Miguel Serrano - Lucifer and The White Gods

[deviantcreep]

The Celtic gods, Germanic Gods, Greco-Roman Gods, and Indo-European Gods in general all over obviously have the same root & origin but I myself would strictly avoid considering each pantheons equivalent in another pantheon as the same Gods. They may have the same root but on a local level they developed their own characteristics for the given tribe in the given region. Also Non Indo-Pantheons that have "White" Gods may have come from a European but still are not the same as other "White" Gods...

[deviantcreep]

@deviantcreep

Don't get me wrong, I do completely understand the point of trying to get people to come together racially and whatnot but I'm just trying to approach the subject dynamically as I don't think uniformity necessarily equals unity. Do you know what I am saying here?

[deviantcreep]

@deviantcreep

P.s. Forgive me if I have misinterpreted something here... I trust you will explain my misconceptions if there is any.

[2pitbull44]

Me and a comrade are trying to understand all of this but it's not easy there is a lot of informations, some are contrary (for ex I was told that the Black Sun is in the center of earth). Can you send me a message summarizing everything, and/or all the books to read in order of importance please? Thanks in advance.

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@2pitbull44 I couldn't even hope to summarize it but I can suggest that you read "Nos, Book of the Resurrection" for a better understanding of Esoteric Hitlerism, though it is written in a more poetic way and does not include almost any specific details concerning Hollow Earth, Hitler, the SS etc. For that, I would suggest the first book in the EH trilogy, "Esoteric Hitlerism: The Golden Thread." The English translation is coming out later this year, translated by Alex Kurtagic

[EAU2007]

Thuletide Comes the cloven smile Winter night I draw you And all the branches bend Like a skeleton in the wind Now the air is white Seeking flames so warm and high In the Witching-Hour In the snow-white world of Thule Like your Grandmothers ghost All the leaves just disappear Before the eyes are shut Will they shine, oh will they ever open? All the cloven trees All the nocturnal frozen breath Come and see, my love

[hazelenoch]

where can i find the lyrics for thuletide?

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@hazelenoch I haven't seen them anywhere online but I have actually typed them up from the lyrics booklet from the album. I will message them to you.

[hazelenoch]

@TempleOfTheBlackSun Thank you

[DELTASIN666]

@TempleOfTheBlackSun i really want to read Nos but it's too expensive for me.

[MarciareOMarcire]

I haven't read any Serrano books, so I was wondering what his position is with relation to Julius Evola's take on the myths in question. At first sight, it seems Serrano has a very different take on the symbol of the serpent. He claims it to bestow eternal life to those who come in contact with the serpent. Evola on the other hand, says that the serpent is a female symbol and therefore telluric/demonic/lunar in opposition to the solar tradition of hyperborea.

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@MarciareOMarcire If you email me (I sent you my email address in a message) I can send you some quotes by Serrano about Evola's works and him as a person. They agreed on much but also had their differences. Serrano met with and spoke to Evola in a person towards the end of Evola's life.

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@MarciareOMarcire Also, unless I am mistaken, I don't believe Serrano said that anyone who comes into contact with the serpent gains eternal life, but that what the Kundalini Serpent represents, Astral Fire (among many other names) is utilized to that end...it is part of the path. (continued)

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@MarciareOMarcire One major difference between Evola and Serrano is that Serrano maintained that, "to be able to reach the goal of the immortalization of the initiate, a feminine presence is essential . . . whether of flesh and bone, or in imagination, on the other side, in a beyond, in the world of the dead, of heroes, in Valhalla."

[Vampiress661]

@MarciareOMarcire

I'd just like to point out that I do not agree with Evola's take on his feminine 'lunar' associations and his masculine 'solar' associations; the Germanic Nordic races which he held in such high regard, actually associated the sun with woman and the moon with man.

In Southern Europe, where Evola was born, the moon was feminine and the sun was masculine but it certainly wasn't the case for Northern Europe.

I just recently wrote an article about it :P

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@Vampiress661 Interesting, I would like to read it if you're willing to send me a link.

[MarciareOMarcire]

@Vampiress661 I would like to read your article because, and I mean no offense by it, the sun being associated with woman and the moon with man sounds like a ridiculous idea. Of course if your article is well written and you cite some sources then I will stand corrected. Even you were right it still wouldn't change the fact that all other religions associate the sun with man. Julius Evola wasn't merely a product of his mediterranean environment: that's what sociologists would have us believe.

[Vampiress661]

@MarciareOMarcire

Sent you a PM with a link to the article.

[jovo54]

Serrano was a true Runic Master.

Could anyone direct me where I can download Nos, the book of resurrection? I'd really appreciate it.

