You must be a fuckin idiot, I work for FedEx Freight, they deliver world wide 100% on time wit the utmost care on all deliveries. Go film yourself again looking like an idiot.
USPS = i ordered left 4 dead from amazon a month later (i almost forgor about it) the box was crushed and inside was my beloved left 4 dead in 6 pieces!
Cenk's comparison is very misleading. When he compares prices, he leaves out that the costs are subsidized by others paying more for their services. Much of the world has figured this out and are privatizing their postal services. When govt runs services, political decisions override profit - efficiency goes down and costs go up. For example, just look at the total labor costs. Turns out, the govt can't do anything right.
BUNK! Half the information this guy presents is flat out wrong. The other half compares apples to oranges. Not enough space here to even begin exposing the deception.
Wow, seriously? UPS and FedEx dont have services designed to handle First-Class Mail. Why dont you compare the order tracking services of UPS vs USPS , USPS' is pathetic...
USPS is a customer of FedEx Express, not the other way around. USPS contracts out their air delivery to commercial airlines, including the largest commercial air fleet in the world - which belongs to FedEx.
2006 Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act passed by the GOP and signed into law by Bush is the No. 1 reason the USPS is having trouble now. That Act requires the USPS pre-fund 100 percent of the next 75 YEARS of retiree benefits within a schedule of 10 or 1q2 years. They are prefunding benefits to employees who have NOT yet been born! Change the law, see the USPS thrive.
Where I live, my post woman delivers right to the door. UPS leaves packages in the snow or 10 houses away and FedEx is sporadic, depending on whose delivering. So far USPS 1, UPS 0 and FedEx 1/2.
hahaha .. funny how stupid people choose to pay more for fedex/ ups when most of them are delivered by UsPS. you could have saved just by using USPS. LOL
@FortitudeOfHeaven 2006 Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act passed by the GOP and signed into law by George W. Bush is responsible for almost ALL the USPS debt these past four years. The rest of their debt is due to the collapsed economy. This act requires the USPS to pre-fund at 100 percent ALL the next 75 years of retiree benefits in 10 or 12 years. No other gov. agency or private corp. is required to do this. They simply want to break the union and privatize the USPS.
For the money, sure they're doing a decent job, but on the other hand, it seems like sending packages through Parcel or Priority is slower and less reliable than the Pony Express.
The First Class Stamp is STILL one of America's BEST DEALS. Glad you agree! For the inside scoop visit youtube dot comm slash POST TRUTH. The key to USPS is expansion online. Read my comment below and don't forget the PO has Sunday and Holiday delivery in some areas. I suggest SAME DAY delivery as another service. "Crosstown."
Instead of cutting the PO, expand it! Yes, Uncle Zippy should OWN all of the zip code dot COMS. Let's start with 10012 10013 11568 11976 11962 90210 94010 07620 93108 94027 oh and throw in 90809 DOT COM in there, LB is a City of Many Firsts. Then SELL an "at90809dotCom" address to the businesses there. See where I'm going with this? (I used to own 90809 ( dot com ) but registerfly went down;)
I don't know where you get your information from, but the USPS is not funded by tax payers. I don't even have health insurance via the USPS. The only perks I am aware of is the perks Congress gets. If you don't like the USPS why don't you just pay the high fees to the competitors? If the USPS closes you will be paying a small fortune for service you will receive, and you won't have the right to complain, because they dont' care.
UPS and FedEx only exist because Congress dismantled the USPS to make way for these companies to exist. Before that there was only the USPS. UPS and FedEx are costly and are only surviving because of their contract with the USPS to fly the mail.
UPS and FedEx have to pay utilities and lots of other things that the USPS doesn't have to pay. If the USPS wasn't there FedEx would make delivery to rural areas viable. They'd do exactly what the Post Office has done and set up kiosks in the town, or have a central station where things could be picked up.
Not to mention UPS and FedEx aren't allowed to do rip offs like calling a service "Priority" and then charging more for it, but in reality it's still just a no-guarantee first class service.
@LeksServices In a youtube comment? Nah, not gonna bother. Either believe me or don't. Use Google and look it up for yourself, or call me a liar. Who cares. These are comments, not a college paper.
@Pariah1974 bullshit. Every time I have paid for 3 day delivery I have not gotten it in 3 days. The first time I paid for 3 day delivery it took 2 weeks and they would refund my payment. They have never knocked on my door even when I'm home but they leave the stickers. Their service sucks unless you're a business.
@Pariah1974 I did try to do something about it. They tried to claim it was delivered in 3 days. I called them on the third day and just kept getting transferred. The following week 3 stickers showed up on my door saying they attempted. I was home that day. I finally got the person on the phone to tell me where the package was and had to drive just outside the city to get my package. When the shipping cost for an item is $45 I expect much better service.
Sounds like choices to me. Are you stoned or something? How do you not see the contradiction in your sentence?
At the end of the day, I'd rather pay a legit company and have some sort of choice, and ability to hold them accountable than use some government funded entity that I cannot do anything about.
If you don't know how to handle a business that gives you poor service, then I can't help you. That's just basic skills.
Fedex and UPS are being paid by the USPS to transport the mail from the USPS overseas and in this country. That is why these two companies are doing so well. They are making money from the USPS.
Hi, I am a postal worker and I can tell you that the tax payer does not pay for anything for the USPS. At this time Congress is holding hostage 75 billion dollars the USPS paid to the old retirement system CSR. Congress also is making the USPS pre-pay 5.5 billions dollars a year into the general retirement fund. These moneis are being used to finance the war and pay for all federal employees currently retired. The above is why the USPS is in such a dire financial situation.
Hi, I am a postal worker and I can tell you that the tax payer does not pay for anything for the USPS. At this time Congress is holding hostage 75 billion dollars the USPS paid to the old retirement system CSR. Congress also is making the USPS pre-pay 5.5 billions dollars a year into the general retirement fund. These moneis are being used to finance the war and pay for all federal employees currently retired. The above is why the USPS is in such a dire financial situation.
We also pay for the electricity and sewer that your buildings use. Oh and then there's the amount of money that your buildings would bring in property tax revenue but don't since they are Federal property.
Anything else? Oh wait, yeah we also then pay for your health insurance and retirement packages that are miles and miles beyond what the private sector offers.
@Pariah1974 Actually you don't pay for nothing for the USPS. Property tax you have to take it up with your Congressman, the USPS don't make laws, Congress does. You don't pay for my health insurance or retirement package. The USPS does not cost the taxpayer anything, the USPS is self-supportive. If we are in this mass thank your Congressman that has misused the money paid into retirement/health insurance funds. We are not like Congress that serves one term and get 100% retirement.
@Anidjart I don't care if you make laws or not. Your statement wasn't that you don't make the laws. YOur statement was that it didn't cost the tax payer. It does cost us, both positively and in lost revenues.
I do pay for your health and retirement packages because you get them from the same pool all government employees do, where do you think that money comes from?
And as far as the rest of your barely legible reply, it shows you are clearly a government employee.
@Anidjart You seem to be confused on the concept of indirect support from tax payer dollars.
Nope. The USPS is not directly funded by US tax dollars, but many of the perks that allow the USPS to charge lower rates than the competition come from things supported by tax payer dollars. Some so closely that they may as well be tax payer supported.
The idea that the USPS is completely independent is a myth you tell yourselves to get to sleep at night.
@Pariah1974 You don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. The tax payers pays "NOTHING" in wages, rent, benefits, transportation or anything having to do with the Postal Service. If you by that 42Cent stamp to send a letter to what ever address in the "WORLD", then, you help pay for the postal service, if you don't buy a stamp, then shut up.
By the way, lets ignore the indirect money for a moment, and may I ask you how they pay for all that stuff when there are shortfalls in the USPS budget? Just curious because in a regular company they do lay offs, cut salaries of management and CEOs...how do they do it for the USPS?
