FARRAKHAN VS. ELIJAH Richmond, Va. Pt 2

[ThetruthisTHEvirtue]

Minister Farrakhan is a hypocrite. He's been caught lying (divine men don't lie), he's been caught in night clubs(fratenizing with the dead), he has denounced MFM(watch interview with WDM) his son is married to a devil and is still in good standing, he called L Ron Hubbard divine(read MTTBM sec. on the devil) this man isn't divine and he most certainly DOES NOT rep MEM!

[Originalman320]

@ShaAllah7 ....the West Coast Captain grumbled when Min. Farrakhan had them submit to a search at Huey Newton's house. The Hon. Elijah Muhammad called him to Chicago. He said in words "here you are, second ONLY TO MYSELF wearing out your knees for the likes of something like that neuter gender panther". He told Min. Farrakhan don't go to them, make them come to him. All of the national laborers were present. After the meeting, he said to Min. Farrakhan "I know why you did it brother".

[Originalman320]

@ShaAllah7 By the way, it was JULY 30, 1972. In 1964, he was on a higher level in wisdom, and insight than in 1934. As for Malcolm, he did see signs of his deviation even before he actually did it. Besides, just because it wasn't recorded, or printed, doesn't mean he didn't say it, and it's no less valid. He told Min. Farrakhan that he was second only to himself at a meeting in response to his (Min. Farrakhan's) visit with Huey Newton of the Panthers...

[Originalman320]

@ShaAllah7 I mean physically he's still alive. I don't care what they say they saw in a casket. Read the Holy Qur'an 4:157.

[Originalman320]

The Hon. Elijah Muhammad said Min. Farrakhan was second ONLY to himself. You need to shut up.

[Originalman320]

By the way, Min. Farrakhan wouldn't be a successor, since the Hon. Elijah Muhammad is not dead.

[code187G]

You say all of this but answer this why didnt the messenger choose any of his other ministers

[Icanseeu123able]

NOI can be violent for no reason. Most reps are arogant as this man is. I went to a mosque when I was younger and they tried to make me be scared and be submissive to them. What they did was almost start some big shit that would have been on the news. Anyway, I am not a muslim but Farrhan has done a lot for Blacks. More than this idiot and I mean idiot. This man needs to be supervised like a three year old.

[66westworld]

Who is this Minister disrespecting another fellow muslim? This poor young man is led to believe that Minister Farrakhan is the enemy where in fact the Minister Farrakhan is trying continue Elijahs work inshalah. So when elijah muhammed died the nation of islam was suppose to stop? I say nay. People take words and believe what they want to believe, This young man preaching hate towards Farrakhan is a angry and confused young man may allah rechannel hisenergy and help this upset muslim

[66westworld]

Who is this Minister disrespecting another fellow muslim? This poor young man is led to believe that Minister Farrakhan is the enemy where in fact the Minister Farrakhan is trying continue Elijahs work inshalah. So when elijah muhammed died the nation of islam was suppose to stop? I say nay. People take words and believe what they want to believe, This young man preaching hate towards Farrakhan is a angry and confused young man may allah rechannel hisenergy and help this upset man teaching hate

[antoinelamond]

I wish he would live stream some of his meetings. That would help you all out a lot.

[kenwill123]

Read the Holy Quran brother, a lot of your questions would be answered. 1974 not 1972. Brother did the Messenger give you any orders? NO! He still is labeled as being National Representative. Who bought the Nation back from nothing after Wallace disbanded it. Shouldn't you come against Wallace and NOT the Minister. Brother, you to me is lost and confused with a bow-tie on. Leave the Minister alone brother and fight our open enemy. The whiteman.

[Abdullah1475]

Has farrakhan responded to this in any way?

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

@Abdullah1475 No. he has not to my knowledge. He can not afford to do so and by doing so risk his popularity giving legitimacy to the Minister speaking here. He has to pretend this Minister is so insignificant he does not even know he exists and is to unworthy to address.

[code187G]

@MUHAMMADTEMPLE15 But if this is so then he could have said this about ALL his ministers in the theology of time because everyone appointed minister would have had to be a baring witness of his teachings what is he gonna say oh don't really listen to my minister in Oakland because he doesn't really bare witness to me. If there is no significance in him being the National Representative then the praises was pointless if what your saying is true than he should have Praised ALL his ministers

[Originalman320]

@MUHAMMADTEMPLE15 You are in fact insignificant. You are unworthy to shine Min. Farrakhan's run over shoes that he wore when he was over Boston. What a cheap Khallid imitation.

