I believe that a portion of any amount of child support should automatically go into an interest bearing account in the child's name. That will insure that the support isnt being used to get mom's hair and nails done. That is whats happening to most support money given to the custodial parent (mostly mothers). It is "child support" not mommy support for her own personal gain. Also they need to start showing bills of sale for any item other than food that they spent money on in raising the child.
I pay 350 dollars a month , I recently fell behind and now am looking at 6months in jail. I have 2 other kids that live with me that will be punished for 1. I completely agree with childsupport , but if she doesn't have a job why am I looking at jail time? Childsupport is a system to punish the none custodian parent as if they are criminals. Childsupport in no shape is fair and reasonable.
I only hope that her time will come and she can wonder how she can support her family with whats left.
I do have a solution for this issue of child support and I am from Texas. I need the support of all to change this problem but we are going to need to work together. IT CAN BE CHANGED! We just have to be serious about it. Believe me, I am going through it and will fight for you. Will you fight for me?
I am on facebook. Look up Group: Help Promote Child Support Reform. Please add as member and I will get you a googlewave account and join the discussion.
childsupport is a way for the goverment whont pay the food stamps or medical or money back in the 80s there was no childsupport and those in need they have to help when u go to warefare the first thing they do is put the other party in childsupport cuz the goverment is taking our taxes and were our are taxes they say the economy is bad but we pay our own foodstamp medical bills or cash WERE OUR FUCKING TAXES ARE ?
being onest childsupport is a way for the goverment take money from us cuz back in the 80s there was no child support and the goverment will pay for everything this is just a way for the goverment to take money from the father or mother to give us food stamp and all this bullshit cuz when u go to warefare for help the first thing they do is put the other party in childsupport is just a way for the goverment not to help were are our taxes going to then ?
I just have to say that when the "mans pill" comes out , ladies watch out, Your free ride is over! And the best part is,men won't just have the pill, they will have several methods of contraception.
I want my son to not have kids until HE is ready, not some horny little vixen who wants to trap him and ruin his life. I think men having a pill will help, but the "corrupt legal system" will have to be cleaned up and likely those who are responsible for the huge mess will have to be punished.
How much does a man really have to say when it comes to "creating" something? Only laying between the legs, after that its up to the mother if she wishes to have the child.
The man is completely cut of from any decision making before, during or after the pregnancy in our society. Remember, condoms are NOT 100% so please think before you throw accusations out their as if you know me.
If you are not ready for grown folks responsibility, don't do grown foks things-like have sex.
If you are not ready for the reaction your action causes, refrain from the action to ensure no reaction.
Condoms ARE 100% effective when you OMIT HUMAN ERROR!
So, how much say do you have before conception? Unless she held a gun to your head, and forced you to spill seed in her, you had the power to use protection. Don't cry about what is 1/2 your making.
It goes both ways but I'm a man that can make my own decisions. I don't have to deal with something I don't want to. That's as simple as I can put it.
I know your type though, it's all the mans fault. You decide to have the kid but the man needs to be there because you say so. I say the hell with that.
Actually, it is both ADULTS that need to step up and take care of their kids! If you helped make the child, why would you not be expected in helping to take care of the child?
Yeah, your mother should have never had you, that's for sure.
The man doesn't need to be there, but it is only right that he is. Mothers do it regardless if the man is there or not. Most can not say it is the other way around.
Really, you shouldn't have sex, you are not grown up enough to do so.
I don't have no children but in all my 42yrs on this planet I've known and saw men who had to deal with child support. The law chasing them down, the women after them. I have to wonder about this so-called "he abandoned this child" bullcrap be first of all that's A LOT of men doing that especially black men. What's the real reason behind this? Is it true? Or is it the man didn't really want the child in the first place no matter what she wanted. Could he have been tricked?
It don't matter. I've dealt with women who pulled those kinda tricks, knew women with multipal children by different fathers and dated a few women who were up to no good. I'm blessed to not have had children by these women. In my life time , and I figure I'm a bit older than you, I've met only TWO women who were worthy of my child if it had went that way. That ain't sayin' much for the human race Lunarchick77. Why have a baby if the MAN don't want one?
