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  • PRIDE !

  • Gay pride whooooo!

  • We have global warming, climate change,overpopulation, poverty, criminals, pollutions... all kind of puzzles to deal with and ppl are still busy hating one another! “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.” Albert Einstein

  • Gay prive all the way !(:

    Why would anyone want to hate someone for who they really are , stupid fucking people .

  • FAGGOT PRIDE

  • They are proud they assualted police? Queers have a long criminal history of violence to achieve their socialist agenda. Thry are mentally ill. Stalin did not bring utopia he brought mass murders.

  • @ToxicOdiousOne Your comment is the most moronic, idiotic post I read in a L-O-N-G time. I think you're the mentally ill one, dude.

  • @buddmar fag

  • it is an amazing film. Its a great lesson for young homosexuals who think the movement for equality just popped into existence in the 1980s. Another good one is "Word is Out"

    And to the naysayers most gay people would be the very first to lynch a child molester if given half a chance.

  • @Crustydraw actually gays and lesbians arent after children (atleast most of them)

    the ones after children are pedophiles

    get it right

  • @idaman12345 fag

  • @PreppyPoser1 is that all your little brain can do?

    spew hate

  • @Crustydraw actually most of the suicides could be attributed to sickos like you

    1 report had him as gay

    yet i have yet to read anywhere where it shows hes actually admitted it

  • LGBTs have to remember their political herstory/history. The struggels for equal social rights for everybody - everywhere! It's a matter of human rights!

    It needs a new awareness-raising in the "Queer community" against any kind of injustice and oppression! No "pinkwash" for apartheid policy in Israel-Palestine!

    No commercial Pride-Parties, while in other places LGBTs and/or women... are killed 'cause of unconventional behaviors.

    My pride is political! Where can I get this documentary? Thanks

  • I just watched this DVD earlier very fascinating GLBT History

  • Why do they like the same thing? just nasty :S

  • i'm sorry were u there? actually there? no i didn't think so

  • I'm too sexy in my leather chaps and nipple piercings. Once at the San Fran GP post-parade party, some male stripper or model let me lick the whipped cream of his hard body. I wanted to blow some cream of my own.

  • sounds like you should visit your dentist soon as that whipped cream can cause cavities! Glad to see friends in SF are still pushing the envelopes. John Scagliotti

  • It really does piss me off when you call the majority of Americans bigots. Im just explaining it in a way where trolls like you understand. In an a disrespectful wa.y If you watch vids of pro gay protesters, there screaming and yelling. The other side is not yelling and making a fool of them selfs. Dont deny it. So have some class, then you will be herd.

  • goarmy18 - Are you saying that anti-Gay bigots do not scream or yell? You sound like Glen Beck, are you a drug addict, too?

  • Atlavocate: I am removing some of your comments as well as goarmy18.. I think you thread is just not in the spirit of our site which is history and liberation and not hoggin up all the oxygen by you two going on and on. John Scagliotti, Director of After stonewall

  • Goarmy18: I am removing some of your comments as well as Atlavocate... I think you thread is just not in the spirit of our site which is history and liberation and not hoggin up all the oxygen by you two going on and on. John Scagliotti, Director of After stonewall

  • goarmy18 - The voters of California were lied to - and told that their children would be taught to become homosexual if they voted for Gay marriage - and still the bigots won by only a relatively small number of votes. This issue will be overturned by the courts or by vote after vote after vote - just as the Civil Rights bills took several votes to pass.

  • CNN today

    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Hundreds of gay men have been tortured and killed in Iraq in recent months, some by the nation's security forces, Human Rights Watch said Monday.

    Now what excuse the Nazi Muslims will find

  • @motekmotekhello thats cuz all iraqis are fags! big deal?

  • Being a rich heterosexual white male feels oddly debilitating. I feel so detached from all the fights I sympathize so greatly with.

  • JamesDisasterPunx - People used to say the same thing when I protested against racism, antisemitism and numerous other progressive causes - before Stonewall. When Gay people started fighting for their rights, I finally found a cause that affected me personally. But civil rights is everyone's battle.

  • Truth.

  • @JamesDisasterPunx You can always support my next film... we always need help, you can go to the trailer at vimeo...

