12/19/09 Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) Delivers Weekly GOP Address On Health Care

[AChildMolester]

Barack Obama, according to Republicans, is the worst and most divisive person in history.

John McCain lost against him, so either we must all be really ignorant, or John must be really corrupt.

[WilbergWBWW]

@AChildMolester

THIS MAN IS FOREVER A FAILURE ROFL.

fails to BUSH AND OBAMA.

LOOK AT HIS INSANE FACE AND WAY HE SPEAKS, HE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE, HE IS JUST GOING TO LYNCH AS A SENATOR TILL THE DAY HE DIES.

[ritzwayne]

I like that people call him stuff but don't say why. Just that they don't like him. Because they are like sheep. They follow were they are told to go. If you don't like him or what he's saying say why. He wasn't my first choice, but I would rather have him then Obama, Socialized Heath Care, open boarders, major gun control, unnecessary taxes and many other things are why Obama is bad.

[dioni81]

fuck you  pig..lair

[thisismewhy]

John McCain is a fag

[StarStruckedSam]

So you can read off a teleprompter. Good job McCain. Now go run along an spread your bull shit some where else >.> Im sick of both sides, republicans and democrats. Both lie to get people to agree with their views.

[btc8128]

I really enjoyed that. Thats very nice, very funny. My friend you are a liar and a thief.

[gumpydoood]

When the corporations want something, like free trade or NAFTA, they get it easily with true bipartisanship. These two parties can agree on nothing except when it comes to the wealth of corporations. We should not be hoodwinked about that fact.

[Smartassawhip]

Thank God we dodged that bullet.

[bnther36]

Did I hear right? I will have to pay a fine - as in 'break the law' kind of fine - if I choose not to get health insurance? That can't be right can it?

The government can't make it 'against the law' to not buy something! This is the land of the 'Free and the Brave'...isn't it ?!

[CjAz91]

Thanks everyone who voted a dem into office! 128% increase in health care premiums is what we are all getting now! How stupid do you have to be to think this will be free! So we all get higher premiums because you would rather have a cell phone then health insurance! Just wait till all our names get on a list! Ron Paul 2010!

[1957joshua]

Hey man all the Republicans religious christians will do is spend BILLIONS and trillions on WAR anywhere on the planet but when it comes to health care which is FAR LESS costly than war... they cry and whine on the news we can not afford it! Because the insurance white fat cats are the ones paying for reaellection of those fat white christian nazi politicans back in office so they won't spend Americans money on our country. NO farms left no factories - dumb idea. Open factories! Put us to work

[gumpydoood]

Free trade is a great idea. Unfortunately, it was flung upon us at a time when our wages were around $15 to $20 and hour & chinese & 3rd world countries were 15 cents or less an hour. Someone at the time should have recognized that would be a problem. We are now seeing the rotting fruits of that effort. It amounted to global Union busting, wholesale outsourcing that lead to record incomes at the very top, the gutting of our industrial base & the near elimination of the middle class.

[CjAz91]

Yeah, don't judge. I happen to be a pagan conservative (libertarian) who also wants to legalize pot. You just make your self sound ignorant, slinging around names does not prove your point. Even the left hates this idea, or what it has now become. Oh well you will see. All parties are wrong. The dems just happen to be more evil right now. The two party system is the down fall of us all.

[MyGrassroots]

Your all retarded. Learn economics and you'll see how this bill is a tool to cripple the economy. They are trying to create a new global government. YouTube the New World Order.

[gumpydoood]

Youtube Kennediy's brain in a pickle jar, conspiracy dumbass.

[humanisall]

OOoh grandpa. Theres no need to be scared, you'll be taken care of, too. And if mr. magoo needs someone to whip is ass, there will be nurses to oblige him. Its the insurance companies screwing the health care system and the propaganda the conservatives cry about. All their whinying gets them nowhere.

[p3ntacle]

Let's just get the damn bill passed. I'm sick of hearing all the whining. Who wrote your speech? Did you forget that this is what Obama had proposed? But since the insurance companies and disinformation campaigns cracked down, democrats have been forced to water down the bill. All because of people like you, who stand in the way of progress. Who spread lies. Who can't get the facts straight.

