@nasermeter No, the simple fact is no wild species of cat makes a good "pet" no matter what you do to try and tame them they will still have their wild instincts and always be unpredictable and dangerous, no matter how well you think you know them or how much you love them.
Titling in the video comes out muddy at the submitted resolution/compression chosen. May I suggest redoing the text in the video for resubmission to youtube? I know RED is being used because the video is about a warning... maybe orange for the captions with each big cat and red text on yellow background at the end? (yellow is pretty commonly used for CAUTION, so it could be considered relevant).
People actually try to compare domesticated dogs with big cats? Are they insane? Tigers and lions have existed for many centuries. If they could be domesticated, it would've happened centuaries ago! God didn't give them powerful strenghs and fangs, and craws for nothing you know. They are made to hunt down animals including humans! You can take the big cats out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of a big cat! Think about that.
lions and tigers i would say no. every other one would make a good pet as long as you had wide open land id imagine. we do have some pretty big and vicious dogs as pets as it is that are just as dangerous. gotta take the right precautions is all
By the way... I did find most of the sources I got my facts from, (from the comment you didn't want to approve [yet?]). They're quite credible - US government documents don't lie. But if you don't want to post them, that's fine; I told you I'm not trying to be rude here- just trying to share the facts with everyone. :/
And I'm still not trying to be rude, but can someone please explain to my why you're all in support of making all big cats extinct? I definitely feel like I am missing something... ( i-newswire. com/big-cat-rescue-ceo-s-20-year-plan/94831 )
And if you approved my other comment to Apharot about Fleeflies post, hold on before you snap at me and call me a liar - I know I've read those from multiple credible sources, and one from only one, butIcantfindthemrightnow,soImightnothavetherightfactsnow.
@ChocolatePheonix Why do you think we are trying to make big cats extinct? We RESCUE captive big cats and we support conservation efforts for wild big cats....
@BigCatRescue It says so in YOUR plan. And you intend on banning all credible places from being to rescue cats, unless they're under your control. You won't give conservation efforts a chance and just plan on them all dying while they're in your hands. You want to be the only one to keep them, while you already turn down hundreds of cases because you can't keep them. I don't understand how you don't think you're forcing them into extinction?
@ChocolatePheonix I think you're confusing extinction (wild cats) with privately owned cats (captivity) we definitely 100% want to see the private ownership of these cats come to an end, these cats don't deserve a miserable life in a tiny backyard cage just because someone wants to own a tiger, this is wrong. Banning the private ownership of these cats will not effect cats in the wild at all.
@BigCatRescue You said so yourself that tigers in the wild have no real chance of survival - at the rate they're going, I think they're supposed to go extinct in the wild by 2015 ?
The ones that live in captivity are the only ones that can keep the species alive- you're not even going to give a chance for conservation efforts to work (if we end up successfully saving wild territory for them to live we could eventually release some.) So you are just asking them all to die; it Does affect them.
@ChocolatePheonix We never said t hat wild tigers don't have a chance of survival. Big Cat Rescue is part of the International Tiger Coalition and we are part of the goal to double the amount of wild tigers by 2022. It's definitely possible and we're doing our part to make it happen. Tigers that live in accredited facilities with species survival plans can help preserve the species but tigers in backyards will never play a part in the conservation of tigers.
@BigCatRescue And it wouldn't let me add it because I ran out of room again, but I guess a difference in opinion too on how tigers are kept - I support responsible keeping of species like tigers because I have seen them happy or at Least moderately content in captivity, so I don't view it as a bad thing.
I do think animals should be free, but since they can't survive on their own, I'd like to see them alive - I have seen a couple that live poorlythoughandshouldbeabletogosomewheretheycanbehappy
@ChocolatePheonix You're wrong of course these animals can survive in the wild, we just need to preserve habitat and educate people, locking wild cats in backyards for the sake of our own egos is never going to be good for the animals or the people who are attacked by someone's "pet"
@BigCatRescue But in the end human needs are going to come first, the human population is growing and its going to keep growing no matter what environmentalist and conservtionists and caring people do. In the end the only option will be keeping them in captivity zoos dont have the facilitys to maintain specimans of species but its possible with enough people in the private sector granted they are given the chance, cus lets face it where running out of time tigers are do to be extinct in 12 year
@TheSolaceDream Tigers aren't going to be extinct if we act now and positive changes are being made and if we preserve enough habitat they will be just fine. Right now keeping tigers in backyards etc... is not needed and will never be needed to preserve the species so we should put an end to this animal abuse
@BigCatRescue How do you figure? I would rather see them in the hands of caring people then the risk of getting poached. There are more responsible owners in the private sector then you realize. Granted there are owners who dont care for these animals properly but that is no reason to ban them. Granted I dont think a person who has a 9 to 5 job should get a tiger. But those who are dedicated animal lovers that wish to have them for the right reasons should be able to have them.
@TheSolaceDream There is no right reason to own a tiger, they're WILD ANIMALS that kill things the size of people in the wild and kill people when in captivity. Tigers bred in backyards will never play a part in tiger conservation, wild tigers have pure genetics, backyard tigers as we call them have been cross bred with other sub species and sometimes inbred. If we protect habitat in the wild and educate local people and make them see that live tigers are just as valuable as dead ones.
@TheSolaceDream We can save the tiger in the wild. People owning tigers in the USA as "pets" just fuel the trade in exotic pets which are captured in the wild and transported overseas. Many states only require that the animal be in a cage large enough for it to stand up and turn around in, this is definite animal abuse to us!
@BigCatRescue I think so too- but only if we actually take action to do that; but what you guys are doing goes completely against that. You aren't putting strong efforts to actual education and preserving habitat, and you're just forcing everyone to give up their cats to live in your back-yard, or just kill them. And once again, attacks are very rare among big cat "pets" and other.
If you can prove to me you're doing other, I'll back off- I've just seen so much proof otherwisethatI'mskeptical.
@ChocolatePheonix We are constantly making efforts to educate and play a part in many conservation programs, but we are only one non-profit organization with minimal staff. We want to ensure that this abuse doesn't continue in the future, attacks from captive "pets" are not that rare, but they shouldn't be happening that is the point we're making, we have to stop this crazy practice of having tigers living in backyards! Please visit our website: BigCatRescue*org to learn about all that we do :)
@imtheuser12345 Size has nothing to do with it. However cougars are generally friendlier, and are not endangered so they can be fixed. Either way you still need a big cat trainer to work with you and the cat to teach you both how to interact with each other.
@Henrika16 No privately owned cats can be released into the wild. Cougars may be more talkative but they are definitely not "friendly", the bottom line is that no big cats should be kept as "pets"
i know they are bad pets this is why i don`t realy like people who keep big cat as pets unless if they were rescued as a cub or anything o3o i don`t really get what im saying......
And I'd have it walled off from my residence (which, I'd imagine would have a few square miles or so of its own property). Best part is that 3 sides of the property would be protected against burglary!
@XSPStudios wholy shit 40 square miles? themost i would be able to provide is ike 15 to 20 acres. thats why i am getting a serval cat. and i agree that lions and tigers and big cats like that should be banned from the trade, but smaller cats ike servals should be ok, depenng on the ownr
For one to say that "big cats dont make good pets" it seems like an oxymoron. 30,000 years ago, im sure wolves made bad pets, but now we have domesticated dogs. You guys keep sliding on that statement... "go get a dog" first of all dogs are decendents of domesticated wolves, secondly im not a dog person, i like cats. And domesticated cats are decendents of servals that were domesticated in north africa around 7,000 years ago. All common pets today were once wild animals.
lol You think all the wild animals can transit from wild into domestication? Think again. Tigers and lions have existed for centuries. If they could ever be tamed like dogs, they would've become a household pet like dogs long time ago. However, the reason why they still need to be locked in cages or are showing aggressiveness toward human being because they can never be pets. If you think they can be pets, fine, try live in a cage with a tiger or lion to see what happen. You are such an idealist
10,000 to 15,000 tigers are owned by private citizens or institutions in the U.S. Why are people not being mauled and killed daily if tigers are berserk animals that all snap and kill people? Also, how can serious taming of big cats happen when people, like you, whine about it and get it banned? Did you know that silver foxes were domesticated within the last 50 years? According to your logic this isn't possible since they should have been domesticated 1000's of years ago if they could be.
Big cats will never be tame, they may appear so to some point and then the next minute they might attack you! These are wild animals with wild instincts that will never be lost, there are many, many big cat incidents each year, this is why we whine about it and try to get the private ownership of these cats banned along with other things.
"there are many big cat incidents each year, this is why we try and get private ownership banned."
No, that's not why. If that was the reason, you'd also be trying to get dog ownership banned, Domestic dog attacks send 368,000 victims to the ER every year (1,008 per day)
@armygunner23 Unfortunately, what you are NOT including in this, is the FACT that those dogs tend to be more aggressive breeds owned by irresponsible owners, or dogs that were raised to be mean. In my life I've owned dobermans, german shepards, chows, labs, and mutts. Not one has ever attacked anyone else. In the case of big cats, that's not an option. A house cat will swipe at you if angered. Now imagine a 300 lbs lion doing that. VERY poor comparison.
