People talk about "Jet fuel" like it's the most damning evidence out there that 9/11 was done by terrorists, but they never stop to wonder what the fuck kind of metal did it melt to cause the building to collapse as if there were bombs at the base of it? Even if you don't believe "conspiracy theories", you'd have to have had too many mercury vaccines to not laugh at that kind of horse shit.
It's so funny Glenn Beck laughing off 9/11 conspiracy when he has a bunch of theories that he believes exclusively, and the amount of evidence supporting them is his chalk board.
This is sad how ppl can lie and try to control u, but the saddest is part is that mindless idiots think shit like this is phony! We need to do something about it but everyone is fearful
By the way, I live in Las Vegas, the home of commercial controlled demolition, and have personally been to SIX controlled demolitions. I was an army combat engineer, and have handled explosives, and I am a career Industrial Technologist, and a 30 year pilot, and I can't believe how stupid Truthers are as a group.
Didn't you EVER want to learn basic technology?
Or did arguing like a bitch on youtube and facebook distract you?
BY THE WAY, the only political system to invade it's neighbors, was socialist, as in Hungary in 1956, or Czechoslovakia, or Poland, or Vietnam, or China, or Yugoslavia, or Empires like Japan, Imperial Germany, or Socialist Germany (Nazis), or Socialist Italy (Muzzolini). Even YOU should know that History.
@Merlin5x5 yeah im sure America didnt invade its benevolent south asian cousins in the 60s and its peaceful little neighbors in the south :) they just loved the idea of big american corporations indenturing their population and destroying their environment so much that they just adopted it :)
it makes me sick looking at Bush at the end with his usual smirk on his face and how he must be thinking "what a bunch of idiots u people r chanting mindless slogans USA ! USA !" when he knows the truth about 9/11
@USraeliTerror your username suggests the USA is a terror-inducing nation that kills its own citizens to bring about goals of greed and destruction that benefits the elite societies puppeteering the masses. which i would say is a load of bs.
I agree that Israel receives too much from the USA, but I am assuming your stance is with 9/11 truthers, if not, then i'm sorry. and you can thank me for the song info in your next comment :D
I'm insulted that the music of Lisa Gerrard & Pieter Bourke's "Meltdown", is being used to spread this political opinion. An opinion that I used to share, but can no longer because of the blind faith and information bias coupled with cognitive dissonance that most of the truthers seem to have.
Even using the word "truth" to represent your organization is just so naive and incorrect.
I have no problem with other people having educated opinions, but this movement needs better facts.
@JustTed Noam, just another intellectual bought out by NWO, its amazing that a man would pay with his dignity for that little underground shelter ticket :)
i think you guys need a hard back-to-earth moment. The Skeptic Magazine debunked, point by point, all the allegations that you people make, using REAL science. Go to their website.
The US government hasn't managed to pull off Watergate, or avoid scandals like Clinton's. There is no conspiracy, there are only paranoid people who convince each other that there is. Wake up, and grow up.
@rwandrall1 actually no they didnt; the pancake theory of twin towers collapse was refuted by the 45,000 structural engineer petition for investigation. And the DHS concentration camp Swift Luck Greens is actually a fabricated cover to debunk the Conyers facility in wyoming for which that photo was used then doctored by your friends at Popular Mechanic.
Respond to this video... And no son, Climategate does exist, Iraq War Diary did exist , what about the ACTA classified documents that floated up right when WIkileaks went down and they hunted down Assange?
Youre just a meathead like everybody else you know, go watch football buddy ;)
Personally after speaking to many political people and even ex MI5 agents in the uk who also believe it was a staged event and give motives for it I FULLY BELIEVE that it was an inside job as well as 7/7 London!
No footage of the pentagon plane? Eyewitness statements saying small plane then big plane then no plane then missile? There are so many unanswered questions but yet ronald knows all the answers if anyone needs them! Btw if u don't think it was an inside job stop watching and leaving comments on the videos jack ass!
Iraq not being involved in anything? USA had no right to remove saddam, just because they don't agree with how he did things if someone didn't like the usa's methods(which people don't btw) it doesn't give anyone the right to go in and remove the president or burn the constitution!
You really love Reading your own posts don't you! You've posted that many! If you believe that it was not and inside job please explain about building 7? NORAD not responding at all after the first plane hit?
nothing can fall faster than freefall speed. i thought you were the physicist.
the buildings fell at nearly free fall speed that should be evidence enough that explosives had to be used to blast away the steel holding up the building....the whole thing came down in one go...not a little fell here...a little fell there...but BOOOM all gone..then the next building BOOOM all gone.and then out of nowhere you see WTC 7 fall while the top is still in tact(clearly a demolishion)
nothing can fall faster than freefall speed. i thought you were the physicist.
the buildings fell at nearly free fall speed that should be evidence enough that explosives had to be used to blast away the steel holding up the building....the whole thing came down in one go...not a little fell here...a little fell there...but BOOOM all gone..then the next building BOOOM all gone.and then out of nowhere you see WTC 7 fall while the top is still in tact(clearly a demolishion)
Why do you push a myth so dead that not even most of your fellow liars have abandoned it? The towers fell roughly two-thirds as fast as free fall. There is nothing unusual about that fact. No demolition professionals swallow your snake oil because there is no--ZERO--physical evidence of explosives. The notion that two 110-story buildings were prepped for demolition without anybody noticing is absurd.
can we all agree that whether or not the government played apart in the initial terrorist attacks they have been setting up bases in iraq and afghanistan taken control of oil fields all while at the same time supporting israel as they always have while innocent palestinians and afghany people are murdered.we as a country strike more fear in their eyes then they will ever do towards us and they are the ones suffering.
while our men fight for "freedom" only to see more rights taken away from us for our "safety" and while the ruling elite profit off of oil companys...if you would look at the iraqi people eye to eye youd see that we have more in common with them than the rich men in black suits who tell us that they are our enemy....ask yourself who is benefitting from this war and your finger should point right to the real criminals
You just asked the obvious question that exposes these America-hating liars. It's amazing that they cling to their falsehoods even after the passage of time has disproved them.
Like more other morons on here you didn't actually read that decision, did you?
'The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.'
It is clear on the face of this text that it does not purport to confer power to levy income taxes in a generic sense,***AN AUTHORITY ALREADY POSSESSED AND NEVER QUESTIONED.***
We can't agree that America has taken control of oil fields in Afghanistan because there are none. We can't agree that America has taken control of oil fields in Iraq because the Iraqi government has been awarding lucrative contracts to Russian and China.
I'll agree to the extent that disrupting process is hardly complete control. However, if one's goal is to disrupt production in order to raise price level for end products then the US has been very successful in achieving it's ends.
You are an idiot. The worldwide price of oil spiked as a result of greatly increased demand by China and India. The U.S. imports roughly FOUR percent (4%) of its oil from Iraq, the same as before the war. American oil companies opposed the war and wanted Bush to drop the sanctions.
Oil companies want consumers to buy the same amount at a higher price, or a greater amount at the same price. THEY DO NOT WANT CONSUMERS TO BUY LESS AT A HIGHER PRICE!
Of course they do. Volume sales by unit have not halved. Price has more than doubled. Even though unit sales fall it is MORE than made up for by Price increase. You really should invest in some basic arithmetic skills.
You really can't get your mind around the simple fact that the worldwide spike in oil prices was driven by increased demand in China and India. The Iraq War played an insignificant role. We pay more for gasoline because two large, rapidly expanding economies demand more oil. We do not "control" Iraqi oil fields. Nobody thinks we do. We have not received the best deals from the new Iraqi government.
im pulling up information and all you can do is say im lying...yes im sure america has no intentions on gaining control over the last remaining oil fields in the middle east, whoever has control over them controls the most VALUABLE fuel that drives western society...but that has nothing to do with america invading the middle east...were spreading democracy RIGHT! the best way you can...with a gun in hand.
Recycling ancient, thoroughly debunked falsehoods is not "pulling up information." America doesn't control ANY oil fields in the Middle East. We BUY Middle Eastern oil at market value.
Nobody invaded the Middle East. America invaded Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein from power.
Israel is a tiny democracy surrounded by plutocracies and theocracies that want to destroy it.
yes and hitler was ridding the world of the plague that are the jews....your a nazi who supports tyranny...visit the middle east and see if your point of view doesnt change...of course you probably have all the information on the world you need in your suburban apartment...fuck you troll
Uh, you are the guy who hates Jews and admires Hitler. I have nothing against Jews and despise Hitler as an evil monster. Doesn't your admiration of Hitler and hatred of Jews make it far more likely that you are the Nazi here?
