@rpblcan You can get one for just a few hundred dollars but it won't be as good as the one you see here. The one that I used cost maybe a thousand. I don't remember exact model information or anything like that because it was borrowed for this project. If that cost is too much for you there is always the option of renting from a theatrical supply house depending on how long you need it etc.
@PyroBoydj The price is too much for me. I cant rent a theatrical supply house because i need it in the school. Do you have any other way to build it? or create the effect?
@ahocknul04 The "movers" you're talking about aren't actually intel lights at all. They're regular source 4 elips' with an I-Cue moving mirror and DMX Iris added on. Because of this they lights actually weren't able to move any faster than they were and there was no way to change gobos. If I had better lights (verilight or Mac 250's) I would have done that but given what I had I made the best of it.
@PyroBoydj ah ok, i normally run a rig of 10 mac 250 wash and a lot of par 64. frezz's etc but the lazers were good in this what DMX desk did you use?
@udontknowwhaturdoing The college I did this at was a small technical college. that doesn't have an official theater but the professors know their stuff.. Right now I am going to UW-Stevens Point and they have a very good department. I'm not sure where else has a good theater department. I'd ask around people that do Theater in your area and see what they have to say about schools for Design tech. It is a very competitive field so be prepared to apply a few places to get into one.
just curious, what console, lights, and computer did you use? also just the general set yup of equip would be much appreciated. im looking to get BFA in Theatre Tech and Design as well. Also, where do you go to college?
The Console for the lights was an ETC Express (125/250 I think) The computer was running Cakewalk Pro and using MIDI to interface with the Light Board. The 4 color down wash on stage was done with all 8in Fresnel's (Century I Think) The ACL's are done with 6X9's (either Century or Altman)
The movers are ETC Source4 Ellipsoidals (26 deg. I believe) with added ICue moving mirror, Iris Module and color scroller (I never used the color scrollers) all controlled with DMX from the light board.
The laser was a Green Cyclops laser from Extreme Lasers. Unfortunately it's not DMX so I just had it set for sound active and turned it off with an open dimmer.
I go to school at University of Wisconsin Stevens Point although when I did this I was finishing up a year at a small 2 year college in Wausau WI.
Theater Tech is lots of fun but expect to put lots of work in to it as well. A good program should have you at least try all aspects of theater (costumes, props, sound etc.)
Neither. I used DMX out from the Light board to control the movers. 1 Channel for X axis movement 1 Chanel for Y axis movement and one Channel for Light Intensity. Each pattern that the movers are making consist of between 6 and 30 cues loaded into a SubRoutine and cued off a single SubMaster.
The board DMX out ran 5 pin DMX out to the stage where we had it split so it could go to both the left and right. From there each went to the power supply for the Color Scrollers and that converted it to 4 pin DMX. From their it was just dasey chained from Scroller to ICue to Iris. Each module had it's seperate DMX address specified and then those we patched into faders on the board.
Don't worry about questions It's how this stuff is learned.
ok i think i get it now. all this is new to me considering my hs is pretty cheap and we are still using a strand mx from 1990. so here is how im understanding it.
board 5pin dmx/out (single cable?) -> split at stage to L/R -> power supply -> daisy chained to each with a separate dmx address.
i think where i got confused was i thoughts you were using moving heads instead of a modified ellip's.
also did you have to run a hard line cable to the stage from the booth?
Yup you got it was a single cable. And yes we ran a cable from the booth to the stage. We have it there all the time so all we had to do was patch in to the DMX on stage and call it good. There are options for doing DMX wireless but they are expensive and less reliable than hard cabling. In an environment where we have full control over things like a Theater Hard line is much preferred to Wireless.
Yes I'm using elips' with additions but that in essence turns them into moving mirror lights. One could use the same method to control any moving head ( Martin Mac250) But newer boards like the GrandMA and ETC Congo have options for controlling intelligent lights and pre-loded patterns like circles and waves.
Dude this is amazing. I help out with lighting at my high school, and this is really cool. My favorite part is at 1:12 when that single mover shines through the red. What song is that?? It's really cool too! The ending is amazing!
Thanks for the complements. I started just like you are, Hanging lights and cuing shows in High School. Now I'm half finished getting my BFA in Theater Technology and Design (Light and sound of course) and I'm loving every moment.
The song is "Go" by Andy Hunter from his Exodus Album. It's a fantastic album and I highly recommend you check it out.