@apharot A house cat will swipe sure, but not before showing some kind of body language. One of my cats is half feral and she can go from cuddles to drawing blood in a matter of seconds. There are subtle things to watch for though, like the rippling of her back, and sudden flicking of her ears. Other than that there is no warning - she will still be purring as she attacks. You have to be able to read body language to interact safely with ANY animal. It's all about training and using your head.
@Fleefles Think, please. A domesticated house cat is likely to attack and bite/scratch you just for making it mad, or it could be protecting something. Now imagine a full grown tiger doing that. Imagine playing with your tiger and it gets carried away (like most cats do at some point in their life). You went from having a pet to dead, and the cat will take the blame and be punished by death because the owner was too stupid to think of the consequences.
@apharot The difference between keeping a house cat and a tiger is a that a house cat is a pet, and a "pet tiger" is really the wrong name. If someone keeps a tiger its more like a hobby because there are rules to interact safely with these animals. You would NEVER "play" around a tiger unless you WANT to get killed. Interacting with a "pet tiger" means going through training routines, watching their reactions, never going in the enclosure by yourself etc. Please don't assume people are idiots.
@humanpotential7 Domesticated cats are not the descendants of servals. They are the descendants of the African Wildcat, a cat that is the same size as a domestic cat.
If I become rich or something like that I will make a OCELOT reabilitation center and release them back in to the wild in cuba because there is the strongest laws for exotick animals as cocodriles falcons and other species like that of course there is no ocelot in cuba but it is a good place for them to be free there is no deforestation and its like 70 or 80 % forest jungle and mountains that will be my plan for the ocelot future and they just dont harm ppl thats cool I love them
these people dont keep these animals as pets they keep them in enclosures to keep them from extinction and breed them. most of these cats like the bobcats are rescude from freeways or badly injured
BCR does not breed their cats. Funny how BCR doesn't think cats should be privately owned when they own them themselves...if life in captivity for them is so terrible, humanely euthanize them.
@Fleefles LOL!!! Yeah, because keeping them after some private owner/small zoo/road side circus was done with them/closed up shop/didn't want them anymore is bad. They would either be dead, or let loose. If they were returned to the wild, they would die. Can you please think before you post again? Thanks.
We don't consider big cats as "pets" no matter how they are kept, these are wild animals with wild instincts, they shouldn't be privately owned by anyone.
@BigCatRescue shut the fuck up because im getting a fucking black and white tiger cub then get a bigger land and keep it in a environment meant for it with all the shit it need's and black and white tiger's are meant for pet's because they cant live in the wild because there mutation so top that bitch
@jordanruleswii4 If my other comment got approved (It might not have) But now I forgot what I put- but big cats can make great companions if you raise them properly, and are generally quite safe - there's approximately 1 death a year by big cats, while, for example, there are approximately 17,000 deaths by simply falling. Btw, he's referring to white tigers(w/ black stripes = blk&wht I suppose). And they weren't Meant for pets, but simply proof of being born in captivity and are tamer as result.
Yes agreed big cats do not make good pets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now why is it that some people need to be constantly informed about this...its like the dont shake your baby warnings, god some people are just plain stupid
I know!!! I was watching weird true and creepy, and this idiot had a mountain lion as a pet! One day his choice of keeping that animal is going to come back and bite him. LITERALLY!
Have you seen "Randy Miller"? hes on youtube promoting cruelty, I cant believe the selfishness of this man, using these cats for fame and money and even egging the cat on to attack him
So nobody is allowed to own exotic animals except for you guys? Do you realize how selfish this is?
Let's say I created an artificial habitat for exotic cats just like yours or even better, I still wouldn't be allowed to own and take care of exotic animals under your stupid laws.
The laws should be that if you have an adequate habitat and take an test or something then you SHOULD be allowed to own these animals.
Restricting the freedoms of the american people is unconstitutional and cruel.
Caging wild animals seems cruel to us. Our cats were rescued from different situations without us they would of ended up in far worse conditions or been destroyed. The sad thing is it's legal to own these cats in over half of the united states.
its not selfish these animals cant be returned to the wild and where else are they gonna go
well if you did have a greater amazing enclosure dont even think of buying the cats, because there are so many big cats in circulation you wouldn't have to pay, and if you met the criteria of law and got the respect of these people you could probably have another haven for these cats
restricting your freedom to dominate, would your place be controlled who would check on you for abuse issues, private no!
Uneccessarily restricting the freedoms of wild animals is equally cruel too. These people actually go out and save big cats that otherwise would have been killed or lived a worse lifestyle then when they were picked up. They don't cage wild animals just to have them as pets.
Besides, if you were going to have a better sanctuary for these cats, would you know how to handle them without hurting them? Would you know how to be cautious around them? Would you have enough money, enough time to take care of them? Owning a big cat is far more than just having a cage and adequate food.
@holasweety If you have the money, which you kind of have to have in order to have the land needed and to purchase the food, you would obviously employ the help of a professional big cat trainer.... All successful owners of big cats, if you ask them go "We had a trainer work with us since she/he was a cub". They also have them spayed/neutered if they are not endangered, as with house cats there is always the possibility of getting violent after maturing
Fuck you all who preech about the "saftey Hazard" of keeping a pet big cat Hell most of them are helping by breeding em and plus its a choice to keep such dangeous animals so what the fuck gives you the right to attempt to control our choices in pets so, ill bet you also support the HR 669 bill!
You're right unfortunately people in over half of the USA still have the choice to own big cats. Only accredited zoos/facilities are helping by breeding big cats in captivity any privately owned cats being bred are of no value and the people doing this will be breeding cats to make money.
@BigCatRescue Zoos and breeding facilities do not have the resources to keep all of the young big cats. This is why the ones not chosen to continue in breeding programs are sold to private owners, duh. They don't just hand them out willy-nilly either. Any and all big cat traders I have contacted insist on rigorous measures and interviews to ensure the cats are going to good homes. While I personally would not want a Tiger, If there are people willing to pay and care for them, why not?
I cant believe how dumb you people are! Really like retared dumb! The fact you seem so ignorant in what it takes to own a big cat, is even more reason for you not too! I dont know why I am even bothering telling you people this, its just stupidity to even think about owning a big cat.
We suck then, no good can come from owning a wild exotic cat as a "pet" for you or the animal, we have so many cats at the sanctuary that are former pets, that people wanted to offload after they realized they had made a big mistake, stick to domestic cats!
sorru but i think this is bullshit or maybe im ignorant, you dont want people to own these type of animals cuz they keep them in cages but you still keeping them in cages your self so whats the point ? plus i dont think a big cat would feel bad for being pampered and cuddled every day ... if you can afford their expenses im gonna get a licence for them its ok in malta as long as you treat them well and i think im gonna aim for a jaguar...
We rescued all our cats from situations, where they were no longer wanted mostly former "pets" without us they would have been killed. We provide a permanent home for our cats and educate the public about the the huge problem of private ownership of big cats in order to put a stop to it. Cuddling a big cat of any kind is a very bad idea, as is owning one as a "pet" especially for these wild animals that get stuck in small caes for the rest of their lives please reconsider.
It costs us $7500 a year to feed a lion/tiger, then you have specialist vet care, they can live to be 20+, become very unpredictable, spray to mark their territory and if you want to go on vacation what do you do with your jaguar? Maybe rescue a domestic cat, as I know there are so many strays in Malta. Do you know of anybody in Malta who already owns a big cat? Thanks for your comment.
@BigCatRescue When you go on vacation you hire a professional big can trainer to look after it.... you also alert your veterinarian, and get the two talking to work out any potential problems that might happen. OR, as I plan to do, you have family that are used to handling the animal come and take care of it. You could also have the enclosure have a partition so that the animal is in one half while they put out food, or clean the area etc. It is completely doable....
wild cats only become bad pets when they are caught adult already, but if you pet a wild cat at its early, surely it will learn to love its owner.. although its not advisable to pet them. but better keep them in zoos if poacher will not stop killing them in the wild..
omega45red, yeah they will learn to love their owner till they get hungry. Their instincts will tell them that humans are nice food and you can't burke their instincts so easily. So its better to let them in their territory. if poachers will not stop, then we had to stop these poachers.
Hi, yeah we've all heard the story of Christian the lion and the bad thing about that is people want to experience the same thing of sharing a bond with a tiger or lion. I don't know the whole story about Christian and the video but that clip is definitely not the way big cats normally react to people. All wild cats make very very bad pets and live miserable lives in small cages. None of them are tameable and can be very unpredictable, bobcats & cougars kill deer, so people would be just as easy
Yep, you're right to be afraid they grow very quickly, think about this it costs us $7500 a year to feed a tiger, they were meant to roam hundreds of square miles not to languish in a cage, they live over 20 years, require expensive vet treatment, and if you want to go on vacation what are you gonna do with your 500lb tiger!!???????????