[Emassenbur]

@MUHAMMADTEMPLE15 ASA........POPULARITY???? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? THE MINISTER IS DEALING WITH DEVILS IN THE GOVERNMENT AND IN DEVILS WHO ARE OUT FOR WORLD DOMINATION, HE HAS NO TIME TO DEAL WITH RUMORS AND LIES THAT ARE UN-TRUE AND UN-DESERVING OF ATTENTION. MATCH HIS WORK!

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

@Emassenbur Farrakhan has sold out to the government. His study guides are named after the program of the government to destroy The Nation. The government said they wanted to steer The Nation away from Black Nationalism towards "Self Improvement." Farrakhan named his Study guides "Self Improvement" and says Separation/Black Nationalism is a "LAST RESORT." I should be asking you if YOU are serious! Let Farrakhan MATCH ELIJAH MUHAMMAD'S WORK! This aint Farrakhan VS Eric. It's Farrakhan VS. Elijah!

[Emassenbur]

@MUHAMMADTEMPLE15 WHAT KIND OF OKIE POKE B.S IS THAT??? "HIS STUDY GUIDES ARE NAMED AFTER THE PROGRAM OF THE GOVERNMENT TO DESTROY THE NATION"....STOP LYING! DOES NOT EVERY HUMAN BEING NEED SELF IMPROVEMENT????? DO YOU NOT TO IMPROVE IN SOMETHING? DO I NOT TO??? THAT ISN'T DESTROYING THE NATION! AND WE'RE DEFINITLY INTUNED WITH BLACK NATIONALISM WHICH IS WHY A LOT OF MEMBERS, LIKE MYSELF ARE IN THE NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY UNDER MALIK ZULU SHABAZZ! WE NEVER LET GO OF OUR BLACK NATIONALISM!

[Emassenbur]

Respond to this video... FARRAKHAN IS TRYING TO MATCH ELIJAH...WHICH IS WHY HE IS "POPULAR" JUST AS THE MOST HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD WAS WELL KNOWNED AND "POPULAR" IN THE 60'S AND 70'S! HIS POPULARITY IS HUGE BECAUSE HIS WORKS ARE GOOD! HE GOES FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY AND IS ACCEPTED JUST LIKE THE MESSENGER WAS BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH ON THEIR POST!!! DON'T BE MAD CAUSE THE NAMES OF SILIS MUHAMMAD OR ROYALL JENKINS AREN'T MAKING ANY NOISE!! OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT DOING NO WORK!!!!

[Emassenbur]

@MUHAMMADTEMPLE15 TOO MUCH ATTENTION IS BEING FOCUSED ON FARRAKHAN AND NOT ENOUGH IS BEING FOCUSED ON THE MASSES!!! HOW IS THIS LECTURE IN PARTICULAR GOING TO GET DRUGS OFF THE STREETS, GIVE PEOPLE HOMES, STOP THE MURDER RATE, EDUCATE THE YOUTH....IT'S NOT! STOP BASHING AND DO SOMETHING! ROYALL AND SILIS NAMES AREN'T AS "POPULAR" AS YOU WOULD LIKE OR YOU ALL AREN'T FULLING UP CONVENTION CENTERS AND FOOTBALL STADIUMS LIKE THE MESSENGER AND THE MINISTER BECAUSE YALL AREN'T DOING ANYTHING!!!!!!

[Emassenbur]

@MUHAMMADTEMPLE15 JUST FACE IT! YOU'RE RIGHT...IT'S NOT FARRAKHAN VS. ERIC, NOR FARRAKHAN VS. ELIJAH, BUT FARRAKHAN AND ELIJAH VS. THE UNITED FOUND NATION OF ISLAM AND THE LOST FOUND NATION OF ISLAM!!! WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M OUT...ASA! BLACK POWER! WUCUSU(WAKE UP, CLEAN UP AND STAND UP)

[kenwill123]

@Abdullah1475 He should not have to respond to this. He has enough by his works to dispell this brothers weirdness. He doesn't make any sense. The messenger is NOT present with us, only through the wisdom of the Minister. Come on, no way he should even entertain this brother, he is but a child. Could he go around the world to represent us? HELL NO! This man should be asking Allah for forgiveness.

[nastogod]

royall Allah in person is running the nation of islam!

[MrKs47]

Obviously these brothers have no works of their own. Childish.

[tphoyas]

Wow...to see a brother reply to comments the way you do...why even bother if you gotta get all hostile? When you know the truth you just....chill. And the language ain't becoming of a Muslim either, Brother. Assuming you ARE a Muslim....Representing C.R.O.E. out of Chicago....

[thrownurfrom]

watch "Farrakhan is a hypocrite" just as I spelled it here, and listen to Farrakhan denounce the messenger Elijah muhammad and ALLAH in person Fard Muhammad in one sentence.

