher and I think had a method that could be the start of a great model.
Sorry, but the idea that every teacher loves to teach is a farce and the biggest lie that I've ever heard. I appreciate a lot of the knowledgeable and passionate teachers that I've learned from, but not nearly every student in this country is as lucky. Sadly, the idiot reporter (and cameraman) didn't come prepared and stumbled her way through the entire interview. Matt Damon didn't bring much logic to the argument either, just emotion and coherent sentences.
@itsellieful "Sorry, but the idea that every teacher loves to teach is a farce and the biggest lie that I've ever heard...." How about just admit that you simply are a liar also? Because you and many others have repeatedly lied about having heard the biggest lie. I have heard a bigger lie - WMD. Right wing conservatives, that's a lie. Libertarians are anarchist commies, they lie all the time. So stop lying first, then your comment will have substance.
@moredeepster The point is teachers can still be fired. Even with tenure. So your point is mute. His statement is saying that if money was the only incentive why would people do it? It's not the only incentive is his point.
@siobanethier Does the typo change whether or not the idea is correct? No. Does using a typo to attempt to discredit someones argument make you a dick? Yes.
@NocheezRecords How did I use the typo to attempt to discredit your argument????? All I did was give you the correct spelling and a quick definition of the word you typed in error!!!
@NocheezRecords Actually, hold on. I don't think it qualifies as a typo. I think a typo is when you accidentally transpose one letter for another or accidentally type two of the same letter. I accidentally texted 'if' today when I meant to type 'it'. I don't correct what I perceive to be typos. Mute and moot do not sound exactly the same and they are spelled differently. It's really a case of getting two words confused.
@siobanethier "....It's really a case of getting two words confused." Well, I think he meant "mute." He's saying that the " i " in my "point" is silent.
@siobanethier Correct, do you feel wonderful now? Although I still knew the word moot. Hmmm, another dimension added. Anyhow, this is ridiculous. I rarely proofread, but good for you.
@NocheezRecords ".....So your point is mute....." I wonder if that's why my girl friend never seems to hear me when we're arguing. Anyway, please be so kind to remind me what point that was? Might I suggest you read beyond the 1st sentence which might give you more pleasing points - probably still moot but more along your thoughts.
@moredeepster - Jesus, just pointing out typo's means you truly do not have an argument. Is this the typo police, lol. Apparently you've never released anything with a typo in it. What point are you trying to make that is relevant to the video, or education? I agree education needs to be reworked. Tenure is not the major problem. Lack of critical thinking is the problem, like spelling a word correctly or rote memorization, but not being able to intelligently discuss an issue
@NocheezRecords "Jesus, just pointing out typo's means you truly do not have an argument...." I'm flattered that you call me Jesus, but I don't do wood - nor turn water into wine (beer's better). I don't recall finding a typo. Don't recall an argument with you either. Still waiting for you to remind me which point you were referring to. I think you misread my comment. Please read it again. :-)
@moredeepster - Not only do I make spelling errors apparently I send messages to the wrong folks, lol. Does anyone know what this discussion is about, lol.
The reporter and cameraman showed thier lack of understanding in this clip. Niether seemed to be able to explain thier positions. The reporter stated at one point that because she was a student she had just a much knowledge about the education system as a 20+ year teacher does. That i just plain ignorant
As foolish as thinking you know the medical profession because you go to your doctor twice a year for a check-up. Matt hinted at it: She came to the interview with her convictions and she was sticking with it no matter what. She doesn't quite get journalism.
Fire teachers? Good luck trying to find a qualified replacement at their salary. If you want to talk big about firing teachers you have to pay enough for them to be replaced. Are they paid too high? Of course not. They are paid waaaay too low for the job of teaching our disrespectful youths we now have in America. Most people can't or wouldn't do it for double their salaries.
@guysenjem do you have any idea how long the waiting list to becoming a teacher is? you could fire every teacher in the country and replace them all within a day. they should be paid by how good of a job they do. some should get paid more and some less and of course some should be fired. if you do the math and take a teachers salary and divide by the hours they work, they make a very good hourly wage. lets say $30,000/yr. thats over $27/hr.
@antdastardly1 maybe not but $30,000 is on the low end of their salaries. a teachers job is no more important than anyone else. i mean that the particular teacher should have any protection from being fired. most people's jobs are on the line everyday. do a good job or they can replace you. that same method should apply to teachers. they are very replaceable. afterall they are human like the rest of us. no one deserves job protection.
@edlover78 How will you replace them when nobody will take their place at that pay? No licensed and qualified professional anyway. It's just the free market speaking. Study it.
@edlover78 Yes I do. I teach in Minnesota. Even in Minnesota we have to hire unlicensed teachers because nobody wants to teach for the current pay. You could hire an unlicensed Doctor to brain surgery for 30,000 a year, but obviously that wouldn't be ideal would it? Think and research before you post. BTW, the hours they teach is not the same as they hours they work. Just as brain surgeon doesn't just work a few hours a week in surgery. You are completely clueless.
@guysenjem first of all before calling someone clueless look in the mirror. schools cant hire unlicensed teachers. its against the law in public schools. there are plenty of teachers just waiting for the opportunity to get that first teaching job. to say that you deserve job protection is just plain arrogant. my only assumption is that you are a horrible teacher as a good teacher wouldnt need protection. good teachers should get paid more and bad teachers should be fired.
@guysenjem first of all before calling someone clueless look in the mirror. schools cant hire unlicensed teachers. its against the law in public schools. there are plenty of teachers just waiting for the opportunity to get that first teaching job. to say that you deserve job protection is just plain arrogant. my only assumption is that you are a horrible teacher as a good teacher wouldnt need protection. good teachers should get paid more and bad teachers should be fired.
