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@AdzeHD unfortunatly i know no terrorist was capable of this only the israeli mossad, im saying how could anyone be stupid enough to believe a hollow plane can pierce armor
@Tigersfan829 since that steel is as strong as armor and depleted uranium has to travel at speeds of mach 3 to penetrate steel and a plane is aluminum and hollow and is flying at mach .3 yes its hard to believe
@Tigersfan829 ands its not that i cant believe it managed to make a hole but to achieve full penetration when a 1 meter tall steel bollard can stop a 50 ton truck no problem with no penetration whatsoever
@poznanski666 well the max weight of a boeing 747 is 187 thousand pounds so that multiplied by the speed of the plane = a huge ass force which a building is not designed to handle
@Tigersfan829 it was designed to take 13000tons of force actually youre not understanding that the plane is simply a huge empty aluminum can being smashed into solid steel and a c130 crashed into a building in iran that wasnt steel reinforced and no penetration whastsover
To the friends of A & E. No university, its faculties, engineering associations and architects supports the conspiracy of A & E. The same in Asia, Oceania, Canada, Europe and South America. The list below is today. I have the link of all. Always find more on the internet. There evidence against the towers and WTC7. Only 0.001% of U.S. engineers are in A & E. Without the universities, the A & E will never convince the U.S. Congress to reopen anything. The conspiracy was born defeated.
I present the list of universities, associations of engineers and architects to certify the U.S. lies in A&E.There are also in Europe,Asia,Oceania,Canada and South America.This list always grows because there is no academic support for A&E.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT),
Conselho Nacional das Associações de Engenheiros estruturais (NCSEA),
Conselho Americano de empresas de engenharia (CASE),
How come the plane penetrates right throgh and then wrecks the steel core columns while at the pentagon the wings cant even break a window and leave no wreckage?
@zenoist2 Good point, the steel used in the structures was also covered in flameproof material of some sort, while some says that they got weakend by the heat BUT, in tests of the steel used in the buildings showed that the steel could handle tempratures up to 3000degrees, 1000degrees more then the planefuel burns at! Im not saying that the us goverment did this nor that terrorists did it. There is something really strange going on with this crap....
AT least I am asking questions, All you can do is bend over and take it like a good soldie and throw out a web site to do your dirty work for you. What are you afraid of? I think I'm hearing the sound of a chicken. Let's intellectually dance bro! Give it your best because this Tango will be short and self satisfying. Give me your best arguement that you are right and I am wrong and try to refraim from 3rd grade bantar if you can.
So your telling me that the planes that hit the towers took down buildings that were made to withstand multiple hits from then biggest aircraft 707 which is comparable in size to the plane that hit..... And tell me that the most of th jet fuel which clearly seen in the footage blew up outside of the towers created hell fires that soften the metal.... Yet there is more footage showing a woman waving in the site of impact, now your gonna tell me it was so hot it bent steel but a human is unharmed?
I'm sorry but the 767 is anything but lightweight. The smallest of the 767's has an unloaded weight of over 176,000 lbs. Its max take off wieght is over 300,000 lbs. You also seem to be under the impression that because the plane is made using aluminium, it has the structural integrety of a beer can. Not so. Aluminium alloys can be nearly as hard as steel but at a lighter weight. Combine the speed of the plane and its mass, well there is alot of damage for you.
56 dislikes, amazing. Purdue spends lots of time using its experts and spending money and effort making an -accurate as possible- simulation, and the 'truthers' look at it and are like 'nah, doesn't look right to me- watch this grainy youtube video instead, then you'll see!'. Truly mind- boggling.
@TheScottybobear Nope. You can go look it up yourself how and why it was coined. Must suck to get owned on a term you yourself suggested LOL.
Like all conspiracy nuts, you have an inane desire to feel superior to others by believing you "decoded" some conspiracy, when in reality, you're just a nut who believes everything he reads on the internet.
@tjohn1986 Trust me, you make it very easy to be superior. Saying "twoofer" is a childish term and not original.
People like you would rather lump this discussion or debate with every other conspiracy and throw Ad homs because you lack the ability to have a open and honest debate with facts. Keep trying to put that square into a circle to make it fit. Even todlers can do this easy task.
@zenoist2 Hmmm... I dunno. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the WTC was essentially a 'thin' glass and steel shell vs the Pentagon which is essentially a stone fortress? Could that be it?
@timsteryt yes the pentagon was stronger but the wings here severing the solid steel core columns should at least be able to smash glass windows where they hit.
And the wtcs were not a shell.
the steel core columns were incredibly tough.
They were specifically designed to withstand multiple plane impacts/
The designers had envisioned a plane crash and built them to withstand it.
In the weeks after 9/11, the news media told us that the towers fell down because the jet fuel fires had melted the structural steel. This was absolutely ridiculous. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel. But there was molten steel in the debris pile. So what caused the molten steel, and why do officials find it necessary to lie about it?
but this is not right CUZ THE NOSE CONE CAME OUT THE OTHER SIDE IN TACT. not just pieces. watch proof of laser weapons at wtc(or something like that) that has a good explination on why
Yeah man, that was it! One of the most respected universities is in on the conspiracy. You're a fucking genius! All evidence that opposes your view is invalid by default. You're a moron. Opps, I meant genius.
@MisinfoDebunker You do realize, these are the same clowns that made the same type of animation about the Pentagon, don't you?
You know, where they claim it was the fuel doing most of the damage. While showing the (Aluminum)fuselage going through the building, creating the "Hole".
Mean while, the Engines(with Titanium parts and much more mass) just disappear when they hit the building.
Like I already said...
It's just a little common sense, and not being blind as a bat.
They didn't. The engines were FOUND in debris. Look at the pictures. Oh, I forgot. Conspiracy theorists deny any and all picture evidence of plane debris at the Pentagon. Any evidence against their inane claims are null and void, got it.
Think about a building made of straws, the plane hit near the top, fire heats up the straws, the straws begin to weaken, they weight from the above floors pushes down on them, all that weight and sudden momentum does the same to the floor below the impact, more weight and momentum builds with each floor and the building compresses faster and faster all the way down. It's a VERY simple concept and that's what happened.
@youstupidmoron but the official story and attempts to match the fire allows for no heat conductivity at all in the case of the building 7 video that has been pulled
Its very simple that metal does conduct heat..
Nist had to assume no conductivity and ridiculous temperatures to get the buildings to collapse in computer simulations using fire only as the explanation.. The only thing they proved was Fire was NOT responsible.
I cannot claim who did this but watch this animation again and in the numerous times it hits the tower think about the game Jenga. What you have in essence is a new jenga build with all its structural integrity in place. If you simulate the point of contact, angle, with the speed of the object it is highly unlikely that even the higher blocks will fall let alone lower. Furthermore, it is even less likely since it took out the middle and not the edge. But I do not know.
I'm glad you finally admitted you were wrong lenn! Congratulations for not being a truther anymore! What was it that finally got you to admit you were wrong about 9/11 being an "inside job"? Was it all the lies you fell for, lies like no wreckage being found at the Pentagon, or was it all the lies about the engines not being found? Was it the fact that all truthers stories have been proven a lie? Either way, congrats lenn!
@youstupidmoron the truthers who actually do their homework have raised very important questions, that are not being considered.
there is still nobody talking about all the bombs that went off in the towers, yet in a lot of news reports, you can hear them going off. firefighters reported hearing them, a janitor that worked in the towers reported helping a victim of one of these explosions before the planes even hit. look up "Kenneth Johannemann" he's the WTC janitor.
@DuffMan6I7 there weren't any "bombs" going off, if you had done any actual "research" you would know that explosions are common in building fires. No one heard bombs. Truthers haven't raised any good questions, they only make unsupportable accusations based on ignorance and gullibility.
@youstupidmoron here are 3 youtube videos. if these explosions aren't bombs what could they be? notice the firefighter confirms that there were "secondary explosions".
William Rodrigez talks about explosions before the first plane hit.
/watch?v=DIC0Kl4TKoU
firefighters recovering from an explosion in the lobby of the 2nd(i think) tower.
/watch?v=IO1ps1mzU8o&NR=1
cell phone video(?) of a large explosion heard close by.
@DuffMan6I7 Explosions happen all the time in building fires, from water tanks being heated to failure, to explosive gasses building up from lots of burning objects. As material in plastic, carpet, wood, etc. Heat up they emit explosive gasses that build up until a heat or ignition source is found and they explode. Listen to a controlled demo, even from 1/2 mile you can clearly hear hundreds of sequential explosions going off, no such explosions took place at the WTC, not even close!
@DuffMan6I7 "secondary explosion" does NOT mean bombs. There was no damage in the lower floors, people were still evacuating, if bombs were going off, people would have been killed. There are ZERO videos showing any controlled explosives. Controlled demolitions are EASILY recognized by the sounds and appearance of Hundreds of explosives going off, no such event happened anywhere near the WTC. There's no video that you can hear hundreds of explosives going off like is in ALL cont. demo. videos!
@youstupidmoron look, i wasn't there, but people who were there (before any conspiracy theories started) reported all of these explosions (alot of which happened in the basement)
the part that I don't like about this, is that our government says that there were no bombs. google barry jennings if you haven't heard of him. an explosion inside WTC 7 blew him and a co-worker back up a flight of stairs.
@DuffMan6I7 You can watch truther "bomb" videos all day if you want, it's not going to change the fact that no bombs went off in ANY of the buildings. There isn't the SLIGHTEST reason to even imagine any bombs went off. The building did NOT blow up. Explosions are absolutely common in building fires, go talk to a fireman instead of watching idiotic truther videos.
@youstupidmoron they aren't "truther" bomb videos, they are videos that show evidence of large explosions occuring in the area. yes, secondary explosions can happen when flammable material is ignited quickly, but these explosions could be heard across the hudson river, and all through manhattan. those were huge.
the 9/11 commission said that nobody died in WTC 7, Barry jennings reported to the news (on sept 11th) that an explosion occurred in WTC 7, he stepped over BODIES in the lobby escaping.