[davidpark68]

"Did you forget that this is what Obama had proposed?" Mandated health Insurance? I thought that's what Hillary proposed? one things for sure, Change is coming & I don't think it was the type of Change most people was Hoping for.

[1911arthur]

Hi, I'm John McPenguin, I am for all of you scum to go find a job at McDonalds for 7 bucks an hour so I can feel good about America!

I spit on you like my Republican friends do as we love to send your job overseas for a nickel profit and we HATE unions, as we might have to pay you dumbass Americans a wage you could actually live on. We hate your freakin families and kids, too, as we want you to starve while we order our new jets and yahacts.

Isn't this the American Dream you're living?

[WeBeGood06]

Hi John McCain,

I thought Republicans were the ones who Reformed the Pharmaceutical Industry when Republicans controlled Congress and President. I just wanted to thank you and the Republicans for making it illegal to buy American Manufactured Drugs from Canadian Retailers. Thanks for protecting me from those dangerously cheap American Manufactured Drugs. Hopefully this Democrats are as good as you Republicans when it comes to Reforming Healthcare.

Thanks again.

[1911arthur]

I'm John McInsane. I work for Blue Cross, not you.

I'm for the rich to get richer and for total elimination of the middle class.

I'm for 9 dollar an hour Walmart jobs,part-time of course, selling foreign produce and hawking chinese trinkets for the rest of you scum. You should be happy!

[1957joshua]

I wish this old Nazi christian bigot rascits human penis - would die already. He and his whole nazi republican party who have sold out Americans! The republicans have no problem spending BILLIONS of our tax dollars on WARS... but when it to healthy care for Americans.. it's like THAT'S TOO COSTLY. What republicans are really saying is the poor and working class - should fend for themselves. NOw we hear from the Repubs EVERYDAY with advice where were they for 8 yrs??

[HateRepublicans]

well said, Republicans are scum

I hated the Islamic terrorists before the Bush administration, but the Christian terrorists have showed me this new side of America

I hate these Republicans so much, if McCain would have won back in 2000, I am sure he wouldn't have led America on the destructive path like it was during the Bush era, but now he is just another Republican who is for the rich getting richer and everyone else can go fuck themselves

I hate these people so much

[CjAz91]

yeah well you would not be poor if you worked! And saved! But my tax dollars go to those who do not. I won't even see a dime of my SS because I save for my own retirement. I am in my 20's and make 20, grand. If I can do it so can everyone else. Health insurance is not expensive. Anyone that is not able to pay, I will look over your numbers and help you find a way. Funny how no one wants to cut out cable or get a cheaper car to be able to afford it.

[chaosdei5]

if you took a basic economics class you would understand that what you said makes no sense. its called the cycle of poverty.

[DillonX]

Barack has been a disappointment for me, but he's still so much better than McCain would've been.

[HateRepublicans]

Barrack really isn't a dissapointment, when you have the Republicans who are the sworn enemies of America and anything decent about this country,it is kind of hard to progress

America is still a very Conservative friendly country, any type of "liberalism" the Republicans destroy

[gumpydoood]

The Dems shoved this Health Care Bill down the throats of these stupid troglodite knuckledraggin Republicans. KUDOS!

Now, go brew yourself some SOUR GRAPE TEA, John McCain, and have a good fucking cry while the adults get to work.

[Ma3lst0rm]

This country's birth right was won by patriots cold, hungry, many with frost bite and some with rags for shoes. These men followed George Washington across the Deleware on Christmas Eve not to secure the wealth of their fellow citizens to satisfy their needs and wants but to win a right to live in a country where the idea of liberty and the citzen sovereign was a reality. We all should make sure that this country is not destoryed on the same day it was secured. Patriots rise!

[gumpydoood]

They fought and the Bill of Rights was not added until after several popular rebellions. The officers of Washingtons army were well dressed and fed while the men had no shoes & often weren't paid.

This country was secured for the wealthy & the working man has had to scrap every inch to get recognized.

[davidpark68]

But yet some of us have worked hard & have done it.

This country was secured for the Opportunity to become wealthy.

