i myself, am confused. i'm confused as to why i bought this system when it came out... purchased at least 30 games for it, and could not find one title that held my attention for more than a few seconds (save alien vs. predator) i am also confused as to why nobody ever gave a crap to use the so-called 64-bit system to create a game that even came close to looking like anything better than what the snes could do with the superFX chip. i'm not only confused by it, i'm dumbfounded.
@deadline27 Nothing better than the SuperFX chip?! LOL! Now I'm dumbfounded...
Cybermorph, Battlemorph, Iron Soldier, Iron Soldier 2, Battlesphere, Zero 5, etc.
I can't believe you've never heard of those.
Out of those 30 titles, you didn't even have Cybermorph or Iron Soldier?! Both look YEARS beyond anything that was done with the SuperFX chip. The amount of colors onscreen ALONE outclasses it (of course, it should, since it's 64-bit.)
i thought cybermorph actually looked like superfx graphics... never had battlemorph... iron soldier i had for some other system (can't remember) never even heard of zero 5. i may overstated how many games i had... AvP, club drive, checkered flag, kasumi ninja, ultra vortek, some motorcross game, raiden, cybermorph, tempest 2000, (fun) those are the ones i remember right off hand but i know there were more. i was just very disappointed with the "64 bit" capabilities of this "64 bit system"
@deadline27 Well, some of those games came out later in the Jaguar's life, which happens with every console -- developers learn the system better and make cooler games. The Jaguar was obviously doomed by then, though.
Others were disappointed by the Jaguar, but it's important to realize it wasn't the "capabilities" of the Jaguar that brought it down -- it was management who chose to just do a bunch of ports from 16-bit machines.
The jaguar could do some amazing things that you probably don't even realize. Check out my videos on some of those games I mentioned and you'll see.
The problem was not the system itself, but how it was largely untapped by developers. You can blame that on its lack of development tools provided from Atari.
Sorry that I came across harsh, but it's difficult educating so many people who come in and just say things like "jag is crap" without really knowing.
@deadline27 SuperFX could never pull off Cybermorph, maybe the 32X could if it tried though. But it doesn't matter since Cybermorph was boring as fuck, good graphics or not.
You're taking some of the worst examples of "graphical prowess" and making your comments based on those?!
I'm so glad I got a Jaguar, because there's no way in hell I could see a game like Battlesphere, Zero 5, Battlemorph, etc, etc, on any system that came before.
Oh , irc BS you mentioned came out a good time AFTER the jaugar died
and in 2000 , The dreamcast - ps2 could do just slightly better than jaguar.
Only slightly , you know... i wouldn't want to upset Jaguar "ohmygodthatgamewithjustonedotthatmovesaroundthescreengameissounderratedn00bz" Gods with the above statement
Not only that, but BS came out a good time AFTER the jaguar died... and it was basically a homebrew effort! And by homebrew, I mean they were never paid by Atari to do anything with that game. They paid for development and materials out of pocket.
...who said the Jag was almost as good as the DC & PS2?
I said, "I'm so glad I got a Jaguar, because there's no way in hell I could see a game like Battlesphere... on any system that came before."
Where did I state anything about systems that came out AFTER the Jaguar?
If you're going to play the "this game is better cuz it looks nicer" game, then the good games didn't come out until the 360 and all other before were outclassed.
This new generation doesn't know what makes a good game.
Just so I'm clear... no DUH consoles that came out AFTER the Jaguar would have better LOOKING games. New technology = better graphics. You can't even compare the Jaguar to the PS2. That's stupid.
It still kicked the 3DO's butt, though. The 3DO had a big collection of stupid video-based games that sucked. There were a few good games.
Oh by kicked 3DO's butt you mean like...3DO had Need for Speed ( textured and impressive ) and Jaguar had ...hmm? Checkered Flag? No wait! Club Drive ! No wait :( i give up. Jaguar wins hands down. rrright.
Or maybe the fact that 3DO had StarFighter? Oh no wait, flat shaded polygons are soo 64 bits raw power rawr. yeah right.
Oh and i will list every awesome 3DO game, so much for "only FMV games console " shows how much 3DO you actually played.
Space Hulk , Need For Speed, Road Rash , Cannon Fodder, Out of This World , Flashback , Quarantine , StarFighter , Super Street Fighter II X , Samurai Shodown , Star Control II , Alone in The Dark (1 only , 2 sucked ) , Bust a Move , Crash N Burn , Deathkeep , The Horde , Killing Time , Lucienne's Quest , Madden , FIFA IS , Panzer General , Return Fire , Wolfenstein 3D , Wing Commander III , Shockwave .
