What a fucking foolish piece of shit. A novelty such as the magnetic ring safety that could be placed on K frames in the late 70s early 80s. All that flash and he doesn't even carry a Mont Blanc pen
@jkiang Many things are designed in such a way that they have "too many features." This is can be a good thing, because people that don't care for those features simply won't use them and people that do find a use for them will be able to apply them.
I'm sure they were simply designing the "gun safe" feature of the holster and said "hey, if we market it with a rod with a ring on it people can use it as a safety pin like a grenade or something." It's essentially creating a market.
the idea of carrying a weapon (in my mind) is that it is as ready as can be up to when you need it, you shouldnt have to load, or cycle it before youre ready to fire. ie: many police agencies have switched to glock since they dont have a manual safety.... having to rack a pistol in a self defense setting is ridiculous.
@kamidrummer What does manual safety have to do with carrying with an empty chamber? If anything, manual safety makes carrying with a loaded chamber better because it's more secure.
empty chamber carry is as useful as no gun carry. manual safeties aren't "more secure" they add another step to a process that your life may depend on. why carry? in case you have to use deadly force right? well... deadly force situation = stress = increase in heart rate = extremely diminished fine and complex motor skills = not being able to operate manual safeties and overly complex B.S. holsters. this holster is cool for hollywood and maybe airsoft kids
@kamidrummer There's no automatic that you've ever had to rack when you draw, safety or no, and police agencies do not use glocks because they don't have safeties. Your post is false.
You're right that stress reduces your motor skills, but that is why you train. You drill until everything is second nature and you don't have to think about it. Safety deactivation is incorporated into your draw, and is simply positioning the thumb so it brushes over the switch. This rig is easy to learn, too.
@Makingnewnamesisdumb police agencies don't use glocks?? hmmm.... thats interesting, maybe in mexico? but where im from they do often use glocks, i never said all police agencies do, but it seems to be more common than seldom. my main point is that this holster is next to useless. it is probably over priced, and it solves a problem that never existed. in the firearms training i have had... gun needs to always be as ready as possible, and very few steps between holstered and shots on target
@Makingnewnamesisdumb police -DONT- use glocks.... lol. have you ever left your xbox, and gone outside to find out? i have a feeling youre more of the hollywood/tacticool type of gun person... not the realistic/trained type
@kamidrummer You should have known what I meant. I'd have been more explicit, but youtube has limits.
I was trying to say the reason most police carry Glocks (and something like 70% of them do) has nothing to do with not having manual safety measures or even being "the best" as many would say. Glocks are just a balance of cheap, reliable, available in a wide variety of calibers and simplified to the point where any moron can clean and maintain one.
@kamidrummer You should have known what I meant. I'd have been more explicit, but youtube has limits.
I was trying to say the reason most police carry Glocks (and something like 70% of them do) has nothing to do with not having manual safety measures or even being "the best" as many would say. Glocks are just a balance of cheap, reliable, available in a wide variety of calibers and simplified to the point where any moron can clean and maintain one.
@kamidrummer You should have known what I meant. I'd have been more explicit, but youtube has limits.
I was trying to say the reason most police carry Glocks (and something like 70% of them do) has nothing to do with not having manual safety measures or even being "the best" as many would say. Glocks are just a balance of cheap, reliable, available in a wide variety of calibers and simplified to the point where any moron can clean and maintain one.
@kamidrummer actually the Glock is used by 600+ police departments and sheriff's departments across the US... Not all departments use them but they do. I don't know what they use in your area but where i am the sheriffs here use them, the metro uses them and a few police departments around here use the SW M&P. I don't like glocks personally I prefer my M&P and my soon to be Walther ppq.
Not a vary effective system! I don't like having to go threw a three step process to draw my pistol. Access to me is more important than weapons retention. The last thing I want is to be half drawn with someone slamming into me.
I will stick with my thumb break Bianchi and practice not shooting myself! RoboCop can wear what ever he wants!
I stood at the table and watched this guy for about 15 minutes and still fail to see any need for something like this. Just my opinion, but that things is a death trap waiting to catch someone. I was a LEO for 14 years and I can't even conceive of carrying a weapon with an empty chamber.
When I drew my weapon (S&W 659) the hammer was down and finger was on the frame. Hell, this things COCKS the weapon which brings you much closer to an AD. I wouldn't have one of those things as a gift.
I don't like it at all. It is HUGE for one thing, as people have already mentioned. A second thing, is I think that loading a pistol as you draw it is nonsense. Third, the option to draw without loading it takes the gun out of battery as you draw it, and depends on the gun itself to put itself back into battery. What happens if this doesn't occur? You get a gun that wont fire without a tap/rack.