  • fuck gay people you fags call me and tell me fags story oh wait what story YOU ARE GAY AHAHAHAHAHAH 1760 468 6768

  • Hell yeah dude, Fuck gay pp, they cant do shit.

  • Conversion.... Look back in the times of Medieval Conversion.. where people were forced to convert or die.... Except in this case, it's either you convert or be accepted and shown love by those who you need support from in those times of confusion.

  • This guy is so funny - all this throbbing member and bleeding anus stuff. He is clearly enjoying himself way too much to be a real Christian. He must be gay and either in complete denial or taking the mickey.... And in addition he makes hell such a hot party place. You gotta want to go there cause that is where all the cool folk will be...

  • Father, are you sure the hacker was a liberal? He/she/it may have been a Cathylick, or a Jew, or a coloured, or Hispanic, or Chinese. But we don't need to worry about it- LORD JESUS will fry him/her/it for eternity!!

  • Yes, Father- I AM WORTHY!!

  • Man I can't even believe this was so RECENT! It's crazy!!! Like can you imagine any of the L Word girls in a riot?? Ok maybe Alice or Shane. But seriously, it's crazy how far we've come. LGBT PRIDE!!!

  • coralarch,sexual perversion is sex that is outside of marriagei.e. fornication,or any form of sex with animals.

  • I think I smell a false Christian piled high with hate and bigotry. Where in secular history is this Soddom and Gomorrah? Where are the artifacts? If a city was destroyed today by an earthquake or a volcanic eruption we know through science that tectonic plate activity was to blame, not an angry murderous homophobe living in the clouds. Why do you hide behind ancient books to justify your hate towards people like me? What benefit is it to you to have a whole group of people living in misery?

  • homosexuallity and sexual perversion was the sin of Gomorrah.

  • Define "sexual perversion", please. In your case, I'd say that you classify "perversion" as any form of sex which you don't enjoy, or get, for that matter.

  • We are working on a new film about same-sex expressions in ancient times. Sodom and Gomorrah have been interpreted many ways and not always as God being upset at same-sex. It was much more complicated it seems. John Scagliotti, Director, Before Homosexuals

  • yeah because a fictional story is so true

  • Actually DThor53 and Father Bookburn, I am concerned that while we know what the sin of sodomy is, that the sin of Gomorrahry isn't adequately documented. I heard someone say that Gomorrahry is the act of fisting, but I don't trust the source. What is the sin of Gomorrah other than standing to close to Sodom ?

  • I was thinking more of Jesus- dishing out love one minute, then he wants to torture us for ever if we don't want his dubious "love"- and that makes him psychotic, just like his daddy, Yahweh. e wanted his followers to eat his flesh and drink his blood- what was he, leader of some weird vampiric cult???

  • My, we ARE in a temper today, are;'t we?? But the news about zoning laws is a good start. How do I send you my tithe?

  • coralarch,I know that my abbreviation of my name isn't a pagan god!Thor is a pagan god,but my abbreviation isn't!God knows what's in my heart and mind!

  • coralarch,I warn out of love!I don't want their blood on my head!God tells me to warn the wicked!So I am!

  • Amen, Poop- spoken like a true loving Christian!! Jesus will surely reward you for all that cussing and abusing of infidels!!!

  • Nah I just think you wanna join us gay people. Come onnn!! ...we've got cookies!!!! =D

  • yeah whatever fucktard. did you know that lesbians are the lowest HIV group of the population? hah!

  • laskojet-"We need someone today, right now, 2009, to restart a crusade to do away with the homosexuals."

    You're in luck.

    That's just what Islamic fundementalists are doing in places like Iraq.

    Just let them know that you and they are on the same side.

    Oh Gays, is there no problem hating you can't solve?!

  • Homo men want marriage, but gay men are into group sex. If we grant gays the right to marry then Larry will not only want to marry Steve but also BIll, Ted and Mark at the same time. Gay men can experience group love in the slings of the sex clubs and the steamrooms of their bath houses. Marriage=1 man and 1 woman. Now a gay man that has become a female through sex change is a possibility since Michael may now be Michelle.

  • Right. Because if you want lots of promiscuous group sex, the first thing you do is get the state to recognize your MONOGAMOUS relationship.