Your beloved jihadists want to establish an Islamic theocracy. I extol the virtues of the West, freedom and liberty. Which of us supports tyranny?
They have to figure it out on their own. All we can do is point them in the right direction. The world's opening its eyes one way or another.. so don't waste your time on a single person.
i got bashed for telling this guy it was a cover up. this is what he said "ok retard, so you are trying to say that out of all of the Millions and Millions who saw the same thing 2 planes crashin into the building, and with modern technology dont you think that someone if they knew this was a cover up would leak it to the liberal media remember they all hate BUSH so they would have exposed that in a heartbeat, dude your pretty
I got bashed today for telling someone it was an inside job...and one of his responses was...Building 7 was a poor construction, that's why it fell. LOL! I also asked him why did the towers fall at near the speed of gravity, and his response was: Sir Isaac Newton answered this question on gravity a long time ago. I am so sick of dealing with such close minded and ignorant people!
But, the fact is that you're the ignoramus. The towers did not collapse in free fall. The collapses were explained very well by NIST. You can't read those reports because you lack any understanding of basic physics, but the worldwide community of structural engineers has read them carefully and found no significant errors in the analysis. What do you know that real engineers don't and how did you learn it?
If you believe the NIST report, than wouldn't that make you an ignoramus? How about the 1104 architectural and engineering professionals that have found a problem with the analysis? Are they ignoramuses in your opinion? I'm not an architect or engineer, but based on my own common sense and understanding of gravity, I find it very difficult to see a building collapsing that fast without explosives knocking out the resistance below. Also, why does your trusted NIST report not include WTC 7?
Gage's gaggle of fools and frauds includes almost no structural engineers. It's easy to sign up America-hating academics from humanities departments, but try finding an actual structural engineer who will defend the nonsense peddled by Gage. There is a reason he doesn't take questions when hustles the suckers. Forget your "common sense." No demolition professionals swallow the snake oil because the collapses of the towers did not resemble demolitions in any way.
are you old enough to be on the computer? where do you get your facts? why are you pulling up statistics on how others think? cant think for yourself?
You seem to be the one looking at the opinion of a few people and think it's the truth. Can you form an independent thought? Did you know 'pull it' is not a term for explosive demolition? Do you know anything about physics?
Your answers should be no, no, no, because you are ignorant.
i make my own opinions based on my own basic knowledge...for example if you were to drop a penny from the top of the wtc it would roughly take a little under 10 seconds to hit the ground based on the laws of physics i rather not go into detail...the towers fell at about the same speed theres too many videos to say otherwise....the pancake theory cannot support this alone not mentioning the fact that steal doesnt collapse like pancakes....explain your theory without being IGNORANT of those facts
how high was the remaining steel structure that was unnaffected from the plane or fire...13 seconds!!!! do you know how many floors the world trade center has? how wide across the buildings are? and your gonna say all this was destroyed because a plane crashed into it? look at the sixe of the plane compared to the building and tell me that its big enough to crush all that steel to dust
You keep assuming things that don't exist. It was the planes and the fire that weakened the structure, gravity did the rest.
No steel was crushed to dust, you cannot turn steel to dust in the time frame with any type of force. Now, maybe you sped time up and made it all turn to rust THEN turned it to dust?
How can anyone know this? The structural elements were shipped from the site so quickly it was not possible to inventory the evidence left let alone examine it.
How anybody who brays so loudly be such an ignoramus? You are an uninformed liar promoting an evil cause. The steel lay around for months. You can make up bullshit for the amusement of the other kids, but it's still bullshit. The steel was thoroughly examined. You know nothing.
I doubt that you know anything at all about China. You certainly didn't know that the recovered steel lay around at Fresh Kills for months before some of it was shipped to China.
Shh. Just shoot yourself. Please. For this world. I'd love to hear that a man name Ronald Wieck killed himself. Please do this. You are no use to this world. Please find the nearest lethal item and murder yourself. We do not need you in this life anymore.
Yes, you liars are certainly evil scumbags. I wish the worst imaginable fate for you: I wish that you be confined to a room full of science books and forced to read them.
You're damn right you won't go into detail. The insane Judy Wood, who believes in imaginary energy weapons, posted a nonsensical chart years ago showing the fall of a penny. The towers did not fall at free fall: they fell roughly two-thirds as fast.
There is no "pancake theory"--you are living in 2005. When the external columns weakened and buckled, the floor trusses gave way. Once a global collapse ensued, the floors necessarily pancaked. You are confusing a result with a cause.
afew people? where do you get your statistics because wherever you do i suggest you stop making decisions based on them... majority of people look to statistics for answers because people are like sheep following the herd. its far too easy to print false statistics and it would be ignorant of you not to think that the media would....
How many squibs do you need to see preceding floor collapse?
Your Pancake Collapse theory has been debunked in numerous ways by multiple experts from the fields of physics, structural engineering, and demolition.
There were no squibs. You see bursts of compressed air in all the videos. Notice that the plume of ejected debris gradually expands, exactly the opposite of what you would see in an explosion. This is very old stuff.
There is no "pancake theory." No demolition experts swallow your evil movement's nonsense.
Scary stuff huh?...Time to do something before we become the next round of sacrifices in the "Ultimate Plan".....Please, I urge everyone to look up and watch Zeitgeist. You won't be able to find it on Youtube so google it. Spread the word. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER and LACK OF KNOWLEDGE SUPPRESSES US AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO!
How will you do that? How can stupid America-hating liars cope with real engineers? The frauds who lead you morons by the nose, like David Ray Grifter and Gage, hustle bucks from imbeciles, but run away from debates with anyone who knows anything.
Your beloved jihadists remain proud of their victory, as you know.
You are receiving negative marks because you are an ineducable dunce. Nobody who workss in the demolition industry swallows your stupid lies. There were no explosives anywhere in the WTC complex: evidence for them is nonexistent.
Apparently one needs to bring down 3 skyscrapers in a single day right before thousands of passersby and with prominent MSM coverage b4 one gets away with it. See Sep 11, 2001 for example. Re: Bldgs 1,2, & 7 freefall to their ignominious destruction and subsequent investigation into causes is actively derided and impeded.
If you thought your comment was factual, you are wrong. If you thought your comment was ironic, your audience missed the irony.
I hardly see you aiding in that endeavor ThomasRobertLea while closing your own eyes.
I was replying as much, if not more so, to your question of being "thumbed down" (given negative feedback) for your OP
If you thought the comment (OP) was factual, it is not. If you intended to focus on the irony of the comment it is now plain that your audience finds no irony in the statement that the 3 towers (you didn't even get the bldg count correct) were demolished and the perps continue free from Justice
Well I'm sorry but I live in the present and future. Where as you live in the present and the past. I know justice always unveils itself in one way or another, whether it be noticeable and in your face or not. Everything is an equilibrium. It's impossible to have a universe where something as negative September 11th isn't counterbalanced with positivity, in other words it's impossible that good will not come from this.Unfortunately this event happened,but you cant change the past
You live in a haze. You reach conclusions based on emotional impact. Your opinion has little value to those who respect facts and replicable theorem.
You keep wishing upon that star. But don't come crying when that star doesn't rescue you from the harm that comes your way while you weren't paying attention to your surroundings.
You've been caught lying. There was no free fall. This myth is long dead.The massive multi-agency investigation was not impeded by anyone or anything. The 9/11 Commission, by the way, was NOT the investigation.
How is the manner in which World Trade Center Bldgs 1,2 & 7 fell to the ground on Sep 11, 2001 distinguishable from free fall?
Keep in mind there were literally thousands of eye witnesses and dozens of videographers. Your mere denial brings no veracity to evidence we *have* all seen b4 RonaldWieck stepped out to lie about it.
What does the 9/11 Commission have to do with any comment I made? What kind of shill makes such obvious mistakes in attribution?
The collapses took demonstrably longer than free fall. That is a significant difference. Try an experiment. Imagine you are not an anonymous troll on a tiny blog. You are debating one of NIST's structural engineers. You make the novel claim that WTC 7 was not hit by tons of debris that ripped a 20-story gash in the south side. He shows you the photos and points out that nobody disputes the fact the building was heavily damaged and the fires were started by falling debris. What's your next trick?
Maybe if you left the safety and comfort of your hobbit hole and exposed yourself to the reality of the world around you would find you could survive unpleasant truths.
