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  • So what to get instead of m-audio axiom?

  • same sh**!

  • I took my Axiom pro 61 appart & took the keybead out, its where the key ends rest on rubber gromits, they must stick to the rubber after a day of non use, I tried a drop of lube in each one which was fine for about a week. then it started again.. maybe fabric w or felt should have been used. I might try a silicon based lube . I'll probly just leave it, had it for over a year now and it dosent rly bother me I just mash all the keys before I start and there fine for a few hours.

  • made in fucking china

  • And those still using windows XP, cmon people. its 2012 soon, windows XP is from 2001, thats 11 years, your using 11 years old software and complain about errors?

  • This only happens the first time you use it after its been unused, if you press down all the keys once it doesnt happen again until you let it be for a couple days without playing on it, so ist not really an issue.

  • Thats weird? ??

  • that why i spent the extra money and got an akai mpk61

  • i have an axiom 49 and the keys are probably one of the best features. I suggest you do what you did in this video and then your keys will "unsticky " themselves. Maybe having some kind of a cloth above it while its restin` could help too. Dont know why its such a big problem for you that you had to make video about it.

    If I had to pick something not to like it would be the rotary encoders and the clicky sound they make. I guess they realized it was a fail so the new axiom`s have better one`s.

  • Get a Mac and there'll be no blue screens of death. :)

  • @shredder370 Yeah, on my Mac Mini I just get this cool infinite rainbow pinwheel/mouse pointer when the system hangs. Much more visually interesting to look at than a boring BSOD, before I hit the power button to cold boot the Mac.

  • I really don't see the porblem with sticky keys,... i mean,... they're sticky only the first time you press them after some time you haven't played it,... so press all the keys before you start to play and voila - no problem.

    the blue screen of death,... well that's another story,... that one really pisses me off and makes me hate m-audio,... i downloaded the new drivers for winxp 3sp,..hope it will help,...

  • Thumbs up if you have the same keyboard.

  • Fuck me.... cheerz for the comments guys.... Minutes ago i was on ebay and nearly clicked the buy now option on the axiom pro 61, but then i started to come across more and more bad reviews. I best do some more research!!!! Sorry some of you guys learnt the hard way but thanks for saving me some shit!!! Ill make sure others who are interested in this product know about its flaws!!!!!!!!!

  • Should've turned the damn thing back in to the store. Did you fill out the warranty card??? No? hmmm..... ALWAYS fill out and send in the warranty card. And NEVER buy a store's "coverage" plan. That's just a cash cow. Better luck next time ;)

  • I was beginning to think that only I had this problem, but your's seems even worse. Mine only had it on the white keys, not the blacks. Anyway, now I've got the flickering blue screen of death. M-Audio sucks, I will never buy another product from them.

  • Is it better with the new gen?

  • that's why they made a 2nd generation...

  • Have axiom pro. Same here)

  • It's no true; I have just bought one and there isn't that problem. The touch is not amazing indeed, but is good.

  • @Moschimosca Did you buy the Axiom mk2? The one in this video is the old Axiom. I also own the old model and had the sticky keys issue, so I'd be interested to know if the problem has been addressed in the new model. Thanks

  • @manueldaman it is the old one. The keys are little noisy, but work perfectly

  • @FreakNatureJK hey man, I don't doubt that many M-audio products work as advertised and so they should, my problem isn't even that the axioms are inherently faulty, it's the fact that M-Audio did not want to acknowledge the problem even though their own forums were flooded with people complaining about it, they basically spent two years denying the fault existed. It's all about customer care, M-Audio must take note of firms like R0de, they look after their customers extremely well...

  • Uh oh you better watch out "bottom C" the hand is kreepin up to get you!!!

  • i had this problem. mine also has that sticky keys and some keys were hard to press. all i did was return it. and the second axiom i got was perfect. no sticky/hard keys anymore.

  • Try to put a bit silicon spray between the keys  would solve that issue

  • maybe you just have sticky fingers? :P My keyboard has that aswell, who cares.