@DuffMan6I7 the truth is out there, but if we just keep arguing amongst ourselves we can't find the real answer. the whole day has a lot of strange coincidences, but it is not getting the attention it deserves because professionals are afraid to stake their reputation on anything that says "9/11 conspiracy". this is america, the first amendment protects FREE SPEECH. this means "truthers", along with every other form of "unpopular speech". POPULAR speech does not need to be defended.
@wafelonia Wrong, first off the only boxes that weren't found were those at the WTC, no one ever expected they would be found anyway, you may not have noticed this but two massive buildings collapsed with the planes inside them. Black boxes are not ALWAYS found and they are not always found in usable condition! There are numerous occasions when boxes have been totally destroyed. You need to get your info from places other than YouTube truther videos and truther websites.
@DuffMan6I7 Watch controlled demolition videos, they are always video taped from at least 1/2 mile away, in all of them you can hear hundreds if not thousands of sequential, repetitive explosives going off, it's a very distinct sound. Watch any WTC video, there are many that were taped right next to the towers, NONE of them have any of the repetitive explosions you would hear in a controlled demo, not even close! The towers would have been the biggest ever, there would have been THOUSANDS!
@DuffMan6I7 Again, I don't care if you watch truther "bomb" videos all day, it's not going to change the fact that no bombs were present anywhere near the WTC. I'm still waiting for idiotic truthers to supply video that shows the THOUSANDS of explosions that would have been present if there was a "controlled demo", truthers can't come up with ANY. listen to video of controlled demolitions, then listen to 9/11 videos, you will notice the complete lack of any such explosions. It's over, no bombs.
@youstupidmoron so if you believe that "al-qaida" planned these attacks, jet fuel and fire brought down these building, and "al-qaida" attacked the USA because they hate our freedom and are muslim extremists, well than you my friend was told by the government.
@LittleRicky63 What's truly hysterical is you want to be a defense attorney and you believe there is a "new world order"! You're gullible enough to fall for 9/11 "inside job" myths! You will make a HORRIBLE attorney! You have the reasoning skills of a mentally handicapped ten year old! You're not even smart enough to see through all the idiotic and impossible claims made up by truthers! It really is hilarious! Some day when or IF you ever mature, I hope you do so before you destroy someones life
@youstupidmoron its funny how you think you know what everyone is going to be. you are 100% wrong that you think i want to be a pussy ass attorney like you. and another funny think is that witnesses, police officers, and firefighters heard bombs going off. And about the New World Order thing. Go talk to George Bush about that. He said he wants a new world order in his speech in september 11, 1990. oh, and david rokerfeller wants a one world government. your witnesses a fakes like you dumb prick.
@LittleRicky63 you're an idiot! Bush wasn't talking about "the new world order"! You really need to not listen to idiots who tell you things and quote people out of context! No one said they heard "bombs" going off, people said they heard explosions, explosions are COMMON in building fires, if you had truly educated yourself you would have known that! that's the problem with you naive, ignorant little boys, you hate authority and are willing to believe anything against any authority! Grow up
@LittleRicky63 You little kids, you always result to using foul language, you're so immature that you can't make a comment without cussing like trailer trash! You will be a failure in everything if you listen to moron liars like your hero Alex the terrorist Jones. You may want to look into your buddies history before believing anything the guy says. Did you know he claimed the Soviets had launched ICBMs at the US? he also says the govt uses satellites to follow gun buyers and give them AIDs!
@LittleRicky63 I have spoken to firefighters, police, paramedics, and civillians that were there, none of them heard ANY bombs, none of them heard ANY explosions associated with controlled demolition! You really need to look through all the garbage you hear in truther videos and websites, if you had you would realize that there isn't a single piece of evidence to support ANY of the claims made by idiotic, lying truthers! There was no "inside job" in any way. NOTHING supports truther lies.
@LittleRicky63 If you actually had any common sense you would realize it would have been impossible for anyone to rig both towers or seven for a controlled demo, there is no way they could have gutted both towers, cut thousands of critical supports, planted thousands of pounds of explosives, ran miles of det cord, replaced all the wallboard with new, taped and textured it all, painted, etc. all without anyone seeing or even one person saying a word. It could have NEVER happened. Grow up.
@LittleRicky63 If you had bothered to look at videos of controlled demos you would know they consist of thousands of consecutive explosions that can be heard miles away, they also show thousands of explosions going off and start at the bottom. There weren't ANY sounds of explosions going off in ANY of the hundreds of videos taken that day, there weren't any visual indications either. You WANT so badly to believe in lies that you refuse to even check out the claims made by truthers. Grow up
@LittleRicky63 You poor attorney wanna be, I got all my information and formed my oppinion by speaking to experts, witnesses and the use of my own experience and education. You got you're idiotic myths from people who haven't a clue how a building is even constructed, people who watch idiotic truther videos full of myth, lies and absolute impossibilities. You have absolutely ZERO common sense or the life experience to deduce what is possible and what is absolute myth. Grow up little boy.
It's astonishing that anyone could even consider the massive list of exacting details would have to take place without error to pull off what truthers claim, the amount of people that would have to be involved and be trusted to never feel guilt or feel betrayed and want to confess, even anonymously. The families of the passengers, firemen, demo techs, pilots, construction workers, etc., etc. It could NEVER happen. It's idiotic to think it could.
You keep saying "prove it", where have you been the last ten years? Have you been living in a cave? It's been proven over and over! You are a perfect example of a lying truther, you are the reason other ignorant people even consider idiotic "inside job" myths. Look how many of your claims you now know were lies! Len, it's over, you have nothing to support any truther myth. Time to grow up Len.
There is a massive amount of evidence to support the terrorist attacks, you can follow almost every step the hijackers took in the years leading up to it! Their flight training, all the readily available receipts from their payments, even the receipts from their plane tickets, that by the way you lied about! Cameras in the airport even caught them boarding the planes! You will of course lie and say they didn't! That's how truthers work. They lie.
Len, you haven't come up with any evidence, in fact, if you presented everything you've come up with here to a judge he would laugh you out of the court house! All your claims are nothing but myth, gossip and flat out lies. A judge may even slap you with contempt! I caught you in several lies! How old are you? from the fits you throw and the way you lie I would guess you to be 15 at most!
The ONLY admissible evidence relative to passengers is the official autopsy report. A 'passenger list' can be typed up by anyone at any time; ergo a JUDGE will not admit in court. The only OFFICIAL EVIDENCE re Passengers is the AUTOPSY report. THERE ARE NO ARABS ON THE LIST. Ergo THERE IS NO EVIDENCE that any hijacker ever got on board 77.
@lennhart You must be getting very desperate after I destroyed all your claims, now you're trying to use Rumsfelds quote that was misquoted! He said "Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center." It is absolutely obvious it should have read "an American airlines flight filled with our citizens AS the missile". You "lened" again!
@lennhart there was an abundant amount of flight 77 recovered at the Pentagon, your claim that none was found is an absolute lie. The landing gear, seats, one engine was found outside and parts of the other inside. Parts of the cockpit control panel, skin and structural parts of the plane including a large section of the tail. You can easiily see the photos of the wreckage all over the internet, look it up unless you're to lazy or more probable, you dont want to see it!
The ONLY debris that was found at the pentagon was loaded up on a crate and hauled off by some yuppy types. There is SIMPLY no way that about four to six skinny guys can haul off the TONS of wreckage that is left behind from an airliner crash. I have witnesses and over professionally numerous airliner crashes. There was NO wrecakge traceable to a 757 to be found at the pent. If you think otherwise, PROVE IT!
Tthe landing gear alone was NOT picked up by "four to six skinny guys". The engine found outside could not be picked up by your skinny guys either! Seeing the wreckage is a very simple thing to do, just google "flight 77 wreckage" you will see actual photos of the compressor fan that matches the the Rolls Royce engine perfectly, even the rims used on the landing gear are EASILY identified as that of flight 77. I know its difficult to face the fact that you're wrong, you must be humiliated
I'm taking my beautiful wife out to dinner, I will let you think about all the facts that you got wrong so far. I will continue your education when I return. Try to understand that all the things you got wrong so far may mean something, it means you need to stop making assumptions and stop getting your info from truther websites. Class resumes in a few hours.
Again --the ONLY newspaper I cited was the Washington Post and --in fact --the POST ITSELF referenced official, admissible sources for its story. Doesn't matter! There is still no prove that 1) hani got on the flight 2) walked through the closed door 3) and there is NO proof that he was ever killed. There is NO BODY!!!! There was NO AUTOPSY of arabs. NO ARAB names! ERGO ---there is no proof of any type that any arab ever got on ANY of the said flights at any time. ,
@lennhart Show me where the "Official report" says there was no wreckage of flight 77? Show me where it says Hani had no ticket? You keep claiming that its "official" but there isnt ANY government report that supports ANY of your claims. You need to stop reading truther website and watching youtube videos, they are far from reliable resources. Your sources said the engines were 15 feet in diameter! That is an absolute lie as well! You didnt get that info from any "official source" either!
Len, both engines were found, one outside and parts of the other inside. The fan (not a rotor by the way) had is blades knocked off, the photos of it clearly show the broken blades. And again Len, the same sensor said the door hadn't been opened on the previous 11 flights. Do you really think the pilots never went pee, entered or exited the cockpit, had a meal brought in? It's obvious the sensor was bad. You "lened" again!
Again --NTSB data (official and admissible in court) put 77 at at alt of 271 ft,some 200 ft ABOVE the pent at the time of the crash. Last time I checked with my old physics prof, material objects larger than sub-atomc particles CANNOT be in two places at the same time. ERGO the official conspiracy theory of 911 is UTTER AND TREASONOUS bullshit!