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@jovo54 It is not available for download. You can find it on Amazon though. It is well-worth paying for a physical copy

[jovo54]

@TempleOfTheBlackSun thx for the info...

[DELTASIN666]

@hazelenoch i agree. But it's rare and it's a great book.

[DELTASIN666]

you can buy the book on amazon

[hazelenoch]

@DELTASIN666 but its pretty pricey.Its hard to find a copy at a decent price.

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@hazelenoch It can be. There was only one edition ever printed in English (in 1984) that I am aware of. It is well worth paying for.

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@turehu88 I disagree. It has been encouraged by Jewish record labels, yes, there is no doubt they love promoting it, but it came naturally from the black psyche. There is a good article by Julian Lee titled "In Praise of the White Singing Voice:

Getting to 'Beyonce' Overload" being featured right now on Counter-Currents. I strongly suggest you read this.

That being said, when Miguel Serrano said rap music didn't really exist. I believe he was talking about jazz and other kinds of negro "music"

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@TempleOfTheBlackSun When Miguel Serrano said *this* rap "music" (at least as we understand it today) didn't really exist. I believe he was referring more to Jazz, and other black musical influences and those influenced by it (such as Elvis, John Lenin, etc.).

[hazelenoch]

some scientists claim that when white people are immersed in sensory deprivation tanks for long periods, their circadian rhythm has a frequency of 24 hours 40 minutes, which corresponds not to the rotational period of the Earth, but of Mars! This is not the case with non-white races who are in tune with the Earth’s rotation.

[SandThruFingers]

Interesting video from an occult perspective, but ultimately fairly racist. Tawus Melek, the Peacock Angel of the Yezidis predates the concept of Lucifer but is the true source myth of Lucifer, if not Sanat Kumara, which may be even older. The premise of this video is perhaps flawed. It is debateable if Hyperboria existed before Lemuria..

[theshow2k8]

@SandThruFingers

So all you've got to do is change the name around and surely the story would be the same.

[buhonero815]

jovenes despierten el mundo es mejor que esta realidad

[andy7666]

Very interesting. Im fascinated by the occult side of NS and related World Views - while skeptical I do enjoy learning about them and appreciate the value of having a Mythos! Europe (& certainly the Aryan World) has a great enough pre-Christian history IMO without debating Lucifer or other more "modern" concepts. The existence of other life in the Universe is almost guarenteed - as is the existence of great and higher life-forms; but surely nobody can have knowledge of these, one day perhaps!

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@andy7666 "Europe (& certainly the Aryan World) has a great enough pre-Christian history IMO without debating Lucifer or other more "modern" concepts." I would agree if we were talking about the concept of Luficer most people think of now, however, the concept Serrano is talking about predates Judaism and Christianity and is at the basis of Hyperborean myth & spirituality. Judaism stole and twisted the concept of Lucifer just like almost all of their other stories.

[EinSieg14NS88]

Good music but Idunno bout the info.... I will investigate,, as we Aryans always do.

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@EinSieg14NS88

lol

[volkolak45]

@EinSieg14NS88

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[theshow2k8]

Odin is Lucifer?

[zion018]

i am new to this stuff, but i am interested to know more. where can i start?

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@zion018 It depends on what you are interested in. Esoteric Hitlierism/The Path of A-Mor? If so, then I would suggest reading the books by Miguel Serrano that are currently available in English, especially Nos, Book of the Resurrection.

If you want, send me a message and I can talk with you more in depth about it over email or skype. I can send you a few good links too.

[NorthernStar50]

@TempleOfTheBlackSun Interested in your links!

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@NorthernStar50 You have "friend lock" enabled, which means I can't send you messages unless you add me as a friend. Accept my request and I will try again.

[NorthernStar50]

@TempleOfTheBlackSun Apologies for the 'friend lock' and for my delayed response. I look forward to learning!

[NormanLowell]

2012: Anno Zero!

2012: The Golden Dawn

2012: Kritayuga

Imperium Europa!

[sveikasveta]

BLOOD HYMNS album from Harvest Rain is a must for all the lover of dark folk, atmospheric music. For two reasons. 1.music is excellent. all songs are greats and 2. because the theme of the album is serious, is magic, based in one of the best poets and propehets of a new gold era, Miguel Serrano.

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

@sveikasveta Very, very true my friend. I absolutely agree

[NMNL64]

This is excellent.

14/88!!

[scarwarsnow]

Blood and race are worth dying for. Its preservation is the supreme task of inherently superior races

[TempleOfTheBlackSun]

Heil brothers

[wearethebomb666]

Sieg Hail Kameraden!!!

[fedemupitchar]

Heil from Uruguay