  • fuck im lucky i got the novation sl mk2

  • THIS VIDEO IS NOT FAKE! I know because my Axiom Pro has the same exact problem, never buy M-Audio, they'll sell you some shoddy chinese-build crap and they won't look after you when you have problems like this, they'll just deny the problem exists

  • Im confused, is this a joke or not? I own an Axiom 61 and it behaves just fine.

  • mine does that too, but who cares you press em all once before you start playing and then theyre fine =]

  • my axiom pro had 1 sticky key after a while of good use, good thing it was still under warranty got a new one no prob.

  • Whats a better option that buying this one...I'm glad I saw this as I was close to buying it and have heard a lot of bad reviews about it....

  • damn! the aesthetics are great but this problem is unacceptable.

  • I have Axiom 49,4-5 months and it's working great. I don't know where you bought this one. So bad if this one was a marketing stuff,just saying. Great MIDI for great price,keys are at good quality beside other MIDI controllers with biger price.

  • Hey hey guys, relax.... M-audio just wants you to WARM UP before playing.. :)

  • What on earth is this video supposed to prove? What has the clicking sound got to do with anything? Any who does his hand have to move around like something from the Munsters?

  • 2 words, dust cleaner...

    My friend had this problem until we started to weekly clean his axiom.. no problem after that.

  • this video is fake. if u will notice, the sound is added, it starts earlier than the push thing on the keys ;)

  • @Tatarashvili: NO.., it's NOT... sync-problems with audio and video tracks are common if you work with cheapo gear like I did! You try to discredit me, cause you work for M-Audio, don't you?

  • @LonDonsen

    No, im not working for M audio actually, i m gonna buy m audio oxygen, not axiom, but when i saw this video, it looks fake. i dought that the sound is added.

  • @Tatarashvili I just bought a Roland A800 pro, and it's fantastic

  • @Tatarashvili Mine does the same thing. The video is real.

  • @Tatarashvili

    only bullshit what u tryin to tell us.. OG.. The newer Axiom Pro 61 have the same problems.. mad keys..

  • @MrFinchMaster well, that' not toally true. Some have, many others don't have that problem, myself included. Do you actually cover your axiom when you don't use it? dust can do some pretty funky thing to anything that is electrical.

  • lol, my axiom 25 has worked perfectly since day 1 (despite me being the clumsy owner), and I'd happily get another.

  • get oxygen, its cheaper and has like no problems

  • I had the axiom 49 sold it and bought the mpk 49 the only thing I liked about the mpk was the note repeat and appregiator other than that it felt very cheap took back to guitar center the next day and trade it in for the 2nd gen axiom 49 couldn't be happier

  • Alright, if you dont like the axioms then what else would you recommend for the same price?

  • axiom is shit!!! i have the same problem and that's not all.

    since last week i have the "blue screen of death"!!!!!

    i never knew, that this is so common, that they have a name for that.

    when you google "m-audio blue screen of death" you get the link for

    the m-audio forum where so many people from around the world pissed off of

    this screen shit!!! the only thing what they say for about one year "we are sorry about this problem..try this and try that.. bla bla bla" never m-audio. sl mk2 or mpk49

  • @Hasta8meBenny

    Thanks for sharing this info. M-Audio is a joke! Honestly kids.. do not waste your money & time with this brand.

  • @LonDonsen you are welcome mate..

    everyone have to know this all issues!!!

    there is another vid here on youtube called

    "M-Audio AXiom Pro vs Novation SL MK2"

    even there does a key on the axiom not work.. hahahhaaa..

  • @LonDonsen Ahaam ...that's why Paul van Dyk and Armin van Buuren use axiom in all their concerts?

  • @codyrap95 because they are smart, if that cheesy crap falls from the stand they just smile. decent gear to the studio, cheapo gear to the stage.

  • @LonDonsen appreciate you posting this. i was very close to purchasing one of their keyboards. I guess i'll have to keep my search up. By any chance do you have some suggestions?