....I'll get flamed for this no doubt, but I kind of oppose this. Sure, leopards and tigers and lions are just not pets. But lynxs and bobcats are actually really passionate and good when you train them PROPERLY. But, the bigger the cat, the worse it is.
You might get a few exceptions, but we have to turn away hundreds of cats that people don't want any more because they're not small anymore and they are still wild animals who don't want to be trained or petted. They animals are always the ones to suffer so we are 100% against ownership of any cats other than a domestic of course:)
Is the problem here really that people want to keep exotic pets? I don't think so. It's that countries that allow ownership make it insanely easy to *legally* keep one. I wouldn't let the garbage man do brain surgery on me. Why can't we hold exotic owners to the same standards? You need to demonstrate a priori that you have the facilities and training to care for a big cat, not just keep it in a cage. I can think of a couple ways this could be done without an outright ban.
ColorPencil888, you can find answers on our main website BigCatRescue*org. Besides the large dollars it costs to feed one properly you have to consider what the personal cost to the cat is. It just isn't worth it.
thank u guys finally i no wat u guys stand for and i love it because so many people think its terrible to ban exotic animals as pets thank you guys for what you stand for i love the big cat rescue and any other wild animal rescue group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
reason4- It is my right. This to me is the weakest argument of all. Human history has shown some real atrocities commited by people who believed it to be their right. Anyways these are all the reasons why I disagree with private ownership. But I encourage everyone to look at both sides for themselves. If their reasons make sense to you,well, it takes all kinds to make up the world, but only a few to destroy it.
reason 3- the people behind the bans are fanatical crazy A.R.people. I'm sure some are, but I for one agree more with animal welfare than animal rights,I did eat a hamburger today(not saying vegetarians are crazy ppl)and i'm not a fan of PETA's extreme tatics. But I do agree with laws which prohibit animals like these being made into pets.
reason 2-there are more dog bites/car accidents/toy malfunctions/ppl struck by lightning than big cat attacks.The statistics they use are misleading and in some cases ridiculous. Firstly there are clsoe to 7.4 million owned dogs in the U.S compared to the 15000 pet tigers in the U.S There will ALWAYS be more dog bites. Does this mean a dog is more dangerous than a tiger? common sense would tell you no. As for cars and toys, comparing inanimate objects to top predators seems a tad ridiculous.
LOL I JUST got one of those comments on another video and then I come here and see this. Very very true my friend. Another reason I get is 'the wild is dwindling ' True, but that is why I support organizations that support habitat conservation like Big Cat Rescue does. We might even be able to do more for conservation and the wild populations if we didn't have to spend resources on taking care of animals owners gave up/ or mistreated.
Here are examples of wildlife conservation that BCR supports. the Snow Leopard Trust, the Jaguar Trust and Lewa Wildlife Conservancy in Kenya. In fact one of the volunteers has travelled to Lewa four times! to support conervation efforts.
Thank you Alysia02. By the way she is quite correct. If you surf our website you will find details on what Big Cat Rescue (BCR) does to participate in those conservation efforts. If you need a direct link, please let me know.
reason 1- we are saving the species. I have not found any real examples of this yet. It seems more of a way to make money.They often mix bloodlines and breed white tigers(note the ones that come out orange are usually discarded). If you are taking the propogation of the species seriously you would not engage in such practices. Not all of the big cats kept as pets, like bobcats, are endangered and therefore cannot be applied to this reasoning.
I used to be on the fence about this subject but after learning more I have to agree that these animals should not be kept as pets. The reasons private owners gave me for keeping them just were not adequate.
nobody should own those... they need to kill other animals for need in the wild rather than humans in our territory where they might get killed after they attack... thats what puts humans at fault... but still...
these videos are hardly neccesary. people will still do the same thing, despite your efforts.... sorry, but its true...
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More regulation is not the answer. The owner of the facility Haley was tragically killed in was in violation of existing rules. That is like wanting to lower the speed limit because someone wrecked while speeding. We do not need more laws, we need more responsible people held accountable.
Haley's act will reduce the amount and need for of cubs being bred only for photo ops. This reduce the overall number of unwanted big cats which we all can agree is a good thing. The more regualtions officers have to use, the better they can do their jobs.
More regulations is not the answer. This act basically says to lower the speed limit because corvettes can go too fast. Look at the door it opens up. America needs people to be held accountable both propriotor and victoms.
Stop comparing objects to animals. Animals have their own free will a corvette does not! A corvette is not naturally dangerous its is the perosn behind the wheel who has control over whether the corvette is dangerous or not.
If these people were really all that responsible places like Big Cat Rescue would not exist! If these people were responsible the tiger that was murdered in texas on christmas day would still be alive.
I encourage everyone to check out the Haley's Act and what it stands for!! It is named after Haley Hilderbrand who was killed by the tiger she was posing with at a USDA licensed facility. It was a tragic end for both Haley and the tiger.
It doesn't even make sense to me why people would want to keep these beautiful animals trapped in their house... that weighs more than they do and could easily kill someone. Honestly.
big cats are not pets!!! a tiger was found shot to death on christmas day, probably becuz it got too big for the owner to look after it. Poor tiger, these people need to be stopped!
you know whats more sad then anything?out of all the human beings and babies dying from starvation and diseases white ppl dont care about anything else but animals,so fucking sad yet dont have no problem killing millions of natives
What is very important to know is that animal conservation will NEVER work unless it has people behind it. That is why we support community programs like the snow leopard trust and lewa, and different eco lodges that bring money into the local community for them simply portecting what they have. It is taking care of people such as their wildlife.
hopefully some of those duche baggs that want to buy a tiger or something will watch this. it isnt right to own wild animals! private ownership is wrong, only in the protection of neglected and abandoned animals such as the parks around the U.S.
I don't think they should be in captivity or in private ownership either. However, i do believe that they should be in close contact so that we can help them be stronger in numbers again. So many of their natural habitats are being destroyed by us greedy humans and they have no where to go... and when they are in the proximity of humans they are considered "dangerous". They are so low in number, thus their being endangered animals. -sigh- so sad
Your common dog was once a wolf that belonged in the wild. Years of breeding and isolation from the wild has turned it into a domestic dog, now man's best friend capable of performing numerous tasks.
But many people cannot even train or understand their own dog's behavior. Dogs have even been selectively bred to respond to human behavior. These big cats have none of that genetically.
Dogs were domesticated at least 10,000 years ago, many tens of times more generations of living with people than any big cat.
For those very few that can take care of their wildcats, the majority can not! That´s why half of the cats at big cat rescue are former pets! Because people think it´s cool to get a wildcat but in the end, cant handle them.
I certainly agree that lions and tigers would be a bad gamble.
But people can and do take good care of their servals, lynxes, bobcats, et cetera. Not every wildcat owner runs out into the woods, takes a cat from the wild, and tries to place it in an unsuitable home.
Many owners do disown their wildcats. But there are many that do not and give them very good homes.
As for the housecat thing, that'd be like telling someone not to get a Burmese python. Some people do have the capabilities to take care of the animal.
Also, I've seen that many wildcat owners already own several cats. :)
Those too irresponsible to take on the duty of raising a potentially dangerous animal should stay the hell out of the way, don't get one, etc. But for those that can, they can be something marvelous.
Something marvelous for the person, as people always need to dominate over the wild. Sure some can take care of a serval, bobcat, etc and keep it in a cage in their yard. BUT they are still taking part of an industry of breeders and other owners who for sure need to clean up their act. If it was such a good thing, then sanctuaries and somtimes zoos wouldn't be full of former "pets". Humans have made a mess of the domestic cat and dog situation, but yet we want to make eveen more kinds of "pets."
That's right. Humans have been domesticating animals for thousands of years. In many cases, I've seen the animals grow up to be beautiful, loving creatures. But they're still wild animals at heart. Humans want to dominate because that's what we are. We are very controlling, manipulative creatures. This is not necessarily a good thing.
(con't.) People need to realise, though, that you are right when it comes to these wild cats. They are massive drains financially, and they do grow up. Fast. Stupid people who get their hands on these creatures do not realise that they will not be cubs forever. This is why, imo, big cats like lions, tigers, leopards, et cetera, are not creatures that are easily kept.
(con't.)I won't say it's impossible to raise a tiger and keep it for all 16 years of its life, but I'd throw my opinion in and say that most people who buy a tiger buy it on impulse, and don't know what those animals truly need to become healthy adults. The trade needs to be more regulated, because we are dealing with threatened and endangered animals. But for those animal rights activists who suggest setting all exotic "pets" free, that would be cruelty on an immeasurable scale.
I do not believe any old person should have access to owning an exotic animal. Too many people are irresponsible. There are many who are not. We often only see the bad side of owning exotic animals, and we dare not look at the stories of success, out of fear that our agenda may not seem so realistic after all.
