Is this the same whore who is spewing shit about bieng rapped in cairo by the riot police?!!!! She seem to be quite hero for isreal and the jewish community funny she is the only woman to come out with such case and i wonder if she is already working for the Musad or getting her salary straight from israel >>She is a ***** traitor and should be stripped from her Egyptian identity!!!!
PRAYER FOR PALESTINE FROM A JEW:Let us help them to create something extraordinary,just as we have for ourselves-it is in our best interest to do so! Let us help them to build a home they will love with all their hearts, as we love Israel with all of ours.! Let's teach each other how to win non-zero sum games. We are both great nations-let us never forget this!Let us nurture peace with both our enemies and our friends, and recognize that they are a mirror...reflecting light unto the nations.
cont/d. But now it is about Israel and Palestine. The US/Israel hate mongering is pretty popular, and sometimes with reason - but a lot of times it is being used as a tool and it is easy to do. Now, there is talk that Syrian Regime does what Israel tells them to - not too long ago, it was about something/someone else. Propaganda takes all forms, and this is being used for more hurtful reasons. I am happy to see Egypt trying to do something for themselves. Democracy is not perfect - but a chance
It just isn't all about Israel, here - there is a time that Palestine has to define who they will be. Tons of inter fighting in Palestine. It has been going on for a long time. Everytime there was a peace process (and not just recent) there was someone else who wanted all or nothing (Israel gone) and while the youth see the Large influence of Israel and how they have become overbearing, there is a big history here that is not being acknowledge and should. Egypt's uprising was about Egypt. cont
She said that nobody wants to go to war in Egypt. That's not exactly true. Some Egyptians want to go to war because they are angry about the occupation. War is not a civilized behavior from Israel or Egypt or anyone and the settlements need to end.
Through all the layers upon layers of lies, demagoguery and deliberate forgetfulness, though all the deceits and obfuscations of that speech, there is one "smoking gun" or "Freudian slip" here.
At 11:26, she says "dictators," while her hands put that word in “air quotes."
She'd just spent about 10 minutes telling us what brutal dictators they were. Why does she put this word in quotes all of a sudden?
Perhaps it is because for years and years she had been telling everyone just the opposite, so much so that her hands got into the habit of air-quoting the word "dictators" whenever she talked about anyone other than the prime-minister of Israel. And now, her hands acted on the old habit and betrayed her.
Reminds me of the old fable about the turtle and the scorpion.
It doesn't take a genius to see that arab revolution is "extremely well plan". This revolt comes from Islamic society, much or less they try to hide this fact. The evidence for this can be seen from all places. After democracy or whatever they want comes, the next phase will definitely be to make an Islamic states in the whole of arab world. Oh how they try to cover this but their plans are too transparent. So, they indulge in this secular talks until the right time comes to reveal their plan
The day you muslims allow us to put a Church and synagogue in Mecca then we will respect you as long as you do not come to our country and force down our throats your way of life, we honor your way of life in YOUR COUNTRY, stay there if you want it do not come and disrupt our life with your terrorism - islam was built on terrorism and slaughter.
Have you made a request to build a church in Saudi Arabia and was rejected? In a 99.99% Muslim country, why would the Saudis even allow a church to be built?
Expand your horizons and go east/ west and north and you will find thousands of churches in Dubai, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine and Egypt. If anyone is forcing their way of life on Americans, it is the Jewish religion: you can't criticize or state your opinion about Israel without being called antisemitic! ;-)
@Batmann00, sure, we Jews demand all Americans to convert to our religion. And if they don't, we cut off their heads.
Idiot, you really think that? Maybe, if you think British people are cannibals who eat a Turk for Christmas and Danish people have sex with horses (things I heard form Arab Muslim preachers broadcasting to Middle Easter audiences.)
It never entered your mind that one can be both American and Jewish?
Not far from where I live, there is a Zoroastrian temple. More than 99.999% of Americans are not Zoroastrian. Why would Americans nevertheless allow Zoroastrians to have their temple?
Think about it. This question goes to the core of things.
@Batmann00 small remark if i may ,you are correct in saying there are churches in the Arab world but it practicly stops their...They are persecuted in Egypt (Check the Kupts status) ,Bet-Lehem used to be majority christians few decades ago..now quickly turning Muslim ,Lebanon Christians are being driven away...So Yes you are right they exist ,but they are barely tolerated and in many of the cases being persecuted. Not much Tolerance.
To bad this hore doesnt see shit... All these revolts are planned by zionists and many might think im wrong... And yes Israel have a might plan for all arabs soon..
The one without sins throw the first stone; i.e. God will love you more if you admit and correct your own mistakes instead of showing the mistakes of others, maybe that helps?
You should be worried for the day that all Palestinians have learned from Egypt and stop their intifada and violent protest and start massive peaceful protest. What would be your answer on that? Bullets?
@TheHugkk This has nothing to do with Protests it has everything to leaders making hard decisions. The Egypt example is just not the correct one. Protests won't change where the exact future border goes ,what security measures are taken ,refugees issue and many more. This has nothing to do with protests.
@MrEupheu I do not understand the point you make, can you explain? You mean that protests of Palestinians inside Israel or in the occupied area do not influence decisions of Israel government? It leaves them cold? Maybe that's the core of the problem. In a true democracy you might hope that leaders make decision based on the demands of the people. And there are a a lot of Palestinians in that area I think have equal right to have their demands reflected in a solution.
@TheHugkk Let me explain. Let's seperate between protests by the people towards their leaders (egypt for example) and protest/conflict between 2 seperate national entities (Palestinians and Israeli) ,the letter needs to resolved by leaders decision ,less by popular protests. Palestinian leaders need to stand up to the challange of deciding with Israel leaders on the conflict resolution that it is what's on the table. Having Palestinians protesting in Hebron won't detamin where the border is set.
This venomous snake should not have a voice amongst us Libyans regardless of what she has to say. She has always bashed the values and ideals that Libyans stand for and it is a disgrace to have her speaking on behalf of us.
Last point: Do you think it is in Israel accepted that an Israelian girl has a Palestinian boyfriend/husband? Many Israelians become pretty racial if they are confronted with such a situation... they are getting closer and closer to an apartheid system and way of thinking. So don't tell me Arabs are the intolerant bastards.
@721Loretta we are not in a competition to show who is more racist, your argumentation is wrong. You don't proof that Israelians are not racist by saying that Palestinians are (even more) racist. Maybe both are, and the problem is both continue to follow that line of thought in their political actions. Although a free, democratic and accountable Egypt or Palestine would be a brake away of this line, which should be encouraged. Pity many Israelians and hard line USA people don't see it.
@TheHugkk Well, actually, Israel has no laws of discrimination against Arabs and they even have Arabs serving in their government and legal system. This can't be said of the Palestinian Arabs, as they refuse to allow any (repeat any) Jews to live within their territories.
The real apartheid is the Palestinian Authorities death penalty against anyone selling land to Jews. The real genocide is their declaration to wipe Israel off the map. Pity many do not see that for what is is, racism.
@721Loretta That there are no laws or institutional arrangements that directly show racism motives doesn't mean it does not exist. If you would ask the Arab and Palestinian minority in the street in Israel you will hear many stories, that they are marginalised and often treated like second level humans in Israel.
Nobody here said Hamas or Palestinian Authority is free of racism. You sound like a child that is catched steeling candy, and says, but my neighbour boy stole more candies!
@721Loretta The point is, if you are interested in a solution, you should stop blaming Arabs and Palestinians about what all they do wrong (they do a lot wrong, no doubt about that), but should start looking to your own community and country, what they do wrong. You are taking a line of thought that only ends up as providing reasoning why we can marginalise and disallow Palestinians the same rights as we want and have for ourselves. This line is a deadend street, only leads to conflict, stop it!
@TheHugkk Actually you've completely misinterpreted what I was meaning. The Israeli system holds itself fully accountable for it's own behavior in many ways: the court system, their own people and their own government. Do I fully agree with everything they do? Of course not, that's absurd.
The problem is that the Palestinians do not seem to hold themselves accountable for their own behavior. When it's clear that they are choosing to do that, then criticism would not be needed.
Do you think a Gazian that has a good income, can express his religion like he wants, can freely say he hates Jews, is fully acknowledged as a Palestinian state by Israel and compensated for their suffering, still want to kill all Jews one by one or drive them into the sea? Because there is a chance that democracy can bring a Hitler that might want to kill all of us, we should deny them democracy?
Mona saying...Dictators supported by ISRAEL ,WTF? Israel supported Ghadafi? Maybe tolerated Mubarak but supported?? And people are appluding. And saying Egyptian hate ISrael because of Palestine is also a load of crap ,Why would the common farmer/student give a fuck over Palestine? it's a smoke screen a sham and a lie. I love this false sense of soledarity in the Arab world ,that is why more arabs are killed by there fellow "brothers" then by the west. Enough with the lies.
@MrEupheu You should ask the student or common farmer why he or she cares about the situation of Palestine, problem is you never did or maybe even thought about it. If a brute that hits his wife sees that you steal some money, you should not cry loud he is a thug but stop stealing money.
@TheHugkk Your example makes no sense. If you for one second think that hating/loving Israel is soley dependant on the Palestinian situation then you have no grasp of reality. Their is a deep division of social ,cultural ,economical and religious aspects which are much more contributing to the hatred of Israel by it's neighbours. Dont confuse this false sense of solidarity the Arab world share, as Mona and others try to convey to the rest of the world, with reality. There is none.
For all those people that want to proof that Egyptians and all Arabs hate Israel and Jews. Open up your eyes and ears. Hear what she is saying. She is not denying. Yes they do. But did it ever come into your mind to ask yourself WHY they hate Israel and Jews? ... Respect and Dignity! That is not something only the people of Mozes or 'the West' deserves... Only when Palestinians and all Arabs will be treated and regarded as equals this hate will go. Why is this message so difficult to catch?
@TheHugkk Respect and Dignity....What does it even mean? it's not a political idea it's a slogan. Can't someone articulate an idea and argument which isn't based on empty word. Do Arabs treat their women equaly? The Gays equaly? the christians equaly? Such a babble of words with no connection to reality. Do shiits respect Sonnis? or Kurds? Arab world is constructed of clans and tribes and sects and families ,they are all founded on inequality so what do you or Mona or anyone on J street wants???
@MrEupheu its at least clear that you are not capable of understanding what respect and dignity means, for you its an empty phrase. You can only lecture about the mistakes of others, not your own. So because there are stil a lot of social problems in arab society, none of them deserves any dignity or respect? Dignity and respects is like searching for the common ground you share with all human beings. You still have a long way to go...
@TheHugkk Don't kid yourself i perfectly know what Respect and Dignity is ,i was trying to challange you and the rest waiving this slogans to go beyond the word. This is like a a beuty queen contendant wishing for world peace . What do they mean by Respect and diginity? please elaborate. It is very easy to moblize behind word as Justice and Peace and Respect but the problems are political and social and economical - What do they want?
@MrEupheu Dignity and respect: Egyptians and Arabs have the same right for a democratic system, freedom of speech, to develop their opinions based on Muslim religion, as 'western countries and Israel' do based on their culture/religions. It means treating them equal as you treat yourself. If that means that they say they dont like the West, they have the right so. Problem is that many think they willl kill us all if you give them basic rights, which is the biggest lie there is.
