The right of the people to rule - Theodore Roosevelt

[fouroutoffivedoctors]

Hi,I'm related to the Hotel Gilpatrick family. The hotel burned down in 1941. The owner would have been my great,great grandfather. I was just wondering if you have any documentation of the attempted assassination Presdident Theodore Roosevelt. Oct.14th,1914 in the city of Milwaukee,WI. The was and did happen in front the the 'Hotel Gilpatrick. Please post!

[ockteby]

I am sorry I don't have any information about that event. If you find any additional information please feel free to post the information with this YouTube video.

Frank

[eaglewatcher7]

October 13, 1912: Three and a half years after he left office, Roosevelt was running for President as a member of the Bull Moose Party. In Milwaukee, Wisconsin, John F. Schrank, a saloon-keeper from New York, shot Roosevelt once with a .38 caliber revolver. A 50-page speech folded over twice in Roosevelt's breast pocket

[ThePilotman818]

@eaglewatcher7 u jusy have to think about it. what kinda person would shoot this great man

[ladynw777]

instead of light would not glory be preferable and instead of righteousness of humans the righteousness of christ-mr president?

[DaHool2]

This is pretty incredibly relevant concerning what's going on in most Western countries in the world right now. Too bad most people don't care about who controls their lives and to what extent.

[PS3EXCELLENCE]

<3 i love u

stop fighting pls. make love not drama. Ie

[bittergunowner12]

Wow what a true Progressive, these so called "Progressives" today are skunks that should be hung.

[frphilipmullen]

NOBAMA!

McCain/Palin 2008!

[ockteby]

GO Barracuda. :-)

Frank

[himkdm1]

This is the first recording of a president. Isn't it cool that we can just find it on a whim? And to you Paulites... these turn of the century presidents are a lot like him (I think Coolidge more than Roosevelt), that's why he can't possibly be president or run for a major party. A lot has changed in the past 100 years. We're not in a position to isolate ourselves and eliminate income taxes.

[liberalsloveyou]

Actually, Grover Cleveland was the first President ever recorded. You can find him just as easily. :)

[himkdm1]

The sound reel for Cleveland isn't his voice. It's an actor named Len Spencer. He read a series of old Presidential speeches for radio including Cleveland, Harrison, and McKinley. These got recorded for phonograph. Can't say why he did that, but hey. I guess in the era of youtube, we can just look up the last 50 years.

[Xclibur2001]

I was curious to find and hear a decent speech for the first time from Theodore Roosevelt. Teddy's accent is cool and very antique, but he sure knew how to speak better than Monkeyboy "Dumbya," who can't even put together a decent sentence.

Not to mention, Teddy was a fighter, according to what I've read and learned about him, and took no Balony. Look at our modern Repub. presidents............Bunch of Wussies. I'll make Reagan an exception amongst Wussies. Reagan was cool.

[gothprincess147258]

this dude is my hero

[alphawolfer61]

They were not Related at all. FDR in my opinion was a slimy Deal maker. He LET Stalin have Poland. Russia invaded and the U.S. and Britian looked away as planed. We did'nt realize the ambitions of Stalin till to late.

[ivanmullan3000]

What price a president like this today, a man who cant be bought, who acts in the national interest?? no lobbyists no big busniess..i fear for the future when we get this.."Here comes your US President sponsored by coca cola, Exxon and Ford moters" a true nightmare!

[alphawolfer61]

You have a Republican canidate that has those quailities,his name is Ron Paul, a strict constitutionalist and a 10 year voting recoad that goes as proof. I don't beleive in all, but It would be interesting moments with the congress.If any body could enlighten the taxpayer he could.Press ignores him and I'm REALLY pissed with courts defeat of KUCINICH. Can't even here anothers comments and theatrical poses of others in debate.

[ockteby]

This has been one of the most unusual primary seasons ever. I think YouTube and the internet is the reason. We had the internet in the last presidential election, but it look like its more in play now.

[UnitarianLibertarian]

I'm sorry, but Roosevelt was nowhere near the policies of Ron Paul. If Ron Paul was alive in the 1900's, he would have criticized policies like the interventionist Roosevelt Corollary or the massive governmental intrusion on our food industries.He believes in initiatives like not policing the world and decreasing the federal size of the US government.

[Silvsilvchan]

Looking over Roosevelt's ideology I am inclined to agree. However, Nader is the same way (with intervention into food markets and such). Is it odd that I consider Nader to be close to Ron Paul? Both are against the bail outs, foreign interventionism (mostly), and things like the Patriot Act. I think TR would be to on the first and last. Teddy was odd on foreign policy in that there were times he was interventionist and times he was not. He did lose a medal for criticizing the occupation of Cuba.

[ockteby]

Our system continues to work even if some of the situations look out of whack. We are lucky to have produced men like Theodore Roosevelt, and the intellect of those people of old continues to amaze me.