Debunking your version of events of Sep 11, 2001 is an exercise in futility. It is obvious now that there is no end of fabrications you are willing to bring to bear in this feeble attempt to support your fantasy.
I have no "version" of the events of 9/11. I understand and accept the version demonstrated by the work of real structural engineers, physicists, metallurgists, fire safety experts, demolition professionals, computer programmers, air traffic controllers, avionics techs, crash investigators, and forensic examiners.
I have fabricated nothing. All of the absurd, thoroughly debunked myths you cling to are fabrications.
You fabricate the duration of collapse, that evidence was not destroyed or removed from view immediately after in an attempt to hide it and that there is no evidence of demolition material on site.
You're a shill and your comprehension of science and settled issues leaves you defenseless so you often resort to name calling and polemics to support your imaginary theories.
You claim support by struc eng.s, physicists, demo experts etal. yet have not read the testimony given by such experts at all.
More stupid lies from a very stupid liar. NOBODY can "fabricate" the collapse times because YOU CAN TIME THEM FOR YOURSELF, idiot!
NOBODY removed "evidence." The structural steel was trucked away in a process that took weeks. NO evidence for demolition was found--no detonator cord, no wiring, no chemical signatures on the steel, no seismic evidence, no sounds of blasts on auditory records.
Stop babbling about imaginary "shills" (nobody pays anybody to post on tiny blogs).
Roughly equivalent to Free Fall. There is a multitude of video evidence to back my claim. Whereas you and Ronald have only supposition.
iow if one supposes that events occurred as you claim then one is forced to ignore all the physical evidence and recordings of the event taken during the event.
You've been caught lying. The towers fell at roughly two-thirds of free fall. Nobody disagrees because anybody can time the collapses for himself.
The recordings you stupidly refer to are the ones that contain no auditory evidence of a demolition. The physical evidence you claim does not exist. There is zero physical evidence for the use of explosives.
How can you bluff people who know so much more than you do?
That the younger may not know is the LIE that got us to declare war on Vietnam.
Everybody knows it now, government has admited it.
"Remember the Maine" That one got us in the Spanish American War. That lie got us Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, where we keep the terrorist. Of course now we know the Maine blew up when a coal fire they had been trying to put out since leaving New York, got to a ammo compartment. It was a accident put to good use.
Nobody lied. Seamen in heavy seas overreacted to blips on their radar screens. LBJ himself wasn't persuaded that they had been attacked, but cynically exploited their confusion to ram through legislation he desired.
You are, of course, lying when you pretend otherwise.
Remember, as long as honest people still how to read, your evil movement can't peddle its falsehoods.
the world trade center was the first building in history to collapse due to structural failure caused by fire, not mentioning its one of the largest buildings in the world and it did not just collapse but came down in less than 10 seconds just about freefall speed. their was a smaller building that collapsed which was not on fire at all . their is abundant evidence and peoples testimony suggesting that bombs went off before the plane ever made contact.
what? structural failure cause by fire... you must not even read, you only listen to what one idiot tells you as long as he sounds smart. There were castles burned down in the medieval times, i have heard of plenty of structural failure problems when it comes to big buildings. and remember, the twin towers were tall, not large. coming down so fast was inevitable.
by building i meant steal structure, my mistake. and if you know about the laws of physics the buildings falling that fast is physically impossible unless it was a demolition. i actually think for myself and to be trying to take away from my credibility as you defend the initail story on this video, it would have to be your intelligence that would be called into questioning. how can you watch this viddeo alone and not see the truth?
its clear that all ronald has to say ignores all common sense and reasoning....what kind of abuse pushes someone to troll a 911 related video with no purpose but to try to hide and ignore truth...how can you have posted as many comments as you have over something as simple as... a gigantic building turning to dust and what could have caused that? YOU ARE POSSESSED BY STUPIDITY
You are far too unintelligent to use reason and far too ignorant to command any facts. No building turned to dust. The dust was gypsum wallboard. ALL the structural steel was recovered. You have been lied to by the unscrupulous frauds who exploit your irrational hatred of America. The collapses were caused by the impacts of the planes and the resultant fires, fires that could not be fought.
how could the steal be recovered? that would mean that the building either never was demolished or that the steal fell like a deck of cards....if steal was there it wouldnt have collapsed....STEAL DOES NOT COLLAPSE! how about the molten metal at the base of the towers after the "fall" probably just made from the friction of wallboard right? wtc 7 alone is too big to fall into its own silhouette and you really believe that both trade centers did the same....whats wrong with you?
i dont think you have much experience in the construction industry or knoledge that these buildings were some of the most well engineered structures known to man
theres enough video evidence for me to see melting steel....fire doesnt do that...nor does fire travel down a collapsing building
I don't think you have any experience with logic.
I'll ask you again, HOW DID THE OUTER PARTS OF THE WTC FALL FASTER THAN FREE FALL SPEED? That is assuming you are right about the WTC falling that fast.
nothing can fall faster than freefall speed. i thought you were the physicist.
the buildings fell at nearly free fall speed that should be evidence enough that explosives had to be used to blast away the steel holding up the building....the whole thing came down in one go...not a little fell here...a little fell there...but BOOOM all gone..then the next building BOOOM all gone.and then out of nowhere you see WTC 7 fall while the top is still in tact(clearly a demolishion)
nothing can fall faster than freefall speed. i thought you were the physicist.
the buildings fell at nearly free fall speed that should be evidence enough that explosives had to be used to blast away the steel holding up the building....the whole thing came down in one go...not a little fell here...a little fell there...but BOOOM all gone..then the next building BOOOM all gone.and then out of nowhere you see WTC 7 fall while the top is still in tact(clearly a demolishion)
nothing can fall faster than freefall speed. i thought you were the physicist.
the buildings fell at nearly free fall speed that should be evidence enough that explosives had to be used to blast away the steel holding up the building....the whole thing came down in one go...not a little fell here...a little fell there...but BOOOM all gone..then the next building BOOOM all gone.and then out of nowhere you see WTC 7 fall while the top is still in tact
You've been caught lying. There was no melting steel. No fire traveled "down" a collapsing building. You haven't the slightest idea of what you're talking about.
Tell us why NO demolition professionals are fooled by your evil movement's lies.
You're lying. The liars who have tricked you have been refuted. None of the people who are cited as having seen molten "steel" are capable of distinguishing it from other molten metals. Mark Loizeaux has corrected the conspiracy liars many times, but they keep repeating their falsehoods.
There were pits of it in the footprint of the bldg a week after the event. Photographs and Video are available. Do I need to hold your hand and walk you through gaining access to this material?
For now I'll leave you with the idea that Google is your friend for in the immortal words of Batman
no fire in history has ever destroyed millions of tons of steel..the only thing that could have done that much damage is thermite explosives..you seem to ignore evidence that proves your falsifying information. i was being sarcastic by justifying hitlers actions as you justify the slaughter of thousands of innocent every year because of the decisions made by the US government.israely soldiers slaughter palestinians everyday funded by the same country that invades its enemys and collects its oil
All the structural steel was recovered. Much of it was damaged, but it was not "destroyed." There was considerably less than "millions of tons" of steel in the towers (about 300,000 tons).
Thermite is not an explosive; it is an incendiary. It has no use in demolition. Nobody has yet figured out a way to make thermite cut across a horizontal column.
You've been caught lying about oil. America buys its oil at market price. It's time to abandon this myth.
i read some of the stuff debunking explosion theories and all it said in the most complicated way was that a plane hitting the building and burning the top floors is enough energy to "loosen the connections" of steel and cause the building to fall as fast as it did. instead of confusing yourself with high school level physics problems with interchangeable variables it should be obvious that steel conections dont weaken to the point of colapse. never have before and especially not to that extent
Yes, of course. Why believe the thousand physicists, metallurgists, structural engineers, and fire safety experts consulted by NIST? Why believe the engineers at the ASCE journal, or the FEMA group? Why believe the Purdue or Berkeley simulation teams? Why believe independent researchers like Dr. Bazant, or Dr. Greening, or Dr. Astaneh?
You don't need these nasty scientists with their inconvenient facts. You can pull stupid nonsense out of your ass.
Yes, it really was all Muslim terrorists. The Khobar Towers, the African embassies, the USS Cole--all of them the work of Muslim terrorists. As the Muslim terrorists themselves don't deny their acts of war, why on earth do you?
You cling to mad fantasies for which not a shred of evidence exists, yet you charge rationalists backed by a mountain of evidence with being in denial. Very odd.