@MrEupheu the biggest problem is that the West and Israel is blocking this 'evolution'. And I totally get fet up with this racial argumentation as if Arabs do not have the genes for democracy and are just corrupt hypocrites that will never change and want all Israelians and Westerners dead. That is the biggest lie.
@TheHugkk This is no racial argument this is a political science fact .Not one Islamic/Arab state has a functioning democracy. And it has nothing to do with Genes but all to do with social structure ,culture ,religion and politics. and if you feel the West has prevented/blocked this for all the 22 arab states and god knows how many moslem countries then you are the on deluded my friend. How doesIsrael/West block democracy in the Arab world?
@MrEupheu We blocked it by keeping guys like Mubarak in place. I am happy to hear that you don't follow the racial line, as so many do and indeed the moslim world and culture has still some major wars to win on social and religious tolerance, but let us at least support the process. But please I hope you can see that the policital line Israel is following at the moment, is getting very close as treating Palestinians as second class human beings, which is the core of the problem.
@TheHugkk I tend to agree that funding Dictatores is somewhat problematic but real politics isn't always nice nor clean..Supporting the corrupted Shah in Iran was wrong but look what his replacement brought...Sometime the devil you know is better then the one you don't. I'm not saying you don't have a point but the answer isn't clear cut simple. As to Israel treatment of Palestinians...well that's another story. Mostly can be attributed to a real complicated bloody conflict.
@MrEupheu that you ever gave it a thought that what came after the shah, could have happened BECAUSE the West supported the Shah before? The biggest lie that goes around in especially the USA and Israel is that moslim fundamentalism is inherent to Arab culture and moslim belief. Lack of democracy, freedom of religious views and missery creates fundamentalist. Just see from which countries most Al Qaida fighters are coming? All dictatorships or countries where 'tolerant views' were forced.
@MrEupheu The Western governments should do NOTHING, stay out for once! Just respect the Arab's in their quest for freedom, justice and dignity and their own way of democracy based on Islamic culture. Provide moral support and keep people accountable for their opinions and actions and boost trade with the Arab world.
They should however provide support to the brave people of Libya and any uprise against a dictatorship in the Arab world, but respect these nation, so no military on the ground.
@TheHugkk ahhh so here is the catch...If they offer support to any uprising it would automacticly be tagged as "Western Colonial" interference. You are damned in any situation.
@MrEupheu and if you have read careful i said corrupt Arabs! together with the West (mostly EU and USA) disalow Arabs to have democracy and develop themselves. Not Israel.
She says that there were no anti-israel sentiments in Egypt - she should check out the number of posters that had mubarak with a jewish star on his forehead.
@avgnyer68 Don't try to catch flies. Try to understand her message please. She tries to explain that this revolution is not about Israel. It was about Egyptians. Against a brutal dictator Mubarak. That was strongly supported by the West and Israel. Probably thats why you have seen quiet some Jewish stars. The best joke I have seen during the peaceful protest in Tahrir square was a board with the following text in Arabic: 'Mubarak, do we need to write it in Hebrew? OUT! I think explains it all.
@TheHugkk I'm intersted in this arguement you and Mona keep repeating of Israel supporting Mubarak. On what basis are you writing it? Mubarak at the most was a tolerable neighbour ,he wasn't an "asset" for Israel ,he maintained a cold hostile peace he was no welcomed figure in Israel. This is a Total lie and deception which is ,again, trying to place responsibilty on Israel for the suffering of the Arab population.
@MrEupheu you don't read carefull enough. 1. Israel and the West prefer to support/keep a dictator in place above providing Arab people the same rights as they enjoy themselves 2. The fact that you say Mubarak was 'tolerable' means you do not respect the rights of Egyptians as much as you respect your own rights. 3. Next to currupt Palestinians/Arabs it is Israel that is responsible for suffering of Palestinians and the West for suffering of Arab people.
@TheHugkk I read very carefully i just don't accept your description of things. 1. Israel isn't in the position neither to support nor to keep any Arab leader in place ,contrary to the West which is Funding them directly i agree. 2. As i have no power to grant them those rights as i have it doesn't really matter if i tolerate their leader or not it's a none issue. 3. Right and Wrong ,Israel is indeed causing suffering to the palestinians but usually conflict brings suffering.
@MrEupheu If I may put you in the Israel camp, you for sure block the rights of Palestinians and keep a corrupt Fatah party in place. You are turning things around. I do not accuse Israel for keeping in place Arab dictators or disallowing Arabs to developm themselves (for the Palestinians you do), its only a fact that many Arabs feel their own position best represented by the suffering of Palestinians. That's was exactly what Mona said, if you have watched the film.
@TheHugkk I'm not the Palestinian example is the best that you could have found....In Gaza a democratic vote brought Hamas which is in it's core a Tyranic theocracy as to the current Fatah leadership i hardly think they are considered as corrupt by the palestinian people. (which was the case with Arafat and his gang).
@MrEupheu You study your Palestine history and 'the palistine papers' better. Fatah is now even more corrupt then it has ever been, the funds they get from the West is way higher now then in Arafat time and what they establish for the people is nothing/less, EVERY PALESTINIAN knows that. Hamas exists because Fatah went totally corrupt, and Hamas was in essential a social service organisation for the poor. If Israel and USA took basic rights of Pale serious way back Hamas would not have existed.
@TheHugkk Interesting study. I thought Salam Fiad (The prime minister) was very much appriciated and trusted by the Palestinians but i might be wrong. As far as i know Cities As Ramalla and Nablus are gradualy and quickly expending and evoloving..but then again i might be wrong. I would attribute the Hamas popularity more to the corruption of Fatah then to Israel/US behaviour.
She at least admits to the hatred in her heart towards Israel. That hatred doesn't bode well for peace in the region because eventually that malice will show itself in actions.
@skydancerak The hatred is in her heart, as she herself admits repeatedly. You are correct, no one that is truly peaceful and loving will have this much hatred in his or her heart. Why doesn't she look at herself and correct this truly horrible situation that has flourished in her own heart and mind?
Once the people of the Middle East truly address their racist and murderous attitude toward Israel, then peace will be possible.
@721Loretta no dear, once ISRAELIS stop their CRIMES against everyone in this area of the world, then peace will be possible!
israelis are the ones who came to this land, STARTED KICKING AND KILLING the original ppl and the original owners of the lands, i don't know how the hell someone should be happy and peaceful to someone who came to KILL him? sure the hatred will still remain against the murderers and against the rapists
and thats the case of the zionist israelis they r the true murderers
@skydancerak Actually there has been a Jewish presence in the land of Israel for 3,500 years, since the time that Moses led the ancient Israelites to the land that God promised to them. Whether you believe in the Bible, or not, even non-religious history is filled with proof that the Jews have lived in Israel long, long before the Palestinian Arabs ever arrived there.
It is a real pity that the Arabs couldn't have welcomed their suffering brothers back home peacefully.
@721Loretta presence, isn't OWNING! second, whatever happens, arabs lived with jews and jews lived with arabs for long times, but when the jews came to KILL AND KICK THE PPL OUT.... EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE ME! HOW CAN SOMEONE NOT TO STAND HIS/HER GROUND AGAINST HIS/HER OWN LIFE?
no one ever said they can't live here, they could have bought and shared the lands and everything, but what the hell about the jews killing the ppl to kick them out ha? who's the murderer here?
@skydancerak In your above comment you called the Palestinian Arabs the "original owners" of the land which does imply that presence IS owning. I agree with that and the Israelis are the "original owners" of the land with deeds to it that were written, literally, thousands of years ago.
The Arabs have been violently trying to destroy the Jews out of the land of Israel for some time now, and declare publicly that they will wipe them off of the land of Israel. That is NOT allowing!
@721Loretta soooooooooooo what? original or owners for the time being, at least they didn't KILL ANYONE!
and if they r trying to destroy them for sometime now, its because israelis started that over 60 years ago! and yes, with their actions they deserve to be wiped!
if jews were the original as u said and in massive numbers and bla bla bla bla bla, how come they almost disappeared from there? and then all of a sudden they flooded there again KILLING AND KICKING PPL OUT since 1948!
@skydancerak Right, so now the truth comes out. You say, in your own words, that Israel "deserve to be wiped". That is genocide. It is murder. It is apartheid. It is racist. But it, at least, is the truth of where the problem really lies. With you.
If you will kindly check with history you will see that the Romans conquered Israel and expelled most of the population. They are returning. They are coming back home. They are there to stay.
@721Loretta first don't take HALF of my sentence, and modify the rest of it ur own way! i was CLEAR , i said:
with the ISRAELI'S CURRENT SITUATION AND ATTITUDE OF KILLING THE PALESTINIANS SAVAGELY, then yeah they DO deserve to be wiped! so don't cut the second half just to highlight it, say everything plz
second, so the jews r punishing palestinians for the crimes that the ROMANS AND THE GERMANS did to the jews? how sick!
@skydancerak 1) If only part of what you say is the truth, then only part of warrants being quoted and supported.
2) The Palestinians are the terrorists and have declared their desire to wipe Israel off the map. The Israelis have no choice but to defend themselves from that.
3) The Jews aren't punishing the Palestinians for anything. They are responding to Palestinian terror and murder.
@721Loretta yes they do deserve to be wiped and the palestinians wanted this after they've seen what the jews did since they arrived in the late 30's
regarding them going to stay... keep saying this till u feel better
but i so long to find u after they get wiped , cuz its coming soon, and sooner than u think
now that the dictatorships are being removed, the real will of the 400 millions nation will appear, which are to eliminate the murderers zionists of the jews, others are welcome
@721Loretta & it won't change, till things r back on the right track again, and nth will change till hypocrisy stops, palestinians aren't the ones who slaughtered jews in holocausts
i'm not gonna say more, justice will come sooner or later and they themselves know it, thats why they keep surrounding themselves with walls and barricades
when someone knows that he's righteous, he/she doesn't fear a thing, but when someone STEALS sth, he runs and seeks shelter and weapons
@skydancerak AbelRahman ,small advice from me ,you seem as an inteligent human being ,you have a high education ,good proffesion and interesting hobbies, I ask you not to get caught in the same language of the cave man ,nobody is going to wipe anybody ,we aren't leaving the prehistoric era ,stop using threats and curses because it wont work and it just displays you as a lunatic. You can argue you can try to convince you can protest ,but going back to slogans of Wiping and eliminating is no good.
@MrEupheu look, i'm gonna tell u one thing man, if u didn't live in the area here, close and saw what we see by ur eyes, u will never know how does it feel like, it makes ur blood boil, try to put urself in our shoes for a moment and tell me how much anger u get, but no one does, u never even try, i asked u so many things but u didn't even answer, where do u live now if i may say? go ahead tell me israel? where did u use to live before? or ur parents?
@skydancerak I live in the area ,i live in Israel and i see it much more clearly then a Syrian which is living under a dictatorship which learned in a state sponsored brainwashed schools ,that all his life was subjected to the state controled ,could ever dream to see. Can't you see how pathetic your views are? You lived under a butcher all your life ,your brothers/sisters still live under the allawite brutal regime and you have the nerve asking people to open their eyes? You have no credibility!
@MrEupheu right u live in the place where everything is shown from one side i suggest that u go and learn whats on the other side of ur GHETTO, which u removed from warsaw to palestine!
and btw, alawite might have done bad things in the past, but things never stay the same and we will remind each other about this, wanna talk about butchers? i suggest u talk about all jews generals
and when we see their crimes hitting civilians with white phosphorus we say God bless hitler and wish he did it all
@MrEupheu jews always used to live side by side in this whatever u wanna call it, palestine, israel or palesirael or israelestine anything... cuz it remains a land
christianity started shined from there as well, and many demographical changes happened but it wasn't palestinians or arabs or muslims who slaughtered them there, then why to kill them back? if u believe that they gave them a chance, sorry brother u r wrong, if i wanted to immigrate somewhere and live with manners, get a job and ....