[gumpydoood]

No doubt this is true. But as Jefferson, Madison and Tom Paine all agreed, the wealthy should be called upon to pay the price of government. Tom Paine was the biggest "socialist" (they used another word. . .fair) of them all.

Look it up.

[davidpark68]

you need to understand that we are FAR from what was Intended. the majority of the power was to be with the states not the federal government. the federal government had limited responsibilities that could be paid for through the Corporate income tax & tariffs. we now have so many Entitlements that it would force us into a fascism or communism if the government put the burden of supporting the population on the corporations. Limit the size of the government to what it was intended to be ........

[davidpark68]

.......... & corporate America could pay for it through their corporate taxes. we can't expect them to be able to fund a socialism & compete with corporations outside of the US.

[gumpydoood]

Don't shed a tear for the corporations, pal. They have enjoyed record profits as a result of "free trade" and shipping jobs overseas. And the amount of money corporate fat cats "earn" (steal) has increased dramatically since the 1950's as a multiple of earners wages. Japan, who rival us in autos, has no where near the same compensation for their executives. And, as one single example, the CEO of United Healthcare makes a half million dollars A DAY while denying claims & causing premature deaths.

[davidpark68]

No tears shed, Personally I think the Gov caters too much to them when it come's to subsidies & Bailouts. I wasn't defending Corporations but I'm also not Envious of their earnings. Vote with your money, if you don't like a Corporations practices, don't buy their products. a corporate "Fat cat" has to spend their money somewhere weather it's on a yacht or the park avenue stores, when he\she does they create jobs. so stop hatin' success.

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[davidpark68]

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BTW Insurance is a Bet, Insurance bets that a group of people will, for the most part, be healthy so they can Profit from that group. not much of a bet if you know that a group is unhealthy. Insurance isn't for people who need constant medical treatment, it's for those that need medical treatment occasionally. if you want to lower costs, eliminate Insurance all together, this way the people will set the price for medical treatment.

[gumpydoood]

Corporations create jobs in foreign lands thanks to the lie of "free trade". Corporations today don't give a ratsass for the working man. They have been eroneously given the same rights as individuals. It's time they were held accountable and paid their fair share.

Jefferson spoke of "an earthly paradise paid for by the contributions of the rich alone". Oh those "socialist" founding fathers. They had a different word. . ."FAIR".

[davidpark68]

Regulations like the SarbanesOxley Act & increased taxes like the new Cap & Trade should take care of them Evil corporations, maybe even chase them out of this country. we don't need their Stinking Jobs, we have a Government & a Printing Press & a whole lotta Hope.

a few of My Favorites from Jefferson

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. ...................

[davidpark68]

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I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. ..........

[davidpark68]

.......................The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

[davidpark68]

BTW you do know we have a Tiered Income tax where the Rich not only pay more Because they make more but also a higher Percent.

[gumpydoood]

When the top 1% makes more than the combined total of the bottom 50%, then certainly they should pay more in taxes. That is one thing that is great about this system is that it creates enormous wealth at the very top. They also benefit disproportionately from the ("socialist"!) infrastructure that wingnuts decry.

Jefferson spoke of "an earthly paradise paid for by the contributions of the rich alone". A system such as that would not be "socialist". . .it would be "fair".

[davidpark68]

so your saying you would like to have a government like we had before the federal reserve? ..........OK.

[gumpydoood]

When & where did I say that? Do you simply respond to what you THINK someone has said or do you actually READ their words?

I suggest a course in reading comprehension or perhaps logic: I really don't know where you FAILED so miserably.

[davidpark68]

When did income taxes start for income on labor?

[davidpark68]

Let's talk about being a Failure. I'm not the one Begging the Government to take care of me, you can't even provide the basics for yourself or your family. you want to live off of others accomplishments. You are the Failure here.

[gumpydoood]

I have no problem taking care of my family. That's not the issue. Please stick to the facts, not innuendo or stupid ad hominem attacks.

[davidpark68]

Typical Liberal, first you make an ad hominem attack, then ask for me not to return the favor.

I'll get to my point

up until 1913 the federal government was run with taxes from Corporations & not from income taxes as we know them today (except in times of war). back to Jefferson, the federal Government was set up to operate from corporate Income tax, therefore "an earthly paradise paid for by the contributions of the rich alone". was not only fair but was by design. What changed?