@RonaldWieck "The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US . . ." -- Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook
@Merlin5x5 Apparently you didn't notice, that I was quoting Robin Cook, the former British Foreign secretary. I'm not exactly sure what to think of it myself, but that quote is pretty heavy from an ex-politician...
@Merlin5x5 Personal attacks in the second comment already. This starts well... I don't like to speculate, so I'll admit straight away that I have no idea, who it might have been or what they're doing. And I'm not really saying that Al Qaeda doesn't exist at all on the face of the earth. I've just watched this one interesting documentary, that basically says, that Al Qaeda isn't what people claim it to be, but as I've already said, I haven't looked into this enough to make proper conclusions yet.
@Merlin5x5 What about Al Zawahiri? Yeah, they're sitting together and Al Zawahiri is babbling away some fundamentalist stuff. So? And how do YOU know that those soldier boys who were parcticing etc. on the film are the hijackers? Where did it say so on the film? Can you recognice some of the hijackers there? It seems more like your own, rash assertions to me. Now that you'd given me your "evidence", I'd like you to watch this: /watch?v=r-hYorNi0nA
@Merlin5x5 I'd really like to know about your information sources. They wrote a couple of anti-american fatwas years ago... So what? Where's the evidence that they are now LEADING A MILITARILY ORGANIZED group of soldiers. It's funny how you believe it's Osama Bin laden behind the 9/11 attacks with such fervour, when even FBI admits that they have no hard evidence connecting him to those attacks.
@scorpio881 You mean, other than the military assault attacks on MUMBAI, India, London, UK, Madrid, Spain, FIVE African US Embassies, TWICE against the US using hired body bombers (Shoe and Underwear), Al QAEDA in IRAQ, Russia, Chechnya, Hamas in Jordan, Hamas in the Gaza Strip, and constantly against ISRAEL, so, do they count??? PLUS, they are NOT soldiers, DUH, they wear no uniform, and they hide behind children and villages. Some Heroes YOU have their, Creepy.
does anyone know the name of this song? please let me know; thanks.
datanmankingjester 2 weeks ago
People talk about "Jet fuel" like it's the most damning evidence out there that 9/11 was done by terrorists, but they never stop to wonder what the fuck kind of metal did it melt to cause the building to collapse as if there were bombs at the base of it? Even if you don't believe "conspiracy theories", you'd have to have had too many mercury vaccines to not laugh at that kind of horse shit.
Neofcon 3 months ago
03:29 Goat Of Mendes
faqirsilki 7 months ago
It's so funny Glenn Beck laughing off 9/11 conspiracy when he has a bunch of theories that he believes exclusively, and the amount of evidence supporting them is his chalk board.
larry149 9 months ago
This is sad how ppl can lie and try to control u, but the saddest is part is that mindless idiots think shit like this is phony! We need to do something about it but everyone is fearful
AshTuck313 11 months ago
By the way, I live in Las Vegas, the home of commercial controlled demolition, and have personally been to SIX controlled demolitions. I was an army combat engineer, and have handled explosives, and I am a career Industrial Technologist, and a 30 year pilot, and I can't believe how stupid Truthers are as a group.
Didn't you EVER want to learn basic technology?
Or did arguing like a bitch on youtube and facebook distract you?
Merlin5x5 11 months ago
These weak fuckers can't build a new world order, they can barely keep their pants on when we catch them redhanded lol.
NiceGuy838111 11 months ago
War is the Symptom Extreme Capitalism is the Disease
aks25aks 1 year ago
@aks25aks
BY THE WAY, the only political system to invade it's neighbors, was socialist, as in Hungary in 1956, or Czechoslovakia, or Poland, or Vietnam, or China, or Yugoslavia, or Empires like Japan, Imperial Germany, or Socialist Germany (Nazis), or Socialist Italy (Muzzolini). Even YOU should know that History.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 yeah im sure America didnt invade its benevolent south asian cousins in the 60s and its peaceful little neighbors in the south :) they just loved the idea of big american corporations indenturing their population and destroying their environment so much that they just adopted it :)
NiceGuy838111 11 months ago
I believe we have to many media. We should go back to day of just newspapers lol. You cant believe the media. They all lie.
james64468 1 year ago
it makes me sick looking at Bush at the end with his usual smirk on his face and how he must be thinking "what a bunch of idiots u people r chanting mindless slogans USA ! USA !" when he knows the truth about 9/11
xadam2dudex 1 year ago
Everyone knows the truth....everyone on some level knows the truth about everything already.
Jammieg001 1 year ago
W is such a rock star in the end of the video..
thedayitriedtodie 1 year ago
@USraeliTerror your username suggests the USA is a terror-inducing nation that kills its own citizens to bring about goals of greed and destruction that benefits the elite societies puppeteering the masses. which i would say is a load of bs.
I agree that Israel receives too much from the USA, but I am assuming your stance is with 9/11 truthers, if not, then i'm sorry. and you can thank me for the song info in your next comment :D
visualkei72 1 year ago
@visualkei72 you know for a red blooded meatheaded hardliner flagwaving douchebag you seem to describe how united states operates pretty well ;)
NiceGuy838111 11 months ago
@NiceGuy838111
You know, for an ignorant white trash, 20 something conspiracy nutjob,
you are still a fucked up savage. Don't pretend you are some sophisticated
Intelligence, you can't figure out an attack, so you cowardly dreamed up an
attack by George Bush. That's about the safest enemy you could have, isn't it?
Merlin5x5 11 months ago
@USraeliTerror
I disagree with your opinion vehemently, but good music is for everyone...
Lisa Gerrard & Pieter Bourke - Meltdown (also featured on The Insider Soundtrack)
visualkei72 1 year ago
I'm insulted that the music of Lisa Gerrard & Pieter Bourke's "Meltdown", is being used to spread this political opinion. An opinion that I used to share, but can no longer because of the blind faith and information bias coupled with cognitive dissonance that most of the truthers seem to have.
Even using the word "truth" to represent your organization is just so naive and incorrect.
I have no problem with other people having educated opinions, but this movement needs better facts.
visualkei72 1 year ago
Bush was controlled by CIA. CIA run America not Obama. click justice party UK. for great news.
justicepartyuk 1 year ago
Bill Hicks nailed it better than anyone else.
MrHarrylime79 1 year ago
Amusing that this video uses a Noam Chomsky quote, when Chomsky thinks 9/11 conspiracy theories are laughable.
JustTed 1 year ago 3
@JustTed what's amusing is the fact that Chomsky using the exact technique described in his quote for the 9/11 conspiracy
WeAreChangeChicago 1 year ago 13
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@WeAreChangeChicago
Could you do me a favor, and forward to me the HUGE GAZILLIONS of creditable civil engineers who believe in the 9/11 Conspiracy movement?
Because in 20 years of being an Industrial Engineer, I haven't met one.
And I live with NIST standards every day, as do you.
Next time you walk up to an elevator, take a look at the POSTED
NIST weight limits beside the door.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@JustTed Noam, just another intellectual bought out by NWO, its amazing that a man would pay with his dignity for that little underground shelter ticket :)
NiceGuy838111 11 months ago
@JustTed Comsky doesn't think that; he doesn't claim to know either way and maintains an open mind.
augustimagination 5 months ago in playlist denial
i think you guys need a hard back-to-earth moment. The Skeptic Magazine debunked, point by point, all the allegations that you people make, using REAL science. Go to their website.
The US government hasn't managed to pull off Watergate, or avoid scandals like Clinton's. There is no conspiracy, there are only paranoid people who convince each other that there is. Wake up, and grow up.
rwandrall1 1 year ago
@rwandrall1 actually no they didnt; the pancake theory of twin towers collapse was refuted by the 45,000 structural engineer petition for investigation. And the DHS concentration camp Swift Luck Greens is actually a fabricated cover to debunk the Conyers facility in wyoming for which that photo was used then doctored by your friends at Popular Mechanic.
NiceGuy838111 11 months ago
Respond to this video... And no son, Climategate does exist, Iraq War Diary did exist , what about the ACTA classified documents that floated up right when WIkileaks went down and they hunted down Assange?
Youre just a meathead like everybody else you know, go watch football buddy ;)
NiceGuy838111 11 months ago
Share this video! We need to wake the masses one person at a time!
This is an infowar! Good luck all
PeaceIsRad 1 year ago
Personally after speaking to many political people and even ex MI5 agents in the uk who also believe it was a staged event and give motives for it I FULLY BELIEVE that it was an inside job as well as 7/7 London!