[nubiagold]

thrownurfrom, Minister Farrakhan was stating his belief in Master Fard Muhammad in his infancy in the teachings, I didn't fully understand that when I first registered. I just studied and listened to brothers, and then I understood...that's not unusual to love a thing and learn more about it as time goes on. He has it now brother.

[MrKs47]

@thrownurfrom So what is your solution to this problem fella?

[nubiagold]

It really is a shame to hear a brother talk like this. I loved Khalid also but he failed to follow the instructions of the minister. Minister Farrakhan always told the brothers to look out for Khalid. Find your way back brothers.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

What's really a shame is to hear a bastard like Farrakhan talk like he talks.

[nubiagold]

The only bastard here is you, are you going to forever preach on your dislike of Minister Farrakhan, or help in the raising of the dead? Minister Farrakhan is continuing the work of the Messenger and doesn't spend time spewing venom at the so called followers of the Messenger.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

A bastard is an illegitimate child. That's all. Farrakhan fits the description. I don't. I can't be illegit by sticking to The Messenger's teaching and program. Farrakhan can't be legit by changing them.

There is no like or dislike of Farrakhan. Where do you get the idea no dead are being raised here? Be specific and site your sources.

Farrakhan is not carrying on the work of The Messenger. Quit lying for that bastard!!!...

[nubiagold]

MT15, Minister Farrakhan hardly needs me to fight his battles for him. You are the bastard on you tube whining about, he don't teach this right, he don't teach that right. you probably were kicked out of the boy scouts when you were little, and just havn't gotten over it yet.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

Then stop fighting them!

Whining? Then why are you responding to that which is only "whining?"

Whus wit da bitchy lil comments? You think they'll make me mad or sumuhm? LOL!

Trust me... they won't.

[nubiagold]

Brother, comments are what you do on these sites. Some people agree with you, some people don't. I love the Minister, I don't see any changing of the teachings. We just had a believers meeting this past week where Minister Ishmael taught on the believers continuing the mission of the Messenger. I will argue in the best manner with anyone.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

I didn't say "comments." I said "bitchy lil comments" designed to make me mad. I was right in what I said and I believe you know it.

You "REFUSE TO SEE" the many changes Farrakhan has made to the teachings.

The Messenger "TEACHES" to fast in December and "NOT TO FAST" with the Orthodox Muslims. He "TEACHES" "NOT TO FAST" in honor of the Quran being revealed. That's the whole reason the Ramadan fast is all about. The Messenger said their fast has a different meaning than ours...

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

...He explained the two different meanings. Farrakhan says we should fast with them and not December. He lies and claims The Messenger chose December for the shortness of the days. THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE and he knows it! Please find where The Messenger taught this! You can't! He didn't! Period!

But you Farrakhanites are so stuck up his hypocrite azz that you just REFUSE TO SEE" even this very plain example of him changing the teaching.

[nubiagold]

MT15, the Messenger did teach to fast in December because of the shortness of the days, and to come out of the commercialization of that christmas season. Fasting with the orthodox world is a natural progression in this day. We in the NOI are not Farrakhan's, but followers of Allah through his Messenger, Elijah Muhammad.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

The Messenger DID NOT teach to fast in December for no shortness of the days! Prove it!!! Where did he ever teach this? Site your source and be specific you damned liar! You only believe this because you trust Farrakhan's lyin azz blindly!!! GIVE IT TO ME FROM THE MESSENGER DIRECTLY!!!

I'm waiting.....

[nubiagold]

MT15, Minister Farrakhan doesn't lie, he only speaks the truth. You are not privy to everything that was said brother. The Messenger didn't teach you, he taught Farrakhan. You can find it in How to Eat to live. Man, you get so hostile.

[mightylionzman]

@nubiagold .........this is a lie''shortness of days'' the MESSENGER ........NEVER SAID FAST,CAUSE OF NO SHORTNESS OF DAYS,in'' how to eat to live'' there is a chapter,called WHY WE FAST IN DECEMBER,''natural progression in this day''...wow,natural progression means having internet and fax machines.not following ARABS.

[nubiagold]

@mightylionzman, OK with me Brother, I don't want to argue with Brothers who love Elijah Muhammad as much as I do, I just happen to love Farrakhan just as much. The Messenger said, "when you see him look at him, where he says stay from, stay from...etc".

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

...He has long ago abandoned The Messenger's guidance for Orthodox Islamic precepts.

Where did you get the venom you followers of Farrakhan spew at us? If you didn't get it from him, you aint following him! So shut the hell up about him! If you did, and you most certainly did, quit lying about him not spewing it! He gives it to you and then you run with it and he hides his filthy hands and pretends to be so high above it.