  • @queerp ... Yeah! Watch my "Unboxing Novation Remote 49 SL MkII" video.

  • @LonDonsen i wanted to buy the same... can you give me a alternative, or just a masterkeyboard around that price?

  • @Hasta8meBenny blue screen of death sucks! I once had I happen during sound check TWICE before a show, switched to a macbook pro, and M-audio's drivers aren't needed anymore, so no more crashes :)

  • personally, I was pleased to find they had a "Sticky feel". I play the organ and some harpsicord, so the little catch in the keys gives it more of a tracker feel to me.

  • Yeah, i just got the same keyboard, i havent noticed this.

    You mightve just gotten a bad one, idk.

  • your extremly unlucky my axiom is smooth as hell and has seen all the abuse a keyboard could see ,spilled alcopops into it ,left it for 6 month no play punched it kicked it screamed at it ,and u know what its in perfect condition this controller owns i really dont know why yours is like a slab of cement lol

  • my axiom 61 rules

  • the akai mpk25 doesnt have that problem i dont think, the axiom prolly has that problem cus that happens sometimes when they try to give it the actual piano feel

  • I've got the 25 version, and it does stick a little bit when I first press each key, but after that the stickyness goes away

  • mine is not that sticky dude idk what that is about

  • i guess you just gotta mash all the keys down before you start every time.

  • what usb keyboard should I buy?

  • @snow2312 mpk49

  • You need to use it more instead of making videos about a problem that is caused by your lack of use.

  • Is this problem is only with this specific model (Axiom) or with all M-Audio keyboards, because I'm planning to buy M-Audio Oxygen 61 and I would like to know if I'm buying the right thing. Thanks.

  • I've played "the fuck outta" my Axiom 61 for about 4 years now, and the keys still stick. I have tried out virtually every MIDI controller keyboard available in the US, and although the sticky keys are annoying, the Axiom is more responsive and expressive than anything else out there with aftertouch. The Xboard's black keys transmit near-full velocity at all times and the Edirol/Cakewalk keyboards require you to put your full body weight into the key to engage the aftertouch.

  • Calling it a good product other than this annoyance is a great assessment. I kind of just press down on the keys before I turn it on. I keep it around because the keys on the Axiom are actually more sensitive to velocity differences than the $3,000 synth to which I have it hooked up. Using the term "Chinese" interchangeably with "cheap" may not be the highlight of the video, but that's another conversation.

  • Same happens with my Kurzweil SP76.

  • same problem on my axiom 49

  • and so is how she lost her virginity.................. PD: my m-audio Oxygen 61 doesnt do that :D

  • Mine's like that too.

    Had it a good while now. 

  • I absolutely honestly don't know what the f is supposed to be the problem right there, just from watching the video alone, also not from reading the description.

  • @figger88

    just turn on your speakers before you start to complain!

  • The same fuckin thing with my oxygen61.

    WTF?

  • @Wiltko Really? The new Oxygen 3rd gen series? I haven't had any problems with stick keys. Only think is that 4 of the transport buttons dont work (which sucks!)

  • @corndogers564 Nope, I have an old one, with silver case, not new black ones

  • @Wiltko That's unfortunate. The new version has lighter keys, so they don't stick. It's probably a manufacturing fault from M-Audio. Makes me want to avoid the Axiom Mk II series, which I've had my eye on for a month.

  • @corndogers564 I bought mine almost 2 years ago, so probably that was an unknown problem in m-audio

  • from what Ive read u have to take it appart and beneth the keys u will see a foam u need to relese the air that is traped beneth the foam just untape it and tape it again with some good glue that should do it

  • why dont people ever suggest anything? all they say is maudio sucks blah blah blah. noone ever says "well instead of this... get this"

    this leads me to believe no one here has any idea wat th e fuck they are talking about.

  • is this the same with the 2nd generation : ?

  • I just Bought mine today, and nothing happened. not even the first time at the store. It was perfect. I think you were unlucky pal.