@guysenjem first of all before calling someone clueless look in the mirror. schools cant hire unlicensed teachers. its against the law in public schools. there are plenty of teachers just waiting for the opportunity to get that first teaching job. to say that you deserve job protection is just plain arrogant. my only assumption is that you are a horrible teacher as a good teacher wouldnt need protection. good teachers should get paid more and bad teachers should be fired.
@TheFantasticCorndog - Yo Corndog! For "facts", Google Michele Rhee and cheating scandal. Read an article or two. She has no credibility, none at all. She was the biggest lobbyist in my state last year, spent over $1 million trying to get her foot in the door here. That's what this is all about, didn't you know? Follow the money! There are billions of $ in public education and these greedy people want that money for themselves. They don't care about kids!
@southpore1 Damon is angry? um, did you hear the fat ignorant cameraman spouting off his angry gibberish? thanks for playing now back to nascar for you.
@NeverStopAlwaysRock Since you seem to be an expert at judging teachers, 11 years of school, a rare find, perhaps you could help us decide whether a teacher is good or bad if she gives lengthy lectures, gives lots of homework, gives strict grades & gives "A" to a few rare students, reprimands openly, gives very little or no praise, makes no effort to be interesting or to know a student better personally.
@TheFantasticCorndog - Sorry Corndog. Are you a principal? Are you a superintendent? What do you know about firing a teacher? It is no more difficult than it is in the private sector. You build a case, you document incidents, you give warnings. Hello! That's how it's done! If you know a bad teacher that has not been fired, then that teacher probably has a bad boss, otherwise known as ADMINISTRATION!
@paphiopedilumpal Well said. Perhaps some people think schools are run by teachers. Or they think teachers union frequently seek to prevent bad teachers from being removed. I wonder if most of those who think that way have never been fired or never fired someone else...
@UltraProle21 (i pay taxes, therefore i should have some say in what happens to teachers...) That's quite juvenile to say don't you think? How about law enforcement officers? firefighters? soldiers? And let's talk about how self centered and self important you think disregarding that "THEY" too pay taxes and provide civic service to any citizen. Their contribution to tax don't count as much as yours?
@moredeepster how is that juvenile? i feel the same way about all those professions, don't you? how bout if firefighters were making $300,000 a year in your city? would you have a problem with that? yeah, firefighters pay taxes, so what? i shouldn't have a say in their pay and benefits? lol members of congress pay taxes, therefore they shouldn't have any restrictions on what they receive? gimme a break.
@UltraProle21 You are juvenile to say that you pay tax and therefore you should have a say about what they should make. As tax payer, we have the right to demand accountability from politician, and yes, be outraged for obscene salary but not have a say because you are displeased. As if you have nothing better to do than to worry about every gov't payroll, you simply singled out teachers because it's a convenient target. If you want to have a say, get elected. Stop bitching.
@UltraProle21 I pay tax so I don't have to worry about some juvenile person like you who want to screw up a perfectly good gov't service because you think you know better just "because you paid tax." That's right, there are plenty of other tax payers like me who don't want people like you messing with public services and workers. I am happy with them and glad to pay tax for them because they serve the public and not just for you only.
@moredeepster ok. that's democracy. but i don't know how limiting the power of teachers unions and basing employment on performance would be "screwing up a perfectly good gov't service." i don't think it's a "perfectly good gov't service" in the first place.
@UltraProle21 (...but i don't know how limiting the power of teachers unions and basing employment on performance would be "screwing up a perfectly good gov't service."...) Power of teachers unions. Exaggerated. If they're powerful enough, they wouldn't be rallying-they just have to pass their own pay raise like legislators. It's fair to demand performance, but what standard? I don't want my kids commit suicide for entrance exam like Japan or other Asian countries.
@UltraProle21 I'll take a step back and let's say you are right. Teachers unions are powerful and they won't allow any teacher to be fired. What are we? Zombies? We are not helpless. Parents can always prevent a teacher from getting tenure with justification. Administrators could be removed from repeatedly hiring unwanted teachers. But most of the time, we don't care. We just want our tax cut and teachers to work for free. Sad thing is, most don't benefit from the tax cut
@UltraProle21 "better yet, why have tenure at all?" Better than what? Your juvenile question is undeserving a rational reply. Almost 150 years of contemporary modern education and tenure system that worked for this country, and somehow you think it's gotta go because you believe America is doomed? Let's face it, you're just some anti-American jerk pretending to be critical. There's a reason libertarianism is a joke.
@dbreiden83080 we're talking about losing your job due to poor performance. i never said tenure guarantees you a job. it's very difficult to get rid of them due to poor performance.
It's very diffidult to get rid of anyone that has been at a job for a long time due to poor performance. My Dad worked with a bunch of whiny pain in the ass women at the phone company who drank coffee all day and whined about their personal lives.. They didn't get fired. Don't single out teachers..
matt damon is only basing his info on what his mother told him, who is... a teacher. so obviously he's gonna defend teachers. i think i'm in the middle on this issue, i don't even know. but i do think tenure for teachers can be bad because a lot of teachers are horrible teachers who make no effort and they need to be fired
Wow your journalist should be fired, first she has no idea what shes talking about and two she got her ass handed to her by matt damon. Next time maybe she should attack Betty White.
listen to this " arent 10% of the teachers bad tho'? " - where did you get that number and the camera man respond " i dont know " I rest my case....people forget Matt Damon is not only actor and his mom isnt just a teacher....Matt is also a former Harvard student....
