I did a 5 min full sparring MMA round with Miura when he was a bit bigger in Florida in the cage once....I have videos on how to do the Osoto Gari and Ouchi Gari in MMA, look em' up
To be honest, I always believed that bjj was the most important aspect of mma. But then I saw that judo guys were doing really well with it to especially when they incorporated judo with bjj. Judo kicks ass. And when you combine takedowns from both styles along with the grappling techniques from both styles (Which are almost the same) then you become a submission machine!
Miura is now a pro boxer with a record of 6-0 (3 KO's). I guess he just wanted a new type of challenge. Hopefully one day he returns to MMA, but I wish him luck in his boxing career.
@MrMZaccone uhhhh actually I just monitor the comments to make sure there is no foul language or childish insults. Out of sheer curiosity, what exactly would there be to cower from intellectually in a video of judo throws?
@recshooter One could just as easily categorize those throws as wrestling throws. The fact is that calling them "judo" throws and insisting that's the only source for the techniques is just silly.
@MrMZaccone Miura has a judo background, I had to give it a title so I went with that. I certainly don't insist on anything being the only source for any technique.
I was at UFC129 last night. That wanker Joe Rogan said Jason Macdonald's triangle choke was an excellent example of BJJ. North America has no idea of Jujutsu and the history of BJJ. I had to explain that in Judo we call it a sankaku, and in Australia, we are not ignorant.
This guy has some of the sickest throws. Every fight I've seen of his he pulls out at least two or three ridiculous throws or trips and makes it look easy.
I definitely agree with the person who said "the best judoka in mma right now..."
Miura/Condit is seriously one of the most truly beautiful MMA matches I can think of, thanks to Miura's throws and trips; even though that was over 2 years ago, even though it was a loss for him, I still look forward to the chance to see Miura compete in MMA again. I hope that even if he doesn't want to go into MMA anymore, he can know that MMA fans appreciate his work and talent!
I think we are starting see more MMA fighters taking a second look at Judo most of the throws have not been seen by MMA fighters so they don't know how too defend against them grant it Uchi Mata and Harai Goshi seem to be the most used and I seen Tai Otoshi a couple of times and Hawns Seoi Nage but there are so many more throws not yet used.
I am a huge fan of mma and I also compete and train in Judo. I compete in Judo as sport not so I can beat people up lol. Its nice to see Judo in mma. Alot of the time when im training you can't see how throws can transfer into mma. But this clip shows it can be very effictive. Thanks :)
Miura has actually put his MMA career on hold and is currently a pro boxer. He is 4-0 with 2 KO's. I hope he returns to MMA one day, but I think it's awesome he's pursueing boxing. He has extremely heavy hands, strong, and athletic. The guy was born to fight.
The New World symphony is too good, makes me focus on music more than the vid itself ... i came here to watch judo not be forced to pay attention to amazingly good music -- why do you think most people choose less complex music to go with their movies lol
The Japanese national that taught the Gracies was actually one the top students of Jigaro Kano.BJJ is really a modified version of randori or Judo ground work. What happened or how?Well Master Kano changed the rules for his Judo matches,because he felt that to much emphasis was placed on strength.There by focusing on the skilled application of throwing techniques as opposed to mainly ground fighting.Japanese Jujitsu is similar but has striking to include,biting,etc.
Ok having trained in japanese ju jitsu sambo, wrestling judo and bjj....sambo has loads of throwing raining and bjj lacks the throws...depending on which school you go to anyway...I agree that its more the fighter that matters than the art thou :)
JJ and Muay Thai...best combo in MY OPINION for MMA. JJJ because it has the throws that Judo picked out for them...and the ground fighting game that Judo and BJJ took for their styles. Sambo/Combat Sambo is somehow a lot like JJ...but people still want to put it side by side with BJJ (lacks a lot of throwing training ...) Besides it not the art...it´s the fighter and how well he is prepared ! So choose your styles wisely and fight :)
@BFerreira82 but its hard finding JJJ in the states and Judo and BJJ are more wide spread even with MMA boosting up BJJ , Judo is still in almost every state and almost every city in the U.S. and Judo is much cheaper then BJJ and alot of schools are going back too Ne Waza training so we getting back too heel hooks and akle locks and knee bars so I think if you cross train BJJ and Judo you will have the best of both worlds .
You know for the life of me I don't understand why more fighters don't try to learn judo. its a great art espicially if you r opponent doesn't count on you using it.
