Breakfast At Dawn - Maheen and Deepak Perwani - Part One

[dreamloverformi]

Frankly speaking,without any hatered...Pakistan has to keep India And Kashmeer on the back burner for few decades to concentrate on their more urgent issues for survival.

[dreamloverformi]

Slumdogmillionaire is nothing new in bollywood history of story telling...and to be frank cutting body parts and shotting of eyeballs of childrem for begging is a almost history. Come to our trains and road...such cases are few,ya beggers are still there but not of this kind as in slumdogmillionaire.

[dreamloverformi]

Improving image of a country through cinema and fashion...what a joke...lol

I hate it when people portrait popular sentiments just for kicks.Isn't chandani bar,page 3,a wednesday,meri jaan mumbai,etc etc showing the real india to the world???

[seasonedsevencolors]

2:30 onwards. Mr Perwani gets (but not visibly) uncomfortable as Ms Khan brings up and credits India. And he had to bring up negatives of India - poverty & ethnic violence (both of which are even a bigger problem in Pakistan). I can understand, Mr Pervani.

[ToshiSabriVideos]

@seasonedsevencolors those 2 problems are bigger in India. In India hindus killed over 1000 muslims in gujrat. There are so many ethnic violence in maharashtra, orissa, west bengal etc.

India's poverty rate is at 55% while Pak's is at 17%

[seasonedsevencolors]

@ToshiSabriVideos And yet secular India commands more respect and influence than Islamic Pakistan, internationally - both politically & economically. There are more Shia-Sunni-Mohajir riots and bomb blasts in Pakistan than India. More people lose lives in Pak owing to ethnic violence and religious fundamentalism. Toshi, you know what world says about Pak? It says Pak is on the verge of being a failed state. It is time for serious introspection on the part of educated Pakistanis like you.

[pink2bluee]

@seasonedsevencolors Bigger in Pakistan? Honey, look at the numbers and figures. India tops the charts in all things ethnic violence, female infanticides etc. I hope, you DO understand.

[intergalacticpeace]

deepak and maheen, you made us proud. Great job!

[waqasalikhanrajput]

Its funny how you agree with what I am saying then you twist it in another direction. Your a funny kid..

[esdoubleuare]

Btw, what i do is none of your business. But i can tell you one thing, your attitude wont be earning you accolades anytime soon.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

K, I understand.

[esdoubleuare]

And I like west of their work culture, their honesty and self respect for others in general. You know it too well to bring all about killing muslims. I am a muslim too so dont play that card on me. thats another discussion, you cant even think cohesively on one subject. and funny you too live in canada even though you dont even appreciate them for whats good there.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

Haha, little do you know and little do you see. Its alright though. Seeing they see not, hearing they hear not, neither will they understand =)

[waqasalikhanrajput]

Open minded, so open minded her brain has fallen out criticizing our religious dressing "Hijab is fard" but some people who are openly liberals are for some reason questionable about people wearing hijabs and shalwars over their ankles.

So where is the liberalism, what is wrong with wearing that.. oh my bad.. that is oppression. She should apologize on her next show.

[esdoubleuare]

West has a particular image about us (and how we dress) and any sensible educated person would agree that its not something to be proud of. And i dont think rasool allah would want us to commit every sin in the book and then dress up like him. I think he would switch to pants and dress shirt if he would come back today. Today we are the most illiterate, corrupt and ill mannered nation on planet. and all we know is to ask people to pray and force our belief on others.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

Your probably talking about yourself and this shows your lack of knowledge regarding Islam and the teachings of the Prophet (pbuh), not that I am dictating Islam but dressing like a Muslim takes more then an effort you think. Its not easy to walk out wearing the Hijab being critized by this west.

If your there to impress the west, be my guest but there is a lot more to life your missing on. There is so much I can write but I know you lack the basic background to start understand

[esdoubleuare]

btw yes i care about "the west" and dont like to live in a bubble (inspite of you wanting us to). If you really live in canada, you should know you cant impress them by dressing up pretty. i hope you were j/k! My actions are that speak for me and i work hard to make pakistan look good. However, unlike you, I dont go on forums explaining my loyalty to my country and my relationship with allah.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

LOL, your funny. Listen to me and try to understand English.

1. Where have I dictated Islam ?

2. When did I say women not wearing a Hijab are whores, my mother does not wear a Hijab..

3. You care about the west even after the millions of Muslims they kill in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnea, Palestine but your Islam and care is in your heart. So stupid ol me

4. I live in Canada and I dont need fancy clothes so people will recognize me, I would rather be known for my actions rather then what I wear

[waqasalikhanrajput]

How exactly do you make Pakistan look good, please explain ??

