@Fordtrucksown The foul occurred after the HUGE double-dribble; if you look closely at 0:05 seconds, you can see clearly see he picked up the dribble at the three point line for no reason. Either way, he got away with it!
@slmnsulaimon Yes, he picked up the ball, however, I would say that a double dribble isn't a double dribble until you actually dribble it, which was undoubtedly after the foul.
this is a travel, for those who say it isn't. double dribble/carry/three steps or more/moving of the pivot foot/ etc. all fall under the violation of a travel, in high school, college, and the nba. in general refs call a travel to be general, but specifically in this situation like above would be an obvious double dribble which is also a travel. if you read the nba violation code you could find it there
@qubemaster@qubemaster just because it is signaled differently doesnt mean it doesn't fall under the same code, it is apparent you did not read the violation code of the nba, and second of all, you insult someone over the internet as if youre some tough guy, am i supposed to feel like im stupid now?
@whomiketrann Your insecurities are not my problem. I'm saying you are wrong, and you're still wrong. If you're butt hurt then get some Preparation H, don't come crying to me as if I hurt your feelings. I'm not your boyfriend.
@qubemaster LOL its ironic, cause youre the one going off with the insults and claiming to not be my boyfriend, as if you wanted to be, no thanks im not a homosexual. its okay if you can't handle the truth, im suprised you know what preparation H is, as if you used it before :) its nice talkin to ya kid. btw if you respond, ill just take it as if you're offended so don't bother responding. from a debate to an unnecessary insult, how mature you are.
@whomiketrann its double dribble. plus they are not the same thing. there is ball carrying,stepping errors,wrong dribbling etc...the actual travel here is ball carrying in by which you take steps without dribbling the ball
@netcap001 yes i understand, im not trying to say all violations are travel or that they're the same thing, im saying any violation that involves improper continuation is a form of a travel, not saying that double dribble would be a carry or vice versa. in this situation could be called a double dribble or a carry, but i would surely concur with you that its a carry
@MegaHighlightReel Look at the nearest ref. He's behind the play (because the NBA is full of old, out of shape refs). From his perspective, Farmar looks to have fouled or hit the ball.
Getting away with traveling is an art, it isn't luck. That, however, was just a terrible NO-CALL by the ref. I take 3 steps with the ball all the time, but I don't get called... You just have to know how to make it look smooth and under control. Pietrus didn't travel, he double dribbled.
Farmars just being lazy, its not basketball if you don't try to defend someone. It defeats the whole purpose of the game. Im glad Pietrus stuffed it in the lakers faces
FARMAR'S FOUL WAS WEAK...you can't call that....i think farmar was thinking of fouling pietrus but he decided no to coz pietrus was on the act of helding the ball for a layup already...and that would have been an early take off if pietrus took that ball and go straight for a lay up...that was a good decision by FARMAR...but pietrus didnt go for an early take off i guess.....hahahahahaha that was a good decision by pietrus too with LUCK...hahaha but look at that referee behind 0:13...crazy crazy
@CSLent i dont know if you've ever played organized basketball, but double dribble is a form of a travel, for example a carry would fall under a travel too.
@CSLent a double dribble is in the same category as travel. i think the 3 are, travel, double dribble, and up n down(which is mostly referred as traveling) but oh well.
HAHA THAT WHAT I CALLED REFS' HELPING. BUT YOU DIDNT HANDLE THAT WELL MAGIC. . . .well. . . And i am surprises the refs werent even protecting kobe, i would say how dare was that.
he reminds of lamar odom sometimes. great athleticity&skills, no brain-remember when odom inbounded the ball by dribbling? i could totally imagine pietrus doing the same thing
Turkolu or whatever his name is better put that tongue away. Everytime I see him pull that thing out after he hits a big shot they lose the game....lol
i think what had happen was pietrus thought the refs would call a foul on farmar so he picked up the ball and dribbled it again for fun. but the refs didn't call anything so it is a travel
The officials may have made the wrong call in that game. According to the official NBA rules, the foul must occur between the basket and an extension of the top of the circle in the backcourt. A clear path foul can occur in either the front court or the back court as long as there is no defensive player between the offense and the basket.
farmar didnt foul its a little touch come on its the nba pietrus picked up the ball before farmar touched him then was goin for another dribble as soon as farmar touched him its a clear double dribble
It's a clear intentional foul. You can't reach out and slap a player with both hands as they are on a free path to the basket. Farmar was trying to foul. That much is obvious. I agree that the double dribble was clear. So was the foul on Farmar. The foul came before the double dribble.
Farmar was not in front of the player going towards the basket. He intentionally fouled him to stop the play. This is the heart of a clear path foul. Pietrus had a breakaway from the backcourt. Farmar could not get in front of him in time and so he tried to foul to stop the play. According to the rules as stated, Orlando should have been awarded 2 shots and possession.
This is not the heart of a clear path foul. The entire point of a clear path foul is to prevent a defender who is out of the play from committing a foul to stop it. Farmar was in stride with Pietrus, but both players were far enough from the basket for him to meet Pietrus away from the rim rather than at the rim. Farmar is not behind the play, not by any rational metric, anyway.
I just replayed the video several times to make sure that your opening sentence was as meritless as I recalled from viewing it when I responded earlier. Your comment is so absurd as to be disregarded altogether. When Pietrus receives the ball a stride from halfcourt, Farmar is 5 feet beyond halfcourt. You don't have any idea what a clear path foul is.
If a fast break starts in a teams backcourt and a defender fouls any offensive player when the team is going to score an easy basket, a clear path foul has occurred. When the foul happens, no defender can be ahead of the ball where he could defend against the easy basket.
Um, dude, you are completely unhinged. Farmar is ahead of him all the way. What you are referring to as "behind the ball" is the most ridiculous fan subjectivity imaginable.