Instead of asking that, you should ask why he didn't take procautions, and why did he go on to make 5 more kids? My son is the oldest of 6 kids and he is 6years old. 6 kids, 6 mothers, and you claim women are the problem? Women worthy of your child? Seriously? So I guess you don't go around having unprotected sex, procreating, then crying about the responsibiity to those children-kudos to you, but not all men think like that. HEwanted the baby, and girlfriends on the side. I didn't want H.I.V
Look. All I'm saying is I know men can be trifling. Over the years I've told women about the ways of men. But alas there's another side of the equasion I forgot about that took years to realize until it happened to me between the late 1990s to 2002. That is women can also be trifling and VERY few women are willing to admit that. What happened to you is a shame but I just don't believe that all men are abandoning their babies. Not from what I've seen. And thanks for replying.
yes men are rape monsters and women have no say what goes inbetween their legs and they cant make proper judgement if they should use birthcontroll or not women are magical fairies and men are trolls who should be exploited constantly that in itself isnt biased or unfair right if you ever want to see the example of a hypocrite look at a modern feminist they want equal pay but superiority in every other aspect like exemption from the draft and the other huge perks about being a woman in society
Classic Deadbeat STATEMENT. Keep feeling sorry for yourself and your actions.
It sounds as though you're upset that you're not a woman. Instead of blaming other entities, take some responsibility for yourself, and any children you helped to create when you were being treated so unfair in that womans bed. You were treated so unfair that you went on to make yourself a supposed victim by not using a condom. Heh, should have had a rubber, then you wouldn't have to blubber.
I have no idea what I am talking about! I can only draw my conlusions about this issue from he said/she said type stuff. I am guessing how this whole thing works with kids and all because I DO NOT SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE.
Thank you , and come again when you actually know something about anything.
Why HE didn't take precautions? IF two people are sexually active, I think it's the responsibility of BOTH parties to take precautions. Someone needs to bring the rubber, diaphragm etc. I understand that we live in a world where not everyone is forthcoming about their motives, which further promotes my point. People are too quick to point fingers before they take their part any given situation. IF you're sexually involved with someone you can't trust, WRAP IT UP!
Yeah they do or you never knew them at all. People lie and pretend to be someone they're not. Plenty of women have intentionally gotten pregnant to hang on to a man or to get his money. In those cases, the system fails. I believe the system works when you work it and when we fail, the system fails. The two adults can come to an alterior agreement despite what the courts say, but a lot of times, it doesn' t work that way. People get hurt and act out of revenge instead what's best for their kids.
I totally agree with you i mean as time change the situation changed so i had to do what it took but i never blamed her totally cause i had to lay down just like she did
Well, it's good to men who take responsibiblity for themselves because the doosh bag who started this whole thread sure doesn't. Matter of fact, he believes it's the woman's fault if she gets pregant because he's only the sperm doner and condoms only protect women!
My kids do have their dad in their life, matter of fact they just spent spring break with him. he still needs to pay but im not worried he just got out of prison and hasnt paid since he got out and the judge told his ass! so i cant even be worried about him, he will screw himself.
think about it if you dont pay your bills, rent, or what ever .i will take your job, licensce, and freedom , and you might loose your passport. be hoonest this sounds like CHILD SUPPORT EXTORTION . yes or no
No it doesn't sound like extortion. It sounds like a warning of things to come if you continue to not help support a child you helped create. In a perfect world both parents would support the child with out having to have the responsibilities outlined by the courts. But we don't live in a perfect world, and the founding fathers felt it essential to adapt Englands poor laws into the new country.
my daughters has been with me in my house for 3years, the state still has me on child surpport. I still pay the mother,where ever she is. and if i get behind its to jail i go! I lose my job, house, then who going to support my baby? And theycall it child support!!!!
