Heha everyone has so much hate. The only way you get better is if you keep racing people. Your going to lose and your going to win that is a fact. If it is any other way then you really are just racing people you know your going to beat. I like both cars and maybe next time they race the cobra driver will do better. And primus3601 sounding full of shit with that post lol. We all know Cobra's are amazing machines lol. Real enthusiasts give respect to their rivals.
@primus3601 just provest that you a complete fag and cant see that the pontiac is modded as hell. a stock cobra produces 390 hp 390fttq thats more than the trans am by 50hp so either the cobra had a bad driver or the trans am was more than just bolt ons
i am soooo fucking sick of seeing these rich little fucks buying gt500s cobras ford gts and not knowing how to fucking drive it. pisses me off. my uncle took his STOCK 2004 mach 1 12.98 with 305hp. yet ppl cant take a car with 500hp or 390hp and outrun something like a ws6 or ss camaro. un fucking real. ive seen STOCK 04 cobras run high 12s and gt500s with a good driver run 11.90s. i was at the track not too long ago some guy took his 05 mustang 16.30s!!!! wtf? prolly same guy in this video.
Dude..Im killing my driods battery over somthing that will never end in a viable answer as to why you call out smashing mustangs or calling the car gay but still don't see yourself as biased. and still cant find anything on a toyota and gm deal with the 5.7...so this is my final BS whatever statement. later.
@thunderup86 just putting it out there that i am a f-body and ford guy. But i i didnt like how you put a 2010 model up. why dont you advertise the 2012 mustang...against 2012 camaro? notice how much of a difference one year makes? its like comparing an 04 mustang terminator to an 02 cobra. its not the same car.
@zipo1200 yeah I got what you are saying. you also have to understand that i give credit to ford for finally grabbing there balls and saying we wont take the crotch shots from GM anymore 40+ years GM has smacked fords best vehicle stock to stock and in 2012 finally made a mustang on purpose that can beat a comparable camaro ss but I am tired of mustang people comparing a blown vehicle to a non blown vehicle I know 8psi is shit but its still a BLOWN motor yanno
@thunderup86 HAHAHAHA...glad you believe what the internet says..and look up a 2011 mustang. 12.7's all day in the 1/4. Good riddance to that pile of crap 3v that the 2010's had.
@04gtstang I doubt it that blower only pushes 8psi all ford did was slap a shitty blower on a shitty underpowered 4.6 motor so ford does not have to be embarrassed that GM crushes ford every year with there high output 5.7
@thunderup86 You fanbois have a hard time believeing a 4v 4.6 can't lay waste to a bigger engine huh? Underpowered? Yeah the blowers stock sucked but that 4.6 with mahle forged internals will stock support just as much if not more than the LS series engines. you can mod a ls to handle that and more but a STOCK bottom end 03-04 cobra will chew up 700hp all day and keep going. and when was the last time you checked the engines gm is using? 5.7 has LONG been gone. check your facts.
@AudiS403 thats the whole point and you fanboys still dont understang lol #s are #s because there based off facts and the truth of the matter is ford mustang for the past 45+ years has always been known as the nice body cheap muscle car that can be easily modified but ask any realistic track going mustang fan they will tell you that not until recently has the mustang stock to stock motor to motor beaten a camaro non blower by the way it was not the 4.6 that made 03-04 great the IRS made it great
@thunderup86 And the IRS made the cobra? BWAHAHAHAHA that's one of the first thing drag racers take out..that cast iron 4.6 that was totally different from the all aluminum pieces that came in the previous cobras was exactly what made them badass, that and the complete forged internals that will hold a shitload of power stock. oh and the fact it finally came with a 6-speed. but hey..you know everything so I'll just leave it at that..
@AudiS403 yup I do no eveything BWAHAHAHA the COBRA is gay still fact is fact FORD needs a blower to be worth anything and BUY the way cadillac has the CTS-V supercharged that has just been rated with more HP then the COBRA well good luck next year but I guess ford people must be tired of hearing that for the last 45 + years BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! FORD 0 GM 45+
@thunderup86 Wow...your runon sentance was pretty useless. A. Ford utalizes a blower to make the same power as a bigger v-8. B. cadillac CTS-V is the detuned Zr1 motor and still costs a hefty 90k. Wow...550hp for 90k. not impressed. and c.unlike your obama owned motors the New mustang GT is handing your little 6.2L camaro its ass in the 1/4 mile, circle track and every other area you want to goto. oh yeah..and it's just a lil ol' 5.0 n/a motor. please sit down and quit licking windows.
@thunderup86 Wow...I watched your Ford vs Chevy comparo video..and I must say..not only are you a closet case chevy lover trying to play that you like both..but you are a idiot. A. your statement "does corvette make a supercharged car? why yes they do...its a ZR1" Well chevy makes that car but...not to be the picky asshole here..you say chevy has alway beaten ford apples to apples huh? then why are you comparing a Mustang GT to a camaro SS? that would be a 03-04 cobras territory.
@AudiS403 Im tired of mustang fans comparing a cobra to a camaro ss ford produces what 4-5 different mustangs LMAO how many does chevy make UMMMMMM 2 LMAO of course mustang fans will pick the one that beats the camaro ss and latch lol compare v6 to v6, compare v8 to v8, compare v8s to v8s. But comparing a supercharged V8 to a naturally aspirated all motor vehicle is just dumb ass shit. its not GM's fault they did not put a blower on the camaro ss in the early 2000's would have smashed the cobra
@thunderup86 Dumb how? Like compareing a NA 350 to a NA 281? you need to pick your battle...and is LMAO you favorite word? Oh and Im not dissect...dissect..hahahaa your comments. but anyone who sees another person start by calling another car gay..or throwing lame ass insults at it as you do will be looked at as he is...a complete poser that is biased..its cool dude..have a good one..LMAO LMAO LMAO!
@AudiS403 poser? buddy my car pushes 380hp and 350tq with stock heads a poser I am not. and every comment I have laid down to somebody else you have commented back on which is a great case of trolling which you my ignorant friend HAVE been dissecting my comments finding the right moment to strike well like a troll would do . man you have a good one as well.
@thunderup86 Ummm what the hell does your friends car have to do with you? I have fast cars of my own on streetfire . net if you want to look up 2008gixxer1k feel free. I called you a poser because you sir are acting as a person that "isnt biased" but one of your first comments is the mustang was gay and other little tidbits you like to throw down. and everything I look up on the toyota relation to the 5.7L gm platform has been debunked everywere by everyone...INCLUDING TOYOTA! Sho me proof.
@AudiS403 HUH? I have a video of my car on here lol but anyways to be a POSER I have to be posing on something like to copy another with no intent of originality I mean if your going to call me somethin at least make it sound like you know what your talking about. so how am i posing again? I would just like to know I dont pose. I have a 383 stroker with dual plane air gap intake 750cfm holley carb lunati 268/280 duarion voodoo cam PRO BUILD 700r4 2800 stall with a BUILT 3.73 rear end
@thunderup86 Ok...I can do engines...this is gonna rock.. What's your LSA on that cam? and how did you degree it? and with that 383 I'm assuming you built..which pushrod is longer..the intake or exhaust? and what crank did you use after you bored the 350 .030 over?...rods? pistons? trust me...your not going to loose me in terminology with this..so have at it..and dont look it up on the internet either
@thunderup86 Rocker arm ratio?...how about CC volume in the head itself? did you hone the cylinders? what type of rings did you use? timing set - chain? double roller? full gear? how about lower end...what type of bearings? did you platigauge the crank to rods or do you have the $400 crank dial indicator?
@AudiS403 so i was right about dissecting lol but anyways rocker arm 1.5 3/8 195cc 65cc chamber rings i dont know they came complete the timing chain is a lunati double roller I had all my components and timing done with the motor heads and cam done by ABEL racing in oklahoma city not sure about the bearings the crank is a eagle 4340 crank it was originally a 5.7 out of a 400 block but went with something stronger instead abel told me when heads get put on i should see 440-460 hp and about 470t
@thunderup86 I dont think you realize Im just pointing out the fact you Will down the mustang...as you just said you will be able to smash the boss...but no mention of a GM product like a camaro that is slower than a Base 5.0 GT. I could honestly care if your car exhists...just the fact you are a poser in the fact you desciminate on the mustangs by downing them by calling them gay or saying you will smash it but your not biased...thats what i dont get.