At 12 seconds the foul has already been committed. At 11 seconds, Farmar is directly to Pietrus's right, not behind him. He clearly reaches directly in front of himself to commit the foul. If he were behind, as you say, he would not be reaching directly in front of himself. This conversation is absurd.
You admit that Farmar is not in front of Pietrus when the foul is committed.
Once you admit that the fast break began in the back court and that Farmar was fouling to prevent an easy basket, you have met every condition for a Clear Path to the Basket foul.
You are either being willfully obtuse or are simply stupid. The conditions as laid out are not met.
1) Farmar, the person committing the foul, is the defender between the player and the basket. Pietrus does not have a clear path to the basket, as Farmar, who is to his right, is between him and the basket. The fact that Pietrus is on the wing makes his path to the basket TO HIS RIGHT, you nimrod...
... If Pietrus could run in a straight line and get to the basket, then the conditions are met. Pietrus can not run in a straight line and get to the basket. He MUST go right. Farmar is to his right. Farmar is also ahead of him when the fast break begins. The only conditions you have met for the rule are that 1) a foul occurred, and 2) it was on a fast break.
If Pietrus is going upcourt and Farmar is to his right, then Farmar is not between Pietrus and the basket. It is a simple matter of geometry. The rule states that there must be no defender between the ball and the basket. At no time is Farmar between the ball and the basket. He is running from the opposite side of the court and can never establish position in front of Pietrus. As a result, he tries to commit a foul to prevent an easy score.
I get it now. You are definitely willfully obtuse. If Pietrus is on the left wing, his only path to the basket is to his right. Farmar is in the center of the court, which means that in order to get to the basket unabated he must go through Farmar to get there, unless of course Farmar stops running, which is what your completely absurd point relies on. The very fact that Farmar is able to track Pietrus down 22 feet from the basket and is not behind him at any point prior to actually...
... committing the foul relegates your "point" to the garbage bin of internet mindlessness expelled en masse on a regular basis. Unless you are telling me that the basket is about 15 feet to the left of where it actually is, then Farmar is absolutely between the ball and the basket. This is like conversing with a child.
Again here are the conditions: a. There is no defender between the ball and the basket when the personal foul occurred. Draw line. Farmar is not between ball and basket when foul ocurs. b. Foul occurred past the tip of circle in backcourt no argument, correct? c. Team control was established no argument, correct? d. New play originated in the backcourt no argument, correct? e. The offended team was deprived of an opportunity to score an uncontested basket. The dunk went uncontested.
Farmar is between the ball and the basket when the foul occurs. All of the rest is irrelevant. The dunk went uncontested because the defender did not go to the basket, and instead met the ball 22 feet from the basket.
Which ball and basket are you talking about? During the play, Farmar is never between the ball and the basket. At least not the ball that Pietrus receives at halfcourt and the basket that he dunks on without any opposition.
It is the height of stupidity to in the same argument concede that Farmar committed a foul twenty-two feet from the basket - which would quite naturally end his participation in the play - and then attempt to discuss the fact that Pietrus goes on to dunk uncontested after that fact as having any meaning at all.
Not as stupid as saying that Farmar ran from the other side of the court in order to foul Pietrus on his side while at the same time being in front of Pietrus and between him and the basket. Idiocy at its peak.
This is the nice thing about discussing this on a page with the play in question in video form. Anyone with half a brain - this excludes you - is perfectly able to look right now and see that Farmar is in the center of the court when Pietrus receives the ball on the wing and is a good five feet further down the court.
Furthermore, anyone with even the vaguest hint of an understanding of NBA rules realizes this provides Farmar the luxury of fouling Pietrus before he ever gets to the basket.
Your completely childish reading of the rule would make it virtually impossible for any defender to ever defend a fast break in which he is not clearly several feet ahead of the ball at all times. Of course, the defender HAS TO MEET THE BALL at some point in the play, you tool. The pertinent question here, according to the rules, is whether Farmar is out of the play at any point. He is easily able to track the ball down and does not have to do so from behind.
No, it matters WHERE the foul occurs, not where the play started. Go back a few games where Ariza was fouled by Carmelo two steps over the half court line, and it wasn't called a clear path foul since it occured in the front court. Also, I don't know what you're watching but Farmar was way AHEAD of the ball first. Pietrus running forward and Farmar slowing down to foul equals Farmar ending up behind him on the foul.
Freeze frame at 6 and 11 seconds and you will see the intentional foul by Farmar to stop the easy basket. A dumb play since it should have resulted in a clear path to the basket foul since Farmar fouled from Pietrus right side and was not between Pietrus and the basket in a fast break play that originated in the back court.
The double dribble is unimportant as Pietrus would have received 2 free throws and the ball out of bounds.
A clear path foul is not called on a defender between the ball and the basket. Farmar is not behind the play, so it was not a clear path foul. Defenders foul players out on the floor all the time to keep them from getting a shot off. The play should have resulted in a foul, no free throws (because the Lakers were not in the penalty), and possession of the ball.
A clear-path-to-the-basket foul is called if a personal foul occurs (1) when the ball and an offensive player are positioned between the tip-of-circle extended in the backcourt and the basket in the frontcourt, with no defender between the ball and the basket, (2) the possession originates in the backcourt, including throw-ins, and (3) the foul deprives the offensive team of an opportunity to score.
2006 Rule: 2 free throw attempts and the ball on the sideline
The ref didn't have a good angle really on that. Obviously a missed call, but the ref was behind. They just can't run as fast as the players, sorry. Also, as many have stated already, the poster of this vid should learn the rules because it was a double dribble, not a travel.
this is why they need instant replays sometimes for refs in the nba like the nfl does. although its not really necessary since the nba is wayy faster than the nfl is. itd be a waste of time
You're absolutely right!! If you want to talk about bad calls just look at how many bailouts the lakers got in the 2nd half of Game 2 vs. the Magic. Unbelievable!