Infowarrioruk84 1 year ago 2
No footage of the pentagon plane? Eyewitness statements saying small plane then big plane then no plane then missile? There are so many unanswered questions but yet ronald knows all the answers if anyone needs them! Btw if u don't think it was an inside job stop watching and leaving comments on the videos jack ass!
Infowarrioruk84 1 year ago
Iraq not being involved in anything? USA had no right to remove saddam, just because they don't agree with how he did things if someone didn't like the usa's methods(which people don't btw) it doesn't give anyone the right to go in and remove the president or burn the constitution!
Infowarrioruk84 1 year ago
@ronaldknowitallidiot!
You really love Reading your own posts don't you! You've posted that many! If you believe that it was not and inside job please explain about building 7? NORAD not responding at all after the first plane hit?
Infowarrioruk84 1 year ago
for future reference the song is lisa gerard 'meltdown' Thanx
larry149 1 year ago
does anyonee kknow what the music is?
larry149 1 year ago
Ventura: How can 2 planes knock down 3 buildings?
Hannity: Pretty easy, it was a bi.., it's blru..lbr.. it was a 757.. blwstrbl.. er 747..
What the fuck was that?!?
myquill23 1 year ago 3
@myquill23 That is how they sound like when they are lying!
sankofa669 1 year ago
@myquill23
Don't you love how he starts the answer with 'pretty easy' before failing miserably to explain
larry149 1 year ago
Does anyone know the name of this song or where it came from?
thekennady 1 year ago
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nothing can fall faster than freefall speed. i thought you were the physicist.
the buildings fell at nearly free fall speed that should be evidence enough that explosives had to be used to blast away the steel holding up the building....the whole thing came down in one go...not a little fell here...a little fell there...but BOOOM all gone..then the next building BOOOM all gone.and then out of nowhere you see WTC 7 fall while the top is still in tact(clearly a demolishion)
purplekush604 1 year ago
If nothing can fall faster than free fall speed, and the WTC fell at free fall speed, How did large parts of the outer wall go faster than the rest?
Find a single demolition expert that supports your claim of CD.
RetSquid 1 year ago
nothing can fall faster than freefall speed. i thought you were the physicist.
the buildings fell at nearly free fall speed that should be evidence enough that explosives had to be used to blast away the steel holding up the building....the whole thing came down in one go...not a little fell here...a little fell there...but BOOOM all gone..then the next building BOOOM all gone.and then out of nowhere you see WTC 7 fall while the top is still in tact(clearly a demolishion)
purplekush604 1 year ago
Why do you push a myth so dead that not even most of your fellow liars have abandoned it? The towers fell roughly two-thirds as fast as free fall. There is nothing unusual about that fact. No demolition professionals swallow your snake oil because there is no--ZERO--physical evidence of explosives. The notion that two 110-story buildings were prepped for demolition without anybody noticing is absurd.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
The word "not" in the first sentence is a typo. There is no editing function that allows me to remove it.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
can we all agree that whether or not the government played apart in the initial terrorist attacks they have been setting up bases in iraq and afghanistan taken control of oil fields all while at the same time supporting israel as they always have while innocent palestinians and afghany people are murdered.we as a country strike more fear in their eyes then they will ever do towards us and they are the ones suffering.
purplekush604 1 year ago
while our men fight for "freedom" only to see more rights taken away from us for our "safety" and while the ruling elite profit off of oil companys...if you would look at the iraqi people eye to eye youd see that we have more in common with them than the rich men in black suits who tell us that they are our enemy....ask yourself who is benefitting from this war and your finger should point right to the real criminals
purplekush604 1 year ago
Name a single oil field that the United States has control of and is getting the oil for below market price.
RetSquid 1 year ago
RetSquid,
You just asked the obvious question that exposes these America-hating liars. It's amazing that they cling to their falsehoods even after the passage of time has disproved them.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
@RonaldWieck
Debunking these guys is almost as much fun as debunking those who say that there is no law for Federal income tax.
Aarron Russo's movie "Freedom to Facsim" is a total joke and these guys believe it with ZERO proof and call us nuts!!
RetSquid 1 year ago
So you disagree with the Supreme Court, which has rendered a judgement, that Amendment XVI adds no new taxing authority?
How utterly self serving. Screw the Courts RetSquid is correct anyway.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
Like more other morons on here you didn't actually read that decision, did you?
'The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.'
It is clear on the face of this text that it does not purport to confer power to levy income taxes in a generic sense,***AN AUTHORITY ALREADY POSSESSED AND NEVER QUESTIONED.***
Brushaber v. UPRR Company
RetSquid 1 year ago
We can't agree that America has taken control of oil fields in Afghanistan because there are none. We can't agree that America has taken control of oil fields in Iraq because the Iraqi government has been awarding lucrative contracts to Russian and China.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
I'll agree to the extent that disrupting process is hardly complete control. However, if one's goal is to disrupt production in order to raise price level for end products then the US has been very successful in achieving it's ends.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
You are an idiot. The worldwide price of oil spiked as a result of greatly increased demand by China and India. The U.S. imports roughly FOUR percent (4%) of its oil from Iraq, the same as before the war. American oil companies opposed the war and wanted Bush to drop the sanctions.
Oil companies want consumers to buy the same amount at a higher price, or a greater amount at the same price. THEY DO NOT WANT CONSUMERS TO BUY LESS AT A HIGHER PRICE!
Read a basic economics text, dunce.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
Of course they do. Volume sales by unit have not halved. Price has more than doubled. Even though unit sales fall it is MORE than made up for by Price increase. You really should invest in some basic arithmetic skills.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
You really can't get your mind around the simple fact that the worldwide spike in oil prices was driven by increased demand in China and India. The Iraq War played an insignificant role. We pay more for gasoline because two large, rapidly expanding economies demand more oil. We do not "control" Iraqi oil fields. Nobody thinks we do. We have not received the best deals from the new Iraqi government.
Live with reality.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
im pulling up information and all you can do is say im lying...yes im sure america has no intentions on gaining control over the last remaining oil fields in the middle east, whoever has control over them controls the most VALUABLE fuel that drives western society...but that has nothing to do with america invading the middle east...were spreading democracy RIGHT! the best way you can...with a gun in hand.
do you know what israel is?
purplekush604 1 year ago
Recycling ancient, thoroughly debunked falsehoods is not "pulling up information." America doesn't control ANY oil fields in the Middle East. We BUY Middle Eastern oil at market value.
Nobody invaded the Middle East. America invaded Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein from power.
Israel is a tiny democracy surrounded by plutocracies and theocracies that want to destroy it.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
yes and hitler was ridding the world of the plague that are the jews....your a nazi who supports tyranny...visit the middle east and see if your point of view doesnt change...of course you probably have all the information on the world you need in your suburban apartment...fuck you troll
purplekush604 1 year ago
Uh, you are the guy who hates Jews and admires Hitler. I have nothing against Jews and despise Hitler as an evil monster. Doesn't your admiration of Hitler and hatred of Jews make it far more likely that you are the Nazi here?
Your beloved jihadists want to establish an Islamic theocracy. I extol the virtues of the West, freedom and liberty. Which of us supports tyranny?
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
read the bottom one first.
lew935 1 year ago
@lew935
They have to figure it out on their own. All we can do is point them in the right direction. The world's opening its eyes one way or another.. so don't waste your time on a single person.
ThomasRobertLea 1 year ago
stupid to think Mulsims dont hate us and it is because we are free and we have a open society one that Muslims dont have and hate"
help me wake this asshole up his channel is OEKCVB
lew935 1 year ago
i got bashed for telling this guy it was a cover up. this is what he said "ok retard, so you are trying to say that out of all of the Millions and Millions who saw the same thing 2 planes crashin into the building, and with modern technology dont you think that someone if they knew this was a cover up would leak it to the liberal media remember they all hate BUSH so they would have exposed that in a heartbeat, dude your pretty
lew935 1 year ago
I got bashed today for telling someone it was an inside job...and one of his responses was...Building 7 was a poor construction, that's why it fell. LOL! I also asked him why did the towers fall at near the speed of gravity, and his response was: Sir Isaac Newton answered this question on gravity a long time ago. I am so sick of dealing with such close minded and ignorant people!
jamezbond78 1 year ago
But, the fact is that you're the ignoramus. The towers did not collapse in free fall. The collapses were explained very well by NIST. You can't read those reports because you lack any understanding of basic physics, but the worldwide community of structural engineers has read them carefully and found no significant errors in the analysis. What do you know that real engineers don't and how did you learn it?