Since you talked real tough I am gonna assume you know everything and will have no problem explaining it.
"The USPS now covers only two-thirds of these personnel costs, and the federal government covers the balance in "indirect subsidies."
That's from a PDf called "Curtailing Indirect Federal Subsidies to the U.S. Postal Service"
Just look that up on Google, if your big dopey cowboy doesn't get in the way of your screen. Maybe you should read a book before you play internet tough guy, huh Tex? ;)
@LFDTEXAS No reply huh? Either you can't read, so didn't read the PDF I directed to you, or you are a complete coward and can't admit you're wrong. Since you're a shit kicking Texas fuckwit, I'm gonna assume both.
I just mailed 3 boxes overseas. UPS would have charged me $513.00 dollars. I paid $165.00 via the Postal Service. We the people can help the economy by mailing our bills via the USPS. It would create jobs in the USPS and the suppliers of paper, envelopes, etc. Companies would have to hire people to process the bills mailed in, instead of laying off people like they have done since "we the people" have been using the internet to pay our bills. How many more jobs are going to be lost?
There isn't work for the sake of having work. There's work because something needs to get done. How about we ban digging machines and use shovels instead. There would be a huge boost in employment.
I am still waiting for a package from USPS, which was shipped Priority. But my other package from Fedex, is slated to come today (1 day shipping). Right now I am not happy with USPS because a different package took 2 weeks to get here and it was shipped from within the same state as me.
I love ups! They get your packages on time, give you a tracking number to know exactly where it is in the states or out of state. But usps i cant stand them, they take forever and their tracking system sucks. They only up date yours during the day were as ups updates as soon as your package has gone some where else. I have a package coming from usps and im scared their their gonna lose it or take forever to get it here. and the stuff i have coming can become liquidfied if they dont hurry up!
Postal Service is going bankrupt, so perhaps the USPS is undercharging. Fedex and UPS will in fact ship to all rural areas, just that you have to pay surcharges, so saying that they don't deliver to these areas is misleading. Fedex Ground can actually beat Priority mail for some weights and include tracking and insurance to boot.
I fucking hate UPS. I will gladly pay extra, though that's not the case, to have my shipper use the US postal service over UPS. UPS isn't faster than the postal service, it's more expensive and extremely unreliable. The postal service will deliver it to my door, and if I'm not home they drop the package off at the closest post office, which is just about any grocery or drug store.
USPS is more expensive to society as a whole. It costs society to prop up this organization. People in rural areas can still get their mail, they just have to pay for it... like everything else - when they drive into town to buy groceries, gas, etc. Last time I checked- USPS needed a bailout. FedEX and UPS aren't fair comparisons because they are TWO companies that were allowed entry into the marketplace. Tough luck for anyone else that wants to compete. There are barriers to entry!
I disagree with his assertion that UPS will not deliver to rural addresses. All US addresses are covered. However, they may avoid some locations due to perceive danger.
Most of you don't reallize that the USPS has kept Fed Ex profitable. Since 9/11 the postal service has not been able to ship mail on passanger planes. With out the USPS contract Fed Ex would most likley not be profitable. The postal service is not allowed to have it's own planes....monopoly issues..
Your mail service sucks man. I live in the Netherlands and every time I order something from the UK it takes like a month to get here. If I order from the US it just takes a week. Our countries are neighbors.
I refuse to do business with any company who does not have an internet presence. Really? this is 2010, what company restricts their customer communication to the USPS only? The USPS is obsolete and no longer needed! I haven't mailed a letter in over 5+ years, and why should I?
Is this why USPS loses my mail ?Is this why USPS loses my mail ?USPS has lost 2 vehicle titles and one birth certificate of mine in the last 4 yrs . Does Bin Laden have them?
We shouldn't be debating this. Anyone who has ever studied colonial society knows that the founding fathers pioneered by Benjamin Franklin knew long before our conception of these long standing benefits. For God's sake it's in the Constitution! Article I Section 8!
Are FedEx and UPS even geared up to deal with letters? My understanding was the Post Office had pretty much a monopoly on that sort of thing, so if I were FedEx or UPS I wouldn't really bother trying to finagle my way around the "Only USPS can do first class mail!" rules. Here's the thing, either you make the Post Office private, or you make it all the way public. It doesn't make any sense to have a government service that's self-funded - just privatize it and get some competition up in this.
@Ishinaz There is profit in anything if demand is high enough. If demand is not high enough, then there's no point having anyone do it at all. If the post office is trying to sustain itself through its own revenues as they like to claim, they should be following a similar business pattern to FedEx and UPS, if the playing field is truly level. I mean, if there's no money in shipping letters, it's not going to do the USPS any more good to do so, than it would for FedEx.
I can completely vouch for this. I'll never ship from UPS again. I shipped a shirt one time and ended up paying eight bucks. I shipped a text book from USPS and shipped it for under five.
As far as packages go I use USPS exclusively. They ship way cheaper in most cases and the stuff just gets there when it is supposed to. Also the Federal Distress guy in my area is to be blunt retarded. They nearly always leave packages on the doorstep unprotected regardless of weather and never bother with signatures on parcels requiring them. My only real gripe with my PO is they shut down for 90 minutes at noon to catch up with the morning intake because there are only two people working.
Of course, since the Post Office is a monoploy and competitors are prohibited by law from delivering first class mail, charging rates below a certain threshhold (which is the reason why some areas are not served) and are legally prohibited from using your home mailbox, while the post office doesn't have many massive expenses (insurance for vehicles as just one example) and still costs the taxpayers money, this is an unbelievably TERRIBLE example!
The Post Office's perennial financial problems are easily researched - their financial statements show half a trillion or more in "U.S. government appropriations" each year. On insurance coverage, look into sovereign immunity. Obviously they pay no taxes. Look up Lysander Spooner; he famously competed successfully with the post office but was shut down because of the government monopoly. The US Postal Code has all the regulatory details or just look up the USPS on Wikipedia!
@bobbyg640 me too, but I'd rather wait in that line than pay over $10 to mail a letter. I do actually print most of my postage online if I need to mail a package or use Priority Mail so I don't wait in line, but since they took the stamp machines away, I have to wait in line for stamps.
That's why its bullshit usually when people complain about the U.S. postal service. They've heard the "line" for so many years they feel like it's "clever" or something to parrot it. Ya know something like " you may not get it(your mail) for 10 more years ha" Or something like that. Even when they've had no or few problems with them! Since it's the government that's what they think they're supposed to say even if it's not reality. They actually do a great job considering the amount they deliver.
I've worked as a shipping/receiving person for a retail store before so I know these guys(ups) are shit first hand. They don't give a shit if you have a fragile sticker on anything, they'll load it up on the truck any kind of way and then just toss it around when it gets to the sorting place. Also these guys are highly inefficient, why the hell does everything have to pass through their central headquarters? its so they can charge you more for something that takes them no extra effort to do.
3. UPS. It fucking amazes me why so many companies have contracts with these retarded fucktards. Seriously, this are the only mail service that I've had problems with. Half the time they don't ring the fucking doorbell, even if there are specifics directions for them to do so. Then when you call the customer disservice number you get put on hold forever only to give them specific directions in which the drivers do not follow. Also, they have ONE pickup center in Chicago. WTF!
2. Fedex, ok these guys are awesome, they're fast, efficient, smart delivery guys and I trust them, they will go the extra mile to make sure they get the job done. Their tracking service is state of the art and customer service is great. The only down side is they're expensive as fuck.
I rank them like this. 1. USPS, because free saturday delivery. Instead of going to some central office, like ups, the mail goes directly from one office to another for no extra fee. Mail men have a key to every apartment building with indoor mailboxes so they can put the package right in your box if you're not home. They are much cheaper in every way. They offer the same services as the other ones for LESS. There's a post office in every neighborhood, (unlike ups/fedex)
Wow...this guy is an idiot. Doesn't he realize that USPS runs at a lost VERY year.....not to mention the fact that the service is horrible.