And how much arrears did you stack up before they came to live with you? Why haven't you taken yourself down to the child support office and get an order of change in the payor? Did you do anything to help yourself? Did you file a modification. Since there is already an active order for support, the amount to no longer be paid can be backdated to when you got custody.
im not sure it was over 2000 $. I did go down to S.p office, with the childs mother, she testifield that i do take ccareof the baby 99 percent of the time, The jugde wasnt hearing it and told me no matter what i better pay child support. I went back with a lawyer and got it lowered when i was really trying to get off c.s. What should be my next step
Your next step should be to go to the Circut court and file papers establishing custody, and you as the custodial parent. Once YOU GET THE CUSTODY ORDER SIGNED, GO RIGHT DOWN TO CHILD SUPPORT AND FILE FOR A CHANGE OF PAYEE. If the judge still refuses to acknowledge you as the custodial parent, you have grounds to sue for bias, sex descrimination, and abuse of power by a public official.
what if i we have to go to court ?most of the time men lose these types of cases, And i know that the mother would put up a fight becuz she is getting food stamps and gorverment assistants. Thats why i dont have custosy now.
Then she is lying to the government to collect assistance for children not residing with her. You should go and file for assistance for the children. If there is no custody established then possession being 9/10's of the law applies to who is in possession of the children. Get neighbor statements, and take those with you. They will take away her state assistance, and she will be required to pay it back. She would have to prove you don't have the kids so avoid giving them to her.
No prob. I don't think everyman is a deadbeat. I know a few single fathers, so I know you have to prove you are the caregiver. Mother's should be responsible, not just the father. I do it all by myself for my son. I'm raising a boy to be a man, and I can't stand women that raise thier children to live off of the state. I instill morals, and a sense of worth into my son so he will be a good man one day. When the time comes I hope he'll protect hmself so he doesn't end up a baby daddy. Good luck.
I feel you should have to work for a living, and I don't condone accepting government handouts as opposed to working for a living. Just apply for medical assistance, and that will start the ball rolling.
you would have sound better if you left out all the verbal assaults, he was talking to you like a women. you started make your self look very bad. yet i do agree wit some of your points and respect you. It seems you have alot of build up anger for the childs dad. take it form me is best to let it go. Being a mother in taking classes and working , thats the same thang my mother went threw . So i have alot of respect 4 u!
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44AlphaMale44 9 months ago
I believe that a portion of any amount of child support should automatically go into an interest bearing account in the child's name. That will insure that the support isnt being used to get mom's hair and nails done. That is whats happening to most support money given to the custodial parent (mostly mothers). It is "child support" not mommy support for her own personal gain. Also they need to start showing bills of sale for any item other than food that they spent money on in raising the child.
MrStarchild2 9 months ago
I pay 350 dollars a month , I recently fell behind and now am looking at 6months in jail. I have 2 other kids that live with me that will be punished for 1. I completely agree with childsupport , but if she doesn't have a job why am I looking at jail time? Childsupport is a system to punish the none custodian parent as if they are criminals. Childsupport in no shape is fair and reasonable.
I only hope that her time will come and she can wonder how she can support her family with whats left.
mefit1 10 months ago
@mefit1 350 a month was decided off a 6.25 a hour fulltime job with no overtimes and of course she had no job all three trials.
mefit1 10 months ago
Support your freaking kids!
CollectChildSupport 11 months ago
@CollectChildSupport Get your freakin DNA right and stop PATERNITY FRAUD free rides for welfaraholic scammin mammys.
atmdaddy 6 months ago
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JwGacey1 1 year ago
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I do have a solution for this issue of child support and I am from Texas. I need the support of all to change this problem but we are going to need to work together. IT CAN BE CHANGED! We just have to be serious about it. Believe me, I am going through it and will fight for you. Will you fight for me?
I am on facebook. Look up Group: Help Promote Child Support Reform. Please add as member and I will get you a googlewave account and join the discussion.