So much for a "silly" FMV games only console, huh?
This goes to show how great Jaguar games could've looked, had Jaguar developers actually had good 2-D artists. Even though I was a huge Jaguar fan, back in the day, the art was hardly ever up to par with potential.
In contrast with the way Jaguar developers worked, Neo Geo games concentrated on solid gameplay and 2-D graphics, which resulted in some of the best games in video game history.
As far as I can tell (since the developer has left the Jaguar scene) this project has been dropped.
If we're talking in hypotheticals, this game most likely would have been brought to us on both CD & cart, because Rastersoft's first Jag game was done on both.
Now I'm not sure what's going to happen with this game.
Rumor has it that Charles has signed on with a small group of developers (who haven't actually released anything yet) to create a game -- but not this one...
That would be the Obliterator project ;) However.. we havn't heard from him in awhile so as of yet no code is written.. The graphic work is on track however.
Is there an update? It looks like it could be a really cool 2 player co-op beat'em up game where you escape from prison or something.
xenomorpher 1 year ago
@xenomorpher No update. It seems the developer lost interest in developing for the Jaguar. I believe he sold most of his dev equipment.
viMasterJag 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
do the math... jag = shit.
deadline27 2 years ago
@deadline27 I'm confused... that isn't math at all.
Go troll elsewhere... and you might want to go back to remedial math.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
i myself, am confused. i'm confused as to why i bought this system when it came out... purchased at least 30 games for it, and could not find one title that held my attention for more than a few seconds (save alien vs. predator) i am also confused as to why nobody ever gave a crap to use the so-called 64-bit system to create a game that even came close to looking like anything better than what the snes could do with the superFX chip. i'm not only confused by it, i'm dumbfounded.
deadline27 2 years ago
@deadline27 Nothing better than the SuperFX chip?! LOL! Now I'm dumbfounded...
Cybermorph, Battlemorph, Iron Soldier, Iron Soldier 2, Battlesphere, Zero 5, etc.
I can't believe you've never heard of those.
Out of those 30 titles, you didn't even have Cybermorph or Iron Soldier?! Both look YEARS beyond anything that was done with the SuperFX chip. The amount of colors onscreen ALONE outclasses it (of course, it should, since it's 64-bit.)
viMasterJag 2 years ago 2
i thought cybermorph actually looked like superfx graphics... never had battlemorph... iron soldier i had for some other system (can't remember) never even heard of zero 5. i may overstated how many games i had... AvP, club drive, checkered flag, kasumi ninja, ultra vortek, some motorcross game, raiden, cybermorph, tempest 2000, (fun) those are the ones i remember right off hand but i know there were more. i was just very disappointed with the "64 bit" capabilities of this "64 bit system"
deadline27 2 years ago
@deadline27 Well, some of those games came out later in the Jaguar's life, which happens with every console -- developers learn the system better and make cooler games. The Jaguar was obviously doomed by then, though.
Others were disappointed by the Jaguar, but it's important to realize it wasn't the "capabilities" of the Jaguar that brought it down -- it was management who chose to just do a bunch of ports from 16-bit machines.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
@deadline27 ... continuing...
The jaguar could do some amazing things that you probably don't even realize. Check out my videos on some of those games I mentioned and you'll see.
The problem was not the system itself, but how it was largely untapped by developers. You can blame that on its lack of development tools provided from Atari.
Sorry that I came across harsh, but it's difficult educating so many people who come in and just say things like "jag is crap" without really knowing.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
@deadline27 SuperFX could never pull off Cybermorph, maybe the 32X could if it tried though. But it doesn't matter since Cybermorph was boring as fuck, good graphics or not.
CatsBunniesDucksMice 1 year ago
Oh my god, i m so glad i got a Jaguar because there s no way in hell i could see a game like this on another console!
BeckTropical 2 years ago
Enough with the sarcasm.
You're taking some of the worst examples of "graphical prowess" and making your comments based on those?!
I'm so glad I got a Jaguar, because there's no way in hell I could see a game like Battlesphere, Zero 5, Battlemorph, etc, etc, on any system that came before.
Get it?
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Oh , irc BS you mentioned came out a good time AFTER the jaugar died
and in 2000 , The dreamcast - ps2 could do just slightly better than jaguar.
Only slightly , you know... i wouldn't want to upset Jaguar "ohmygodthatgamewithjustonedotthatmovesaroundthescreengameissounderratedn00bz" Gods with the above statement
BeckTropical 2 years ago
That's one of the games I mentioned... how about the others that look and play great? There are more than just those 3 that I mentioned.
kthxbye!