There's your public option for you....I bet you like the service at the DMV too right....LOL.
Also, Federal Government FORBIDS private carriers to ship first class mail (stamps) which is why you'd have to pay $10 for either UPS or FedEx since you'd be using their express mailing service. Sometimes I wonder if you guys purposely try to misinform others.
Ok, for any year the USPS made a loss fractionally add that to the price. Last time it was $4billion from a revenue of 68. So add 5% on the cost of all their services.
You still reckon a private company will deliver a letter for $<0.50? Are you serious? Do you believe they could and even would(they don't) deliver to or from any remote outpost of the US including the Hawaii islands?
I am so mad at fedex because I order something and I have been waiting 2 weeks and 3 days I am never going to order things from pro direct soccer!!!!!!!!!!
An even better one is the military, do you really think a private one would spend a perfectly good black-hawk to retrieve someone who only *could* be a alive? Do you think a commercial military wouldn't be using cheap WW2 artillery and carpet bombing killing maxim civilians just to avoid the costs of deployment and city fighting.
Conservative types acknowledge this clearly when it comes to the military but they somehow expect different when it comes to healthcare 0_o.
The best teachers the US has work for the DOD's schools for dependants. Every year they take those students who come with a mountain of paperwork from government schools on how they have learning disablities and can't learn, throw that stuff away, and teach them to read, among other things. Let us hope the federal department of education never gets its hooks in there. Also, there are several private schools in DC run by the Catholic church that are not as pricey as you seem to think.
USPS has no money back guarantee, no time commits by 10:30am, very little door to door service , FedEx Express has proven and tested to be by far the most reliable, USPS doesn't have to pay registration fees on their vehicles, USPS doesn't own any aircraft because they contract FedEx to fly their express shipments, and USPS package tracking info is extremely lacking compared to FedEx and UPS. Look, I can go on and on ! Do some better research before you go on youtube making an ass of yourself.
"USPS doesn't have to pay registration fees on their vehicles"
Neither does any other government agency. What is your point?
"they contract FedEx to fly their express shipments"
They contract with multiple air carriers.
You are primarily talking about parcel delivery, while Cenk is talking about first class letters, which the private carriers are not allowed to deliver. Although, private companies could do second and bulk, they do not. So, who is the ass?
The main problem with the USPS is they have too many high-paid managers. I have a friend who has worked at a post office in a 25k city for 12 years, she works with around 12 people at night and 4 of them are supervisors or managers who do little to nothing and get paid GOOD money. What other business has 4 managers for every 12 employees?
As for a 49 cent stamped letter, that will make it to it's destination in the same time a $5 ground or more expensive 2-3 day service from the other guys.
Excellent point. This is always the point I make. I understand that public services sometimes run at a surplus, but that surplus goes to pay for the service in the future. I don't think a public service should ever be profitable. They should never be for-profit, and if there is an issue with funding, I don't see any problem at all with raising taxes 1.5% to provide an incredible service for a fraction of the cost than the private sector.
The USPS has not used federal taxes for almsot 30 years. This is the reason the cost of first class postage keeps on going up; the USPS has no other alternative for revenue generation other than postage.
I don't understand peoples gripe with the post office. Everytime I've gone they've been friendly' courteous and professional. I've never had a letter not get there.
yeah i agree with you 110%. The postal service is one of the most efficient institutions in america. I rarely have ever had problems with them.
the only fucktards who hate the postal service are the same teabaggers who cry out dumb shit like "get your govt. out of my medicare." they just hate anything that is govt. funded and they can't get over the fact that sometimes govt. run industries aren't bad. don't bother arguing with them though, they're fucked by corporate cock.
The gripe with the Post Office is that while they're great at delivering letters and very small packages, they're total shit at delivering medium packages. Not only are the costs abysmal for medium packages in comparison to UPS, but their tracking sucks, they have the highest rates of 'lost' packages of all the three, and packages typically arrive late.
The problem isn't letters; the problem is normal packages.
Pacific Insurance company vs. Soule found that insurance is an intangible good and subject to regulation by the various states, and not the federal govt. under the inter-state commerce clause. That was a while back, more recent judicial trends of the thing were for the New Deal court, say FDR to Johnson, to greatly exand what Congress could do using it. While more recent court decisions have been steadily paring back the scope it allows Congress. see also, the Mccarren-Ferguson Act of 1945.
shoxite: Cenk did NOT do a fair comparison. UPS (United "Parcel" Service) and FedEx specialize in parcels--not letters. If Cenk wants to be fair, then he should compare the price of sending parcels between USPS, UPS, and FedEx.
comparing parcel it would be the same thing. I own 2 shopping websites online and I know for a fact the cheapest is USPS. I ship small packages and 70+ lb packages. A USPS Priority mail would cost me 5.65 USD for a 1LB box, compared to UPS 10.50 USD. I won't even talk about FedEx because their shipping rates are unbelievably expensive. Especially International shipping. Public Shipping companies all over the world are cheap as well not only in the US.
6 years ago by the way I worked as a sorter and a loader for UPS. Yes, the "P" stands for "parcel" but they do ship letters not only packages. I remember loading the trailer trucks with envelopes as well. :)
I know what you mean, when you talk about USPS leaves the packages on the steps. I hate that lol! But for 1-2 dollars more when you pay shipping, you can ask for a "signature confirmation". But I agree with you that private shipping couriers are better. USPS is just more affordable. Private shipping couriers are better because they make a lot of money off of us and thats why there service is better. P:S: UPS Left regular ground shipping box multiple times on my front door steps too.
shoxite: I'm a toy collector, and people in the collecting community tend to prefer their fragile or valuable parcels to be delivered via UPS. UPS has a superior tracking system for recipients to monitor exactly where their parcels are. The UPS delivery person will also come to your door three separate times to attempt delivery, and you sign for it. My previous apartment had mailboxes by the main entrance, and the USPS delivery person would just leave my parcels where anyone could steal them.
@TranCendenZ, I'm not sure what argument your trying to make about the Post Office, but you're proving that there is a market for what UPS, and FED-EX do, specialty carriers for unique stuff.
But that also proves there isn't a market for what the Post Office does, if we got rid of it, there simply would be no more mail.
You got it backwards. USPS employees cannot legally leave packages out. If a package cannot be left in a mailbox, or left with a front desk, a slip will be left in the box with directions on how to pick up the package at the local post office. The reason for this is it's a federal offense to open someone else's mail, and therefore also a federal offense if a mail carrier facilitates this. UPS employees can just leave packages out. They can do pretty much whatever they want with your mail.
I remember whne a stamp cost 3cents.. it didn't start going up till 1960 and then in 1970 during the oil embargo but really started going up when Reagan came into office
Nowhere in the US Constitution, either in the enurmerated powers, or elsewhere, is Congress given the authority to regulate medicine or to mandate that citizens buy medical coverage. Medical insurance, by Supreme court decision, is not interstate commerce, as is left to the states to regulate. Insurance uses risk profiles to determine which types of coverage it will sell to a person, and what catagory of premiums to charge the one. Mandating coverage for those with preexisting conditions issilly
One compared the public option to education as an example of how the federal government screws up everything it touchs. One used the DC example because it is the one school system that falls completely under the authority of the Federal department of education. If they want the rest of us to take them seriously, that is where they must do it. Also, there are several private school in DC that throw all those typical teachers unions excuses out the window and actually teach kids something.
Not to fast for me, you are simply mistaken if you think that people who cannot currently buy medical coverage are suddenly going to be able to afford the magical public option without some sort of subsidy. Provided, of course, by a federal agency. Also, the medical insurance business is not as profitable as you appear to believe, and several operate as non-profits. Kaiser Permanente, for example.