@MrEupheu and buy a land, no one can stop me since i'm doing it the descent way, but to go and buy a gun, and then force the man in the country i'm leaving to , either to leave or to die, and then i call him terrorist for defending himself... ! can't u see that the man's blood will boil? like B.O.I.L. ? live it for a moment and tell me what u think! even when we talk about wiping israel, we r being specific, we can differentiate between zionists and jews don't worry about this, but plz, stop
@skydancerak Yes if i was an ignorant person which has no idea on real history ,who has no idea what really happaned ,which got all his data from state controled media or musques ,which believes the LIES you write of course my blood would boil. You can't invent a paralel universe with false facts and argue about it. That is why i told you time and again ,go learn the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from CREDIBLE resources. Not Israeli resources ,other Western schoolers.
@MrEupheu sorry dude but who the hell gives the CREDIBILITY to your resources while we SEE WITH OUR eyes here! wanna speak of credibility? don't talk about any media ur bringing ur data from!
we have seen and witnessed things by our fathers and our closest generation, we didn't CREATE a full false history and built a country on!
@skydancerak What are you SEEING with your own Eyes???? You don't live in ISrael ,you don't live in Palestine ,so what are you talking about???? Was there Al-Jazeera 20-30-60 years ago??? What did you father and elders till you please tell ,Did they tell you about the Hama Massacare? About Black Septemeber ? About the Hebron lynching? About the Grand Mufti working with the Nazis? What did they tell you?? That they failed to create ONE normal Arab state
@MrEupheu i've lived in jordan for 5 years, and saw many of the palestinians refugees and we have seen things they showed us which can make ur hair white! don't tell me a full nation would lie! oh sorry sorry! jews do!
they created a country out of lies!
and don't mix things with each other hama or whatever happened in syria is sth different and not even related, to what ur talking about, all i know is sth no nation came to kill and kick other nation to establish a country but the criminal jews
@skydancerak Actually if you know anything about World politics and History ,then you would have known the the USA was established over the Indians ,Austerllia/New-Zealand over the Aborigins and there are many more examples ,In Israel the Arabs were given an option in 48 not by the ISraelis by the UN and they REFUSED ,they LOST ,and that is why there are refugees in Jordan...You can't have it both ways ,you can't try and destory Israel and then Cry foul when you Lose.
@MrEupheu Yeah i do know, and u urself said things rn't the way they used to be anymore, there won't be another USA in middle east fear not, and if israel was established, its just a step toward the annihilation of the zionist criminals jews thats all, and no they did not refuse only, they refused to be killed and kicked out!
and thats what will be refused till the day u join the UN-DEAFEATABLE army which couldn't defeat a small party like hizbo-allah ! just to show u an example that when ...
@MrEupheu oh really? u load the gun, kill someone, kill his brother, THEN U WANT HIS OTHER BROTHER TO ACCEPT TO LEAVE OR DIE? what the fuck!
just answer this one damn fucking question, cuz ur running in circles and avoiding all my question simply cuz they strip u out to the naked truth:
if jews came peacefully to live with palestinians to live and build the land together and shits like that, WHY TO HOLD GUNS FROM THE START AND GET COVERED BY ARMIES HA?
@skydancerak We are getting to the point where you estabilshed yourself as another useless and ignorant arab poster. You try to spin and throw logic where History and facts are present and speak louder then any speculation. Jews came to Israel to establish the National Jewish State ,there was no such thing as Palestinians in the 19th century ,only native arabs with no national identity or inspiration. While Jews tried building their homeleand the Arabs just destroyed and killed.
@MrEupheu When the Local Arabs were offered a state by the United nations they refused and instead lunched a war on destruction against the Newly state of Israel with their fellow degenerate brothersas Syria ,Egypt ,Iraq and more. Israel didn't triger the War it just Won it. And now 60 years later your injured pride ,your miserable lives ,your poor wratched underdeveloped countries just cant stand that Israel still exists proud and more advanced then anyone of you can dream of. Simple Jelousy.
@MrEupheu oh really? history and facts ha? as if the jews FOR FACTS were the majority in the 18th of 17th or even 19th century! if so, then WHY THE HELL BRINGING ALL THOSE IMMIGRANTS? THOSE HOMELESS ones? dude u r pathetic u know why? cuz u don't read and wanna just write here claiming that u r the poor victims, yes indeed, u r pathetic victims and we consider israel nothing more than a cancerous tumor that will be removed sooner than u think, establish a land ha? over dead bodies indeed
@MrEupheu why to get damn armies with them unless they have INTENTIONS to start some evil wicked sick inhuman plan!
and the other part of the question is, if jews r the chosen ppl, and amazing nation bla bla bla bla, why is it hated everywhere and pushed just to stay where it got banished to after the WWII to be specific!
go check the history of ur grandfathers and ur ancestors and u'll know why!
the arabs ur talking about were known for centuries for their good hospitality...
@MrEupheu and now a homeless nation wanna tell me that arabs started the war? get some logic while ur talking and most important, know whom ur talking about pal, there's a say in arabic says:
la dokhana bela nar! ....which means: there is no smoke without fire
review the dirty things ur leaders and even ur citizens do then talk about arabs, poor victims, poor jews
now we understand why hitler said: i could kill all the jews, but i left u some so that u know why i was killing them
@MrEupheu dude u r the helpless hopeless and useless as well, cuz yes what we say is true, and this is whats making u shut up! u think it was, is or will be only hitler? naaaaaaaaaaaaa, loads of nations hate the jews for their known dirty scum bags actions, and now ur proving that ur one of them by defending starting of the killing in palestine! knock it off pathetic, what do say about der yaseen ya? 110 workers and farmers were on their way home! WHY THE FUCK DID THEY KILL THEM?
@MrEupheu that when ur cartoon army, takes the chances it deserves, it will do nth! israel couldn't even defeat hizboallah cuz it was a fair battle between a small party.. and an .. excuse me? what do u call it? the army of israel? so we will see what will happen in a fair battle between armies in the middle east, and its not so far from now
@skydancerak I think you also have no grasp what is a War...My little delusional friend. Hizbolla isn't an Army it's a well orgenized guarilla terrorist group ,fighting such a group is completly different then fighting an army..Destroying a terrorist group hiding behind schools and musques is very hard..Ask the Americans and the Russians...Fighting an army is a total different thing...Don't get confused...
@MrEupheu nice u said it urself! right? a small group not army but had a fair fight with what u call the best army in the middle east my ass? and yet , israel couldn't destroy this GUARILLA TERRORIST GROUP? great army indeed ! INDEED!
and im wondering :O where were the mosques and the schools in the FORESTS? :O i've never seen a mosque in the middle of the lebanese forests :O am i missing sth my geological educated friend?
oh i forgot, israel teaches u so to give excuses to hit mosques! SICK!
@MrEupheu and if ur gonna compare hama to other things, i think that u know that everywhere in the whole world, the ones who oppose the real policy of some country r being eleminated either secretly or in public, and NO ONE SINGLE DAMN country doesn't do this, starting from ur own fake country itself!
anyone stands in the way of something is eliminated, so cut the useless crap plz cuz its irrelative
@skydancerak No actually i don't know that and you know why? Because in Democracy the leader can't act as barbarians and walk free ,in Democracy you can't kills thousends and Burry them under Cement (Hama) ,keep telling lies to yourself. If you were brave enough you would fight Basher El-Assad ,But you are a Coward hiding behind a Keyboard thinking Israel is the reason for all your troubles. At least the Egyptian had guts and balls to fight for there freedom ,shame the rest of you are COWARDS.
@MrEupheu no dude, cuz bashar at least tried and is still trying to correct what his father did, besides, as we said, they r things that can't be compared to each other, so cut the crap
speaking of cowardS? i don't know who LIVES BEHIND A CONCRETE WALL? ME OR U?
@skydancerak So you support Bashar? Rule of minority over majority ,are you part of Assad family? I admire your care for the Palestinians yet you have no compassion for your fellow syrians - Why don't you go out and demonstrate in Damescus? Don't you want to be free? Join the Egyptian revolution ,The Lybian revolution - stop directing all you energy at Israel.
@MrEupheu yes we do support him, not only me, many of us, cuz he was aware of the past and knew how to correct things even on a slow level we don't care, but yeah we do care for the palestinians and the muslims and everyone died on the hands of ur criminal leaders, and yeah israel is the essence of all the DIRT in this area, and is the reason of all the shits going around as well, cuz simply its a CANCER, that was planted in the body of this area of the world and it will be erased soon fear not
@skydancerak And now that you have esablished yourself as a Nazi sympetizer ,as a dictator supporter (Bashar and his terror regim),as supporting occupation (of Lebanon by Syria) What else is left of you?? Go back to your Guitar to and fantasize that your live in a world where you are Free. Because you aren't ,you are a slave,a poor brainwashed Slave,with no freedom ,no civil rights ,no equality ,Nothing! I just returned from a day Skiiing in the Golan - constant memory of your defeat. Bye Loser.
@MrEupheu i suggest u go back to your GHETTO and remember that we r coming for u sooner or later, as we said before, cuz if u were righteous, u wouldn't be living in all this fear! poor nation, a group of ppl made u piss in ur pants, so imagine what will happen when armies like hizboallah will jump and kick u back to the trash cans where u used to live! can't wait enough for the day!
@skydancerak Still support Bashar ? :) how many more of your brothers should be murdered till you change your mind...Forgive me for popping by but i couldn't help myslef...Still think he knows how to correct things? You can go back to your delusional life my friend...Body count is growing in Dar'aa while you play your guitar. Farewell.
@MrEupheu Personally, I do not like Qaddafi, Assad, Netanyahu, and Lieberman. I don't like undemocratic people full stop. We are all human beings and need normal relations and actions between the people down there not war all the time.
@skydancerak How many more need to be butchered in Dara'a ,Latakia ,Damesqus? More Arabs massacred by Arabs in one month then ISrael Killed for the last 5 years.....Wake Up dude.
@MrEupheu So are you saying whatever Syria's dictator does makes everything Israel's prime minister do okay? It would be like saying America should feel free to do what it wants in Afghanistan, after all Germany did the holocaust and the Russians killed millions of their own people. That's not a moral yard stick.
@MrEupheu You were talking about the crimes of Hafez Al Assad. We know Assad's crimes, he is a dictator. So do you want to hold Israel to the same standard as a minority dictatorship? Does it mean Israel should not care about the human rights of Arabs because of Hafez Al Assad? The point is all human beings should live together and not abusing human rights.
@MrEupheu syrians killing syrians for politic shits is sth, and (for example) syrians killing and occupying jordan and killing its own ppl is sth different! how do u resemble the crimes of the jews in palestine to the crimes of a single individual person who happened to be a president of a country for some era of time ha?