  • @Vitico222 hahahahahahahaha wait some time buddy... m-audio will disappoint you soon or later ;)

  • @VFutureTV : )

  • This really, REALLY made me laugh to watch. Enough to put it on my favorites and show my friends. The Novation Remote had an issue where they stopped working all together after a month, they probably fixed it by now I hope.

    This problem is not solvable. Some people have the stickiness all the time, so if it's smooth afterwards, maybe all the rubber seals didn't crack or break.

  • OMFG!!! This is the SUCKIEST controller ever! I had HUGE problems with the 61 key unit. I DO NOT recommend this controller to anyone! M-AUDIO Sucks!

  • I DONT HAVE THAT PROBLEM AND MY SHIT NEW!!!

  • I had the 25-key version for almost a year and had sticky keys as well. I wanted a good portable midi keyboard( have a hammer action Motif ES8). I learned for the second time that being a pianist, I will never buy an M-Audio keyboard again. They have terrible action/quality. Their Oxygen was horrible but this thing is also overpriced for the build quality. Same goes with their audio interfaces.

  • Poor Chinese quality is sort of redundant but they make what cheap-assed companies tell them to make. That is a strange problem, though. I might look at Novation Nocturn instead.

  • o gosh!!!!

  • M-Audio.. .sucks my friends I sold my 88 m-audio pro controller for the same reason described in this video.... m-audio is budget and I knew that... It's really a matter of how long will you put up with an inferior quality product.

  • Mine has the same problem but I never would have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out lol

  • watched the video again to get a better idea what you were talking about with the keys sticking.... seems to be a defective product bro. it happens a lot with M-Audio. got a set of their monitors before that didn't work at all out of the box.

  • I have a M-audio Oxygen 25 and m-audio 61es, and never had this problem, the 61es is semi weighted also. I would say that that batch of keyboards just went bad

  • no entendi un carajo!

  • hey i am chinese and

  • uuuhhmmmm Humidity?

  • Not happening to mine although it's been sitting in the dust for quite some time already, just checked it and it doesn't stick like that at all :P

  • I boutght a really cheap cheap CME m-key and it rocks! it does not have this problem, if M-AUDIO went wriong, switch to another brand!

  • yeah i have this controller and mine came fucked up as well. they special ordered another one with a 15% restocking fee and now its not compatible with windows 7.

  • jazzowacko, were not asking for a Steinway, just a serviceable synth action board. A have a stage piano with full weight when I need to play a sensitive piano piece. This doesn't even cut it for layering a pad with any amount of sensitivity at all unless you are a headbanger.

  • Yep, just returned mine. Played the heck out of it for 2 weeks and still the keys were sticky on first touch.

    M Audio is a joke. They knew about this problem with the old Axiom and now, go watch their video demonstrating this at NAMM. They make a big deal about the greatly 'improved' and 'pro feel' of the keyboard as a new feature.

    Avid should be ashamed at owning this company.

  • You are right, they have a horrible keyboard. M Audio SUCKS. Everything they make is compromised by the marketing and bean counter department.

    kingofkeyboards... plastic 'synth' style keys do not mean a 'cheap' feel. A well made plastic 'semi weighted' action can be very nice and useful for certain types plating e.g. triggering pads, synths and even drums, where a piano action does not work well.

  • Did anyone have this problem with the keys, then after a lot of use, it stopped happening?

    Was thinking of getting the axiom pro vs novation slmk2?

    Has anyone tried both machines and which did you prefere and why?

  • yes,Poor chinese quality....

  • WHO CARES???

    play the damn thing already !

    It's a midi-controller not a steinway.

  • just keep playing it, then there will be no problem :->>. my keystation pro has noisy key action, but in reality makes very little difference. Even real pianos produce some mechanical noise.

  • I have the same!

  • i just bought this controller.. first time i open it from the box, yes it's a little bit sticky.. but after 2 days, everything was awesome.. the keys is so comfort. don't compare this controller with 3000 bucks like yamaha. this is a perfect controller for 300 bucks.. You just need to use it.. not put this controller as a show off in your living room.. :)

  • Were your keys sticky at any point after you made this video?