@AudiS403 stop saying poser im not putting you down or nothing but the word your looking for a hypocrite not poser. but what im trying to say is look how long it took for them to actually beat a camaro ss with a actual comparable vehicle I mean non-blown yanno thats all im saying is just why they took so long thats all I have owned 3 muscle cars all of them GM I have a buddy that does own a cobra and when we talk we both are non biased we like different things about each others ride yanno
@thunderup86 Funny part is your video of your car running has music over it..can't hear the motor. wierd..a cam of the spec you laid out would have a noticeable idle...guessing thats why we can't hear it. and I have several cars..gm and ford..so I hate equally on dickheads like you that like to play pretend while real drivers that build there cars and dont just buy "prebuilt" supposed 383's actually know what they have and race it. keep changing the subject.
ohh and by the way the word your looking for is hypocrite not poser LMAO LMAO im saying one thing they doing another I think I am correct HMMMMM.. buddy this is my car my title and my hard work just like I can say about your bike so im guessing you dont even own a car but again it really does not matter once I get my trickflow heads put on I will beable to smash even the new boss mustang all for a total of 7k spent lol
@thunderup86 IF your KING racing ass ever comes up here I and a few of my friends will be more than willing to kick the shit ouf of your car...and one of them happens to be a 383 Iroc that runs like a son of a bitch but the guy built it and knows what he's talking about..as for my bike...feel free to take that in a race for your trickflow engine that has no soundclip besides music
@thunderup86 You have helped me so much I cant begin to thank you. I will now make sure my 16 month old son is raised like I was to love domestic vehicles reguarless of make..but to realize when jerkoffs like you say they have this or that but love all cars the same and then start bashing one but still saying you love both the same to punch you right in your cocksucker like you deserve.
@AudiS403 lol my cocksucker? i think your funny. not being sarcastic anybody that can say punch you in your cocksucker and keep a straight face is a tight ass i didnt want to go with a 2800 stall i wanted to go with a 2500 but I am a member of thirdgen.org I have guys help me all the time on car stuff alot of things i say have already been talked about buy 1000's of actual car guys who have better things to do then sit on youtube like us and fight lol
@thunderup86 And you should be proud of building a car that can beat a 40k boss mustang...but you didnt mention the camaro..but not to be biased here but that boss will kick your ass all over a road course. I bet this will burn your ass...for friends cars...I have a friend with a 98 civic hatch that N/A with a worked over 2.3L (spent around 3k on the motor out of a totaled car and mods to it runs 10.9's. so he has around 6500 into his car..lets see ya touch 10.9's with that car of yours.
@thunderup86 Your one of those guys that thinks your shit doesnt stink and your never wrong. that's what I was out to prove..and while you dodge...no pun intended questions and just go onto somthing like how fast your friends car is..not one you own..but a friends i just find you as a person funny trying to call other people in your videos out. I have friends with 6 second dragsters too bud...I on the otherhand dont use them for references to my automotive knowledge.
@thunderup86 And for your KING of dragracing comment...I assure you with traveling around with my friends from strip to strip and state to state...your state isnt king. I hate to say it but texas has some of the fastest cars we have ever seen. the 10.5 outlaw class down there is absolutly nuts. and while BBC and SBC are very common on the strip explain to me why almost every single pro team uses the hemis? And I really would like proof on your toyota 350.
@thunderup86 Because not to lose you here..but the 5.7L Iforce not only has a completely different deck hieght,oil galley config,lower splayed main caps,different journal sizes for the crank, and timing cover that physically cannot bolt up to the way the GM350 was. but the fact one of the few trades toyota and GM did was when GM used a toyota 1.8L in the Prism. so I would love a link to a official site that shows this.
@thunderup86 and while the Z28 was still quicker in most cases it wasnt by as much as comparing a SS camaro to a Mustang GT. Keep up your biased opinions. I really don't care either way..just love getting on here talking to people like you about really anything you say your not biased on when in fact that's exactly what you are. And I love how you almost bitch about the mustangs coming stock with a supercharger then quit to retort with the ZR1 comment. its 130k car..it better have somthing!
@AudiS403 yeah but I never said a ZR1 was ever a stock vehicle like I said when it is not all MOTOR it truly is a non stock in my eyes. I am truly not biased im a realist I go off of factory #s and 3rd party figures I only sound biased because GM vs FORD stock has just been a normal thing for so many years and with FORD not grabbing there balls till recently it seriously looks like GM threw them a cookie then ripped it from them lol when just now releasing the CTS-V 563hp caddy
@thunderup86 And what in the hell are you compareing the caddi too? Ford makes nothing that even is in the same production niche! and to say your not biased is a complete joke. You may only be on here saying your stating facts but its your little comments you try and sneak in that prove otherwise in a very suttle light. like your little cookie comment or your keeping score 45-0...please dude. oh yeah in the early 90's the fox bodies actually posted slightly quicker times than the first IROCs too
@AudiS403 I am comparing the CTS-V 2011-2012 supercharged vs 2011-2012 ford GT500 sollie on power alone not class were the fuck are you at were talking about power Im not talking about anything else LMAO a CTS-V is a damn camaro ss with a supercharger 6.2 blown and if people keep writing me about mustangs and all Im aloud to write back is about chevy im going to sound biased. makes sense especially people like you that blow up ever comment and dissect everything I say. you= troll LMAO
@thunderup86 And the ZR1 is a completely stock vehicle. how you see that as modified is beyond me. but your probably just pissed the new 5.0 GT mustang is taking down the camaro at the dragstip and roadcourse with a smaller engine and N/A also now. I don't know were you get your facts on your videos that are hillarious to watch because you can tell your only going off knowledge you get off a webpage and dont have for yourself. but anyway, as i said before keep up the tunnel vision.
@AudiS403 but thats all that matters facts and #s are what they are you cant argue facts and #s jackass lol there are so many engine variables it would be impossible to say who was better besides comparing stock to stock LMAO I BELIEVE ANY CAR THAT IS NOT ALL MOTOR AND NOT ALL NATURALLY ASPIRATED EVEN IF IT COMES OFF THE ASSEMBLY LINE IS NOT A STOCK VEHICLE I CONSIDER THAT FACTORY MODIFIED MAKES GREAT SENSE STOP TROLLING ME! LMAO
@thunderup86 "yup I do no eveything BWAHAHAHA the COBRA is gay still fact is fact FORD needs a blower to be worth anything and BUY the way cadillac has the CTS-V supercharged that has just been rated with more HP then the COBRA well good luck next year but I guess ford people must be tired of hearing that for the last 45 + years BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! FORD 0 GM 45+" This is your exact qoute...and your not biased? BWAHAHAHAHA. you need to goto debate class bud.
@AudiS403 my facts are fine they still were using then 5 years ago in the GTO then GM sold the blueprint to TOYOTA which they use the blueprint in there trucks slighty modified of course but a GM blueprint non the less mustang is ok but only because they are easy to work on and it does not take much to modify to make them fast but what MUSTANG fans dont get is stock to stock it just has not cut the mustard why do you think most drag car guys engine of choice is either a SBC OR BBC.
@thunderup86 Funny...last time I checked the most popular motor at the track i goto is the Hemi...392 or 426...but hey you seem to know everything...especially like them selling the 350 to toyota...HAHAHAHAHA!...you realize that engine was developed from the ground up by toyota right? why do you think they had the recalls on them when they first came out about the camshaft issues? because they rushed the development to get it out before sept for the next year cycle.
@AudiS403 thats funny last time I checked at my track in oklahoma city which is mid west where racing is KING and the most popular cars run 454bbc or 427bbc. I sold GM vehicles for 5 years toyota to this day has 15% of there parts are made by GM including the blueprint motor of GM's 5.7 toyota utilized the already proven 5.7 motor GM ran forever and just hands down made it there own by making it better.
@AudiS403 I also want to comment on the early 90's as well yes I liked the foxbody's much more then I liked the camaro or firebird hell I did own a 7 GTA and still like the foxbody more but only because FORD got it right put a good 5.0 motor 302 in a super light vehicle and also decided to make the rear gears 3.73 which was available for the GM but super rare and only available for manual transmissions but I can say as argument put the 5.7 TPI in the mustang and it would be even faster.
@AudiS403 and the fact of the early 90"s is the camaro and firebirds well equipped weighed a little more then 3400 pounds yanno and how much did the foxbody weigh? im guessing 2900-3100 My favorite mustangs were the foxbody's but there is a saying in racing. nothing can replace displacement why do you think they utilized a supercharger to match up with bigger V8 why didnt they just make a larger displacement motor? because they are a cheaper muscle car easily modifiable easy to work on.