@greenbay357 cause much of it requires a gi to use an only a small portion of throws an be used with out grips even with modiflying the throw to make it work with out a gi
@jonnysaurusrex not at all!!! have you ever heard of pulling guard? some bjj guys just attach to your body and somehow manage to get you to the ground whether that be on your back or on their backs
@jonnysaurusrex yeah, and wait till you try throw someone whoes 50lbs heavier than you, ends up on top and pounds you out, then maybe you would see the beauty in a simple single leg sweep
BJJ is not a descendant from judo, BJJ came from a modified form of mixed japanese Jiu-jitsu technqiues and judo techniques, they were modified by Mitsu Maeda to use less strength and rely on leverage, the gracies modified this style Maeda created even further and created BJJ
@Jofus360 judo was created by the japanese. i dont think judo was influenced by wrestling bcoz japan and europe are seperately vastly by their geographic locations
@thegodofpop1 Yeah but you do realize Chinese martial arts is NOTHING like Japanese martial arts? Two different cultures, traditions, language, AND martial arts.
@shattori1 Seriously dude? Both Karate and Jujutsu draw heavily from Kung Fu. There are very explicit instances of Praying Mantis style Kung Fu in Goju Ryu (karate) as well as Crane and Tiger style in Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu. These are just two specific instances, but there are countless others. In fact, Miyagi Chojun, founder of Goju Ryu, trained in China for many years before returning and creating his own style in Okinawa. tl;dr you're severely misinformed.
Actually BJJ would not exist without japanese JJ, but Judo and modern JJ came from an old JJ form (specifically Daito-Ryu Aikijujutsu, also gave born to Aikido). so Judo is not father to BJJ, it's like it's "brother".
@Sagramorbald bjj come from aikijujitsu is very very joking.but sure is objectivet of gracies when stolen technique and never gave cradits to judo , I thought cause he enrage when got arm break from KIMURA.
@Sagramorbald That's true enough I suppose, but I would clarify and say its "older brother", not just because its in fact an older martial art, but also because there are clear instances where Judo has influenced the BJJ style.
Yes it does. BJJ just practically takes the Ne-Waza (ground) aspect of Kodokan Judo and improved upon it, making it the emphasis. The result is an ever-evolving style. Carlson and Carlos Gracie trace their lineage to Mitsuyo Maeda and are happy about it, make no mistake. It's only the Helio and Rorion Side of the family that really refuses this...
@hazard2000 No, Maeda taught them judo. At the time judo was often misnomered as "jiu-jitsu" because people outside of Japan didn't know the difference. Make no mistake, though. The Gracies developed BJJ from judo.
While judo did play a major role in bjj's devolopment, it was only a small fraction of it, the two founders started with judo and did base a bit off of it, but the myth that judo is the base is growing all too quick, it was the thing that inspired the creation of a new art, but not the base of it
I don't want to start an internet debate, but that rumor is growing too much
@swampertkid Major role and small fraction are contradictions. BJJ is essentially the newaza of Judo, with added techniques. That makes it more than just a "fraction" of Judo. It's no myth or rumor. It's fact. Not my opinion or anybody else's. It's documented fact.
Meada didn't start learning judo until he was 18. Before that he studied ten-shin shinyo-ryu ju jutsu(JJJ). Through actually fighting later in his life he realized that some of the techniques discarded by the kodokan were effective in a real fight. He added these to the curricullum that he tought the gracies.
@GreenGold33 im pretty sure maeda taught the gtracies ju jitsu(submissions and using leverage against ur opponent's limbs). the main techniques and principles behind brazilian jui jistu comes from maeda. the gracies modified things such as using a guard.
@GreenGold33 This. A lot BJJ guys don't like to recognize that their sport came from our sport. Just like we should recognize that Jigoro Kano developed our sport from traditional Japanese jiu jitsu
Actually, this is only partially true. While Fedor's main grappling base is Sambo, Fedor is a black belt in Judo. He even has a gold medal and bronze medal in Russian national Judo championships.
when drunk, yeah, judo suxs abit, couse you need fast reaction time, but thats when your drunk :D all the other times judo is very good, if you know how to throw a few punches and you know some judo and have reflexive skills, it's great, couse iSlapU4Fun was right, most fights in the street end in a knock out by the first two punches and if not, it ends on the ground, becouse after the two punches the fighters get closer, they start to struggle and thats when you throw em' :)
Who is they? No one ever said they don't work in a real fight... judo is one of the most effective arts to take up, since you can train throws real-time full speed/power just like in a fight.
judo doesnt work in a real fight,its not the same as when you have 8 pints on a friday night and scrap in the street,thats real fighting,judo wouldnt stand a chance,nor boxing or kick boxing.