    Clearly one has to be married before one can have sex with strangers.

    Just like how only gay men do group sex. That's why you cant' find women doing gang bang videos or straight men who fantasize about 3 ways.

    It's all so clear! Why didn't I realize this before?

  • The "lifestyle" is one of disease depression destruction and sadly often premature death. Monogamy is not the answer to end homosexual promiscuity. Many gays have open relationships and consensual sex with strangers and others. If gays are allowed to marry then divorce will soon follow and there would be serial monogamy.

  • so do straight people. what are you trying to say? gay means promiscuous? honey I think you've got the wrong group. I think you're talking about sluts not gay people

  • Queer men have a disproportionate number of AIDS/HIV cases in the USA Also pansies are barebacking in record numbers. Its true lesbians have one of the lowest HIV rates among sexual orientations. I would guess the lowest would be asexuals.Gay men are generally promiscuous and are into group sex.

  • what evidence are you basing these statements on? I'm not saying you're right or wrong because I haven't seen these numbers. I do know that many gay men or queer men as you say are just regular guys. They hang out, drink beer or coffee, have intellectual conversations and so on. Sexual orientation and a person's sex drive are two different things though. I love women. But if I see a few beautiful ladies I may drool over them but I can restrict myself to my one and only partner. I'm not a whore.

  • 40 years later, Gay pride in Oslo june 27 2009 selabrates Stonewall.

  • Celebrate 15 years of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender PRIDE in the Philippines, join the anniversary Pride Parade in Baguio City, the Philippines on June 28, 2009 - meeting place at the Session Road @ 8:00 a.m. - supported by Metropolitan Community Churches in the Philippines and Progay Philippines. Please bring your rainbow flags and your straight family members!

  • wooot! great vid, I dont get why so many people are opposed to it, it's not a choice, it happens, it's not wrong, it's not right, it just is, nothing is going to change it. hey, part of me wants to be straight just so I don't have to deal with the homophobia, but then I look at my girlfriend and those who gave their lives and i'm proud!

    Gay/Bi PRIDE!

  • EmOxKiTsUne: Thanks... we are in the process of doing the prequel to Before Stonewall about ancient times. As you could see before I removed a number of the religious untolerant remarks, there is quite a need to see where all this history came from... John Scagliotti, Director of Before Stonewall, now in production with Before Homosexuals.

  • Poopydoolarroo, I think you need to go into the 'reflection booth' and take a good look at yourself as I think there are some underlying issues that have not been 'truly' addressed.....maybe vent that energy elswhere like a psycho therapist and get to the 'real' depth of why you are so strong in your public display about certain 'lifestyles'.......good luck with it!!!

  • God promises that he will deal with all those who persecute his followers.If I were you I'd back off from persecuting Poopydoolaroo before God takes vengence!

  • Presuming I'm not a follower! Ho, and Abraham and Sarah were not in their 90's...

  • silly person

    god does not exist

  • Gays are here to stay, and the great thing is, people who have your views are the minority, and it shall be them who are loathed.

    I personally couldn't care less what you think, just had to reply as I think it's wierd yo clicked on this video having such a disregard for gay people.

    If i'm going to hell then bring it on, all the gay guys will be there, I can finally get a tan, and who wants angels anyway? Live your own life people :-D

  • God promises the wicked will come to nothing!So I don't think we'll have long before the Islam hang you all!

  • Well if all the gay guys are going to hell, then a lot of people in hell are going to be very upset! lol. But keep fighting for life and liberty here on earth. Peace, John Scagliotti, Director, After Stonewall.

  • poopydoorlarro: I have removed many of your silly comments... but I thought I'd keep one and not block you as of yet.

    So people can see what glbt people have to deal with in society... folks who are so rude. John Scagliotti, Director, After Stonewall

  • what's pathetic is the homosexxual lifesytyle !

  • And by the way my position is not "weak" gay men are statistically far far more successful that their straight counterparts.

  • Read Leviticus18;22.ROMANS,1CORINTH­IANS6-GOD DESTROYED SODDAM AND GOMORRAH BECAUSE OF HOMOSEXUAL MEN AND WOMEN!WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH BEFORE GOD BURNS YOU UP-ETERNALLY!