Well... Most of the lights were already hung for me so all I had to do was change the Movers from FOH to on stage and drop lines for the ACL's so that saved me lots of time.
I figured that part took about 4 or 5 hours.
Actually cuing the show took maybe 25 hours and then restoring the theater perhaps another 8 so from start to finish maybe 38 hours over about 4 days plus some time here and there tweaking.
Don't feel bad at all. Asking lots of questions is the only reason i was able to do this at all.
And no, except for the Laser these aren't my lights. They belong to the school. The whole system that it being used to run this show including computers, light board, light fixtures and misc. things would cost easily over 40thousand dollars.
If you look at my other video on my channel you can see the lights that I do own. The video is poor quality but at least it gives you an idea.
Well thank you but even a fast search on here will find lots and lots of quality light shows that are above and beyond my ability. That being said it was lots of fun and encourage you to get started in the theater lighting business if you're interested. They aren't all this fun but even then it's totally worth it.
how did you do the smoke effect?
rpblcan 1 year ago
@rpblcan theatrical Hazer.
PyroBoydj 1 year ago
@PyroBoydj price and stuff? cause i want it during my performance
rpblcan 1 year ago
@rpblcan You can get one for just a few hundred dollars but it won't be as good as the one you see here. The one that I used cost maybe a thousand. I don't remember exact model information or anything like that because it was borrowed for this project. If that cost is too much for you there is always the option of renting from a theatrical supply house depending on how long you need it etc.
PyroBoydj 1 year ago
@PyroBoydj The price is too much for me. I cant rent a theatrical supply house because i need it in the school. Do you have any other way to build it? or create the effect?
rpblcan 1 year ago
This was ok no very good, just the movers could have been a tad more faster and maybe some gobos but i liked this
ahocknul04 1 year ago
@ahocknul04 The "movers" you're talking about aren't actually intel lights at all. They're regular source 4 elips' with an I-Cue moving mirror and DMX Iris added on. Because of this they lights actually weren't able to move any faster than they were and there was no way to change gobos. If I had better lights (verilight or Mac 250's) I would have done that but given what I had I made the best of it.
PyroBoydj 1 year ago
@PyroBoydj ah ok, i normally run a rig of 10 mac 250 wash and a lot of par 64. frezz's etc but the lazers were good in this what DMX desk did you use?
ahocknul04 1 year ago
@ahocknul04 Just a plain ETC Express 24/48. No expression server so all the patterns were put in by hand.
PyroBoydj 1 year ago
@PyroBoydj Good effort i'm old school i love to use a strand 520i
ahocknul04 1 year ago
this is one of the best ones i've seen so far. great job.
strawberrycrushlove 1 year ago
what college is this? im trying to get ideas of where to go for this type of stuff.
udontknowwhaturdoing 1 year ago
@udontknowwhaturdoing The college I did this at was a small technical college. that doesn't have an official theater but the professors know their stuff.. Right now I am going to UW-Stevens Point and they have a very good department. I'm not sure where else has a good theater department. I'd ask around people that do Theater in your area and see what they have to say about schools for Design tech. It is a very competitive field so be prepared to apply a few places to get into one.
PyroBoydj 1 year ago
pasoo por este wed.
muy bueno el videoo..
pasate por el mio y agregame como amigo..
suerte..
soiimaxii100 1 year ago
SWEET
mydadcankillurs 2 years ago
THANKS
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
just curious, what console, lights, and computer did you use? also just the general set yup of equip would be much appreciated. im looking to get BFA in Theatre Tech and Design as well. Also, where do you go to college?
mourningmyloss4u 2 years ago
The Console for the lights was an ETC Express (125/250 I think) The computer was running Cakewalk Pro and using MIDI to interface with the Light Board. The 4 color down wash on stage was done with all 8in Fresnel's (Century I Think) The ACL's are done with 6X9's (either Century or Altman)
The movers are ETC Source4 Ellipsoidals (26 deg. I believe) with added ICue moving mirror, Iris Module and color scroller (I never used the color scrollers) all controlled with DMX from the light board.
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
The laser was a Green Cyclops laser from Extreme Lasers. Unfortunately it's not DMX so I just had it set for sound active and turned it off with an open dimmer.
I go to school at University of Wisconsin Stevens Point although when I did this I was finishing up a year at a small 2 year college in Wausau WI.