[MGTMuhammad]

He sounds like a paid agent trying to use a divide & conquer tactic to seperate the masses of our people from joining onto their own. The Qur'an says "man plans, and Allah plans, and Allah is the best of Planners". Allah will take you off this planet Bro. Eric going against Farrakhan. Rise above your emotions in the thinking of God & just following orders when there given. THEM gave us direct instructions before he departed to follow Farrakhan & he is wise enough to know who is best Judas!!!

[MGTMuhammad]

I agree with Nate Naazir, this brother is jealous of Farrakhan and it is obvious. Just like Khalid did and Farrakhan outlived Khalid & Warith Deen. Just like Nas said "THEY DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO STOP LOUIS FARRAKHAN"...ACCEPT IT! Allah has allowed Farrakhan to be successful. If he was a liar, Allah would have destroyed him by now like he did the others who deviated. Make a name for yourself without having to bash another man....shows your true character Black Man...damn Judas.

[natenaazir]

1974 saviors day H.E.M brought Farrakahn before the nation and said " when you see him look at him, when you hear him listen, where he says go go where he says stay away from stay away from" except it bro . If you have another agenda do your thing you dont have to talk about another man do your thing. the mere fact that you are talking about him makes him greater than you do you bro whats your purpose in life do something bring something in to existence show and prove enough wit the lip serv

[khan195khan]

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[isavakoya]

peace! The honorable Elijah Muhammad turnes 112 this year. that is the unity in the Holy Quran! That means 36 years ago he turned 76 when the fall of america was written! I love this teachin' and F.0.I all over suffer and sacficed.M.G.T all over suffer and sacrificed. Black people!!!So-called negroes!!!Whats really going on black people????Is America Falling????

[KARASUNSTAR]

the leader of the noi should be the most high. men in flesh & pretty garments are not to replace the most high & the supreme plan. adhere to the most highs plan for our ppl, that is the uniting factor. the plan, & the work & action to manifest the plan

[returnofthemega]

"He was exiled from Louis Farrakhan's organization in May of 1996 for refusing Louis Farrakhan's order to disassociate himself from Minister Khallid Abdul Muhammad."

Hey that was an order, you as an FOI should've carried it out. You left the NOI instead and eventually started to teach again at a solo temple? You teach unity among black people there? lol

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

Hey that was bullisht!!! That's what is was! Khallid was not in "F class." A man who is not in "F Class" can't be ordered to be stayed away from dumbell!!! According to the restricted laws of The Nation of Islam, Eric Muhammad was 100% right not to obey that bullisht order from that bullisht bastard that gave the god damned order!!!

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

Eric Muhammad will be teaching unity among Black people at another Temple in your damned town on May 3, 2009. Other Ministers from other Temples will also be there. That's "UNITY" smart azz!!! Still laughing? Huh? I can't hear ya!!!

[dscottn101]

Brotha, I understand what your saying, but what this guy is doing is turning followers away from NOI. By the way, I am a true fan of Honorable Khalid Abdul Muhammed, notice how Khalid didn't put down the NOI when he was removed and joined the Black Panthers, Khalid didn't hate on his brothas. This guy Eric is turning followers away from Farrahkan under the pretense that Farrahkan is not following Eligah teachings.

[1hotandsmartman]

Brother he is simply speaking truth, Minister Farrakhan claims that Allah called him to do what he is doing, so if that's true then the Hon. Elijah Muhammad would have to be a lie, because his teachings given to him by Allah has been altered. I to respect Khalid but his emotions affected his judgment. Minister Farrakhan admitted many times he fell from grace, on the Shabazz show, he's being followed because he is a great speaker! Don't follow a man because of his speech but only for the truth!

[TheAsiatic1]

To Eric Muhammad...>>>

If all of this is true, then why were you a member of The Nation of Islam with Minister Farrakhan for 13 years????

Please explain....Did it take you 13 long years to figure this out????

Peace

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

Figure out what? That's a dumb question. I never fiugured out that Christianity was a false religion made to enslave The Blackman. I never would have figured it out. I had to be taught it. I was taught that which you are asking me about figuring out. When I have been taught the truth, I have simply accepted it. I aint never figured nothin. Duuuhhhh!!!

[TheAsiatic1]

There is no comparison with Eric Muhammad and Farrakhan...Minister Farrakhan has been all over the world Teaching and uplifting The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

But we can compare Nuri Muhammad who is a Student Minister under Minister Farrakhan to Eric.

Place "Nuri Muhammad" in your browser, and you will learn a lot more about "The Teachings" than from this disgruntled, unhappy, broken hearted little minister!!!

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

There's no comparison with Elijah Muhammad and Farrakhan either. Place Elijah Muhammad in your browser and really learn about the teachings!

