.....after which, the extra cows I have eat more grass than can be replenished every season - grass that other farmers' cows are also eating - and we have the "tragedy of the commons", after which, the Leftists rise up and call me selfish, greedy, corporatist, and oppressive, right before they attempt to take over the government of my land and make sure that I share my cows with everyone in the land, after which, I refuse to hand over the cows or share my wealth, after which, I get executed.
@BirgirZ well, communism is the order without any government, state, policemen or organized military. and socialism is the dictatorship era for communists for the final aim communism. and anarchists are against that socialist era too because they believe that those socialist republics cannot convert into communist order, against it the governments in socialists republics becomes stronger by the time for them. the paris commune reached the communism once before they have been destroyed.
@heathen9991 Im an anarchist, but im not a communist and i dont see where you can have a system where everybody HAS to share, unless you have someone forcing people to do some (a local goverment)
@BirgirZ transitional socialism is the thing that you are talking about. i respect your ideology, the difference between anarco-communists and communists is only the way to communism.
@heathen9991 It still does not answer the question, you talk off transision with a goverment that uses force and therfore i dont see how any anarchist could be in favour of that. But when this communism of yours has been gained and theres no police or goverment what will hold it in place. If i would be situated in an are where this no-goverment communism exists, i would´t be a part of it and alot of people wouldnt ither.
@WhyMeMoFo By "those who actually do the work" do you mean a bloated government bureaucracy? I fail to see how innovators and industrialists do no work. After all are we not using a website designed by a private, "non-producing" individual who was looking to get rich? We use the product for entertainment and education, the corporation makes money from ad revenue. It's not a zero-sum game here. The government will always try to cut in on the profits of those who try to make money.
@WhyMeMoFo Wrong. In capitalism, everyone works for one another. The only nations that have seen unparalleled growth in civil liberties and standards of living for all have been in free market systems.
You first error was15 seconds in. In Communism their is no government. All the people work and they all the fruits of their labor communally without payment. Ideally their is total income equality, the doctor would provide medical care to anybody that needed it and would it turn be given all he needed. I'm not saying that a system like this could ever work humans are probably to greedy/lazy. But you have failed at a basic level to understand the opposing view point, no surprise for a Hovind.
Democrat = You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful and push for higher taxes so the gov't can provide cows for everyone.
Republican = You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. So?
About communism and socialism you already got a good explanation from Milambit23.
Communism is the abolishment of private property, you cannot rightfully own a cow to begin with. It is said by many great men that as long as private property exists happiness cannot exist alongside it. Since and before the time of Sir Thomas More.
Socialism is /not/ like that at all. If anything it's more like communism.
Fascism claims to be socialist, yet an enemy of communism, and in reality it practiced a harsh capitalism.
@Milambit23 nazi-ism is /socialism/ + /nationalism/, as opposed to communism, which is socialism + internationalism. in an ethnically homogenous society (germany, which is comprised of german people or really most any nation in the old world where borders are drawn on ethnic lines), racism is a natural, inherent aspect of nationalism as race pertains to that nation's identity. nazi-ism brought socialization of healthcare, education, transportation, media, most aspects of life.
that was a terribly biased video. national socialism is not like that, and capitalism is more like, u have 2 cows, ur neighbor has only one, so u intimidate, con, and cheat him until u have three cows, then go off and find more cows to steal
@crypt41 And communism is; everybody shares their cows amongst one another until everyone has all the cows they need.
The problem with capitalism is exactly that; the concept of 'need' is disposed of in favor of commodity.
If anyone either took an economics class or watched Zeitgeist; moving forward then they'd understand that politics themselves are an outdated practice that entirely fucked up the Roman Gov't and continues to muss up our own.
that nazism example was terrible! The biggest segment of Nazi support was the rural peasants! Hitler idealized the peasant life and gave them benefits (obviously if they weren't jewish)
Jesus was pretty much a socialist. Don't tell Santorum
USMCNIM5 1 day ago
.....after which, the extra cows I have eat more grass than can be replenished every season - grass that other farmers' cows are also eating - and we have the "tragedy of the commons", after which, the Leftists rise up and call me selfish, greedy, corporatist, and oppressive, right before they attempt to take over the government of my land and make sure that I share my cows with everyone in the land, after which, I refuse to hand over the cows or share my wealth, after which, I get executed.
progrockable 1 month ago
so communism is when the government controls the means of production ?
crzune 2 months ago
what are you guys talking about
there are many things that we have to solve on our own doesn't matter what way is taken
bigmwhite 5 months ago
yeah captialism!!!!
ugotpimp 5 months ago
Well, there is NO government on communism, there is a fatal error on this video.
heathen9991 7 months ago
@heathen9991 explain to me how there is no goverment in communism
BirgirZ 6 months ago
@BirgirZ well, communism is the order without any government, state, policemen or organized military. and socialism is the dictatorship era for communists for the final aim communism. and anarchists are against that socialist era too because they believe that those socialist republics cannot convert into communist order, against it the governments in socialists republics becomes stronger by the time for them. the paris commune reached the communism once before they have been destroyed.
heathen9991 6 months ago
@heathen9991 Im an anarchist, but im not a communist and i dont see where you can have a system where everybody HAS to share, unless you have someone forcing people to do some (a local goverment)
BirgirZ 6 months ago
@BirgirZ transitional socialism is the thing that you are talking about. i respect your ideology, the difference between anarco-communists and communists is only the way to communism.
heathen9991 6 months ago
@heathen9991 It still does not answer the question, you talk off transision with a goverment that uses force and therfore i dont see how any anarchist could be in favour of that. But when this communism of yours has been gained and theres no police or goverment what will hold it in place. If i would be situated in an are where this no-goverment communism exists, i would´t be a part of it and alot of people wouldnt ither.
