1. Prove Macroevolution (not the observable microevolution that Darwin discovered, but the mutation of one species to another) 2. Is the tree you're referring to the one in Nebuchanezzar's DREAM?! and 3. Why post a video for trolls (i.e. the three comments below mine....)?
1. You are an ape. Examples of mutations splitting species into new species are numerous, and we are no exception. Like us, chimps are apes but not the same species as us.
2. Yes, and if you dismiss the message an contents of biblical dreams, you should do the same with Paul and pretty much the entire book of Revelation.
3. I just discovered that those comments were there.
@Feredir28 1. Could you provide an example so that I can research it myself? 2. You aren't dismissing it if Daniel interpreted it in the same chapter. Daniel 4:1-27 Revelation isn't a dream. It was the best way John could describe what he was seeing, because of the technology difference between then and whenever the end of the world is. 3. Yeah, if you mention God or politics anywhere on youtube trolls are sure to follow.
@LivingCorpse777 1. What you want to look up specifically is "Speciation" - the term biologists use to reveal the arrival of new species. Quick example:. Lycaon pictus, the African dog, is not a dog. The Aardwolf looks like a fox, but it is more related to cats. I will send you a few academic papers to look at.
2. Revelation is inscribed from flows of visions (basically it is one big acid trip). Paul's letters are written due to his dreams and visions.
How to debate a creationist: don't. Seriously, it saves time. Devout creationists will never change their minds, no matter how much evidence you give them.
um..hi..I have evidence if you would like to know the details of how the lord god (bless be he) created the earth...there actually biblical references :)......Book of Jubilees..Genesis which you already know about..life of adam and eve..Books of enoch...there are a few others as well..I would really tell you not to sek out christians for christ(bless be he) but seek out christ for christ (bless be he)..due to the fact some christians aren't truly christians..seek and you shall find :)
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE, because of entropy, could not have sustained itself eternally. Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living, reproducing if their reproductive system, vital structures, and organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
BLIND WATCHMAKER NO ARGUMENT. Natural selection is no "blind watchmaker" because it can only "select" from traits having survival value. It doesn't produce those traits. It only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't be involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it living! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation (ICR) Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. ICR scientists have written excellent articles on "Vestigial" Structures, Fossils, Genetics, Mutations, "Junk DNA," Natural Selection, Age of The Earth, Dinosaurs and The Bible, etc., etc. Just peruse their articles archive.
DEBATE IS NOT OVER. In Darwin's time not enough science was known to refute macro-evolution. There was no understanding of genetics. Darwin thought the cell was just a simple glob. No one knew about DNA, RNA, proteins. Modern evolutionists now know, but the theory is entrenched as gospel and a lot of personal motives are at stake as well. Just saying that something evolved doesn't make it so! Schools should present both sides! Read my article WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from an ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from a four-legged dog-like creature. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature can only work with the "cards" it has. Nature is not a genetic engineer! It can't invent new genes. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
GENETIC INFORMATION DOESN'T HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS
I just subscribed, because I happened to stumble upon your channel. I was at the "Magic Sandwich Show" yesterday and for most of the duration of the NephilimFree speel. I noticed that whenever Nephy was backed into a corner, he quickly "changed the subject." He did this over and over again. That's his strategy.
My purpose here is NOT to prove anything you but to tell you about the Gospel, the good news from God because one day in your life you may turn to Him. Explaining God to you is the same as explaining light to a person born blind or to describe the taste of chocolate to one who has never tasted. You have been born blind - spiritually and morally. It’s impossible for you to comprehend or even imagine God, heaven or hell. Your brain cannot compute this information so it rejects it.
there is no info to reject, since it does not exist. If you are not here, or never were here, to prove squat, then your basis for religion does not have a leg to stand on. You claims are pointless and unproven, instead you rather label people as evil and immoral, pushing people away from religion. Then when a person like me comes along providing actual evidence to support my claims, it only further pushes people away from religion. No wonder religion is dying in America.
There is NOTHING great about religion. It was the "Sanhedrin" -the religious leaders of the day---who insisted Christ be crucified for blasphemy. Guess what...no one remembers whp those religious leaders were but Jesus Christ reigns supreme and will until the Rapture. At this point the atheist shall have the entire world along with all the false relgions. The TRIBULATION will not be a time of fun and frolic.
(part 2) The real reason why you cannot provide proof, and never could, is because there is no proof for you to provide. That is clearly obvious with the long debates with you for months, and as I stated in this video, when you have nothing else all you do is throw Bible verses at us.
oh..by the way, i tried to debate a creationist through phone.. and he said that, bible will not be written, if it was really not happened... later i'll call him, and ask him to prove it.. like u''ve said. let see wat happen next. [just practicing]
@Feredir28 I don't want to rain on your parade too much, but if the core of the earth was a (very) massive nutrino core (doesn't have to be a black hole) it would bend light in such a way that a high enought tree, could be seen from the other side of the world.
now another problem with your tree thing, is that IT WAS A FUCKING DREAM!!!