I love how people talk crap about Kobe getting away with calls. If you ignorant fans would actually WATCH Kobe, you would see he gets fouled throughout the game, with minimal calls actually made. Learn your basketball.
kobe is the biggest cry baby & you know that. He's also NBA's golden boy since 2000 season (replacing Jordan's popularity). OOh and during the Blazers & Kings series, if anybody touch kobe or Shaq by accident it was a foul (& freethrows). NBA sux since then.
Ya that's why kobe has been talking mess about all the crap he's gotten on the court? Are you joking? He's kept his mouth shut, and even made humorous comments about the poor, and even DIRTY play, towards him. Don't be ignorant.
You're lack of an argument and you're immature words just prove that you don't know what you're talking about. Bad calls have gone both ways, but if it's going to be a bad call, at least be consistent with it. Kobe has consistently been hammered and not received any help. It's obvious.
Well, my arguement happens to have live witness in jail, yes a referee who admitted to have helped the Lakers win championships (for him to win on gambling), you know who that is right? I mean your the basketball wise ass. Is that inmmature enough for you?
haha...it's not "inmmature" it's immature...and he didn't admit to helping the lakers, he admitted to cheating, he didn't say specifically...and of course people can't just admit who the better team is...like when the Celtics were clearly the better team last year. At least I have the dignity to admit when my team is the lesser of the 2.
Alright Webster,if you say you have dignity to admit a better team i believe you, coming from a Faker fan is a hard thing but if you say so.About the referee, he has admitted cheating specifically for game 6 vs the kings series, yes that crazy game in which lakers had doble the freethrows while kobe, Shaq & Fisher were throwing elbows desperately cause they were down by 10 with less than 4 minutes left. You can google it if don't believe.I know you love your faker team, but they won cheating.
Lakers fans root for their team. Non-Lakers fans root AGAINST the Lakers because they know their team is the lesser of the 2. Grow a pair and be positive for your team, not negative against another one because you have no balls. End of commentary.
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shut the fuck up little bitch. that was a travel and those idiot refs are with your hommo ass orlando team, thats why they won their little gay game 3.
If by bandwagon, you mean a fan since I was a kid, (mid to late 90's), then yes. If you mean bandwagon as in a fan of the lakers since they won back-to-back-to-back then no. I've been a Kobe fan since he got drafted, and a Lakers fan for just as long. 1996-1997 season.
he's also said he has fixed playoff games from 2000 to 2003 & won't not give more details. Is it coincidence that the lakers won all those years? You have to be too naive or stupid to believe that. NBA is fixed since 1999. It´s all business. You should know that, your the "wwise" guy.
If it's fixed why the fuck do you continue to watch it? Are you fuckin retarded because from reading your arguments it seems like it. The "fakers" the fuck does that mean? They fake being good that's hard to do. The teams not in the championship must be worse then or they're not faking. What the fuck are they faking, dumbass?
lol, don't get too grumpy stf, it's just a game & a very fixed game.I only watch my favorite players weather their on Boston or Minnesota.. it does not matter.I enjoy good basketball (college, European or NBA), but I don't care about results, specially NBA since the´re already fixed. For example, I enjoy watching kobe´s jumper but his defense sux as well as his crybaby attitude (like Gasol).The "Faker" is just an nickname to your team, why.. well I would say its cause their a bunch of posers.
How the fuck is it "good basketball" if you keep whining about it being fixed? You're obviously some dumb motherfucker who's mad cause his team lost. You need to shut the fuck up and quit bitching no one gives a flying fuck about your false accusations, anyone can claim that a team is cheating but it doesn't make it true. Quit responding because no one gives a shit.
Take that anger out stfu, lol. Listen, by "good basketball" I mean skills, individual basketball not games, cause as you know there is living proof that NBA(& it's refs) fixes games for the Faker team. Calm down Faker boy, it's only fixed games, lets enjoy the plays & the talent. No need for luck today for the Faker team as we all know refs will help them out again.(did you see that obvious miss call elbow to the face by kobego on a critical play, it's so obvious that it just make me laugh).
Faker team you mean the Lakers? and hmm...by good basketball of individual skills and talent. Kobe and his teammate gets no love? That doesn't sound like you base anything on skills or talents.
kobe might get some love from the Faker team but he's too egocentric, specially in the 4th quarter (& a true crybaby). Besides, he's a Jordan wanna be, he has nothing new to offer. The only players that I respect & get all the love are the ones that bring their own unique style & defend first before thinking to score. In today basketball, I can only find Garnett. (In the past: Only Scottie Pippen & Hakeem Olajuwon.. no, no Jordan)
haha....you're funny...if you're playing basketball....how could you add points on your team? tell me...is it BLOCK, STEAL or REBOUND?....don't make a shot? ? ? that's stupid right? when did you hear a team won because they had the most REBOUNDS, BLOCKS, STEALS but not SCORE??? HAHAHAHAHAHA STUPID!!!!