Let's go over this again1) D.R. sez a missle struck 'this building'. 2) NTSB data says 77 NEVER dropped below 271 ft. Pentaon is only some 71 ft tall. 3) ONLY ONE rotor was found; a 757 has TWO rotors, count 'em!
You really need to read reliable sources and actually finish reading the entire subject, dont stop reading a paragraph as soon as you see what you WANT to see! Look how many times that has embarrassed you so far! Look how many facts you have been wrong about in just the last 24 hours! You may want to start questioning your sources and your own ability to understand the evidence before you, you're not doing so good. Maybe you have a health issue that prevents you from using common sense!
@youstupidmoron DUDE are you saying that I should NOT believe the ONLY EVIDENCE that would be admissilbe in court? LOL LOL LOL You are an idiot. the info I cited is official, govt data from govt agencies, But being an idiot as you are, that fact is LOST ON YOU. How old are you? 12? Have you never gone to school? Do you know what the word 'official' means? Do you know what the term 'admissible evidence' means?
I am not wrong about the engine rotors and---in any case --AIRLINERS have TWO pretty larger rotors. ONLY ONE rotor was found and it was very small, about the same size at the one found in a U.S. Global HAWK. Hey ---it was DON RUMSFELD himself who said that a MISSILE struck the pentagon. I heard him say that. that was before he got the memo LOL LOL LOL
We are expected to believe that a man who cannot even be proven to have been on the flight, walked through a closed door and, piloted a plane which he most certainly COULD NOT have piloted yet crashed it into a building while showing an altitude some 200 ft ABOVE the pent at the time of the allege crash!!! LOL LOL LOL Ludicrous! ONLY MORONS BELIEVE THIS SHIT!
You were wrong about the ticket, the engines diameter, the engines and plane wreckage being found, you're wrong about the door, at least you can't figure out that it must have had a bad sensor because it also said the door been opened on the previous eleven flights. Len, you are not a very bright person! After each of your failures you try to change your story, it's not going to work. You failed, I mean you "lened". It's over Len. Your assumptions are nothing but silly.
Hey shill --how old are you? 15? You know NOTHING of the rules of evidence? Do you? Admit it? merely contradicting me or calling me names doesn't put a single arab on that plane. There is NO evidence that there were ANY ARABS on any of the fligths at any time. If you think otherwise prove it. Show me
All your claims have been destroyed, you make up stories! Just like when you tried to tell people the fans are 15' in diameter instead of the actual 6', you claimed Hani had no ticket because you read it in a newspaper! Hilarious! I told you where he bought his ticket, call them! All your claims are silly and full of assumptions! You failed! From now on I'm going to refer to stupidity as a "Len" as for the door, as I said the sensor says it wasn't opened on the previous 11 flights, think Len
Donald Rumsfeld is on TAPE talking about a MISSILE that hit the PENTAGON. Now --I would like to know precisely WHICH missile it was. Bush ordered the wreckage destroyed. That IS --in itself--the crimes of FELONY DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE and obstruction of justice. As they are related 911, these acts are also evidence of HIGH TREASON!
There is NO EVIDENCE that 1) hani had a tickert 2) no evidence that he walked through a closed door 3) no evidence that 77 dropped below 271 ft 4) there are no arabs among the dead as evidenced by the official autopsy report 5) there are NO records of any Arabs being interred. None! Basically, youstupidmoron you have SHIT FOR BRAINS and merely ignore the stuff you dont't like.You stupid and pig headed and I never liked asswipes like you anyway. Fuck off
Hani did have a ticket, I told you where he bought, call them yourself. An overwhelming amount of 77 was recovered, including one engine outside, parts of the other inside, the landing gear, seats, luggage and lots of skin, stringers and formers of the wings and fuselage. The door sensor also said the door hadn't been opened on the previous 11 flights, obviously there's a bad sensor. You poor Len!
Poor len! You get so upset when you're proven wrong! Instead of throwing fits you should take it like an adult. I know it's hard for you poor truthers, all your claims have been destroyed over and over again, it must be hard being humiliated on a daily basis! Go cry in a corner instead of throwing your fits in public, your embarrassing yourself.
@youstupidmoron I am not upset nor am I proven wrong. What PRECISELY do you think you proved? LOL Show me the wreckage! Show me arab names on an autopsy report! Explain that. And conveniently, you still ignore the OFFICIAL GOVT RECORD which states that the cockpit door NEVER opened during flight. You must think DAVID COPPERFIELD really did walk through the treat wall of china. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Simply --the Bush 911 LIE proven with the government's on records to be UTTERLY FUCKIING IMPOSSIBLE.Now --when you have ELIMINATED the impossible what remains must be the truth. 911 was an inside job.There is, then, what jurists call PROBABLE CAUSE to being an investigation of Bush and everyone else who had METHOD, MOTIVE and OPPTY. There is PROBABLE CAUSE to INDICT GWB for the crimes of mass murder and high treason.
I have listed numerous HOLES in the Bush fucking lie re: 911. Any ONE of them shoots down the whole theory. But --in fact ---ALL of the sources I cited are OFFICIAL sources save 2: the Washing Post which cited AA records. 2) the OFFICIAL AUTOPSY report which was released to DR. OLMSTED in response to his FEDERAL OFFICIAL INFORMATION ACT request!
It was the Washington POST which cited AA to the effect that HANI HANJOUR did NOT have a ticket. So --you think he did a DAVID COPPERFIELD and walked through what NTSB sez was a closed door, then WHERE is the official proof? Where is his name on the ONLY OFFICIAL LIST of DEAD re: 77, i.,e the AUTOPSY REPORT. Clue: HANI is NOT on the list because neither he NOR the other alleged hijackers were EVER on the flight; that is consistent with the FACT that no wreckage from 77 was EVER recovered
Another point --ONLY FUCKING MORONS believe the Bush conspiracy theory involving Ali Baba (Bin Laden) and his 40 (19) Thieves (Hijackers) The Bush theory is not even original. It was STOLEN from 1001 Arabian Nights. LOL LOL LOL GOP crooks should have hired better screenwriters from the Writers Guild of America in Hollywood. They would have --at least ---come with a more realistic movie plot!
Let's get something else straight! The ONLY persons posting 'conspiracy theories' here are the Bush kissups who believe the official conspiracy theory. I have NO THEORY at all. All I have are FACTS ---verifiable and OFFICIAL GOVT RECORDS that prove that the conspiracy theorists who believe that a CONSPIRACY of 19 hijackers pulled off 911 is a TOTAL FUCKING CROCK OF SHIT! Not even a good movie script.
In both law and debate --the dictum is: THOSE WHO ASSERT MUST PROVE. So --you 911 liars, if you wish me to believe this fable, this fairy tale, this bald faced fuckin lie, this sack of shit ---PROVE IT. Or --of shut the fuck up! Off yourself! That might work. Basically, you have supported your fragile egos with a pack of lies. I feel sorry for ya...(not really) LOL
Aluminum will easily break your little knife blade, there was no "vaporized or melted" steel anywhere near the WTC or the Pentagon, both engines were found at the Pentagon, the engines were Not 15 feet or even "about 15 feet in diameter", they were 6 feet. Titanium shatters easily, it's a very hard alloy. Kerosene absolutely burns hot enough to weaken steel, specially with hundreds of thousands of tons pressing down on it. Face it, you are wrong about all your claims. It's over, you failed.
All you can do is try to change the subject, explain why you are lying about the engines and the compressors and the fans? Why are you lying about steel not being weakened by kerosene? Since you have been caught lying about those issues, nothing you say can be believed. Once you realize you're wrong about those, then we can take care of your other myths.
"steel is steel", Uh, no it isn't! Every alloy is different, each alloy has different characteristics and performs different, the steel in your Swiss Army knife is nothing like steel used in construction. As for the engines that you know nothing about, I can't believe you actually thought they were 15 feet in diameter! Anyway, both of them were found at the Pentagon you silly kid! You are very slow.
Another problem with wing nuts ---they always try to change the subject when their sorry asses have been whipped. The moron posting here has IGNORED the following: 1) show me wreckage traceable to a 757 at the pent 2) prove to me that AL has EVER penetrated hardened steel (show me a peer-reviewed paper) 3) EXPLAIN how Hani got on board without a ticket 4) how did 77 strike the pent when both AA and BTS says 77 did NOT fly on 911.
@lennhart Lets move on, Hani Hanjour purchased his ticket for American Airlines flight 77 from ATS Advanced Travel Services in Totowa, New Jersey on august 31 in his own name. You can call them yourself if you would like. As for your little ditty about the cockpit door not being opened during the flight, theres a big problem, the same data shows the same door hadnt been opened on the previous 11 flights! I guess those pilots never pee, they were never brought a meal and never left the cockpit!
@lennhart Why dont you explain why the cockpit door sensor showed the door hadnt been opened on not only that flight but the previous 11 flights? Golly gee, I wonder if mybe there was an issue with the door sensor! No, couldnt be! Those airline pilots never have to pee! They never leave the cockpit at all! There goes another of your myths. You already destroyed your credibility on all your other claims, lets keep it up! You hear a myth and dont check out the facts, you assume! You fail.
@lennhart Why do you truthers always claim that it was a "global hawk"? Not one witness ever said anything about a Global Hawk, in fact they ALL said they saw the plane! Why do you keep talking about the engines when its already been established that one was found outside and the other inside? What about the claim that the engines were 15 feet in diameter? You were wrong about that one, I guess you couldnt be wrong about the others! You only hear what you WANT to hear, you never check the facts
@youstupidmoron It was DONALD RUMSELD, who was at the time the SECRETARY OF DEFENSE who referred clarly to '.....THE MISSILE THAT CRASHED INTO THIS BUILDLING": It's in the public record. Look it up! Now --if Bush had NOT OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE (A FEDERAL CRIME, LOOK IT UP) then the SINGLE ROTOR that was found could have been traced. CLUE: airliners have TWO rotors and they are much bigger. A U.S. GLOBAL HAWK ---a missile by Rummie reckoning --has only one! Only ONE was ever found at the Pentagon.