Theater Tech is lots of fun but expect to put lots of work in to it as well. A good program should have you at least try all aspects of theater (costumes, props, sound etc.)
Oh.. DFTBA :-)
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
Thank's alot for the quick response!
Also did you have moving light control on the board or did you have to use an external program?
mourningmyloss4u 2 years ago 2
Neither. I used DMX out from the Light board to control the movers. 1 Channel for X axis movement 1 Chanel for Y axis movement and one Channel for Light Intensity. Each pattern that the movers are making consist of between 6 and 30 cues loaded into a SubRoutine and cued off a single SubMaster.
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
Ok, last question i promise: How did you get the dmx signal to the light, beside the power chord plugged into the raceway.
neither myself or you will ever to FTBA.
mourningmyloss4u 2 years ago
The board DMX out ran 5 pin DMX out to the stage where we had it split so it could go to both the left and right. From there each went to the power supply for the Color Scrollers and that converted it to 4 pin DMX. From their it was just dasey chained from Scroller to ICue to Iris. Each module had it's seperate DMX address specified and then those we patched into faders on the board.
Don't worry about questions It's how this stuff is learned.
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
ok i think i get it now. all this is new to me considering my hs is pretty cheap and we are still using a strand mx from 1990. so here is how im understanding it.
board 5pin dmx/out (single cable?) -> split at stage to L/R -> power supply -> daisy chained to each with a separate dmx address.
i think where i got confused was i thoughts you were using moving heads instead of a modified ellip's.
also did you have to run a hard line cable to the stage from the booth?
mourningmyloss4u 2 years ago
Yup you got it was a single cable. And yes we ran a cable from the booth to the stage. We have it there all the time so all we had to do was patch in to the DMX on stage and call it good. There are options for doing DMX wireless but they are expensive and less reliable than hard cabling. In an environment where we have full control over things like a Theater Hard line is much preferred to Wireless.
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
Yes I'm using elips' with additions but that in essence turns them into moving mirror lights. One could use the same method to control any moving head ( Martin Mac250) But newer boards like the GrandMA and ETC Congo have options for controlling intelligent lights and pre-loded patterns like circles and waves.
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
OK that makes much more sense now. And yes hard lines are much better.
Thank you so much for your help and descriptions!
mourningmyloss4u 2 years ago
Dude this is amazing. I help out with lighting at my high school, and this is really cool. My favorite part is at 1:12 when that single mover shines through the red. What song is that?? It's really cool too! The ending is amazing!
BungalowPictures 2 years ago
Thanks for the complements. I started just like you are, Hanging lights and cuing shows in High School. Now I'm half finished getting my BFA in Theater Technology and Design (Light and sound of course) and I'm loving every moment.
The song is "Go" by Andy Hunter from his Exodus Album. It's a fantastic album and I highly recommend you check it out.
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
About how many hours of work would you say you put into this show? It looks really good by the way.
kiodo99 2 years ago
Well... Most of the lights were already hung for me so all I had to do was change the Movers from FOH to on stage and drop lines for the ACL's so that saved me lots of time.
I figured that part took about 4 or 5 hours.
Actually cuing the show took maybe 25 hours and then restoring the theater perhaps another 8 so from start to finish maybe 38 hours over about 4 days plus some time here and there tweaking.
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
sorry i keep askin these questions but are they your lights?
rugbyrulze 2 years ago
Don't feel bad at all. Asking lots of questions is the only reason i was able to do this at all.
And no, except for the Laser these aren't my lights. They belong to the school. The whole system that it being used to run this show including computers, light board, light fixtures and misc. things would cost easily over 40thousand dollars.
If you look at my other video on my channel you can see the lights that I do own. The video is poor quality but at least it gives you an idea.
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
thanks was that a stage you put your lights up ?
rugbyrulze 2 years ago
Yes. It was the stage in my college last year. It is a little small but that made it easier to fill the space and make it look interesting.
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
DUDE IF U MADE THAT UR A GINEUOSE
rugbyrulze 2 years ago
Well thank you but even a fast search on here will find lots and lots of quality light shows that are above and beyond my ability. That being said it was lots of fun and encourage you to get started in the theater lighting business if you're interested. They aren't all this fun but even then it's totally worth it.
PyroBoydj 2 years ago
Bet it looked even better in person. Great Job!
Zman87gt 3 years ago