Nah all I see is a hating dumbass who's just angry because the lakers are the best. You have no proof. So you come up with terrible nicknames to insult their fans. You just can't deal with the fact that they're really good. Your ignorance makes me lol. (Did I mention that your nickname is almost as gay as you?)
ok, lets see when they meet Boston (healthy) again. Faker team got lucky Garnett was injured. Enjoy it while it last, Congratulations to the Faker team & his Refs.
la the faker team? somebodies already forgotten the performance paul peirce put on last year with "getting injured" and kg should get the fk over it and play, kobe's pinky was fked up and he missed ONE game when he got surgery on it
You still have no proof at all. You're just some fucking idiot 10 year old who comes up with gay nicknames. I can take confidence in saying you're the biggest dumbass I've ever spoken to.
dirty plays towards kobe? kobe has dealt out plenty of cheap shots in his career...he's elbowed at least 3 people in the face before in what he calls "his follow through"...im not a lakers fan though....but kobe does his share of dirty plays
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figo706 2 months ago
if u look closely here lebron travels
papaproduction 3 months ago
fuck the ref
jayjoetube14 5 months ago
The referee doesn't know what to call if its a foul or a travel.
arcywafu 6 months ago
YEAH RIGHT that referee is a fucking faggot the same referee that ejected duncan on game because of laughing !! :)
pololoka0821 7 months ago
double dribble and a carry.... refs didn't call it cause Lebron does it all the time so they have to call things equally for all players you know
Fliponator08 8 months ago 2
wtf haha that looked so retarded
Aptutte 9 months ago
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archarmy55 9 months ago 85
clearly shown at 0:10 Lebron traveled :P
jstafford81 9 months ago 4
@jstafford81 Lebron? what are you talking about?
gd129 9 months ago
@gd129 its a joke, did u not catch the :P
jstafford81 9 months ago
even yao ming can call that double drible
NBAChickenLover 9 months ago
Who Cares Lakers Still Won The Championship
PURE10RodrigoMercado 10 months ago
Actually double dribble is not the same as a travel... thats why the refs use 2 different hand signals stupid
MrBgroff 10 months ago
Double Dribble is a travel..anyone who plays basketball knows that.
TommyTonic10 10 months ago
who cares if its a double dribble, refs wouldve called a foul on farmar anyway
kleansr 10 months ago
Magic still lost da series
suns23phx 11 months ago
Not a travel. Double dribble. But yeah, he got away with that.
AlexanderRight 1 year ago
Ref just blind!
JasonDaiRR 1 year ago
Omfg...and this at finals :facepalm:
xLeBron1x 1 year ago
Dude that was some serious goaltending
Mexicanwine345 1 year ago
Oh lol.. Typical Nba player :)
TrustusT 1 year ago
lol almost more than a year now with all these double dribble comments and this dude hasnt changed the title yet -.-
patrickli804 1 year ago
Nice one joey crawford
Ownage4sure 1 year ago
Learned that one from Lebron
Eatyaface2008 1 year ago
woooooow that's terrible! LOL
kg21mack 1 year ago
Double Dribble.
koolkleankat 1 year ago
It doesnt matter he got away with it
ZayFiasco 1 year ago
hey dumb ass its double
fruit17cake 1 year ago
mmm, idk bout that one
Laker4life100 1 year ago
Oh My Gosh! How the hell did he get away with such a huge double-dribble?!
slmnsulaimon 1 year ago
@slmnsulaimon
The foul occurred before the double dribble, if anything was called there it should be the foul.
Fordtrucksown 1 year ago
@Fordtrucksown The foul occurred after the HUGE double-dribble; if you look closely at 0:05 seconds, you can see clearly see he picked up the dribble at the three point line for no reason. Either way, he got away with it!
slmnsulaimon 1 year ago
@slmnsulaimon Yes, he picked up the ball, however, I would say that a double dribble isn't a double dribble until you actually dribble it, which was undoubtedly after the foul.
Fordtrucksown 1 year ago
damn dude pietrus sucks, no handles
PROTOGgouki 1 year ago
Thats the best crossover ive ever seen! Hahaha wtf thats what i used to when i was three against my big bros.
MEGAM1OTCHB1OTCH 1 year ago
Haha, he thought he got fouled.
salohcinmiih 1 year ago
this is a travel, for those who say it isn't. double dribble/carry/three steps or more/moving of the pivot foot/ etc. all fall under the violation of a travel, in high school, college, and the nba. in general refs call a travel to be general, but specifically in this situation like above would be an obvious double dribble which is also a travel. if you read the nba violation code you could find it there
whomiketrann 1 year ago
@whomiketrann dribbling violations and stepping violations are signaled differently. You are an unbelievable moron.
qubemaster 1 year ago
@qubemaster @qubemaster just because it is signaled differently doesnt mean it doesn't fall under the same code, it is apparent you did not read the violation code of the nba, and second of all, you insult someone over the internet as if youre some tough guy, am i supposed to feel like im stupid now?
whomiketrann 1 year ago
@whomiketrann Your insecurities are not my problem. I'm saying you are wrong, and you're still wrong. If you're butt hurt then get some Preparation H, don't come crying to me as if I hurt your feelings. I'm not your boyfriend.
qubemaster 1 year ago
@qubemaster LOL its ironic, cause youre the one going off with the insults and claiming to not be my boyfriend, as if you wanted to be, no thanks im not a homosexual. its okay if you can't handle the truth, im suprised you know what preparation H is, as if you used it before :) its nice talkin to ya kid. btw if you respond, ill just take it as if you're offended so don't bother responding. from a debate to an unnecessary insult, how mature you are.
whomiketrann 1 year ago
You said it first homo. I could care less if you were a girl or a guy. Like I said if you're butt hurt don't cry here on youtube.
qubemaster 1 year ago
@whomiketrann its double dribble. plus they are not the same thing. there is ball carrying,stepping errors,wrong dribbling etc...the actual travel here is ball carrying in by which you take steps without dribbling the ball
netcap001 1 year ago
@netcap001 yes i understand, im not trying to say all violations are travel or that they're the same thing, im saying any violation that involves improper continuation is a form of a travel, not saying that double dribble would be a carry or vice versa. in this situation could be called a double dribble or a carry, but i would surely concur with you that its a carry
whomiketrann 1 year ago
what people need to realize is (and I say this as a Magic fan) that he travels and double dribbles all the time on fast break dunks! Get over it :P
xRage08 1 year ago
It was a double dribble, NOT a travel !!!
raoskaos 1 year ago
If you think this is a travel you should see LeBron's!!! Holy Shit!!!!