[700056]

Truly Teddy was one of best leader ever in the world. I wish there were leaders like him today. I can't name one leader today who is moral honest conservative and a true leader as he was. I like Pan Buchanan though. I'll vote for him. Ron Paul too liberal foriegn policy

[ockteby]

It's amazing how timely his words are today.

[Silvsilvchan]

Did I also mention that the emancipation proclamation only abolished slavery in the states that rebelled? It went on for a few more years in at least three slave states that had stayed loyal. Though I am a Southerner and a cherokee... so I think it's natural I feel bitter towards Lincoln and think he's over praised. =P

[FlyastheSky361]

why still feel bitter was the assasination not enough to satisfy your hate

[Silvsilvchan]

Because hating a president means I want him dead, obviously? Ad hominem isn't a good way to conduct an argument.

[Silvsilvchan]

Though looking back at it, I think I was being needlessly rude. Odd I would speak of childish flaming when I myself was being crass. XD

[alphawolfer61]

I agree with you.

[Silvsilvchan]

Oh, and you are wrong about Brittan. The South was trying to get them to intervene when they started losing. Brittan refused to side with either, but wanted to act as a mediator. Lincoln wouldn't have it. And yes, the South did offer to abolish slavery if Brittan would help them.

[Silvsilvchan]

To his credit, that was because he felt the nation could drive off threats better in that manner. Consider that every other nation in the world abolished slavery with out a war. Brittan bought all the slaves off the slave owners when it abolished it for instance. Lincoln WANTED a war. Though thanks. I was kinda expecting childish flaming over an intellectual response.

[maharal7]

In Africa Britain abolished at point of gun. Lots of War. Tsar was autocrat; Lincoln wasn't!

[Silvsilvchan]

How many people were killed? =p

[Silvsilvchan]

The states simply decided, of their own voluntary action, to join the confederacy. Lincoln never intended to free the slaves. It was never his reason for the war. He even stated, he didn't care if the union adopted slavery or the confederacy abolished it. Just that the nation as a whole should be one or the other. He wanted to form a strong centralized federal government. That was his ultimate, and frankly only, goal.

[FAHayek89]

1. Lincoln did not need to support the immediate abolition of slavery to oppose the institution. As long as the Republicans could ensure that more free states entered the Union than slave states, their cause would triumph in the end.

2. You say that Lincoln never truly wanted to end slavery, but then, what reason did the South have to secede after his election? What horrible injustice or oppression had he committed against them to make it necessary to dissolve ties?

3. Who fired first?

[Silvsilvchan]

1: Yes and no. They did pass legislation restricting what new states entering the union could and could not do, slavery was one such thing but there were others.

2: As soon as the South started to cede Lincoln offered to pass legislation that would have made slavery a right. South still ceded. Lincoln wanted to centralize power, he even stated he didn't care rather the whole country went anti or pro slavery so long as it did one or the other.

[Silvsilvchan]

3: South Carolinians fired warning shots at Union soldiers that refused to leave fort Sumner which was in their territory after repeatedly asking them to leave. Not a single person was killed.

Union fired the first lethal shot. Over property damage.

[bmf1706]

I think if Lincoln had just found a way to assure blacks the right to vote, then they would've elected Republican legislatures who would've ratified an amendment to end slavery...

[Silvsilvchan]

No, Lincoln supported slavery prior to reading her book and supported manifest destiny to his death. Need I remind you who the Native American tribes sided with during the Civil war? Also, what state was Sumnter in? South Carolina. I think, to an extent, the South was with in it's rights to want union troops out of there. And no one was actually KILLED during it. The South didn't aggressively drive into the union.

[alphawolfer61]

People (like today) used slavery as a postr child. Lincolin did not want this nation divided and he went to war for this purpose only. When the South seded from the union (United States) he couldn't allow that.

[Silvsilvchan]

Yeah, but 600,000 people and a huge scar that keeps us divided to this day... look at the 04 election. Split right down the same fault line. Was preserving the union worth the cost? Did it only make North/South relations worse for generations? These are questions you've gotta ask. Questions I think Lincoln might have asked himself. Clearly I disagree with his decision, or at the very least his methods.

[TheJoester1992]

there is no racism against Mexicans.Mexico is country.thats Nationalism....not racism people.not directed at u but im saying to those people who attack u

[AaronSG002]

We have room for but one flag, the American Flag. We have room

for but one language, the English language, and we have room for

but one sole loyalty, and that is a loyalty to the American people.

Pres. Theodore Roosevelt.

This is not racism, this is about the responsibilty of citizens of this country. Playing the race card is your sorry attempt to make us feel sorry for your illegal activity.

[alphawolfer61]

I am totally in sync with your feelings on this matter. Califonia has designated cities as places of refuge for illegals, now they think they own California.

[AaronSG002]

Title 8 Section 1235 of the U.S. Code, Improper Entry by Alien, Any citizen of any country other than

the United States who: Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as

designated by immigration officers; or Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or Attempts

to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful

concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.

[PolandSoldOutInYalta]

I just put up vid. on assassination of McKinley by Czolgasz. There is also talk about McKinley being a puppet in hand of Mark Hanna. There is also stuff on Theodore Roosevelt.