[davidpark68]

........look up what else we got in 1913, the federal reserve. do you know why our founding framers were against a central bank & fiat currency?

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property............

[davidpark68]

......... until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson

[davidpark68]

These Entitlements you favor are not about charity, they are about control. look at what is being passed, who does it benefit? does forcing you to buy Insurance benefit you? How about them bank bailouts, did they remove the "toxic assets" from the books? anyone who want's Bigger Government is only asking for more Government intervention, More Government control of their lives.

the real question should be "why can't I afford health care"

I Choose to control my own life

[gumpydoood]

Well control it then but when you get sick and your insurance company refuses to pay because they find an error in your application or a disorder you had prior or some other little insignificant reason they can sniff out and use not to pay your claim, and you have to fight them at the same time you are fighting for your life. . .don't come crying to me or to your representative. Stay steadfastedly upon your principles & simply die an early death.

[gumpydoood]

Sorry David, but the initial taxes that paid for the government were tariffs: import duties on items. And, I would be all for that now. It would not only provide incomes but would help domestic manufacturing & provide jobs for Americans. But, if we are going to have an income tax, it was originally only upon the wealthy & corporations & I think it should return to that.

[davidpark68]

"Sorry David, but the initial taxes that paid for the government were tariffs"..... Your Right

I don't disagree with anything you just wrote. our differences are about the size of government & their responsibilities. Government being the Federal Government.

I don't differ with your beliefs when it comes to state government. although I would chose not to live in that state.

[gumpydoood]

Don't recall exactly. . .I think it was 1914? You tell me.

[bnther36]

What the Democrats are doing with these reforms is along the same lines as writing a bad check to make a donation. Sure, your intentions might be good, but when it comes time to cash the check...

The best way to help costs A) give doctors a little more protection from frivolous lawsuits and B) allow foreign prescription drugs.

Let's start with that before we obligate ourselves to another indefinite tax burden.

[PhantomMaster101]

And MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU TOO!

Cut the happy holidays BS.

[gulf0827]

Many of the ideas that senator Mccain has cited in this address are ones that have been opposed by the republicans in the recent past!?!

The passage of this bill will do nothing to prevent further improvements to the health care system. Instead of doing everything to obstruct the improvements, let's get on with it.

I have been a supporter of the Republican party since the '60s. They failed miserably in the Bush admin and sadly they have lined up on the wrong side of this issue also.

[PartyofYes]

By the way, thanks John for bringing us Sarah Palin: the Quitter on Twitter. That's another example of your poor judgement.

[PartyofYes]

More meaningless whining from the disgraced Crybabies of the Right. Representatives are elected to serve the people. There is no way every Republican in the House and Senatw can have the same NO position on EVERY Democratic issue. That's not government, it is organized obstruction. If they had constructive input, they could have worked with the Democrats to reach a compromise. All they did, from the beginning, is signal that they were not onboard and would never be. Disgraceful.

[jsmythib]

Dont you understand that the federal government was never granted the power to do any of this? When the bullets start flying- remember me. I will not be bipartisan either.

[norkusman3]

@jsmythib read the constitution, they were given the power to make the laws of the land by representing the people

[jsmythib]

Clearly you need me to send you a copy.

[norkusman3]

@jsmythib "All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives."

[jsmythib]

keep going, the powers of each branch are enumerated clearly.

[norkusman3]

and i have read it many times and i find nothing that denies congress the right to make laws. anyway, the one thing we can agree on is that we both hate the socialist. =)

[jsmythib]

ya..sorry about the attack..I just cant believe what we live in now :( If ya ever need an egg or sugar just knock lol :)

[HateRepublicans]

norkusman3 is just anothe evil corrupt Republican who has never worked a day in his life

He thinks everyone is spoiled shits like him, his parents are probably corrupt doctors and brainwash him with their ideology

die you fucking Republican pig, I hope your parents die to, you republicans deserve to die for destroying america

fuck you republican

[MrSTANDFORAMERICA]

@HateRepublicans you euro's must be the dumbs animals on earth.

you know you can't hide behind a profile on youTube.