[esdoubleuare]

Re-read what you said in your first and second post. i am not making things up. Secondly, there is NOTHING called muslim dress code. its in your head. Cultures evolve and so does everything, if you want to stick to ankle high shalwar and topis..thats your choice. I also never suggested about wearing skirts too. you only think black and white, there are no grey areas for you.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

What did the Prophet wear and what did his wives wear. That is what is Muslim dressing. To dress like a Muslim.

[esdoubleuare]

Thanks for actually saying it. i do hope by the way that no one read your statement and think of all muslims as lunatics. And yeah since you "see, hear and understand" ..., prophet like other arab men never wore shalwar kameez (its an east indian dress). he probably wore this long garment called thoub (google it)...so technically no one in pakistan wear a "muslim dress". So who are you following then when prophet never actually wore shalwar kameez some 1400 years ago?

[esdoubleuare]

which brings me to my actual point again. muslims just dress "moderately". man whatever you are saying doesnt make any sense, i tried to think about it rationally but its just a ridiculous statement. I can agree to an arab dress or turkish dress or pakistani dress (based on different cultures of these places) but there really is nothing called muslim dress.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

Your statements are as extremest as any other liberal out there. I would clap at your desperate attempt to understanding Islam but your far from it.

The point here is, she is critizing a Muslims dress code. No if's or but's can justify that. No one is perfect, but if you dont know 5 out of 10 questions on a paper, you dont leave the 5 you know because you dont know the rest.

Similarly, you dont stop dressing like a Muslim because you can do live like a perfect Muslim. do what little you can

[esdoubleuare]

I follow all tenants of islam but i dont like anyone crtisizing me or others just on basis of religion. I know all of this is still gibberish to you. so be it.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

What is your definition of criticism ? People telling you not to insult their clothing and telling you what your saying can hurt others ??

Like I said, typical liberal that has this view "My religion is in my heart, BUT you extremest are dictating Islam, and whats up with the Hijab, is that even a part of Islam, dont force it on me"

Real situation "I dont care what you wear as long as you dont disrespect what Muslims wear"

[waqasalikhanrajput]

You care so much about what the west thinks that you would stop following the teachings of the Quran and the ways of the Prophet (pbuh) ? You would not represent yourself as a Muslim because of what the West will think ??

Your in a sweet little world not aware of reality my friend. Snap out of it, there is more to life then fashion.

[esdoubleuare]

you are "dictating islam", even if you dont accept it. I grew up in pakistan, so you dont need to teach me anything about islam. Every pakistani thinks its

their birth right to critisize every one on basis of religion/belief. Who gave you this right my friend? your version of islam is probably similar to ones who are

busy blowing up themselves these days. I belong to a middle class family. my mother wear hijab but not because people like you force it on her. She has the right

to do it.

[esdoubleuare]

My sister doesn't wear hijab, so in your book she is probably a whore. Sad, there is nothing that can be done about people like you. Muslim dress moderately

and thats all their is to it. Wearing something from years of prophet mohammaed doesnt necesarrily makes anyone a good muslim. If naveen naqvi puts a gun to your head,

then by all means do the same. but STOP FORCING your belief on others. Live and let other people live how they want. Its not about "fashion", its about "LIFE".

[waqasalikhanrajput]

Forcing beliefs ?? You probably cant read or have problem understanding English. All I said was, her statement "People in ankle high shalwar, topis and hijab is not acceptable and is not who we are"

SO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS. She made an offensive statement to the Muslim dress code. That is offensive, she can wear what she wants and promote what she wants. I wear jeans t-shirts myself.

So don't jump on a horse and draw conclusion. Stop putting what you think as my words.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

Look around you, people have that ask to right why Hijab but not the right to ask why mini skirt ?

Not go on your ego trip and tell me how I am wrong, but that is the truth. No one says why he or she exposes skin but everyone has to know why the hijab and the beard.

Learn to face reality, you just cant because your just not into it yet.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

What kind of a dumb statement is "We dont all wear shalwar above ankles, hats and hijabs ??"