You actually WANT to believe flight 77 didnt fly that day but in the same comment you claim that the cockpit door was never opened. Then theres the fact that it was a daily flight, it flew on all the days previous and was scheduled for the day after but you claim it didnt fly on 9/11! Hilarious! You only hear what you WANT to hear, you never check out anything, you read a story, get to the part thats about to explain the issue and you stop reading! Its the way of the truther. You failed again.
@youstupidmoron You can read minds?? LOL You're an idiot! If you believe 77 struck the pentagon, then fucking prove it and shut the fuck up! You're just pissed because you can't.1) show me TWO engine rotor traceable to ANY 757 (that's a start) 2) show me ARAB NAMES on the OFFICIAL AUTOPSY REPORT! 3) explain to me HOW Hani walked through a closed door! (OFFICIAL NTSB DATA proves the cockpet door NEVER opened during any part of the flight) 4) Explain GOVT BTS data which says 77 DID NOT EVEN FLY!
@youstupidmoron YOU IDIOT ---I did NOT claim that the cockpit door never opened. |It was the FUCKING GOVERNMENT SOURCE that I cited ----NTSB that published that information which is in the PUBLIC FUCKING RECORD! READ IT ..and shut the fuck up! DO YOU KNOW WHAT N.T.S.B. stands for??? No ---of course not, you moron! It stands for: NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD! It is a federal fucking agency! Numbnuts! ERGO: FED GOVT ITSELF SAYS THE COCKPIT DOOR (FLT 77) NEVER OPENED DURING FLIGHT
Only ONE rotor means that a 757 could NOT have crashed the Pent. Secondly, no HANI in the cockpit means Bush lied. Thirdly --no ticket, no Hani! Bushco bites the dust.
@youstupidmoron prove it! Steel is steel! Look it up at M.I.T. Do the experiment, Write it up and get back with me you idiot! By the way, I carry a swiss army knife. It will NOT vaporize or melt in a kerosene fire. By the way, AL will not even scratch my blades. LOL I tried it! You moron!
Anyone wishing me to believe the Bush bullshit cover story re: 911 MUST explain to me why the BTS says that flt 11 DID NOT EVEN fly on 911. Explain that!
"about"? There is a big difference between 15 feet and the actual size of 6 feet! You really don't know what your talking about! You're not even aware that the blades were all knocked off of the compressor! Titanium is a very brittle metal, it can withstand heat but that makes it brittle as well, it can't take impact with hard objects. I can't believe you tried to lie and say the fans were 15 feet in diameter! Again, you keep destroying your own claims.
@youstupidmoron A big difference indeed! The rotor on a global hawk is ABOUT one third the size of TWO such rotors. Tell me ---show me a SECOND rotor of ANY SIZE! Unless you can do that, you're theory is bullshit. Show me a SECOND ROTOR.
Anyone wishing me to swallow the Bush lie re: 911 must explain to me HOW Hani Hanjour managed to walk through a closed door to the cockpit. See the NTSB data referenced earlier.
Anyone wishing me to believe the bush bullshit story must prove to me that Hani Hanjour got on board 77 though the Wash Post says he DID NOT have a ticket. Explain that --or shut up!
And while your digging through the wreckage which Bush ordered carted off and destroyed, show me TWO engine rotors. Since when did 757 start flying with only one engine? Explain that to me! Secondly, weigh the wreckage! Tell me what happened to all that debis! Wormhole! How did Hani get on board without a ticket? Tell me how Hani managed to walk through a closed door! Weigh the wreckage?
I almost feel sorry for you Lenhart! The fact that you spread nothing but lies and myth prevents me from having any sympathy for you. You choose to lie. You keep digging yourself in deeper. You really have no idea what your talking about. By the way, one engine was found outside, the other inside along with tha landing gear. Try to educate yourself before making a bigger fool of yourself. I have things to do, laugh at you some more later!
You really need to learn a little more about the Rolls Royce RB211 engine used on flight 77! It is NOT "15 feet in diameter", in fact the main fan is only 74" in diameter with the blades attached, the compressor is about 27". You are only destroying your case further by falling for myths. You should probably give up right about now. You don't even know the diameter of the engines! You failed AGAIN. This is hilarious!
@youstupidmoron I used the word 'ABOUT'. In any case, the GLOBAL HAWK engine is about one third the size of 757 rotors. Secondly, ONLY ONE rotor of any size was recovered from the Pentagon and last time I checked a 757 has TWO engines, a U.S. GLOBAL HAWK only one. Secondly, the ONLY rotor found was presumably hauled off by the white shirts. I don't think those guys could have handled one, let alone TWO 757 rotors.Show me a SECOND rotors ----of ANY size. Show me!
Next time get an AMERICAN to narrate the video. Not some filthy arab faggot
Reformfaggots 18 hours ago
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ozelot 1 week ago
MeggieKatieVLOG 1 month ago
how can anyone really be so stupid enough to believe this?
poznanski666 1 month ago
@poznanski666 you were stupid enough to believe it was terrorist
AdzeHD 1 month ago
@AdzeHD unfortunatly i know no terrorist was capable of this only the israeli mossad, im saying how could anyone be stupid enough to believe a hollow plane can pierce armor
poznanski666 1 month ago
@poznanski666 how hard do you think it is for a plane moving at probably 300 mph to make a hole in a building???
Tigersfan829 1 month ago
@Tigersfan829 since that steel is as strong as armor and depleted uranium has to travel at speeds of mach 3 to penetrate steel and a plane is aluminum and hollow and is flying at mach .3 yes its hard to believe
poznanski666 1 month ago
@Tigersfan829 ands its not that i cant believe it managed to make a hole but to achieve full penetration when a 1 meter tall steel bollard can stop a 50 ton truck no problem with no penetration whatsoever
poznanski666 1 month ago
@poznanski666 well the max weight of a boeing 747 is 187 thousand pounds so that multiplied by the speed of the plane = a huge ass force which a building is not designed to handle
Tigersfan829 4 weeks ago
@Tigersfan829 it was designed to take 13000tons of force actually youre not understanding that the plane is simply a huge empty aluminum can being smashed into solid steel and a c130 crashed into a building in iran that wasnt steel reinforced and no penetration whastsover
poznanski666 4 weeks ago
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To the friends of A & E. No university, its faculties, engineering associations and architects supports the conspiracy of A & E. The same in Asia, Oceania, Canada, Europe and South America. The list below is today. I have the link of all. Always find more on the internet. There evidence against the towers and WTC7. Only 0.001% of U.S. engineers are in A & E. Without the universities, the A & E will never convince the U.S. Congress to reopen anything. The conspiracy was born defeated.
aczjbr 2 months ago
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I present the list of universities, associations of engineers and architects to certify the U.S. lies in A&E.There are also in Europe,Asia,Oceania,Canada and South America.This list always grows because there is no academic support for A&E.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT),
Conselho Nacional das Associações de Engenheiros estruturais (NCSEA),
Conselho Americano de empresas de engenharia (CASE),
Estruturais Engineering Institute (SEI),
Northwestern University
aczjbr 2 months ago
Universidade Estadual de Nova York em Buffalo,
Universidade de Wisconsin-Green Bay,
Universidade de Perdue,
Sociedade Americana de Engenheiros Civis (ASCE),
American Institute of Architects (AIA),
Universidade de Arizona,
Universidade de Colorado,
Virginia Polytechnic Institute e State University,
State University of New York,
Da Universidade de Akron
aczjbr 2 months ago
Universidade de Illinois em Urbana-Champaign,
Universidade da Califórnia,
Academia Nacional de Engenharia,
Universidade da Pensilvânia,
Universidade de Maryland,
Stanford University,
Sociedade de Engenheiros de Proteção Contra Incêndio (SFPE),
Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Massachusetts,
American Institute of Steel Construction Inc, Chicago (AISC)
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aczjbr 2 months ago
Pure bullshit.
How come the plane penetrates right throgh and then wrecks the steel core columns while at the pentagon the wings cant even break a window and leave no wreckage?
zenoist2 3 months ago
@zenoist2 Good point, the steel used in the structures was also covered in flameproof material of some sort, while some says that they got weakend by the heat BUT, in tests of the steel used in the buildings showed that the steel could handle tempratures up to 3000degrees, 1000degrees more then the planefuel burns at! Im not saying that the us goverment did this nor that terrorists did it. There is something really strange going on with this crap....
Beqpe 3 months ago
@zenoist2 a 7 ton steel supersonic soviet missile hit the pentagon thats how it pierced 6 concrete steel walls
poznanski666 1 month ago
ITS A GRAND THEFT AUTO GOOGLE EARTH MOD!!
WadddellStudios 5 months ago
uhh... wait. oh, it's still going, currently. so... i guess it had been on for a year, then
syahirSQRT2 5 months ago
this is the first video i noticed that has an argument going on in it's comments area that lasted for about... half a year!
syahirSQRT2 5 months ago
AT least I am asking questions, All you can do is bend over and take it like a good soldie and throw out a web site to do your dirty work for you. What are you afraid of? I think I'm hearing the sound of a chicken. Let's intellectually dance bro! Give it your best because this Tango will be short and self satisfying. Give me your best arguement that you are right and I am wrong and try to refraim from 3rd grade bantar if you can.
TheScottybobear 5 months ago
So your telling me that the planes that hit the towers took down buildings that were made to withstand multiple hits from then biggest aircraft 707 which is comparable in size to the plane that hit..... And tell me that the most of th jet fuel which clearly seen in the footage blew up outside of the towers created hell fires that soften the metal.... Yet there is more footage showing a woman waving in the site of impact, now your gonna tell me it was so hot it bent steel but a human is unharmed?
MrOblivionssin 6 months ago
very cool
Mr44cod 6 months ago
If this plane was so destructive how come it did fuck all at the pentagon?
its the same sort of plane and the same speed after all.
zenoist2 6 months ago
take a light weight aluminum hammer and hit as hard as you can against solid steel and what happens?