@mrarches belive me i have good experience in the streets and iv been training judo in about 10 years (im 18) and 80% of the fight is JUDO. watch all mma/street fights and ull see that it starts with 2 punches then they go in contact and throw, and fight ends mostly on the ground by an arm bend or something!
@Mihker Both have the same submissions except for knee, shoulder and spine (as far as I know they exist in judo but only in high levels like atemi-waza). BJJ tries to take the fight to the ground where strength is not that important and Judo just tries to blow your back on the ground. lol As a french judo master said "There's no point of fighting on ground if you can throw the oponent from 5 feet high." (Or something like that.)
100% effective both in MMA and in a real fight. If you were to do a Hara Goshi, in a street fight the guy would be out cold. In MMA you would have side control. Either way is a Win!! :)
Fedor its a master of sambo and judo, the throws are practically the same with the exception of sambo allowing leglocks and banning chokes, and judo allowing chokes and not leg locks..Judo can be effective aswell against a topless opponent if its adapted to it...Look how not even coleman could throw mirko on his prime and Fedor put him down using o uchi gari a judo throw...
it has more takedowns, but thers no lack in groundfighting, ther are a lof of submission moves which were originally founded by judo
remember that all gracie members knew judo b4 they created bjj! they got techniques like the armbar or the gogoplata shin choke (similar to triangle choke) from judo!
yeah literally useless aganist an topless fighter because there's no gei to yank on. Very effective in street fights as everyday people tend to wear clothes which makes it easy to grab & choke or throw.
@Wolfsbane909, BJJ is a gi art too. If there is no gi then it is submission grappling. BJJ is a Gi traditional martial art. To say Judo could not be used for MMA because of the Gi is to say the same for BJJ
the only diference between bjj and judo is that one uses more ground game than the other one
MrSpat06 4 months ago
thats pretty cool , but i personally prefer BJJ but theres not a huge difference between them
UpDaDubs34 5 months ago
Very cool! You should check out my video on the University of Minnesota judo demo!
Chiragana 5 months ago
I did a 5 min full sparring MMA round with Miura when he was a bit bigger in Florida in the cage once....I have videos on how to do the Osoto Gari and Ouchi Gari in MMA, look em' up
DanTheWolfman1 5 months ago
that technique is called tai otoshi
sk8sbest 7 months ago
OSOTO GARI! *japanese voice*
ABUDHABICOMBATCLUBOA 7 months ago
Condit <3
thaidudeman 7 months ago
To be honest, I always believed that bjj was the most important aspect of mma. But then I saw that judo guys were doing really well with it to especially when they incorporated judo with bjj. Judo kicks ass. And when you combine takedowns from both styles along with the grappling techniques from both styles (Which are almost the same) then you become a submission machine!
olamprov 7 months ago
Holy crap!!! That's good how he plays judo left handed and has an orthodox stance. He can take pretty much anyone down super fast.
olamprov 7 months ago
if you clinch Miura then you loose
fredjustsucks 8 months ago
Miura is now a pro boxer with a record of 6-0 (3 KO's). I guess he just wanted a new type of challenge. Hopefully one day he returns to MMA, but I wish him luck in his boxing career.
yellowsneakers234 9 months ago
Wrestling has it's own throws... Suplex, etc.... These are judo trips n hip toss! Great work!
cyrusg72 9 months ago
@cyrusg72 Wresling has the hip toss, as does Sambo.
MrGatz08 7 months ago
@MrGatz08 lot's of sambo moves come from judo
erosetcompagnie 7 months ago
@erosetcompagnie True that, in fact sambo itself pretty much comes from judo with some other influences.
farorin 5 months ago
@MrGatz08
I don't see wrestlers use that as often as singles and doubles.
To me i see it as ..
All go to moves..
BJJ = judo trip and lots of fail singles.
Judo = leg throws, trips. And if your *karo paryisan* then all drop seoi nage.
Wrestling = backwards throw(?) don't know the name. single/double.
OVERCAPITALIZE 7 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE
Wrestling = TORSO! I meant torso. :P
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
he did a osoto gari. but with a under hook. i do this move in wrestling but thats cuz I'm a judo practicine
hien3000 6 months ago
My 2 cents the name Ju-jutsu is a very old name so lets all practice and discover our gifting,
03sankyu 9 months ago
NO HAND OSOTO! LOL
garciag03 9 months ago
Oh, I see how it is. Comment pending approval. Intellectual cowardice at its best.
