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  • They studied if the people who never learned language can learn language ever. They discovered that you can learn a language beyond those years. After the grants were over. The girl was put back into the foster care system. I feel really worried about the girl. I hope she turned out well.Guess what, she the researcher got grants prestige and for promotion, so what would you make of this case?

  • @kazakhstanmkj Very sad story. It sounds like this girl was taken advantage of by the researcher and the system. I hope there was a happier ending down the road. Too many Deaf people get hurt through no fault of their own.

  • There was this one case in which there was this girl who never learned language from the developmental years. Her mom was deaf. He father tied his daughter to a chair and blind flooded her for most of her developmental years. He was an abusive father. The deaf mum tried to free the daughter. They got help with the social workers. When the socials discovered the strange situation. There were researchers who came in to study about the girl who never develop language.

  • Some things are obviously for self-interest than of course for the betterment of the community. Actually most activities we pursue are selfish. We want a family children a spouse love a career all these aspects are personally driven. How does a person distinguish what a person wants to opposed to things of what you mentioned? I feel confused. I want to become a doctor to help people. Two reasons, I love science and I love humanity. A two way street. I do honestly understand your concern.

  • @kazakhstanmkj Agreed, self-interest motivates us in many things we do. There is nothing inherently wrong with self-interest, just that it can sometimes be the only reason hearing researchers study Deaf people. That is where we draw the line.

  • I met a psychologist who was counseling me, that used my information for her own person self-interest, doing private research. I hate these things. I cannot believe it.

  • @kazakhstanmkj I am sorry that your psychologist used your information without your permission. Any psychologist who uses information from work should change personal/identiable information so nobody will recognize who the person is. If it is too recognizable, permission is required.

  • I did not know researchers had those types of self-interest. I guess I am silly to believe everyone want to really help.I am supportive of research if it is for like maybe to see if we can regrow a thigh in a science lab to help rebuild back someones body. Those things I can be ok with. Some things I am not like psychological research or things like you mentioned.

  • Hello, Candance  That great explain what your thought and should our deaf community show out of hearing world to get know about us not invisible (not see). Hearing people know about deafness or hear loss but not think of deaf people have a life, ASL, can do everything, etc. Plus rather a person who is deaf studies to deaf community and more understand than hearing person who studies because not deaf person. I complete agree with you! Also, let hearing world about deaf people are normal!

    by Tam

  • Hey Candance, this is one GREAT vlog and should be put into all Deaf videos, Deafhood Discussions in FB, have this rerun again, this is important and a reminder to all of us that we're not monkeys to be studied on by the hearings...but by our own Deaf people who understands us far better than the hearings who sees us on the outside and assuming this or that about us. This vlog is an eye opener, big time! Don't know why I hadn't seen this til now!! Glad you didn't remove this vlog! Keep it here!!

  • True, a person's status (hearing/deaf) may be very relevant to the study being undertaken. More important are the qualifications the individual brings to bear on the process in guarding against bias and ensuring validity rings true. I am always wary of segregation and any suggestion that persons who are not part of a cultural/social group are ill-equipped to conduct balanced and worthwhile research. [Disclosure: I am 'hearing' by the way, and I have taught in schools for the deaf for many years]

  • @iamdakey Definitely, your concerns about bias and validity are well-taken. Still, we think it is equally important to have a Deaf researcher on board when research is focused on Deaf-related topics. Something to think about: why are people, especially hearing people, so quick to assume that a Deaf researcher studying Deaf people is likely to be biased and forsake validity? Where is the same concern about hearing researchers studying Deaf people?