Not a lot the steel doesnt move
throw this hammer at 400mph and what happens?
it dents and warps when it contacts the steel,
It DOES NOT totally cut through it. as if the steel was thin air.
zenoist2 6 months ago
@zenoist2
I'm sorry but the 767 is anything but lightweight. The smallest of the 767's has an unloaded weight of over 176,000 lbs. Its max take off wieght is over 300,000 lbs. You also seem to be under the impression that because the plane is made using aluminium, it has the structural integrety of a beer can. Not so. Aluminium alloys can be nearly as hard as steel but at a lighter weight. Combine the speed of the plane and its mass, well there is alot of damage for you.
DedJester 6 months ago
56 dislikes, amazing. Purdue spends lots of time using its experts and spending money and effort making an -accurate as possible- simulation, and the 'truthers' look at it and are like 'nah, doesn't look right to me- watch this grainy youtube video instead, then you'll see!'. Truly mind- boggling.
2210ethan 6 months ago
Sooo many twoofers. Don't hate them, feel pity for them
Search - Psychology of conspiracy theorist.
tjohn1986 6 months ago
@tjohn1986 search cognitive dissonance disorder.
TheScottybobear 5 months ago
@TheScottybobear Cognitive dissonance was coined to explain the psychology of UFO and other conspiracy cultists including twoofers. LOL #FAIL
tjohn1986 5 months ago
@tjohn1986 You just proved my point. Cherry picking the definition to fit your understanding and belief.
TheScottybobear 5 months ago
@TheScottybobear Nope. You can go look it up yourself how and why it was coined. Must suck to get owned on a term you yourself suggested LOL.
Like all conspiracy nuts, you have an inane desire to feel superior to others by believing you "decoded" some conspiracy, when in reality, you're just a nut who believes everything he reads on the internet.
tjohn1986 5 months ago
@tjohn1986 Trust me, you make it very easy to be superior. Saying "twoofer" is a childish term and not original.
People like you would rather lump this discussion or debate with every other conspiracy and throw Ad homs because you lack the ability to have a open and honest debate with facts. Keep trying to put that square into a circle to make it fit. Even todlers can do this easy task.
TheScottybobear 5 months ago
@TheScottybobear Nope all your stupid questions are answered here: debunking911(dot)com
Knock yourself out twoofer.
tjohn1986 5 months ago
Can any debunker please explain why this plane is so inrcedibly destructive at the wtc but isnt at the pentagon?
zenoist2 7 months ago
Compare this to the pentagon where the same plane at the same speed never even broke a single window.
here it is happily destroying the steel core columns deep within the building.
Does anyone notice the difference?
zenoist2 7 months ago
@zenoist2 Hmmm... I dunno. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the WTC was essentially a 'thin' glass and steel shell vs the Pentagon which is essentially a stone fortress? Could that be it?
timsteryt 6 months ago
@timsteryt yes the pentagon was stronger but the wings here severing the solid steel core columns should at least be able to smash glass windows where they hit.
And the wtcs were not a shell.
the steel core columns were incredibly tough.
They were specifically designed to withstand multiple plane impacts/
The designers had envisioned a plane crash and built them to withstand it.
zenoist2 6 months ago
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a full investigation would answer all these questions of course.
but also of course the bush adminstration, wouldn't have allowed that. for the very same reasons.
this video, just makes purdue look bad.
but i guess they all get nice cushy gov't jobs after making this piece of crap.
charleskafka 7 months ago
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In the weeks after 9/11, the news media told us that the towers fell down because the jet fuel fires had melted the structural steel. This was absolutely ridiculous. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel. But there was molten steel in the debris pile. So what caused the molten steel, and why do officials find it necessary to lie about it?
See my video:
The 9/11 "Deep Mystery" and the Crazy Engineers
punxsutawneybarney 8 months ago
Bad information in and bad information out. Your data sources are crucial to any real scientific validity. Thank you.
VeganVannah 8 months ago
a fascnating cartoon
thisisyourwakeup 8 months ago
@thisisyourwakeup the xartoon might be funny, but your child abuse isn't.
Please folks, dont listen to this gay child rapist.
koertje 7 months ago
thumbs up if youre watching this in 2011!!!!!!
saboor123 9 months ago
but this is not right CUZ THE NOSE CONE CAME OUT THE OTHER SIDE IN TACT. not just pieces. watch proof of laser weapons at wtc(or something like that) that has a good explination on why
drifter402 9 months ago
damn
Kandiceblue16 9 months ago
A "state of the art" animation system. from when... 1963?
Let me guess, some moron at Purdue entered Aluminum for the Building and Titanium for the Plane.
What a Fucking Joke!
oOkcuSuoYOo 10 months ago
@oOkcuSuoYOo
Yeah man, that was it! One of the most respected universities is in on the conspiracy. You're a fucking genius! All evidence that opposes your view is invalid by default. You're a moron. Opps, I meant genius.
MisinfoDebunker 10 months ago
@MisinfoDebunker Well, they just lost all "respect" with this bs!
oOkcuSuoYOo 9 months ago
@oOkcuSuoYOo
Lol of course! You just debunked a university! You're so smart man!!!
MisinfoDebunker 9 months ago
@MisinfoDebunker TY, it just takes a little common sense. And of course, not being blind as a bat.
oOkcuSuoYOo 8 months ago
@MisinfoDebunker You do realize, these are the same clowns that made the same type of animation about the Pentagon, don't you?
You know, where they claim it was the fuel doing most of the damage. While showing the (Aluminum)fuselage going through the building, creating the "Hole".
Mean while, the Engines(with Titanium parts and much more mass) just disappear when they hit the building.
Like I already said...
It's just a little common sense, and not being blind as a bat.
oOkcuSuoYOo 8 months ago
@oOkcuSuoYOo
The material covering the engines aren't made of titanium but out of aluminum. The engine itself which was recovered in debris pictures, is titanium.
It's called having a small clue of what you're talking about.
MisinfoDebunker 8 months ago
@MisinfoDebunker I said "parts" dumbass.
So why did the "engines" themselves, just stop at the wall, instead of going through multiple walls like the Aluminum did?
Or were you trying to say that you are completely clueless?
oOkcuSuoYOo 8 months ago
@oOkcuSuoYOo
They didn't. The engines were FOUND in debris. Look at the pictures. Oh, I forgot. Conspiracy theorists deny any and all picture evidence of plane debris at the Pentagon. Any evidence against their inane claims are null and void, got it.
MisinfoDebunker 8 months ago
youstupidmoron is a stupid moron! nuff said.
oOkcuSuoYOo 10 months ago
I would suggest to whoever made this video to remind themselves of a simple fact.
Steel is much harder than aluminum.
They seem to have got this mixed up.
zenoist2 11 months ago
Short Comment... that is all
strongmage80 1 year ago
Think about a building made of straws, the plane hit near the top, fire heats up the straws, the straws begin to weaken, they weight from the above floors pushes down on them, all that weight and sudden momentum does the same to the floor below the impact, more weight and momentum builds with each floor and the building compresses faster and faster all the way down. It's a VERY simple concept and that's what happened.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron but the official story and attempts to match the fire allows for no heat conductivity at all in the case of the building 7 video that has been pulled
Its very simple that metal does conduct heat..
Nist had to assume no conductivity and ridiculous temperatures to get the buildings to collapse in computer simulations using fire only as the explanation.. The only thing they proved was Fire was NOT responsible.
zenoist2 11 months ago
I cannot claim who did this but watch this animation again and in the numerous times it hits the tower think about the game Jenga. What you have in essence is a new jenga build with all its structural integrity in place. If you simulate the point of contact, angle, with the speed of the object it is highly unlikely that even the higher blocks will fall let alone lower. Furthermore, it is even less likely since it took out the middle and not the edge. But I do not know.
danewheeler 1 year ago
I'm glad you finally admitted you were wrong lenn! Congratulations for not being a truther anymore! What was it that finally got you to admit you were wrong about 9/11 being an "inside job"? Was it all the lies you fell for, lies like no wreckage being found at the Pentagon, or was it all the lies about the engines not being found? Was it the fact that all truthers stories have been proven a lie? Either way, congrats lenn!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron the truthers who actually do their homework have raised very important questions, that are not being considered.
there is still nobody talking about all the bombs that went off in the towers, yet in a lot of news reports, you can hear them going off. firefighters reported hearing them, a janitor that worked in the towers reported helping a victim of one of these explosions before the planes even hit. look up "Kenneth Johannemann" he's the WTC janitor.
have a nice day.
DuffMan6I7 11 months ago
@DuffMan6I7 there weren't any "bombs" going off, if you had done any actual "research" you would know that explosions are common in building fires. No one heard bombs. Truthers haven't raised any good questions, they only make unsupportable accusations based on ignorance and gullibility.
youstupidmoron 11 months ago
@youstupidmoron here are 3 youtube videos. if these explosions aren't bombs what could they be? notice the firefighter confirms that there were "secondary explosions".
William Rodrigez talks about explosions before the first plane hit.
/watch?v=DIC0Kl4TKoU
firefighters recovering from an explosion in the lobby of the 2nd(i think) tower.
/watch?v=IO1ps1mzU8o&NR=1
cell phone video(?) of a large explosion heard close by.
/watch?v=0YvrKfWkxdw&feature=related
are all these people gullible?