[TheAsiatic1]

Eric: You are THE POOREST Example of a Minister that I have ever heard!!!!

You are a terrible Teacher/Minister.....

Please Do Not quit your day job!!!!

[BlacksAreBeautiful]

I find it interesting that all of the Pro Farrakhan, Anti Eric Muhammad comments posted, none are actually dealing with what this brother has said. I would like to hear someone, anyone deal with what this brother is saying, and expose it as a lie..........if you can!!

[AXCZXC]

My dear brother, the Quran and Bible are not a lie, however many Muslims and Christians take a different perspective of the word, some will murder for the word and claim the book justifies this,and others well fight for peace. What ever is in your heart will be reproduced in your speech, the question is what is in our heart. May Allah guide us all to a higher level - if not study the Black President a sign of the level we all should be striving for. (Intelligence)

[BlacksAreBeautiful]

I'm not sure what this is a reply to but I will say this about your Obama comment.....there have been many intelligent people in the past going down the wrong path, so we need to couple intelligence with wisdom...Wisdom allows one to use that intelligence to do right by your people and not be used to further exploit them. The most intelligent man i have ever known was the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad, therefore I don't need anyone else to strive towards, he is sufficient.

[AXCZXC]

We agree dear Brother! THEM (is) wise beyond our imagination, creative mental ability. We are intelligent if we recognise our unity rather than divisions. Peace and Light.

[ACelloFella]

Interesting that if he this brother came in the NOI in 1983, this means that is was Min. Farrahkhan leading him to the teachings of the Hon. Elijah Muhammad.

[trulife01]

Dear Brother,

You are playing right into the White Man's trap of "Divide and Conquer." Stop it now! I am warning you dear brother. Our brother Farrakhan is a mercy for America to correct her sins. He certainly has to adjust the message of Elijah in order to fit into the times that we are living in. Delivery of the message of God requires effective communication. He has mastered that art! Follow his example!.......

[BlacksAreBeautiful]

Adjust the message?????? NO SIR...the way you may deliver it may change, but the Message SHOULD NEVER change!!!!

You better do a little more studying my brother!

[AXCZXC]

Sounds like your trying to be a Dr Khalid Muhammad, try and be yourself I'm sure you have a lot to offer. Most intelligent Black people don't go in for silly things such as my father is better than yours, it shows a lack of maturity. The NOI is moving forward at a fast pace please try and keep up, may Allah continue to guide your heart to say and do what is in the interest of our people. Peace and Light

[Sista81]

Min. Eric Muhammad makes more sense than any other Nation of Islam ministers I've heard, including Min. Farrakhan. This brotha is direct and straight to the point.

[blackdog1083]

sista81. Min. Eric can never be on the level as The Hon. Min. Farrakhan. Please go an study the Min. Farrakhan in depth. Peace My sista!

[brainnee1]

this is another hypocrite who wil fall to the waste side.poor brother came in the rates in 83 does not understand the moves of a wise farrakhan

[1luvabove]

Fake ass Khalid Muhammad!

[angelmurray5]

This is why Black people can not move on and become who Allah God want us to become. You are not helping you need help and should stop. Minister Farrakhan is not being other than himself. You are and Allah will do with you what is due for your actions. There are so much going on on this planet and so many other things that you could be teaching our people.

[mindelevationgod]

If T.H.E.M. chose M.L.F. as national rep for a reason. Min. Farrakhan does not say he is the Leader of the NOI. It is people that say that of him. Stop creating division.

[kieljones2008]

this is the dumbest black baldheaded fool i have ever heard. he is ignorant and no one should support this mess.

[ATOM09]

LOL, you know you wrong, hahahaha! kieljones.

[TheAsiatic1]

I agree with you totally.

But the funny thing is; he was a member of The Nation under Minister Farrakhan for 13 years!! 13 years!!...13

Then he was kicked out of The Nation for supporting Khalid Muhammad.

Minister Farrakhan gave him the name Muhammad.

So he's dis-crediting the Man that named him.

Plain Stupid!!

[blksoljaa]

There is alot that I want to say in response to that video you sent me titled (islam 101 the true religion),but I'll just say this, you SHOULD LOVE The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, because he is the only thing standing between me taking you and sawing your god damn traitorous head off with the dullest blade I can find, Hore. Dont ever E-mail me.

[TheAsiatic1]

Teach....Teach!!!!

[Muslimprincess79]

Teach...Teach??? Teach what? This is nonsense... This is not Islam... I wish they would stop using my Lord's name in Vain they are not Muslims. Islam doesn't teach you to call white people crackers. We are not to discriminate. I hope you were joking.