@MrEupheu please stop denying israel striked palestinians with weapons that r forbidden even in biggest scales wars com'n!!!!!!!!!! now u'll tell me who started i'll tell u again go back talk to ppl who r still alive, over 60s and tell me what u think, everyone knows what happened, but if ur gonna go back to the media and specially ur media and the western one, u'll never put ur eyes on what happened, still happening, and will always happen till the war comes and things r back on the right track
@skydancerak So you would believe the Arab Media over the Western media i understand?? You just admited it. You live in the Area you KNOW all Arab media are state controled you KNOW that all Arab countires are Dictatorship ,you KNOW that the political system in the Arab world is not based on freedom of speech ,freedom of thought ,freedom for Truth. but you still believe the ARAB BRAINWASH PROPOGANDA machine over democratic systems???? And you still think War will fix anything? Pathetic.
@MrEupheu yes of course we do, and we do know how to differentiate between controlled ones and independent ones don't worry, at least al jazeera is still there, and we've seen things on it and in reality as well, and i've lived in jordan close enough while all ur western media is surely financed and supported by zionists and we can see this dont' worry! and yeah war will fix lots of things, it will send the killers back to hell or to their homes, and let those who wanna live in real peace stay!
@skydancerak Who is going to fight this War AbdelRahman? Same Ignorant poor Arab people which fought all the previous wars and LOST ,you know what differs us from cave man? That we are able to learn from our mistakes and change our ways ,if you suggest on another War then you are no different from Your fathers and forefathers which fought and LOST. Think again ,you have the chance to do things differently.
@MrEupheu i don't know, u tell me, 400 millions against a couple of butchers who are afraid enough to bury themselves in GHETTOS and hide behind walls cuz they do know that they unrighteous who do u think will win? and yes we r no different, but the thing that will differ, is that we r gonna eliminate the traitors who sold ur ancestors the whole case, and things will be put back the way it should be!
@skydancerak You talk like a child AbdelRahman....It was never a metter of numbers ,The Arab world was always hundred times bigger then Israel ,that was the case in 48 in 67 in 73 and also Today..Do you think making threats or promises over the Internet impresses anyone? You are a fcking university graduate (so you claim) ,you are 31 years old (so you claim) ,isn't it time you grow up? If the mentalitiy of the Arab world remains as hostile as yours you will always remain backward and retarded.
@MrEupheu when the numbers take the full actions without the dirty works of ur nation and without the MALFUNCTIONED weapons which without, jews would have been annihilated again on 48, and we know this, don't tell me its a lie as well ok? when someone shoots from a gun that explodes in his/her face its different than when he/she shoots and kills someone
so yeah, we will remain hostile to u, cuz u wanna steal sth and be welcomed! which will not happen
@skydancerak You crack me up...First time i hear of the MALFUNCTION conspiracy,,,So they Weapons were faulty on ALL wars? Don't you you check your Gun before shooting it? You understand how ridicules your LIES are? and if it's true then the Arab soldier is a complete Idiot and that is why he would never have a chance if beating any western army in a thousend years....BTW as to stealing land isn't Syria tried trying to take over Lebanon?I'm looking for a peacefull solution you are acting childish
@MrEupheu of course first time! cuz ur blind on the shits ur nation does!
the list doesn't get done, and everyone from the west participated in the conspiracy! to GET RID FROM THE JEWS FROM THEIR COUNTRIES AND SEND THEM SOMEWHERE TO GET PEACE OF MINE FROM THEM, can't u see it? u still can't see how hated u r ? till now u didn't comment about germany's thing? and everyday's actions in france ? and and and and? why not? of course u don't know, israel is the angel? sabra? shateela? jeneen?
@skydancerak What about Sabra and Shateela...You are aware the This massacre was done by your Arab borthers right from the Christian Phalangs ,Yes Israel could have stoped it but let's not forget it was your Arab brothers butchering the Palesinians in the Camp...And What about Jenin ,another huge lie coming from your Propoganda machine ,how many died in Jenin do you even know?? I rememeber the screams and yelling talking of hundreds and thousends - you know the real number? 55! mostly armed.
@MrEupheu were they armed villages? the son of the bitch sharon, and others annihilated them killing kids and newborns! knock it off, if u don't know a thing from the crimes jews started since 48 and till now, then don't even comment back! and u want ppl not to boil ha? and yes lebanon was ALWAYS a part of the natural syria, and its their choice to get back to it or not, and is syria not trying to do so? yes it is! and it has allies there for that, but at least, it doesn't SEND SYRIANS there..
@MrEupheu with massive amounts and numbers to KICK AND KILL the lebanese! don't u see the difference between the dirty way of the jews and other things now?
yes the syrian army went there on THEIR DAMN REQUEST (lebanese) and when the french conspiracy found its way, along with the israeli and american, it went out again, and now they r almost begging for it to come back again, i
@MrEupheu t remains almost an internal issue, if not between syrians and lebanese, then between arabs themselves, and still IRRELATIVE to ur crime jews
@skydancerak Yes i's irrlevent to the Israeli issue but is has everything to do with you - YOU are a Hypocrite and a Liar ,you would accept Syria Occupation of Lebanon ,you accept A dictator rule (Bashar) over your people yet you talk of "crimes" of Jews - i feel sorry and pitty for. I thought you were more opened minded and willing to listen but you aren't. You live in fear ,you can't vote ,you can't demonstrate ,you can't view your opinion freely. You are a slave of ignorance.
@MrEupheu first of all, its so different again, and lebanon was always and will always remain a region of syria, and now since u keep blabbermouthing about the history, i suggest u go back to it and read a bit about it, and ask a bit about it too and know when lebanon was separated from syria and BY THE FRENCH FORCE, and hypocrisy? u jews r talking about it? how funny! u cry and mourn all the times if someone SPOKE of the holocaust, but when someone attacks the feelings of 1 billion persons
@skydancerak Really? Lebanon will always remain a region of Syria ,Did you bother asking the Lebaneese? Lebanon is a soverign country last time i checked but appearntly you have other plans. You have some nerve opening your mouth on occupation and crimes and at the same time supporting Syrian occupation of Lebanon ,that must be some world record you are breaking here!!
@MrEupheu yes it will remain so, and if there were some PUPPETS of france and other countries there in lebanon, then the majority allies with syria btw, so don't get too carried away with it, and look at whats going on before u speak, al hariri and his gang r mourning while u r wondering whats going on, and the alliance will be translated again i suggest that u really should think why europe is supporting the jews so much to stay in what so called israel and not to come back to where they lived
@MrEupheu and why european countries were so happy to cleanse their countries out of jews and got relieved of having other nationality finally, yet u say we just hate the zionists, sorry pal, the only ones truly hated around r the jews and for their DIRTY SCUM BAG ACTIONS, all over
@MrEupheu of 1 billion persons by making fun of their prophet, then its freedom of expression! u r the real hypocrites! when a jewish person does sth even u admit to be wrong, u blame the name, but when a muslim person does sth wrong, u blame the nation, hypocrites, and u speak of hypocrisy? hamas striked missles on u? home made missles? u striked with white phosphorus for God's sake! hypocrites! self defense? against children ha? against infants and new born? what a sick nation u r jews
@skydancerak Did i for one second made Fun of your prophet? Why do you keep lying? Find me one post i even mentioned Mohamed and i'll appoligize and post no more ok? As to Gaza it won't help you. As long as Hammas fires rockets at Israel ,After ISrael returned the WHOLE Gaza strip to the Palestinians ,it would be hit back ,As long as Hammas fire rockets from withing schools and Musques then yes it is putting it's civilians in harm way. White Phosphotus - do you even know what it is used for??
@MrEupheu if u were reading what i wrote more carefully u wouldn't even said a thing about that, i'm not lying and i'm not accusing u personally of that! i was stating how the hypocrite media do things around, but now i see where ur replies come from, u don't even read carefully and u just start writing right away!
i was giving an example of the hypocrite media ur counting on, which when our prophet was insulted, it considered it a freedom of speech, but else than that, its racism!
@MrEupheu and thats the MEDIA U CALL THAT IT HAS HIGH CREDIBILITY! WHICH U ASK ME TO LISTEN TO!
second, yes im a pharmacist, which means a chemist and i do know what is white phosphorus! ( i hope u learn how to spell it right first
and ur proud criminal leaders threw it on schools on ppl & burned them alive! yet wen a small HOME MADE missile was fired in response, jews went crying, ooooooooooh dear lord we r being killed savagely
knock it off, & learn what ur STRONG army uses against civilians
@721Loretta LOL - are you for real? or are you one of those Zionist shills that roam Youtube and other site to spread Israel's lies?? What world do you live in? So, anything Israel does is ok because they are the chosen people ha? Well, let me tell you how I feel - Fuck Israel and Fuck everyone who supports that Zionist Nazi cancer. People are not buying Israel lies anymore. Go back a little in history and see who is the terrorist here, actually Israel the the epidemy of terror!
@llg4ever Not everything Israel does is ok and of course they aren't the chosen people...But as Israel isn't going to Fuck itself and the Zionist aren't going anywhere try being more constructive then just behaving like a drooling lunatic.
@llg4ever I am for real, thanks for asking. And thanks so much for sharing your point of view. Unfortunately it's so full of hate that I see now point in addressing any of your issues.
Your attitude makes it clear why Israel is so in danger.
@skydancerak if the romans kicked the jews outta palestine's land, then palestinians came and lived there and structured the whole country all over again, then the germans burned and killed jews by dozens, so jews have the right to come back to KICK AND KILL PALESTINIANS? what a really sick logic!
palestinians have been defending themselves since the jews came and raped the land NOT PEACEFULLY AT ALL! and kicked and killed hundreds of thousands of palestinians! thats the real crime!
tunisia, egypt, oman etc. blah blah blah and women are still treated as second class citizens by their misogynist, backward women hater culture.
serappia 1 month ago in playlist Feminist
surely everyone knows that the problems in the Middle East and elswhere, start with Islam and end with Islam.
Nice to see J street is being exposed for the frauds that they are
go Israel !
alskyification 3 months ago
fucking bitch to even acknowledge these zionists exist!
insomnia759 3 months ago
what a dumb rant
MrRo4b 3 months ago
Is this the same whore who is spewing shit about bieng rapped in cairo by the riot police?!!!! She seem to be quite hero for isreal and the jewish community funny she is the only woman to come out with such case and i wonder if she is already working for the Musad or getting her salary straight from israel >>She is a ***** traitor and should be stripped from her Egyptian identity!!!!
mmjnr10 3 months ago
I AM NOW HER GROOPIE
shurednichso 4 months ago
PRAYER FOR PALESTINE FROM A JEW:Let us help them to create something extraordinary,just as we have for ourselves-it is in our best interest to do so! Let us help them to build a home they will love with all their hearts, as we love Israel with all of ours.! Let's teach each other how to win non-zero sum games. We are both great nations-let us never forget this!Let us nurture peace with both our enemies and our friends, and recognize that they are a mirror...reflecting light unto the nations.
tikkunolam613 7 months ago 5
The continuous applause and pandering to the crowd is embarrassing.
ChocIced 9 months ago
cont/d. But now it is about Israel and Palestine. The US/Israel hate mongering is pretty popular, and sometimes with reason - but a lot of times it is being used as a tool and it is easy to do. Now, there is talk that Syrian Regime does what Israel tells them to - not too long ago, it was about something/someone else. Propaganda takes all forms, and this is being used for more hurtful reasons. I am happy to see Egypt trying to do something for themselves. Democracy is not perfect - but a chance
TheCyberE 9 months ago
It just isn't all about Israel, here - there is a time that Palestine has to define who they will be. Tons of inter fighting in Palestine. It has been going on for a long time. Everytime there was a peace process (and not just recent) there was someone else who wanted all or nothing (Israel gone) and while the youth see the Large influence of Israel and how they have become overbearing, there is a big history here that is not being acknowledge and should. Egypt's uprising was about Egypt. cont
TheCyberE 9 months ago
Juste pour te dire NIK OMMOK ya IRHABI TA3 ZEB
ANSAR59REVIENS 10 months ago
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trappedinamadworld 10 months ago
She said that nobody wants to go to war in Egypt. That's not exactly true. Some Egyptians want to go to war because they are angry about the occupation. War is not a civilized behavior from Israel or Egypt or anyone and the settlements need to end.