MrMZaccone 9 months ago
@MrMZaccone uhhhh actually I just monitor the comments to make sure there is no foul language or childish insults. Out of sheer curiosity, what exactly would there be to cower from intellectually in a video of judo throws?
recshooter 9 months ago
@recshooter Why don't you tell me. Foul language? What's foul? by whose standard? Childish? Same question.
MrMZaccone 9 months ago
@MrMZaccone
"Why don't you tell me" Tell you what?
"by whose standard?" Since I own this channel that would be mine. I derive my standard from Christianity.
"Foul language? What's foul?" Generally four letter words also known as profanity, cursing, etc
"Childish?" Yes, I consider people insulting one another via the internet childish.
"Same question" I have no idea what this statement/question means. I still wonder what there would be to cower from on a video of judo throws.
recshooter 9 months ago
@recshooter One could just as easily categorize those throws as wrestling throws. The fact is that calling them "judo" throws and insisting that's the only source for the techniques is just silly.
MrMZaccone 9 months ago
@MrMZaccone Miura has a judo background, I had to give it a title so I went with that. I certainly don't insist on anything being the only source for any technique.
recshooter 9 months ago
@recshooter Wonderful. I've overreacted and I apologize. Everybody has a bad day, I guess. Sorry about that.
MrMZaccone 9 months ago
@MrMZaccone absolutely no problem..have a good one
recshooter 9 months ago
Who is that japanese guy that have good judo trips? he fought in the ufc I think
jaffar1808 10 months ago
I was at UFC129 last night. That wanker Joe Rogan said Jason Macdonald's triangle choke was an excellent example of BJJ. North America has no idea of Jujutsu and the history of BJJ. I had to explain that in Judo we call it a sankaku, and in Australia, we are not ignorant.
blastermitch 10 months ago
judo Gene Lebell enough said.
angelgat1 10 months ago
Condit still won
BareFistBrawler480AZ 10 months ago
HARAI?
ticosexy22 11 months ago
@ticosexy22 Tai otoshi, osoto gari and 2 more tai otoshis, then another osoto gari
RagingDemon89 10 months ago
I always wonder why MMA guys don't learn or use more judo/jujitsu throws.
IdiotCommenter 11 months ago
This guy has some of the sickest throws. Every fight I've seen of his he pulls out at least two or three ridiculous throws or trips and makes it look easy.
I definitely agree with the person who said "the best judoka in mma right now..."
putsomething 11 months ago
bjj and judo is the best combination! (imo)
MrRulleKebab 11 months ago
bjj and judo is the best combination! (imo)
MrRulleKebab 11 months ago
Miura/Condit is seriously one of the most truly beautiful MMA matches I can think of, thanks to Miura's throws and trips; even though that was over 2 years ago, even though it was a loss for him, I still look forward to the chance to see Miura compete in MMA again. I hope that even if he doesn't want to go into MMA anymore, he can know that MMA fans appreciate his work and talent!
tbohm0 11 months ago
some how he lost this fight
HumbleTurtle007 11 months ago
I think we are starting see more MMA fighters taking a second look at Judo most of the throws have not been seen by MMA fighters so they don't know how too defend against them grant it Uchi Mata and Harai Goshi seem to be the most used and I seen Tai Otoshi a couple of times and Hawns Seoi Nage but there are so many more throws not yet used.
glock70 1 year ago
Japanese Jujutsu and Judo wouldn't had existed without Chinese Shuai Jiao and Chinese Qin Na
BOORIJINAL 1 year ago
I am a huge fan of mma and I also compete and train in Judo. I compete in Judo as sport not so I can beat people up lol. Its nice to see Judo in mma. Alot of the time when im training you can't see how throws can transfer into mma. But this clip shows it can be very effictive. Thanks :)
Bigadzy 1 year ago
Miura has actually put his MMA career on hold and is currently a pro boxer. He is 4-0 with 2 KO's. I hope he returns to MMA one day, but I think it's awesome he's pursueing boxing. He has extremely heavy hands, strong, and athletic. The guy was born to fight.
yellowsneakers234 1 year ago
The New World symphony is too good, makes me focus on music more than the vid itself ... i came here to watch judo not be forced to pay attention to amazingly good music -- why do you think most people choose less complex music to go with their movies lol
theguyi26 1 year ago
Its a shame A LOT of judo does not translate well to no gi. When someone is really sweaty it is almost impossible to execute judo style throws.
Still an awesome art and there are aspects of it that do work very well in MMA.
PS
Its not about BJJ, JJJ or Judo is the best. Cross training is the way to go, they are all awesome.