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
If you believe the NIST report, than wouldn't that make you an ignoramus? How about the 1104 architectural and engineering professionals that have found a problem with the analysis? Are they ignoramuses in your opinion? I'm not an architect or engineer, but based on my own common sense and understanding of gravity, I find it very difficult to see a building collapsing that fast without explosives knocking out the resistance below. Also, why does your trusted NIST report not include WTC 7?
jamezbond78 1 year ago
Gage's gaggle of fools and frauds includes almost no structural engineers. It's easy to sign up America-hating academics from humanities departments, but try finding an actual structural engineer who will defend the nonsense peddled by Gage. There is a reason he doesn't take questions when hustles the suckers. Forget your "common sense." No demolition professionals swallow the snake oil because the collapses of the towers did not resemble demolitions in any way.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
@jamezbond78
What about the tens of thousands that agree with the 'official story'?
If there were explosives, where were the explosions?
RetSquid 1 year ago
are you old enough to be on the computer? where do you get your facts? why are you pulling up statistics on how others think? cant think for yourself?
purplekush604 1 year ago
@purplekush604
You seem to be the one looking at the opinion of a few people and think it's the truth. Can you form an independent thought? Did you know 'pull it' is not a term for explosive demolition? Do you know anything about physics?
Your answers should be no, no, no, because you are ignorant.
RetSquid 1 year ago
i make my own opinions based on my own basic knowledge...for example if you were to drop a penny from the top of the wtc it would roughly take a little under 10 seconds to hit the ground based on the laws of physics i rather not go into detail...the towers fell at about the same speed theres too many videos to say otherwise....the pancake theory cannot support this alone not mentioning the fact that steal doesnt collapse like pancakes....explain your theory without being IGNORANT of those facts
purplekush604 1 year ago
@purplekush604
Free fall from the distance would be just over 9 seconds, it took WTC1 almost 13 seconds and WTC2 almost 12 seconds.
***The Towers could not have fallen at free fall speed, you can watch as parts of the building fall FASTER than the main parts.***
RetSquid 1 year ago
how high was the remaining steel structure that was unnaffected from the plane or fire...13 seconds!!!! do you know how many floors the world trade center has? how wide across the buildings are? and your gonna say all this was destroyed because a plane crashed into it? look at the sixe of the plane compared to the building and tell me that its big enough to crush all that steel to dust
purplekush604 1 year ago
@purplekush604
You keep assuming things that don't exist. It was the planes and the fire that weakened the structure, gravity did the rest.
No steel was crushed to dust, you cannot turn steel to dust in the time frame with any type of force. Now, maybe you sped time up and made it all turn to rust THEN turned it to dust?
RetSquid 1 year ago
yea either that or there were explosives in the building...i believe it was the latter
purplekush604 1 year ago
@purplekush604
Except that no one saw any of the tons of explosives or miles of fuzes required.
Only a couple of windows were blown out from air pressure, none from explosions.
Are you going to tell me how some parts of the building fell faster than free fall?
RetSquid 1 year ago
Stop babbling about steel turning to dust. NO steel turned to dust. All of it was recovered.
You really don't have a clue about any of this, do you?
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
How can anyone know this? The structural elements were shipped from the site so quickly it was not possible to inventory the evidence left let alone examine it.
You are such an obvious shill.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
How anybody who brays so loudly be such an ignoramus? You are an uninformed liar promoting an evil cause. The steel lay around for months. You can make up bullshit for the amusement of the other kids, but it's still bullshit. The steel was thoroughly examined. You know nothing.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
@maskedphrogg
It was shipped across the rivir to the Fresh Kills land fill and later sold as scrap.
RetSquid 1 year ago
Wow! I knew China was large, but I had no idea it's shores lay just across the river from Manhattan.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
@maskedphrogg
You have very little knowlege about 9/11 don't you?
RetSquid 1 year ago
I doubt that you know anything at all about China. You certainly didn't know that the recovered steel lay around at Fresh Kills for months before some of it was shipped to China.
What else don't you know?
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
@RonaldWieck
Shh. Just shoot yourself. Please. For this world. I'd love to hear that a man name Ronald Wieck killed himself. Please do this. You are no use to this world. Please find the nearest lethal item and murder yourself. We do not need you in this life anymore.
ThomasRobertLea 1 year ago
Yes, you liars are certainly evil scumbags. I wish the worst imaginable fate for you: I wish that you be confined to a room full of science books and forced to read them.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
You're damn right you won't go into detail. The insane Judy Wood, who believes in imaginary energy weapons, posted a nonsensical chart years ago showing the fall of a penny. The towers did not fall at free fall: they fell roughly two-thirds as fast.
There is no "pancake theory"--you are living in 2005. When the external columns weakened and buckled, the floor trusses gave way. Once a global collapse ensued, the floors necessarily pancaked. You are confusing a result with a cause.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
afew people? where do you get your statistics because wherever you do i suggest you stop making decisions based on them... majority of people look to statistics for answers because people are like sheep following the herd. its far too easy to print false statistics and it would be ignorant of you not to think that the media would....
purplekush604 1 year ago
@purplekush604
You don't get it do you?
You Twoofers ARE THE SHEEP!!
You have been sold a bill of goods that defies logic.
RetSquid 1 year ago
How many squibs do you need to see preceding floor collapse?
Your Pancake Collapse theory has been debunked in numerous ways by multiple experts from the fields of physics, structural engineering, and demolition.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
@maskedphrogg
How many squids???
OH SQUIBS, how about one?
RetSquid 1 year ago
There were no squibs. You see bursts of compressed air in all the videos. Notice that the plume of ejected debris gradually expands, exactly the opposite of what you would see in an explosion. This is very old stuff.
There is no "pancake theory." No demolition experts swallow your evil movement's nonsense.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
Scary stuff huh?...Time to do something before we become the next round of sacrifices in the "Ultimate Plan".....Please, I urge everyone to look up and watch Zeitgeist. You won't be able to find it on Youtube so google it. Spread the word. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER and LACK OF KNOWLEDGE SUPPRESSES US AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO!
aks25aks 1 year ago
They have not at all gotten away with it... We have video cameras, we have the proof, now it's just time for people to acknowledge that it happened.
ThomasRobertLea 1 year ago
Gee, some of us have noticed that zero proof exists for your incredibly stupid fantasy. Get a life.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
Google " Operation Northwoods "
mackdoo814 2 years ago
No one demolishes a building and two enormous skyscrapers in front of people's eyes and gets away with it.
ThomasRobertLea 2 years ago
Of course not. We will pull them out when truth gradually emerge.
xingmowang 1 year ago
How will you do that? How can stupid America-hating liars cope with real engineers? The frauds who lead you morons by the nose, like David Ray Grifter and Gage, hustle bucks from imbeciles, but run away from debates with anyone who knows anything.
Your beloved jihadists remain proud of their victory, as you know.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
@ThomasRobertLea
Why are people giving thumbs down to my comment?
Do you actually think that^ isn't a demolition?
ThomasRobertLea 1 year ago
You are receiving negative marks because you are an ineducable dunce. Nobody who workss in the demolition industry swallows your stupid lies. There were no explosives anywhere in the WTC complex: evidence for them is nonexistent.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
i think they think you are denying it happened since they did get a away with it persay
smao22 1 year ago
Apparently one needs to bring down 3 skyscrapers in a single day right before thousands of passersby and with prominent MSM coverage b4 one gets away with it. See Sep 11, 2001 for example. Re: Bldgs 1,2, & 7 freefall to their ignominious destruction and subsequent investigation into causes is actively derided and impeded.
If you thought your comment was factual, you are wrong. If you thought your comment was ironic, your audience missed the irony.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
@maskedphrogg
It's Not about catching a couple of pricks. It's about the world opening its eyes.
ThomasRobertLea 1 year ago
I hardly see you aiding in that endeavor ThomasRobertLea while closing your own eyes.
I was replying as much, if not more so, to your question of being "thumbed down" (given negative feedback) for your OP
If you thought the comment (OP) was factual, it is not. If you intended to focus on the irony of the comment it is now plain that your audience finds no irony in the statement that the 3 towers (you didn't even get the bldg count correct) were demolished and the perps continue free from Justice
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
@maskedphrogg
Well I'm sorry but I live in the present and future. Where as you live in the present and the past. I know justice always unveils itself in one way or another, whether it be noticeable and in your face or not. Everything is an equilibrium. It's impossible to have a universe where something as negative September 11th isn't counterbalanced with positivity, in other words it's impossible that good will not come from this.Unfortunately this event happened,but you cant change the past
ThomasRobertLea 1 year ago
You live in a haze. You reach conclusions based on emotional impact. Your opinion has little value to those who respect facts and replicable theorem.