What Damon's saying is completely true. My mum's a teacher, she works the hardest out of anyone I know, for very little income. This needs to be recognized.
This reporter is going about it in an unprofessional manner, but it’s incredibly naive to think that there aren’t teachers taking advantage of tenure status. I personally know a few that brag about it on a regular basis.
No substantive argument on either side. Damon seems to be saying that because teaching is hard and pays very little, that only great people would choose to teach and therefore teachers need not be subject to performance-based standards for compensation, termination, etc., like most professions. That is absurd. Like every profession teachers run the gammit from hero to scum. Can anyone out there say all their teachers were good? Of course not.
etsneroj 9 hours ago
Lol......go Matt dick her around!
MrRonPaul2012 19 hours ago
Matt Damon's awesome.
crichmond77 1 day ago
LOL looks like someone brought a lavalier to a mic fight.
unInnocentBystander 1 day ago
I think all teachers should quit and let the parentso take care of and teach their own kids, people constantly bitching but those same fucking people send their kids to public schools, if your don't like it then home school your kid our send them to private school, wait you want the government to take care of that too? All of you have such great ideas on how to make the world a better place maybe you should be teachers or better yet get off your ass and take care of your own fucking kids.
CRMXER 3 days ago
Matt Damon is an idiot.
That 'expert' needs to learn about all the teachers who make fun of students, have tenure, and don't get fired
TheAJOlding 3 days ago
Someone send him the documentary on schools.... Waiting for Superman.
TheKaffeeKlatsch 4 days ago
Only an actor is capable of believing he's Nietzsche's ubermensch. What a laugh.
Those who are truly "over" would never recognize it.
mortald 4 days ago
When I become dictator I will drink the blood of Matt Damon. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha just kidding Ron Paul 2012! I like Matt Damon but I disagree with big government.
araiderfreak1 5 days ago
Only when you're as rich as Matt Damon is money not a motivator.
mortald 5 days ago
is this matt damon guy coked up or what?
yuri29442 5 days ago
i love how he deflects the issue of 10% bad teachers by calling the cameraman a shitty cameraman. but, you know, you're probably right matt, there have never been, nor will there ever be a bad teacher in america that neglects to fulfill his/her duty as a teacher.
yuri29442 5 days ago
this guy is matt damon, people. do not question his authority. he is always right.
yuri29442 5 days ago
@yuri29442 This is his mentality, talk about shitty hours? Teaching kids for 6 hours a day and working 8 hours of work, and then having a 4 months worth of break? Cmon he's just using his persuasive skills he picked up as acting, not reasoning and critically thinking.
SarionFetecuse 3 days ago
"there's an answer from an expert who said that's not true"... who? your mom? who happens to be a a lifelong teacher. and she's preaching about how easy it is for teachers to lose their job... that's there's no job security with tenure. meanwhile she has been a teacher her entire life. SURE!
yuri29442 5 days ago
This shows the out right stupidity of the Hollywood elite. Matt lives in LA ,yet knows nothing of the school district. And for those foolish enough to believe what he says. Look up "Stupid in America" on Youtube. Throwing money at problem accomplishes nothing except a heavy tax burden and poor economy.
humblaznlv 5 days ago
nice intimidation technique
mountain1212 6 days ago
@mountain1212 fuckin-a, I agree.
mortald 4 days ago
lol stupid bitch
HPhenomenal 6 days ago
"She's a teacher, I was in school, I'm just as educated as she is.."
Did she really just say that? What the eff? Are you SURE you went to school?
SantaBJ 6 days ago
@SantaBJ I live in LA.. Matt lives in L.A. Yet all you have to do is look at the headlines to see what's going in our schools. Yet Matt wants to defend the government school system that protects and rewards bad teachers. No less than 3 teachers connected child molestation in less than 2 weeks!!! Yet thanks to the teachers union we have to pay them!! Again look up "Stupid in America" on YouTube. Then come back and comment.
humblaznlv 5 days ago
I feel a lot of hatred about this man
mattbell555 6 days ago
he is a shitty cameraman!
Metal80sfreak 1 week ago 11
Public school teachers don't have job security? Check out the documentary Waiting For Superman, it shows how it's nearly impossible for public school teachers to be fired even when they do stuff like assault students. And it costs way more money for the tax payers to fire a teacher than to keep them employed due to the ridiculously bureaucratic process imposed by the union.
dubified89 1 week ago
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In my state there is a program where they teach underprivileged kids for several years and get their student loans paid.
There are so many more incentives to teach and at horrible places that really don't require much effort or desire. Personal Experience; there are many teachers who break school rules and laws but instead of being fired or punish they are protected by their schools. No there are many arguments that could be made against this guy, whats his face & his school of misfit teachers.
BellTollsForThee 1 week ago
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BellTollsForThee 1 week ago
OWNED!
1982babyjo 1 week ago
MATT knows nothing but what's popular.
tboyd1542 1 week ago
EXPERT LOL.she is biased. she works for the education system. none of them, i repeat, none of them will say the system holds on to shitty teachers.
PitBullsBiteHard 1 week ago
Here is the thing Matt that the MBA types and the very rich don't understand.