BirgirZ 6 months ago
@heathen9991 under idealized communism there is no government but that will never happen.
metzger90 5 months ago
@WhyMeMoFo By "those who actually do the work" do you mean a bloated government bureaucracy? I fail to see how innovators and industrialists do no work. After all are we not using a website designed by a private, "non-producing" individual who was looking to get rich? We use the product for entertainment and education, the corporation makes money from ad revenue. It's not a zero-sum game here. The government will always try to cut in on the profits of those who try to make money.
scottysmo88 7 months ago
@WhyMeMoFo Wrong. In capitalism, everyone works for one another. The only nations that have seen unparalleled growth in civil liberties and standards of living for all have been in free market systems.
scottysmo88 7 months ago
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You first error was15 seconds in. In Communism their is no government. All the people work and they all the fruits of their labor communally without payment. Ideally their is total income equality, the doctor would provide medical care to anybody that needed it and would it turn be given all he needed. I'm not saying that a system like this could ever work humans are probably to greedy/lazy. But you have failed at a basic level to understand the opposing view point, no surprise for a Hovind.
Pillowpants8495 7 months ago
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Pillowpants8495 7 months ago
laaaaame
Tozabon 8 months ago
The dollar's not almighty, but otherwize, I like the video.
rhinnawi95 8 months ago
You forgot the two best ones:
Democrat = You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful and push for higher taxes so the gov't can provide cows for everyone.
Republican = You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. So?
About communism and socialism you already got a good explanation from Milambit23.
SomeoneCrazy2 9 months ago
I think they tried to put capitalism in a good light...
lb8068 9 months ago
Communism is the abolishment of private property, you cannot rightfully own a cow to begin with. It is said by many great men that as long as private property exists happiness cannot exist alongside it. Since and before the time of Sir Thomas More.
Socialism is /not/ like that at all. If anything it's more like communism.
Fascism claims to be socialist, yet an enemy of communism, and in reality it practiced a harsh capitalism.
Nazi-ism is fascism+racism.
Your video is simply not good.
Milambit23 10 months ago
@Milambit23 nazi-ism is /socialism/ + /nationalism/, as opposed to communism, which is socialism + internationalism. in an ethnically homogenous society (germany, which is comprised of german people or really most any nation in the old world where borders are drawn on ethnic lines), racism is a natural, inherent aspect of nationalism as race pertains to that nation's identity. nazi-ism brought socialization of healthcare, education, transportation, media, most aspects of life.
ayaytc 9 months ago
@ayaytc Please consult your basic intro-college course ideology booklet, or at the very lease Ball and Dagger's Ideals and Ideologies, by Pearson.
Racism+Fascism=Nazism (Ball, Dagger)
Abolishment of Private, but not personal, Property = Communism (Communist Manifesto/Engels; Marx).
I believe racism is a little more complicated than that, but okay...
And Nazism isn't exactly "The original socialism" they didn't practice -actual- socialism.
Please don't correct me when you're wrong.
Milambit23 9 months ago
@Milambit23 Fascism is the farthest thing from capitalism.
rhinnawi95 8 months ago
This is ripped directly from here youtube(dot)c)m/wa7ch?v(equals) YIPDJ1Cc(underscore)uw&feature=related
ketherga 1 year ago
So what seems the most fair to from this is communism.
Philyo32 1 year ago
that was a terribly biased video. national socialism is not like that, and capitalism is more like, u have 2 cows, ur neighbor has only one, so u intimidate, con, and cheat him until u have three cows, then go off and find more cows to steal
crypt41 1 year ago
@crypt41 Capitalism is...you have two cows and you bust your ass taking care of the cows so that you sell better milk then your competitor.
Glenn666 1 year ago
@crypt41 And communism is; everybody shares their cows amongst one another until everyone has all the cows they need.
The problem with capitalism is exactly that; the concept of 'need' is disposed of in favor of commodity.
If anyone either took an economics class or watched Zeitgeist; moving forward then they'd understand that politics themselves are an outdated practice that entirely fucked up the Roman Gov't and continues to muss up our own.
Stalin sucked, but Lenin didn't.
Milambit23 10 months ago
that nazism example was terrible! The biggest segment of Nazi support was the rural peasants! Hitler idealized the peasant life and gave them benefits (obviously if they weren't jewish)
elessar1313 1 year ago