I tend to agree; though the gun is taken out of battery by the slide being pushed back slightly, which the return spring should easily take care of after drawing, depending on a mechanical device is never the best idea. I also commented to the salesman (the same one shown in the video) that it would take a fair amount of training to get the muscle memory down in order to draw in a high-stress environment, given the back / downward vs. up / forward movement. Not a fan of going the wrong way.
I saw this holster at the same show as evidenced in the video. For the FLASH (non-autoloading LE/M version), the price was quoted at $210. This is MSRP as far as I know. Did not inquire as to the cost of the LASH (autoloading version) given that I agree with astralisdustin; loading a weapon as one draws (from my POV as an LEO) seems to be a very poor idea, especially considering the fact that both versions would seem to prevent, to a large degree, accidental discharges.
What a fucking foolish piece of shit. A novelty such as the magnetic ring safety that could be placed on K frames in the late 70s early 80s. All that flash and he doesn't even carry a Mont Blanc pen
docwondernuts 8 months ago
that's cool,
I can't bring myself to not have the firearm without a round in battery. The second one.... hmmm, maybe getting myself a robocop leg :D
XGCScrappy 8 months ago
This is a great idea for the Israelis. They can't legally walk with a round chambered, even the LEO and .mil have to keep the chamber empty.
darkminstrel 8 months ago
What a terrible idea. If you're not familiar enough with your weapon to carry in condition 1, then you shouldn't be carrying.
scrappymarcel101 8 months ago
Let me show you how I point the gun at myself and the cameraman while I load and unload the gun.
jhlewis10 8 months ago
but will it blend?
masteircheef 10 months ago
This holster is so stupid.
hmcontractservices 11 months ago 2
This looks good for Law Enforcement...
MrCker 11 months ago
LOL "If you are carrying a pistol and you don't in any condition for you to use it"
Why carry a pistol.... these holsters are just a bit too much.
jkiang 1 year ago 3
@jkiang Many things are designed in such a way that they have "too many features." This is can be a good thing, because people that don't care for those features simply won't use them and people that do find a use for them will be able to apply them.
I'm sure they were simply designing the "gun safe" feature of the holster and said "hey, if we market it with a rod with a ring on it people can use it as a safety pin like a grenade or something." It's essentially creating a market.
Makingnewnamesisdumb 9 months ago
the idea of carrying a weapon (in my mind) is that it is as ready as can be up to when you need it, you shouldnt have to load, or cycle it before youre ready to fire. ie: many police agencies have switched to glock since they dont have a manual safety.... having to rack a pistol in a self defense setting is ridiculous.
kamidrummer 1 year ago
@kamidrummer What does manual safety have to do with carrying with an empty chamber? If anything, manual safety makes carrying with a loaded chamber better because it's more secure.
Makingnewnamesisdumb 9 months ago
empty chamber carry is as useful as no gun carry. manual safeties aren't "more secure" they add another step to a process that your life may depend on. why carry? in case you have to use deadly force right? well... deadly force situation = stress = increase in heart rate = extremely diminished fine and complex motor skills = not being able to operate manual safeties and overly complex B.S. holsters. this holster is cool for hollywood and maybe airsoft kids
kamidrummer 9 months ago
@kamidrummer There's no automatic that you've ever had to rack when you draw, safety or no, and police agencies do not use glocks because they don't have safeties. Your post is false.
You're right that stress reduces your motor skills, but that is why you train. You drill until everything is second nature and you don't have to think about it. Safety deactivation is incorporated into your draw, and is simply positioning the thumb so it brushes over the switch. This rig is easy to learn, too.
Makingnewnamesisdumb 9 months ago
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kamidrummer 8 months ago
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@Makingnewnamesisdumb police agencies don't use glocks?? hmmm.... thats interesting, maybe in mexico? but where im from they do often use glocks, i never said all police agencies do, but it seems to be more common than seldom. my main point is that this holster is next to useless. it is probably over priced, and it solves a problem that never existed. in the firearms training i have had... gun needs to always be as ready as possible, and very few steps between holstered and shots on target
kamidrummer 8 months ago
@Makingnewnamesisdumb police -DONT- use glocks.... lol. have you ever left your xbox, and gone outside to find out? i have a feeling youre more of the hollywood/tacticool type of gun person... not the realistic/trained type
kamidrummer 8 months ago
@kamidrummer You should have known what I meant. I'd have been more explicit, but youtube has limits.
I was trying to say the reason most police carry Glocks (and something like 70% of them do) has nothing to do with not having manual safety measures or even being "the best" as many would say. Glocks are just a balance of cheap, reliable, available in a wide variety of calibers and simplified to the point where any moron can clean and maintain one.