They forgot to mention how much of our taxes go toward the USPS. I'm not complaining about the post office, they do a great job, but the price of postage is not the only thing we pay for the service, the difference is that even those that don't use USPS for anything are paying for postage too.
USPS failed only once or twice to deliver my stuff which im not particularly mad about cuz i knew i was gonna get my stuff sooner or later but the price and the service they give, i think its worth it.
not to mention the services talked about before like the police force and the military, and the fire department...hey wasn't there a huge fire once, back in the day when the fire department was privatized?
Yes but the postal service like many other government services actually pay out more money than it collects, which is not a sustainable business model.
Same as:
Social Security
Medicare
and others.
I'm not bashing government but, there is definitely room for reform, especially in the case of the US postal system.
that's just not true. social security and medicare have both run a surplus every year since their inception. the issue comes when politicians use that money to pay for projects so they can avoid raising taxes or spending less. And the post office does have issues, but it gets NO TAX DOLLARS. So any issues are isolated to the post office, and don't affect the budget.
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thats a pretty weak strawman argument because the difference between the post office and private companies is the government is incompetant and stuffed with waste and beuraucrats, while the private system is EFFICIENT and works hard for low prices, and fast service. and if your willing to compromise on poor, and scarce government coverage over coverage offered by concerned fellow citizens who want to help you, even if it costs them money, well remember the holocaust and hitlers "public option"
You act like the private sector is not also plagued with incompetence, waste and beuracrates, the insurance company's alone raise prices and lower care with the help of your hated "beuraucrates" help, look at wall street, if the private sector was so smart and "efficient" like you praised they wouldn't have needed the Gov't to bail them out of epic collaspe of the our economy.
Look: you've been mislead, and you should find the courage to reconsider and investigate what you've been fed, information wise. Te private system is efficient and works hard for low prices? did you watch the whole video? have you heard of people being denied insurance because they had f*** PIMPLES as a pre existing condition?
I absolutely love the private sector competing with the public sector. However I should say that there are a lot of places where the post office will not deliver but fedex/ups will. People would have to drive to the post office far far away. I encountered that quite a bit in my old job.
Unlike the postal service in many other countries, USPS is not funded by the federal government. They receive 0 of your tax dollars. Those are the facts bud.
You must be a fuckin idiot, I work for FedEx Freight, they deliver world wide 100% on time wit the utmost care on all deliveries. Go film yourself again looking like an idiot.
Ruka40cal 2 weeks ago
Your an idiot cause little do you know usps ships letters through fedex dumbass
TheJesse24 3 weeks ago
USPS = i ordered left 4 dead from amazon a month later (i almost forgor about it) the box was crushed and inside was my beloved left 4 dead in 6 pieces!
TacticalT0MAT0 1 month ago
Cenk's comparison is very misleading. When he compares prices, he leaves out that the costs are subsidized by others paying more for their services. Much of the world has figured this out and are privatizing their postal services. When govt runs services, political decisions override profit - efficiency goes down and costs go up. For example, just look at the total labor costs. Turns out, the govt can't do anything right.
4thstuning 1 month ago
Wow subtitles suck major balls did you hired a blind deaf retarded man to do them
NataliaARose 1 month ago
BUNK! Half the information this guy presents is flat out wrong. The other half compares apples to oranges. Not enough space here to even begin exposing the deception.
jjjones01 2 months ago
Wow, seriously? UPS and FedEx dont have services designed to handle First-Class Mail. Why dont you compare the order tracking services of UPS vs USPS , USPS' is pathetic...
zwdog1122 2 months ago
USPS is a customer of FedEx Express, not the other way around. USPS contracts out their air delivery to commercial airlines, including the largest commercial air fleet in the world - which belongs to FedEx.
misschrissy027 2 months ago
2006 Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act passed by the GOP and signed into law by Bush is the No. 1 reason the USPS is having trouble now. That Act requires the USPS pre-fund 100 percent of the next 75 YEARS of retiree benefits within a schedule of 10 or 1q2 years. They are prefunding benefits to employees who have NOT yet been born! Change the law, see the USPS thrive.
kassandrasduplex 2 months ago
Where I live, my post woman delivers right to the door. UPS leaves packages in the snow or 10 houses away and FedEx is sporadic, depending on whose delivering. So far USPS 1, UPS 0 and FedEx 1/2.
BMWBiker2 2 months ago
Watch THE POSTAL WIFE on youtube and share.
thepostalwife1 2 months ago
Whichever one is the first to have a on-the-spot urgent same-day delivery within local/domestic areas gets my vote.
FortitudeOfHeaven 3 months ago
hahaha .. funny how stupid people choose to pay more for fedex/ ups when most of them are delivered by UsPS. you could have saved just by using USPS. LOL
silviasboy 3 months ago
@silviasboy Sure, but USPS is going down and is on the brink of collapse. A lot of people use FedEx or UPS just because of the name and a fancy logo.
FortitudeOfHeaven 3 months ago
@FortitudeOfHeaven yup very true and for lame reasons like that the globe knows how stupid americans really are.
silviasboy 3 months ago
@silviasboy HOORAY FOR CONSUMERISM
Ryat51 2 months ago
@FortitudeOfHeaven 2006 Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act passed by the GOP and signed into law by George W. Bush is responsible for almost ALL the USPS debt these past four years. The rest of their debt is due to the collapsed economy. This act requires the USPS to pre-fund at 100 percent ALL the next 75 years of retiree benefits in 10 or 12 years. No other gov. agency or private corp. is required to do this. They simply want to break the union and privatize the USPS.
kassandrasduplex 2 months ago
Our current system isn't a TRUE free market. That's why everything fails. We need to return to Austria economics--it's the only way that works.
hortulanus94 3 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
For the money, sure they're doing a decent job, but on the other hand, it seems like sending packages through Parcel or Priority is slower and less reliable than the Pony Express.
Cosmo1093 3 months ago
Please charge $10 min for a letter so I stop getting 20 lbs of worthless junk mail from USPS per week.
vison2create 3 months ago
The First Class Stamp is STILL one of America's BEST DEALS. Glad you agree! For the inside scoop visit youtube dot comm slash POST TRUTH. The key to USPS is expansion online. Read my comment below and don't forget the PO has Sunday and Holiday delivery in some areas. I suggest SAME DAY delivery as another service. "Crosstown."
ThePrimeSpotcom 4 months ago
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Instead of cutting the PO, expand it! Yes, Uncle Zippy should OWN all of the zip code dot COMS. Let's start with 10012 10013 11568 11976 11962 90210 94010 07620 93108 94027 oh and throw in 90809 DOT COM in there, LB is a City of Many Firsts. Then SELL an "at90809dotCom" address to the businesses there. See where I'm going with this? (I used to own 90809 ( dot com ) but registerfly went down;)
ThePrimeSpotcom 4 months ago
I don't know where you get your information from, but the USPS is not funded by tax payers. I don't even have health insurance via the USPS. The only perks I am aware of is the perks Congress gets. If you don't like the USPS why don't you just pay the high fees to the competitors? If the USPS closes you will be paying a small fortune for service you will receive, and you won't have the right to complain, because they dont' care.
Anidjart 4 months ago
UPS and FedEx only exist because Congress dismantled the USPS to make way for these companies to exist. Before that there was only the USPS. UPS and FedEx are costly and are only surviving because of their contract with the USPS to fly the mail.
Anidjart 4 months ago
UPS and FedEx have to pay utilities and lots of other things that the USPS doesn't have to pay. If the USPS wasn't there FedEx would make delivery to rural areas viable. They'd do exactly what the Post Office has done and set up kiosks in the town, or have a central station where things could be picked up.
Not to mention UPS and FedEx aren't allowed to do rip offs like calling a service "Priority" and then charging more for it, but in reality it's still just a no-guarantee first class service.
Pariah1974 5 months ago
@Pariah1974 - Evidence, please?