The "agenda" of cleaning up the animal industry is a good one. Only until recent people have learned of private tiger breeders and those keeping them in horrible conditions. Saving a species requires a lot of work, and for those who love exotics so much can become a good accredited sanctuary (since we still live in a time of over population of exotic big cats) or they can simply put their time and efforts into heping those left in the wild as we are losing that battle every day.
There is little hope to help many species of wild animals if people continue living their ridiculously lavish lifestyles without any care for the environment. I look at it as...If you don't want wild mountain lions chilling out in your backyard, then don't destroy all of their habitats. Unnnnfortunately, it's not doing much, and people insist on living as high and mighty as they can, without any regard for anything else.
I hope to own a serval one day. I know many things about these cats. I know that where I currently live, it's illegal. I will NOT risk the life of a wildcat just to buy one on impulse. People who do that, then get their cat confiscated or dump it off somewhere, make me sick. These creatures and us can co-exist, be it in captivity, or the wild.
(They also spray, and this cannot be trained out of them.) I know that you have to jump through numerous hoops and obstacles just to own one, and taking care of one is a HUGE commitment. You are taking care of an animal that is not domesticated, and you're relying on your abilities to gain its trust. You have to have respect for the animal, and you have to have respect for its instincts that cannot be trained out of them. IE: Spraying.
In conclusion, I, personally, don't think people should be able to own "big" cats (Lions tigers, etc). The smaller cats, like servals, lynxes, bobcats (which are supposed to be moody little buggers), Geoffry's cats...I don't have as many qualms with because they're not as dangerous. Any animal can snap. But if you know how to handle the situation, and the animal properly, you have a better chance of not getting yourself maimed.
Dogs, statistically, are extremely dangerous in comparison to the number of serval attacks. But cat bites are very dangerous, even the domesticated ones, if they puncture the skin. People need to understand what it means to get an exotic animal. You're not just getting some 'ol animal. You're getting an animal with special needs and requirements, with the added fact that these animals aren't used to humans. Many people fail to realise that, and give good owners a bad name.
There are many times more dogs in captivity than big cats. I think you're looking at the wrong statistic. Dogs are actually for their numbers much less dangerous than captive big cats.
Even the "smaller" wild cats are NOT good candidates for pets. All cats' claws are razor sharp, the pounds of pressure in their jaws is staggering. Also exotic animals often have special diet needs. Please leave all these animals where they belong...in the wild or a sanctuary.
We need more regulation on this matter. Banning private ownership is probably a good thing, as a rule. Then having a strict oversight inspection organization for those organizations that are permitted to have them.
I'm really worried about tigers in the wild. The captive bred stock of tigers cannot be reintroduced into the wild. Billy Arjan Singh released a captive tiger into the wild in either Nepal or Northern India, and the cat suffered very much.
I agree, there are more captively bred tigers than in the wild and they cannot be re-introduced into the wild. most of those tigers are white, which are genetic anomalies. I am glad that most of the people on here reolize that wild cats should not be captive. its hard majoring on tiger conservation, and seeing things like this.
There are also many people that disown their dogs, house cats, and horses. Should we also ban those animals? NO!!! Because like there are good dog and horse owners, there are also good exotic pet owners.
I believe Sigfried and Roy are a good example for not getting overconfident with big cats. Even by playing they can injure or kill you. If you show any weakness, they see themselves dominant and attak you. It has happened in a zoo around here. The cat trainer who trained them from babys on, was eaten by his tiger because he became dizzy and fell on his knees.
That is a good point and it what we tell people all the time. Roy was probably the best tiger trainer in the world and he treated that cat like his own child. And look what happened. Tigers will always be wild, and it is what makes them what they are as well as where they belong.
In general, bringing an animal into your home that will be able to break a bull sambar's or wildebeest's neck as an adult is a very STUPID idea. As others have said here, you may be able to take a big cat out of the wild, but you can't ever take the wild out of the cat.
People that own exotic animals don't realize that it needs nutrients, habitat and life enhancement specific to that animal. People say "I would love to have a tiger as a pet" but when that cute cub grows into a sexually mature adult people lock it into a cage and forget about nutrition and other needs. Thank you Big Cat Rescue for what you are doing to educate the uneducated.
Lynx can live to be 16+-in captivity, so let us know. The system right now does NOT work. Any animal lover would be sick to see how many exotics are in horrible situations. All sanctuaries are filled up. So for anyone that may be able to take care of it (but isn't providing the life it would have in the wild, as it probably doesn't hunt or have free will to roam) they would understand why there still needs to be tougher laws.
The phrase "domestic cat" is an oxymoron. Someone who keeps wild cats as pets is just a plain moron.
drinksmokelie 1 week ago
i wish i had a big cat haha but not that big cat
MyCatlover10 2 months ago
@BigCatRescue I think cougars would make a good pet, don't you think ?
nasermeter 3 months ago
@nasermeter No, the simple fact is no wild species of cat makes a good "pet" no matter what you do to try and tame them they will still have their wild instincts and always be unpredictable and dangerous, no matter how well you think you know them or how much you love them.
BigCatRescue 3 months ago
@BigCatRescue how do I apply for this job? by the way I'm being serious
nasermeter 3 months ago
@nasermeter We are always looking for good volunteers/Interns. Please visit our website BigCatRescue*org for more info about these opportunities :)
BigCatRescue 3 months ago
@BigCatRescue But what if I live in Latin America?
nasermeter 3 months ago
Titling in the video comes out muddy at the submitted resolution/compression chosen. May I suggest redoing the text in the video for resubmission to youtube? I know RED is being used because the video is about a warning... maybe orange for the captions with each big cat and red text on yellow background at the end? (yellow is pretty commonly used for CAUTION, so it could be considered relevant).
ghostbuild 6 months ago
@ghostbuild It's a very old video, good suggestions for future videos though, thanks :)
BigCatRescue 6 months ago
People actually try to compare domesticated dogs with big cats? Are they insane? Tigers and lions have existed for many centuries. If they could be domesticated, it would've happened centuaries ago! God didn't give them powerful strenghs and fangs, and craws for nothing you know. They are made to hunt down animals including humans! You can take the big cats out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of a big cat! Think about that.
AdvertChild98 6 months ago
lions and tigers i would say no. every other one would make a good pet as long as you had wide open land id imagine. we do have some pretty big and vicious dogs as pets as it is that are just as dangerous. gotta take the right precautions is all
HVAC1337NJ 9 months ago
By the way... I did find most of the sources I got my facts from, (from the comment you didn't want to approve [yet?]). They're quite credible - US government documents don't lie. But if you don't want to post them, that's fine; I told you I'm not trying to be rude here- just trying to share the facts with everyone. :/
ChocolatePheonix 10 months ago
And I'm still not trying to be rude, but can someone please explain to my why you're all in support of making all big cats extinct? I definitely feel like I am missing something... ( i-newswire. com/big-cat-rescue-ceo-s-20-year-plan/94831 )
And if you approved my other comment to Apharot about Fleeflies post, hold on before you snap at me and call me a liar - I know I've read those from multiple credible sources, and one from only one, butIcantfindthemrightnow,soImightnothavetherightfactsnow.
ChocolatePheonix 10 months ago
@ChocolatePheonix Why do you think we are trying to make big cats extinct? We RESCUE captive big cats and we support conservation efforts for wild big cats....
BigCatRescue 10 months ago
@BigCatRescue It says so in YOUR plan. And you intend on banning all credible places from being to rescue cats, unless they're under your control. You won't give conservation efforts a chance and just plan on them all dying while they're in your hands. You want to be the only one to keep them, while you already turn down hundreds of cases because you can't keep them. I don't understand how you don't think you're forcing them into extinction?
ChocolatePheonix 10 months ago
@ChocolatePheonix I think you're confusing extinction (wild cats) with privately owned cats (captivity) we definitely 100% want to see the private ownership of these cats come to an end, these cats don't deserve a miserable life in a tiny backyard cage just because someone wants to own a tiger, this is wrong. Banning the private ownership of these cats will not effect cats in the wild at all.
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
@BigCatRescue You said so yourself that tigers in the wild have no real chance of survival - at the rate they're going, I think they're supposed to go extinct in the wild by 2015 ?
The ones that live in captivity are the only ones that can keep the species alive- you're not even going to give a chance for conservation efforts to work (if we end up successfully saving wild territory for them to live we could eventually release some.) So you are just asking them all to die; it Does affect them.
ChocolatePheonix 9 months ago
@ChocolatePheonix We never said t hat wild tigers don't have a chance of survival. Big Cat Rescue is part of the International Tiger Coalition and we are part of the goal to double the amount of wild tigers by 2022. It's definitely possible and we're doing our part to make it happen. Tigers that live in accredited facilities with species survival plans can help preserve the species but tigers in backyards will never play a part in the conservation of tigers.
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
@BigCatRescue And it wouldn't let me add it because I ran out of room again, but I guess a difference in opinion too on how tigers are kept - I support responsible keeping of species like tigers because I have seen them happy or at Least moderately content in captivity, so I don't view it as a bad thing.