DuffMan6I7 11 months ago
@DuffMan6I7 Explosions happen all the time in building fires, from water tanks being heated to failure, to explosive gasses building up from lots of burning objects. As material in plastic, carpet, wood, etc. Heat up they emit explosive gasses that build up until a heat or ignition source is found and they explode. Listen to a controlled demo, even from 1/2 mile you can clearly hear hundreds of sequential explosions going off, no such explosions took place at the WTC, not even close!
youstupidmoron 11 months ago
@DuffMan6I7 "secondary explosion" does NOT mean bombs. There was no damage in the lower floors, people were still evacuating, if bombs were going off, people would have been killed. There are ZERO videos showing any controlled explosives. Controlled demolitions are EASILY recognized by the sounds and appearance of Hundreds of explosives going off, no such event happened anywhere near the WTC. There's no video that you can hear hundreds of explosives going off like is in ALL cont. demo. videos!
youstupidmoron 11 months ago
@youstupidmoron look, i wasn't there, but people who were there (before any conspiracy theories started) reported all of these explosions (alot of which happened in the basement)
the part that I don't like about this, is that our government says that there were no bombs. google barry jennings if you haven't heard of him. an explosion inside WTC 7 blew him and a co-worker back up a flight of stairs.
here's a few more bomb videos
/watch?v=5IqSsTmWv7k
/watch?v=y2A8VMg_B64&feature=related
DuffMan6I7 11 months ago
@DuffMan6I7 You can watch truther "bomb" videos all day if you want, it's not going to change the fact that no bombs went off in ANY of the buildings. There isn't the SLIGHTEST reason to even imagine any bombs went off. The building did NOT blow up. Explosions are absolutely common in building fires, go talk to a fireman instead of watching idiotic truther videos.
youstupidmoron 11 months ago
@youstupidmoron they aren't "truther" bomb videos, they are videos that show evidence of large explosions occuring in the area. yes, secondary explosions can happen when flammable material is ignited quickly, but these explosions could be heard across the hudson river, and all through manhattan. those were huge.
the 9/11 commission said that nobody died in WTC 7, Barry jennings reported to the news (on sept 11th) that an explosion occurred in WTC 7, he stepped over BODIES in the lobby escaping.
DuffMan6I7 11 months ago
@DuffMan6I7 the truth is out there, but if we just keep arguing amongst ourselves we can't find the real answer. the whole day has a lot of strange coincidences, but it is not getting the attention it deserves because professionals are afraid to stake their reputation on anything that says "9/11 conspiracy". this is america, the first amendment protects FREE SPEECH. this means "truthers", along with every other form of "unpopular speech". POPULAR speech does not need to be defended.
DuffMan6I7 11 months ago
@youstupidmoron So how do you explain that the "black boxes" were never found? Untill 9/11 the boxes have always been found when on land.
wafelonia 9 months ago
@wafelonia Wrong, first off the only boxes that weren't found were those at the WTC, no one ever expected they would be found anyway, you may not have noticed this but two massive buildings collapsed with the planes inside them. Black boxes are not ALWAYS found and they are not always found in usable condition! There are numerous occasions when boxes have been totally destroyed. You need to get your info from places other than YouTube truther videos and truther websites.
youstupidmoron 9 months ago
@youstupidmoron Alright and how about all the illuminati symbolism in music. And the logo's that look like piramides?
wafelonia 9 months ago
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@wafelonia Grow up you ignorant fool!
youstupidmoron 9 months ago
@DuffMan6I7 Watch controlled demolition videos, they are always video taped from at least 1/2 mile away, in all of them you can hear hundreds if not thousands of sequential, repetitive explosives going off, it's a very distinct sound. Watch any WTC video, there are many that were taped right next to the towers, NONE of them have any of the repetitive explosions you would hear in a controlled demo, not even close! The towers would have been the biggest ever, there would have been THOUSANDS!
youstupidmoron 11 months ago
@DuffMan6I7 Again, I don't care if you watch truther "bomb" videos all day, it's not going to change the fact that no bombs were present anywhere near the WTC. I'm still waiting for idiotic truthers to supply video that shows the THOUSANDS of explosions that would have been present if there was a "controlled demo", truthers can't come up with ANY. listen to video of controlled demolitions, then listen to 9/11 videos, you will notice the complete lack of any such explosions. It's over, no bombs.
youstupidmoron 11 months ago
@youstupidmoron this guy doesnt have any common sense. keep believing what government tells you dumbass
LittleRicky63 10 months ago
@LittleRicky63 The government didn't tell me anything, what I know has absolutely nothing to do with the government you poor ignorant child. Grow up.
youstupidmoron 10 months ago
@youstupidmoron so if you believe that "al-qaida" planned these attacks, jet fuel and fire brought down these building, and "al-qaida" attacked the USA because they hate our freedom and are muslim extremists, well than you my friend was told by the government.
LittleRicky63 10 months ago
@LittleRicky63 What's truly hysterical is you want to be a defense attorney and you believe there is a "new world order"! You're gullible enough to fall for 9/11 "inside job" myths! You will make a HORRIBLE attorney! You have the reasoning skills of a mentally handicapped ten year old! You're not even smart enough to see through all the idiotic and impossible claims made up by truthers! It really is hilarious! Some day when or IF you ever mature, I hope you do so before you destroy someones life
youstupidmoron 10 months ago
@youstupidmoron its funny how you think you know what everyone is going to be. you are 100% wrong that you think i want to be a pussy ass attorney like you. and another funny think is that witnesses, police officers, and firefighters heard bombs going off. And about the New World Order thing. Go talk to George Bush about that. He said he wants a new world order in his speech in september 11, 1990. oh, and david rokerfeller wants a one world government. your witnesses a fakes like you dumb prick.
LittleRicky63 10 months ago
@LittleRicky63 you're an idiot! Bush wasn't talking about "the new world order"! You really need to not listen to idiots who tell you things and quote people out of context! No one said they heard "bombs" going off, people said they heard explosions, explosions are COMMON in building fires, if you had truly educated yourself you would have known that! that's the problem with you naive, ignorant little boys, you hate authority and are willing to believe anything against any authority! Grow up
youstupidmoron 10 months ago
@LittleRicky63 You little kids, you always result to using foul language, you're so immature that you can't make a comment without cussing like trailer trash! You will be a failure in everything if you listen to moron liars like your hero Alex the terrorist Jones. You may want to look into your buddies history before believing anything the guy says. Did you know he claimed the Soviets had launched ICBMs at the US? he also says the govt uses satellites to follow gun buyers and give them AIDs!
youstupidmoron 10 months ago
@LittleRicky63 I have spoken to firefighters, police, paramedics, and civillians that were there, none of them heard ANY bombs, none of them heard ANY explosions associated with controlled demolition! You really need to look through all the garbage you hear in truther videos and websites, if you had you would realize that there isn't a single piece of evidence to support ANY of the claims made by idiotic, lying truthers! There was no "inside job" in any way. NOTHING supports truther lies.
youstupidmoron 10 months ago
@LittleRicky63 If you actually had any common sense you would realize it would have been impossible for anyone to rig both towers or seven for a controlled demo, there is no way they could have gutted both towers, cut thousands of critical supports, planted thousands of pounds of explosives, ran miles of det cord, replaced all the wallboard with new, taped and textured it all, painted, etc. all without anyone seeing or even one person saying a word. It could have NEVER happened. Grow up.
youstupidmoron 10 months ago
@LittleRicky63 If you had bothered to look at videos of controlled demos you would know they consist of thousands of consecutive explosions that can be heard miles away, they also show thousands of explosions going off and start at the bottom. There weren't ANY sounds of explosions going off in ANY of the hundreds of videos taken that day, there weren't any visual indications either. You WANT so badly to believe in lies that you refuse to even check out the claims made by truthers. Grow up
youstupidmoron 10 months ago
@LittleRicky63 You poor attorney wanna be, I got all my information and formed my oppinion by speaking to experts, witnesses and the use of my own experience and education. You got you're idiotic myths from people who haven't a clue how a building is even constructed, people who watch idiotic truther videos full of myth, lies and absolute impossibilities. You have absolutely ZERO common sense or the life experience to deduce what is possible and what is absolute myth. Grow up little boy.
youstupidmoron 10 months ago
It's astonishing that anyone could even consider the massive list of exacting details would have to take place without error to pull off what truthers claim, the amount of people that would have to be involved and be trusted to never feel guilt or feel betrayed and want to confess, even anonymously. The families of the passengers, firemen, demo techs, pilots, construction workers, etc., etc. It could NEVER happen. It's idiotic to think it could.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
You keep saying "prove it", where have you been the last ten years? Have you been living in a cave? It's been proven over and over! You are a perfect example of a lying truther, you are the reason other ignorant people even consider idiotic "inside job" myths. Look how many of your claims you now know were lies! Len, it's over, you have nothing to support any truther myth. Time to grow up Len.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
There is a massive amount of evidence to support the terrorist attacks, you can follow almost every step the hijackers took in the years leading up to it! Their flight training, all the readily available receipts from their payments, even the receipts from their plane tickets, that by the way you lied about! Cameras in the airport even caught them boarding the planes! You will of course lie and say they didn't! That's how truthers work. They lie.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron And how about this? /watch?v=0UGXVic15ho
Osama bin laden ex-cia?
wafelonia 9 months ago
Len, you haven't come up with any evidence, in fact, if you presented everything you've come up with here to a judge he would laugh you out of the court house! All your claims are nothing but myth, gossip and flat out lies. A judge may even slap you with contempt! I caught you in several lies! How old are you? from the fits you throw and the way you lie I would guess you to be 15 at most!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
The ONLY admissible evidence relative to passengers is the official autopsy report. A 'passenger list' can be typed up by anyone at any time; ergo a JUDGE will not admit in court. The only OFFICIAL EVIDENCE re Passengers is the AUTOPSY report. THERE ARE NO ARABS ON THE LIST. Ergo THERE IS NO EVIDENCE that any hijacker ever got on board 77.
lennhart 1 year ago
@lennhart You must be getting very desperate after I destroyed all your claims, now you're trying to use Rumsfelds quote that was misquoted! He said "Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center." It is absolutely obvious it should have read "an American airlines flight filled with our citizens AS the missile". You "lened" again!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
There is NO proof that the piddly wreckage is traceable to ANY airliner let alone 77. If you think otherwise, prove it!