[TheAsiatic1]

I was responding to what blksoljaa said: "There is alot that I want to say in response to that video you sent me titled (islam 101 the true religion),but I'll just say this, you SHOULD LOVE The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan"

"you SHOULD LOVE The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan"

"you SHOULD LOVE The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan"

[Muslimprincess79]

TheAsiatic1... You are probably a nice person, but this is not Islam they are teaching falsehood. If you are interested in Islam and the way it was taught by the The last and Final Messenger/Prophet Muhammad ibn Abdullah. Then you will be guided. This is nonsense.

[TheAsiatic1]

"you SHOULD LOVE The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan"

"you SHOULD LOVE The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan"

[WattsNG]

Oh!! go and follow white folks huh? it was predicted that three generations after the Prophet would no longer be of the prophet!! Please!! So you say calling white folks crackers is soooooooo wrong? oh!! poor sista!!

[blksoljaa]

Im so happy to know that you all can see straight thru this weak fool, it shows that our faith in Allah, his Messenger and in Minister Farrakhan cannot be easily shaken which is very important for us today if were gonna make it, because as you can see the enemy is pulling all his tricks, you notice this little traitor here doesn't even have a real audience. lol. Stay strong family. FARRAKHAN!!!

[cinchroc]

you a str8 succa and i might see you over this shit ! hook ass nigga

[arthur01x]

You say because the Minister can get many to hear him he can't be the one. Well I'll ask you what about the 100's thousands the Messenger would atract? Even with an un popular message. You sound MAD to me. And you know what the Quran says of turning back. Be very careful with you words.

[arthur01x]

My brother study the history of Elijah and Malcolm. Then study the history of Farrakhan and Kahlid. Then ask youself. WHO PUT YOU IN PLACE? Name another Minister who Elijah would let speak on HIS radio in HIS place. na·tion·al-concerning or encompassing an entire nation. rep·re·sent·a·tive- standing or acting for another or others. Who else did the messeger let speak for HIM and the in this manner? Local ministers only represented him locally.Study or follow Dr. Kahlid

[bobbymarsh1]

Does he just have two people in the audience?

[bobbymarsh1]

true islam doesnt teach superiority of races. True Islam teaches tawheed. True Islam teaches that Allah is superior to his creation. The N.O.I is a falsehood! The Qur'an doesnt teach any of this. So you N.O.I's tell me why do you read quran. Even your Honorable Elijah Muhammad sent his sons to learn true Islam. So prove me wrong. This is a joke.

[muze1877]

Bismillah:

As-Salaam Alaikum:

My only complaint/question about what this brother is saying is that he says "The Most" Honorable Elijah Muhammad. I would say only Allah, Master Fard Muhammad is "THE MOST" HONORABLE. The term seems to imply that someone else is "Honorable" such as a certain "Minister" of The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's. I think "The Honorable Elijah Muhammad" or "Messenger Elijah Muhammad" is a sufficient way to address our Messenger. Holy Apostle works as well.

pt.1

[muze1877]

pt.2

I just would like to conclude my post by saying that I love what Minister Eric is teaching. I believe from what I've heard thus far to be 100% in accord with what the Holy Apostle taught. I admit I need to know more myself, but I know what Minister Farrakhan is teaching is different from what our Holy Apostle taught. I'm not here to argue. The difference is so obvious that it's not subject to debate.

Louis followers:

Debate Saviour's Day vs. Saviours' Day?

As-Salaam Alaikum.

[BengalGuerilla]

Allah is not a Man.

Allahu Akbar.

[hillary300]

very very good! may ALLAH always bless you! brother.

[angelmurray5]

Yah right, in your eyes don't put this on ALLAH

[lyoungaka]

Stop misleading those who have no inside knowledge of The Nation. We were NEVER taught that Farrakhan is the leader of N.O.I. NEVER. Thats what the white press who survives on 15sec soundbites who don't know our history and could give a damn about factual reporting dubbed him. And in a culture whose vernacular is heavy on shortened nicknames and acronyms some of us have been lazy in calling him "The Leader". But, we have always been taught we are followers of T.H.E.M.

[substaff]

I still believe in the minister Farrakhan!

Some of us blacks are worst then devils.

Wasting all your time hating a humble man.

[MUHAMMADTEMPLE15]

Wa Alaikum Salaam!

The Messenger never relieved him of said post. That's the problem. He quit the damned post! He followed Wallace D. Muhammad for three years and was Wallace's National and International Representative.

You don't get to quit your post and then re-assume it.

[TheAsiatic1]

Where do you see yourself 5 years from now?

[Ragtime4]

Asalaam alaikum!

Thank you for the response and the history lesson. One thing I don't know anything about is the process by which Wallace D. Muhammad took a leadership role in the Nation...