They think people have a fair choice in the matter and plenty of other options when they get paid too little. It is simply not true .
mantonio121773 1 week ago
How about not making K-12 education compulsory? Now the kids who want an education will go to school and those who don't won't.
carobbins25 1 week ago
@carobbins25 So you would leave it up to some 5 year old kid to say if he wants to go to school or not? Hmm, let me think, what would a 5 year old say? School? Or watch TV? Smarten up, will ya?
ashkanlion23 1 week ago
@ashkanlion23 Ummm...let's be more mature than to ask me that obvious stupid question. K - 6 would be mandatory. A child would have the necessary skills by age 12 to say, "Would you like fries with that?" After the sixth grade, school would not be mandatory and a child can be kicked out of school for performance, just like so many teacher haters want them to be kicked out of schools because of theirs.
carobbins25 1 week ago
Matt your argument is circular. If teachers want to teach and won't get lazy, then why do they need tenure? Think about it. The fundamental principal behind any union is to get more than what the market will bear - be it tenure, greater benefits, pension etc. Teachers in the USA are horrible, The USA spends more per capita on education than every country in the world except one (Luxembourg). Yet the results are horrible. So the problem obviously isn't "not enough funding", it's bad teachers
MrVanjones 1 week ago
@MrVanjones Or bad students. It's a two way street, Chief.
carobbins25 1 week ago
@carobbins25 haha blame the students. awesome. you just summarized a teachers union: more money, more benefits, no accountability.
MrVanjones 1 week ago
@MrVanjones What money and benefits? Did you pay attention to what happened in Wisconsin? All I'm saying that it is a two way street. If you have a bunch of students who don't want to be there, why do we continue to blame teachers for not motivating them? Schools are not 8 hour day cares. They are institutions for education.
carobbins25 1 week ago
I don't know what the conversation he is having is mostly pertaining to the incentive of being a teacher is that teacher salaries are still better than many other jobs and the perks of having summers and weekends off along with being off at relatively the same time as your child is a mind blowing benefit.
fusionchef1 1 week ago
Damon is on point with this! The camera-man is shit.
SJSumner89 1 week ago
"because you were a student there... so you know how hard it is to fire"... etc
the shame!!!
Bigbreak2 1 week ago
this is why you should employ educated reporters who think before they say!
mattwilsondesigns 1 week ago
How does being a student make you an expert on teacher unions exactly? I don't get her point.
Guernicaman 2 weeks ago
Ultimately it's the parents responsibility-these people are idiots really
eternalperchedbird 2 weeks ago
I watched a dog pee on a fire hydrant once. I am now qualified to fight any type of fire.
tgijustin 2 weeks ago
I hate to tell the reporter this, but being a student in the system does not make you an expert on the educational system. Hey my brother was arrested once, does that qualify him to be a policeman?
hopereturns 2 weeks ago
@hopereturns you *hate* to tell the reporter?! ... come on! you'd love to tell the reporter that! I know it's an expression people use, ''I hate to tell you this..'' (when really they delight in it!).. but why not just say it directly: I wish I had been there to make the point that...
siobanethier 2 weeks ago
hehe.. maybe he *is* a shitty cameraman!
siobanethier 2 weeks ago
In a 2007 report, the nonprofit Education Sector found that nearly 19% of all public education spending in America goes towards things like seniority-based pay increases and outsized benefits -- things that don’t go unappreciated, but don’t do much to improve teaching quality. If these provisions were done away with, the report found, $77 billion in education money would be freed up for initiatives that could actually improve learning, like paying high-performing teachers more money.
you831able 2 weeks ago
@you831able We don't want to raise the pay of workers, teachers, etc, we'd rather reduce pay and have a race to the bottom so everyone can work under the poverty level. Let's all work service jobs at Walmart..Improve learning? Teaching for the stupid no child left behind test is the problem. Get kids to critically thinking. We need techniques of teaching like those of Albert Cullum.
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
New York City-The ironclad union contract requires that any teacher with tenure be paid their full salary and benefits if they are sent to the “Absent Teacher Reserve pool,” according to The Wall Street Journal. The average pay of a teacher in that pool? $82,000 a year. Some of the teachers have been in the pool since 2006. According to the Journal, the majority of teachers in the pool had “neither applied for another job in the system nor attended any recruitment fairs in recent months.”
you831able 2 weeks ago
If I hate my job I quit the job! These teachers know they get good deals.... So they protest and manipulate politicians through huge campaign donations, to get more money for doing a shitty job! Matt Damon, like many other actors live in this dream world, where they see themselves as an elite person, sent to judge everyone who disagrees with him. Why do private charter schools have a higher success rate? Because the teachers can get fired for being sub-par. His whole argument is stupid!
you831able 2 weeks ago
@you831able - Hmmm, reading this post and listening to Matt Damon I have reached the conclusion that it's you who is stupid.
Teachers can get fired anywhere. You're making things up.
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
@NocheezRecords Hmmmm, Nocheez define the word TENURE for me please? Isn't it strange that charter schools, with less funding have a much higher success rates? You must be a teacher! LOL! Fucking flake! If you're not a teacher, then I assume that you're a dim witted dolt, defending out right theft of tax payer money. Imagine if everybody could pay money to pick their boss, and have the power to tell your boss what your salary is going to be? Public sector unions do this!
you831able 2 weeks ago
@you831able There are a number of ways to look at the word. the fact remains that teachers who have tenure can be fired. So now what dip shit? I know teachers who do a wonderful job and care deeply, whats your point? They should get paid much more than they do. I believe there needs to be restructuring, but tenure is certainly not the main problem. How many teachers get tenure? And how long does it take them to get it, and isn't it their wonderful record that gets them tenure?
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
"It's impossible to fire someone with tenure." Just one more misconception about teachers. I know of several teachers with tenure who have been fired.
However, the interviewer spoke volumes about public attitude toward teachers. "I went to school, so I'm just as educated as she (a teacher) is (re: difficulty in firing teachers.) Almost everybody went to school and has had experience with teachers (including some bad experiences) so many feel that makes them an expert on education.