Marakulous43 1 year ago
that might be the most obvious thing ive ever seen
MegaHighlightReel 1 year ago
@MegaHighlightReel Look at the nearest ref. He's behind the play (because the NBA is full of old, out of shape refs). From his perspective, Farmar looks to have fouled or hit the ball.
zofspade 1 year ago
@zofspade hahah ur right
MegaHighlightReel 1 year ago
its travel :D
thats impossible
ekuah4111 2 years ago
Kobe Knew
EwarthJones 2 years ago
Getting away with traveling is an art, it isn't luck. That, however, was just a terrible NO-CALL by the ref. I take 3 steps with the ball all the time, but I don't get called... You just have to know how to make it look smooth and under control. Pietrus didn't travel, he double dribbled.
IxEH05xI 2 years ago
na he fine
RcJumpman33 2 years ago
favorited! this was awesome! GO MAGIC!
SSGx386 2 years ago
clearly double dribble.
ronmexico2006 2 years ago 30
@ronmexico2006 but that's travel
13q28 1 year ago
Looked like a double dribble to me
FreakOfGames9 2 years ago 3
Farmars just being lazy, its not basketball if you don't try to defend someone. It defeats the whole purpose of the game. Im glad Pietrus stuffed it in the lakers faces
TheSportsTalker 2 years ago
in front of the referee..haha..i think he cloged hes whistle.haha
jjumpong00 2 years ago
travel or not? O_o? it is right?
gsjunior514 2 years ago
wait wait more about his walking.... whats up with the video quality man? its hellagood
akiraandmj 2 years ago
FARMAR'S FOUL WAS WEAK...you can't call that....i think farmar was thinking of fouling pietrus but he decided no to coz pietrus was on the act of helding the ball for a layup already...and that would have been an early take off if pietrus took that ball and go straight for a lay up...that was a good decision by FARMAR...but pietrus didnt go for an early take off i guess.....hahahahahaha that was a good decision by pietrus too with LUCK...hahaha but look at that referee behind 0:13...crazy crazy
pnoyfilipino 2 years ago
It's not a travel it's a double dribble
LOL BTW i like the way he switched hands
CSLent 2 years ago 50
they called it travelling now..
pnoyfilipino 2 years ago
@CSLent i dont know if you've ever played organized basketball, but double dribble is a form of a travel, for example a carry would fall under a travel too.
whomiketrann 1 year ago
@whomiketrann Nope you're wrong
qubemaster 1 year ago
@whomiketrann Ye i understand with out traveling there would be no carries
but u can double dribble without traveling
CSLent 1 year ago
@CSLent a double dribble is in the same category as travel. i think the 3 are, travel, double dribble, and up n down(which is mostly referred as traveling) but oh well.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
Terrible no-call. On par with the Andre Miller "3 point line layup"
synapse913 2 years ago
HAHA THAT WHAT I CALLED REFS' HELPING. BUT YOU DIDNT HANDLE THAT WELL MAGIC. . . .well. . . And i am surprises the refs werent even protecting kobe, i would say how dare was that.
whateveryouyouyou 2 years ago
super travel
big26red 2 years ago
people need damn lives
enlightenedguitarist 2 years ago
You two are arguing about a foul being called, and bringing the rule book and
10th grade geometry class into the conversation. Try this: 1.) It was a god damn double dribble. End of story.
bkeiser0207 2 years ago
the g.d. foul by Farmar occurred before the g.d. double dribble by Pietrus. Unfortunately, your oversimplification is just that.
dradamh 2 years ago
en la nba pasos o travel se lo pasan por las pelotas
kuklytorres 2 years ago
he reminds of lamar odom sometimes. great athleticity&skills, no brain-remember when odom inbounded the ball by dribbling? i could totally imagine pietrus doing the same thing
bm9tube 2 years ago
lol make some steps
zaistewykurwiste2 2 years ago
Awesome!
Zermoo 2 years ago
Turkolu or whatever his name is better put that tongue away. Everytime I see him pull that thing out after he hits a big shot they lose the game....lol
15th Title on the way BABY!!!
sirblahbla 2 years ago 2
So what?! Kobe elbows people in the face and doesn't get called for anything.
pongman 2 years ago
that is because he's the NBA golden boy & money maker since 2000, NBA has to help him.
nekbeth 2 years ago
double dribble ftw. but in the nba travel and double dribble are the same shit. i cant believe they didnt call that it was so obvious
SonicBoom91 2 years ago
Yea that wasn't a travel that was a double dribble...
DaGiftedPoet 2 years ago
I was at that game
DJHarrison93 2 years ago
orlando all the way.
blackhawk24009 2 years ago
i think what had happen was pietrus thought the refs would call a foul on farmar so he picked up the ball and dribbled it again for fun. but the refs didn't call anything so it is a travel
Allllllllllllen 2 years ago 2
Yea I reckon. When the foul didn't get called he thought he'd just start dribbling again.. lol
mdmsinc 2 years ago
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QCW 2 years ago 2
a double dribble is a travel in the nba
XxjamsxX 2 years ago 3
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RaNNdOmmNiNjA 2 years ago
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youthontherock1 2 years ago
The official NBA rule for a Clear Path to the Basket foul can be found on the NBA website. Please consult this before making up bogus conditions.
The fast break originates in the backcourt.
There is no one between Pietrus and the basket when the foul occurs.
Farmar fouls to prevent an easy basket.