Just for the dumb ass with the crappy 2 valve comment the new ls3 heads r flowing 365 cfm on the intake WTF r the ford heads flowing... Nothing close to that... And just so u no the new 5.0 is good but the way the r made it is like having a cam from the factory so they will not make no big ganes from a cam but take the ls3 and put a cam in it and turn it 7000 rpm and watch the fuck out. And on a side note the auto camaro is a l99 the six speed is a ls3 big diff the ls3 makes about 385 to the wh
@Kodysgirl92 yeah i looked up the rpm range on those fords and the say max 6000 rpm on the track you might not need more then that but thats still shitty lol
@Kodysgirl92 your forgetting timing adjustment. power and torque gains from factory are made for "ideal" driving conditions. you forget to say with VVCT you can sustain proper torque load with with an endless hp band to peak 7500rpm. this technology alone cannot be matched with an ls3 motor due to its limitations on relying on one style valve timing. LS gains are better at higher rpm and most prefer an aggressive intake cam... but what if the guy beside you is putting down 60ft/tq and
@Kodysgirl92 hitting and endless supply of intake cfm throught the powerband... your fucked from the start. where as a 2v mustang can get eaten up due to its lack of vvt and poor cfm on both ends.. There is much more to talk about than. Hey! my heads flow better than yours. so i am better than you. i hope you dont apply this to anything. because it takes years to understand proper lobe adjustment to your specific needs and to what application. Both are very good! but they are VERY different
Bolt ons, huh? You know, something like a 200 shot of nitrous is not really considered a bolt on, and that's about what it would take to pull that Cobra the way it did. I have a feeling the description here is not 100% truthful.
@starscream4icecream Im with you on this one, im not saying I havent seen T/As and Camaros out there beat a Cobra before, but I've never seen one beat a Cobra by this much with just bolt ons..
@GOMEZ99Christian Pretty sure by the way the T/A pulled in the beginning that he had 4.10's...he pulled HARD on that Cobra in the beginning. If it was a 50MPH roll, the Cobra would have won, lower gears and more top end HP.
@GOMEZ99Christian There is another video in the related video's section, "00 WS6 vs 04 Cobra" with 9,655 views. In that vid it says he has 4.10 gears, looks like the same cars here. 4.10 gears would explain how he pulled on the Cobra so hard in the beginning.
The new 6.2's in the Camaros have so much drivetrain loss. 426 to the motor and 333 to the wheels for an auto? What the hell... They shouldnt even rate them to the motor if its gonna be that different. Thats like 25% drivetrain loss. Horrible..
@HellenKeller9 no im just making a point that ford doesn't need nearly 6 litres of displacement to make power. i.e. the new 5.0...beats the shit out of the new camaro ss
@03silversvtcobra yeah ford is making very good power for the 5.0....and is lighter and all that good stuff. but the 6.2 does have more potential than the coyote.
I own both an 01 WS6 and an 03 Cobra and stock for stock they're pretty close. The cobra should have won, but it can be a drivers race. My WS6 dynoed 327 bone stock and my Cobra dynoed 370. Now with a 3500 stall and drag radials I was pulling better times than my stock Cobra. I ran a best of 12.6 with only a stall and a best of 12.9 with my Cobra. So stop arguing and lets all get along.
I own both an 01 WS6 and an 03 Cobra and stock for stock they're pretty close. The cobra should have won, but it can be a drivers race. My WS6 dynoed 327 bone stock and my Cobra dynoed 370. Now with a 3500 stall and drag radials I was pulling better times than my stock Cobra. I ran a best of 12.6 with only a stall and a best of 12.9 with my Cobra. So stop arguing and lets all get along.
@redefinedz28 that true stop bitching. but ia that 370 to the crank or to the wheels? because the 03 cobras put down 420bhp. just wondering not calling bs. also you should get better times out of the cobra with better tires. oh yea and drop the irs. lol
My 2 cents on this is ( the record, i am a chevy guy), 1.There is always someone faster than you. 2 I would love to see a video of an LT1 Fbody beating a terminator. 3.Terminators do lay down about 380-390 rwhp stock. My camaro weighs 115 pounds more than my neighbors 04 Cobra and even though i have beat him everytime weve raced, it wasnt by much and my car dynoed at 391 rwhp when it was showroom stock. The truth is that they are as good as advertised whether people choose to accept it or not
First of all i know you're pissed right now because our arguement is about cars, and you strayed away from that knowing that im right and you have no arguement. And second of all to "ronbunch1" there has been NUMEROUS cobras to make 380-390RWHP STOCK, 320-340 is a joke and you are seriously ill informed to think that is even close to what a cobra makes. You can all argue for your chevy and blah blah blah, the fact still remains that i own a 2001 ws6 trans am (yeah its quick)....
@ronbunch1 Funny my car has 363rwhp and WILL DRAG you down the 1320 kid.. it would be HILARIOUS to see what you actually drive. Acting like i dd my fox lmao
@black87gt IT WOULD BE FUNNY TO SEE WHAT I DRIVE?? YOU CAN SEE WHAT I DRIVE ON THE GMHIGHTECHPERFORMANCE WEBSITE THEIR BLACKSTANG!!363HP?/ NOT 2 BAD,,BUT I GOT YA COVERED!!LOL HAHAHA
Its funny you're just like every other chevy fanboy on youtube that knows NOTHING, as far as i recall the 99 and 01 Cobras were just as bit as fast as the 99-02 ws6 and SS fbodies, so PLEASE before you decide to defend your chevys make sure you're even making a valid arguement before making yourself look stupid. Failed atempt at talking shit on youtube award goes to... YOU!
@black87gt your a retard google motor trnd ss vs svt cora its an official test>.hope ya like what ya see!! ls1's make 310-325 rwhp all day stock nearly same as terminators rwhp you know nothing
@ronbunch1 You sir are prolly the DUMBEST mother fucker on youtube, quit spewing your garbage, obviously if you think 310fwhp is the same as rwhp you're dumb as hell, and to think even 325rwhp is even CLOSE to what a termy makes you're sadly mistaken, PLEASE do all of us a favor and learn something before you speak because obviously you know NOTHING on this topic. Cobras > Fbodies stock for stock and mod for mod, and that will NEVER change.
@black87gt DUDES ITS PATHETIC YOU WOULD BRAG OVER ANY SUPERCHARGED CAR BEATING A N/A CAR BUT THATS WHAT YOU TINY MOTORED FAGS HAVE COME TOO..FUNNY THE INTERNET IS FOOL OF LT1'S AND LS1'S BEATING TERMINATOR'S!!!281 HAHA MY WIFE HAS A 4.0 EXPLORER ALMOST A 4.6 YOU PROB THINK THATS FAST TOO DONT YA???
@black87gt You are a fucking blabbering retard dude it makes 390 stock NOW WHAT THE FUCK!!!DOES IT NOT LOSE HORSEPOWER DUE TO PARRASITIC LOSS(JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER FUCKING CAR??)STOCK TERMINATOR MAKES 320-340 RWHP STOCK!!CHECK FUCKING FORD'S OWN RECORDS YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH
@black87gt you dumbass.....i said "look up any old comparison videos of the fbodies and mustangs" not that hard to do! you guys really cant read can you? you're LITERALLY the fifth ford fanboy that ive had to physically point out specific lines of my comments to. send the money my way and ill gladly buy a seeing-eye dog for you b/c nothing else seems to work. if i have to point shit out for you, then you're not intelligent enough to converse with me in the first place.
true dat! my 97 cobra with straight pipes runs with my brothers 2002 collectors edition ta and all he has is a flowmast on it. Other than that both cars r stock. he only pulls on me half a car length.
An ls1 and 4v 4.6 supercharged make NO WHERE NEAR the same rwhp you moron, wow some people amaze me. I will DRAG that lt1 catfish of yours down the 1320 all day redneck.
you retards an Ls1 makes nearly identical RWHP figures even though the terminator is suprecharged guess thats what happens when you compare a 281 against a 350
Cobra obviously fucked up, NO way in hell a bolt on ws6 keeps up with a bolt on cobra, and i own a ws6. And to say mod-mod and stock-stock fbody>stang.. you sir are a complete moron.. stock-stock, mod-mod Cobra > any fbody ever made.
@black87gt Depends on the year of the Cobra dude. I own a WS6 also. And there's that vid of the 99 Trans Am beating the 03 Cobra if you looked it up on youtube. Like people say, in a perfect world the Cobra should always win. But they have a disadvantage with their IRS.