LeksServices 4 months ago
@LeksServices In a youtube comment? Nah, not gonna bother. Either believe me or don't. Use Google and look it up for yourself, or call me a liar. Who cares. These are comments, not a college paper.
Pariah1974 4 months ago
@Pariah1974 bullshit. Every time I have paid for 3 day delivery I have not gotten it in 3 days. The first time I paid for 3 day delivery it took 2 weeks and they would refund my payment. They have never knocked on my door even when I'm home but they leave the stickers. Their service sucks unless you're a business.
systematic101 4 months ago
@systematic101 If you paid for 3 day delivery, and didn't get it then it's up to you to do something about it.
It's not their fault you're a lazy pussy.
Pariah1974 4 months ago
@Pariah1974 I did try to do something about it. They tried to claim it was delivered in 3 days. I called them on the third day and just kept getting transferred. The following week 3 stickers showed up on my door saying they attempted. I was home that day. I finally got the person on the phone to tell me where the package was and had to drive just outside the city to get my package. When the shipping cost for an item is $45 I expect much better service.
systematic101 4 months ago
@systematic101 So use a different service. You have choices.
Pariah1974 4 months ago
@Pariah1974 Not always. Many companies are now only offering 1 option for shipping.
systematic101 4 months ago
@systematic101 "many companies"?
Sounds like choices to me. Are you stoned or something? How do you not see the contradiction in your sentence?
At the end of the day, I'd rather pay a legit company and have some sort of choice, and ability to hold them accountable than use some government funded entity that I cannot do anything about.
If you don't know how to handle a business that gives you poor service, then I can't help you. That's just basic skills.
Pariah1974 4 months ago
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i work at fedex i've never heard of us turning down service learn your stuff
matoxewu 5 months ago
i work at fedex i've neard heard of us turning down service learn your stuff
matoxewu 5 months ago
Fedex and UPS are being paid by the USPS to transport the mail from the USPS overseas and in this country. That is why these two companies are doing so well. They are making money from the USPS.
Anidjart 5 months ago 2
If that is so, why does the postal service LOSE billions of dollars per year and must be kept solvent with our tax dollars?
Doctorj63 6 months ago
@Doctorj63
Hi, I am a postal worker and I can tell you that the tax payer does not pay for anything for the USPS. At this time Congress is holding hostage 75 billion dollars the USPS paid to the old retirement system CSR. Congress also is making the USPS pre-pay 5.5 billions dollars a year into the general retirement fund. These moneis are being used to finance the war and pay for all federal employees currently retired. The above is why the USPS is in such a dire financial situation.
Anidjart 5 months ago
@Doctorj63
Hi, I am a postal worker and I can tell you that the tax payer does not pay for anything for the USPS. At this time Congress is holding hostage 75 billion dollars the USPS paid to the old retirement system CSR. Congress also is making the USPS pre-pay 5.5 billions dollars a year into the general retirement fund. These moneis are being used to finance the war and pay for all federal employees currently retired. The above is why the USPS is in such a dire financial situation.
Anidjart 5 months ago 2
@Anidjart We pay your salaries.
We also pay for the electricity and sewer that your buildings use. Oh and then there's the amount of money that your buildings would bring in property tax revenue but don't since they are Federal property.
Anything else? Oh wait, yeah we also then pay for your health insurance and retirement packages that are miles and miles beyond what the private sector offers.
Pariah1974 4 months ago
@Pariah1974 Actually you don't pay for nothing for the USPS. Property tax you have to take it up with your Congressman, the USPS don't make laws, Congress does. You don't pay for my health insurance or retirement package. The USPS does not cost the taxpayer anything, the USPS is self-supportive. If we are in this mass thank your Congressman that has misused the money paid into retirement/health insurance funds. We are not like Congress that serves one term and get 100% retirement.
Anidjart 4 months ago
@Anidjart I don't care if you make laws or not. Your statement wasn't that you don't make the laws. YOur statement was that it didn't cost the tax payer. It does cost us, both positively and in lost revenues.
I do pay for your health and retirement packages because you get them from the same pool all government employees do, where do you think that money comes from?
And as far as the rest of your barely legible reply, it shows you are clearly a government employee.
Pariah1974 4 months ago
@Anidjart You seem to be confused on the concept of indirect support from tax payer dollars.
Nope. The USPS is not directly funded by US tax dollars, but many of the perks that allow the USPS to charge lower rates than the competition come from things supported by tax payer dollars. Some so closely that they may as well be tax payer supported.
The idea that the USPS is completely independent is a myth you tell yourselves to get to sleep at night.
Pariah1974 4 months ago
@Pariah1974 You don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. The tax payers pays "NOTHING" in wages, rent, benefits, transportation or anything having to do with the Postal Service. If you by that 42Cent stamp to send a letter to what ever address in the "WORLD", then, you help pay for the postal service, if you don't buy a stamp, then shut up.
LFDTEXAS 3 months ago
@LFDTEXAS Hey look another moron who doesn't understand what the word "indirectly" means.
Pariah1974 3 months ago
By the way, lets ignore the indirect money for a moment, and may I ask you how they pay for all that stuff when there are shortfalls in the USPS budget? Just curious because in a regular company they do lay offs, cut salaries of management and CEOs...how do they do it for the USPS?
Since you talked real tough I am gonna assume you know everything and will have no problem explaining it.
Pariah1974 3 months ago
@LFDTEXAS Uh oh...looks like I was right.
"The USPS now covers only two-thirds of these personnel costs, and the federal government covers the balance in "indirect subsidies."
That's from a PDf called "Curtailing Indirect Federal Subsidies to the U.S. Postal Service"
Just look that up on Google, if your big dopey cowboy doesn't get in the way of your screen. Maybe you should read a book before you play internet tough guy, huh Tex? ;)
Pariah1974 3 months ago
@LFDTEXAS No reply huh? Either you can't read, so didn't read the PDF I directed to you, or you are a complete coward and can't admit you're wrong. Since you're a shit kicking Texas fuckwit, I'm gonna assume both.
Pariah1974 2 months ago
I just mailed 3 boxes overseas. UPS would have charged me $513.00 dollars. I paid $165.00 via the Postal Service. We the people can help the economy by mailing our bills via the USPS. It would create jobs in the USPS and the suppliers of paper, envelopes, etc. Companies would have to hire people to process the bills mailed in, instead of laying off people like they have done since "we the people" have been using the internet to pay our bills. How many more jobs are going to be lost?
Anidjart 6 months ago
@Anidjart
There isn't work for the sake of having work. There's work because something needs to get done. How about we ban digging machines and use shovels instead. There would be a huge boost in employment.
madass888 5 months ago
I am still waiting for a package from USPS, which was shipped Priority. But my other package from Fedex, is slated to come today (1 day shipping). Right now I am not happy with USPS because a different package took 2 weeks to get here and it was shipped from within the same state as me.
So cheaper isn't always better.
searchanddiscover 6 months ago
just send emails lol
7Trisanaty7 7 months ago
yes but ups is cheaper than fedex
cdoudt2017 7 months ago
I love ups! They get your packages on time, give you a tracking number to know exactly where it is in the states or out of state. But usps i cant stand them, they take forever and their tracking system sucks. They only up date yours during the day were as ups updates as soon as your package has gone some where else. I have a package coming from usps and im scared their their gonna lose it or take forever to get it here. and the stuff i have coming can become liquidfied if they dont hurry up!
hapibth0pel3ss 8 months ago
That's it I'm going to turn into Newman from Seinfeld and store everybody's mail in my closet and drive the mail truck on the highway!!!
blowupuate13 8 months ago
I have 2 interviews this week to hopefully get a job at the post office.
ericlariviere 8 months ago
Postal Service is going bankrupt, so perhaps the USPS is undercharging. Fedex and UPS will in fact ship to all rural areas, just that you have to pay surcharges, so saying that they don't deliver to these areas is misleading. Fedex Ground can actually beat Priority mail for some weights and include tracking and insurance to boot.
danohpsp 9 months ago
I too hate UPS, and wonder why when you order on the internet a thing it is always shipped by UPS. Do we have a choice?
jaimeanna1412 10 months ago
I fucking hate UPS. I will gladly pay extra, though that's not the case, to have my shipper use the US postal service over UPS. UPS isn't faster than the postal service, it's more expensive and extremely unreliable. The postal service will deliver it to my door, and if I'm not home they drop the package off at the closest post office, which is just about any grocery or drug store.
urantivirus 10 months ago
USPS is more expensive to society as a whole. It costs society to prop up this organization. People in rural areas can still get their mail, they just have to pay for it... like everything else - when they drive into town to buy groceries, gas, etc. Last time I checked- USPS needed a bailout. FedEX and UPS aren't fair comparisons because they are TWO companies that were allowed entry into the marketplace. Tough luck for anyone else that wants to compete. There are barriers to entry!