PapaT74 3 weeks ago
Teachers unions are fucking up this county and it's educational system, and retards like matt damon who make millions off of having no education dare to defend this dilapidated and archaic form of "education"? Wow, we are all fucked. Better get your kids in private school, or home school them unless you want them to turn into one of these entitled assholes.
critter505 3 weeks ago
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NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
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@critter505 Wrong, teachers have no power, the upper administrators do. They set the policies and curriculum. Making teachers waste all their time to teach for the test does not cause critical thinking. Memorization is not intelligence. We need to teach critical thinking. Teachers have an incredibly tough job and are paid way to little. Scumbag shareholders hang out on golf courses and watch their investments increase by the millions giving nothing to society. Get a grip.
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
@NocheezRecords Hey dumbass, try using a little "critical thinking", as well as a bit more comprehension and read the comment again. I said TEACHERS UNIONS!
critter505 2 weeks ago
@critter505 And I said School administrators.
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
@critter505 *its* educational system (it's=it is/it has). Matt Damon went to Harvard! He quit a few credits shy of his degree, but he still studied there! ...
siobanethier 2 weeks ago
@siobanethier Wow, you think you're smart because you have spell check? Fucking spelling Nazi with more time on his/her hands than most losers.
critter505 2 weeks ago
@critter505 I don't need spell check, I have my brain and I proofread before I click on the 'post' button.
siobanethier 2 weeks ago
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@siobanethier "I don't need spell check...." Hey, just like me! I don't use spell check either. Spell check only works for English - I type American anyway.
moredeepster 2 weeks ago
@critter505 "....spelling Nazi...." lol. That should be a SNL skid.
moredeepster 2 weeks ago
matt damon rules
94germandude 3 weeks ago
"She's a teacher, I was a student, so I'm just as educated as she is."
Wait, WHAT?! Who gave this woman a microphone?
jamesoblivion 3 weeks ago
Yet another liberal.
407ForRent 3 weeks ago
Real libertarians are people like Bakunin, Emma Goldman, Rosa Luxembourg, Antonie Pannekoek, Noam Chomsky etc. Libertarian socialists. It doesn't matter what you call it.
RSFO 3 weeks ago
I think he's being a bit naive. All teachers all want to teach? Yea right.
ReanimatedShad0w 3 weeks ago
@ReanimatedShad0w There may be that small amount of people in any profession that are not passionate about what they do, but that is irrelevant. He's saying teachers will have the incentive to teach and do a good job because it is what they want to do, not because there is little job security. Matt Damon is very educated and is far from naive. Just opinionated.
KumarTabla 3 weeks ago
Libertarians are so painfully dense. It is not impossible to fire a tenured teacher, there is a due process. Also a person becomes tenured because they have shown a long history of being a good teacher. The ones who deserve firing are a very small number of which they receive due process which people should. Libertarians have misplaced values and contrary to their claims have nothing to do with liberty and freedom
Navywxman 3 weeks ago
damon should run for president hes so smart
pacrox2 3 weeks ago
@pacrox2 If you want the best or most combative debater making the decisions, then I guess you want Newt Gingrich, and not a reporter that is fresh out of college, even if she happens to be right.
Teachers and others in public service unions are notoriously difficult to fire, and this has been illustrated by teachers that have received dozens of complaints of molestation. Schools were powerless to fire them until they were finally removed by the justice system (after more victims were added.)
dreamcore 3 weeks ago
The average school teacher makes $38,000 (2012) salary and with tenure you cannot fire them without dozens of forms and literally years of appeals. Matt Damon is one reason why the Education system is obviously lacking. He only needed to Google teachers salaries to find the answers.
brakanur 4 weeks ago
Watching John Stossel right now, he used this video. Made it very clear what an asshole Damon is. Teacher' unions suck.
AtlasObjectivist 4 weeks ago 2
Video summary: Woman who obviously has some issue with teachers bickers with Matt Damon about pensions. Then she talks about how much people hate bickering.
IsThisSiteGayorWhat 1 month ago
not a Matt Damon fan be he is 100% spot on here
kruknate 1 month ago
matt wins.
preytec 1 month ago
Never ever ever say to anyone you dont know that "I am just as educated as her" - just by assuming that.. you are not. The fool doth think he is wise, but the wiseman knows himself to be a fool.
UnknownPersonSix2 1 month ago
@UnknownPersonSix2 Good advice.
dreamcore 3 weeks ago
this isn't the complete the exchange if there isn't even a question to begin with
YoungCrs 1 month ago
The difficulty of firing teachers varies from state to state.
logsdonj 1 month ago
Matt Damon.
caporalchef4 1 month ago
Matt Damon is awesome.
Vogter616 1 month ago
i love damon's stare at 0:48 like he's thinking "how can a person be this f**king stupid"
zeeet 1 month ago
Teachers get a pretty good salary, maybe not in comparison to Matt Damon's millions, teaching is pretty easy and they get summer breaks off, it's a dream job
CaliforniaVolante 1 month ago
@CaliforniaVolante Wow, dude. Really? Did you research this so you can claim these "facts"? Because let me tell you, teaching IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a dream job because of those "facts" you just stated.
Avelqual 1 month ago
@Avelqual I am a teacher and it's pretty easy. It's like day care sort of but not as difficult. Just "instruct" kids from the book and go home. Yes it is a fact you can go home during summer break, just like the kids, and it's awesome.