  • put a tiny bit of oil betwenn the keys truss it works good and smoother but dont use too much

    or else itll be a mess any oil is fine just a drop inbwetween keys thts all u need and then press all the keys 2 times and itl be fine and never it will be sticky i did this and i have no probz

  • Jaja, si el salame le sube el volumen al principio y en la segunda parte lo deja normal...

  • i got big nutts

  • Clearly from reading the comments on this video there's a 50/50 about this problem. Some people have this problem some people think it's because it's new. Personally I'd stop making a fuss whoever made the video cos for the price what did you expect heavy hammer action keys?

  • When the main thing on a keyboard-controller (the keyboard) sucks then 300 bucks are way too much.

  • @LonDonsen i think the main thing about this keyboard is the amount of features that it offers within the realm of production. i think it's a production tool first, and a keyboard second. if you were looking for something with great action and great feel you should be looking at something else besides these $300 production keyboards. these are apples and pianos are oranges. if you're looking for an orange, buy an orange.

  • I just got a Axiom 61, and um keepn it! Always negativity huh? Well it goes together, positive negative. The positive side to this controller is that it does everything a $2500 one does, saves me money, go Axiom!

  • war bis jetzt bei mir noch nich der fall^^

  • dude you gotta play the fuck outta that shit to break it in a little!!

  • Are you guys too sluggish to read more than one comment? My Novation Remote is brand new and the keys feel ultra smooth, so recommendations like these (you were not the 1st one) are completely useless!

  • Well, I'm gettin my Axiom 61 tomorrow so I will see for myself :D

    Will let you know

  • My new Novation Remote 49SL MkII plus unboxing video is here. Look at the video response section. The Novation keyboard is really awesome. It's just 2 days old and NOT sticky at all and I'm sure it never will be! Automap is 10 times better and faster than the M-AUDIO mapping pain in the ass trash!

  • it's a cheap way to give you key resistance so they feel weighted. You can buy more expensive controller or just play the heck out of the thing. The Korg, Roland, etc.. with realistic feel, 800 to 2500 US dollars, average for decent $1200. Buy a cheaper controller with less features and crappy feel if it really bothers you.

  • mate you just need to play it in! its new, keys are obviously gonna be sticky! mines is fine once used a few times!

  • Los chinos nos invaden... lentamente... impasibles...

    Algún día, toda nuestra tecnología se autodestruirá...

    ese día, los chinos ocuparán el planeta...

    Y ya será tarde, ya no habrá vuelta atrás...

    los chinos...

    cuidadín...

    con los chinos.

  • Its not really a problem. Before playing u just press down all the keys quickly.

    They tend to stick slightly if u dont use them.

    I wouldnt buy a new keyboard because of this issue.

  • Wow, my first gift for 2010... Massive price drop for Novation Remote 49 and 61 SL MKII. The 49 version is now 369.- € and the 61 is 449.- € Thank you NOVATION. Say good bye M-AUDIO. I will never buy a product from this company again.

  • the same does my edirol PCR! so it's not m-audio fault

  • @mariotardini I feel that neither the Edirol or the M-Audio should do this. I think it's just bad engineering that apparently has been implemented by more than one manufacturer.

  • I was literally days away from ordering the Axiom 61. Thanks for posting this. This also led me to the M-Audio forum where this is discussed. What a shame. This controllers feature set and price point are absolutely perfect for me. I think I'll stick with (no pun intended) using my old Roland XP-30 as my MIDI controller.

  • I went with the Keystation 88 Pro

  • what the fuck?

  • Can you get an external power supply and hook it up to speakers or do you have to use a PC?

  • Had the same issue with my Oxygen, after some weeks it was gone :)

  • Do they stay like that???

  • im thinking about buying one of these, Is a 49 key good enough or should I get the 61?