So move to your next counterpoint.
Makingnewnamesisdumb 8 months ago
@kamidrummer You should have known what I meant. I'd have been more explicit, but youtube has limits.
I was trying to say the reason most police carry Glocks (and something like 70% of them do) has nothing to do with not having manual safety measures or even being "the best" as many would say. Glocks are just a balance of cheap, reliable, available in a wide variety of calibers and simplified to the point where any moron can clean and maintain one.
So move to your next counterpoint.
Makingnewnamesisdumb 8 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@kamidrummer You should have known what I meant. I'd have been more explicit, but youtube has limits.
I was trying to say the reason most police carry Glocks (and something like 70% of them do) has nothing to do with not having manual safety measures or even being "the best" as many would say. Glocks are just a balance of cheap, reliable, available in a wide variety of calibers and simplified to the point where any moron can clean and maintain one.
So move to your next counterpoint.
Makingnewnamesisdumb 8 months ago
@kamidrummer actually the Glock is used by 600+ police departments and sheriff's departments across the US... Not all departments use them but they do. I don't know what they use in your area but where i am the sheriffs here use them, the metro uses them and a few police departments around here use the SW M&P. I don't like glocks personally I prefer my M&P and my soon to be Walther ppq.
GrenMoyo 2 months ago
When pulling the gun out of the holster, is the guns saftey on????
tock101 1 year ago
why don't the Australian police forces use this type of holster and gun?
so many police have been shot with their own weapons...
this is a fantastic idea?
Is this man just an exhibitionist or is he a police officer or soldier?
pozzebon 1 year ago
that guys a pimp he gots gold and carrys a gun
DRUMMERNIGGA 1 year ago
What a silly holster.
Ishpeck 1 year ago
Not a vary effective system! I don't like having to go threw a three step process to draw my pistol. Access to me is more important than weapons retention. The last thing I want is to be half drawn with someone slamming into me.
I will stick with my thumb break Bianchi and practice not shooting myself! RoboCop can wear what ever he wants!
shortwavecolt 1 year ago
The first one looks really awesome.
bklynzbest777 2 years ago
He stole that from robo cops leg..
Casper48022 2 years ago 5
LOL
GunWebsites 2 years ago
The man who is explaining everything is my dad. He is a very smart man, you can also try to contact me if you want a holster.
Scrapzoneofdoom 2 years ago
OoOoO
bklynzbest777 2 years ago
id love one of em holsters for a movie prop lol
mysteriosupafan 2 years ago
does this work for any other gun
TheAirsoftbeast22 2 years ago
I am not sure
GunWebsites 2 years ago
I stood at the table and watched this guy for about 15 minutes and still fail to see any need for something like this. Just my opinion, but that things is a death trap waiting to catch someone. I was a LEO for 14 years and I can't even conceive of carrying a weapon with an empty chamber.
When I drew my weapon (S&W 659) the hammer was down and finger was on the frame. Hell, this things COCKS the weapon which brings you much closer to an AD. I wouldn't have one of those things as a gift.
rickd248 2 years ago
I don't like it at all. It is HUGE for one thing, as people have already mentioned. A second thing, is I think that loading a pistol as you draw it is nonsense. Third, the option to draw without loading it takes the gun out of battery as you draw it, and depends on the gun itself to put itself back into battery. What happens if this doesn't occur? You get a gun that wont fire without a tap/rack.
astralisdustin 2 years ago
I tend to agree; though the gun is taken out of battery by the slide being pushed back slightly, which the return spring should easily take care of after drawing, depending on a mechanical device is never the best idea. I also commented to the salesman (the same one shown in the video) that it would take a fair amount of training to get the muscle memory down in order to draw in a high-stress environment, given the back / downward vs. up / forward movement. Not a fan of going the wrong way.
Soontobeusbp 2 years ago
what is the price for this holster?
GhostStan 2 years ago
?? Their website says "PLEASE CALL, FAX OR E-MAIL FOR PRICING AND AVAILABILITY"
I'll ask if the cameraman saw the price
GunWebsites 2 years ago
I saw this holster at the same show as evidenced in the video. For the FLASH (non-autoloading LE/M version), the price was quoted at $210. This is MSRP as far as I know. Did not inquire as to the cost of the LASH (autoloading version) given that I agree with astralisdustin; loading a weapon as one draws (from my POV as an LEO) seems to be a very poor idea, especially considering the fact that both versions would seem to prevent, to a large degree, accidental discharges.
Soontobeusbp 2 years ago