I do think animals should be free, but since they can't survive on their own, I'd like to see them alive - I have seen a couple that live poorlythoughandshouldbeabletogosomewheretheycanbehappy
ChocolatePheonix 9 months ago
@ChocolatePheonix You're wrong of course these animals can survive in the wild, we just need to preserve habitat and educate people, locking wild cats in backyards for the sake of our own egos is never going to be good for the animals or the people who are attacked by someone's "pet"
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
@BigCatRescue But in the end human needs are going to come first, the human population is growing and its going to keep growing no matter what environmentalist and conservtionists and caring people do. In the end the only option will be keeping them in captivity zoos dont have the facilitys to maintain specimans of species but its possible with enough people in the private sector granted they are given the chance, cus lets face it where running out of time tigers are do to be extinct in 12 year
TheSolaceDream 9 months ago
@TheSolaceDream Tigers aren't going to be extinct if we act now and positive changes are being made and if we preserve enough habitat they will be just fine. Right now keeping tigers in backyards etc... is not needed and will never be needed to preserve the species so we should put an end to this animal abuse
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
@BigCatRescue How do you figure? I would rather see them in the hands of caring people then the risk of getting poached. There are more responsible owners in the private sector then you realize. Granted there are owners who dont care for these animals properly but that is no reason to ban them. Granted I dont think a person who has a 9 to 5 job should get a tiger. But those who are dedicated animal lovers that wish to have them for the right reasons should be able to have them.
TheSolaceDream 9 months ago
@TheSolaceDream There is no right reason to own a tiger, they're WILD ANIMALS that kill things the size of people in the wild and kill people when in captivity. Tigers bred in backyards will never play a part in tiger conservation, wild tigers have pure genetics, backyard tigers as we call them have been cross bred with other sub species and sometimes inbred. If we protect habitat in the wild and educate local people and make them see that live tigers are just as valuable as dead ones.
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
@TheSolaceDream We can save the tiger in the wild. People owning tigers in the USA as "pets" just fuel the trade in exotic pets which are captured in the wild and transported overseas. Many states only require that the animal be in a cage large enough for it to stand up and turn around in, this is definite animal abuse to us!
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
@TheSolaceDream Thats what wild life reserves are for.
JJcx82 1 month ago
@BigCatRescue I think so too- but only if we actually take action to do that; but what you guys are doing goes completely against that. You aren't putting strong efforts to actual education and preserving habitat, and you're just forcing everyone to give up their cats to live in your back-yard, or just kill them. And once again, attacks are very rare among big cat "pets" and other.
If you can prove to me you're doing other, I'll back off- I've just seen so much proof otherwisethatI'mskeptical.
ChocolatePheonix 9 months ago
@ChocolatePheonix We are constantly making efforts to educate and play a part in many conservation programs, but we are only one non-profit organization with minimal staff. We want to ensure that this abuse doesn't continue in the future, attacks from captive "pets" are not that rare, but they shouldn't be happening that is the point we're making, we have to stop this crazy practice of having tigers living in backyards! Please visit our website: BigCatRescue*org to learn about all that we do :)
BigCatRescue 9 months ago
@imtheuser12345 Size has nothing to do with it. However cougars are generally friendlier, and are not endangered so they can be fixed. Either way you still need a big cat trainer to work with you and the cat to teach you both how to interact with each other.
Henrika16 11 months ago 2
@Henrika16 No privately owned cats can be released into the wild. Cougars may be more talkative but they are definitely not "friendly", the bottom line is that no big cats should be kept as "pets"
BigCatRescue 11 months ago
i know they are bad pets this is why i don`t realy like people who keep big cat as pets unless if they were rescued as a cub or anything o3o i don`t really get what im saying......
pichurulz1 1 year ago
so ture.
youhaveknowidea 1 year ago
welll...... this si so ture
youhaveknowidea 1 year ago
Oops, I meant I wouldn't enter the sanctuary, there'd be no cage, lol.
XSPStudios 1 year ago
And I'd have it walled off from my residence (which, I'd imagine would have a few square miles or so of its own property). Best part is that 3 sides of the property would be protected against burglary!
XSPStudios 1 year ago
@XSPStudios hah sotrue
comanderkuddles 1 year ago
If I were that rich, I'd probably be a private owner, but I'd be the private owner of a big cat sanctuary, NOT a petting zoo.
They need 40 square miles per tiger and a good supply of natural prey (and thusly forest).
I wouldn't enter the cage. I'd use a helicopter if I needed to intervene (like if a plague is killing them).
XSPStudios 1 year ago
@XSPStudios wholy shit 40 square miles? themost i would be able to provide is ike 15 to 20 acres. thats why i am getting a serval cat. and i agree that lions and tigers and big cats like that should be banned from the trade, but smaller cats ike servals should be ok, depenng on the ownr
comanderkuddles 1 year ago
For one to say that "big cats dont make good pets" it seems like an oxymoron. 30,000 years ago, im sure wolves made bad pets, but now we have domesticated dogs. You guys keep sliding on that statement... "go get a dog" first of all dogs are decendents of domesticated wolves, secondly im not a dog person, i like cats. And domesticated cats are decendents of servals that were domesticated in north africa around 7,000 years ago. All common pets today were once wild animals.
humanpotential7 2 years ago 2
lol You think all the wild animals can transit from wild into domestication? Think again. Tigers and lions have existed for centuries. If they could ever be tamed like dogs, they would've become a household pet like dogs long time ago. However, the reason why they still need to be locked in cages or are showing aggressiveness toward human being because they can never be pets. If you think they can be pets, fine, try live in a cage with a tiger or lion to see what happen. You are such an idealist
AdvertChild98 2 years ago
10,000 to 15,000 tigers are owned by private citizens or institutions in the U.S. Why are people not being mauled and killed daily if tigers are berserk animals that all snap and kill people? Also, how can serious taming of big cats happen when people, like you, whine about it and get it banned? Did you know that silver foxes were domesticated within the last 50 years? According to your logic this isn't possible since they should have been domesticated 1000's of years ago if they could be.
Fleefles 2 years ago
Big cats will never be tame, they may appear so to some point and then the next minute they might attack you! These are wild animals with wild instincts that will never be lost, there are many, many big cat incidents each year, this is why we whine about it and try to get the private ownership of these cats banned along with other things.
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
"there are many big cat incidents each year, this is why we try and get private ownership banned."
No, that's not why. If that was the reason, you'd also be trying to get dog ownership banned, Domestic dog attacks send 368,000 victims to the ER every year (1,008 per day)
armygunner23 1 year ago
We don't dispute the facts you listed, we can only do so much though and the problem we have chosen to focus on is the abuse of big cats :)
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
@armygunner23 Unfortunately, what you are NOT including in this, is the FACT that those dogs tend to be more aggressive breeds owned by irresponsible owners, or dogs that were raised to be mean. In my life I've owned dobermans, german shepards, chows, labs, and mutts. Not one has ever attacked anyone else. In the case of big cats, that's not an option. A house cat will swipe at you if angered. Now imagine a 300 lbs lion doing that. VERY poor comparison.
apharot 1 year ago
@apharot A house cat will swipe sure, but not before showing some kind of body language. One of my cats is half feral and she can go from cuddles to drawing blood in a matter of seconds. There are subtle things to watch for though, like the rippling of her back, and sudden flicking of her ears. Other than that there is no warning - she will still be purring as she attacks. You have to be able to read body language to interact safely with ANY animal. It's all about training and using your head.
Henrika16 11 months ago 2
lol ok.Thanks for replying
bluegama500 1 year ago
@Fleefles Think, please. A domesticated house cat is likely to attack and bite/scratch you just for making it mad, or it could be protecting something. Now imagine a full grown tiger doing that. Imagine playing with your tiger and it gets carried away (like most cats do at some point in their life). You went from having a pet to dead, and the cat will take the blame and be punished by death because the owner was too stupid to think of the consequences.
apharot 1 year ago
@apharot The difference between keeping a house cat and a tiger is a that a house cat is a pet, and a "pet tiger" is really the wrong name. If someone keeps a tiger its more like a hobby because there are rules to interact safely with these animals. You would NEVER "play" around a tiger unless you WANT to get killed. Interacting with a "pet tiger" means going through training routines, watching their reactions, never going in the enclosure by yourself etc. Please don't assume people are idiots.
Henrika16 11 months ago 2
@Henrika16 Yup. Kind of like the pet lionfish point of view - admire and care but no touchie. ;-D
KawaiiKemonomimi 10 months ago
@humanpotential7 Domesticated cats are not the descendants of servals. They are the descendants of the African Wildcat, a cat that is the same size as a domestic cat.
CanadaIndieFilm 9 months ago
If I become rich or something like that I will make a OCELOT reabilitation center and release them back in to the wild in cuba because there is the strongest laws for exotick animals as cocodriles falcons and other species like that of course there is no ocelot in cuba but it is a good place for them to be free there is no deforestation and its like 70 or 80 % forest jungle and mountains that will be my plan for the ocelot future and they just dont harm ppl thats cool I love them
tusobreviviente 2 years ago
they aslo keep them like this so people can see what they are and how much danger they are in
catsmungrump 2 years ago
these people dont keep these animals as pets they keep them in enclosures to keep them from extinction and breed them. most of these cats like the bobcats are rescude from freeways or badly injured
catsmungrump 2 years ago
BCR does not breed their cats. Funny how BCR doesn't think cats should be privately owned when they own them themselves...if life in captivity for them is so terrible, humanely euthanize them.