CaliforniaVolante 1 month ago
If you're for real, then you're part of the 10% the cameraman was talking about.
jon87583 1 month ago
@CaliforniaVolante Where are you teaching? What grade? How long have you been teaching?
siobanethier 2 weeks ago
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@CaliforniaVolante "Teachers get a pretty good salary, maybe not in comparison to Matt Damon's millions, teaching is pretty easy and they get summer breaks off, it's a dream job" If you're right then the best job in the world is picking grapes and cottons. Heck, they only have to work when there are grapes and cottons to pick right? Come on, do you think repeating crap often enough then the crap is true?
moredeepster 3 weeks ago
@CaliforniaVolante You don't know any teachers. If you do, then maybe they're the ones who don't know what else to do. It is not easy. It gets harder by the year with so many kids coming from broken homes, kids with learning problems, behavior problems. There is so much to teach and things happen that set you back. The job is never done. The salary is better than that of a McDs manager (I hope) but for the crap they deal with & the goals they have to achieve, it's not enough.
siobanethier 2 weeks ago
@siobanethier I know teachers and I agree the job is difficult, the pay is low and teachers do not have enough control of the classroom and curriculum. I think teaching for a test, no child left behind, is a horrible idea. Some of the Deweyite schools seem very interesting. Albert Cullum was a very good teacher and I think had a method that could be the start of a great model.
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
Sorry, but the idea that every teacher loves to teach is a farce and the biggest lie that I've ever heard. I appreciate a lot of the knowledgeable and passionate teachers that I've learned from, but not nearly every student in this country is as lucky. Sadly, the idiot reporter (and cameraman) didn't come prepared and stumbled her way through the entire interview. Matt Damon didn't bring much logic to the argument either, just emotion and coherent sentences.
itsellieful 1 month ago
@itsellieful "Sorry, but the idea that every teacher loves to teach is a farce and the biggest lie that I've ever heard...." How about just admit that you simply are a liar also? Because you and many others have repeatedly lied about having heard the biggest lie. I have heard a bigger lie - WMD. Right wing conservatives, that's a lie. Libertarians are anarchist commies, they lie all the time. So stop lying first, then your comment will have substance.
moredeepster 3 weeks ago
@moredeepster The point is teachers can still be fired. Even with tenure. So your point is mute. His statement is saying that if money was the only incentive why would people do it? It's not the only incentive is his point.
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
@NocheezRecords the point is *moot* , not mute.. mute is the absence of sound.
siobanethier 2 weeks ago
@siobanethier Does the typo change whether or not the idea is correct? No. Does using a typo to attempt to discredit someones argument make you a dick? Yes.
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
@NocheezRecords How did I use the typo to attempt to discredit your argument????? All I did was give you the correct spelling and a quick definition of the word you typed in error!!!
siobanethier 2 weeks ago
@siobanethier - Who are the typo police?
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
@NocheezRecords Actually, hold on. I don't think it qualifies as a typo. I think a typo is when you accidentally transpose one letter for another or accidentally type two of the same letter. I accidentally texted 'if' today when I meant to type 'it'. I don't correct what I perceive to be typos. Mute and moot do not sound exactly the same and they are spelled differently. It's really a case of getting two words confused.
siobanethier 2 weeks ago
@siobanethier "....It's really a case of getting two words confused." Well, I think he meant "mute." He's saying that the " i " in my "point" is silent.
moredeepster 2 weeks ago
@siobanethier Correct, do you feel wonderful now? Although I still knew the word moot. Hmmm, another dimension added. Anyhow, this is ridiculous. I rarely proofread, but good for you.
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
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@NocheezRecords "Who are the typo police?" Not me. I'm too busy trying to figure out which point I made before.
moredeepster 2 weeks ago
@NocheezRecords ".....So your point is mute....." I wonder if that's why my girl friend never seems to hear me when we're arguing. Anyway, please be so kind to remind me what point that was? Might I suggest you read beyond the 1st sentence which might give you more pleasing points - probably still moot but more along your thoughts.
moredeepster 2 weeks ago
@moredeepster - Jesus, just pointing out typo's means you truly do not have an argument. Is this the typo police, lol. Apparently you've never released anything with a typo in it. What point are you trying to make that is relevant to the video, or education? I agree education needs to be reworked. Tenure is not the major problem. Lack of critical thinking is the problem, like spelling a word correctly or rote memorization, but not being able to intelligently discuss an issue
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
@NocheezRecords "Jesus, just pointing out typo's means you truly do not have an argument...." I'm flattered that you call me Jesus, but I don't do wood - nor turn water into wine (beer's better). I don't recall finding a typo. Don't recall an argument with you either. Still waiting for you to remind me which point you were referring to. I think you misread my comment. Please read it again. :-)
moredeepster 2 weeks ago
@moredeepster - Not only do I make spelling errors apparently I send messages to the wrong folks, lol. Does anyone know what this discussion is about, lol.
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
@moredeepster There are so many wasted posts on spelling, if you could just post the idea you had again. :-)
NocheezRecords 2 weeks ago
"Yeah, and maybe you're a shitty cameraman. Maybe 10% of cameramen should do something else. What's you point?" :D C-C-C-Counter Strike! :D
ksym 1 month ago
The reporter and cameraman showed thier lack of understanding in this clip. Niether seemed to be able to explain thier positions. The reporter stated at one point that because she was a student she had just a much knowledge about the education system as a 20+ year teacher does. That i just plain ignorant
cletusallretus1 2 months ago
As foolish as thinking you know the medical profession because you go to your doctor twice a year for a check-up. Matt hinted at it: She came to the interview with her convictions and she was sticking with it no matter what. She doesn't quite get journalism.
jon87583 1 month ago
Fire teachers? Good luck trying to find a qualified replacement at their salary. If you want to talk big about firing teachers you have to pay enough for them to be replaced. Are they paid too high? Of course not. They are paid waaaay too low for the job of teaching our disrespectful youths we now have in America. Most people can't or wouldn't do it for double their salaries.