Did the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad ever say, though, that if one of his Ministers ever stumbled or fell down on his duty, even quitting his post, could never re-assume his post if he repented of his mistake?

[Ragtime4]

Asalaam alaikum! Brother Eric says at around 6:19 to 6:20 that Minister Farrakhan WAS the National Representative of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad... (past tense)

Understanding that brother Eric says this in the context of a past tense discussion, did the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad ever remove Minister Farrakhan from his post? Is Minister Farrakhan not the National Representative of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad today?

[TheConsciousLife]

You are getting personal little brother! and this is business not personal. See that is the problem you people were taught to fight for Islam not farrkhan he is not our religion he is just a man. Now! My father Yes, my father built a Nation, he has Three generations of Muslim contributed to him, because he stood with the Messenger. What is your father doing? did he even follow the Messenger? oh that right you are only 20-30 something. oops my bag...

[TheConsciousLife]

Let's be clear, Louis said that he was taken over the seat of the Messenger in 1985 Saviours Day Laborers Meeting, It was not given to him by the Messenger. Let's talk proper here. There is a different.He Knew he would lose a lot of backing and he did. He lost a lot of those who stood with him on rebuilding the house of Elijah. Today that NOI is everything but the house of Elijah, you cannot see anything of our Messenger and the behavior is disgraceful. The theology is not that of the Messenger.

[truthhurts2008]

Brother I respect your opinion but why Attack what Minister Farrakhan is teaching?See if you have to set up this arena Farrakhan VS. Elijah to even get a reponse from the people then you are no great leader at all in my opinion.You talk as if you knew elijah Muhammad personally.You did not get into the nation of Islam until 1981.Minister Farrakhan Knew the Messenger Elijah as a best friend for over 20 years while elijah was alive.Where is your credentials? as they say if the blind lead the blind

[BlackHistoryHitman]

"lieshurts2008" You don't have any respect, STOP LYING! But you are right when you say Minister Eric Muhammad is "no great leader". He's NOT. The ONE he follows IS a "great leader", a divine leader, a divine teacher, and a divine guide, and that IS the Last & Greatest Messenger of Allah, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

[truthhurts2008]

blackhistoryhitmanwannabe you dont even no me enough to speak for me so dont try to.If I said I respect Eric Muhammads opinion because everyone is entitled to their opinion then who the hell are you to speak for me??If Eric Muhammad followed Elijah Muhamamd he would follow his best student minister Farrkhan Muhamamd.When Jesus died the people who knew nothing of the teaching of jesus had to follow the example of peter and paul because both were diciples of Jesus.Farrakhan is a diciple of Elijah.

[BlackHistoryHitman]

It is not a requirement to have "known" Messenger Muhammad "personally" in order to follow/adhere to his teachings or be in tune with the divine principles he laid down for us. We are NOT personality worshipers like YOU ("lieshurts2008"), WE stand on principles (All Praises Due to Allah for the Honorable Elijah Muhammad).

[BlackHistoryHitman]

Wallace Muhammad is the Messenger's SON and knew his father WAAAAY more than "personally" for over 40 years, and that didn't stop him from turning hypocrite and dismantling the NOI in 1975. TALK BLACK TO ME!!!

[TheAsiatic1]

I agree totally Truth2008.

Here is What Farrakhan has produced.

Type "What is Drill?" In your browser.

You judge a Tree by The Fruit it bears!!

We can't accept an exiled/ex-communicated/ex-mini­sters' one-sided opinion on that person!!

Eric, find a new hobby!!

[TheConsciousLife]

Apparently you (Asiatic1) are new, also to the NOI, because if you were'nt then you would not be so emotional, you would just deal with what the Brother is saying. If it is true or false?.. You are new, Therefore, you do not know nothing, but what FM says, that is sad!...Truth knocks falsehood up side the head and knocks its brain out! debate, truth or falsehood brother, not personality!!! Whether you like the Brother or not,he is right on. Go back and read the teachings and find the truth.

[truthhurts2008]

I see that you like the Blackhistoryhitmanwannabe want to act like you knew the messenger personally. Why act like you know the messenger personally Eric Muhammad does the same thing. IF it was not for Farrakhan you would know nothing of elijah Muhammad so why try to discredit your teacher of the messenger?? not one of us was even alive when the messenger was alive. SO why try to act like you know better than the man who befriended the messenger personally?? That is foolish to me.

[TheConsciousLife]

If you are referring to me , then you are way off base , I was raised up when the Messenger was alive and, My father was a Captain in the days of the Messenger Temple #5. During the early and late fifties until the Messenger died physically, so your assumtion is wrong. I was there Brother...I am not a wannabe, I grow up in what you people call "the first"....If you do not know ask somebody... eace!