Brydonaka 1 year ago
Nice Japanese Ju Jitsu throws.
mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
the best judoka in mma right now...
jeronimtkd 1 year ago 16
@jeronimtkd He is insane him and Dong Hyun Kim
wolfhammer2010 1 year ago
JUDO OWNS
TheZetsurulez 1 year ago 33
The Japanese national that taught the Gracies was actually one the top students of Jigaro Kano.BJJ is really a modified version of randori or Judo ground work. What happened or how?Well Master Kano changed the rules for his Judo matches,because he felt that to much emphasis was placed on strength.There by focusing on the skilled application of throwing techniques as opposed to mainly ground fighting.Japanese Jujitsu is similar but has striking to include,biting,etc.
schaelakhan 1 year ago 2
Ok having trained in japanese ju jitsu sambo, wrestling judo and bjj....sambo has loads of throwing raining and bjj lacks the throws...depending on which school you go to anyway...I agree that its more the fighter that matters than the art thou :)
BudoWolfy 1 year ago
@BudoWolfy Your so right! My school bjj lacks the throws.
manny19883 11 months ago
JJ and Muay Thai...best combo in MY OPINION for MMA. JJJ because it has the throws that Judo picked out for them...and the ground fighting game that Judo and BJJ took for their styles. Sambo/Combat Sambo is somehow a lot like JJ...but people still want to put it side by side with BJJ (lacks a lot of throwing training ...) Besides it not the art...it´s the fighter and how well he is prepared ! So choose your styles wisely and fight :)
BFerreira82 1 year ago
@BFerreira82 i agree judo and muay thai go together well since both work from the clinch
shanexnetherton 1 year ago
@shanexnetherton Yea Judo + Muay Thai = San Shou and its lovely!
wolfhammer2010 1 year ago
@BFerreira82 but its hard finding JJJ in the states and Judo and BJJ are more wide spread even with MMA boosting up BJJ , Judo is still in almost every state and almost every city in the U.S. and Judo is much cheaper then BJJ and alot of schools are going back too Ne Waza training so we getting back too heel hooks and akle locks and knee bars so I think if you cross train BJJ and Judo you will have the best of both worlds .
glock70 1 year ago
great tia tosh there.
nintendo700 1 year ago
lol. love the epic soundtrack
1toke2much 1 year ago
You know for the life of me I don't understand why more fighters don't try to learn judo. its a great art espicially if you r opponent doesn't count on you using it.
greenbay357 1 year ago
@greenbay357 cause much of it requires a gi to use an only a small portion of throws an be used with out grips even with modiflying the throw to make it work with out a gi
thatkidHunter1377 1 year ago
I agree, in order to submit someone you need a good means of sending them on their back.
jonnysaurusrex 1 year ago
@jonnysaurusrex not at all!!! have you ever heard of pulling guard? some bjj guys just attach to your body and somehow manage to get you to the ground whether that be on your back or on their backs
hekoka 1 year ago
@hekoka When was the last time you saw guard pulled by the winning fighter in an MMA match? Three years ago? Four?
ooogooman 1 year ago
@ooogooman
Demian Maia vs Nate Quarry?
Rasmusssss93 1 year ago
@ooogooman Verdum vs. Fedor ! One of the baddest guards around !
MattFinstein 1 year ago
@jonnysaurusrex yeah, and wait till you try throw someone whoes 50lbs heavier than you, ends up on top and pounds you out, then maybe you would see the beauty in a simple single leg sweep
hazard2000 1 year ago
gracies gave their japanese tenant free rent in exchange free lesson in jiu jitsu....asian people invented fighting
FullBloodedHmoob 1 year ago
@FullBloodedHmoob not boxing or wreslting?or greco either?how bout muay thai?
thatkidHunter1377 1 year ago
Judoism
XxUnknownxX8 1 year ago
this was a good fight
shuriken86 1 year ago
hahahaha, Flight of the Valkyries, thats funny.
Osirisrules 1 year ago
o-goshi?
ticosexy22 1 year ago
Sexy
gegak 1 year ago
Nice.
darkvictoryy 1 year ago
flight of the valkyries.
nealofgrafton 1 year ago
Sambo is a mix of a lot of styles not just Judo, but it uses Judo as well as traditional Russian folk style wrestling as it's base.
temperex 1 year ago 2
who are you guys, do all of you with smart answers actually compete or do you just dit around and read wikipedia all day and night
chey1112 1 year ago 3
Sounds like someone is still mad about that whole half a century of Russian oppression thing...
unrulyrascal 2 years ago
We are doing Sambo you moron!