You keep wishing upon that star. But don't come crying when that star doesn't rescue you from the harm that comes your way while you weren't paying attention to your surroundings.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
You've been caught lying. There was no free fall. This myth is long dead.The massive multi-agency investigation was not impeded by anyone or anything. The 9/11 Commission, by the way, was NOT the investigation.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
How is the manner in which World Trade Center Bldgs 1,2 & 7 fell to the ground on Sep 11, 2001 distinguishable from free fall?
Keep in mind there were literally thousands of eye witnesses and dozens of videographers. Your mere denial brings no veracity to evidence we *have* all seen b4 RonaldWieck stepped out to lie about it.
What does the 9/11 Commission have to do with any comment I made? What kind of shill makes such obvious mistakes in attribution?
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
The collapses took demonstrably longer than free fall. That is a significant difference. Try an experiment. Imagine you are not an anonymous troll on a tiny blog. You are debating one of NIST's structural engineers. You make the novel claim that WTC 7 was not hit by tons of debris that ripped a 20-story gash in the south side. He shows you the photos and points out that nobody disputes the fact the building was heavily damaged and the fires were started by falling debris. What's your next trick?
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
You sir, should take your own advice.
My claim is neither novel nor extraordinary.
Maybe if you left the safety and comfort of your hobbit hole and exposed yourself to the reality of the world around you would find you could survive unpleasant truths.
Debunking your version of events of Sep 11, 2001 is an exercise in futility. It is obvious now that there is no end of fabrications you are willing to bring to bear in this feeble attempt to support your fantasy.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
@maskedphrogg
"Debunking your version of events of Sep 11, 2001 is an exercise in futility"
That's because your CAN'T debunk the truth.
There was no Controlled Demolition.
RetSquid 1 year ago
Ronald has company in his hobbit hole.
Doesn't it get cramped in there?
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
I have no "version" of the events of 9/11. I understand and accept the version demonstrated by the work of real structural engineers, physicists, metallurgists, fire safety experts, demolition professionals, computer programmers, air traffic controllers, avionics techs, crash investigators, and forensic examiners.
I have fabricated nothing. All of the absurd, thoroughly debunked myths you cling to are fabrications.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
You fabricate the duration of collapse, that evidence was not destroyed or removed from view immediately after in an attempt to hide it and that there is no evidence of demolition material on site.
You're a shill and your comprehension of science and settled issues leaves you defenseless so you often resort to name calling and polemics to support your imaginary theories.
You claim support by struc eng.s, physicists, demo experts etal. yet have not read the testimony given by such experts at all.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
More stupid lies from a very stupid liar. NOBODY can "fabricate" the collapse times because YOU CAN TIME THEM FOR YOURSELF, idiot!
NOBODY removed "evidence." The structural steel was trucked away in a process that took weeks. NO evidence for demolition was found--no detonator cord, no wiring, no chemical signatures on the steel, no seismic evidence, no sounds of blasts on auditory records.
Stop babbling about imaginary "shills" (nobody pays anybody to post on tiny blogs).
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
@maskedphrogg
How long do YOU think it took the Towers to fall?
RetSquid 1 year ago
Roughly equivalent to Free Fall. There is a multitude of video evidence to back my claim. Whereas you and Ronald have only supposition.
iow if one supposes that events occurred as you claim then one is forced to ignore all the physical evidence and recordings of the event taken during the event.
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
You've been caught lying. The towers fell at roughly two-thirds of free fall. Nobody disagrees because anybody can time the collapses for himself.
The recordings you stupidly refer to are the ones that contain no auditory evidence of a demolition. The physical evidence you claim does not exist. There is zero physical evidence for the use of explosives.
How can you bluff people who know so much more than you do?
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
name of song?
jamezbond78 2 years ago
Like the Gulf of Tonkin Incident
That the younger may not know is the LIE that got us to declare war on Vietnam.
Everybody knows it now, government has admited it.
"Remember the Maine" That one got us in the Spanish American War. That lie got us Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, where we keep the terrorist. Of course now we know the Maine blew up when a coal fire they had been trying to put out since leaving New York, got to a ammo compartment. It was a accident put to good use.
QUESTION EVERYTHING!
MrWhatthehell911 2 years ago 4
Nobody lied. Seamen in heavy seas overreacted to blips on their radar screens. LBJ himself wasn't persuaded that they had been attacked, but cynically exploited their confusion to ram through legislation he desired.
You are, of course, lying when you pretend otherwise.
Remember, as long as honest people still how to read, your evil movement can't peddle its falsehoods.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
Who is that guy at the end talking about american gladiators? Kinda want to check out some of his stuff.....
jasonkruger1313 2 years ago
That's comedian Bill Hicks!
NoVuM9 2 years ago 4
oh, u alrdy answered... lol
seemeno1 2 years ago
@NoVuM9 and hes dead now..been dead for a while...
thekennady 2 years ago
bill hicks
seemeno1 2 years ago
the world trade center was the first building in history to collapse due to structural failure caused by fire, not mentioning its one of the largest buildings in the world and it did not just collapse but came down in less than 10 seconds just about freefall speed. their was a smaller building that collapsed which was not on fire at all . their is abundant evidence and peoples testimony suggesting that bombs went off before the plane ever made contact.
purplekush604 2 years ago 6
RonaldWieck is a moron or a pawn of the google sent to confuse people
purplekush604 2 years ago
Ronald Wieck is a rationalist who takes great delight in exposing stupid fact-free liars promoting an evil movement.
Remember, you have NOTHING but your thoroughly debunked fantasies and your mindless hatred of America.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
what? structural failure cause by fire... you must not even read, you only listen to what one idiot tells you as long as he sounds smart. There were castles burned down in the medieval times, i have heard of plenty of structural failure problems when it comes to big buildings. and remember, the twin towers were tall, not large. coming down so fast was inevitable.
seemeno1 2 years ago
by building i meant steal structure, my mistake. and if you know about the laws of physics the buildings falling that fast is physically impossible unless it was a demolition. i actually think for myself and to be trying to take away from my credibility as you defend the initail story on this video, it would have to be your intelligence that would be called into questioning. how can you watch this viddeo alone and not see the truth?
purplekush604 2 years ago 2
You know nothing about physics or demolition. People who are experts in both fields disagree with your nonsense.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago 2
its clear that all ronald has to say ignores all common sense and reasoning....what kind of abuse pushes someone to troll a 911 related video with no purpose but to try to hide and ignore truth...how can you have posted as many comments as you have over something as simple as... a gigantic building turning to dust and what could have caused that? YOU ARE POSSESSED BY STUPIDITY
purplekush604 1 year ago
@purplekush604
"kind of abuse pushes someone to troll a 911 related video with no purpose but to try to hide and ignore truth..."
Why are you talking about yourself?
RetSquid 1 year ago
You are far too unintelligent to use reason and far too ignorant to command any facts. No building turned to dust. The dust was gypsum wallboard. ALL the structural steel was recovered. You have been lied to by the unscrupulous frauds who exploit your irrational hatred of America. The collapses were caused by the impacts of the planes and the resultant fires, fires that could not be fought.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
how could the steal be recovered? that would mean that the building either never was demolished or that the steal fell like a deck of cards....if steal was there it wouldnt have collapsed....STEAL DOES NOT COLLAPSE! how about the molten metal at the base of the towers after the "fall" probably just made from the friction of wallboard right? wtc 7 alone is too big to fall into its own silhouette and you really believe that both trade centers did the same....whats wrong with you?
purplekush604 1 year ago
@purplekush604
"STEAL" may not collapse, but steel sure does.
What 'molten metal'?
Do you have any proof that there was literally molten metal?
RetSquid 1 year ago
i dont think you have much experience in the construction industry or knoledge that these buildings were some of the most well engineered structures known to man
theres enough video evidence for me to see melting steel....fire doesnt do that...nor does fire travel down a collapsing building
purplekush604 1 year ago
@purplekush604
I don't think you have any experience with logic.
I'll ask you again, HOW DID THE OUTER PARTS OF THE WTC FALL FASTER THAN FREE FALL SPEED? That is assuming you are right about the WTC falling that fast.