guysenjem 2 months ago
@guysenjem do you have any idea how long the waiting list to becoming a teacher is? you could fire every teacher in the country and replace them all within a day. they should be paid by how good of a job they do. some should get paid more and some less and of course some should be fired. if you do the math and take a teachers salary and divide by the hours they work, they make a very good hourly wage. lets say $30,000/yr. thats over $27/hr.
edlover78 1 month ago
@edlover78 That does not include the hours after school that they work. One of my teachers often goes in on a Sunday for God's sake.
antdastardly1 1 month ago
@antdastardly1 maybe not but $30,000 is on the low end of their salaries. a teachers job is no more important than anyone else. i mean that the particular teacher should have any protection from being fired. most people's jobs are on the line everyday. do a good job or they can replace you. that same method should apply to teachers. they are very replaceable. afterall they are human like the rest of us. no one deserves job protection.
edlover78 1 month ago
@edlover78 How will you replace them when nobody will take their place at that pay? No licensed and qualified professional anyway. It's just the free market speaking. Study it.
guysenjem 1 month ago
@edlover78 Yes I do. I teach in Minnesota. Even in Minnesota we have to hire unlicensed teachers because nobody wants to teach for the current pay. You could hire an unlicensed Doctor to brain surgery for 30,000 a year, but obviously that wouldn't be ideal would it? Think and research before you post. BTW, the hours they teach is not the same as they hours they work. Just as brain surgeon doesn't just work a few hours a week in surgery. You are completely clueless.
guysenjem 1 month ago
@guysenjem first of all before calling someone clueless look in the mirror. schools cant hire unlicensed teachers. its against the law in public schools. there are plenty of teachers just waiting for the opportunity to get that first teaching job. to say that you deserve job protection is just plain arrogant. my only assumption is that you are a horrible teacher as a good teacher wouldnt need protection. good teachers should get paid more and bad teachers should be fired.
edlover78 1 month ago
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@guysenjem first of all before calling someone clueless look in the mirror. schools cant hire unlicensed teachers. its against the law in public schools. there are plenty of teachers just waiting for the opportunity to get that first teaching job. to say that you deserve job protection is just plain arrogant. my only assumption is that you are a horrible teacher as a good teacher wouldnt need protection. good teachers should get paid more and bad teachers should be fired.
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@guysenjem first of all before calling someone clueless look in the mirror. schools cant hire unlicensed teachers. its against the law in public schools. there are plenty of teachers just waiting for the opportunity to get that first teaching job. to say that you deserve job protection is just plain arrogant. my only assumption is that you are a horrible teacher as a good teacher wouldnt need protection. good teachers should get paid more and bad teachers should be fired.
edlover78 1 month ago
Dear Mr. Damon, just because you played a smart person in a movie does not make you one in real life.
LadyLiberty1885 2 months ago
@LadyLiberty1885 Just because you can type, doesn't mean you should. What a cow. You must hate America.
rossl0201 2 months ago
@rossl0201 You're sweet.
LadyLiberty1885 2 months ago
@LadyLiberty1885 um, he pretty much talked circles around that reporter who clearly had no clue what she was talking about.
Theorb23 2 months ago
@Theorb23 Nope. He sounds impressive but not one thing he stated is true. Sorry.
LadyLiberty1885 2 months ago 2
@LadyLiberty1885 Yeah maybe, but I think it just boggles your mind that he's actually smart for some weird reason
MrBootieBuckets 1 month ago
@LadyLiberty1885 No, he is impressive and he shut that chick down bigtime! Don't hate!
zume2600 1 month ago
@TheFantasticCorndog - Yo Corndog! For "facts", Google Michele Rhee and cheating scandal. Read an article or two. She has no credibility, none at all. She was the biggest lobbyist in my state last year, spent over $1 million trying to get her foot in the door here. That's what this is all about, didn't you know? Follow the money! There are billions of $ in public education and these greedy people want that money for themselves. They don't care about kids!
paphiopedilumpal 2 months ago
Matt Damon is one angry libtard. Is he another one of those Scientology dudes like Tom Cruise?
southpore1 2 months ago
@southpore1 Damon is angry? um, did you hear the fat ignorant cameraman spouting off his angry gibberish? thanks for playing now back to nascar for you.
Theorb23 2 months ago
Matt Damon thinks he's Will Hunting.
KristianHicks 2 months ago
Well pretty amazing that he would mention shitty camera men in the interview.
08timlfc 2 months ago
@NeverStopAlwaysRock Since you seem to be an expert at judging teachers, 11 years of school, a rare find, perhaps you could help us decide whether a teacher is good or bad if she gives lengthy lectures, gives lots of homework, gives strict grades & gives "A" to a few rare students, reprimands openly, gives very little or no praise, makes no effort to be interesting or to know a student better personally.
moredeepster 2 months ago
@TheFantasticCorndog - Sorry Corndog. Are you a principal? Are you a superintendent? What do you know about firing a teacher? It is no more difficult than it is in the private sector. You build a case, you document incidents, you give warnings. Hello! That's how it's done! If you know a bad teacher that has not been fired, then that teacher probably has a bad boss, otherwise known as ADMINISTRATION!
paphiopedilumpal 2 months ago
@paphiopedilumpal Well said. Perhaps some people think schools are run by teachers. Or they think teachers union frequently seek to prevent bad teachers from being removed. I wonder if most of those who think that way have never been fired or never fired someone else...