Samboussr 2 years ago
To be technical, he does Sambo. But Sambo is a descendant art of Judo, so it's basically Russian Judo (BJJ is also a descendant art of Judo).
1ikwid 2 years ago
@1ikwid
he does both. he was bronze medal winner in Judo Russia 1999
GRANDMASTERxxxFLASH 2 years ago
Fedor also has a gold medal in 1997 russian judo championchips
ThomasMin1988 2 years ago
BJJ is not a descendant from judo, BJJ came from a modified form of mixed japanese Jiu-jitsu technqiues and judo techniques, they were modified by Mitsu Maeda to use less strength and rely on leverage, the gracies modified this style Maeda created even further and created BJJ
hazard2000 2 years ago
Thats right, GJJ or BJJ has nothing to doing with Japanese MA.
Samboussr 2 years ago
BJJ wouldn't exist without Japanese JJ and Judo.
unrulyrascal 2 years ago 192
@unrulyrascal bjj is an emphasis on the ground game, judo is an emphasis on the clinch,thats the way i look at it anyway
cb8624 1 year ago
@unrulyrascal bjj is an emphasis on the ground game, judo is an emphasis on the clinch,thats the way i look at it anyway
cb8624 1 year ago
@unrulyrascal and it still beats the crap out of both :)
Morgothhhh 1 year ago
@unrulyrascal Judo would not exist without wrestling which has it's origins in Egypt/Greece.
Jofus360 1 year ago
@Jofus360 judo was created by the japanese. i dont think judo was influenced by wrestling bcoz japan and europe are seperately vastly by their geographic locations
kingstaffy 1 year ago
@Jofus360- not really. there's many different grappling styles all around the world that were created without ever knowing of each other.
ajdaemon08 1 year ago
@Jofus360 actually grappling is pretty universal to every culture and society...
xKingKang 1 year ago
@Jofus360 completely false information. it woudlnt exist withotu the hcinese and indian who collaborated ot make the first martial arts.
thegodofpop1 1 year ago
@thegodofpop1 Yeah but you do realize Chinese martial arts is NOTHING like Japanese martial arts? Two different cultures, traditions, language, AND martial arts.
shattori1 1 year ago
@shattori1 I laughed at your comment.
ForwardIntent 1 year ago
@shattori1 Seriously dude? Both Karate and Jujutsu draw heavily from Kung Fu. There are very explicit instances of Praying Mantis style Kung Fu in Goju Ryu (karate) as well as Crane and Tiger style in Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu. These are just two specific instances, but there are countless others. In fact, Miyagi Chojun, founder of Goju Ryu, trained in China for many years before returning and creating his own style in Okinawa. tl;dr you're severely misinformed.
xDynaBlade 1 year ago
@unrulyrascal
Actually BJJ would not exist without japanese JJ, but Judo and modern JJ came from an old JJ form (specifically Daito-Ryu Aikijujutsu, also gave born to Aikido). so Judo is not father to BJJ, it's like it's "brother".
Sagramorbald 1 year ago
@Sagramorbald Nahhh. I used to think that but apparently it's from judo. They used to call judo kano jujitsu.
RasAlGhul4000 1 year ago
@Sagramorbald bjj come from aikijujitsu is very very joking.but sure is objectivet of gracies when stolen technique and never gave cradits to judo , I thought cause he enrage when got arm break from KIMURA.
seeonall0 1 year ago
@Sagramorbald That's true enough I suppose, but I would clarify and say its "older brother", not just because its in fact an older martial art, but also because there are clear instances where Judo has influenced the BJJ style.
matityahub 1 year ago
@unrulyrascal your correct however judo is comes from japanese jujutsu
chiluzzdia 1 year ago
@unrulyrascal not judo cause bjj has no throw? but jj yes it would not with out that
thatkidHunter1377 1 year ago
@unrulyrascal yea mainly Japanese jujutsu though since it influenced Judo
dudesrock2 1 year ago
@dudesrock2 judo came from japanese ju-jutsu ....it's just jujutsu without the punches and kicks
normalnamesplz 1 year ago
@unrulyrascal BJJ it's only a Kyu of japanese Jujutsu/Judo
soparamens 1 year ago
@Samboussr
Yes it does. BJJ just practically takes the Ne-Waza (ground) aspect of Kodokan Judo and improved upon it, making it the emphasis. The result is an ever-evolving style. Carlson and Carlos Gracie trace their lineage to Mitsuyo Maeda and are happy about it, make no mistake. It's only the Helio and Rorion Side of the family that really refuses this...
filipenis96 1 year ago
@hazard2000 No, Maeda taught them judo. At the time judo was often misnomered as "jiu-jitsu" because people outside of Japan didn't know the difference. Make no mistake, though. The Gracies developed BJJ from judo.