lennhart 1 year ago
HANI never got on board 77. If you think otherwise --PROVE IT
lennhart 1 year ago
There was NO WRECKAGE traceable to a 757 ever found on the pent lawn. If you think otherwise ---PROVE IT!
lennhart 1 year ago
@lennhart there was an abundant amount of flight 77 recovered at the Pentagon, your claim that none was found is an absolute lie. The landing gear, seats, one engine was found outside and parts of the other inside. Parts of the cockpit control panel, skin and structural parts of the plane including a large section of the tail. You can easiily see the photos of the wreckage all over the internet, look it up unless you're to lazy or more probable, you dont want to see it!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
The ONLY debris that was found at the pentagon was loaded up on a crate and hauled off by some yuppy types. There is SIMPLY no way that about four to six skinny guys can haul off the TONS of wreckage that is left behind from an airliner crash. I have witnesses and over professionally numerous airliner crashes. There was NO wrecakge traceable to a 757 to be found at the pent. If you think otherwise, PROVE IT!
lennhart 1 year ago
Tthe landing gear alone was NOT picked up by "four to six skinny guys". The engine found outside could not be picked up by your skinny guys either! Seeing the wreckage is a very simple thing to do, just google "flight 77 wreckage" you will see actual photos of the compressor fan that matches the the Rolls Royce engine perfectly, even the rims used on the landing gear are EASILY identified as that of flight 77. I know its difficult to face the fact that you're wrong, you must be humiliated
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
I'm taking my beautiful wife out to dinner, I will let you think about all the facts that you got wrong so far. I will continue your education when I return. Try to understand that all the things you got wrong so far may mean something, it means you need to stop making assumptions and stop getting your info from truther websites. Class resumes in a few hours.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
Again --the ONLY newspaper I cited was the Washington Post and --in fact --the POST ITSELF referenced official, admissible sources for its story. Doesn't matter! There is still no prove that 1) hani got on the flight 2) walked through the closed door 3) and there is NO proof that he was ever killed. There is NO BODY!!!! There was NO AUTOPSY of arabs. NO ARAB names! ERGO ---there is no proof of any type that any arab ever got on ANY of the said flights at any time. ,
lennhart 1 year ago
@lennhart Show me where the "Official report" says there was no wreckage of flight 77? Show me where it says Hani had no ticket? You keep claiming that its "official" but there isnt ANY government report that supports ANY of your claims. You need to stop reading truther website and watching youtube videos, they are far from reliable resources. Your sources said the engines were 15 feet in diameter! That is an absolute lie as well! You didnt get that info from any "official source" either!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
Len, both engines were found, one outside and parts of the other inside. The fan (not a rotor by the way) had is blades knocked off, the photos of it clearly show the broken blades. And again Len, the same sensor said the door hadn't been opened on the previous 11 flights. Do you really think the pilots never went pee, entered or exited the cockpit, had a meal brought in? It's obvious the sensor was bad. You "lened" again!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron No --they were not! Prove it!
lennhart 1 year ago
Again --NTSB data (official and admissible in court) put 77 at at alt of 271 ft,some 200 ft ABOVE the pent at the time of the crash. Last time I checked with my old physics prof, material objects larger than sub-atomc particles CANNOT be in two places at the same time. ERGO the official conspiracy theory of 911 is UTTER AND TREASONOUS bullshit!
lennhart 1 year ago
Let's go over this again1) D.R. sez a missle struck 'this building'. 2) NTSB data says 77 NEVER dropped below 271 ft. Pentaon is only some 71 ft tall. 3) ONLY ONE rotor was found; a 757 has TWO rotors, count 'em!
lennhart 1 year ago
You really need to read reliable sources and actually finish reading the entire subject, dont stop reading a paragraph as soon as you see what you WANT to see! Look how many times that has embarrassed you so far! Look how many facts you have been wrong about in just the last 24 hours! You may want to start questioning your sources and your own ability to understand the evidence before you, you're not doing so good. Maybe you have a health issue that prevents you from using common sense!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron DUDE are you saying that I should NOT believe the ONLY EVIDENCE that would be admissilbe in court? LOL LOL LOL You are an idiot. the info I cited is official, govt data from govt agencies, But being an idiot as you are, that fact is LOST ON YOU. How old are you? 12? Have you never gone to school? Do you know what the word 'official' means? Do you know what the term 'admissible evidence' means?
lennhart 1 year ago
I am not wrong about the engine rotors and---in any case --AIRLINERS have TWO pretty larger rotors. ONLY ONE rotor was found and it was very small, about the same size at the one found in a U.S. Global HAWK. Hey ---it was DON RUMSFELD himself who said that a MISSILE struck the pentagon. I heard him say that. that was before he got the memo LOL LOL LOL
lennhart 1 year ago
We are expected to believe that a man who cannot even be proven to have been on the flight, walked through a closed door and, piloted a plane which he most certainly COULD NOT have piloted yet crashed it into a building while showing an altitude some 200 ft ABOVE the pent at the time of the allege crash!!! LOL LOL LOL Ludicrous! ONLY MORONS BELIEVE THIS SHIT!
lennhart 1 year ago
AGAIN--NTSB DATA puts 77 at 271 ft, some 200 ft ABOVE the pent at time of crash. BUSHIES must think that airliners can be in two places at one time.
lennhart 1 year ago
You were wrong about the ticket, the engines diameter, the engines and plane wreckage being found, you're wrong about the door, at least you can't figure out that it must have had a bad sensor because it also said the door been opened on the previous eleven flights. Len, you are not a very bright person! After each of your failures you try to change your story, it's not going to work. You failed, I mean you "lened". It's over Len. Your assumptions are nothing but silly.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
You ARE STILL IGNORING ME ---I ask you to explain HOW 77 managed to strike the PENTAGON while some 200 ft above it! Explain that!
lennhart 1 year ago
Hey shill --how old are you? 15? You know NOTHING of the rules of evidence? Do you? Admit it? merely contradicting me or calling me names doesn't put a single arab on that plane. There is NO evidence that there were ANY ARABS on any of the fligths at any time. If you think otherwise prove it. Show me
lennhart 1 year ago
As there were NO arabs on the autopsy report, there is --then --NO evidence that there were ANY ARABS at all on 77. NONE!
lennhart 1 year ago
All your claims have been destroyed, you make up stories! Just like when you tried to tell people the fans are 15' in diameter instead of the actual 6', you claimed Hani had no ticket because you read it in a newspaper! Hilarious! I told you where he bought his ticket, call them! All your claims are silly and full of assumptions! You failed! From now on I'm going to refer to stupidity as a "Len" as for the door, as I said the sensor says it wasn't opened on the previous 11 flights, think Len
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
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@youstupidmoron NONE of my claims have been destroyd. You have not even addressed them LOL LOL LOL LOL
lennhart 1 year ago
Donald Rumsfeld is on TAPE talking about a MISSILE that hit the PENTAGON. Now --I would like to know precisely WHICH missile it was. Bush ordered the wreckage destroyed. That IS --in itself--the crimes of FELONY DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE and obstruction of justice. As they are related 911, these acts are also evidence of HIGH TREASON!
lennhart 1 year ago
BTW shit for brains....who do you shill for?
lennhart 1 year ago
There is NO EVIDENCE that 1) hani had a tickert 2) no evidence that he walked through a closed door 3) no evidence that 77 dropped below 271 ft 4) there are no arabs among the dead as evidenced by the official autopsy report 5) there are NO records of any Arabs being interred. None! Basically, youstupidmoron you have SHIT FOR BRAINS and merely ignore the stuff you dont't like.You stupid and pig headed and I never liked asswipes like you anyway. Fuck off
lennhart 1 year ago
EVEN if he did have a ticket ---how did he get through the closed door. ntsb data says it was closed. How did he get into the cockpet?
lennhart 1 year ago
Hani did have a ticket, I told you where he bought, call them yourself. An overwhelming amount of 77 was recovered, including one engine outside, parts of the other inside, the landing gear, seats, luggage and lots of skin, stringers and formers of the wings and fuselage. The door sensor also said the door hadn't been opened on the previous 11 flights, obviously there's a bad sensor. You poor Len!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron lol did he???? PROVE IT!
lennhart 1 year ago
Poor len! You get so upset when you're proven wrong! Instead of throwing fits you should take it like an adult. I know it's hard for you poor truthers, all your claims have been destroyed over and over again, it must be hard being humiliated on a daily basis! Go cry in a corner instead of throwing your fits in public, your embarrassing yourself.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron I am not upset nor am I proven wrong. What PRECISELY do you think you proved? LOL Show me the wreckage! Show me arab names on an autopsy report! Explain that. And conveniently, you still ignore the OFFICIAL GOVT RECORD which states that the cockpit door NEVER opened during flight. You must think DAVID COPPERFIELD really did walk through the treat wall of china. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
lennhart 1 year ago
Simply --the Bush 911 LIE proven with the government's on records to be UTTERLY FUCKIING IMPOSSIBLE.Now --when you have ELIMINATED the impossible what remains must be the truth. 911 was an inside job.There is, then, what jurists call PROBABLE CAUSE to being an investigation of Bush and everyone else who had METHOD, MOTIVE and OPPTY. There is PROBABLE CAUSE to INDICT GWB for the crimes of mass murder and high treason.
lennhart 1 year ago
I have listed numerous HOLES in the Bush fucking lie re: 911. Any ONE of them shoots down the whole theory. But --in fact ---ALL of the sources I cited are OFFICIAL sources save 2: the Washing Post which cited AA records. 2) the OFFICIAL AUTOPSY report which was released to DR. OLMSTED in response to his FEDERAL OFFICIAL INFORMATION ACT request!