These are all the conditions. Let's stick with the rules as written.
dradamh 2 years ago
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chipotleattack 2 years ago
The officials may have made the wrong call in that game. According to the official NBA rules, the foul must occur between the basket and an extension of the top of the circle in the backcourt. A clear path foul can occur in either the front court or the back court as long as there is no defensive player between the offense and the basket.
dradamh 2 years ago
farmar didnt foul its a little touch come on its the nba pietrus picked up the ball before farmar touched him then was goin for another dribble as soon as farmar touched him its a clear double dribble
keithndiana 2 years ago
It's a clear intentional foul. You can't reach out and slap a player with both hands as they are on a free path to the basket. Farmar was trying to foul. That much is obvious. I agree that the double dribble was clear. So was the foul on Farmar. The foul came before the double dribble.
dradamh 2 years ago
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keithndiana 2 years ago
Farmar was not in front of the player going towards the basket. He intentionally fouled him to stop the play. This is the heart of a clear path foul. Pietrus had a breakaway from the backcourt. Farmar could not get in front of him in time and so he tried to foul to stop the play. According to the rules as stated, Orlando should have been awarded 2 shots and possession.
dradamh 2 years ago
This is not the heart of a clear path foul. The entire point of a clear path foul is to prevent a defender who is out of the play from committing a foul to stop it. Farmar was in stride with Pietrus, but both players were far enough from the basket for him to meet Pietrus away from the rim rather than at the rim. Farmar is not behind the play, not by any rational metric, anyway.
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
I just replayed the video several times to make sure that your opening sentence was as meritless as I recalled from viewing it when I responded earlier. Your comment is so absurd as to be disregarded altogether. When Pietrus receives the ball a stride from halfcourt, Farmar is 5 feet beyond halfcourt. You don't have any idea what a clear path foul is.
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
Clear Path to the Basket:
If a fast break starts in a teams backcourt and a defender fouls any offensive player when the team is going to score an easy basket, a clear path foul has occurred. When the foul happens, no defender can be ahead of the ball where he could defend against the easy basket.
A. It started in the back court
B. Defender fouled the player
C, Player was going to have an easy basket
D. No player was ahead of the ball
Farmar was behind the ball (0:12)
dradamh 2 years ago
Um, dude, you are completely unhinged. Farmar is ahead of him all the way. What you are referring to as "behind the ball" is the most ridiculous fan subjectivity imaginable.
At 12 seconds the foul has already been committed. At 11 seconds, Farmar is directly to Pietrus's right, not behind him. He clearly reaches directly in front of himself to commit the foul. If he were behind, as you say, he would not be reaching directly in front of himself. This conversation is absurd.
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
You admit that Farmar commits the foul.
You admit that Farmar is not in front of Pietrus when the foul is committed.
Once you admit that the fast break began in the back court and that Farmar was fouling to prevent an easy basket, you have met every condition for a Clear Path to the Basket foul.
dradamh 2 years ago
You are either being willfully obtuse or are simply stupid. The conditions as laid out are not met.
1) Farmar, the person committing the foul, is the defender between the player and the basket. Pietrus does not have a clear path to the basket, as Farmar, who is to his right, is between him and the basket. The fact that Pietrus is on the wing makes his path to the basket TO HIS RIGHT, you nimrod...
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
... If Pietrus could run in a straight line and get to the basket, then the conditions are met. Pietrus can not run in a straight line and get to the basket. He MUST go right. Farmar is to his right. Farmar is also ahead of him when the fast break begins. The only conditions you have met for the rule are that 1) a foul occurred, and 2) it was on a fast break.
Get a grip.
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
If Pietrus is going upcourt and Farmar is to his right, then Farmar is not between Pietrus and the basket. It is a simple matter of geometry. The rule states that there must be no defender between the ball and the basket. At no time is Farmar between the ball and the basket. He is running from the opposite side of the court and can never establish position in front of Pietrus. As a result, he tries to commit a foul to prevent an easy score.
dradamh 2 years ago
I get it now. You are definitely willfully obtuse. If Pietrus is on the left wing, his only path to the basket is to his right. Farmar is in the center of the court, which means that in order to get to the basket unabated he must go through Farmar to get there, unless of course Farmar stops running, which is what your completely absurd point relies on. The very fact that Farmar is able to track Pietrus down 22 feet from the basket and is not behind him at any point prior to actually...
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
... committing the foul relegates your "point" to the garbage bin of internet mindlessness expelled en masse on a regular basis. Unless you are telling me that the basket is about 15 feet to the left of where it actually is, then Farmar is absolutely between the ball and the basket. This is like conversing with a child.
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
dradamh 2 years ago
Farmar is between the ball and the basket when the foul occurs. All of the rest is irrelevant. The dunk went uncontested because the defender did not go to the basket, and instead met the ball 22 feet from the basket.
f. You are a troll. Correct?
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
Which ball and basket are you talking about? During the play, Farmar is never between the ball and the basket. At least not the ball that Pietrus receives at halfcourt and the basket that he dunks on without any opposition.
dradamh 2 years ago
Troll.
It is the height of stupidity to in the same argument concede that Farmar committed a foul twenty-two feet from the basket - which would quite naturally end his participation in the play - and then attempt to discuss the fact that Pietrus goes on to dunk uncontested after that fact as having any meaning at all.
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
Not as stupid as saying that Farmar ran from the other side of the court in order to foul Pietrus on his side while at the same time being in front of Pietrus and between him and the basket. Idiocy at its peak.
dradamh 2 years ago
This is the nice thing about discussing this on a page with the play in question in video form. Anyone with half a brain - this excludes you - is perfectly able to look right now and see that Farmar is in the center of the court when Pietrus receives the ball on the wing and is a good five feet further down the court.
Furthermore, anyone with even the vaguest hint of an understanding of NBA rules realizes this provides Farmar the luxury of fouling Pietrus before he ever gets to the basket.
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
Your completely childish reading of the rule would make it virtually impossible for any defender to ever defend a fast break in which he is not clearly several feet ahead of the ball at all times. Of course, the defender HAS TO MEET THE BALL at some point in the play, you tool. The pertinent question here, according to the rules, is whether Farmar is out of the play at any point. He is easily able to track the ball down and does not have to do so from behind.