  • Where in that passage does it mention ANYTHING about homosexuality? It mentions adultery, liars, obesity and failure to repent sins even when God is staring them in the face but homosexuality, nope not there!

  • you want us to read a fictional book and believe its true?

  • Which is why Nuns exist? That passage isn't condemning homosexuality at all. Infertile and elderly people don't "bear fruit" are they unnatural? Some people just choose to not bring a child into this vastly overpopulated world. Gay men have those high statistics because of judgmental disgusting bigots like you, if it was a choice who would choose to be persecuted? You anger God when condemning homosexuality it's his creation and you suggest it's flawed.

  • God made me gay

  • Yeah no what? All these homophobs are just jelous. Don't let 'em get to you. BE GAY AND PROUD!!

  • SAVE? What does that mean? That it's evil?

  • Jake, megasarge, and Rena. I have removed a few... I think the debate on relilgion, the bible etc. is interesting, but there are many cultures that are not Christian, or Jewish, or... So at some point we need to show the whole diversity of the past cultures, and not just emphasize the Judeo Christian aspects. We are working on a new film about ancient times and same sex expressions called Before Homosexuals that makes more of my point.

    John Scagliotti, Director After Stonewall

  • I left a comment on here 6 months ago.

    Make a movie about the violence associated with gay relationships, and statistics of suicide, drug use, and depression. Unless you are like the rest of the culture that ignores all that research. Its so fun to be gay! just a big party! What a deception. Its being sold to society like a used car. Just show me the car fax!

  • mega, the only reason that gay people have higher rates of suicide, self-harm, abuse, etc. is because of the shocking amount of prejudice that some of us face on a daily basis; from people like yourself, I might add. After reading your post from six months ago, I find it quite perplexing that you can judge gay people as "nasty" and amoral. You obviously have no problem attacking and defaming people who are different from you, yet you take issue with homosexuality, which hurts no one.

  • Prejudice is why lol Right buddy. How ridiculous, all you have to do is a minor amount of research to see that's a crock. Black slaves did not go home and beat their wives, and that was REAL prejudice. Homosexuality is a disease not unlike pedophilia or a rapist. Sick disorder of sin that is spreading and we are being force fed to accept. I say NO. lol at your reasoning, you acknowledge homos have high suicide abuse, then end with hurts no one. Nice reverse straw man lol

  • Excuse me, but that is simply false. Slaves had extremely high rates of suicide, abortion, and infanticide. In retrospect, these things were obviously caused by the hardships they had to endure. The fact that you qualify that statement with the word 'real' is inconsiderate and ignorant in the extreme. You sit behind a computer screen telling me that I am "diseased" and akin to pedophiles and rapists, and then you have the nerve to say that I don't face real prejudice?

  • Yea thats right. Have you caught a beating for being gay? I doubt it. Have you had to move out of the city? Are you treated as a sub citizen? No No No. Actually to the horror of many you have been accepted as a minority. Im sick of the media portraying queers so positively. I dont want my children taught about homos. The gay agenda must be stopped

  • Thankfully, I live in a progressive city where people are ignorant troglodytes like you. So no, I never have "caught a beating" for being born. However, I still face discrimination from the federal government. To answer your question: we are treated like second-class citizens. We can't get married, join the military and we have limited adoption rights. In many states you can lose your job for being gay. This is hardly equal.

  • Sorry, I meant to say "aren't ignorant....". My bad, as they say.

  • So when you realize that you can't refute anything that I say you resort to trying to marginalize me. Nice try, but that's not going to work. If these rights are really so insignificant, then why are you so opposed to us having them? Oh that's right, because you are fully aware of how damaging it is to take these civil rights away. Good fucking job.

  • no the anti gay propaganda must be stopped

  • @megasarge31 what agenda? all gay people want is love and freedom the same things as everyone else, is that so unreasonable?

  • Pedophilia and rape are obviously not comparable to being gay in any way. Rape and pedophilia involve one person victimizing another. Gay relationships consist of two consenting adults, and that infringes on the rights of no one. And last time I checked, pedophilia and rape are both ILLEGAL, yet so-called sodomy laws have been declared unconstitutional. I suggest you take the time to actually think before you go around posting obviously false analogies.