YazDawg 11 months ago
I disagree with his assertion that UPS will not deliver to rural addresses. All US addresses are covered. However, they may avoid some locations due to perceive danger.
nttconductor 1 year ago
Most of you don't reallize that the USPS has kept Fed Ex profitable. Since 9/11 the postal service has not been able to ship mail on passanger planes. With out the USPS contract Fed Ex would most likley not be profitable. The postal service is not allowed to have it's own planes....monopoly issues..
buttaflycrusher 1 year ago
We have "Privatisation" looming over here in UK. Royal Mail, is being wound up as sold off to some spivs in the "City".
wbabojo 1 year ago
@wbabojo
Your mail service sucks man. I live in the Netherlands and every time I order something from the UK it takes like a month to get here. If I order from the US it just takes a week. Our countries are neighbors.
madass888 7 months ago
I refuse to do business with any company who does not have an internet presence. Really? this is 2010, what company restricts their customer communication to the USPS only? The USPS is obsolete and no longer needed! I haven't mailed a letter in over 5+ years, and why should I?
watchingdennis 1 year ago
Is this why USPS loses my mail ?Is this why USPS loses my mail ?USPS has lost 2 vehicle titles and one birth certificate of mine in the last 4 yrs . Does Bin Laden have them?
gothicangelred 1 year ago
"I'm a cow. I just took a shit, but they call it cleaner energy these days. I do what I do, and then they do what they do......with what I DID!"
Isn't that fantastic? They have found a way to recycle cow shit!
punkeratheart 1 year ago
There's a waste of 2:28
cherrywrecker 1 year ago
We shouldn't be debating this. Anyone who has ever studied colonial society knows that the founding fathers pioneered by Benjamin Franklin knew long before our conception of these long standing benefits. For God's sake it's in the Constitution! Article I Section 8!
fritoman182 1 year ago
Are FedEx and UPS even geared up to deal with letters? My understanding was the Post Office had pretty much a monopoly on that sort of thing, so if I were FedEx or UPS I wouldn't really bother trying to finagle my way around the "Only USPS can do first class mail!" rules. Here's the thing, either you make the Post Office private, or you make it all the way public. It doesn't make any sense to have a government service that's self-funded - just privatize it and get some competition up in this.
JETZcorp 1 year ago
@JETZcorp Thing is, they would be, if there was any profit in it. There is none, that's why they want to stick to big clients as much as possible.
Ishinaz 1 year ago
@Ishinaz There is profit in anything if demand is high enough. If demand is not high enough, then there's no point having anyone do it at all. If the post office is trying to sustain itself through its own revenues as they like to claim, they should be following a similar business pattern to FedEx and UPS, if the playing field is truly level. I mean, if there's no money in shipping letters, it's not going to do the USPS any more good to do so, than it would for FedEx.
JETZcorp 1 year ago
The Post Office is in debt. UPS and FedEx are making profits. My point is, the Post Office's prices are too low for it to sustain itself.
itisaboutyou 1 year ago 2
@itisaboutyou If FedEx is making a profit, then why are they laying some of us off.
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shipituss 1 year ago
I can completely vouch for this. I'll never ship from UPS again. I shipped a shirt one time and ended up paying eight bucks. I shipped a text book from USPS and shipped it for under five.
daftdandelion 1 year ago
As far as packages go I use USPS exclusively. They ship way cheaper in most cases and the stuff just gets there when it is supposed to. Also the Federal Distress guy in my area is to be blunt retarded. They nearly always leave packages on the doorstep unprotected regardless of weather and never bother with signatures on parcels requiring them. My only real gripe with my PO is they shut down for 90 minutes at noon to catch up with the morning intake because there are only two people working.
sevnson71 1 year ago
Of course, since the Post Office is a monoploy and competitors are prohibited by law from delivering first class mail, charging rates below a certain threshhold (which is the reason why some areas are not served) and are legally prohibited from using your home mailbox, while the post office doesn't have many massive expenses (insurance for vehicles as just one example) and still costs the taxpayers money, this is an unbelievably TERRIBLE example!
FletchforFreedom 1 year ago
@FletchforFreedom
Can I know where your information come from, I mean, where can I read this please?
-QR
QhapaqRodriguez 1 year ago
The Post Office's perennial financial problems are easily researched - their financial statements show half a trillion or more in "U.S. government appropriations" each year. On insurance coverage, look into sovereign immunity. Obviously they pay no taxes. Look up Lysander Spooner; he famously competed successfully with the post office but was shut down because of the government monopoly. The US Postal Code has all the regulatory details or just look up the USPS on Wikipedia!
FletchforFreedom 1 year ago
cenk makes a good point. I damn sure can't stand USPS but I would definitely use them to send documents
kif868 1 year ago
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0xTRX007 2 years ago
I wait in a big ass line at the post office.
bobbyg640 2 years ago
@bobbyg640 me too, but I'd rather wait in that line than pay over $10 to mail a letter. I do actually print most of my postage online if I need to mail a package or use Priority Mail so I don't wait in line, but since they took the stamp machines away, I have to wait in line for stamps.
july7nyc 1 year ago
@july7nyc but it would suck if instead of stamps you were waiting in line for surgery, wouldnt it?
bobbyg640 1 year ago
@bobbyg640 yes that would suck, but what does that have to do with anything?
july7nyc 1 year ago
@july7nyc Because thats the analogy he is making in this video.
bobbyg640 1 year ago
@bobbyg640 But it still makes no sense. why woupld you wait in line for surgery?
july7nyc 1 year ago
That's why its bullshit usually when people complain about the U.S. postal service. They've heard the "line" for so many years they feel like it's "clever" or something to parrot it. Ya know something like " you may not get it(your mail) for 10 more years ha" Or something like that. Even when they've had no or few problems with them! Since it's the government that's what they think they're supposed to say even if it's not reality. They actually do a great job considering the amount they deliver.
ridewave444 2 years ago
I've worked as a shipping/receiving person for a retail store before so I know these guys(ups) are shit first hand. They don't give a shit if you have a fragile sticker on anything, they'll load it up on the truck any kind of way and then just toss it around when it gets to the sorting place. Also these guys are highly inefficient, why the hell does everything have to pass through their central headquarters? its so they can charge you more for something that takes them no extra effort to do.
blacklite911 2 years ago
3. UPS. It fucking amazes me why so many companies have contracts with these retarded fucktards. Seriously, this are the only mail service that I've had problems with. Half the time they don't ring the fucking doorbell, even if there are specifics directions for them to do so. Then when you call the customer disservice number you get put on hold forever only to give them specific directions in which the drivers do not follow. Also, they have ONE pickup center in Chicago. WTF!
blacklite911 2 years ago
2. Fedex, ok these guys are awesome, they're fast, efficient, smart delivery guys and I trust them, they will go the extra mile to make sure they get the job done. Their tracking service is state of the art and customer service is great. The only down side is they're expensive as fuck.
blacklite911 2 years ago
I rank them like this. 1. USPS, because free saturday delivery. Instead of going to some central office, like ups, the mail goes directly from one office to another for no extra fee. Mail men have a key to every apartment building with indoor mailboxes so they can put the package right in your box if you're not home. They are much cheaper in every way. They offer the same services as the other ones for LESS. There's a post office in every neighborhood, (unlike ups/fedex)
blacklite911 2 years ago
Look, how can you compare USPS to FedEx and UPS ? It's like comparing apples to oranges.