QUINTUSMAXIMUS 10 months ago
i love you Mona!
edilbim 11 months ago
Through all the layers upon layers of lies, demagoguery and deliberate forgetfulness, though all the deceits and obfuscations of that speech, there is one "smoking gun" or "Freudian slip" here.
At 11:26, she says "dictators," while her hands put that word in “air quotes."
She'd just spent about 10 minutes telling us what brutal dictators they were. Why does she put this word in quotes all of a sudden?
(cont.)
Kurtlane 11 months ago
Perhaps it is because for years and years she had been telling everyone just the opposite, so much so that her hands got into the habit of air-quoting the word "dictators" whenever she talked about anyone other than the prime-minister of Israel. And now, her hands acted on the old habit and betrayed her.
Reminds me of the old fable about the turtle and the scorpion.
Kurtlane 11 months ago
It doesn't take a genius to see that arab revolution is "extremely well plan". This revolt comes from Islamic society, much or less they try to hide this fact. The evidence for this can be seen from all places. After democracy or whatever they want comes, the next phase will definitely be to make an Islamic states in the whole of arab world. Oh how they try to cover this but their plans are too transparent. So, they indulge in this secular talks until the right time comes to reveal their plan
revolutionaryjake 11 months ago
The day you muslims allow us to put a Church and synagogue in Mecca then we will respect you as long as you do not come to our country and force down our throats your way of life, we honor your way of life in YOUR COUNTRY, stay there if you want it do not come and disrupt our life with your terrorism - islam was built on terrorism and slaughter.
1820sept 11 months ago
@1820sept
Have you made a request to build a church in Saudi Arabia and was rejected? In a 99.99% Muslim country, why would the Saudis even allow a church to be built?
Expand your horizons and go east/ west and north and you will find thousands of churches in Dubai, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine and Egypt. If anyone is forcing their way of life on Americans, it is the Jewish religion: you can't criticize or state your opinion about Israel without being called antisemitic! ;-)
Batmann00 11 months ago
@Batmann00, sure, we Jews demand all Americans to convert to our religion. And if they don't, we cut off their heads.
Idiot, you really think that? Maybe, if you think British people are cannibals who eat a Turk for Christmas and Danish people have sex with horses (things I heard form Arab Muslim preachers broadcasting to Middle Easter audiences.)
It never entered your mind that one can be both American and Jewish?
(cont.)
Kurtlane 11 months ago
Not far from where I live, there is a Zoroastrian temple. More than 99.999% of Americans are not Zoroastrian. Why would Americans nevertheless allow Zoroastrians to have their temple?
Think about it. This question goes to the core of things.
Kurtlane 11 months ago
@Batmann00 small remark if i may ,you are correct in saying there are churches in the Arab world but it practicly stops their...They are persecuted in Egypt (Check the Kupts status) ,Bet-Lehem used to be majority christians few decades ago..now quickly turning Muslim ,Lebanon Christians are being driven away...So Yes you are right they exist ,but they are barely tolerated and in many of the cases being persecuted. Not much Tolerance.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
To bad this hore doesnt see shit... All these revolts are planned by zionists and many might think im wrong... And yes Israel have a might plan for all arabs soon..
t10parwani 11 months ago
@t10parwani you're a paranoid idiot.
lizrael 11 months ago
@t10parwani
Too bad you're ignorant, uneducated and can't speak, let alone write, English!
Batmann00 11 months ago
@Batmann00 Batman keep ur hollywood opinion for urself and shove it up in your shylog cunt asss
t10parwani 11 months ago
@t10parwani Yep you are an uneducated idiot. Truth must be told.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu Truth will prevail.. Wait and see... im not saying that it was the peoples revolt but what the future wil unfold...
t10parwani 11 months ago
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TheHugkk 11 months ago
The one without sins throw the first stone; i.e. God will love you more if you admit and correct your own mistakes instead of showing the mistakes of others, maybe that helps?
You should be worried for the day that all Palestinians have learned from Egypt and stop their intifada and violent protest and start massive peaceful protest. What would be your answer on that? Bullets?
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk This has nothing to do with Protests it has everything to leaders making hard decisions. The Egypt example is just not the correct one. Protests won't change where the exact future border goes ,what security measures are taken ,refugees issue and many more. This has nothing to do with protests.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu I do not understand the point you make, can you explain? You mean that protests of Palestinians inside Israel or in the occupied area do not influence decisions of Israel government? It leaves them cold? Maybe that's the core of the problem. In a true democracy you might hope that leaders make decision based on the demands of the people. And there are a a lot of Palestinians in that area I think have equal right to have their demands reflected in a solution.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk Let me explain. Let's seperate between protests by the people towards their leaders (egypt for example) and protest/conflict between 2 seperate national entities (Palestinians and Israeli) ,the letter needs to resolved by leaders decision ,less by popular protests. Palestinian leaders need to stand up to the challange of deciding with Israel leaders on the conflict resolution that it is what's on the table. Having Palestinians protesting in Hebron won't detamin where the border is set.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
This evil women is soooo popular in western countries, and sooooooooo UNpopular in Arab countries!!!
That's what happen when you're egyptian and live in israel...
marwouan 11 months ago
Go Mona!! Holland salutes you!!
biskwietje 11 months ago
This venomous snake should not have a voice amongst us Libyans regardless of what she has to say. She has always bashed the values and ideals that Libyans stand for and it is a disgrace to have her speaking on behalf of us.
LibyanRebel 11 months ago
I agree with most of what she say but still she's a zionist:
Only two Egyptian visited Israel last year: Omar suleiman and Mona Eltahawy...
Both of them are now part of history...
marwouan 11 months ago
@marwouan So if Omar and Mona are history, share with us what the future should be accroding you? Enlighten us...
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk I think he answered...Hijab ,Shariia law ,Kafir and infidels...Yada Yada Yada
MrEupheu 11 months ago
U listen to people like this and you will be stupid like her! Arabrevolt 2011
SSWOLFENSTEINSS 11 months ago
For all Arabs who think one second she represent you;
She lived in israel
She married an American kaffir
She removed her hijab
She 's fighting to change the coran and the sunna
marwouan 11 months ago
This "women" have more supporter in Lituania than in Egypt or in the Arab world.
marwouan 11 months ago
Last point: Do you think it is in Israel accepted that an Israelian girl has a Palestinian boyfriend/husband? Many Israelians become pretty racial if they are confronted with such a situation... they are getting closer and closer to an apartheid system and way of thinking. So don't tell me Arabs are the intolerant bastards.
TheHugkk 11 months ago 2
@TheHugkk The Palestinian Authority has ruled that the penalty for any Palestinian Arab selling land to Jews is death.
You can't get any more racist than that.
721Loretta 11 months ago
@721Loretta we are not in a competition to show who is more racist, your argumentation is wrong. You don't proof that Israelians are not racist by saying that Palestinians are (even more) racist. Maybe both are, and the problem is both continue to follow that line of thought in their political actions. Although a free, democratic and accountable Egypt or Palestine would be a brake away of this line, which should be encouraged. Pity many Israelians and hard line USA people don't see it.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk Well, actually, Israel has no laws of discrimination against Arabs and they even have Arabs serving in their government and legal system. This can't be said of the Palestinian Arabs, as they refuse to allow any (repeat any) Jews to live within their territories.
The real apartheid is the Palestinian Authorities death penalty against anyone selling land to Jews. The real genocide is their declaration to wipe Israel off the map. Pity many do not see that for what is is, racism.
721Loretta 11 months ago
@721Loretta That there are no laws or institutional arrangements that directly show racism motives doesn't mean it does not exist. If you would ask the Arab and Palestinian minority in the street in Israel you will hear many stories, that they are marginalised and often treated like second level humans in Israel.
Nobody here said Hamas or Palestinian Authority is free of racism. You sound like a child that is catched steeling candy, and says, but my neighbour boy stole more candies!
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@721Loretta The point is, if you are interested in a solution, you should stop blaming Arabs and Palestinians about what all they do wrong (they do a lot wrong, no doubt about that), but should start looking to your own community and country, what they do wrong. You are taking a line of thought that only ends up as providing reasoning why we can marginalise and disallow Palestinians the same rights as we want and have for ourselves. This line is a deadend street, only leads to conflict, stop it!
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk Actually you've completely misinterpreted what I was meaning. The Israeli system holds itself fully accountable for it's own behavior in many ways: the court system, their own people and their own government. Do I fully agree with everything they do? Of course not, that's absurd.
The problem is that the Palestinians do not seem to hold themselves accountable for their own behavior. When it's clear that they are choosing to do that, then criticism would not be needed.
721Loretta 11 months ago
Do you think a Gazian that has a good income, can express his religion like he wants, can freely say he hates Jews, is fully acknowledged as a Palestinian state by Israel and compensated for their suffering, still want to kill all Jews one by one or drive them into the sea? Because there is a chance that democracy can bring a Hitler that might want to kill all of us, we should deny them democracy?
TheHugkk 11 months ago
Mona saying...Dictators supported by ISRAEL ,WTF? Israel supported Ghadafi? Maybe tolerated Mubarak but supported?? And people are appluding. And saying Egyptian hate ISrael because of Palestine is also a load of crap ,Why would the common farmer/student give a fuck over Palestine? it's a smoke screen a sham and a lie. I love this false sense of soledarity in the Arab world ,that is why more arabs are killed by there fellow "brothers" then by the west. Enough with the lies.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
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TheHugkk 11 months ago
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@MrEupheu You should ask the student or common farmer why he or she cares about the situation of Palestine, problem is you never did or maybe even thought about it. If a brute that hits his wife sees that you steal some money, you should not cry loud he is a thug but stop stealing money.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk Your example makes no sense. If you for one second think that hating/loving Israel is soley dependant on the Palestinian situation then you have no grasp of reality. Their is a deep division of social ,cultural ,economical and religious aspects which are much more contributing to the hatred of Israel by it's neighbours. Dont confuse this false sense of solidarity the Arab world share, as Mona and others try to convey to the rest of the world, with reality. There is none.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
For all those people that want to proof that Egyptians and all Arabs hate Israel and Jews. Open up your eyes and ears. Hear what she is saying. She is not denying. Yes they do. But did it ever come into your mind to ask yourself WHY they hate Israel and Jews? ... Respect and Dignity! That is not something only the people of Mozes or 'the West' deserves... Only when Palestinians and all Arabs will be treated and regarded as equals this hate will go. Why is this message so difficult to catch?
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk Respect and Dignity....What does it even mean? it's not a political idea it's a slogan. Can't someone articulate an idea and argument which isn't based on empty word. Do Arabs treat their women equaly? The Gays equaly? the christians equaly? Such a babble of words with no connection to reality. Do shiits respect Sonnis? or Kurds? Arab world is constructed of clans and tribes and sects and families ,they are all founded on inequality so what do you or Mona or anyone on J street wants???