  • Don't buy it before test it. I bought 2 Axiom 61 and I had the same problem, it's very annoying.

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  • Same problem here!

  • mine works just fine...

  • There is no problem here. It's justlike a new pair of shoes. You need to break it in beofre it's comfortable to use.

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  • That was the sound of him moving the camera. I had one and had the same problem.

  • just got an axiom 61 today and they are nothing like that, stop spilling stuff on the keyboard

  • no problems here....

  • @StrosB4Hos oh my 4th pad went out. i get no feedback.. but i got me an MPD18 anyway so i dont use the axiom pads... just the keys..

  • what about the new axiom pro.

  • What about the Akai 61 key MIDI Controller, has anyone tried that....I'm thinking of possibly getting one because something is wrong with my Axiom:( I'm already getting refunded but I need to know what to get next so that I don't have to deal with the same problem. What about the new 88 Key?

  • I have that keyboard...but not that problem. send it back

  • Wow that sucks!! I've owned the 25 and the 49 and both with no prblems and for about 4 years now. You got a bad one obviously - can you take it back?

  • Hi guys U'r so right! I very regret choosing cheap Axiom61. Reasons:(1)STICKY keys! (2)all the interstices(the space between each two keys)are not the same!(3)the corners of white keys are a bit sharp! (4)the LED screen is too easy to break down! It happened under my year warranty and the shipping fee for this oversize pack made me crazy!!! I'm not buying cheap China-Made shit anymore=__="

  • well then... what else to buy with the same features and similar pirce?

  • I'll be honest, out of all the MIDI controllers I have used my Axiom 1 is the best ever.

    That includes using a Yamaha CVP electric piano for a while.

  • I really wanted to like the Axiom and was about to get the Pro version, until I heard of this. So it's Novation for me!

  • which one? :)

  • novation nocturn49.

    super awesome stuff. okay so it doesnt have weighted keys but it works

  • i got the axiom 61 back in july '09 and it's now october, and the keys are STILL STICKY! on top of that, now my computer doesn't recognize it, and i'm getting the blank "blue screen of death" when i power it on. I'm still under my year warranty (because I bought it from an authorized dealer) but m-audio is making me pay shipping to CA from CT, and it's like $27 from fed ex. gonna take a week to ship, 1 to 2 weeks to fix, and probably another week to ship back. many problems, but a great board

  • OMG i got the blue screen of death too and I bought the axiom 61 yesterday... WHY??? I treated this keyboard like a princess what can I do to solve this problem, they must to send me another keyboard or something else??? I though I was the only man with this problem :S it reminds me the circle of death in Xbox 360 just a lame product KIDS PLEASE AVOID M-AUDIO PRODUCTS THEY SUX >:(

  • @VFutureTV \\This is the SUCKIEST controller ever! I had HUGE problems with the 61 key unit. I DO NOT recommend this controller to anyone! M-AUDIO Sucks!

  • @LittleNegrilio AMEN TO THAT!!! M-Audio SUX LIKE HELL!!! I can't believe it... there is too much blah blah blah about m-audio products... m-audio is really bad they are wasting all the money in advertising instead the development of better products D: It's incredible how bad can be some products on the market I will never buy M-audio again in my entire life D:

  • @LittleNegrilio then wat the fuck do u suggest? all people do is complain and never make any positive suggestions. seems like there really isnt any good controller unless u shell out thousands.

  • its sounds like this because its brand new and it of course it feels sticky. but give it some time and then you`ll get some dirt in between and that`s gonna give it a beeter feel. haha or take the axiom iapart and put some padding in betwwen the keys and the housing

  • Got the Pro version, and I must say the keys are almost fantastic, they do stick at first but its more like your second pass, and after I've pressed all my keys then its non-existant, so they have improved it . I'm very happy with it!

  • mine doesnt do that, weird

  • Whowwa???? just realised you cheated man :-( I'm cross at you, listen to the background noise levels when you press the keys, youve amplified it & muted the inbetween parts LMAO

    fake