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yablinded 1 year ago
childsupport is a way for the goverment whont pay the food stamps or medical or money back in the 80s there was no childsupport and those in need they have to help when u go to warefare the first thing they do is put the other party in childsupport cuz the goverment is taking our taxes and were our are taxes they say the economy is bad but we pay our own foodstamp medical bills or cash WERE OUR FUCKING TAXES ARE ?
rocky3557 1 year ago
being onest childsupport is a way for the goverment take money from us cuz back in the 80s there was no child support and the goverment will pay for everything this is just a way for the goverment to take money from the father or mother to give us food stamp and all this bullshit cuz when u go to warefare for help the first thing they do is put the other party in childsupport is just a way for the goverment not to help were are our taxes going to then ?
rocky3557 1 year ago
CHILD SUPPORT SUCKS! Period.
SPARKWISDOM 2 years ago
I just have to say that when the "mans pill" comes out , ladies watch out, Your free ride is over! And the best part is,men won't just have the pill, they will have several methods of contraception.
I want my son to not have kids until HE is ready, not some horny little vixen who wants to trap him and ruin his life. I think men having a pill will help, but the "corrupt legal system" will have to be cleaned up and likely those who are responsible for the huge mess will have to be punished.
unclefixer 2 years ago
But no one is thinking about this were they're tryna get a nut....
lss121576 2 years ago
they just don't care we must do something about this read the book breaking the cruse of willie lynch
DEVELOPINGSTORY12 2 years ago
I was not ready to be a father and the mother decided to have the child, not me.
It is now up to her to raise the child.
im1greatman 2 years ago
Are you serious!?
You were not ready to be a father? I can't believe you would have unprotected sex, knowing that pregnancy can result from that!!!!
So now that hind sight is 20/20, you feel you aren't responsible for that which you help to create???
I must give KUDOS to your MOTHER for raising such a man.....NOT!
lunarchick77 2 years ago
Think about it.
How much does a man really have to say when it comes to "creating" something? Only laying between the legs, after that its up to the mother if she wishes to have the child.
The man is completely cut of from any decision making before, during or after the pregnancy in our society. Remember, condoms are NOT 100% so please think before you throw accusations out their as if you know me.
im1greatman 2 years ago
I NEVER said I knew YOU, just your type.
If you are not ready for grown folks responsibility, don't do grown foks things-like have sex.
If you are not ready for the reaction your action causes, refrain from the action to ensure no reaction.
Condoms ARE 100% effective when you OMIT HUMAN ERROR!
So, how much say do you have before conception? Unless she held a gun to your head, and forced you to spill seed in her, you had the power to use protection. Don't cry about what is 1/2 your making.
lunarchick77 2 years ago
It goes both ways but I'm a man that can make my own decisions. I don't have to deal with something I don't want to. That's as simple as I can put it.
I know your type though, it's all the mans fault. You decide to have the kid but the man needs to be there because you say so. I say the hell with that.
im1greatman 2 years ago
Actually, it is both ADULTS that need to step up and take care of their kids! If you helped make the child, why would you not be expected in helping to take care of the child?
Yeah, your mother should have never had you, that's for sure.
The man doesn't need to be there, but it is only right that he is. Mothers do it regardless if the man is there or not. Most can not say it is the other way around.
Really, you shouldn't have sex, you are not grown up enough to do so.
lunarchick77 2 years ago
I don't have no children but in all my 42yrs on this planet I've known and saw men who had to deal with child support. The law chasing them down, the women after them. I have to wonder about this so-called "he abandoned this child" bullcrap be first of all that's A LOT of men doing that especially black men. What's the real reason behind this? Is it true? Or is it the man didn't really want the child in the first place no matter what she wanted. Could he have been tricked?
cjjaxxon 2 years ago
You have no children, so how can you possibly understand any of this?
lunarchick77 2 years ago
It don't matter. I've dealt with women who pulled those kinda tricks, knew women with multipal children by different fathers and dated a few women who were up to no good. I'm blessed to not have had children by these women. In my life time , and I figure I'm a bit older than you, I've met only TWO women who were worthy of my child if it had went that way. That ain't sayin' much for the human race Lunarchick77. Why have a baby if the MAN don't want one?