  • Just because one is "legal" and the other is not, does not negate their correlation. Boys who are molested at childhood have a significant higher chance of turning Homo. What I hope for is you to think instead of paper mache defense.

  • Wrong! People molested as children are just as likely to grow up to be straight as those who are not molested. Please check your facts before spewing such nonsense.

  • My reasoning is perfectly logical. Bigots like yourself are the cause of most mental health problems GLBT people face. In countries where gay people have equal rights, suicide rates of gay people have significantly decreased. There is obviously a correlation between equal treatment and happiness. Homosexuality is not inherently harmful to anyone. The only problems arise when someone takes issue with how we were born. You are going out of your way to harm people, what does that say about YOU?

  • Ahhh did I harm you? lol just like a leftist extremist cal me names and exaggerate everything. Like I harmed you in any way.And you were not born that way, no matter how much you tell yourself that. Case studies ignored by the gay agenda with identical twins one gay the other not. Yet genetically identical.

    Its a choice. not unlike drugs. A disease not unlike anger. I have friends who were once Homo themselves.You have a poster stereotype of me in your head. Who's the bigot?

  • By spreading hate and misinformation about me and all other gay people, you are harming us. Your argument about identical twins is nothing more than a misunderstanding. Being gay is not necessarily genetic: most evidence shows that people are born gay because of hormones they are exposed to as a fetus. The twin studies really show that twins are both gay at a higher rate than would be possible if being gay was a choice.

  • lol s

  • They were "once" gay? They still are. You can't change your sexual orientation any more than you can change your skin color. Study after study has proven this. So-called "ex-gay" therapies have never worked for anyone. I hope your friends can come to terms with who they are.

  • lol hypocrite bigot

  • Who is the bigot now? "they cant change their sexual orientation." Hypocrite!

  • Exposing the non-existence of ex-gays is not bigotry, it's scientific fact. There are no reputable medical or psychological organizations that would ever back up your claims. In fact, numerous organizations in the US have come out saying that sexual orientation is not something that can be changed.

  • "Presume to quote scripture" you are using completely the wrong word. I am not "willfully ignorant" of scripture it is FACT Leviticus advocates slavery and selling women as property and it states that anything from the sea without fins and scales should not be eaten as it is an abomination, shellfish. Homosexuality is also mentioned in Romans which has equally ridiculous passages. It's not your place to pass judgment so don't it's simple. What was Jesus' view on being gay?

  • Jake, megasarge, and Rena. I have removed a few... I think the debate on relilgion, the bible etc. is interesting, but there are many cultures that are not Christian, or Jewish, or... So at some point we need to show the whole diversity of the past cultures, and not just emphasize the Judeo Christian aspects. We are working on a new film about ancient times and same sex expressions called Before Homosexuals that makes more of my point.

    John Scagliotti, Director After Stonewall

  • Etheridge states in the dialogue that "despite their differences, they came together that one day" and it still is consistent with today. However, as a gay man, my question is why there is this canyon of differences between hay men and lesbians. I have not felt it, but I have seen it and anyone I have ever asked, even though they feel it, do not know from whence it came? If anyone can tell me, I would be grateful. Ta!

  • The white party is an abomination. There was once a time when ppl were ashamed and hid their nasty habits and lifestyles from the rest of the wrold.

    Now they have changed the culture to their image and look whats happened to us. We are a Country with no morals. It will be our undoing.

  • Jake, megasarge, and Rena. I have removed a few... I think the debate on relilgion, the bible etc. is interesting, but there are many cultures that are not Christian, or Jewish, or... So at some point we need to show the whole diversity of the past cultures, and not just emphasize the Judeo Christian aspects. We are working on a new film about ancient times and same sex expressions called Before Homosexuals that makes more of my point.

    John Scagliotti, Director After Stonewall

  • im so gay i love you all

  • Well, this Wanda says that if you don't like it, don't do it, none of my business who munches your carpet, so it should be none of your business who munches mine. considering your name is Wanda4DecentValues, perhaps you should show the decency in yourself and live and let live.

  • Everytime I watch or read something about Stonewall, I start to cry... These people changed everything! I wish I could have been there!

  • reading about the sonewall riots and watching this kind of videos makes me get goose bumps and chills. We owe a lot to this people!