Fleefles 2 years ago
@Fleefles LOL!!! Yeah, because keeping them after some private owner/small zoo/road side circus was done with them/closed up shop/didn't want them anymore is bad. They would either be dead, or let loose. If they were returned to the wild, they would die. Can you please think before you post again? Thanks.
apharot 1 year ago
so would it be considered a pet if you had them in big rezerves but they where gated to protect aginst others
FlashMob22 2 years ago 4
We don't consider big cats as "pets" no matter how they are kept, these are wild animals with wild instincts, they shouldn't be privately owned by anyone.
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
@BigCatRescue shut the fuck up because im getting a fucking black and white tiger cub then get a bigger land and keep it in a environment meant for it with all the shit it need's and black and white tiger's are meant for pet's because they cant live in the wild because there mutation so top that bitch
jordanruleswii4 1 year ago
@jordanruleswii4 I don't think we can top that, good luck finding a black tiger.
BigCatRescue 1 year ago
@jordanruleswii4 If my other comment got approved (It might not have) But now I forgot what I put- but big cats can make great companions if you raise them properly, and are generally quite safe - there's approximately 1 death a year by big cats, while, for example, there are approximately 17,000 deaths by simply falling. Btw, he's referring to white tigers(w/ black stripes = blk&wht I suppose). And they weren't Meant for pets, but simply proof of being born in captivity and are tamer as result.
ChocolatePheonix 10 months ago
@ChocolatePheonix Big cats will ALWAYS make terrible "pets" no matter what you do and your "facts" are wrong also.
BigCatRescue 10 months ago
@FlashMob22 thats for an entirely different reason called protection from poacher and to save the m from extinction you idiot.
6318374 4 months ago
Yes agreed big cats do not make good pets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now why is it that some people need to be constantly informed about this...its like the dont shake your baby warnings, god some people are just plain stupid
missworld121314 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment! We agree 100%
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
I know!!! I was watching weird true and creepy, and this idiot had a mountain lion as a pet! One day his choice of keeping that animal is going to come back and bite him. LITERALLY!
bloodtiefangirl 2 years ago
Have you seen "Randy Miller"? hes on youtube promoting cruelty, I cant believe the selfishness of this man, using these cats for fame and money and even egging the cat on to attack him
Disgusting! I hope he gets put out of business
Fight0Tyranny 2 years ago
He's the guy who trains exotic animals for the entertainment industry right?
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
Yup, disgraceful individual.
Fight0Tyranny 2 years ago
So nobody is allowed to own exotic animals except for you guys? Do you realize how selfish this is?
Let's say I created an artificial habitat for exotic cats just like yours or even better, I still wouldn't be allowed to own and take care of exotic animals under your stupid laws.
The laws should be that if you have an adequate habitat and take an test or something then you SHOULD be allowed to own these animals.
Restricting the freedoms of the american people is unconstitutional and cruel.
BrettDunbar 2 years ago
Caging wild animals seems cruel to us. Our cats were rescued from different situations without us they would of ended up in far worse conditions or been destroyed. The sad thing is it's legal to own these cats in over half of the united states.
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
its not selfish these animals cant be returned to the wild and where else are they gonna go
well if you did have a greater amazing enclosure dont even think of buying the cats, because there are so many big cats in circulation you wouldn't have to pay, and if you met the criteria of law and got the respect of these people you could probably have another haven for these cats
restricting your freedom to dominate, would your place be controlled who would check on you for abuse issues, private no!
whiteman59 2 years ago
Uneccessarily restricting the freedoms of wild animals is equally cruel too. These people actually go out and save big cats that otherwise would have been killed or lived a worse lifestyle then when they were picked up. They don't cage wild animals just to have them as pets.
holasweety 2 years ago
Besides, if you were going to have a better sanctuary for these cats, would you know how to handle them without hurting them? Would you know how to be cautious around them? Would you have enough money, enough time to take care of them? Owning a big cat is far more than just having a cage and adequate food.
holasweety 2 years ago 2
@holasweety If you have the money, which you kind of have to have in order to have the land needed and to purchase the food, you would obviously employ the help of a professional big cat trainer.... All successful owners of big cats, if you ask them go "We had a trainer work with us since she/he was a cub". They also have them spayed/neutered if they are not endangered, as with house cats there is always the possibility of getting violent after maturing
Henrika16 11 months ago
Which is (as far as you experienced it)
the most dangerous big cat to deal with
even in a protected and professionally
advanced context ?
indigoblue555 2 years ago
Well all of them are dangerous and can all be very unpredictable when they want to be. But I would say leopards, smaller, more agile and very smart.
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
@BigCatRescue - I feel thankful for your patient replying to my frequent answers:)
your committed infos allow people to get closer to these magnificent creatures in a proper way.
indigoblue555 greeting you all.
indigoblue555 2 years ago
i prefer large carnivorous monitor lizards.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 2 years ago
You retarted big cat rescue
CarpetReticulated 2 years ago
Fuck you all who preech about the "saftey Hazard" of keeping a pet big cat Hell most of them are helping by breeding em and plus its a choice to keep such dangeous animals so what the fuck gives you the right to attempt to control our choices in pets so, ill bet you also support the HR 669 bill!
CarpetReticulated 2 years ago
You're right unfortunately people in over half of the USA still have the choice to own big cats. Only accredited zoos/facilities are helping by breeding big cats in captivity any privately owned cats being bred are of no value and the people doing this will be breeding cats to make money.
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
@BigCatRescue Zoos and breeding facilities do not have the resources to keep all of the young big cats. This is why the ones not chosen to continue in breeding programs are sold to private owners, duh. They don't just hand them out willy-nilly either. Any and all big cat traders I have contacted insist on rigorous measures and interviews to ensure the cats are going to good homes. While I personally would not want a Tiger, If there are people willing to pay and care for them, why not?
Henrika16 11 months ago
I cant believe how dumb you people are! Really like retared dumb! The fact you seem so ignorant in what it takes to own a big cat, is even more reason for you not too! I dont know why I am even bothering telling you people this, its just stupidity to even think about owning a big cat.
Emily3875 2 years ago
weel i respect what your doing but there are some people who care for there pet big cats
chremis 2 years ago
This is true, but caring about an animal doesn't make it right.
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
but are you not also caring for the animal
firegirl26 2 years ago
big cats should be allowed as pets i really want alynx so you suck if you think they should be band
chremis 2 years ago
We suck then, no good can come from owning a wild exotic cat as a "pet" for you or the animal, we have so many cats at the sanctuary that are former pets, that people wanted to offload after they realized they had made a big mistake, stick to domestic cats!
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
sorru but i think this is bullshit or maybe im ignorant, you dont want people to own these type of animals cuz they keep them in cages but you still keeping them in cages your self so whats the point ? plus i dont think a big cat would feel bad for being pampered and cuddled every day ... if you can afford their expenses im gonna get a licence for them its ok in malta as long as you treat them well and i think im gonna aim for a jaguar...
glennbun420 2 years ago
We rescued all our cats from situations, where they were no longer wanted mostly former "pets" without us they would have been killed. We provide a permanent home for our cats and educate the public about the the huge problem of private ownership of big cats in order to put a stop to it. Cuddling a big cat of any kind is a very bad idea, as is owning one as a "pet" especially for these wild animals that get stuck in small caes for the rest of their lives please reconsider.
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
It costs us $7500 a year to feed a lion/tiger, then you have specialist vet care, they can live to be 20+, become very unpredictable, spray to mark their territory and if you want to go on vacation what do you do with your jaguar? Maybe rescue a domestic cat, as I know there are so many strays in Malta. Do you know of anybody in Malta who already owns a big cat? Thanks for your comment.
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
@BigCatRescue When you go on vacation you hire a professional big can trainer to look after it.... you also alert your veterinarian, and get the two talking to work out any potential problems that might happen. OR, as I plan to do, you have family that are used to handling the animal come and take care of it. You could also have the enclosure have a partition so that the animal is in one half while they put out food, or clean the area etc. It is completely doable....
Henrika16 11 months ago
wild cats only become bad pets when they are caught adult already, but if you pet a wild cat at its early, surely it will learn to love its owner.. although its not advisable to pet them. but better keep them in zoos if poacher will not stop killing them in the wild..
omega45red 2 years ago
omega45red, yeah they will learn to love their owner till they get hungry. Their instincts will tell them that humans are nice food and you can't burke their instincts so easily. So its better to let them in their territory. if poachers will not stop, then we had to stop these poachers.