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
go fuck yourself
enlightenedguitarist 2 years ago
Your made-up definition is wrong
1. Pietrus position when he receives the ball doesn't matter. The fast break started in the backcourt
2. Farmar's position at the point that Pietrus receives the ball doesn't matter. He was not between the Pietrus and the basket at the time of the foul
3. Distance from the basket doesn't matter. Farmar could not get ahead of Pietrus in time so he decides to foul
4. He fouls to stop an easy basket because there are no other defenders ahead of Pietrus
dradamh 2 years ago
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No, it matters WHERE the foul occurs, not where the play started. Go back a few games where Ariza was fouled by Carmelo two steps over the half court line, and it wasn't called a clear path foul since it occured in the front court. Also, I don't know what you're watching but Farmar was way AHEAD of the ball first. Pietrus running forward and Farmar slowing down to foul equals Farmar ending up behind him on the foul.
chipotleattack 2 years ago
Freeze frame at 6 and 11 seconds and you will see the intentional foul by Farmar to stop the easy basket. A dumb play since it should have resulted in a clear path to the basket foul since Farmar fouled from Pietrus right side and was not between Pietrus and the basket in a fast break play that originated in the back court.
The double dribble is unimportant as Pietrus would have received 2 free throws and the ball out of bounds.
dradamh 2 years ago
A clear path foul is not called on a defender between the ball and the basket. Farmar is not behind the play, so it was not a clear path foul. Defenders foul players out on the floor all the time to keep them from getting a shot off. The play should have resulted in a foul, no free throws (because the Lakers were not in the penalty), and possession of the ball.
thenewcharlescastle 2 years ago
A clear-path-to-the-basket foul is called if a personal foul occurs (1) when the ball and an offensive player are positioned between the tip-of-circle extended in the backcourt and the basket in the frontcourt, with no defender between the ball and the basket, (2) the possession originates in the backcourt, including throw-ins, and (3) the foul deprives the offensive team of an opportunity to score.
2006 Rule: 2 free throw attempts and the ball on the sideline
1, 2, and 3 are all true.
dradamh 2 years ago
it was a dbl dribble not a travel
joepescifromcasino 2 years ago
The ref didn't have a good angle really on that. Obviously a missed call, but the ref was behind. They just can't run as fast as the players, sorry. Also, as many have stated already, the poster of this vid should learn the rules because it was a double dribble, not a travel.
pgorney 2 years ago
this is why they need instant replays sometimes for refs in the nba like the nfl does. although its not really necessary since the nba is wayy faster than the nfl is. itd be a waste of time
nicolasmun13 2 years ago
Wow, right in front of the ref too.
ollieill1 2 years ago
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dradamh 2 years ago
Its not a clear path foul dumbass
dr0ckisadmac 2 years ago
Not a Travel, Double dribble.
QuiKstahz 2 years ago 4
Seriously? YouTube would have to double its server size if we made a video for every bad call that went against the Magic in these Playoffs.
DCJayB 2 years ago 7
exactly the refs have been awful both ways in this series/playoffs but i would argue the lakers have benefited much more than the magic
bayareacollection 2 years ago 4
You're absolutely right!! If you want to talk about bad calls just look at how many bailouts the lakers got in the 2nd half of Game 2 vs. the Magic. Unbelievable!
pierce2005 2 years ago
I love how people talk crap about Kobe getting away with calls. If you ignorant fans would actually WATCH Kobe, you would see he gets fouled throughout the game, with minimal calls actually made. Learn your basketball.
ZacharyLow81 2 years ago
kobe is the biggest cry baby & you know that. He's also NBA's golden boy since 2000 season (replacing Jordan's popularity). OOh and during the Blazers & Kings series, if anybody touch kobe or Shaq by accident it was a foul (& freethrows). NBA sux since then.
nekbeth 2 years ago
Ya that's why kobe has been talking mess about all the crap he's gotten on the court? Are you joking? He's kept his mouth shut, and even made humorous comments about the poor, and even DIRTY play, towards him. Don't be ignorant.
ZacharyLow81 2 years ago
sure, basketball wise ass
nekbeth 2 years ago
You're lack of an argument and you're immature words just prove that you don't know what you're talking about. Bad calls have gone both ways, but if it's going to be a bad call, at least be consistent with it. Kobe has consistently been hammered and not received any help. It's obvious.
ZacharyLow81 2 years ago
Well, my arguement happens to have live witness in jail, yes a referee who admitted to have helped the Lakers win championships (for him to win on gambling), you know who that is right? I mean your the basketball wise ass. Is that inmmature enough for you?
nekbeth 2 years ago
haha...it's not "inmmature" it's immature...and he didn't admit to helping the lakers, he admitted to cheating, he didn't say specifically...and of course people can't just admit who the better team is...like when the Celtics were clearly the better team last year. At least I have the dignity to admit when my team is the lesser of the 2.
ZacharyLow81 2 years ago
Alright Webster,if you say you have dignity to admit a better team i believe you, coming from a Faker fan is a hard thing but if you say so.About the referee, he has admitted cheating specifically for game 6 vs the kings series, yes that crazy game in which lakers had doble the freethrows while kobe, Shaq & Fisher were throwing elbows desperately cause they were down by 10 with less than 4 minutes left. You can google it if don't believe.I know you love your faker team, but they won cheating.
nekbeth 2 years ago
Lakers fans root for their team. Non-Lakers fans root AGAINST the Lakers because they know their team is the lesser of the 2. Grow a pair and be positive for your team, not negative against another one because you have no balls. End of commentary.
ZacharyLow81 2 years ago
Well my team, happen to beat the crap out your team last year in the Finals.
nekbeth 2 years ago
You're right they did. I watched it :-). And now I'm watching my team win the Championship this year.