  • @ASCDEAF My point was not that one group of persons is more prone to bias than another. Qualif./experience should be the criterion debated. A (deaf) professor critiqued a paper I had submitted to him & joked with me "..and imagine, I am deaf." That hadn't even entered my mind. He is a PROFESSOR with sound English lang skills, & I respected his accomplishments. I totally agree that deaf persons should be included in research about the Deaf community. Qualified hearing researchers have a place 2

  • Yeah!! Thats what Im talking about!!!! I have forever been struggling to voice this issue out, the " sterotyping" amongest ourselves in deaf community... thats something hearing will never get. Just like one had experienced being pregnant and giving birth to a child, when the other never expeirenced it. How can i explain that to that person what it was like... UNLESS THEY HAVE EXPEREICED it they will get it until then they dont. Same with Deafness. TIME TO VOICE! You go girl!

  • Very good vlog. You are right!

  • great another educator to look at! look forwarding to your educational issues via vlogs!

  • wow , you make us very inspirited on your speech perfect and thank you for your explain about it .. i learn something and agree with you should be nice put on name - Hearing or Deaf either ...

  • I love to study all cultures, Deaf is another culture that I love because it is so diverse and there is so much to learn and I'm always learning more I'm never bored. I like to learn everything. I do understand your point :) thank you for posting this !

  • I really wish there were articles on this too! I am trying to write a paper on this topic, but I can't find anything. This is the best thing I have found, but idk if my teacher will accept it. I love what you had to say, and I totally agree with you! I am hearing, but in love with deaf culture and ASL. I am studying to be an interpreter now at RIT/NTID. :-)

  • hey there it is a true ASL of our langauge ever !!! that abuse and abusive there ,so agbell did pressuring out of deaf in private our school on even so each states too cuz agbell want put into a mainstreaming in hearing school. that cochlear implants is a dangerous to your health and they cant role in any sports and that shame of there so parent deaf and parent hearing isnot honor by deaf our children cause hurting deaf our community future ever !!!

  • yeah, i hope so too, because i am 85% hearing loss, i was born like this, and i totally love it, because i know sign langugae and i can speak like "normal" people, alot ppl are againest to deaf ppl because they think we're not normal, we're creatures, we're not. we're just human being. i hope all the people will accept us, and study deaf ppl because it's amazing experinece, no lie here.

    i totally love being deaf. <3

  • i wish there were subtitles. i'm hearing, and i don't understand any sign language but i'm interested in what she has to say...

  • trust me, few of hearing didn't put some subtitles too that I wish to understand as well.

  • agree with it

  • I wish there were subtitles - I'm okay in BSL, but I just don't know that much ASL, don't know if what I'm seeing is 'hard' or 'pointless'.

    H.

  • I'd also check out the deaf researchers, too. Some of them are latened-deaf and might not support the Deaf Culture.

    The deaf researchers should study the hearing people. I would love to know why they consider us burdensome when in reality they are burdensome to us by discriminating and prejudging us, refusing to learn sign language even after we learn to speak, so on. Also I would love to know why they have a bent on their deaf child's ability to hear. I think they are in denial.

  • well, i am 84% deaf, alot ppl are againest to us, they think we're creatures, but its whatever they're just a horrible people. they should learn, and its a wonderful experience to go through, i mean i love my life! im 85% hearing loss, i have amazing bf, amazing friends, i know sign languge, i know what that woman said, so yeah. i just think ppl should stop being againest to us, and yeah.

  • There's a historical thing that goes back to eugenics - which looked really shiny at the time. 'you can only have babies if you're tall, straight, perfect in all ways'.

    If you wanted to have grandchildren, your child had to be taught how to look tall, straight, perfect in all ways, and hide every dam' thing that didn't fit.

  • true fact hearing white people tend do

    study on

    deaf

    blind

    black

    jews

    retard

    ect like that...

    really white people are fucked up since jesus were born... come on we all are human know that???

  • WOW! Many of what u said, I never thought of it but very educational. I learn something abd I truly agreed with u most of what u said. I believe the otheres should see this vlog. I will share this with deaf community. THUMP UP! WELL JOB DONE!

  • Awesome insights! I certainly hope that your insights will come true for us all.

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