JoTheGunny 2 years ago
Hi, yeah we've all heard the story of Christian the lion and the bad thing about that is people want to experience the same thing of sharing a bond with a tiger or lion. I don't know the whole story about Christian and the video but that clip is definitely not the way big cats normally react to people. All wild cats make very very bad pets and live miserable lives in small cages. None of them are tameable and can be very unpredictable, bobcats & cougars kill deer, so people would be just as easy
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
Yep, you're right to be afraid they grow very quickly, think about this it costs us $7500 a year to feed a tiger, they were meant to roam hundreds of square miles not to languish in a cage, they live over 20 years, require expensive vet treatment, and if you want to go on vacation what are you gonna do with your 500lb tiger!!???????????
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
....I'll get flamed for this no doubt, but I kind of oppose this. Sure, leopards and tigers and lions are just not pets. But lynxs and bobcats are actually really passionate and good when you train them PROPERLY. But, the bigger the cat, the worse it is.
JenTheGothKid 2 years ago
You might get a few exceptions, but we have to turn away hundreds of cats that people don't want any more because they're not small anymore and they are still wild animals who don't want to be trained or petted. They animals are always the ones to suffer so we are 100% against ownership of any cats other than a domestic of course:)
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
You don't go up to any type of exotic pet while there eating that's just plain stupid.
JuJumonster628 3 years ago 2
agreed!
BigCatRescue 2 years ago
Is the problem here really that people want to keep exotic pets? I don't think so. It's that countries that allow ownership make it insanely easy to *legally* keep one. I wouldn't let the garbage man do brain surgery on me. Why can't we hold exotic owners to the same standards? You need to demonstrate a priori that you have the facilities and training to care for a big cat, not just keep it in a cage. I can think of a couple ways this could be done without an outright ban.
Grak70 3 years ago
i wonder how much it costs to raise big cats as pets in the US.
colorpencil888 3 years ago
ColorPencil888, you can find answers on our main website BigCatRescue*org. Besides the large dollars it costs to feed one properly you have to consider what the personal cost to the cat is. It just isn't worth it.
BigCatRescue 3 years ago
ouch
zebrastripe51 3 years ago
lol of course they make bad pets .
imagine being bit by a cat, it hurts.
imagine being bitten by a dog,it really hurts.
now imagine being bitten by a lion.say good by to your arm,because it aint yours anymore.
neonoutlaw007 3 years ago 11
@neonoutlaw007 omg thats funny
misscheif007 11 months ago
thank u guys finally i no wat u guys stand for and i love it because so many people think its terrible to ban exotic animals as pets thank you guys for what you stand for i love the big cat rescue and any other wild animal rescue group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PunkChic029 3 years ago
reason4- It is my right. This to me is the weakest argument of all. Human history has shown some real atrocities commited by people who believed it to be their right. Anyways these are all the reasons why I disagree with private ownership. But I encourage everyone to look at both sides for themselves. If their reasons make sense to you,well, it takes all kinds to make up the world, but only a few to destroy it.
bengali4tigers 3 years ago 7
reason 3- the people behind the bans are fanatical crazy A.R.people. I'm sure some are, but I for one agree more with animal welfare than animal rights,I did eat a hamburger today(not saying vegetarians are crazy ppl)and i'm not a fan of PETA's extreme tatics. But I do agree with laws which prohibit animals like these being made into pets.
bengali4tigers 3 years ago 6
reason 2-there are more dog bites/car accidents/toy malfunctions/ppl struck by lightning than big cat attacks.The statistics they use are misleading and in some cases ridiculous. Firstly there are clsoe to 7.4 million owned dogs in the U.S compared to the 15000 pet tigers in the U.S There will ALWAYS be more dog bites. Does this mean a dog is more dangerous than a tiger? common sense would tell you no. As for cars and toys, comparing inanimate objects to top predators seems a tad ridiculous.
bengali4tigers 3 years ago 7
LOL I JUST got one of those comments on another video and then I come here and see this. Very very true my friend. Another reason I get is 'the wild is dwindling ' True, but that is why I support organizations that support habitat conservation like Big Cat Rescue does. We might even be able to do more for conservation and the wild populations if we didn't have to spend resources on taking care of animals owners gave up/ or mistreated.
allysia02 3 years ago 4
Here are examples of wildlife conservation that BCR supports. the Snow Leopard Trust, the Jaguar Trust and Lewa Wildlife Conservancy in Kenya. In fact one of the volunteers has travelled to Lewa four times! to support conervation efforts.
allysia02 3 years ago 2
Thank you Alysia02. By the way she is quite correct. If you surf our website you will find details on what Big Cat Rescue (BCR) does to participate in those conservation efforts. If you need a direct link, please let me know.
BigCatRescue 3 years ago
reason 1- we are saving the species. I have not found any real examples of this yet. It seems more of a way to make money.They often mix bloodlines and breed white tigers(note the ones that come out orange are usually discarded). If you are taking the propogation of the species seriously you would not engage in such practices. Not all of the big cats kept as pets, like bobcats, are endangered and therefore cannot be applied to this reasoning.
bengali4tigers 3 years ago 4
I used to be on the fence about this subject but after learning more I have to agree that these animals should not be kept as pets. The reasons private owners gave me for keeping them just were not adequate.
bengali4tigers 3 years ago 7
Thankyou! there are too many people who think its alright to keep wild animals (not just big cats) as pets. people who believe this are all scum!
Edvenuz 3 years ago 2
of course they make bad pets! people they are wild animals and if youre going to keep them as pets you should be...um...put in bad people jail!
oopsiedoop 3 years ago 6
well of course big cats make bad pets!
bakabakashii!
nobody should own those... they need to kill other animals for need in the wild rather than humans in our territory where they might get killed after they attack... thats what puts humans at fault... but still...
these videos are hardly neccesary. people will still do the same thing, despite your efforts.... sorry, but its true...
SJproductionz 3 years ago
they make bad pets indeed
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BigCatRescue 3 years ago
More regulation is not the answer. The owner of the facility Haley was tragically killed in was in violation of existing rules. That is like wanting to lower the speed limit because someone wrecked while speeding. We do not need more laws, we need more responsible people held accountable.
drillerdominique 4 years ago
Haley's act will reduce the amount and need for of cubs being bred only for photo ops. This reduce the overall number of unwanted big cats which we all can agree is a good thing. The more regualtions officers have to use, the better they can do their jobs.
BigCatRescue 4 years ago
More regulations is not the answer. This act basically says to lower the speed limit because corvettes can go too fast. Look at the door it opens up. America needs people to be held accountable both propriotor and victoms.
drillerdominique 4 years ago
Stop comparing objects to animals. Animals have their own free will a corvette does not! A corvette is not naturally dangerous its is the perosn behind the wheel who has control over whether the corvette is dangerous or not.
RachelB417 4 years ago 5
If these people were really all that responsible places like Big Cat Rescue would not exist! If these people were responsible the tiger that was murdered in texas on christmas day would still be alive.
RachelB417 4 years ago 3
I encourage everyone to check out the Haley's Act and what it stands for!! It is named after Haley Hilderbrand who was killed by the tiger she was posing with at a USDA licensed facility. It was a tragic end for both Haley and the tiger.
RachelB417 4 years ago
It doesn't even make sense to me why people would want to keep these beautiful animals trapped in their house... that weighs more than they do and could easily kill someone. Honestly.
Petlove1995 4 years ago
big cats are not pets!!! a tiger was found shot to death on christmas day, probably becuz it got too big for the owner to look after it. Poor tiger, these people need to be stopped!
howlingwild 4 years ago
you know whats more sad then anything?out of all the human beings and babies dying from starvation and diseases white ppl dont care about anything else but animals,so fucking sad yet dont have no problem killing millions of natives
Exterminateisback 4 years ago
What is very important to know is that animal conservation will NEVER work unless it has people behind it. That is why we support community programs like the snow leopard trust and lewa, and different eco lodges that bring money into the local community for them simply portecting what they have. It is taking care of people such as their wildlife.
BigCatRescue 4 years ago
hopefully some of those duche baggs that want to buy a tiger or something will watch this. it isnt right to own wild animals! private ownership is wrong, only in the protection of neglected and abandoned animals such as the parks around the U.S.
nbeagle74 4 years ago
I don't think they should be in captivity or in private ownership either. However, i do believe that they should be in close contact so that we can help them be stronger in numbers again. So many of their natural habitats are being destroyed by us greedy humans and they have no where to go... and when they are in the proximity of humans they are considered "dangerous". They are so low in number, thus their being endangered animals. -sigh- so sad
studioskim3 4 years ago
Many people cannot understand or train their own dogs. And dogs have been selectively bred to communicate with people.
Do you think that keeping a wild carnivore of any kind is a good idea?
Many people don't even understand their dogs, much less wild creatures with a much more reactive wiring.
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
The title is WILD ! and that is where they should be, no wild animal should be kept in a cage.
pauline608 4 years ago
Your common dog was once a wolf that belonged in the wild. Years of breeding and isolation from the wild has turned it into a domestic dog, now man's best friend capable of performing numerous tasks.
masterlu21 4 years ago
But many people cannot even train or understand their own dog's behavior. Dogs have even been selectively bred to respond to human behavior. These big cats have none of that genetically.