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu its at least clear that you are not capable of understanding what respect and dignity means, for you its an empty phrase. You can only lecture about the mistakes of others, not your own. So because there are stil a lot of social problems in arab society, none of them deserves any dignity or respect? Dignity and respects is like searching for the common ground you share with all human beings. You still have a long way to go...
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk Don't kid yourself i perfectly know what Respect and Dignity is ,i was trying to challange you and the rest waiving this slogans to go beyond the word. This is like a a beuty queen contendant wishing for world peace . What do they mean by Respect and diginity? please elaborate. It is very easy to moblize behind word as Justice and Peace and Respect but the problems are political and social and economical - What do they want?
MrEupheu 11 months ago
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TheHugkk 11 months ago
@MrEupheu Dignity and respect: Egyptians and Arabs have the same right for a democratic system, freedom of speech, to develop their opinions based on Muslim religion, as 'western countries and Israel' do based on their culture/religions. It means treating them equal as you treat yourself. If that means that they say they dont like the West, they have the right so. Problem is that many think they willl kill us all if you give them basic rights, which is the biggest lie there is.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk Ok then we agree. Good Luck to them. We are all eagerlly waiting for this welcomed evolution in the Arab/Moslem world.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu the biggest problem is that the West and Israel is blocking this 'evolution'. And I totally get fet up with this racial argumentation as if Arabs do not have the genes for democracy and are just corrupt hypocrites that will never change and want all Israelians and Westerners dead. That is the biggest lie.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk This is no racial argument this is a political science fact .Not one Islamic/Arab state has a functioning democracy. And it has nothing to do with Genes but all to do with social structure ,culture ,religion and politics. and if you feel the West has prevented/blocked this for all the 22 arab states and god knows how many moslem countries then you are the on deluded my friend. How doesIsrael/West block democracy in the Arab world?
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu We blocked it by keeping guys like Mubarak in place. I am happy to hear that you don't follow the racial line, as so many do and indeed the moslim world and culture has still some major wars to win on social and religious tolerance, but let us at least support the process. But please I hope you can see that the policital line Israel is following at the moment, is getting very close as treating Palestinians as second class human beings, which is the core of the problem.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk I tend to agree that funding Dictatores is somewhat problematic but real politics isn't always nice nor clean..Supporting the corrupted Shah in Iran was wrong but look what his replacement brought...Sometime the devil you know is better then the one you don't. I'm not saying you don't have a point but the answer isn't clear cut simple. As to Israel treatment of Palestinians...well that's another story. Mostly can be attributed to a real complicated bloody conflict.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu that you ever gave it a thought that what came after the shah, could have happened BECAUSE the West supported the Shah before? The biggest lie that goes around in especially the USA and Israel is that moslim fundamentalism is inherent to Arab culture and moslim belief. Lack of democracy, freedom of religious views and missery creates fundamentalist. Just see from which countries most Al Qaida fighters are coming? All dictatorships or countries where 'tolerant views' were forced.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk Ok ,what do you want the West to do in order to allow democracy ,freedom of religious views to prosper in the arab world?
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu The Western governments should do NOTHING, stay out for once! Just respect the Arab's in their quest for freedom, justice and dignity and their own way of democracy based on Islamic culture. Provide moral support and keep people accountable for their opinions and actions and boost trade with the Arab world.
They should however provide support to the brave people of Libya and any uprise against a dictatorship in the Arab world, but respect these nation, so no military on the ground.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk ahhh so here is the catch...If they offer support to any uprising it would automacticly be tagged as "Western Colonial" interference. You are damned in any situation.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu and if you have read careful i said corrupt Arabs! together with the West (mostly EU and USA) disalow Arabs to have democracy and develop themselves. Not Israel.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
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ZaraOver 11 months ago
She says that there were no anti-israel sentiments in Egypt - she should check out the number of posters that had mubarak with a jewish star on his forehead.
avgnyer68 1 year ago
@avgnyer68 Don't try to catch flies. Try to understand her message please. She tries to explain that this revolution is not about Israel. It was about Egyptians. Against a brutal dictator Mubarak. That was strongly supported by the West and Israel. Probably thats why you have seen quiet some Jewish stars. The best joke I have seen during the peaceful protest in Tahrir square was a board with the following text in Arabic: 'Mubarak, do we need to write it in Hebrew? OUT! I think explains it all.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk I'm intersted in this arguement you and Mona keep repeating of Israel supporting Mubarak. On what basis are you writing it? Mubarak at the most was a tolerable neighbour ,he wasn't an "asset" for Israel ,he maintained a cold hostile peace he was no welcomed figure in Israel. This is a Total lie and deception which is ,again, trying to place responsibilty on Israel for the suffering of the Arab population.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu you don't read carefull enough. 1. Israel and the West prefer to support/keep a dictator in place above providing Arab people the same rights as they enjoy themselves 2. The fact that you say Mubarak was 'tolerable' means you do not respect the rights of Egyptians as much as you respect your own rights. 3. Next to currupt Palestinians/Arabs it is Israel that is responsible for suffering of Palestinians and the West for suffering of Arab people.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk I read very carefully i just don't accept your description of things. 1. Israel isn't in the position neither to support nor to keep any Arab leader in place ,contrary to the West which is Funding them directly i agree. 2. As i have no power to grant them those rights as i have it doesn't really matter if i tolerate their leader or not it's a none issue. 3. Right and Wrong ,Israel is indeed causing suffering to the palestinians but usually conflict brings suffering.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu If I may put you in the Israel camp, you for sure block the rights of Palestinians and keep a corrupt Fatah party in place. You are turning things around. I do not accuse Israel for keeping in place Arab dictators or disallowing Arabs to developm themselves (for the Palestinians you do), its only a fact that many Arabs feel their own position best represented by the suffering of Palestinians. That's was exactly what Mona said, if you have watched the film.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk I'm not the Palestinian example is the best that you could have found....In Gaza a democratic vote brought Hamas which is in it's core a Tyranic theocracy as to the current Fatah leadership i hardly think they are considered as corrupt by the palestinian people. (which was the case with Arafat and his gang).
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu You study your Palestine history and 'the palistine papers' better. Fatah is now even more corrupt then it has ever been, the funds they get from the West is way higher now then in Arafat time and what they establish for the people is nothing/less, EVERY PALESTINIAN knows that. Hamas exists because Fatah went totally corrupt, and Hamas was in essential a social service organisation for the poor. If Israel and USA took basic rights of Pale serious way back Hamas would not have existed.
TheHugkk 11 months ago
@TheHugkk Interesting study. I thought Salam Fiad (The prime minister) was very much appriciated and trusted by the Palestinians but i might be wrong. As far as i know Cities As Ramalla and Nablus are gradualy and quickly expending and evoloving..but then again i might be wrong. I would attribute the Hamas popularity more to the corruption of Fatah then to Israel/US behaviour.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
She at least admits to the hatred in her heart towards Israel. That hatred doesn't bode well for peace in the region because eventually that malice will show itself in actions.
721Loretta 1 year ago
@721Loretta time to ask why the hatred! surely no one says A PEACEFUL FRIENDLY HI, and the other reply to him/her/they saying: WE HATE YOU!
once you determine the reason for this hatred, you can correct the sitiuation
have a look over the israeli's actions and then things will make sense
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak The hatred is in her heart, as she herself admits repeatedly. You are correct, no one that is truly peaceful and loving will have this much hatred in his or her heart. Why doesn't she look at herself and correct this truly horrible situation that has flourished in her own heart and mind?
Once the people of the Middle East truly address their racist and murderous attitude toward Israel, then peace will be possible.
Shalom!
721Loretta 11 months ago
@721Loretta no dear, once ISRAELIS stop their CRIMES against everyone in this area of the world, then peace will be possible!
israelis are the ones who came to this land, STARTED KICKING AND KILLING the original ppl and the original owners of the lands, i don't know how the hell someone should be happy and peaceful to someone who came to KILL him? sure the hatred will still remain against the murderers and against the rapists
and thats the case of the zionist israelis they r the true murderers
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Actually there has been a Jewish presence in the land of Israel for 3,500 years, since the time that Moses led the ancient Israelites to the land that God promised to them. Whether you believe in the Bible, or not, even non-religious history is filled with proof that the Jews have lived in Israel long, long before the Palestinian Arabs ever arrived there.
It is a real pity that the Arabs couldn't have welcomed their suffering brothers back home peacefully.
721Loretta 11 months ago
@721Loretta presence, isn't OWNING! second, whatever happens, arabs lived with jews and jews lived with arabs for long times, but when the jews came to KILL AND KICK THE PPL OUT.... EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE ME! HOW CAN SOMEONE NOT TO STAND HIS/HER GROUND AGAINST HIS/HER OWN LIFE?
no one ever said they can't live here, they could have bought and shared the lands and everything, but what the hell about the jews killing the ppl to kick them out ha? who's the murderer here?
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak In your above comment you called the Palestinian Arabs the "original owners" of the land which does imply that presence IS owning. I agree with that and the Israelis are the "original owners" of the land with deeds to it that were written, literally, thousands of years ago.
The Arabs have been violently trying to destroy the Jews out of the land of Israel for some time now, and declare publicly that they will wipe them off of the land of Israel. That is NOT allowing!
721Loretta 11 months ago
@721Loretta soooooooooooo what? original or owners for the time being, at least they didn't KILL ANYONE!
and if they r trying to destroy them for sometime now, its because israelis started that over 60 years ago! and yes, with their actions they deserve to be wiped!
if jews were the original as u said and in massive numbers and bla bla bla bla bla, how come they almost disappeared from there? and then all of a sudden they flooded there again KILLING AND KICKING PPL OUT since 1948!
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Right, so now the truth comes out. You say, in your own words, that Israel "deserve to be wiped". That is genocide. It is murder. It is apartheid. It is racist. But it, at least, is the truth of where the problem really lies. With you.
If you will kindly check with history you will see that the Romans conquered Israel and expelled most of the population. They are returning. They are coming back home. They are there to stay.
721Loretta 11 months ago
@721Loretta first don't take HALF of my sentence, and modify the rest of it ur own way! i was CLEAR , i said:
with the ISRAELI'S CURRENT SITUATION AND ATTITUDE OF KILLING THE PALESTINIANS SAVAGELY, then yeah they DO deserve to be wiped! so don't cut the second half just to highlight it, say everything plz
second, so the jews r punishing palestinians for the crimes that the ROMANS AND THE GERMANS did to the jews? how sick!
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak 1) If only part of what you say is the truth, then only part of warrants being quoted and supported.
2) The Palestinians are the terrorists and have declared their desire to wipe Israel off the map. The Israelis have no choice but to defend themselves from that.
3) The Jews aren't punishing the Palestinians for anything. They are responding to Palestinian terror and murder.
The Jews are there to stay. Deal with it!
721Loretta 11 months ago
@721Loretta yes they do deserve to be wiped and the palestinians wanted this after they've seen what the jews did since they arrived in the late 30's
regarding them going to stay... keep saying this till u feel better
but i so long to find u after they get wiped , cuz its coming soon, and sooner than u think
now that the dictatorships are being removed, the real will of the 400 millions nation will appear, which are to eliminate the murderers zionists of the jews, others are welcome
feel better
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Very sad, very, very sad attitude.