GreenGold33 1 year ago 23
While judo did play a major role in bjj's devolopment, it was only a small fraction of it, the two founders started with judo and did base a bit off of it, but the myth that judo is the base is growing all too quick, it was the thing that inspired the creation of a new art, but not the base of it
I don't want to start an internet debate, but that rumor is growing too much
swampertkid 1 year ago
@swampertkid Major role and small fraction are contradictions. BJJ is essentially the newaza of Judo, with added techniques. That makes it more than just a "fraction" of Judo. It's no myth or rumor. It's fact. Not my opinion or anybody else's. It's documented fact.
noose357 1 year ago
Meada didn't start learning judo until he was 18. Before that he studied ten-shin shinyo-ryu ju jutsu(JJJ). Through actually fighting later in his life he realized that some of the techniques discarded by the kodokan were effective in a real fight. He added these to the curricullum that he tought the gracies.
charliemurphyslaw 1 year ago
@GreenGold33 Did you even read Maeda's book? I guess not.
frontdesk123 1 year ago
@GreenGold33 im pretty sure maeda taught the gtracies ju jitsu(submissions and using leverage against ur opponent's limbs). the main techniques and principles behind brazilian jui jistu comes from maeda. the gracies modified things such as using a guard.
kingstaffy 1 year ago
@GreenGold33 This. A lot BJJ guys don't like to recognize that their sport came from our sport. Just like we should recognize that Jigoro Kano developed our sport from traditional Japanese jiu jitsu
kylesteinhauser 7 months ago 5
Actually, this is only partially true. While Fedor's main grappling base is Sambo, Fedor is a black belt in Judo. He even has a gold medal and bronze medal in Russian national Judo championships.
ecrec08 2 years ago 2
@ecrec08 Sambo is about 80% judo though
grahamhg 2 years ago
when drunk, yeah, judo suxs abit, couse you need fast reaction time, but thats when your drunk :D all the other times judo is very good, if you know how to throw a few punches and you know some judo and have reflexive skills, it's great, couse iSlapU4Fun was right, most fights in the street end in a knock out by the first two punches and if not, it ends on the ground, becouse after the two punches the fighters get closer, they start to struggle and thats when you throw em' :)
zigmas000 2 years ago
yeah that's good i fight in a judo club and practice some boxing-perfect combination
MrBuddy92 2 years ago
As do boxing, and kickboxing when done right.
flykyrt 2 years ago
Boy look at the one at 00:15. If that isn't useful I don't know what is. He's off-balance from missing with his left, and goes for the trip.
SokJuice 2 years ago
That's some advertisement for judo
bla7091 2 years ago
ive done alot of boxing now in the army i have taken up judo good idea lol
jakethepeg1066 2 years ago
Throws are on of those few techniques that are kool AND practical.
fredjustsucks 2 years ago
Brilliant!!!
scumimpaler 2 years ago 2
judo throw than ground and pound or submission is awesome and u can go into it by punching kicking whatever softening techniques
maxboucher86 2 years ago 3
i bet that muscle sharks bloke is a dirty lil yank
jackcorbett1991 2 years ago
Judo in my opinion transitions into MMA just as effectively as Greco Roman wrestling.
FuckingBoozer 2 years ago
And they say Judo throws don't work in a real fight. I beg to differ
jkullander 2 years ago 54
Who is they? No one ever said they don't work in a real fight... judo is one of the most effective arts to take up, since you can train throws real-time full speed/power just like in a fight.
Aheyne 2 years ago 6
judo doesnt work in a real fight,its not the same as when you have 8 pints on a friday night and scrap in the street,thats real fighting,judo wouldnt stand a chance,nor boxing or kick boxing.
mrarches 2 years ago
@mrarches belive me i have good experience in the streets and iv been training judo in about 10 years (im 18) and 80% of the fight is JUDO. watch all mma/street fights and ull see that it starts with 2 punches then they go in contact and throw, and fight ends mostly on the ground by an arm bend or something!
iSlapU4Fun 2 years ago 2
Submissions are more BJJ, if im not mistaken. I dont train judo but it seems like judo is more throws and chokes?
Mihker 2 years ago
@Mihker Judo has submissions as well (arm bars, shoulder locks, etc)
bub4444 2 years ago
@Mihker Both have the same submissions except for knee, shoulder and spine (as far as I know they exist in judo but only in high levels like atemi-waza). BJJ tries to take the fight to the ground where strength is not that important and Judo just tries to blow your back on the ground. lol As a french judo master said "There's no point of fighting on ground if you can throw the oponent from 5 feet high." (Or something like that.)