Dogs were domesticated at least 10,000 years ago, many tens of times more generations of living with people than any big cat.
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
For those very few that can take care of their wildcats, the majority can not! That´s why half of the cats at big cat rescue are former pets! Because people think it´s cool to get a wildcat but in the end, cant handle them.
jonina109 4 years ago
never heard of quaddesh eh
superdupersonic 4 years ago
the total power they have is overwhelming..
kitcatnos2000 4 years ago
I certainly agree that lions and tigers would be a bad gamble.
But people can and do take good care of their servals, lynxes, bobcats, et cetera. Not every wildcat owner runs out into the woods, takes a cat from the wild, and tries to place it in an unsuitable home.
Many owners do disown their wildcats. But there are many that do not and give them very good homes.
Akarin1992 4 years ago
Con't:
As for the housecat thing, that'd be like telling someone not to get a Burmese python. Some people do have the capabilities to take care of the animal.
Also, I've seen that many wildcat owners already own several cats. :)
Those too irresponsible to take on the duty of raising a potentially dangerous animal should stay the hell out of the way, don't get one, etc. But for those that can, they can be something marvelous.
Akarin1992 4 years ago
Something marvelous for the person, as people always need to dominate over the wild. Sure some can take care of a serval, bobcat, etc and keep it in a cage in their yard. BUT they are still taking part of an industry of breeders and other owners who for sure need to clean up their act. If it was such a good thing, then sanctuaries and somtimes zoos wouldn't be full of former "pets". Humans have made a mess of the domestic cat and dog situation, but yet we want to make eveen more kinds of "pets."
BigCatRescue 4 years ago
That's right. Humans have been domesticating animals for thousands of years. In many cases, I've seen the animals grow up to be beautiful, loving creatures. But they're still wild animals at heart. Humans want to dominate because that's what we are. We are very controlling, manipulative creatures. This is not necessarily a good thing.
Akarin1992 4 years ago
(con't.) People need to realise, though, that you are right when it comes to these wild cats. They are massive drains financially, and they do grow up. Fast. Stupid people who get their hands on these creatures do not realise that they will not be cubs forever. This is why, imo, big cats like lions, tigers, leopards, et cetera, are not creatures that are easily kept.
Akarin1992 4 years ago
(con't.)I won't say it's impossible to raise a tiger and keep it for all 16 years of its life, but I'd throw my opinion in and say that most people who buy a tiger buy it on impulse, and don't know what those animals truly need to become healthy adults. The trade needs to be more regulated, because we are dealing with threatened and endangered animals. But for those animal rights activists who suggest setting all exotic "pets" free, that would be cruelty on an immeasurable scale.
Akarin1992 4 years ago
I do not believe any old person should have access to owning an exotic animal. Too many people are irresponsible. There are many who are not. We often only see the bad side of owning exotic animals, and we dare not look at the stories of success, out of fear that our agenda may not seem so realistic after all.
(Youtube and the 500 chara limit suck.)
Akarin1992 4 years ago
The "agenda" of cleaning up the animal industry is a good one. Only until recent people have learned of private tiger breeders and those keeping them in horrible conditions. Saving a species requires a lot of work, and for those who love exotics so much can become a good accredited sanctuary (since we still live in a time of over population of exotic big cats) or they can simply put their time and efforts into heping those left in the wild as we are losing that battle every day.
BigCatRescue 4 years ago
There is little hope to help many species of wild animals if people continue living their ridiculously lavish lifestyles without any care for the environment. I look at it as...If you don't want wild mountain lions chilling out in your backyard, then don't destroy all of their habitats. Unnnnfortunately, it's not doing much, and people insist on living as high and mighty as they can, without any regard for anything else.
Akarin1992 4 years ago
I hope to own a serval one day. I know many things about these cats. I know that where I currently live, it's illegal. I will NOT risk the life of a wildcat just to buy one on impulse. People who do that, then get their cat confiscated or dump it off somewhere, make me sick. These creatures and us can co-exist, be it in captivity, or the wild.
Akarin1992 4 years ago
(They also spray, and this cannot be trained out of them.) I know that you have to jump through numerous hoops and obstacles just to own one, and taking care of one is a HUGE commitment. You are taking care of an animal that is not domesticated, and you're relying on your abilities to gain its trust. You have to have respect for the animal, and you have to have respect for its instincts that cannot be trained out of them. IE: Spraying.
Akarin1992 4 years ago
In conclusion, I, personally, don't think people should be able to own "big" cats (Lions tigers, etc). The smaller cats, like servals, lynxes, bobcats (which are supposed to be moody little buggers), Geoffry's cats...I don't have as many qualms with because they're not as dangerous. Any animal can snap. But if you know how to handle the situation, and the animal properly, you have a better chance of not getting yourself maimed.
Akarin1992 4 years ago
Dogs, statistically, are extremely dangerous in comparison to the number of serval attacks. But cat bites are very dangerous, even the domesticated ones, if they puncture the skin. People need to understand what it means to get an exotic animal. You're not just getting some 'ol animal. You're getting an animal with special needs and requirements, with the added fact that these animals aren't used to humans. Many people fail to realise that, and give good owners a bad name.
Akarin1992 4 years ago
There are many times more dogs in captivity than big cats. I think you're looking at the wrong statistic. Dogs are actually for their numbers much less dangerous than captive big cats.
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
Even the "smaller" wild cats are NOT good candidates for pets. All cats' claws are razor sharp, the pounds of pressure in their jaws is staggering. Also exotic animals often have special diet needs. Please leave all these animals where they belong...in the wild or a sanctuary.
Szheherazad 4 years ago
We need more regulation on this matter. Banning private ownership is probably a good thing, as a rule. Then having a strict oversight inspection organization for those organizations that are permitted to have them.
I'm really worried about tigers in the wild. The captive bred stock of tigers cannot be reintroduced into the wild. Billy Arjan Singh released a captive tiger into the wild in either Nepal or Northern India, and the cat suffered very much.
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
I agree, there are more captively bred tigers than in the wild and they cannot be re-introduced into the wild. most of those tigers are white, which are genetic anomalies. I am glad that most of the people on here reolize that wild cats should not be captive. its hard majoring on tiger conservation, and seeing things like this.
nbeagle74 4 years ago
Thank you Akarin1992.
sandymonitor 4 years ago
There are also many people that disown their dogs, house cats, and horses. Should we also ban those animals? NO!!! Because like there are good dog and horse owners, there are also good exotic pet owners.
sandymonitor 4 years ago
I believe Sigfried and Roy are a good example for not getting overconfident with big cats. Even by playing they can injure or kill you. If you show any weakness, they see themselves dominant and attak you. It has happened in a zoo around here. The cat trainer who trained them from babys on, was eaten by his tiger because he became dizzy and fell on his knees.
KungVanargand 4 years ago
That is a good point and it what we tell people all the time. Roy was probably the best tiger trainer in the world and he treated that cat like his own child. And look what happened. Tigers will always be wild, and it is what makes them what they are as well as where they belong.
BigCatRescue 4 years ago
While true of any exotic this is most true of tigers. In the wild they have the highest human kill count of any big cat.
Norokrex 3 years ago 3
not all big cats act that way as i sed before some people have other big cats since babies and the cats are extremely attached to them
FR35HC 4 years ago
I agree, big cats don't make good pets. They're born hunters.
Xanxer 4 years ago
Big Cats are bred here in the US for the pet trade. Many of these private breeding compunds are being exposed after years of flying unde the radar.
BigCatRescue 4 years ago
In general, bringing an animal into your home that will be able to break a bull sambar's or wildebeest's neck as an adult is a very STUPID idea. As others have said here, you may be able to take a big cat out of the wild, but you can't ever take the wild out of the cat.
critterfreak83 4 years ago 3
I agree with you fellas. Don't take wild animals from their homes.
killingyouguy3 4 years ago 2
Good video, we should not take wild animals out of their habitats, it is bad enough that we destroy their forests and hunt their prey.
perrofrio 4 years ago
People that own exotic animals don't realize that it needs nutrients, habitat and life enhancement specific to that animal. People say "I would love to have a tiger as a pet" but when that cute cub grows into a sexually mature adult people lock it into a cage and forget about nutrition and other needs. Thank you Big Cat Rescue for what you are doing to educate the uneducated.
TwoFox 4 years ago 2
Lynx can live to be 16+-in captivity, so let us know. The system right now does NOT work. Any animal lover would be sick to see how many exotics are in horrible situations. All sanctuaries are filled up. So for anyone that may be able to take care of it (but isn't providing the life it would have in the wild, as it probably doesn't hunt or have free will to roam) they would understand why there still needs to be tougher laws.
BigCatRescue 4 years ago
I could tell you stories of people who kept cougars. BAD idea. So many private zoos get these cats in bad shape. Definitely NOT pets. Nope.
artbyjjdd 4 years ago