@black87gt lol yea no shit a stock SUPERCHARGED car is faster than a N/A car. thats stang boys' defense in every argument! its always Cobra this and Cobra that. well shit if my ws6 had a forged motor and was supercharged itd be just as badass if not more so b/c if you payed attention in the past, the n/a cobras couldnt touch the SS and WS6 in the 1/4 or the road course. look up any old comparison vids of those cars.
z06 ls6 vs 01-02 ls1 both ls6 but different f body comes with ls6 intake but diffrent part number from z06 ls6 intake. f body comes with 241 casting ls6 heads as the z06 it comes with 243 casting ls6 heads diffrence is the z06 heads are mil to 64cc to raise compression to 10:5:1 with sodium filled valves and flow 10 to 7 on the intake side to the exhaust side of the heads better than 241 heads but called ls6 because similar design
@ls6camaro00 actually the 241 is the casting number for normal LS1 heads. my '01 ws6 has the 241 heads but has the LS6 intake. you can find 241 heads on the older fbodies too like the '98 camaro.
@deadeyedickification yeah i know they are ls1 heads (stock but only 01-02) but its a ls6 style head thats why they call the camaro ls6 even with same style intake. 98 came with 806 heads and 99-00 came with 853 heads than 01-02 camaro 241 heads even till 04 vette but z06 has 243 heads. ls1 all the way!!
@ls6camaro00 ah ok actually didnt know that. learn something new everyday. ive only had my ws6 for alittle over a year so im still some what of a green horn with the details.
@deadeyedickification Its a good car you bought and i just got lucky like my brother that bought a 2002 ss for 4500 but need the tranny fix and a clutch. So he got lucky too. The mods on old setup was 241 heads p&p 224/230cam 581/592 ls6 intake ported tb longtubes dual exhaust 25%crank pulley spec 3 clutch and built tranny. Doing a new 408 with 150 shot but funds are getting tight because i want to buy an 03 cobra than finish the ss
03 cobra Lol yes easy power gains to get about 450rwhp but after that its starts costing money thats what people dont understand that never owned both cars. Its cheaper to make a ls1 faster than a 03 cobra.
@ls6camaro00 its about time someone other me realized that! if a guy buys an '03-'04 Cobra, itll set him back ~ 22K. if he buys an SS/WS6, about 12K. put the 10K he saved from buying a Cobra into an fbody, and you have a 10 sec car lol. fuck buying a Cobra. GM makes the best bang-for-your-buck sports cars on the planet. hence the Z06 and ZR1 vettes.
@deadeyedickification i had a pair of 241 heads i mil to 64 cc put 2.0 valves and a port job with a 224/230 cam and bolt ons than reach 430rwhp with not spending alot of money. bought 2000 ss camaro for 8300 with 59,000 miles.
@ls6camaro00 and wow im amazed that you found that car with so little mile for so little $. mine had 97K when i bought it and i gave $9800 for it. tax and title ended up being 10,300 all said and done. but even though it has high miles, it drives like a new one. a few minor things like the A/C compressor will have to be replaced but parts are so cheap it doesnt bother me. plus im getting a good deal on some forged internals soon so its cool. so what exactly is done to yours?
clearly the guy in the cobra let off the throttle
LJMKR8 1 month ago
No way a stock mach 1 ran 12secs
tothemax24757 2 months ago
WTF was the driver a 15 yr old?
DJMAMM 4 months ago
Justin Beaber driving the trans am...
shoDOHC 4 months ago
i dont always street race but when i do i prefer a Trans Am, keep a heavy foot my friends.
Skidz1818 5 months ago 5
Heha everyone has so much hate. The only way you get better is if you keep racing people. Your going to lose and your going to win that is a fact. If it is any other way then you really are just racing people you know your going to beat. I like both cars and maybe next time they race the cobra driver will do better. And primus3601 sounding full of shit with that post lol. We all know Cobra's are amazing machines lol. Real enthusiasts give respect to their rivals.
StatusElite01 5 months ago 4
@StatusElite01 Amen brother
slipknotmetallica7 2 months ago
just proves Ford makes nothing but shit
primus3601 5 months ago
@primus3601 just provest that you a complete fag and cant see that the pontiac is modded as hell. a stock cobra produces 390 hp 390fttq thats more than the trans am by 50hp so either the cobra had a bad driver or the trans am was more than just bolt ons
SuperSnake330CID 5 months ago
@SuperSnake330CID stock cobra puts down at least 70 more rwhp
IDontHateOnCars 5 days ago
@IDontHateOnCars something like that though the LS engines are verry Underrated stock they say 310 or 325 but more like 335
SuperSnake330CID 5 days ago
@SuperSnake330CID Both of them were. It was more like 350hp for the 325 rating, and 335 for there 305 rating.
IDontHateOnCars 4 days ago
my goodness...that cobra needs a better driver
GuyWithMustang428 5 months ago
i am soooo fucking sick of seeing these rich little fucks buying gt500s cobras ford gts and not knowing how to fucking drive it. pisses me off. my uncle took his STOCK 2004 mach 1 12.98 with 305hp. yet ppl cant take a car with 500hp or 390hp and outrun something like a ws6 or ss camaro. un fucking real. ive seen STOCK 04 cobras run high 12s and gt500s with a good driver run 11.90s. i was at the track not too long ago some guy took his 05 mustang 16.30s!!!! wtf? prolly same guy in this video.
iRLadyKi113r 6 months ago
this reminded me of the hanger "SO LONG gay boys ;D"
sill cum stain couldnt keep up lolol
Symbiote03 6 months ago
thats not even a race that cobra spun like a bitch
dab51hockey 6 months ago 2
Now this is a driver error. Listen to thefucker shift every 2 seconds.
greendayrules11 6 months ago
I like the trans am, but i love the sound of the mustangs even more.
halflife103 6 months ago
im so lucky i have a trans am :)
endiablado1 6 months ago
LOL that Cobra got DEMOLISHED lol Ford sucks GM rules!!!!
1000chrismc 6 months ago
Go, Trans Am!
Dinosorable 7 months ago
objects in mirror are losing
nickrod666 7 months ago 2
@nickrod666 Too funny
mrhighnote 6 months ago
Both of you are twats. Shut the Fuck up...
ssmpatton 7 months ago
Dude..Im killing my driods battery over somthing that will never end in a viable answer as to why you call out smashing mustangs or calling the car gay but still don't see yourself as biased. and still cant find anything on a toyota and gm deal with the 5.7...so this is my final BS whatever statement. later.
AudiS403 7 months ago
haha ...oh man i missed 3rd,,,excuse
theapeman1989 7 months ago
"ws6 trans am bolt ons" my ass...
drewsky121 7 months ago
thunderup86 8 months ago
@thunderup86 just putting it out there that i am a f-body and ford guy. But i i didnt like how you put a 2010 model up. why dont you advertise the 2012 mustang...against 2012 camaro? notice how much of a difference one year makes? its like comparing an 04 mustang terminator to an 02 cobra. its not the same car.
zipo1200 7 months ago
@zipo1200 yeah I got what you are saying. you also have to understand that i give credit to ford for finally grabbing there balls and saying we wont take the crotch shots from GM anymore 40+ years GM has smacked fords best vehicle stock to stock and in 2012 finally made a mustang on purpose that can beat a comparable camaro ss but I am tired of mustang people comparing a blown vehicle to a non blown vehicle I know 8psi is shit but its still a BLOWN motor yanno
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 HAHAHAHA...glad you believe what the internet says..and look up a 2011 mustang. 12.7's all day in the 1/4. Good riddance to that pile of crap 3v that the 2010's had.
AudiS403 7 months ago
I hope you realize that the cobra guy couldnt drive and then let off. 03/04 cobra will drive away from you with your mods :)
04gtstang 8 months ago
@04gtstang I doubt it that blower only pushes 8psi all ford did was slap a shitty blower on a shitty underpowered 4.6 motor so ford does not have to be embarrassed that GM crushes ford every year with there high output 5.7
thunderup86 8 months ago
@thunderup86 You fanbois have a hard time believeing a 4v 4.6 can't lay waste to a bigger engine huh? Underpowered? Yeah the blowers stock sucked but that 4.6 with mahle forged internals will stock support just as much if not more than the LS series engines. you can mod a ls to handle that and more but a STOCK bottom end 03-04 cobra will chew up 700hp all day and keep going. and when was the last time you checked the engines gm is using? 5.7 has LONG been gone. check your facts.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 thats the whole point and you fanboys still dont understang lol #s are #s because there based off facts and the truth of the matter is ford mustang for the past 45+ years has always been known as the nice body cheap muscle car that can be easily modified but ask any realistic track going mustang fan they will tell you that not until recently has the mustang stock to stock motor to motor beaten a camaro non blower by the way it was not the 4.6 that made 03-04 great the IRS made it great
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 And the IRS made the cobra? BWAHAHAHAHA that's one of the first thing drag racers take out..that cast iron 4.6 that was totally different from the all aluminum pieces that came in the previous cobras was exactly what made them badass, that and the complete forged internals that will hold a shitload of power stock. oh and the fact it finally came with a 6-speed. but hey..you know everything so I'll just leave it at that..