cjjaxxon 2 years ago
Instead of asking that, you should ask why he didn't take procautions, and why did he go on to make 5 more kids? My son is the oldest of 6 kids and he is 6years old. 6 kids, 6 mothers, and you claim women are the problem? Women worthy of your child? Seriously? So I guess you don't go around having unprotected sex, procreating, then crying about the responsibiity to those children-kudos to you, but not all men think like that. HEwanted the baby, and girlfriends on the side. I didn't want H.I.V
lunarchick77 2 years ago
Look. All I'm saying is I know men can be trifling. Over the years I've told women about the ways of men. But alas there's another side of the equasion I forgot about that took years to realize until it happened to me between the late 1990s to 2002. That is women can also be trifling and VERY few women are willing to admit that. What happened to you is a shame but I just don't believe that all men are abandoning their babies. Not from what I've seen. And thanks for replying.
cjjaxxon 2 years ago
yes men are rape monsters and women have no say what goes inbetween their legs and they cant make proper judgement if they should use birthcontroll or not women are magical fairies and men are trolls who should be exploited constantly that in itself isnt biased or unfair right if you ever want to see the example of a hypocrite look at a modern feminist they want equal pay but superiority in every other aspect like exemption from the draft and the other huge perks about being a woman in society
killgore333333 2 years ago
Classic Deadbeat STATEMENT. Keep feeling sorry for yourself and your actions.
It sounds as though you're upset that you're not a woman. Instead of blaming other entities, take some responsibility for yourself, and any children you helped to create when you were being treated so unfair in that womans bed. You were treated so unfair that you went on to make yourself a supposed victim by not using a condom. Heh, should have had a rubber, then you wouldn't have to blubber.
lunarchick77 2 years ago
i dont have anykids and i dont plan to
most women arent worthy of having my children because most women are vain and moneyhungry power tripping sluts
which is better then what you are making yourself up to be
when i have sex i allways makesure that no child can and will be created
if you think of me by stereotypes i will do the same for you
all i was saying is if the man dosent want a child and the woman does they are seperate fucking people and one shouldent rule the other
killgore333333 2 years ago
Translation:
I have no idea what I am talking about! I can only draw my conlusions about this issue from he said/she said type stuff. I am guessing how this whole thing works with kids and all because I DO NOT SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE.
Thank you , and come again when you actually know something about anything.
lunarchick77 2 years ago
Why HE didn't take precautions? IF two people are sexually active, I think it's the responsibility of BOTH parties to take precautions. Someone needs to bring the rubber, diaphragm etc. I understand that we live in a world where not everyone is forthcoming about their motives, which further promotes my point. People are too quick to point fingers before they take their part any given situation. IF you're sexually involved with someone you can't trust, WRAP IT UP!
QueenLioness84 2 years ago
Why would you sleep with someone you can't trust?
lunarchick77 2 years ago
I couldn't tell you! I sure as hell wouldn't, but people do it everyday.
QueenLioness84 2 years ago 2
well actually people do change over time and grow apart
fatmac901 2 years ago
Yeah they do or you never knew them at all. People lie and pretend to be someone they're not. Plenty of women have intentionally gotten pregnant to hang on to a man or to get his money. In those cases, the system fails. I believe the system works when you work it and when we fail, the system fails. The two adults can come to an alterior agreement despite what the courts say, but a lot of times, it doesn' t work that way. People get hurt and act out of revenge instead what's best for their kids.
QueenLioness84 2 years ago
I totally agree with you i mean as time change the situation changed so i had to do what it took but i never blamed her totally cause i had to lay down just like she did
fatmac901 2 years ago
Well, it's good to men who take responsibiblity for themselves because the doosh bag who started this whole thread sure doesn't. Matter of fact, he believes it's the woman's fault if she gets pregant because he's only the sperm doner and condoms only protect women!
QueenLioness84 2 years ago
My kids do have their dad in their life, matter of fact they just spent spring break with him. he still needs to pay but im not worried he just got out of prison and hasnt paid since he got out and the judge told his ass! so i cant even be worried about him, he will screw himself.