302skinny 2 years ago
Wow...this guy is an idiot. Doesn't he realize that USPS runs at a lost VERY year.....not to mention the fact that the service is horrible.
There's your public option for you....I bet you like the service at the DMV too right....LOL.
Also, Federal Government FORBIDS private carriers to ship first class mail (stamps) which is why you'd have to pay $10 for either UPS or FedEx since you'd be using their express mailing service. Sometimes I wonder if you guys purposely try to misinform others.
jsylvert 2 years ago
Ok, for any year the USPS made a loss fractionally add that to the price. Last time it was $4billion from a revenue of 68. So add 5% on the cost of all their services.
You still reckon a private company will deliver a letter for $<0.50? Are you serious? Do you believe they could and even would(they don't) deliver to or from any remote outpost of the US including the Hawaii islands?
The Burden of proof is on you to show otherwise.
CmdrTobs 2 years ago
I am so mad at fedex because I order something and I have been waiting 2 weeks and 3 days I am never going to order things from pro direct soccer!!!!!!!!!!
soccervaporboy 2 years ago
this is a great analogy to the healthcare debate.
rushindulen 2 years ago
An even better one is the military, do you really think a private one would spend a perfectly good black-hawk to retrieve someone who only *could* be a alive? Do you think a commercial military wouldn't be using cheap WW2 artillery and carpet bombing killing maxim civilians just to avoid the costs of deployment and city fighting.
Conservative types acknowledge this clearly when it comes to the military but they somehow expect different when it comes to healthcare 0_o.
CmdrTobs 2 years ago
UPS is cheaper than US Postal when it comes to large packages.
ioport 2 years ago
The USPS is billions in debt though...they would probably have to charge $10 an item to break even. Don't go all Foxnews on us, TYT.
Echo5joker 2 years ago
nationalize them!
Justice4all311 2 years ago
And why shouldn't schools be able to kick out the vermin that aren't there to learn, and who hold the rest of the students back.
franksnow79 2 years ago
The best teachers the US has work for the DOD's schools for dependants. Every year they take those students who come with a mountain of paperwork from government schools on how they have learning disablities and can't learn, throw that stuff away, and teach them to read, among other things. Let us hope the federal department of education never gets its hooks in there. Also, there are several private schools in DC run by the Catholic church that are not as pricey as you seem to think.
franksnow79 2 years ago
Of cooooooooooooourse. Its comon sense, despite what the idiotic right will have you believe.
Seleucus84 2 years ago
I prefer USPS and Fedex. When I receive packages from UPS, I feel like someone purposely drop it from a 10-story building.
f0repl4y 2 years ago
A stamp costs a few cents. Yeah, but did you take into account how much of my taxes GO to the post office?
HaleFire7 2 years ago
Zero taxes.
caxiaba 2 years ago
@HaleFire7 The Post Office does not recieve any tax money since the Postal Reorginization act in 1971 asshole.
Hope2009pc 1 year ago
USPS has no money back guarantee, no time commits by 10:30am, very little door to door service , FedEx Express has proven and tested to be by far the most reliable, USPS doesn't have to pay registration fees on their vehicles, USPS doesn't own any aircraft because they contract FedEx to fly their express shipments, and USPS package tracking info is extremely lacking compared to FedEx and UPS. Look, I can go on and on ! Do some better research before you go on youtube making an ass of yourself.
302skinny 2 years ago
@302skinny
But you have to pay $11 to get that letter there. And if you're looking for a 40 cent money back guarantee... I feel really sorry for you.
jbullaoit 2 years ago 2
@jbullaoit You feel sorry for me> Thanks. You are clueless to the facts in this industry. Just stay out of it.
302skinny 2 years ago
"USPS doesn't have to pay registration fees on their vehicles"
Neither does any other government agency. What is your point?
"they contract FedEx to fly their express shipments"
They contract with multiple air carriers.
You are primarily talking about parcel delivery, while Cenk is talking about first class letters, which the private carriers are not allowed to deliver. Although, private companies could do second and bulk, they do not. So, who is the ass?
caxiaba 2 years ago
@caxiaba You are clueless as well> your comparing apples to oranges
302skinny 2 years ago
@302skinny So, All those extras cost 24 times as much? LOL
And no private contractor has EVER stiffed the government, right???
Think about it!
johnedwards1968 2 years ago
The main problem with the USPS is they have too many high-paid managers. I have a friend who has worked at a post office in a 25k city for 12 years, she works with around 12 people at night and 4 of them are supervisors or managers who do little to nothing and get paid GOOD money. What other business has 4 managers for every 12 employees?
As for a 49 cent stamped letter, that will make it to it's destination in the same time a $5 ground or more expensive 2-3 day service from the other guys.
TheUSMetalhead 2 years ago
FED EX FOR EVER but USPS is cheaper...so keep them both :D(talking about international shipping)
UPS can suck a dick.High priced bastards,greedy fucks.
sfksoldier 2 years ago
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poja82 2 years ago
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poja82 2 years ago
@poja82
Exactly.
Joxman2k 2 years ago
postal service, hospitals, schools are NOT SUPOSED to make money, they are a PUBLIC SERVICE sustained by TAXES.
There is not in of money? Weeeell...reduce military founds, plenty of money there!
poja82 2 years ago
Excellent point. This is always the point I make. I understand that public services sometimes run at a surplus, but that surplus goes to pay for the service in the future. I don't think a public service should ever be profitable. They should never be for-profit, and if there is an issue with funding, I don't see any problem at all with raising taxes 1.5% to provide an incredible service for a fraction of the cost than the private sector.
dustinjt 2 years ago
The USPS has not used federal taxes for almsot 30 years. This is the reason the cost of first class postage keeps on going up; the USPS has no other alternative for revenue generation other than postage.
caxiaba 2 years ago
they dont allow fedex to put stuff in mailboxes or in po boxxes...
Post Office would have been gone 100 years ago but they got the government to make the other business illegal...
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
I don't understand peoples gripe with the post office. Everytime I've gone they've been friendly' courteous and professional. I've never had a letter not get there.
Yewon2001 2 years ago 14
@Yewon2001
yeah i agree with you 110%. The postal service is one of the most efficient institutions in america. I rarely have ever had problems with them.
the only fucktards who hate the postal service are the same teabaggers who cry out dumb shit like "get your govt. out of my medicare." they just hate anything that is govt. funded and they can't get over the fact that sometimes govt. run industries aren't bad. don't bother arguing with them though, they're fucked by corporate cock.
fluffynoses 2 years ago 2
@Yewon2001
The gripe with the Post Office is that while they're great at delivering letters and very small packages, they're total shit at delivering medium packages. Not only are the costs abysmal for medium packages in comparison to UPS, but their tracking sucks, they have the highest rates of 'lost' packages of all the three, and packages typically arrive late.
The problem isn't letters; the problem is normal packages.
Atheismrulez 1 year ago
@Yewon2001 apparently you've never been to a single branch of the USPS in Brooklyn.
Superfluential 9 months ago
The only thing you need to prove your case....
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halcyon0830 2 years ago
Wow, Great link.