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 yup I do no eveything BWAHAHAHA the COBRA is gay still fact is fact FORD needs a blower to be worth anything and BUY the way cadillac has the CTS-V supercharged that has just been rated with more HP then the COBRA well good luck next year but I guess ford people must be tired of hearing that for the last 45 + years BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! FORD 0 GM 45+
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 Wow...your runon sentance was pretty useless. A. Ford utalizes a blower to make the same power as a bigger v-8. B. cadillac CTS-V is the detuned Zr1 motor and still costs a hefty 90k. Wow...550hp for 90k. not impressed. and c.unlike your obama owned motors the New mustang GT is handing your little 6.2L camaro its ass in the 1/4 mile, circle track and every other area you want to goto. oh yeah..and it's just a lil ol' 5.0 n/a motor. please sit down and quit licking windows.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@thunderup86 Wow...I watched your Ford vs Chevy comparo video..and I must say..not only are you a closet case chevy lover trying to play that you like both..but you are a idiot. A. your statement "does corvette make a supercharged car? why yes they do...its a ZR1" Well chevy makes that car but...not to be the picky asshole here..you say chevy has alway beaten ford apples to apples huh? then why are you comparing a Mustang GT to a camaro SS? that would be a 03-04 cobras territory.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 Im tired of mustang fans comparing a cobra to a camaro ss ford produces what 4-5 different mustangs LMAO how many does chevy make UMMMMMM 2 LMAO of course mustang fans will pick the one that beats the camaro ss and latch lol compare v6 to v6, compare v8 to v8, compare v8s to v8s. But comparing a supercharged V8 to a naturally aspirated all motor vehicle is just dumb ass shit. its not GM's fault they did not put a blower on the camaro ss in the early 2000's would have smashed the cobra
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 Dumb how? Like compareing a NA 350 to a NA 281? you need to pick your battle...and is LMAO you favorite word? Oh and Im not dissect...dissect..hahahaa your comments. but anyone who sees another person start by calling another car gay..or throwing lame ass insults at it as you do will be looked at as he is...a complete poser that is biased..its cool dude..have a good one..LMAO LMAO LMAO!
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 poser? buddy my car pushes 380hp and 350tq with stock heads a poser I am not. and every comment I have laid down to somebody else you have commented back on which is a great case of trolling which you my ignorant friend HAVE been dissecting my comments finding the right moment to strike well like a troll would do . man you have a good one as well.
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 Ummm what the hell does your friends car have to do with you? I have fast cars of my own on streetfire . net if you want to look up 2008gixxer1k feel free. I called you a poser because you sir are acting as a person that "isnt biased" but one of your first comments is the mustang was gay and other little tidbits you like to throw down. and everything I look up on the toyota relation to the 5.7L gm platform has been debunked everywere by everyone...INCLUDING TOYOTA! Sho me proof.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 HUH? I have a video of my car on here lol but anyways to be a POSER I have to be posing on something like to copy another with no intent of originality I mean if your going to call me somethin at least make it sound like you know what your talking about. so how am i posing again? I would just like to know I dont pose. I have a 383 stroker with dual plane air gap intake 750cfm holley carb lunati 268/280 duarion voodoo cam PRO BUILD 700r4 2800 stall with a BUILT 3.73 rear end
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 Ok...I can do engines...this is gonna rock.. What's your LSA on that cam? and how did you degree it? and with that 383 I'm assuming you built..which pushrod is longer..the intake or exhaust? and what crank did you use after you bored the 350 .030 over?...rods? pistons? trust me...your not going to loose me in terminology with this..so have at it..and dont look it up on the internet either
AudiS403 7 months ago
@thunderup86 Rocker arm ratio?...how about CC volume in the head itself? did you hone the cylinders? what type of rings did you use? timing set - chain? double roller? full gear? how about lower end...what type of bearings? did you platigauge the crank to rods or do you have the $400 crank dial indicator?
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 so i was right about dissecting lol but anyways rocker arm 1.5 3/8 195cc 65cc chamber rings i dont know they came complete the timing chain is a lunati double roller I had all my components and timing done with the motor heads and cam done by ABEL racing in oklahoma city not sure about the bearings the crank is a eagle 4340 crank it was originally a 5.7 out of a 400 block but went with something stronger instead abel told me when heads get put on i should see 440-460 hp and about 470t
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 I dont think you realize Im just pointing out the fact you Will down the mustang...as you just said you will be able to smash the boss...but no mention of a GM product like a camaro that is slower than a Base 5.0 GT. I could honestly care if your car exhists...just the fact you are a poser in the fact you desciminate on the mustangs by downing them by calling them gay or saying you will smash it but your not biased...thats what i dont get.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 stop saying poser im not putting you down or nothing but the word your looking for a hypocrite not poser. but what im trying to say is look how long it took for them to actually beat a camaro ss with a actual comparable vehicle I mean non-blown yanno thats all im saying is just why they took so long thats all I have owned 3 muscle cars all of them GM I have a buddy that does own a cobra and when we talk we both are non biased we like different things about each others ride yanno
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 Funny part is your video of your car running has music over it..can't hear the motor. wierd..a cam of the spec you laid out would have a noticeable idle...guessing thats why we can't hear it. and I have several cars..gm and ford..so I hate equally on dickheads like you that like to play pretend while real drivers that build there cars and dont just buy "prebuilt" supposed 383's actually know what they have and race it. keep changing the subject.
AudiS403 7 months ago
ohh and by the way the word your looking for is hypocrite not poser LMAO LMAO im saying one thing they doing another I think I am correct HMMMMM.. buddy this is my car my title and my hard work just like I can say about your bike so im guessing you dont even own a car but again it really does not matter once I get my trickflow heads put on I will beable to smash even the new boss mustang all for a total of 7k spent lol
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 IF your KING racing ass ever comes up here I and a few of my friends will be more than willing to kick the shit ouf of your car...and one of them happens to be a 383 Iroc that runs like a son of a bitch but the guy built it and knows what he's talking about..as for my bike...feel free to take that in a race for your trickflow engine that has no soundclip besides music
AudiS403 7 months ago
@thunderup86 You have helped me so much I cant begin to thank you. I will now make sure my 16 month old son is raised like I was to love domestic vehicles reguarless of make..but to realize when jerkoffs like you say they have this or that but love all cars the same and then start bashing one but still saying you love both the same to punch you right in your cocksucker like you deserve.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 lol my cocksucker? i think your funny. not being sarcastic anybody that can say punch you in your cocksucker and keep a straight face is a tight ass i didnt want to go with a 2800 stall i wanted to go with a 2500 but I am a member of thirdgen.org I have guys help me all the time on car stuff alot of things i say have already been talked about buy 1000's of actual car guys who have better things to do then sit on youtube like us and fight lol
thunderup86 7 months ago
by the way I have 3 girls 3 year old twins and a 11 month old and all of them will be driving everything besides a camaro firebird or mustang lol
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 And you should be proud of building a car that can beat a 40k boss mustang...but you didnt mention the camaro..but not to be biased here but that boss will kick your ass all over a road course. I bet this will burn your ass...for friends cars...I have a friend with a 98 civic hatch that N/A with a worked over 2.3L (spent around 3k on the motor out of a totaled car and mods to it runs 10.9's. so he has around 6500 into his car..lets see ya touch 10.9's with that car of yours.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@thunderup86 Your one of those guys that thinks your shit doesnt stink and your never wrong. that's what I was out to prove..and while you dodge...no pun intended questions and just go onto somthing like how fast your friends car is..not one you own..but a friends i just find you as a person funny trying to call other people in your videos out. I have friends with 6 second dragsters too bud...I on the otherhand dont use them for references to my automotive knowledge.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@thunderup86 And for your KING of dragracing comment...I assure you with traveling around with my friends from strip to strip and state to state...your state isnt king. I hate to say it but texas has some of the fastest cars we have ever seen. the 10.5 outlaw class down there is absolutly nuts. and while BBC and SBC are very common on the strip explain to me why almost every single pro team uses the hemis? And I really would like proof on your toyota 350.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@thunderup86 Because not to lose you here..but the 5.7L Iforce not only has a completely different deck hieght,oil galley config,lower splayed main caps,different journal sizes for the crank, and timing cover that physically cannot bolt up to the way the GM350 was. but the fact one of the few trades toyota and GM did was when GM used a toyota 1.8L in the Prism. so I would love a link to a official site that shows this.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@thunderup86 and while the Z28 was still quicker in most cases it wasnt by as much as comparing a SS camaro to a Mustang GT. Keep up your biased opinions. I really don't care either way..just love getting on here talking to people like you about really anything you say your not biased on when in fact that's exactly what you are. And I love how you almost bitch about the mustangs coming stock with a supercharger then quit to retort with the ZR1 comment. its 130k car..it better have somthing!