PinguimMarco 1 year ago
100% effective both in MMA and in a real fight. If you were to do a Hara Goshi, in a street fight the guy would be out cold. In MMA you would have side control. Either way is a Win!! :)
therazor182 2 years ago
@jkullander at last, some1 that understands!!!! they do WORKKK!!
joshuaMarioBros4566 2 years ago
@jkullander and yet - here nobody wears any clothes to grab
ScanianLeather666 1 year ago
@jkullander better on the street than in the ring imo. Make someone fall on their face on tarmac or gravel, thats them finished
veshkeat 11 months ago
Great balance. Very slick.
Yamainnu 2 years ago
Fedor its a master of sambo and judo, the throws are practically the same with the exception of sambo allowing leglocks and banning chokes, and judo allowing chokes and not leg locks..Judo can be effective aswell against a topless opponent if its adapted to it...Look how not even coleman could throw mirko on his prime and Fedor put him down using o uchi gari a judo throw...
AJDevilx 2 years ago 3
fedor sucks dont mention him any more
TheMuscleShark1 2 years ago
all those takedowns must earn a lot of points
brandonlamchops 2 years ago 4
this video is BEAUTIFUL
RurouniHeart 2 years ago 2
lol, why would the judokas opponent keep clinching with him? thats a terrible idea....especially if you dont know judo
Curatalo506 2 years ago 2
I think taijutsu is the most common praticed technique in MMA, because it gives you the best of both worlds in standup and grappling.
SteelCity1981 2 years ago
Nope. Pretty much no professional MMA player practices taijutsu.
PrintScrn12 2 years ago 2
i think this is very useful in a fight. u can take him to the ground whenever u want. and if the fight ends. u could win by descision easier.
drpepperjake123 2 years ago 2
but you got to know how to fight on the ground - unless you are a ground and pound guy
ukuledoj 2 years ago
you know judo is submission grappling as well
it has more takedowns, but thers no lack in groundfighting, ther are a lof of submission moves which were originally founded by judo
remember that all gracie members knew judo b4 they created bjj! they got techniques like the armbar or the gogoplata shin choke (similar to triangle choke) from judo!
CarlitoJohnson 2 years ago 4
by viewing it looks like those gloves would make grappling harder.
yearofthehorse2049 2 years ago
one reason why ther are rarely any top judoka fighters
in judo u use a lot of gipulling to throw and gichoking to submit
its a self defense art, not really made for the ring, yet having a lot of still useful leghooks and throws
CarlitoJohnson 2 years ago
yeah literally useless aganist an topless fighter because there's no gei to yank on. Very effective in street fights as everyday people tend to wear clothes which makes it easy to grab & choke or throw.
Wolfsbane909 2 years ago
@Wolfsbane909, BJJ is a gi art too. If there is no gi then it is submission grappling. BJJ is a Gi traditional martial art. To say Judo could not be used for MMA because of the Gi is to say the same for BJJ
ckd04 2 years ago 3
useless against a topless fighter??? did you even watch the video?
fupasack2 2 years ago
n1 in judo is fedor and hictor and akiyama
dridba 2 years ago
fedor is basically a sambo fighter.
Hobofobico 2 years ago
and a national champion in judo, but sambo is influenced by judo anyways, so wth :P
CarlitoJohnson 2 years ago
judo throw for the win
Wdd4lif3 2 years ago
Very good! I am a judoist, and I am happy to see this guy fighting.
shunglee 2 years ago
Judoist? YOU mean judoka?
mizdierbeatz 2 years ago 55
lmao he may also be a karatian
dogico 2 years ago
@mizdierbeatz lol
ticosexy22 1 year ago
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KarateChamp18 2 years ago
Karo Parysian is the bets at Judo throws, better then this guy.
ionballer408 2 years ago
Yeah but he should stick to Judo. He may win most of his matches but he cant finish them.
WarJudoka 2 years ago
don't clinch with this dude
hammerVsface5150 2 years ago 4
seriously
1Mafioso4 2 years ago
very good
Hotora86 2 years ago
nice osoto gari
maxbigwood 2 years ago
This guy is good but no one has karo's throws in MMA! The way karo adopted his judo is unbelievable / picture perfect / brutal / utterly sick!!
IN5YOUR5FACE5 2 years ago
Man, that guy has no base watsoever.
Saforge 2 years ago
Condit may have won the fight, but he earned a bunch of sky miles in the process!
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