ZacharyLow81 2 years ago
lol, it's like cheering for a Pro Wrestler, it's all fake. But if it makes you feel good then go ahead & cheer for "your Faker team".
nekbeth 2 years ago
Are you on the Lakers bandwagon too?
planchet20 2 years ago
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shut the fuck up little bitch. that was a travel and those idiot refs are with your hommo ass orlando team, thats why they won their little gay game 3.
IIIxIRONMANxII 2 years ago
If by bandwagon, you mean a fan since I was a kid, (mid to late 90's), then yes. If you mean bandwagon as in a fan of the lakers since they won back-to-back-to-back then no. I've been a Kobe fan since he got drafted, and a Lakers fan for just as long. 1996-1997 season.
ZacharyLow81 2 years ago
he's also said he has fixed playoff games from 2000 to 2003 & won't not give more details. Is it coincidence that the lakers won all those years? You have to be too naive or stupid to believe that. NBA is fixed since 1999. It´s all business. You should know that, your the "wwise" guy.
nekbeth 2 years ago
If it's fixed why the fuck do you continue to watch it? Are you fuckin retarded because from reading your arguments it seems like it. The "fakers" the fuck does that mean? They fake being good that's hard to do. The teams not in the championship must be worse then or they're not faking. What the fuck are they faking, dumbass?
STFUGTFO2 2 years ago
lol, don't get too grumpy stf, it's just a game & a very fixed game.I only watch my favorite players weather their on Boston or Minnesota.. it does not matter.I enjoy good basketball (college, European or NBA), but I don't care about results, specially NBA since the´re already fixed. For example, I enjoy watching kobe´s jumper but his defense sux as well as his crybaby attitude (like Gasol).The "Faker" is just an nickname to your team, why.. well I would say its cause their a bunch of posers.
nekbeth 2 years ago
faker? like paul peirce in the 08 finals?
cowburner0 2 years ago
Fake is not the Truth & the Truth hurts. Just ask the Faker team last year.
nekbeth 2 years ago
wait what happend to peirce this year? i totally forgot about him and the celtics, can ya gimme a recap?
cowburner0 2 years ago
Sure, their best player got injured before playoffs, otherwise they'll be going for their back to back championship.
nekbeth 2 years ago
How the fuck is it "good basketball" if you keep whining about it being fixed? You're obviously some dumb motherfucker who's mad cause his team lost. You need to shut the fuck up and quit bitching no one gives a flying fuck about your false accusations, anyone can claim that a team is cheating but it doesn't make it true. Quit responding because no one gives a shit.
STFUGTFO2 2 years ago
Take that anger out stfu, lol. Listen, by "good basketball" I mean skills, individual basketball not games, cause as you know there is living proof that NBA(& it's refs) fixes games for the Faker team. Calm down Faker boy, it's only fixed games, lets enjoy the plays & the talent. No need for luck today for the Faker team as we all know refs will help them out again.(did you see that obvious miss call elbow to the face by kobego on a critical play, it's so obvious that it just make me laugh).
nekbeth 2 years ago
and i guess ur magic team shows magic no more?
how about the faker block from ur superman?
oh wait.. he's faker superman!
jackwu10 2 years ago
who said my team was the magic? I follow players, not teams.
nekbeth 2 years ago
Faker team you mean the Lakers? and hmm...by good basketball of individual skills and talent. Kobe and his teammate gets no love? That doesn't sound like you base anything on skills or talents.
kangaroo1119 2 years ago
kobe might get some love from the Faker team but he's too egocentric, specially in the 4th quarter (& a true crybaby). Besides, he's a Jordan wanna be, he has nothing new to offer. The only players that I respect & get all the love are the ones that bring their own unique style & defend first before thinking to score. In today basketball, I can only find Garnett. (In the past: Only Scottie Pippen & Hakeem Olajuwon.. no, no Jordan)
nekbeth 2 years ago
haha....you're funny...if you're playing basketball....how could you add points on your team? tell me...is it BLOCK, STEAL or REBOUND?....don't make a shot? ? ? that's stupid right? when did you hear a team won because they had the most REBOUNDS, BLOCKS, STEALS but not SCORE??? HAHAHAHAHAHA STUPID!!!!
pnoyfilipino 2 years ago
Nah all I see is a hating dumbass who's just angry because the lakers are the best. You have no proof. So you come up with terrible nicknames to insult their fans. You just can't deal with the fact that they're really good. Your ignorance makes me lol. (Did I mention that your nickname is almost as gay as you?)
STFUGTFO2 2 years ago
ok, lets see when they meet Boston (healthy) again. Faker team got lucky Garnett was injured. Enjoy it while it last, Congratulations to the Faker team & his Refs.
nekbeth 2 years ago
la the faker team? somebodies already forgotten the performance paul peirce put on last year with "getting injured" and kg should get the fk over it and play, kobe's pinky was fked up and he missed ONE game when he got surgery on it
cowburner0 2 years ago
You still have no proof at all. You're just some fucking idiot 10 year old who comes up with gay nicknames. I can take confidence in saying you're the biggest dumbass I've ever spoken to.
STFUGTFO2 2 years ago
dirty plays towards kobe? kobe has dealt out plenty of cheap shots in his career...he's elbowed at least 3 people in the face before in what he calls "his follow through"...im not a lakers fan though....but kobe does his share of dirty plays
gayboy298 2 years ago
of course he does, everyone in the nba plays dirty at least 2-3 or more each game
mankillz22 2 years ago 2
crawford was RIGHT THERE and he didn't even see that pietrus travelled. blind ass old man.
poppinpengawen 2 years ago
i bet if it was tim duncan's teeth, he would see them right away and throw him out of the game.
yazzybone 2 years ago 2
Not only was there suppose to be a travel but the foul was not called either
voods187 2 years ago