moredeepster 2 months ago
i pay taxes, therefore i should have some say in what happens to teachers. if other companies have problems with firing people, that's their issue.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
@UltraProle21 (i pay taxes, therefore i should have some say in what happens to teachers...) That's quite juvenile to say don't you think? How about law enforcement officers? firefighters? soldiers? And let's talk about how self centered and self important you think disregarding that "THEY" too pay taxes and provide civic service to any citizen. Their contribution to tax don't count as much as yours?
moredeepster 2 months ago
@moredeepster how is that juvenile? i feel the same way about all those professions, don't you? how bout if firefighters were making $300,000 a year in your city? would you have a problem with that? yeah, firefighters pay taxes, so what? i shouldn't have a say in their pay and benefits? lol members of congress pay taxes, therefore they shouldn't have any restrictions on what they receive? gimme a break.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
@UltraProle21 You are juvenile to say that you pay tax and therefore you should have a say about what they should make. As tax payer, we have the right to demand accountability from politician, and yes, be outraged for obscene salary but not have a say because you are displeased. As if you have nothing better to do than to worry about every gov't payroll, you simply singled out teachers because it's a convenient target. If you want to have a say, get elected. Stop bitching.
moredeepster 2 months ago
@UltraProle21 I pay tax so I don't have to worry about some juvenile person like you who want to screw up a perfectly good gov't service because you think you know better just "because you paid tax." That's right, there are plenty of other tax payers like me who don't want people like you messing with public services and workers. I am happy with them and glad to pay tax for them because they serve the public and not just for you only.
moredeepster 2 months ago
@moredeepster ok. that's democracy. but i don't know how limiting the power of teachers unions and basing employment on performance would be "screwing up a perfectly good gov't service." i don't think it's a "perfectly good gov't service" in the first place.
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@UltraProle21 (...but i don't know how limiting the power of teachers unions and basing employment on performance would be "screwing up a perfectly good gov't service."...) Power of teachers unions. Exaggerated. If they're powerful enough, they wouldn't be rallying-they just have to pass their own pay raise like legislators. It's fair to demand performance, but what standard? I don't want my kids commit suicide for entrance exam like Japan or other Asian countries.
moredeepster 2 months ago
@UltraProle21 I'll take a step back and let's say you are right. Teachers unions are powerful and they won't allow any teacher to be fired. What are we? Zombies? We are not helpless. Parents can always prevent a teacher from getting tenure with justification. Administrators could be removed from repeatedly hiring unwanted teachers. But most of the time, we don't care. We just want our tax cut and teachers to work for free. Sad thing is, most don't benefit from the tax cut
moredeepster 2 months ago
@moredeepster better yet, why have tenure at all?
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@UltraProle21 "better yet, why have tenure at all?" Better than what? Your juvenile question is undeserving a rational reply. Almost 150 years of contemporary modern education and tenure system that worked for this country, and somehow you think it's gotta go because you believe America is doomed? Let's face it, you're just some anti-American jerk pretending to be critical. There's a reason libertarianism is a joke.
moredeepster 3 weeks ago
the mic lady is right. it's veeerrrrry hard to fire teachers.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
@UltraProle21
Not these days it isn't. Budget cuts are getting teachers laid off tenured or otherwise left and right.. And that is not a good thing,,.
dbreiden83080 2 months ago
@dbreiden83080 laid off is different than fired. i'm talking about being terminated due to poor performance, not budget constraints.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
@UltraProle21
Losing your job is losing your job. Tenure does not guarantee you a job in spite of what uneducated assholes want people to believe..
dbreiden83080 2 months ago
@dbreiden83080 we're talking about losing your job due to poor performance. i never said tenure guarantees you a job. it's very difficult to get rid of them due to poor performance.
UltraProle21 2 months ago
@UltraProle21
It's very diffidult to get rid of anyone that has been at a job for a long time due to poor performance. My Dad worked with a bunch of whiny pain in the ass women at the phone company who drank coffee all day and whined about their personal lives.. They didn't get fired. Don't single out teachers..
dbreiden83080 2 months ago
Matt Damon doesn't fuck around I see
Snake711cool 2 months ago
matt damon is only basing his info on what his mother told him, who is... a teacher. so obviously he's gonna defend teachers. i think i'm in the middle on this issue, i don't even know. but i do think tenure for teachers can be bad because a lot of teachers are horrible teachers who make no effort and they need to be fired
phantomwaltz 2 months ago
It's not complete
cyrussukhia 2 months ago
Wow your journalist should be fired, first she has no idea what shes talking about and two she got her ass handed to her by matt damon. Next time maybe she should attack Betty White.
300Dylan 2 months ago
How is this the complete exchange if it stops right in the middle of someone talking?
BiggestOfDaddies 2 months ago
Damon 2012
TheDoctorisin2181 2 months ago
That chick is a total moron which is exactly why she's pushing a right-wing point of view. Bless her and her cute pumps.
SylG73 2 months ago
SHE WAS A TEACHER AND I WAS A STUDENT, SO WE ARE EQUALLY EDUCATED. What kind of logic is that? Amazing.
Elmaln 2 months ago 4
listen to this " arent 10% of the teachers bad tho'? " - where did you get that number and the camera man respond " i dont know " I rest my case....people forget Matt Damon is not only actor and his mom isnt just a teacher....Matt is also a former Harvard student....
muratshawn 3 months ago
What Damon's saying is completely true. My mum's a teacher, she works the hardest out of anyone I know, for very little income. This needs to be recognized.
Vamparanoidable 3 months ago
This reporter is going about it in an unprofessional manner, but it’s incredibly naive to think that there aren’t teachers taking advantage of tenure status. I personally know a few that brag about it on a regular basis.
RunningRabbit1987 3 months ago
LMFAO 1:16 "but you're not..."
TheSmalltownZombie 3 months ago