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Not only that, but BS came out a good time AFTER the jaguar died... and it was basically a homebrew effort! And by homebrew, I mean they were never paid by Atari to do anything with that game. They paid for development and materials out of pocket.
...who said the Jag was almost as good as the DC & PS2?
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Well you said , saying you couldn't play better games on other consoles :)
The more impressive games came out when DC and PS2 were out ( 2000 )
The "old" games were outclassed by ... texture mapped > 10 fps games on 3DO, PSX and Sat
and speaking of 2D , outclassed by pretty much 3DO, PSX and Sat
BeckTropical 2 years ago
Go back and read what I said.
You're mis-quoting me.
I said, "I'm so glad I got a Jaguar, because there's no way in hell I could see a game like Battlesphere... on any system that came before."
Where did I state anything about systems that came out AFTER the Jaguar?
If you're going to play the "this game is better cuz it looks nicer" game, then the good games didn't come out until the 360 and all other before were outclassed.
This new generation doesn't know what makes a good game.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Just so I'm clear... no DUH consoles that came out AFTER the Jaguar would have better LOOKING games. New technology = better graphics. You can't even compare the Jaguar to the PS2. That's stupid.
It still kicked the 3DO's butt, though. The 3DO had a big collection of stupid video-based games that sucked. There were a few good games.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Oh by kicked 3DO's butt you mean like...3DO had Need for Speed ( textured and impressive ) and Jaguar had ...hmm? Checkered Flag? No wait! Club Drive ! No wait :( i give up. Jaguar wins hands down. rrright.
Or maybe the fact that 3DO had StarFighter? Oh no wait, flat shaded polygons are soo 64 bits raw power rawr. yeah right.
Oh and i will list every awesome 3DO game, so much for "only FMV games console " shows how much 3DO you actually played.
BeckTropical 2 years ago
I have a 3DO, retard.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
Space Hulk , Need For Speed, Road Rash , Cannon Fodder, Out of This World , Flashback , Quarantine , StarFighter , Super Street Fighter II X , Samurai Shodown , Star Control II , Alone in The Dark (1 only , 2 sucked ) , Bust a Move , Crash N Burn , Deathkeep , The Horde , Killing Time , Lucienne's Quest , Madden , FIFA IS , Panzer General , Return Fire , Wolfenstein 3D , Wing Commander III , Shockwave .
So much for a "silly" FMV games only console, huh?
BeckTropical 2 years ago
As I said, there were a few good games.
The ratio of good to crap is just as bad as the Jag's library, though.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
And once again you put words in my mouth. I didn't say it ONLY had "silly" FMV games.
Go troll somewhere else.
viMasterJag 2 years ago
ok so he can.. pick his nose and duck. Fantastic demo here.
Janusha 2 years ago
... and it was created within just a few hours, so I'd say that's pretty good for 3 hours, don't you?
gotta love the nose-picking though :-D
viMasterJag 2 years ago
I like the art direction
DracIsBack 2 years ago
I want to believe that these comments are ironic... T_T
Vetuyasha 2 years ago
This goes to show how great Jaguar games could've looked, had Jaguar developers actually had good 2-D artists. Even though I was a huge Jaguar fan, back in the day, the art was hardly ever up to par with potential.
In contrast with the way Jaguar developers worked, Neo Geo games concentrated on solid gameplay and 2-D graphics, which resulted in some of the best games in video game history.
peepeeland 2 years ago
cd ? or cart?
paulspydar 3 years ago
Unfortunately, neither.
As far as I can tell (since the developer has left the Jaguar scene) this project has been dropped.
If we're talking in hypotheticals, this game most likely would have been brought to us on both CD & cart, because Rastersoft's first Jag game was done on both.
viMasterJag 3 years ago
Man am I dying to see this ! WOW! I love the cinema scene setting !
ArtisteArnie 4 years ago
Now I'm not sure what's going to happen with this game.
Rumor has it that Charles has signed on with a small group of developers (who haven't actually released anything yet) to create a game -- but not this one...
viMasterJag 4 years ago
That would be the Obliterator project ;) However.. we havn't heard from him in awhile so as of yet no code is written.. The graphic work is on track however.
EmOneGarand 3 years ago
Quality!!!!!!
LairdOfForsyth 4 years ago
Wow, this looks like it will be cool. Should be interesting to watch this as it develops into a complete fighter. Nice work guys.
theatarian 4 years ago
This game is gonna kick ass!!!! AWESOME!!! Rastersoft Rules!!!!!
killgore346 4 years ago
AWESOME!!!
killgore346 4 years ago
Yeehaaa!
A31Chris 4 years ago