I'd like to see that tactic applied. If you know of videos of debates that went that way, please post video titles of IDs. But I'd be careful about the Daniel quote. I looked it up out of curiosity. Turns out that that stuff happened in a dream.
Oh I am well aware about that verse. But remember, this is coming from a society who views of a flat earth, even preached by the first church fathers. Visions were often taken seriously, such as Paul only saw jesus in a vision.
It also shows that much of the content of the Bible is mostly fiction.
We know the universe could come about through naturalistic ways, but saying "look at that" is not evidence or even scientific. Just looking and picking is not testing, nor does it show how the universe came into being.
"X, Y, Z looks created" could have been created by elves, but just saying 'look around' provides no empirical evidence, just assumptions and wishful thinking.
@Feredir28 Yeah true. It will come down to that or, 'it's in the bible' but it probably is a better tactic in the long run than arguing against 'evolution is only a theory' .
Alakazan not Hocus Pocus! :)
MisterTutor2010 4 weeks ago
1. Prove Macroevolution (not the observable microevolution that Darwin discovered, but the mutation of one species to another) 2. Is the tree you're referring to the one in Nebuchanezzar's DREAM?! and 3. Why post a video for trolls (i.e. the three comments below mine....)?
LivingCorpse777 1 month ago
@LivingCorpse777
1. You are an ape. Examples of mutations splitting species into new species are numerous, and we are no exception. Like us, chimps are apes but not the same species as us.
2. Yes, and if you dismiss the message an contents of biblical dreams, you should do the same with Paul and pretty much the entire book of Revelation.
3. I just discovered that those comments were there.
Feredir28 1 month ago
@Feredir28 1. Could you provide an example so that I can research it myself? 2. You aren't dismissing it if Daniel interpreted it in the same chapter. Daniel 4:1-27 Revelation isn't a dream. It was the best way John could describe what he was seeing, because of the technology difference between then and whenever the end of the world is. 3. Yeah, if you mention God or politics anywhere on youtube trolls are sure to follow.
LivingCorpse777 1 month ago
@LivingCorpse777 1. What you want to look up specifically is "Speciation" - the term biologists use to reveal the arrival of new species. Quick example:. Lycaon pictus, the African dog, is not a dog. The Aardwolf looks like a fox, but it is more related to cats. I will send you a few academic papers to look at.
2. Revelation is inscribed from flows of visions (basically it is one big acid trip). Paul's letters are written due to his dreams and visions.
3. Thanks.
Feredir28 1 month ago
How to debate a creationist: don't. Seriously, it saves time. Devout creationists will never change their minds, no matter how much evidence you give them.
TheManMostMysterious 2 months ago
um..hi..I have evidence if you would like to know the details of how the lord god (bless be he) created the earth...there actually biblical references :)......Book of Jubilees..Genesis which you already know about..life of adam and eve..Books of enoch...there are a few others as well..I would really tell you not to sek out christians for christ(bless be he) but seek out christ for christ (bless be he)..due to the fact some christians aren't truly christians..seek and you shall find :)
TyrellTLyles 2 months ago
Your just rambling...
flatpicker1234 2 months ago
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
Mogley52 6 months ago
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SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE, because of entropy, could not have sustained itself eternally. Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living, reproducing if their reproductive system, vital structures, and organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
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BLIND WATCHMAKER NO ARGUMENT. Natural selection is no "blind watchmaker" because it can only "select" from traits having survival value. It doesn't produce those traits. It only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't be involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it living! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 6 months ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation (ICR) Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. ICR scientists have written excellent articles on "Vestigial" Structures, Fossils, Genetics, Mutations, "Junk DNA," Natural Selection, Age of The Earth, Dinosaurs and The Bible, etc., etc. Just peruse their articles archive.
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DEBATE IS NOT OVER. In Darwin's time not enough science was known to refute macro-evolution. There was no understanding of genetics. Darwin thought the cell was just a simple glob. No one knew about DNA, RNA, proteins. Modern evolutionists now know, but the theory is entrenched as gospel and a lot of personal motives are at stake as well. Just saying that something evolved doesn't make it so! Schools should present both sides! Read my article WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 6 months ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from an ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from a four-legged dog-like creature. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 6 months ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature can only work with the "cards" it has. Nature is not a genetic engineer! It can't invent new genes. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 6 months ago
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GENETIC INFORMATION DOESN'T HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS
Mogley52 6 months ago
I kept expecting you to talk about the army of the 12 monkeys :)
TheRationalizer 1 year ago
I just subscribed, because I happened to stumble upon your channel. I was at the "Magic Sandwich Show" yesterday and for most of the duration of the NephilimFree speel. I noticed that whenever Nephy was backed into a corner, he quickly "changed the subject." He did this over and over again. That's his strategy.
Hereticbooks 1 year ago
oh my! that was very good!