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 yeah but I never said a ZR1 was ever a stock vehicle like I said when it is not all MOTOR it truly is a non stock in my eyes. I am truly not biased im a realist I go off of factory #s and 3rd party figures I only sound biased because GM vs FORD stock has just been a normal thing for so many years and with FORD not grabbing there balls till recently it seriously looks like GM threw them a cookie then ripped it from them lol when just now releasing the CTS-V 563hp caddy
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 And what in the hell are you compareing the caddi too? Ford makes nothing that even is in the same production niche! and to say your not biased is a complete joke. You may only be on here saying your stating facts but its your little comments you try and sneak in that prove otherwise in a very suttle light. like your little cookie comment or your keeping score 45-0...please dude. oh yeah in the early 90's the fox bodies actually posted slightly quicker times than the first IROCs too
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 I am comparing the CTS-V 2011-2012 supercharged vs 2011-2012 ford GT500 sollie on power alone not class were the fuck are you at were talking about power Im not talking about anything else LMAO a CTS-V is a damn camaro ss with a supercharger 6.2 blown and if people keep writing me about mustangs and all Im aloud to write back is about chevy im going to sound biased. makes sense especially people like you that blow up ever comment and dissect everything I say. you= troll LMAO
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 And the ZR1 is a completely stock vehicle. how you see that as modified is beyond me. but your probably just pissed the new 5.0 GT mustang is taking down the camaro at the dragstip and roadcourse with a smaller engine and N/A also now. I don't know were you get your facts on your videos that are hillarious to watch because you can tell your only going off knowledge you get off a webpage and dont have for yourself. but anyway, as i said before keep up the tunnel vision.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 but thats all that matters facts and #s are what they are you cant argue facts and #s jackass lol there are so many engine variables it would be impossible to say who was better besides comparing stock to stock LMAO I BELIEVE ANY CAR THAT IS NOT ALL MOTOR AND NOT ALL NATURALLY ASPIRATED EVEN IF IT COMES OFF THE ASSEMBLY LINE IS NOT A STOCK VEHICLE I CONSIDER THAT FACTORY MODIFIED MAKES GREAT SENSE STOP TROLLING ME! LMAO
thunderup86 7 months ago
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@thunderup86 "yup I do no eveything BWAHAHAHA the COBRA is gay still fact is fact FORD needs a blower to be worth anything and BUY the way cadillac has the CTS-V supercharged that has just been rated with more HP then the COBRA well good luck next year but I guess ford people must be tired of hearing that for the last 45 + years BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! FORD 0 GM 45+" This is your exact qoute...and your not biased? BWAHAHAHAHA. you need to goto debate class bud.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 my facts are fine they still were using then 5 years ago in the GTO then GM sold the blueprint to TOYOTA which they use the blueprint in there trucks slighty modified of course but a GM blueprint non the less mustang is ok but only because they are easy to work on and it does not take much to modify to make them fast but what MUSTANG fans dont get is stock to stock it just has not cut the mustard why do you think most drag car guys engine of choice is either a SBC OR BBC.
thunderup86 7 months ago
@thunderup86 Funny...last time I checked the most popular motor at the track i goto is the Hemi...392 or 426...but hey you seem to know everything...especially like them selling the 350 to toyota...HAHAHAHAHA!...you realize that engine was developed from the ground up by toyota right? why do you think they had the recalls on them when they first came out about the camshaft issues? because they rushed the development to get it out before sept for the next year cycle.
AudiS403 7 months ago
@AudiS403 thats funny last time I checked at my track in oklahoma city which is mid west where racing is KING and the most popular cars run 454bbc or 427bbc. I sold GM vehicles for 5 years toyota to this day has 15% of there parts are made by GM including the blueprint motor of GM's 5.7 toyota utilized the already proven 5.7 motor GM ran forever and just hands down made it there own by making it better.
thunderup86 7 months ago
@AudiS403 I also want to comment on the early 90's as well yes I liked the foxbody's much more then I liked the camaro or firebird hell I did own a 7 GTA and still like the foxbody more but only because FORD got it right put a good 5.0 motor 302 in a super light vehicle and also decided to make the rear gears 3.73 which was available for the GM but super rare and only available for manual transmissions but I can say as argument put the 5.7 TPI in the mustang and it would be even faster.
thunderup86 7 months ago
@AudiS403 and the fact of the early 90"s is the camaro and firebirds well equipped weighed a little more then 3400 pounds yanno and how much did the foxbody weigh? im guessing 2900-3100 My favorite mustangs were the foxbody's but there is a saying in racing. nothing can replace displacement why do you think they utilized a supercharger to match up with bigger V8 why didnt they just make a larger displacement motor? because they are a cheaper muscle car easily modifiable easy to work on.
thunderup86 7 months ago
Just for the dumb ass with the crappy 2 valve comment the new ls3 heads r flowing 365 cfm on the intake WTF r the ford heads flowing... Nothing close to that... And just so u no the new 5.0 is good but the way the r made it is like having a cam from the factory so they will not make no big ganes from a cam but take the ls3 and put a cam in it and turn it 7000 rpm and watch the fuck out. And on a side note the auto camaro is a l99 the six speed is a ls3 big diff the ls3 makes about 385 to the wh
Kodysgirl92 8 months ago
@Kodysgirl92 Umm comp cams claims 43 rwhp with their Stage 1 cams for the 2011 mustang 5.0 with proper tuning.
sniffmapoopi 8 months ago
@sniffmapoopi 5.0 you can see an increase of 63+hp with just boss 302 manifold, 93 oct and intake tune from bama @ American Muscle
zipo1200 7 months ago
@Kodysgirl92 yeah i looked up the rpm range on those fords and the say max 6000 rpm on the track you might not need more then that but thats still shitty lol
thunderup86 8 months ago
@Kodysgirl92 your forgetting timing adjustment. power and torque gains from factory are made for "ideal" driving conditions. you forget to say with VVCT you can sustain proper torque load with with an endless hp band to peak 7500rpm. this technology alone cannot be matched with an ls3 motor due to its limitations on relying on one style valve timing. LS gains are better at higher rpm and most prefer an aggressive intake cam... but what if the guy beside you is putting down 60ft/tq and
zipo1200 7 months ago
@Kodysgirl92 hitting and endless supply of intake cfm throught the powerband... your fucked from the start. where as a 2v mustang can get eaten up due to its lack of vvt and poor cfm on both ends.. There is much more to talk about than. Hey! my heads flow better than yours. so i am better than you. i hope you dont apply this to anything. because it takes years to understand proper lobe adjustment to your specific needs and to what application. Both are very good! but they are VERY different
zipo1200 7 months ago
bolt on? ...yeah Supercharger
BLamirande 8 months ago
big birds eats snakes xD food chain applies
00cel 9 months ago 14
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PIRANA131313 7 months ago
Bolt ons, huh? You know, something like a 200 shot of nitrous is not really considered a bolt on, and that's about what it would take to pull that Cobra the way it did. I have a feeling the description here is not 100% truthful.
starscream4icecream 9 months ago
@starscream4icecream Im with you on this one, im not saying I havent seen T/As and Camaros out there beat a Cobra before, but I've never seen one beat a Cobra by this much with just bolt ons..
GOMEZ99Christian 9 months ago
@GOMEZ99Christian Pretty sure by the way the T/A pulled in the beginning that he had 4.10's...he pulled HARD on that Cobra in the beginning. If it was a 50MPH roll, the Cobra would have won, lower gears and more top end HP.