I'll be putting up more on here, there is 8 pieces of movie I got to post.

[FAPLAND]

T.R. A REAL MAN, HE BLEW AWAY MORE LIBS THAN WE HAVE IN CONGRESS TODAY. IF HE WAS STILL WITH US NANCY, HARRY, AND FAT ALBERT WOULD STILL BE RUNNING (away).

[Silvsilvchan]

As much as you jack off to that idea, he also would destroy the idiotic neo-cons like Bush. He hated people that tried to tell the people how to live their lives. He was the last true Libertarian, as far as I am concerned.

"unreasonable conservatism."

[evolution1138]

Most of what FDR put through were all policies that TR originally wanted to institute, but hadn't had the time... he needed another term.

[ockteby]

We wonder how the country would look today if some of these leaders had longer to serve. The study of our history is a fascinating subject, and I love it.

[roswellhoax]

Addressing the Knights of Columbus in 1915, Theodore Roosevelt warned, "The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities."

[CAMERONHAOL]

I AGREE

[sleuma]

F D Roosevelt was better...

[moondoggy63]

N-O-T!!!!!!franklin was a putz, created pearl harbor, and turned away jews fleeing nazi germany!teddy had 10 times the nuts & guts!!

[alphawolfer61]

Ya got the wrong Franklin bud.

[jkilts]

Definately one of the best presidents, with Lincoln, and (my 32nd cousine :D ) George Washington. We were just learning about him in humanities class- he should've beat Wilson, but at least he beat Taft. Thanks for posting this.

[ockteby]

Thanks for your reply jkilts

[Silvsilvchan]

Lincoln was an imperialistic asshole who fucked over the Native Americans and invaded the south soley for the sake of 'preserving the union'. He wasn't apposed to slavery until it served his own purposes and he threatened Brittan (who was also anti-slavery) with war, at one time actually attacking a brittish ship carrying confederate diplomats.

If you want to thank some one for freeing the slaves, thank John Brown or the woman that wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin. They were the true abolishers.

[jkilts]

By "F-ing over the Native Americans", you are referring to Manifest Destiny, where the United States expands west and reforms or moves the Native Americans... not one of our brightest hours, but you can't blame Lincoln for it. He opposed M.D. and wanted to expand on the land we already had.

[jkilts]

For Lincoln invading the South, you can't blame someone for invading a country while that same country is invading him. Sumter was the first outbreak of the war and it was CSA against USA. After that USA withdrew a lot of forces from CSA, and was attacked some more. The USA was pushed far back and it's furthest back was Gettysburg, PA.

[jkilts]

I haven't heard of that British ship, but it's believable. USA had an Anaconda Plan where one of it's three parts was to cut off it's supplies from foreign countries and any ship from any country bringing in supplies was doing so at it's own risk. Britain supported the South for the beginning of the war because it appeared that they would win, and then Britain went with the North after Gettysburg when the North's victory was inevitable.

[jkilts]

And finally, who do we thank for freeing the slaves? John Brown was an abolitionist who attacked a munitions supply at Harper's Ferry to help bring slavery to people's attention. By 'the woman who wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin' you mean Harriet Beecher Stowe (I think). Her book was read by Lincoln (In fact he met her after the war and said "So you're the little lady who started all this").

[jkilts]

He was influenced by the book and it brought slavery to the common Northerner's attention. She got more supporters for abolishment, but the act was thanks to Lincoln right after the Battle of Antietam. You can definitely thank John Brown and H.B. Stowe for freeing them, and they deserve it, but you better give Lincoln credit too.

[ockteby]

Good Job, Tom. I give you an A+

[jkilts]

Yay!

[ockteby]

I wish I had more hindsight than I do foresight, then I could pick a leader. That said, history has proven some had foresight. I can remember my mother crying when they announced Franklin D Roosevelt had passed away.

[TwoSevenDeuce]

How sad it is that this country can no longer produce such a leader as this great man, for in modern American long before a man becomes such a leader, he is "broken and then cast aside."

Today, TR would be adjudged mentally ill, violent, a war monger, racist, etc, etc, etc. Yes the Lion is truly dead and such as he will never rise again.

[ockteby]

Sad but true. Thanks for your reply.

[valgagrad]

Present-day Republican Party, with its Cheneys, DeLays, and camp followers such as Rove and Coulter, would do well to heed his words.

[thatbamma]

How is it this guy isn't listed among the greats? I know he's on Mt. Rushmore and all, but I never hear any of my contemporaries bring up the path he put the US on. I remember him everytime I visit a Nat. Park or Nat. Military Site

[ockteby]

I believe he had one of the highest IQ's of any US President.

[alphawolfer61]

Maybe you need some other contemparies.

[PragueVlogg]

My favorite quote:

"The leader, for the time being, whoever he may be, is but an instrument to be used until broken and then to be cast aside."

[ockteby]

TRUE -- Even Gaius Julius Caesar

[Tahllulah]

Very interesting. -cindy