Why must so many of you euro's really beileve you can.

Anyway that really don't matter. What does matter it you can take your socialist euro's ass and keep it on you side of the pond. DUMB ASS!

[jsmythib]

and those powers are limited and enumerated.

[norkusman3]

its hard to know who to side with these days. i myself am a republican and i have enormous respect for john mccain but also barack obama. and my mother is a pediatrition and she has heard doctors argue both sides of this bill, it just gets so confusing getting stuck in the middle. i just hope whatever legislation is passed, that God will be on our side.

[HateRepublicans]

Insurance companies need to be eliminated, then all that money the Insurance companies take in as profit can be used to help people

But the Republicans are in bed with the Insurance companies and the blood money the Insurance companies make is more important then giving people health care

Republicans are a disgrace to humanity, I hate them so much, with every fiber of my being

The only good Republican is a dead one, I learned this over the 8 years of the Bush administration

[norkusman3]

Dear HateRepublicans:

This is exactly the kind of partisan that both parties hate, and what you are talking about is socialism, not democracy, which the majority of all parties hate. your ideas are the worst i have heard, unemployment is high enough and you're talking about killing insurance companies that employ Americans. you obviously also have no idea what good legislation the bush administration passed, establishing the dept of homeland security, no child left behind, medicare partD etc.

[HateRepublicans]

killing Insurance companies that employ americans?

Who the fuck cares about them, they make their money off of the suffering of others

Fuck them and Fuck you

And fuck the evil Republicans

You must be a scumbag Republican who makes money off the suffering of others like most of the Republican apologists in your party

Fuck you and die you Republican scum, I hate you

[HateRepublicans]

and Republicans dont believe in Partisan, they believe in making the rich richer and looking after Wall Street and the hell with everyone else

Fuck you Republican, your party is a cancer to America and the world

[jsmythib]

Democrats are funding the to big to fail..they are trying to funnel trillions into healthcare and cap and trade by passing laws to pay the insurance companies.? WHY? If you dont like people that try and stop that what do you approve of? Liberal democrats will destroy all of us, wake up. On a good day you would be lucky to find a decent human in either party.

[davidpark68]

"and looking after Wall Street and the hell with everyone else" Do you also hate Obama? Why not?

[HateRepublicans]

and Socialism is a million times better then the cancer the Republicans give us

Pure corporatism, look after the wealthy and wall street and the hell with everyone else

Fuck you Republican

[jsmythib]

I think you should add democrats to that statement. They seem to love the money so much they are willing to go further than anyone to save them. As for socialist..the only good socialist is a dead one.

[norkusman3]

@HateRepublicans get a job, kid. learn to appreciate. and get an education, too while you're at it. get a life and learn to appreciate the country that gives you everything, including that computer your parents paid for. all you socialists have never done a days hard work, you've had everything given to you. your extremism is also defeating your ideals, you have to have your way, and thats not what democracy is about. you try to kill freedom, but freedom will defeat you.

[HateRepublicans]

kill yourself you evil republican, and unlike you spoiled Republicans, I work for my money

I wonder how much money your mommy gives you, you already said she was a pediatrician

it figures you are an evil spoiled republican who has never worked in your life and you think everyone is like you

I work for my money, not like you evil spoiled corrupt trust fund babies who have never worked a day in your life and have never worked for anything

Die you Fucking Republcian

[davidpark68]

If you worked for your money why would you want the Government to take more of it?

[davidpark68]

Only if your a socialist dependent on a socialist system. Where's the incentive if there's no profit? will you work to care for those that don't?

[rocker4evr]

thank you Sen McCain. As always you abandoned the rhetoric and told us exactly what is going on with the health care bill right now. How can we trust any of the democrats when they refuse to talk to us about the bill itself? Every time I've talked to a democrat about this bill they blast me for being a heartless bastard who doesn't support health care reform. Obama and his party need to abandon the rhetoric and start telling the American people exactly what they are doing

[xiola6969]

It doesnt matter, if it passes in this form the entire white house and those responsible will be hanging from the trees on the white house lawn, put their by the American people. They cant pay our social security I have no faith in their ability to create a healthcare plan.