  • omfg lol that's so funny!!! P

  • f/Texas. hrmMMmmm. someone msg me im bored!! E

  • WOW,,I was 9 that yr,,,but watching what they did made my heart skip a beat.

  • god bless them and may i live my life as an example of the same courage and sacrifice everyday may we all do so!

  • Thank-you to all of those who decided they wouldn't take the discrimination anymore, because of you, I am very proude to be a gay man. My only regret is I wish I could have been there!

  • Thank you to these men and women for doing this. They gave all Gays and lesbians the curage to do the same as them to march.So people have died and others beaten but we still will mrch in every city in the world and we will still fight for our rights.

  • There are differences between gay men and lesbian women. There are different societal pressures and the experience, while similar, isn't identical.

    It's about understanding and honoring those differences. It's about fighting for equality for everyone, not just the people who look or act like you.

  • Back then all sorts of queers and gender non-conforming people stuck together and fought for their rights. Nowadays, the community is divided after the "normal acting" gays and lesbians are starting to become accepted by mainstream society. The sissies and gender non-conforming and trans, those who were picked on for being different during Stonewall and fought back, are now being marginalized (ex. HRC with ENDA). Let's not forget about the spirit of the Stonewall Revolution.

  • yes i agree that is it precisely i have been guilty of this myself unfortunately many unsung heroes have come and gone silently into the night

  • what differences? gays and lesbians are family...

  • HareKrishnaAlex: yes, I think gays and lesbians are family, but if you were to watch the film, the part before the march, a number of lesbians and gay men talk about the early 70's as being difficult for them to agree on many issues. But they did come together for the march and they have had many times since. warm regards, John Scagliotti, Director, After Stonewall, the film.

  • "Despite their differences" what? I'm a lesbian and my bestfriend for 17 years is a gay man. I get alond better with gay men then lesbians. I don't trust stright ppl at all i have my reassons why.

  • erosdq: thanks for your comment. As someone who has been in the gay movement for 30 years, I think we do a pretty good job showing those differences in our film and how they were able to overcome them and come together over the years. I am pleased to say there is sometimes good things to come from "differences" and from that we grow. I think if you were to watch the whole film you would see how we did that. John

  • ero, because no matter where you are , or who you are you will find people in your own family or your own club etc, have prejudice. Why do they, because they can.

  • "Despite their differences" - what differences? Are gays and lesbians in the US really that petty towards eachother?

  • Yes, we are.

  • You should learn from we Queers down here. Antagonism between gays and lesbians - it just lets the whole side down.

  • Strange the Gays and Lesbians get on quite well here the main problem is "straight acting" gays not getting on with "feminine" gays it's so ridiculous, but there isn't really trouble between them it's just a noticeable group divide when really the LGBT community should be embracing all.

  • The main reason the self proclaimed straight acting gays frown upon the more feminine ones is because they feel pressured by homophobes. These problems will eventually fade when people are finally allowed by their peers to be comfortable with their selves. Things are definitely changing quickly. There was a time when I had trouble making eye contact because of the dirty looks that I got but now people seem to be more accepting, never the less, we have a long way to go.

  • You'd be amazed at the amount of discrimination within the "gay community." Racism, ageism, gender, body-fascism all rank high on the list of the unacceptable. When it comes to discrimination gays give as good as they get - especially to their own.

  • "Gay acceptance" mean much more than having straights and the government accept the GLBT community...it means accepting each other as well. Discrimination is discrimination, no matter how you dress it up.

  • I find that is the case with pretty much every minority group attacking 'your own' as if that girl with her "nasty" weave or boy with smaller eyes is actually letting the side down.

  • We should get together and organize... i wish more of us weren't selling their asses to capitalism to buy more designer clothes and instead doing something about this goddamn world

  • I think Gay Pride Parades should remember the spirit of Stonewall and other gay struggles, because nowadays it's become just a street party.

  • I have seen San Diego go so far in each direction in recent years that I basically felt disillusioned and stopped going.

    I just attended to meet new people, in fact I meet my last boyfriend in San Diego in 96 and got more politically aware at the same time so the balance between party and politics can work instead of all political ranting or all parties.

  • Yeah!

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