Quatermain98526 9 months ago
@Quatermain98526 yeah stock cobra has 3.55 gears, but do you know what this guy in the WS6's mods are?
GOMEZ99Christian 9 months ago
@GOMEZ99Christian There is another video in the related video's section, "00 WS6 vs 04 Cobra" with 9,655 views. In that vid it says he has 4.10 gears, looks like the same cars here. 4.10 gears would explain how he pulled on the Cobra so hard in the beginning.
Quatermain98526 9 months ago
dear jesus my buddy would love to see that im gonna refer it to him damn nice car man representing the american muscle and not these bs honda drivers
madguy1010 9 months ago
the right bolt ons on the TA and wrong ones on the Cobra?
ztwntyn8 9 months ago
About time it shows the real performance of a WS6
pbguy357 9 months ago
"You do the horn this time," "Fuck that" "fuck that!" lmao
shane10156r 10 months ago 10
"Fuck that!"
TorqueMachine 10 months ago
Wtf?
The person driving the cobra sucks
alberto1690 11 months ago
@alberto1690 and the kid driving the trans is fat as balls lmao
FlawlessVizionz08 9 months ago
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shane10156r 1 year ago
The new 6.2's in the Camaros have so much drivetrain loss. 426 to the motor and 333 to the wheels for an auto? What the hell... They shouldnt even rate them to the motor if its gonna be that different. Thats like 25% drivetrain loss. Horrible..
w3bb3r04 1 year ago
@w3bb3r04 333 is pretty rad to the wheels for an auto imo
ztwntyn8 9 months ago
Maybe if the cobra launched better this race would of been more interesting.
TheHydrocortisone 1 year ago
WS6's r 5.7 by the way
JoSu3ZR1 1 year ago
who yelled 3? there retarded....
reverseoreo08 1 year ago
hes like 4 wtf??????
MoUnTiAnDeW4life 1 year ago
Cobra needs a driver mod in the WORST way
83Dieselranger 1 year ago
damn
sexysexy7 1 year ago
let me get a hold of dat cobra ill show u a real driver
TEMS03COBRA 1 year ago
@TEMS03COBRA I think the problem is the car not the driver. just look at the specs.
ghettopettingzoo 1 year ago
@ghettopettingzoo idk bro its a termi come on now
TEMS03COBRA 1 year ago
@TEMS03COBRA Ok so we could see the cobra lose with a supposed better driver?
Ensilvanation 1 year ago
guy in the cobra dosnt know how to shift
MrAj4778 1 year ago
@MrAj4778 very true
TEMS03COBRA 1 year ago
socobras are underrated but they still get killed by a stock trans am either way and gm dont need power adders either.....interesting lol
rynohalo 1 year ago
@rynohalo no they dont need power adders but they do need significantly higher displacement.
03silversvtcobra 1 year ago
@03silversvtcobra aww... are you mad that your fords 8 cylinders aren't as good as chevy's 8 cylinders? You poor thing...
HellenKeller9 1 year ago
@HellenKeller9 no im just making a point that ford doesn't need nearly 6 litres of displacement to make power. i.e. the new 5.0...beats the shit out of the new camaro ss
03silversvtcobra 1 year ago
@03silversvtcobra thats because the new camaro's weight almost 4000 pounds!
TAGA1299 1 year ago
@TAGA1299 im comparing motor to motor not chassis. 6.2L only 426hp compared to fords 5.0 with 412hp.
03silversvtcobra 1 year ago
@03silversvtcobra yeah ford is making very good power for the 5.0....and is lighter and all that good stuff. but the 6.2 does have more potential than the coyote.
blackstang2003 1 year ago
@blackstang2003 doubtful the 6.2 is nice dont get me wrong, it does have the displacement, it just has crappy 2 valve heads =P
igjoe2007 1 year ago
You didn't do right off the start, that said........ It wouldn't have mattered ;P
criefus 1 year ago
Ummm... that's not right....
10072018 1 year ago
@10072018 damn rite its not rite
TEMS03COBRA 1 year ago
cobra got owned...shudda got a trans am
prozack678 1 year ago
trans am jumped the start, and from the sounds of it, the cobra had traction issues. both nice cars though!
NissanTy 1 year ago
If I had a Trans Am I'd engine swap for a C6 Corvette Engine
WretchedDrake 1 year ago
fuck WS6 AWD pice of shit
flexedMUSTANG 1 year ago
@flexedMUSTANG WS6 is AWD? Wow I can't believe my car is AWD! :) COOOOLL!!!!!!
recniabsal 1 year ago
@flexedMUSTANG lol at you.retard.
Snortemup 1 year ago
@flexedMUSTANG Lmfao. of course its a shitstaing fan.
retanimiceD 1 year ago
@flexedMUSTANG lol
TheLS1GTO 1 year ago
hahaha cobra left in the dust, what dynoqueens
BStowers023 1 year ago
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I own both an 01 WS6 and an 03 Cobra and stock for stock they're pretty close. The cobra should have won, but it can be a drivers race. My WS6 dynoed 327 bone stock and my Cobra dynoed 370. Now with a 3500 stall and drag radials I was pulling better times than my stock Cobra. I ran a best of 12.6 with only a stall and a best of 12.9 with my Cobra. So stop arguing and lets all get along.
redefinedz28 1 year ago
I own both an 01 WS6 and an 03 Cobra and stock for stock they're pretty close. The cobra should have won, but it can be a drivers race. My WS6 dynoed 327 bone stock and my Cobra dynoed 370. Now with a 3500 stall and drag radials I was pulling better times than my stock Cobra. I ran a best of 12.6 with only a stall and a best of 12.9 with my Cobra. So stop arguing and lets all get along.
redefinedz28 1 year ago
@redefinedz28 that true stop bitching. but ia that 370 to the crank or to the wheels? because the 03 cobras put down 420bhp. just wondering not calling bs. also you should get better times out of the cobra with better tires. oh yea and drop the irs. lol
TheBopop 1 year ago
My 2 cents on this is ( the record, i am a chevy guy), 1.There is always someone faster than you. 2 I would love to see a video of an LT1 Fbody beating a terminator. 3.Terminators do lay down about 380-390 rwhp stock. My camaro weighs 115 pounds more than my neighbors 04 Cobra and even though i have beat him everytime weve raced, it wasnt by much and my car dynoed at 391 rwhp when it was showroom stock. The truth is that they are as good as advertised whether people choose to accept it or not
sixty9fordkiller 1 year ago
BUT i would trade it in a HEARTBEAT for an 03-04 cobra. I even charish my 5.0 over the ws6.
black87gt 1 year ago
First of all i know you're pissed right now because our arguement is about cars, and you strayed away from that knowing that im right and you have no arguement. And second of all to "ronbunch1" there has been NUMEROUS cobras to make 380-390RWHP STOCK, 320-340 is a joke and you are seriously ill informed to think that is even close to what a cobra makes. You can all argue for your chevy and blah blah blah, the fact still remains that i own a 2001 ws6 trans am (yeah its quick)....
black87gt 1 year ago
funny my tiny 5.0 drags you, enough said.
black87gt 1 year ago
@black87gt it drags me??when?lol
ronbunch1 1 year ago
YOU WATCHED THIS VIDEO RIGHT?? YOUR PRIZE TERMINATOR GETS FUCKED UP!! AND ITS NOT A SURPRISE TO ME CONSIDERING IT HAS A V6 SIZED V8!..HAHAHAHA
ronbunch1 1 year ago
@ronbunch1 Funny my car has 363rwhp and WILL DRAG you down the 1320 kid.. it would be HILARIOUS to see what you actually drive. Acting like i dd my fox lmao
black87gt 1 year ago
@black87gt IT WOULD BE FUNNY TO SEE WHAT I DRIVE?? YOU CAN SEE WHAT I DRIVE ON THE GMHIGHTECHPERFORMANCE WEBSITE THEIR BLACKSTANG!!363HP?/ NOT 2 BAD,,BUT I GOT YA COVERED!!LOL HAHAHA
ronbunch1 1 year ago
@black87gt Everyone knows it takes a built(Heads,cam,intake,TB,exhaust,gear) 5.0 To make the power of stock LT1/LS1 cars
ronbunch1 1 year ago
@ronbunch1 Maybe in rwhp youve got me covered, but i will DRAG you in the 1320. Willing to bet LARGE sums of money on that.