Maybe this fashion driven woman is forgetting that is what Muslims wear and if she has a problem with it then move to a country that does not have a name as "Islamic Rebuclic of Pakistan"

Wearing skirts and looking like a ______ is more preferable to her but honestly, you should watch and think before what your saying

[esdoubleuare]

Majority of pakistan which is middle class doesnt wear shalwar above ankles nor wear complete hijab. You are right. She doesnt have any right to judge people on basis of how they look. And so do you. you dont have right to say anything about her or her beliefs, if thats the way you want it. Pakistan was a liberal state and never meant to be "Islamic Republic of Pakistan". Thats us gone horribly wrong.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

"And so do you. you dont have right to say anything about her or her beliefs, if thats the way you want it."

Really ? and where have I said anything like that, I have not criticized her fashion, I have simply posted a fact.

Secondly, you should read some history, Pakistan was made because Muslims could not follow their religion. I dont mean to disrespect you by any means, but dont say that in public, it could hurt.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

Revise your history and dont come defending your friend here because your views are similar to hers. She made a wrong statement, she should be apologetic.

So dont drag the subject. We all know she is never going to apologize. EGO i tell you, and that is what your rasol allah does not like. That was the reason that Allah banished Shaitan, because of his arrogance and ego to not bow to Adam (pbuh)

[waqasalikhanrajput]

"You are right. She doesnt have any right to judge people on basis of how they look."

Thank you

[esdoubleuare]

wow that's a cheap shot! taking sentences out of context. It's similar to what evening news papers do in pakistan. lol Anyway it was such a pointless discussion we had if i had known earlier that you were incapable of logical thinking and staying within context of discussion. your brain is actually a hodgepodge of ill-structured thoughts. since you are part of the group that feed on what they are told. And its not your fault. you are not meant to do it, its in your gene.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

LOL, looks like i stepped on the cats tail. how is that out of context. this exactly what your saying, see you coming out and going all the way to show me tells me something about you. Your insecure.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

This is what you said "Majority of pakistan which is middle class doesnt wear shalwar above ankles nor wear complete hijab. You are right. She doesnt have any right to judge people on basis of how they look. And so do you. you dont have right to say anything about her or her beliefs, if thats the way you want it."

So that is the way I want and therefore I am right. First and for most I am not a teenager. I can bet you I am far more educated and stable then you are. what are you.. a blogger ??

[esdoubleuare]

and from your replies i am guessing you have brain age of 15 or something. that age group mostly is stuck-up on things they are told because its hard for them to form an opinion for themselves. And the less they know, the more vocal about it they are. that's why we see teenage groups dominating these forums. They are always the first people to respond and its always thoughts portraying their core belief or understanding on subject matter.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

First people to respond.. aaah, only person to respond here, so your wrong there, pretty desperate attempt there but at least get the situation right, I know I pretty much rambled and totally destroyed your stance from your own words but live with it. For that to not happen in the future, you really need to know what your standing for.

A person who stands for nothing falls for anything... thats you.

[esdoubleuare]

Any person with coherent mindset and capable of driving a purposeful discussion never put out statements. he rather chose opinions and questions with understanding that he can be wrong. so what i am trying to say here is you haven't got any of these sensibilities, so anyone talking to you can never get to any conclusion good or bad. period. so i am sorry to expect you to think along those lines. Lets leave it at that. you can reply if you like but i dont like to waste my time anymore.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

"Any person with coherent mindset and capable of driving a purposeful discussion never put out statements. he rather chose opinions and questions with understanding that he can be wrong."

What I am saying, neither do you. Yes, you should not waste your time and live in that bubble of your being the perfect one. Before showing me that light of paradigm, please step in it yourself. Your in plain words a hypocrite.

[esdoubleuare]

"I can bet you I am far more educated and stable then you are. what are you.. a blogger ??"

LOL. bet with yourself. good for self esteem :)

And yeah i am a hypocrite because i didnt keep my promise to stay away. I tried really hard not to hit my head against your shallow existence yet again - but this statement cracked me up and I couldnt resist!

btw, "A person who stands for nothing falls for anything" - sorry what? you do use lot of cheesy phrases; lose it, doesnt suit you.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

Bet with yourself, good for self esteem ?? that makes no sense what so ever. That is a dumb statement and I can bet your probably someone who is a blogger making statements not knowing what they mean. :P

You could not resist to reply ? or to laugh... Wow, and only if you knew who said that quote you would probably not even make that statement, take your rothschild agenda some where else, your wasting time, you hardly give an explanation and keep running around the bush.

[waqasalikhanrajput]

And btw, your mad funny, your audience is probably cracking up, too bad we cant see it here, but I am sure it is somewhere in baby blues world. (what... baby blues world.. will probably take u a decade to figure that out)

[waqasalikhanrajput]

Visionaries in the government.. thats a joke..