721Loretta 11 months ago
@721Loretta & it won't change, till things r back on the right track again, and nth will change till hypocrisy stops, palestinians aren't the ones who slaughtered jews in holocausts
i'm not gonna say more, justice will come sooner or later and they themselves know it, thats why they keep surrounding themselves with walls and barricades
when someone knows that he's righteous, he/she doesn't fear a thing, but when someone STEALS sth, he runs and seeks shelter and weapons
over n out from my side
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak AbelRahman ,small advice from me ,you seem as an inteligent human being ,you have a high education ,good proffesion and interesting hobbies, I ask you not to get caught in the same language of the cave man ,nobody is going to wipe anybody ,we aren't leaving the prehistoric era ,stop using threats and curses because it wont work and it just displays you as a lunatic. You can argue you can try to convince you can protest ,but going back to slogans of Wiping and eliminating is no good.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu look, i'm gonna tell u one thing man, if u didn't live in the area here, close and saw what we see by ur eyes, u will never know how does it feel like, it makes ur blood boil, try to put urself in our shoes for a moment and tell me how much anger u get, but no one does, u never even try, i asked u so many things but u didn't even answer, where do u live now if i may say? go ahead tell me israel? where did u use to live before? or ur parents?
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak I live in the area ,i live in Israel and i see it much more clearly then a Syrian which is living under a dictatorship which learned in a state sponsored brainwashed schools ,that all his life was subjected to the state controled ,could ever dream to see. Can't you see how pathetic your views are? You lived under a butcher all your life ,your brothers/sisters still live under the allawite brutal regime and you have the nerve asking people to open their eyes? You have no credibility!
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu right u live in the place where everything is shown from one side i suggest that u go and learn whats on the other side of ur GHETTO, which u removed from warsaw to palestine!
and btw, alawite might have done bad things in the past, but things never stay the same and we will remind each other about this, wanna talk about butchers? i suggest u talk about all jews generals
and when we see their crimes hitting civilians with white phosphorus we say God bless hitler and wish he did it all
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu jews always used to live side by side in this whatever u wanna call it, palestine, israel or palesirael or israelestine anything... cuz it remains a land
christianity started shined from there as well, and many demographical changes happened but it wasn't palestinians or arabs or muslims who slaughtered them there, then why to kill them back? if u believe that they gave them a chance, sorry brother u r wrong, if i wanted to immigrate somewhere and live with manners, get a job and ....
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu and buy a land, no one can stop me since i'm doing it the descent way, but to go and buy a gun, and then force the man in the country i'm leaving to , either to leave or to die, and then i call him terrorist for defending himself... ! can't u see that the man's blood will boil? like B.O.I.L. ? live it for a moment and tell me what u think! even when we talk about wiping israel, we r being specific, we can differentiate between zionists and jews don't worry about this, but plz, stop
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Yes if i was an ignorant person which has no idea on real history ,who has no idea what really happaned ,which got all his data from state controled media or musques ,which believes the LIES you write of course my blood would boil. You can't invent a paralel universe with false facts and argue about it. That is why i told you time and again ,go learn the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from CREDIBLE resources. Not Israeli resources ,other Western schoolers.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu sorry dude but who the hell gives the CREDIBILITY to your resources while we SEE WITH OUR eyes here! wanna speak of credibility? don't talk about any media ur bringing ur data from!
we have seen and witnessed things by our fathers and our closest generation, we didn't CREATE a full false history and built a country on!
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak What are you SEEING with your own Eyes???? You don't live in ISrael ,you don't live in Palestine ,so what are you talking about???? Was there Al-Jazeera 20-30-60 years ago??? What did you father and elders till you please tell ,Did they tell you about the Hama Massacare? About Black Septemeber ? About the Hebron lynching? About the Grand Mufti working with the Nazis? What did they tell you?? That they failed to create ONE normal Arab state
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu i've lived in jordan for 5 years, and saw many of the palestinians refugees and we have seen things they showed us which can make ur hair white! don't tell me a full nation would lie! oh sorry sorry! jews do!
they created a country out of lies!
and don't mix things with each other hama or whatever happened in syria is sth different and not even related, to what ur talking about, all i know is sth no nation came to kill and kick other nation to establish a country but the criminal jews
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Actually if you know anything about World politics and History ,then you would have known the the USA was established over the Indians ,Austerllia/New-Zealand over the Aborigins and there are many more examples ,In Israel the Arabs were given an option in 48 not by the ISraelis by the UN and they REFUSED ,they LOST ,and that is why there are refugees in Jordan...You can't have it both ways ,you can't try and destory Israel and then Cry foul when you Lose.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu Yeah i do know, and u urself said things rn't the way they used to be anymore, there won't be another USA in middle east fear not, and if israel was established, its just a step toward the annihilation of the zionist criminals jews thats all, and no they did not refuse only, they refused to be killed and kicked out!
and thats what will be refused till the day u join the UN-DEAFEATABLE army which couldn't defeat a small party like hizbo-allah ! just to show u an example that when ...
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Yep they refused...Check the UN plan. Arab state sidebyside to Israel ,That were the options. They refused. Again. and Again. They lost.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu oh really? u load the gun, kill someone, kill his brother, THEN U WANT HIS OTHER BROTHER TO ACCEPT TO LEAVE OR DIE? what the fuck!
just answer this one damn fucking question, cuz ur running in circles and avoiding all my question simply cuz they strip u out to the naked truth:
if jews came peacefully to live with palestinians to live and build the land together and shits like that, WHY TO HOLD GUNS FROM THE START AND GET COVERED BY ARMIES HA?
any immigrants go anywhere in peace!
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak We are getting to the point where you estabilshed yourself as another useless and ignorant arab poster. You try to spin and throw logic where History and facts are present and speak louder then any speculation. Jews came to Israel to establish the National Jewish State ,there was no such thing as Palestinians in the 19th century ,only native arabs with no national identity or inspiration. While Jews tried building their homeleand the Arabs just destroyed and killed.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu When the Local Arabs were offered a state by the United nations they refused and instead lunched a war on destruction against the Newly state of Israel with their fellow degenerate brothersas Syria ,Egypt ,Iraq and more. Israel didn't triger the War it just Won it. And now 60 years later your injured pride ,your miserable lives ,your poor wratched underdeveloped countries just cant stand that Israel still exists proud and more advanced then anyone of you can dream of. Simple Jelousy.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu oh really? history and facts ha? as if the jews FOR FACTS were the majority in the 18th of 17th or even 19th century! if so, then WHY THE HELL BRINGING ALL THOSE IMMIGRANTS? THOSE HOMELESS ones? dude u r pathetic u know why? cuz u don't read and wanna just write here claiming that u r the poor victims, yes indeed, u r pathetic victims and we consider israel nothing more than a cancerous tumor that will be removed sooner than u think, establish a land ha? over dead bodies indeed
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu why to get damn armies with them unless they have INTENTIONS to start some evil wicked sick inhuman plan!
and the other part of the question is, if jews r the chosen ppl, and amazing nation bla bla bla bla, why is it hated everywhere and pushed just to stay where it got banished to after the WWII to be specific!
go check the history of ur grandfathers and ur ancestors and u'll know why!
the arabs ur talking about were known for centuries for their good hospitality...
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu and now a homeless nation wanna tell me that arabs started the war? get some logic while ur talking and most important, know whom ur talking about pal, there's a say in arabic says:
la dokhana bela nar! ....which means: there is no smoke without fire
review the dirty things ur leaders and even ur citizens do then talk about arabs, poor victims, poor jews
now we understand why hitler said: i could kill all the jews, but i left u some so that u know why i was killing them
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Like i said you are useless and helpless ,if you need to "use" Hitler to prove any of your points then you are indeed a poor soul.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu dude u r the helpless hopeless and useless as well, cuz yes what we say is true, and this is whats making u shut up! u think it was, is or will be only hitler? naaaaaaaaaaaaa, loads of nations hate the jews for their known dirty scum bags actions, and now ur proving that ur one of them by defending starting of the killing in palestine! knock it off pathetic, what do say about der yaseen ya? 110 workers and farmers were on their way home! WHY THE FUCK DID THEY KILL THEM?
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu that when ur cartoon army, takes the chances it deserves, it will do nth! israel couldn't even defeat hizboallah cuz it was a fair battle between a small party.. and an .. excuse me? what do u call it? the army of israel? so we will see what will happen in a fair battle between armies in the middle east, and its not so far from now
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak I think you also have no grasp what is a War...My little delusional friend. Hizbolla isn't an Army it's a well orgenized guarilla terrorist group ,fighting such a group is completly different then fighting an army..Destroying a terrorist group hiding behind schools and musques is very hard..Ask the Americans and the Russians...Fighting an army is a total different thing...Don't get confused...
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu nice u said it urself! right? a small group not army but had a fair fight with what u call the best army in the middle east my ass? and yet , israel couldn't destroy this GUARILLA TERRORIST GROUP? great army indeed ! INDEED!
and im wondering :O where were the mosques and the schools in the FORESTS? :O i've never seen a mosque in the middle of the lebanese forests :O am i missing sth my geological educated friend?
oh i forgot, israel teaches u so to give excuses to hit mosques! SICK!
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu and if ur gonna compare hama to other things, i think that u know that everywhere in the whole world, the ones who oppose the real policy of some country r being eleminated either secretly or in public, and NO ONE SINGLE DAMN country doesn't do this, starting from ur own fake country itself!
anyone stands in the way of something is eliminated, so cut the useless crap plz cuz its irrelative
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak No actually i don't know that and you know why? Because in Democracy the leader can't act as barbarians and walk free ,in Democracy you can't kills thousends and Burry them under Cement (Hama) ,keep telling lies to yourself. If you were brave enough you would fight Basher El-Assad ,But you are a Coward hiding behind a Keyboard thinking Israel is the reason for all your troubles. At least the Egyptian had guts and balls to fight for there freedom ,shame the rest of you are COWARDS.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu no dude, cuz bashar at least tried and is still trying to correct what his father did, besides, as we said, they r things that can't be compared to each other, so cut the crap
speaking of cowardS? i don't know who LIVES BEHIND A CONCRETE WALL? ME OR U?
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak So you support Bashar? Rule of minority over majority ,are you part of Assad family? I admire your care for the Palestinians yet you have no compassion for your fellow syrians - Why don't you go out and demonstrate in Damescus? Don't you want to be free? Join the Egyptian revolution ,The Lybian revolution - stop directing all you energy at Israel.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu yes we do support him, not only me, many of us, cuz he was aware of the past and knew how to correct things even on a slow level we don't care, but yeah we do care for the palestinians and the muslims and everyone died on the hands of ur criminal leaders, and yeah israel is the essence of all the DIRT in this area, and is the reason of all the shits going around as well, cuz simply its a CANCER, that was planted in the body of this area of the world and it will be erased soon fear not
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak And now that you have esablished yourself as a Nazi sympetizer ,as a dictator supporter (Bashar and his terror regim),as supporting occupation (of Lebanon by Syria) What else is left of you?? Go back to your Guitar to and fantasize that your live in a world where you are Free. Because you aren't ,you are a slave,a poor brainwashed Slave,with no freedom ,no civil rights ,no equality ,Nothing! I just returned from a day Skiiing in the Golan - constant memory of your defeat. Bye Loser.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu i suggest u go back to your GHETTO and remember that we r coming for u sooner or later, as we said before, cuz if u were righteous, u wouldn't be living in all this fear! poor nation, a group of ppl made u piss in ur pants, so imagine what will happen when armies like hizboallah will jump and kick u back to the trash cans where u used to live! can't wait enough for the day!
bye...murderer!