lennhart 1 year ago
It was the Washington POST which cited AA to the effect that HANI HANJOUR did NOT have a ticket. So --you think he did a DAVID COPPERFIELD and walked through what NTSB sez was a closed door, then WHERE is the official proof? Where is his name on the ONLY OFFICIAL LIST of DEAD re: 77, i.,e the AUTOPSY REPORT. Clue: HANI is NOT on the list because neither he NOR the other alleged hijackers were EVER on the flight; that is consistent with the FACT that no wreckage from 77 was EVER recovered
lennhart 1 year ago
Another point --ONLY FUCKING MORONS believe the Bush conspiracy theory involving Ali Baba (Bin Laden) and his 40 (19) Thieves (Hijackers) The Bush theory is not even original. It was STOLEN from 1001 Arabian Nights. LOL LOL LOL GOP crooks should have hired better screenwriters from the Writers Guild of America in Hollywood. They would have --at least ---come with a more realistic movie plot!
lennhart 1 year ago
Let's get something else straight! The ONLY persons posting 'conspiracy theories' here are the Bush kissups who believe the official conspiracy theory. I have NO THEORY at all. All I have are FACTS ---verifiable and OFFICIAL GOVT RECORDS that prove that the conspiracy theorists who believe that a CONSPIRACY of 19 hijackers pulled off 911 is a TOTAL FUCKING CROCK OF SHIT! Not even a good movie script.
lennhart 1 year ago
In both law and debate --the dictum is: THOSE WHO ASSERT MUST PROVE. So --you 911 liars, if you wish me to believe this fable, this fairy tale, this bald faced fuckin lie, this sack of shit ---PROVE IT. Or --of shut the fuck up! Off yourself! That might work. Basically, you have supported your fragile egos with a pack of lies. I feel sorry for ya...(not really) LOL
lennhart 1 year ago
Aluminum will easily break your little knife blade, there was no "vaporized or melted" steel anywhere near the WTC or the Pentagon, both engines were found at the Pentagon, the engines were Not 15 feet or even "about 15 feet in diameter", they were 6 feet. Titanium shatters easily, it's a very hard alloy. Kerosene absolutely burns hot enough to weaken steel, specially with hundreds of thousands of tons pressing down on it. Face it, you are wrong about all your claims. It's over, you failed.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
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All you can do is try to change the subject, explain why you are lying about the engines and the compressors and the fans? Why are you lying about steel not being weakened by kerosene? Since you have been caught lying about those issues, nothing you say can be believed. Once you realize you're wrong about those, then we can take care of your other myths.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
"steel is steel", Uh, no it isn't! Every alloy is different, each alloy has different characteristics and performs different, the steel in your Swiss Army knife is nothing like steel used in construction. As for the engines that you know nothing about, I can't believe you actually thought they were 15 feet in diameter! Anyway, both of them were found at the Pentagon you silly kid! You are very slow.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
Another problem with wing nuts ---they always try to change the subject when their sorry asses have been whipped. The moron posting here has IGNORED the following: 1) show me wreckage traceable to a 757 at the pent 2) prove to me that AL has EVER penetrated hardened steel (show me a peer-reviewed paper) 3) EXPLAIN how Hani got on board without a ticket 4) how did 77 strike the pent when both AA and BTS says 77 did NOT fly on 911.
lennhart 1 year ago
@lennhart Lets move on, Hani Hanjour purchased his ticket for American Airlines flight 77 from ATS Advanced Travel Services in Totowa, New Jersey on august 31 in his own name. You can call them yourself if you would like. As for your little ditty about the cockpit door not being opened during the flight, theres a big problem, the same data shows the same door hadnt been opened on the previous 11 flights! I guess those pilots never pee, they were never brought a meal and never left the cockpit!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@lennhart Why dont you explain why the cockpit door sensor showed the door hadnt been opened on not only that flight but the previous 11 flights? Golly gee, I wonder if mybe there was an issue with the door sensor! No, couldnt be! Those airline pilots never have to pee! They never leave the cockpit at all! There goes another of your myths. You already destroyed your credibility on all your other claims, lets keep it up! You hear a myth and dont check out the facts, you assume! You fail.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@lennhart Why do you truthers always claim that it was a "global hawk"? Not one witness ever said anything about a Global Hawk, in fact they ALL said they saw the plane! Why do you keep talking about the engines when its already been established that one was found outside and the other inside? What about the claim that the engines were 15 feet in diameter? You were wrong about that one, I guess you couldnt be wrong about the others! You only hear what you WANT to hear, you never check the facts
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron It was DONALD RUMSELD, who was at the time the SECRETARY OF DEFENSE who referred clarly to '.....THE MISSILE THAT CRASHED INTO THIS BUILDLING": It's in the public record. Look it up! Now --if Bush had NOT OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE (A FEDERAL CRIME, LOOK IT UP) then the SINGLE ROTOR that was found could have been traced. CLUE: airliners have TWO rotors and they are much bigger. A U.S. GLOBAL HAWK ---a missile by Rummie reckoning --has only one! Only ONE was ever found at the Pentagon.
lennhart 1 year ago
You actually WANT to believe flight 77 didnt fly that day but in the same comment you claim that the cockpit door was never opened. Then theres the fact that it was a daily flight, it flew on all the days previous and was scheduled for the day after but you claim it didnt fly on 9/11! Hilarious! You only hear what you WANT to hear, you never check out anything, you read a story, get to the part thats about to explain the issue and you stop reading! Its the way of the truther. You failed again.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron You can read minds?? LOL You're an idiot! If you believe 77 struck the pentagon, then fucking prove it and shut the fuck up! You're just pissed because you can't.1) show me TWO engine rotor traceable to ANY 757 (that's a start) 2) show me ARAB NAMES on the OFFICIAL AUTOPSY REPORT! 3) explain to me HOW Hani walked through a closed door! (OFFICIAL NTSB DATA proves the cockpet door NEVER opened during any part of the flight) 4) Explain GOVT BTS data which says 77 DID NOT EVEN FLY!
lennhart 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron YOU IDIOT ---I did NOT claim that the cockpit door never opened. |It was the FUCKING GOVERNMENT SOURCE that I cited ----NTSB that published that information which is in the PUBLIC FUCKING RECORD! READ IT ..and shut the fuck up! DO YOU KNOW WHAT N.T.S.B. stands for??? No ---of course not, you moron! It stands for: NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD! It is a federal fucking agency! Numbnuts! ERGO: FED GOVT ITSELF SAYS THE COCKPIT DOOR (FLT 77) NEVER OPENED DURING FLIGHT
lennhart 1 year ago
Only ONE rotor means that a 757 could NOT have crashed the Pent. Secondly, no HANI in the cockpit means Bush lied. Thirdly --no ticket, no Hani! Bushco bites the dust.
lennhart 1 year ago
ONE ROTOR was found. Last time I checked there were TWO rotors on a 757.
lennhart 1 year ago
By the way, the steel in a Swiss army knife is NOTHING like the steel used in the WTC, do you enjoy making a fool of yourself?
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron prove it! Steel is steel! Look it up at M.I.T. Do the experiment, Write it up and get back with me you idiot! By the way, I carry a swiss army knife. It will NOT vaporize or melt in a kerosene fire. By the way, AL will not even scratch my blades. LOL I tried it! You moron!
lennhart 1 year ago
Anyone wishing me to believe the Bush bullshit cover story re: 911 MUST explain to me why the BTS says that flt 11 DID NOT EVEN fly on 911. Explain that!
lennhart 1 year ago
"about"? There is a big difference between 15 feet and the actual size of 6 feet! You really don't know what your talking about! You're not even aware that the blades were all knocked off of the compressor! Titanium is a very brittle metal, it can withstand heat but that makes it brittle as well, it can't take impact with hard objects. I can't believe you tried to lie and say the fans were 15 feet in diameter! Again, you keep destroying your own claims.
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron A big difference indeed! The rotor on a global hawk is ABOUT one third the size of TWO such rotors. Tell me ---show me a SECOND rotor of ANY SIZE! Unless you can do that, you're theory is bullshit. Show me a SECOND ROTOR.
lennhart 1 year ago
Anyone wishing me to swallow the Bush lie re: 911 must explain to me HOW Hani Hanjour managed to walk through a closed door to the cockpit. See the NTSB data referenced earlier.
lennhart 1 year ago
Anyone wishing me to believe the bush bullshit story must prove to me that Hani Hanjour got on board 77 though the Wash Post says he DID NOT have a ticket. Explain that --or shut up!
lennhart 1 year ago
And while your digging through the wreckage which Bush ordered carted off and destroyed, show me TWO engine rotors. Since when did 757 start flying with only one engine? Explain that to me! Secondly, weigh the wreckage! Tell me what happened to all that debis! Wormhole! How did Hani get on board without a ticket? Tell me how Hani managed to walk through a closed door! Weigh the wreckage?
lennhart 1 year ago
I almost feel sorry for you Lenhart! The fact that you spread nothing but lies and myth prevents me from having any sympathy for you. You choose to lie. You keep digging yourself in deeper. You really have no idea what your talking about. By the way, one engine was found outside, the other inside along with tha landing gear. Try to educate yourself before making a bigger fool of yourself. I have things to do, laugh at you some more later!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
You really need to learn a little more about the Rolls Royce RB211 engine used on flight 77! It is NOT "15 feet in diameter", in fact the main fan is only 74" in diameter with the blades attached, the compressor is about 27". You are only destroying your case further by falling for myths. You should probably give up right about now. You don't even know the diameter of the engines! You failed AGAIN. This is hilarious!
youstupidmoron 1 year ago
@youstupidmoron I used the word 'ABOUT'. In any case, the GLOBAL HAWK engine is about one third the size of 757 rotors. Secondly, ONLY ONE rotor of any size was recovered from the Pentagon and last time I checked a 757 has TWO engines, a U.S. GLOBAL HAWK only one. Secondly, the ONLY rotor found was presumably hauled off by the white shirts. I don't think those guys could have handled one, let alone TWO 757 rotors.Show me a SECOND rotors ----of ANY size. Show me!
lennhart 1 year ago