It would be tremendous to see a Limpack benchmark, Folding@ Home and such kind of things to envision the technological capabilities of this new CPU though.
Indeed, Intel Nehalem-EX to have eight cores, not only the software is advancing at a speed of a turtle, but it recently released six-core Intel Xeon, which has not completed a year in sales yet. Now if Intel makes the successor of the Xeon, the difference lies in the fact that implements two cores more, when compared to the previous six... Unlike its predecessors, the Nehalem is expensive and dedicated for professional enterprises.
what do you mean DDR3 ram? ddr3 acts exactly the same as ddr2 and ddr, it just has more data throughput, decreasing loading times etc, when i made the jump to ddr3 the difference i saw was substantial. and played quite a few games and saw mass activity across my 4 cores aswell.
I don´t own DDR3 memory on my computer, but I saw evidence that achieves significant improvements in performance at low voltage levels, which leads to a decrease in overall consumer spending. At first they were not so good, of course. AMD shouldn´t have passed in their day to DDR2 as it did for DDR memory and marketing will be better. Then DDR2 up speed was improved Mhz. The same with DDR3.
That might be because intel finally made the jump to move the memory controller directly on to the processor die. previous ddr and ddr2 generation arch had the memory controller outside. Its a shame because designers now cant choose the memory types to use with this processor but for the end user its a sure leap in high bandwidth. Not as much as it could be mind you.
erm, DDR3 RAM just means its running at faster frequencies, which thus means the bandwidth is much greater. That means applications are cached faster. There is no program that does fully use RAM.
That's not the truth. If a program can make use of multicore proccessors, then it can make use of any number of cores. No software designer designs a program that only runs on a specific number of cores.
very very true. Intel keep bragging about this chip being scalable but at £1200.00($1700.00) per processor of 4 cores 8 threads this is not a practical processor. to produce petaflop speed with this arch requires still too much power, still way to much size and price.
Amdahl's law puts a limit to the useful number of processors for any computation. Some processes for instance reading an input file are typically single threaded, even if subsequent computation on that data may be parallelized,
there may be a useful number of processors but 4 cores is still a low number of cores. if the program is threaded well enough, it should make use of all those cores. we dun design programs to use only certain cores. we design it to be threaded and let a system to handle those threads
Are you trying to somehow state that consoles are more powerful than PCs? Because your statement does the opposite. An array of PS3s is nothing compared to an array of latest gen processor stocked PCs. Stop trying to justify your purchase of a cheap blu-ray player.
If you're not stating the above, then you're comment really is pointless. As pointless as saying trillions of people thinking together can do what a processor does.
Actually I am aware of FAH. And your reasoning is flawed.
Yes, cell processors are steaming calculation solvers and are much faster in solving mathematical calculations than PC cpus. BUT, declaring that PS3s are more powerful than PCs because streaming cell procs calculate faster than normal CPUs is plain wrong. PS3s utilize both their GPU and cell procs to solve the FAH calculations. PCs utilize either their CPU or their GPUs.
They have ATI GPUs Nvidia GPUs and PS3s. I will point to the Nvidia and PS3 numbers as the difference in active units is closer than ATI vs PS3.
NVIDIA GPU: 1807 TFLOPS 16431 Active
PS3: 1665 TFLOPS 59038 Active
There are 42,607 more active PS3 cpu units than there are of Nvidias. Yet, Nvidia GPUs are pumping out more TFLOPs than your PS3s. This is why consoles will NEVER be more powerful than PCs; PCs are simply more flexible.
Thanks but I am really not disputing you. You will notice that my very second comment (about guessing) was admitting that I was not really serious anyway. Just thought I'd get a rise out of someone for fun. Kind of a drive-by remark.
Ok well, I just took this issue seriously because there are a good number of people who truly believe consoles "pwn" pcs. Just annoys me for some reason.
No hard feelings =) and the 8800 is a very respectable card =)
that ain't pricey man. anyways, i never had a computer of my own and i have been stuck with my bro's hp pavillion dv1000 (the 05 model *pukes*). I really wana play some games and watch HD or blu-ray movies and render homemade clips. But the waiting for the i7 is hard but it's close anyways so i think i can hold on to this piece of crap until it launches :P
this video is just another prove among many many others that it is the so called non-americans the one that are responsible for technology development- ..and these indians are bought straight from India, .. US is funny, you don't have your own scientist now don't ya? ..