RetSquid 1 year ago
nothing can fall faster than freefall speed. i thought you were the physicist.
the buildings fell at nearly free fall speed that should be evidence enough that explosives had to be used to blast away the steel holding up the building....the whole thing came down in one go...not a little fell here...a little fell there...but BOOOM all gone..then the next building BOOOM all gone.and then out of nowhere you see WTC 7 fall while the top is still in tact(clearly a demolishion)
purplekush604 1 year ago
nothing can fall faster than freefall speed. i thought you were the physicist.
the buildings fell at nearly free fall speed that should be evidence enough that explosives had to be used to blast away the steel holding up the building....the whole thing came down in one go...not a little fell here...a little fell there...but BOOOM all gone..then the next building BOOOM all gone.and then out of nowhere you see WTC 7 fall while the top is still in tact(clearly a demolishion)
purplekush604 1 year ago
nothing can fall faster than freefall speed. i thought you were the physicist.
the buildings fell at nearly free fall speed that should be evidence enough that explosives had to be used to blast away the steel holding up the building....the whole thing came down in one go...not a little fell here...a little fell there...but BOOOM all gone..then the next building BOOOM all gone.and then out of nowhere you see WTC 7 fall while the top is still in tact
purplekush604 1 year ago
You've been caught lying. There was no melting steel. No fire traveled "down" a collapsing building. You haven't the slightest idea of what you're talking about.
Tell us why NO demolition professionals are fooled by your evil movement's lies.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
search "molten steel ground zero" and tell me im lying
purplekush604 1 year ago
You're lying. The liars who have tricked you have been refuted. None of the people who are cited as having seen molten "steel" are capable of distinguishing it from other molten metals. Mark Loizeaux has corrected the conspiracy liars many times, but they keep repeating their falsehoods.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
@RonaldWieck
Did you see the quotes on their website about "beams of molten steel"??
If it's molten how can it be a 'beam'?
RetSquid 1 year ago
They know nothing, they refuse to learn anything, and they love to hear themselves rant nonsense.
Debating with angry, low-IQ adolescents is futile.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
@RonaldWieck
But they are good for a laugh!!
RetSquid 1 year ago
@purplekush604
I did...you're lying.
Why don't you google it and pick the first one.."Debunking911"...read it then get back to me.
RetSquid 1 year ago
There were pits of it in the footprint of the bldg a week after the event. Photographs and Video are available. Do I need to hold your hand and walk you through gaining access to this material?
For now I'll leave you with the idea that Google is your friend for in the immortal words of Batman
"I gotta go to work"
maskedphrogg 1 year ago
There was no molten steel. Your myth is dead.
No demolition in history has ever produced molten steel, so what is your point?
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
no fire in history has ever destroyed millions of tons of steel..the only thing that could have done that much damage is thermite explosives..you seem to ignore evidence that proves your falsifying information. i was being sarcastic by justifying hitlers actions as you justify the slaughter of thousands of innocent every year because of the decisions made by the US government.israely soldiers slaughter palestinians everyday funded by the same country that invades its enemys and collects its oil
purplekush604 1 year ago
All the structural steel was recovered. Much of it was damaged, but it was not "destroyed." There was considerably less than "millions of tons" of steel in the towers (about 300,000 tons).
Thermite is not an explosive; it is an incendiary. It has no use in demolition. Nobody has yet figured out a way to make thermite cut across a horizontal column.
You've been caught lying about oil. America buys its oil at market price. It's time to abandon this myth.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
i read some of the stuff debunking explosion theories and all it said in the most complicated way was that a plane hitting the building and burning the top floors is enough energy to "loosen the connections" of steel and cause the building to fall as fast as it did. instead of confusing yourself with high school level physics problems with interchangeable variables it should be obvious that steel conections dont weaken to the point of colapse. never have before and especially not to that extent
purplekush604 1 year ago 14
Yes, of course. Why believe the thousand physicists, metallurgists, structural engineers, and fire safety experts consulted by NIST? Why believe the engineers at the ASCE journal, or the FEMA group? Why believe the Purdue or Berkeley simulation teams? Why believe independent researchers like Dr. Bazant, or Dr. Greening, or Dr. Astaneh?
You don't need these nasty scientists with their inconvenient facts. You can pull stupid nonsense out of your ass.
(Steel weakens in fires. Ask a blacksmith.)
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
@RonaldWieck
whatever dude, you win, it was all muslim terrorists.. now go away
keep on denying
ThomasRobertLea 1 year ago
Yes, it really was all Muslim terrorists. The Khobar Towers, the African embassies, the USS Cole--all of them the work of Muslim terrorists. As the Muslim terrorists themselves don't deny their acts of war, why on earth do you?
You cling to mad fantasies for which not a shred of evidence exists, yet you charge rationalists backed by a mountain of evidence with being in denial. Very odd.
RonaldWieck 1 year ago
@RonaldWieck
Good combination of words. Keep on denying.
ThomasRobertLea 1 year ago
@RonaldWieck "The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US . . ." -- Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook
scorpio881 1 year ago 13
@scorpio881
Wow, NO ISLAMIC terror group called AL QAEDA?
You should tell that to the hundreds dead around Mumbai, in India,
Or, the hundreds dead around the Spanish Train system in Madrid,
Or, the hundreds that COULD have been dead in the UK, if the 7/7
plots had not been stopped, or the hundreds dead in AFRICA,
at Darfur, or Somalia, or the 5 African nations who had their US
embassies attacked, Saudia Arabia, Chechen, and Russian
mass murders chime in also. Who the fuck are you?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Apparently you didn't notice, that I was quoting Robin Cook, the former British Foreign secretary. I'm not exactly sure what to think of it myself, but that quote is pretty heavy from an ex-politician...
scorpio881 1 year ago
@scorpio881
Why, do you think politicians are all in some sort of club?
Maybe, that's why he is an EX politician.
Say, did you ever come up with an explanation for all those
FOREIGN attacks by AL QAEDA?
Because it SHOULD have occurred to you, that EACH year
since 2001, that ALQAEDA exists, and attacks OTHER
nations, and the US, will make DOUBLE the assenine
Moron level you reached years ago?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Personal attacks in the second comment already. This starts well... I don't like to speculate, so I'll admit straight away that I have no idea, who it might have been or what they're doing. And I'm not really saying that Al Qaeda doesn't exist at all on the face of the earth. I've just watched this one interesting documentary, that basically says, that Al Qaeda isn't what people claim it to be, but as I've already said, I haven't looked into this enough to make proper conclusions yet.
scorpio881 1 year ago
@scorpio881
Here is a video TOGETHER OF AL ZAWAHIRI, and Osama Bin Laden.
HERE they are greeting the future Hijackers in Pakistan.
watch?v=dx2PhQ7nlis
HERE they are taking credit for the 9/11 attacks.
Al Zawahiri, in April 2002, with OBL
watch?v=1kqpZGBOKZQ&feature=related
SO, I believe that's before and after.
Isn't it?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 What about Al Zawahiri? Yeah, they're sitting together and Al Zawahiri is babbling away some fundamentalist stuff. So? And how do YOU know that those soldier boys who were parcticing etc. on the film are the hijackers? Where did it say so on the film? Can you recognice some of the hijackers there? It seems more like your own, rash assertions to me. Now that you'd given me your "evidence", I'd like you to watch this: /watch?v=r-hYorNi0nA
scorpio881 1 year ago
@scorpio881
LOL, those are NOT soldiers, they are terrorists.
They wear no uniform, they represent NO COUNTRY.
Nobody can be held accountable for their actions.
DUH, That's the POINT.
IF you watched the film, the NAMES of the Hijackers
are there, ON THE SCREEN, under their LIVE
speech / last testament. LOL, admit you are ADHD,
and never watched the entire film, it's YOUR enemy,
too, and I make NO rash assertions.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@scorpio881
AS FOR YOUR VIDEO, sorry, JACK. It makes several basic mistakes.
1. Al Zawahiri and OBL published FATWAS against the american
people in 1998, using AL SHAHAB to garner press and attention.
Famous at the time, and BEFORE this BBC documentary aired.
They try to say they were disorganized, but in 1998, they had 10
year combat veterans, lawyers in Saudi arabia, Charity funding,
TWO Nations to shelter them, and a PR wing able to publish
FATWAS. Sounds organized to me.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 I'd really like to know about your information sources. They wrote a couple of anti-american fatwas years ago... So what? Where's the evidence that they are now LEADING A MILITARILY ORGANIZED group of soldiers. It's funny how you believe it's Osama Bin laden behind the 9/11 attacks with such fervour, when even FBI admits that they have no hard evidence connecting him to those attacks.
scorpio881 1 year ago
Merlin5x5 1 year ago