[truthhurts2008]

My comment was for Blackhistoryhitmanwannabe but just for the record it is one thing to be growing up during messenger Elijah Muhammad lifetime but it is another thing to have known him personally and eat with him . I mean everyday your communicating with the messenger that is a whole new conversation. I respect you sharing you personal history and dare not to blimish it but my comment was for blackhistoryhitmanwannabe.

[TheConsciousLife]

I concede to your statment Sir, However You do Know that very few people actually did communicate with the Messenger on a regular that includes FM.However from what I remember,The Messenger did travel frequently to Ohio and was very fond of the believers in Temple #5.The Nation was almost 1million strong at the time of the Messengers'death so the possiblity that any one person would have been to familiar with him is slim. May ALLAH continue to guide you to the light(Messenger)of understanding

[TheAsiatic1]

What is your father/captain doing now?

Is he still a Captain for THE NOI?

With what Mosque or Temple?

[TheConsciousLife]

My father is still a muslim...Now what about yours..Is he even a muslim? I asked you first!

[TheAsiatic1]

I asked you What is your father doing to assist The Messenger in building a nation!!

That's the question.

[TheConsciousLife]

I already answered that question , However it was not to your liking, as well as must of the info you recieved. It is not to your liking and not well recieved by you, because you reject truth, because you choose to side with the lie, and the Hypocrite. The MESSENGER said that after a year being a hypocrite you turn to straight devil. This also applies to Farrakhan.

[TheAsiatic1]

Where is The Fruit of his labor?

"What is Drill" This is Farrakhan's FRUIT!!

You can judge a Tree by The Fruit it bears!!

Where is your fruit and your fathers?

I don't have to argue with you!!

[TheConsciousLife]

Ah! well his fruit is three(3) generations of muslim from his own lion and we are still standing.Again what about your father since we are talking about family here!And farrkhans fruit of his labor,let's see one son is a dope feen,one is a wannabe pimp, his daughters, well let's see Khalidah is married to a white boy and Donna's husband is a fradgilant criminal,Besty jean is just pitiful shall I go on?

[TheConsciousLife]

Do You really think farrakhan looks at you as fruit of his labor ha! he cares only for his family and that is one thing the hypocrite does have right. Family is important. All of you are tools and fools when you leave and you should. I garantee you , you will not even be missed. Why because the game goes on...Argue you must be mistaking brother I am not doing that. I am a plain and simple warner of the judgement. Let's be clear!

[TheAsiatic1]

First of all, learn how to spell!!

You claim that you have all of this wisdom, knowledge and understanding, but you are ignorant!!

fradgilant--No, it's spelled Fraudulent!!

garantee --No, it's spelled Guarantee!!

from his own lion--No, loin!!

How can I take you serious when my 8 year old daughter can spell those words?

A grown person should not be this stupid.

[TheConsciousLife]

How do you take your self so serious is truely the question, I read on this youtube station all the time and people make mistakes and it is not even mention ,but you mr. know -it- all, want to comment on my typing errors, could it be you can not win a righteous argument? and resort to meanless cheap shots to stray away from the real issues?...You do not Know a DAMN thing about the True Teachings of our Dear Messenger and less about living Islam Ha!Peace out, do not respond, do us all a favor...

[TheAsiatic1]

Grow up, evolve and try to mature. Taking shots at Minister Farrakhan will not help our people.

Most of you that claim to follow T.H.E.M are stuck in spiritual puberty and you all do not want to evolve beyond that state!!

I do not mean to be disrespectful, but I have to defend what I believe.

Peace.

[angelmurray5]

Do this help you feel good about yourself??? What would ALLAH say. You are not Allah and how dear you try to Judged someone else. You are not perfect nor are your children if you have some. You are so lost

[TheAsiatic1]

What is your father/captain doing now?

Is he out building a nation for The Messenger?

Or is he sitting back criticizing The Minister?

[TheAsiatic1]

the Messenger died physically, so your assumtion is wrong.

Please learn how to spell. This is becoming very frustrating--Assumption!!

[TheConsciousLife]

Asiatic1,do not become insulting, it was obvious an error in my typing, besides you are wrong in so much, such as your theology of the Messengers teaching you can hardly correct anyone,let's not get personal, and you are the one coming after more than a week responding to an old post comment,so practice what you preach.I suggest you do more studying and less unwarranted criticizing about that you know not like The Teachings!and The Honorable Elijah Muhammad and The Real NOI. you can't win Peace

[angelmurray5]

you need help

[TheAsiatic1]

No, since 1988..Some people grow and evolve, and some stop growing and dissolve!!