black87gt 1 year ago
@black87gt ill race bout anything dude..sounds like your calming down..ready to call a truce
ronbunch1 1 year ago
Its funny you're just like every other chevy fanboy on youtube that knows NOTHING, as far as i recall the 99 and 01 Cobras were just as bit as fast as the 99-02 ws6 and SS fbodies, so PLEASE before you decide to defend your chevys make sure you're even making a valid arguement before making yourself look stupid. Failed atempt at talking shit on youtube award goes to... YOU!
black87gt 1 year ago
@black87gt your a retard google motor trnd ss vs svt cora its an official test>.hope ya like what ya see!! ls1's make 310-325 rwhp all day stock nearly same as terminators rwhp you know nothing
ronbunch1 1 year ago
@ronbunch1 You sir are prolly the DUMBEST mother fucker on youtube, quit spewing your garbage, obviously if you think 310fwhp is the same as rwhp you're dumb as hell, and to think even 325rwhp is even CLOSE to what a termy makes you're sadly mistaken, PLEASE do all of us a favor and learn something before you speak because obviously you know NOTHING on this topic. Cobras > Fbodies stock for stock and mod for mod, and that will NEVER change.
black87gt 1 year ago
@black87gt HEY 87 MUSTANG IS THAT WHAT YOU HAVE A 87??WELL IT FUCKING SUCKED!!DO YOU THINK THAT 160-170 RWHP(IF YOUR LUCKY)IS FAST??
ronbunch1 1 year ago
@black87gt DUDES ITS PATHETIC YOU WOULD BRAG OVER ANY SUPERCHARGED CAR BEATING A N/A CAR BUT THATS WHAT YOU TINY MOTORED FAGS HAVE COME TOO..FUNNY THE INTERNET IS FOOL OF LT1'S AND LS1'S BEATING TERMINATOR'S!!!281 HAHA MY WIFE HAS A 4.0 EXPLORER ALMOST A 4.6 YOU PROB THINK THATS FAST TOO DONT YA???
ronbunch1 1 year ago
@black87gt You are a fucking blabbering retard dude it makes 390 stock NOW WHAT THE FUCK!!!DOES IT NOT LOSE HORSEPOWER DUE TO PARRASITIC LOSS(JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER FUCKING CAR??)STOCK TERMINATOR MAKES 320-340 RWHP STOCK!!CHECK FUCKING FORD'S OWN RECORDS YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH
ronbunch1 1 year ago
@black87gt you dumbass.....i said "look up any old comparison videos of the fbodies and mustangs" not that hard to do! you guys really cant read can you? you're LITERALLY the fifth ford fanboy that ive had to physically point out specific lines of my comments to. send the money my way and ill gladly buy a seeing-eye dog for you b/c nothing else seems to work. if i have to point shit out for you, then you're not intelligent enough to converse with me in the first place.
deadeyedickification 1 year ago
true dat! my 97 cobra with straight pipes runs with my brothers 2002 collectors edition ta and all he has is a flowmast on it. Other than that both cars r stock. he only pulls on me half a car length.
ljglass2010 1 year ago
@black87gt
hahaha ur funny because i dont recall the 99 to 01 cobras even being close to a 99 to 02 fbody.!!!
MultiLs1 1 year ago
@MultiLs1 Thats because they never were lol.
larryadam2 1 year ago
An ls1 and 4v 4.6 supercharged make NO WHERE NEAR the same rwhp you moron, wow some people amaze me. I will DRAG that lt1 catfish of yours down the 1320 all day redneck.
black87gt 1 year ago
@black87gt better check again!! with your V6 sized V8!! do you really enjoy having no torque what so ever?? 281...hahahahaha
ronbunch1 1 year ago
@black87gt 87...OH YEA I REMEMBER 215 HP SPEED DENSITY GARBAGE(THATS I SWITCHED TO FBODIES)
ronbunch1 1 year ago
you retards an Ls1 makes nearly identical RWHP figures even though the terminator is suprecharged guess thats what happens when you compare a 281 against a 350
ronbunch1 1 year ago
@ronbunch1 no it doesnt ls1 300 320 terminator 390 400 before mods
vanalove10 1 year ago
@vanalove10 stock LS1's are extremely underated make 310-325 stock rwhp all day!! its a fucking fact!did you just crawl out from under a rock
ronbunch1 1 year ago
Cobra obviously fucked up, NO way in hell a bolt on ws6 keeps up with a bolt on cobra, and i own a ws6. And to say mod-mod and stock-stock fbody>stang.. you sir are a complete moron.. stock-stock, mod-mod Cobra > any fbody ever made.
black87gt 1 year ago
@black87gt Depends on the year of the Cobra dude. I own a WS6 also. And there's that vid of the 99 Trans Am beating the 03 Cobra if you looked it up on youtube. Like people say, in a perfect world the Cobra should always win. But they have a disadvantage with their IRS.
recniabsal 1 year ago
@black87gt my LT1 beats terminators!!!what now?? that shit is pathetic!! 281 hahahaha
ronbunch1 1 year ago
@black87gt lol yea no shit a stock SUPERCHARGED car is faster than a N/A car. thats stang boys' defense in every argument! its always Cobra this and Cobra that. well shit if my ws6 had a forged motor and was supercharged itd be just as badass if not more so b/c if you payed attention in the past, the n/a cobras couldnt touch the SS and WS6 in the 1/4 or the road course. look up any old comparison vids of those cars.
deadeyedickification 1 year ago
Ford Piece of crap lol
Bobspankums 1 year ago
nice race man
Hemispherical345 1 year ago
z06 ls6 vs 01-02 ls1 both ls6 but different f body comes with ls6 intake but diffrent part number from z06 ls6 intake. f body comes with 241 casting ls6 heads as the z06 it comes with 243 casting ls6 heads diffrence is the z06 heads are mil to 64cc to raise compression to 10:5:1 with sodium filled valves and flow 10 to 7 on the intake side to the exhaust side of the heads better than 241 heads but called ls6 because similar design
ls6camaro00 1 year ago
@ls6camaro00 actually the 241 is the casting number for normal LS1 heads. my '01 ws6 has the 241 heads but has the LS6 intake. you can find 241 heads on the older fbodies too like the '98 camaro.
deadeyedickification 1 year ago
@deadeyedickification yeah i know they are ls1 heads (stock but only 01-02) but its a ls6 style head thats why they call the camaro ls6 even with same style intake. 98 came with 806 heads and 99-00 came with 853 heads than 01-02 camaro 241 heads even till 04 vette but z06 has 243 heads. ls1 all the way!!
ls6camaro00 1 year ago
@ls6camaro00 ah ok actually didnt know that. learn something new everyday. ive only had my ws6 for alittle over a year so im still some what of a green horn with the details.
deadeyedickification 1 year ago
@deadeyedickification Its a good car you bought and i just got lucky like my brother that bought a 2002 ss for 4500 but need the tranny fix and a clutch. So he got lucky too. The mods on old setup was 241 heads p&p 224/230cam 581/592 ls6 intake ported tb longtubes dual exhaust 25%crank pulley spec 3 clutch and built tranny. Doing a new 408 with 150 shot but funds are getting tight because i want to buy an 03 cobra than finish the ss
ls6camaro00 1 year ago
03 cobra Lol yes easy power gains to get about 450rwhp but after that its starts costing money thats what people dont understand that never owned both cars. Its cheaper to make a ls1 faster than a 03 cobra.
ls6camaro00 1 year ago
@ls6camaro00 its about time someone other me realized that! if a guy buys an '03-'04 Cobra, itll set him back ~ 22K. if he buys an SS/WS6, about 12K. put the 10K he saved from buying a Cobra into an fbody, and you have a 10 sec car lol. fuck buying a Cobra. GM makes the best bang-for-your-buck sports cars on the planet. hence the Z06 and ZR1 vettes.
deadeyedickification 1 year ago
@deadeyedickification i had a pair of 241 heads i mil to 64 cc put 2.0 valves and a port job with a 224/230 cam and bolt ons than reach 430rwhp with not spending alot of money. bought 2000 ss camaro for 8300 with 59,000 miles.
ls6camaro00 1 year ago
@ls6camaro00 and wow im amazed that you found that car with so little mile for so little $. mine had 97K when i bought it and i gave $9800 for it. tax and title ended up being 10,300 all said and done. but even though it has high miles, it drives like a new one. a few minor things like the A/C compressor will have to be replaced but parts are so cheap it doesnt bother me. plus im getting a good deal on some forged internals soon so its cool. so what exactly is done to yours?
deadeyedickification 1 year ago
"Bolt on WS6"
Yeah, if you call H/C/I "bolt ons" lol.
fengineer08 1 year ago