Hereticbooks 1 year ago
My purpose here is NOT to prove anything you but to tell you about the Gospel, the good news from God because one day in your life you may turn to Him. Explaining God to you is the same as explaining light to a person born blind or to describe the taste of chocolate to one who has never tasted. You have been born blind - spiritually and morally. It’s impossible for you to comprehend or even imagine God, heaven or hell. Your brain cannot compute this information so it rejects it.
bornagain001 1 year ago
@bornagain001
there is no info to reject, since it does not exist. If you are not here, or never were here, to prove squat, then your basis for religion does not have a leg to stand on. You claims are pointless and unproven, instead you rather label people as evil and immoral, pushing people away from religion. Then when a person like me comes along providing actual evidence to support my claims, it only further pushes people away from religion. No wonder religion is dying in America.
Feredir28 1 year ago
@Feredir28
There is NOTHING great about religion. It was the "Sanhedrin" -the religious leaders of the day---who insisted Christ be crucified for blasphemy. Guess what...no one remembers whp those religious leaders were but Jesus Christ reigns supreme and will until the Rapture. At this point the atheist shall have the entire world along with all the false relgions. The TRIBULATION will not be a time of fun and frolic.
bornagain001 1 year ago
@bornagain001
(part 2) The real reason why you cannot provide proof, and never could, is because there is no proof for you to provide. That is clearly obvious with the long debates with you for months, and as I stated in this video, when you have nothing else all you do is throw Bible verses at us.
Feredir28 1 year ago
@Feredir28 "You mean like how fossils, tree rings and ice layers prove the age of the earth?"
bornagain001 1 year ago
This whole Universe wasn't created in 7 days. It was created in 6. Read your Bible.
bornagain001 1 year ago
@bornagain001
Then prove a 6 day creation.
Feredir28 1 year ago
oh..by the way, i tried to debate a creationist through phone.. and he said that, bible will not be written, if it was really not happened... later i'll call him, and ask him to prove it.. like u''ve said. let see wat happen next. [just practicing]
1995faith 1 year ago
my god.. thanks a lot to YOU.. wooo, hope i can win the debate on monday, (i know i can..bcuz of your tips) :)) thank u.
1995faith 1 year ago
@1995faith
Im glad to help. If you need more, let me know.
I also left a great site in the description to debate a creationist, check it out.
Feredir28 1 year ago
That thing about the tree being seen by everyone only would work if the world was flat. which is what they thought back then and were wrong.
mrx0066600 1 year ago
@mrx0066600
Exactly. There is no way a tree can be seen everywhere on a spherical body, but on a flat plane sure.
Feredir28 1 year ago
@Feredir28 I don't want to rain on your parade too much, but if the core of the earth was a (very) massive nutrino core (doesn't have to be a black hole) it would bend light in such a way that a high enought tree, could be seen from the other side of the world.
now another problem with your tree thing, is that IT WAS A FUCKING DREAM!!!
eyallev 5 months ago
I'd like to see that tactic applied. If you know of videos of debates that went that way, please post video titles of IDs. But I'd be careful about the Daniel quote. I looked it up out of curiosity. Turns out that that stuff happened in a dream.
garouHH 1 year ago
@garouHH
Oh I am well aware about that verse. But remember, this is coming from a society who views of a flat earth, even preached by the first church fathers. Visions were often taken seriously, such as Paul only saw jesus in a vision.
It also shows that much of the content of the Bible is mostly fiction.
Feredir28 1 year ago
Here's how I do it.
Creationist - *makes a single sound, not even a word yet*
Me - Wrong
I win because whatever they were going to say is wrong
EssentialPedagogy 1 year ago
Spike did one, You did one...Fuck, now I have to do one ¬_¬
I've got a fair bit of experience from debating TruthfulChristian, so I guess I'll go with that. =P
RyuOni1989 1 year ago
@RyuOni1989
LoL. Yeah, some great experience and well thought out arguments......Pinecones
;p
Feredir28 1 year ago
I think when I say, 'prove creation' I'm going to get a lot of 'well, look around you, at the wonders of the universe'.
AuntieDiluvian 1 year ago
@AuntieDiluvian
We know the universe could come about through naturalistic ways, but saying "look at that" is not evidence or even scientific. Just looking and picking is not testing, nor does it show how the universe came into being.
"X, Y, Z looks created" could have been created by elves, but just saying 'look around' provides no empirical evidence, just assumptions and wishful thinking.
Feredir28 1 year ago
@Feredir28 Yeah true. It will come down to that or, 'it's in the bible' but it probably is a better tactic in the long run than arguing against 'evolution is only a theory' .
AuntieDiluvian 1 year ago
@AuntieDiluvian
ahh, you gotta love that argument. It already shows you have the high ground when it comes to science.
Feredir28 1 year ago
Lol Aron Ra.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140
Dammit, my cover is blown.
Yes I am Aron Ra. I have solved the mystery to time travel.
Feredir28 1 year ago
''the Jatravartid people of Viltvodle VI believe that the
entire Universe was in fact sneezed out of the nose of a being
called the Great Green Arkleseizure.''
The Jatravartids, who live in perpetual fear of the time they
call The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief, are small blue
creatures with more than fifty arms each, who are therefore
unique in being the only race in history to have invented the
aerosol deodorant before the wheel.
Vogter2100 1 year ago