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Still support Bashar ? :) how many more of your brothers should be murdered till you change your mind...Forgive me for popping by but i couldn't help myslef...Still think he knows how to correct things? You can go back to your delusional life my friend...Body count is growing in Dar'aa while you play your guitar. Farewell.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu Personally, I do not like Qaddafi, Assad, Netanyahu, and Lieberman. I don't like undemocratic people full stop. We are all human beings and need normal relations and actions between the people down there not war all the time.
QUINTUSMAXIMUS 10 months ago
@skydancerak How many more need to be butchered in Dara'a ,Latakia ,Damesqus? More Arabs massacred by Arabs in one month then ISrael Killed for the last 5 years.....Wake Up dude.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu So are you saying whatever Syria's dictator does makes everything Israel's prime minister do okay? It would be like saying America should feel free to do what it wants in Afghanistan, after all Germany did the holocaust and the Russians killed millions of their own people. That's not a moral yard stick.
QUINTUSMAXIMUS 11 months ago
@QUINTUSMAXIMU Where did i say this?
MrEupheu 10 months ago
@MrEupheu You were talking about the crimes of Hafez Al Assad. We know Assad's crimes, he is a dictator. So do you want to hold Israel to the same standard as a minority dictatorship? Does it mean Israel should not care about the human rights of Arabs because of Hafez Al Assad? The point is all human beings should live together and not abusing human rights.
QUINTUSMAXIMUS 10 months ago
@MrEupheu syrians killing syrians for politic shits is sth, and (for example) syrians killing and occupying jordan and killing its own ppl is sth different! how do u resemble the crimes of the jews in palestine to the crimes of a single individual person who happened to be a president of a country for some era of time ha?
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu please stop denying israel striked palestinians with weapons that r forbidden even in biggest scales wars com'n!!!!!!!!!! now u'll tell me who started i'll tell u again go back talk to ppl who r still alive, over 60s and tell me what u think, everyone knows what happened, but if ur gonna go back to the media and specially ur media and the western one, u'll never put ur eyes on what happened, still happening, and will always happen till the war comes and things r back on the right track
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak So you would believe the Arab Media over the Western media i understand?? You just admited it. You live in the Area you KNOW all Arab media are state controled you KNOW that all Arab countires are Dictatorship ,you KNOW that the political system in the Arab world is not based on freedom of speech ,freedom of thought ,freedom for Truth. but you still believe the ARAB BRAINWASH PROPOGANDA machine over democratic systems???? And you still think War will fix anything? Pathetic.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu yes of course we do, and we do know how to differentiate between controlled ones and independent ones don't worry, at least al jazeera is still there, and we've seen things on it and in reality as well, and i've lived in jordan close enough while all ur western media is surely financed and supported by zionists and we can see this dont' worry! and yeah war will fix lots of things, it will send the killers back to hell or to their homes, and let those who wanna live in real peace stay!
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Who is going to fight this War AbdelRahman? Same Ignorant poor Arab people which fought all the previous wars and LOST ,you know what differs us from cave man? That we are able to learn from our mistakes and change our ways ,if you suggest on another War then you are no different from Your fathers and forefathers which fought and LOST. Think again ,you have the chance to do things differently.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu i don't know, u tell me, 400 millions against a couple of butchers who are afraid enough to bury themselves in GHETTOS and hide behind walls cuz they do know that they unrighteous who do u think will win? and yes we r no different, but the thing that will differ, is that we r gonna eliminate the traitors who sold ur ancestors the whole case, and things will be put back the way it should be!
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak You talk like a child AbdelRahman....It was never a metter of numbers ,The Arab world was always hundred times bigger then Israel ,that was the case in 48 in 67 in 73 and also Today..Do you think making threats or promises over the Internet impresses anyone? You are a fcking university graduate (so you claim) ,you are 31 years old (so you claim) ,isn't it time you grow up? If the mentalitiy of the Arab world remains as hostile as yours you will always remain backward and retarded.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu when the numbers take the full actions without the dirty works of ur nation and without the MALFUNCTIONED weapons which without, jews would have been annihilated again on 48, and we know this, don't tell me its a lie as well ok? when someone shoots from a gun that explodes in his/her face its different than when he/she shoots and kills someone
so yeah, we will remain hostile to u, cuz u wanna steal sth and be welcomed! which will not happen
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak You crack me up...First time i hear of the MALFUNCTION conspiracy,,,So they Weapons were faulty on ALL wars? Don't you you check your Gun before shooting it? You understand how ridicules your LIES are? and if it's true then the Arab soldier is a complete Idiot and that is why he would never have a chance if beating any western army in a thousend years....BTW as to stealing land isn't Syria tried trying to take over Lebanon?I'm looking for a peacefull solution you are acting childish
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu of course first time! cuz ur blind on the shits ur nation does!
the list doesn't get done, and everyone from the west participated in the conspiracy! to GET RID FROM THE JEWS FROM THEIR COUNTRIES AND SEND THEM SOMEWHERE TO GET PEACE OF MINE FROM THEM, can't u see it? u still can't see how hated u r ? till now u didn't comment about germany's thing? and everyday's actions in france ? and and and and? why not? of course u don't know, israel is the angel? sabra? shateela? jeneen?
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak What about Sabra and Shateela...You are aware the This massacre was done by your Arab borthers right from the Christian Phalangs ,Yes Israel could have stoped it but let's not forget it was your Arab brothers butchering the Palesinians in the Camp...And What about Jenin ,another huge lie coming from your Propoganda machine ,how many died in Jenin do you even know?? I rememeber the screams and yelling talking of hundreds and thousends - you know the real number? 55! mostly armed.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu were they armed villages? the son of the bitch sharon, and others annihilated them killing kids and newborns! knock it off, if u don't know a thing from the crimes jews started since 48 and till now, then don't even comment back! and u want ppl not to boil ha? and yes lebanon was ALWAYS a part of the natural syria, and its their choice to get back to it or not, and is syria not trying to do so? yes it is! and it has allies there for that, but at least, it doesn't SEND SYRIANS there..
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu with massive amounts and numbers to KICK AND KILL the lebanese! don't u see the difference between the dirty way of the jews and other things now?
yes the syrian army went there on THEIR DAMN REQUEST (lebanese) and when the french conspiracy found its way, along with the israeli and american, it went out again, and now they r almost begging for it to come back again, i
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu t remains almost an internal issue, if not between syrians and lebanese, then between arabs themselves, and still IRRELATIVE to ur crime jews
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Yes i's irrlevent to the Israeli issue but is has everything to do with you - YOU are a Hypocrite and a Liar ,you would accept Syria Occupation of Lebanon ,you accept A dictator rule (Bashar) over your people yet you talk of "crimes" of Jews - i feel sorry and pitty for. I thought you were more opened minded and willing to listen but you aren't. You live in fear ,you can't vote ,you can't demonstrate ,you can't view your opinion freely. You are a slave of ignorance.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu first of all, its so different again, and lebanon was always and will always remain a region of syria, and now since u keep blabbermouthing about the history, i suggest u go back to it and read a bit about it, and ask a bit about it too and know when lebanon was separated from syria and BY THE FRENCH FORCE, and hypocrisy? u jews r talking about it? how funny! u cry and mourn all the times if someone SPOKE of the holocaust, but when someone attacks the feelings of 1 billion persons
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Really? Lebanon will always remain a region of Syria ,Did you bother asking the Lebaneese? Lebanon is a soverign country last time i checked but appearntly you have other plans. You have some nerve opening your mouth on occupation and crimes and at the same time supporting Syrian occupation of Lebanon ,that must be some world record you are breaking here!!
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu yes it will remain so, and if there were some PUPPETS of france and other countries there in lebanon, then the majority allies with syria btw, so don't get too carried away with it, and look at whats going on before u speak, al hariri and his gang r mourning while u r wondering whats going on, and the alliance will be translated again i suggest that u really should think why europe is supporting the jews so much to stay in what so called israel and not to come back to where they lived
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu and why european countries were so happy to cleanse their countries out of jews and got relieved of having other nationality finally, yet u say we just hate the zionists, sorry pal, the only ones truly hated around r the jews and for their DIRTY SCUM BAG ACTIONS, all over
time to cry...go ahead
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu of 1 billion persons by making fun of their prophet, then its freedom of expression! u r the real hypocrites! when a jewish person does sth even u admit to be wrong, u blame the name, but when a muslim person does sth wrong, u blame the nation, hypocrites, and u speak of hypocrisy? hamas striked missles on u? home made missles? u striked with white phosphorus for God's sake! hypocrites! self defense? against children ha? against infants and new born? what a sick nation u r jews
skydancerak 11 months ago
@skydancerak Did i for one second made Fun of your prophet? Why do you keep lying? Find me one post i even mentioned Mohamed and i'll appoligize and post no more ok? As to Gaza it won't help you. As long as Hammas fires rockets at Israel ,After ISrael returned the WHOLE Gaza strip to the Palestinians ,it would be hit back ,As long as Hammas fire rockets from withing schools and Musques then yes it is putting it's civilians in harm way. White Phosphotus - do you even know what it is used for??
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@MrEupheu if u were reading what i wrote more carefully u wouldn't even said a thing about that, i'm not lying and i'm not accusing u personally of that! i was stating how the hypocrite media do things around, but now i see where ur replies come from, u don't even read carefully and u just start writing right away!
i was giving an example of the hypocrite media ur counting on, which when our prophet was insulted, it considered it a freedom of speech, but else than that, its racism!
skydancerak 11 months ago
@MrEupheu and thats the MEDIA U CALL THAT IT HAS HIGH CREDIBILITY! WHICH U ASK ME TO LISTEN TO!
second, yes im a pharmacist, which means a chemist and i do know what is white phosphorus! ( i hope u learn how to spell it right first
and ur proud criminal leaders threw it on schools on ppl & burned them alive! yet wen a small HOME MADE missile was fired in response, jews went crying, ooooooooooh dear lord we r being killed savagely
knock it off, & learn what ur STRONG army uses against civilians
skydancerak 11 months ago
@721Loretta LOL - are you for real? or are you one of those Zionist shills that roam Youtube and other site to spread Israel's lies?? What world do you live in? So, anything Israel does is ok because they are the chosen people ha? Well, let me tell you how I feel - Fuck Israel and Fuck everyone who supports that Zionist Nazi cancer. People are not buying Israel lies anymore. Go back a little in history and see who is the terrorist here, actually Israel the the epidemy of terror!
llg4ever 11 months ago
@llg4ever Not everything Israel does is ok and of course they aren't the chosen people...But as Israel isn't going to Fuck itself and the Zionist aren't going anywhere try being more constructive then just behaving like a drooling lunatic.
MrEupheu 11 months ago
@llg4ever I am for real, thanks for asking. And thanks so much for sharing your point of view. Unfortunately it's so full of hate that I see now point in addressing any of your issues.
Your attitude makes it clear why Israel is so in danger.
721Loretta 11 months ago
@skydancerak if the romans kicked the jews outta palestine's land, then palestinians came and lived there and structured the whole country all over again, then the germans burned and killed jews by dozens, so jews have the right to come back to KICK AND KILL PALESTINIANS? what a really sick logic!
palestinians have been defending themselves since the jews came and raped the land NOT PEACEFULLY AT ALL! and kicked and killed hundreds of thousands of palestinians! thats the real crime!
skydancerak 11 months ago