I guess its a tribute to how great we really have it here in America that we take so much for granted.
blingbling65943 2 years ago
Pacific Insurance company vs. Soule found that insurance is an intangible good and subject to regulation by the various states, and not the federal govt. under the inter-state commerce clause. That was a while back, more recent judicial trends of the thing were for the New Deal court, say FDR to Johnson, to greatly exand what Congress could do using it. While more recent court decisions have been steadily paring back the scope it allows Congress. see also, the Mccarren-Ferguson Act of 1945.
franksnow79 2 years ago
This was an absolutely AWESOME comparison between Public and Private.
shoxite 2 years ago
shoxite: Cenk did NOT do a fair comparison. UPS (United "Parcel" Service) and FedEx specialize in parcels--not letters. If Cenk wants to be fair, then he should compare the price of sending parcels between USPS, UPS, and FedEx.
TranCendenZ 2 years ago
comparing parcel it would be the same thing. I own 2 shopping websites online and I know for a fact the cheapest is USPS. I ship small packages and 70+ lb packages. A USPS Priority mail would cost me 5.65 USD for a 1LB box, compared to UPS 10.50 USD. I won't even talk about FedEx because their shipping rates are unbelievably expensive. Especially International shipping. Public Shipping companies all over the world are cheap as well not only in the US.
shoxite 2 years ago 2
6 years ago by the way I worked as a sorter and a loader for UPS. Yes, the "P" stands for "parcel" but they do ship letters not only packages. I remember loading the trailer trucks with envelopes as well. :)
shoxite 2 years ago 2
I know what you mean, when you talk about USPS leaves the packages on the steps. I hate that lol! But for 1-2 dollars more when you pay shipping, you can ask for a "signature confirmation". But I agree with you that private shipping couriers are better. USPS is just more affordable. Private shipping couriers are better because they make a lot of money off of us and thats why there service is better. P:S: UPS Left regular ground shipping box multiple times on my front door steps too.
shoxite 2 years ago
shoxite: I'm a toy collector, and people in the collecting community tend to prefer their fragile or valuable parcels to be delivered via UPS. UPS has a superior tracking system for recipients to monitor exactly where their parcels are. The UPS delivery person will also come to your door three separate times to attempt delivery, and you sign for it. My previous apartment had mailboxes by the main entrance, and the USPS delivery person would just leave my parcels where anyone could steal them.
TranCendenZ 2 years ago
@TranCendenZ, I'm not sure what argument your trying to make about the Post Office, but you're proving that there is a market for what UPS, and FED-EX do, specialty carriers for unique stuff.
But that also proves there isn't a market for what the Post Office does, if we got rid of it, there simply would be no more mail.
No private company would take its place
blingbling65943 2 years ago
You got it backwards. USPS employees cannot legally leave packages out. If a package cannot be left in a mailbox, or left with a front desk, a slip will be left in the box with directions on how to pick up the package at the local post office. The reason for this is it's a federal offense to open someone else's mail, and therefore also a federal offense if a mail carrier facilitates this. UPS employees can just leave packages out. They can do pretty much whatever they want with your mail.
dustinjt 2 years ago
I remember whne a stamp cost 3cents.. it didn't start going up till 1960 and then in 1970 during the oil embargo but really started going up when Reagan came into office
xadam2dudex 2 years ago 3
Perfect analogy.
dayati 2 years ago
Nowhere in the US Constitution, either in the enurmerated powers, or elsewhere, is Congress given the authority to regulate medicine or to mandate that citizens buy medical coverage. Medical insurance, by Supreme court decision, is not interstate commerce, as is left to the states to regulate. Insurance uses risk profiles to determine which types of coverage it will sell to a person, and what catagory of premiums to charge the one. Mandating coverage for those with preexisting conditions issilly
franksnow79 2 years ago
Checkmate analogy.
SAR5 2 years ago
One compared the public option to education as an example of how the federal government screws up everything it touchs. One used the DC example because it is the one school system that falls completely under the authority of the Federal department of education. If they want the rest of us to take them seriously, that is where they must do it. Also, there are several private school in DC that throw all those typical teachers unions excuses out the window and actually teach kids something.
franksnow79 2 years ago
Not to fast for me, you are simply mistaken if you think that people who cannot currently buy medical coverage are suddenly going to be able to afford the magical public option without some sort of subsidy. Provided, of course, by a federal agency. Also, the medical insurance business is not as profitable as you appear to believe, and several operate as non-profits. Kaiser Permanente, for example.
franksnow79 2 years ago
Great analogy. Actually, the government can do a lot of things right if it weren't infiltrated by morons and constantly obstructed by the rich.
HostileNegotiator 2 years ago
favorited to use as evidence against right wing talking point...
midgetman433 2 years ago
They forgot to mention how much of our taxes go toward the USPS. I'm not complaining about the post office, they do a great job, but the price of postage is not the only thing we pay for the service, the difference is that even those that don't use USPS for anything are paying for postage too.
ijzerkoekie 2 years ago
No, our taxes do NOT go to the USPS, not that there would be anything wrong if they did
blingbling65943 2 years ago
SO who funds USPS? it sure isn't 40 cent postage stamps lol
blacklite911 2 years ago
I think that the Postal Service runs something like a $10B yearly deficit and has pretty much a monopoly.
Give FedEx or UPS an economy of scale and they'd drive the US Postal Service further into the ground.
Paetaor 2 years ago
I buy and sell a lot on Ebay and never have trouble with the USPS, but UPS is horrible. I won't buy anything anymore unless they offer to ship USPS.
klard 2 years ago 4
USPS failed only once or twice to deliver my stuff which im not particularly mad about cuz i knew i was gonna get my stuff sooner or later but the price and the service they give, i think its worth it.
n0s23 2 years ago 2
Checkmate.
banonKING 2 years ago 2
PERFECT COMPARISON!!!
not to mention the services talked about before like the police force and the military, and the fire department...hey wasn't there a huge fire once, back in the day when the fire department was privatized?
WARDOG1138 2 years ago 3
Yes but the postal service like many other government services actually pay out more money than it collects, which is not a sustainable business model.
Same as:
Social Security
Medicare
and others.
I'm not bashing government but, there is definitely room for reform, especially in the case of the US postal system.
moali68 2 years ago 2
that's just not true. social security and medicare have both run a surplus every year since their inception. the issue comes when politicians use that money to pay for projects so they can avoid raising taxes or spending less. And the post office does have issues, but it gets NO TAX DOLLARS. So any issues are isolated to the post office, and don't affect the budget.
TheKrds 2 years ago 9
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thats a pretty weak strawman argument because the difference between the post office and private companies is the government is incompetant and stuffed with waste and beuraucrats, while the private system is EFFICIENT and works hard for low prices, and fast service. and if your willing to compromise on poor, and scarce government coverage over coverage offered by concerned fellow citizens who want to help you, even if it costs them money, well remember the holocaust and hitlers "public option"
tehant1liberal 2 years ago
You act like the private sector is not also plagued with incompetence, waste and beuracrates, the insurance company's alone raise prices and lower care with the help of your hated "beuraucrates" help, look at wall street, if the private sector was so smart and "efficient" like you praised they wouldn't have needed the Gov't to bail them out of epic collaspe of the our economy.
TheDalinkwent 2 years ago
Look: you've been mislead, and you should find the courage to reconsider and investigate what you've been fed, information wise. Te private system is efficient and works hard for low prices? did you watch the whole video? have you heard of people being denied insurance because they had f*** PIMPLES as a pre existing condition?
darkzq 2 years ago
if the state's only purpose is to protect the law. you have a police state.
OgallalaKnowhow 2 years ago
I absolutely love the private sector competing with the public sector. However I should say that there are a lot of places where the post office will not deliver but fedex/ups will. People would have to drive to the post office far far away. I encountered that quite a bit in my old job.
jotunobsidianeyes 2 years ago
Unlike the postal service in many other countries, USPS is not funded by the federal government. They receive 0 of your tax dollars. Those are the facts bud.
kekemankek 2 years ago 3
That's a great point their, Cenk, I never even made that connection. Good analogy!
PhilWithCoffee 2 years ago
fedex worker right hurrr
rudyblackbird 2 years ago