'Green growth the holy'

[ytcomposer]

WOW. That's authentic "Original Pronunciation" English. Gorgeous.

[Albukhshi]

@ytcomposer

well, from the early 1500's anyhow. you should see what it sounded like in the1390's-it's literally a different language.

[Murdoc2Dbabe]

who is the woman at 0:18?

[EmzLuvzCatz]

@littlemisssunnydale good video, who is the girl in the portrait at 0:17?

[Murdoc2Dbabe]

I've heard this song was written for catherine of aragon

[TalvinenNoita]

Beautiful. I came across it while reading about Catherine of Aragon. Did Henry VIII write more songs?

[TudorRose85]

This song was written for Katherine of Aragon when Henry still loved her. Green Sleeves is still in debate as to if it was written for Anne or Jane.

[12Antoniobu]

@TudorRose85 Wrong. Henry did not compose "Greensleeves", which is probably Elizabethan in origin and is based on an Italian style of composition that did not reach England until after his death

[danilol7]

@TudorRose85 this was written for anne not catherine

[TudorRose85]

@danilol7 I'm sorry but your wrong it was written for Katharine of Aragon. Crack a book!

[danilol7]

@TudorRose85 i read in a book that it was written for anne and i do believe it but we can never know for certain

[TIGGmovies]

Nice post tyvm.

[otterburn999]

Thank you for posting this. I saw the song referenced in 'Wolf Hall' by Hilary Mantel, along with 'Scaramella'. Now I know the tune and all the words! Thanks! :)

[22poopoo]

I take it all these songs are sang how they would have been pronounced? Sounds like it.

[sbchelldiver]

Meaning, when Americans of Scotch-Irish ascent or Americans soldiers sang this song in the Mexican American War, they perpetuated themselves by the first part of the song, Green Growth the Holly...to Latin people it sounded Gringo....so there you go...

[sbchelldiver]

The origin of the Pejorative Gringo...

[katharinethequene]

This is a lovely song, unfortunatly the many promises he makes to Catherine of Aragon throughout this would all in time be broken.

[lookingforboludeces]

it is such a disgrace to live in this XXIst century, i would have loved to live those times.

[joinmeforacupotea]

Sometimes, I wish that too, but then I release that I would prefer to be clean and bathed!

[Albukhshi]

if you were in certain..mid eastern lands, you wouldn't have to worry about hygene-they had plenty of places to clean yourself :D (you get the bonus of not having the inquisition)

but I doubt you want to live in 16th century Turkey or Arabia, do you?

[rolfblank]

The Christian Religion is 600 years older than the Islam.

Can it be, that they live still in a mental surrounding as we lived 600 years ago ?

[Albukhshi]

hard to say.

times change; what was once the most open minded place might very well be the most closed minded today.

I speak objectively here; the Ottoman Empire was for a time ahead of Europe. its part of the reason they expanded so much into Europe.

[yoglash]

i wish that too, but only if i was the king..

if i were someone else, and say i had a pretty wife - i would keep away from court..

the music was very nice, but i would just have to make sure, being a court musician, i didn't get too friendly with any of the king's mistresses..

[yoglash]

i guess what i meant to say is that if i was not with power, i would also have to be have to be not with pride..

[misha854]

I would have loved to have lived in that time period as well; however, I probably would have only lived to be 17 because that's when I had appendicitis and had to have my appendix removed!

[GoddessofHyrule]

It only would have been good if you'd been a man and rich.

[rolfblank]

@misha854

Yes, you are fully right.

What you describe is the live of a noble or another ruling person of those times.

"Good old times", they never existed.

When you wish to have lived in that times, the chance to be a noble (incl, the risk of an apendicitis) would be as a great win in the Lotto...

Normally you would have a great chance to die directly after your birth. Otherwise you would have had an extremly very hard (and short) live compared with our today situation in our Western World.

[rhubarbidoo]

oh yeah..if you were part of court that is

[AngelusaRequiem]

So beautiful. And as I sit in my chair by the window, watching winter "blasts" blow snow about, I love this song even more!

[shotgunhotstuff]

tudor music is nice and nice video i would hate to live in that time head chopping brrr but i believe in recorronation so i might of :P and im not hindu

[freyjagirl]

Is that King Francis I at 2:15?

[AngelusaRequiem]

I do think so!

Lucrezia Borgia at 2:06!!!

[livefromreno]

It's holly, not holy, but still a prtty song by Henry VIII.

[littlemisssunnydale]

The title is in early modern English where different spellings were endorsed for the same word. So whilst we spell the word as 'holly' back then it could be spelt in various ways like 'holy' or 'holly' etc. Ultimately it means the same thing. The full original lyrics are available in the info box.

[Albukhshi]

If I may ask, may you recommend any websites, books, or CD's where I may sample more of this music?

I would be very thankful.

[couprie]

@littlemisssunnydale One can observe the same phenomenon in other languages too. In Early modern Dutch for instance, the word "hood" ("head", "hoofd" in contemporary Dutch) could be spelt "hood", "hoot" or "hoet". To make it really confusing, "hoet" could also be the contemporary word "hoed", meaning "hat".

Interesting enough the pronunciation used in this recording (and in many of the the recordings you ave uploaded) sounds much closer to Dutch than contemporary English does. :)

[YeOldeTune]

What a nice music!

[XxCrazygal2007xX]

its lovely i love tudor songs, you should post more

where do you get them all from?

[littlemisssunnydale]

There tends to be various albums available on Amazon and Ebay which contain Tudor music. I usually rely on Ebay as I have purchased several albums on there for under £5. I usually find the albums under 'Tudor CD' or 'Henry VIII CD'.

[Rosen915]

So lovely....

Thanks for this and your other posts. I always enjoy them.

[littlemisssunnydale]

Thank you! :)

[AngelusaRequiem]

This is beautiful! I think I heard that Henry VIII wrote this

[littlemisssunnydale]

Yep; it is believed to be one of his compositions

[justlooking213]

I look for this song every Christmas! Where did you get it?!?

[littlemisssunnydale]

I discovered it on a random CD; I can send it to you if you like?

[weneedtodosomething]

@littlemisssunnydale can u send it to me?

[Murdoc2Dbabe]

@littlemisssunnydale could you please send it to me it would be greatly appreciated if you did :)