TEISHASALON 2 years ago
think about it if you dont pay your bills, rent, or what ever .i will take your job, licensce, and freedom , and you might loose your passport. be hoonest this sounds like CHILD SUPPORT EXTORTION . yes or no
gregoree1 2 years ago
No it doesn't sound like extortion. It sounds like a warning of things to come if you continue to not help support a child you helped create. In a perfect world both parents would support the child with out having to have the responsibilities outlined by the courts. But we don't live in a perfect world, and the founding fathers felt it essential to adapt Englands poor laws into the new country.
lunarchick77 2 years ago
my daughters has been with me in my house for 3years, the state still has me on child surpport. I still pay the mother,where ever she is. and if i get behind its to jail i go! I lose my job, house, then who going to support my baby? And theycall it child support!!!!
gregoree1 2 years ago
And how much arrears did you stack up before they came to live with you? Why haven't you taken yourself down to the child support office and get an order of change in the payor? Did you do anything to help yourself? Did you file a modification. Since there is already an active order for support, the amount to no longer be paid can be backdated to when you got custody.
lunarchick77 2 years ago
im not sure it was over 2000 $. I did go down to S.p office, with the childs mother, she testifield that i do take ccareof the baby 99 percent of the time, The jugde wasnt hearing it and told me no matter what i better pay child support. I went back with a lawyer and got it lowered when i was really trying to get off c.s. What should be my next step
gregoree1 2 years ago
Your next step should be to go to the Circut court and file papers establishing custody, and you as the custodial parent. Once YOU GET THE CUSTODY ORDER SIGNED, GO RIGHT DOWN TO CHILD SUPPORT AND FILE FOR A CHANGE OF PAYEE. If the judge still refuses to acknowledge you as the custodial parent, you have grounds to sue for bias, sex descrimination, and abuse of power by a public official.
lunarchick77 2 years ago
what if i we have to go to court ?most of the time men lose these types of cases, And i know that the mother would put up a fight becuz she is getting food stamps and gorverment assistants. Thats why i dont have custosy now.
gregoree1 2 years ago
Then she is lying to the government to collect assistance for children not residing with her. You should go and file for assistance for the children. If there is no custody established then possession being 9/10's of the law applies to who is in possession of the children. Get neighbor statements, and take those with you. They will take away her state assistance, and she will be required to pay it back. She would have to prove you don't have the kids so avoid giving them to her.
lunarchick77 2 years ago
that sound good. THANKS FOR THE TALK. I HOPE THAT YOU SEE THAT EVER MEN IS AN DEADBEAT . AND GOOD LUCK WITH RAISING THAT PRETTY LIL GIRL .
gregoree1 2 years ago
No prob. I don't think everyman is a deadbeat. I know a few single fathers, so I know you have to prove you are the caregiver. Mother's should be responsible, not just the father. I do it all by myself for my son. I'm raising a boy to be a man, and I can't stand women that raise thier children to live off of the state. I instill morals, and a sense of worth into my son so he will be a good man one day. When the time comes I hope he'll protect hmself so he doesn't end up a baby daddy. Good luck.
lunarchick77 2 years ago
I feel you should have to work for a living, and I don't condone accepting government handouts as opposed to working for a living. Just apply for medical assistance, and that will start the ball rolling.
lunarchick77 2 years ago
you would have sound better if you left out all the verbal assaults, he was talking to you like a women. you started make your self look very bad. yet i do agree wit some of your points and respect you. It seems you have alot of build up anger for the childs dad. take it form me is best to let it go. Being a mother in taking classes and working , thats the same thang my mother went threw . So i have alot of respect 4 u!
gregoree1 2 years ago
Great points. I am glad you put this vid up thanks.
Chevrobert 2 years ago
Amen....AMEN....Dude me and you need to drink a beer sometime.
lyo1984 3 years ago
Houston stand up, good shit big dog!
coreydmont 3 years ago