2:00 Lost Planet is one of the best looking games and technically way beyond other games in this generation.
HongKongKanto 2 years ago
It would be tremendous to see a Limpack benchmark, Folding@ Home and such kind of things to envision the technological capabilities of this new CPU though.
SonicNeary 2 years ago
too bad there's only a few pc games that actually make use of quad core, let alone 8 cores. Same thing with DDR3 RAM.
Developers aren't going to make games for your expensive hardware when hardly anyone owns it.
now if you're going to do demanding tasks other than gaming it would help to have this cpu.
v4ginav0mit 2 years ago 6
Indeed, Intel Nehalem-EX to have eight cores, not only the software is advancing at a speed of a turtle, but it recently released six-core Intel Xeon, which has not completed a year in sales yet. Now if Intel makes the successor of the Xeon, the difference lies in the fact that implements two cores more, when compared to the previous six... Unlike its predecessors, the Nehalem is expensive and dedicated for professional enterprises.
SonicNeary 2 years ago
nice to see SOMEONE knows there stuff, i see so many peoples comments on youtube riddled with incorrect information i just want to go bang
carrot5000 2 years ago
what do you mean DDR3 ram? ddr3 acts exactly the same as ddr2 and ddr, it just has more data throughput, decreasing loading times etc, when i made the jump to ddr3 the difference i saw was substantial. and played quite a few games and saw mass activity across my 4 cores aswell.
carrot5000 2 years ago
I don´t own DDR3 memory on my computer, but I saw evidence that achieves significant improvements in performance at low voltage levels, which leads to a decrease in overall consumer spending. At first they were not so good, of course. AMD shouldn´t have passed in their day to DDR2 as it did for DDR memory and marketing will be better. Then DDR2 up speed was improved Mhz. The same with DDR3.
SonicNeary 2 years ago
That might be because intel finally made the jump to move the memory controller directly on to the processor die. previous ddr and ddr2 generation arch had the memory controller outside. Its a shame because designers now cant choose the memory types to use with this processor but for the end user its a sure leap in high bandwidth. Not as much as it could be mind you.
fireicer 2 years ago
nehalem is a hyper threading quad core its not actually 8 physical cores.
nxmoparmatt84 2 years ago
erm, DDR3 RAM just means its running at faster frequencies, which thus means the bandwidth is much greater. That means applications are cached faster. There is no program that does fully use RAM.
FSFchannel 2 years ago
does not* i meant at the end.
FSFchannel 2 years ago
That's not the truth. If a program can make use of multicore proccessors, then it can make use of any number of cores. No software designer designs a program that only runs on a specific number of cores.
lampuiho 2 years ago
very very true. Intel keep bragging about this chip being scalable but at £1200.00($1700.00) per processor of 4 cores 8 threads this is not a practical processor. to produce petaflop speed with this arch requires still too much power, still way to much size and price.
fireicer 2 years ago
Amdahl's law puts a limit to the useful number of processors for any computation. Some processes for instance reading an input file are typically single threaded, even if subsequent computation on that data may be parallelized,
chrisc62 2 years ago
that is stupid of course some programs can only use 2 cores if that is what they are coded for, u r talking smack
shearerforgold 1 year ago
@shearerforgold
there may be a useful number of processors but 4 cores is still a low number of cores. if the program is threaded well enough, it should make use of all those cores. we dun design programs to use only certain cores. we design it to be threaded and let a system to handle those threads
lampuiho 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I want Intel to start making narcotics and Nvidia to start making hallucinogens.
NoahLDiamond 2 years ago
1:56 Lost Planet supports 8cores <3 thats why the corei7 is better on it
HongKongKanto 2 years ago
1:10 I want one of those for a dinner plate
operationturkey 2 years ago
they should compare this with
a AMD 9950BE gaming rig
and show us the fps between the two.
2point6x4 3 years ago
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mast3rmind16 2 years ago
? your message is upside down. lol
2point6x4 2 years ago
AMD is 900$ cheaper
2point6x4 3 years ago
The Intel core i7 920 is about 300$ so I really doubt that you can buy a CPU for -600$
No AMD does not pay you to buy they CPU... well... not yet...
KawazoeJapan 2 years ago
Yeah, the latest and greatest chips cost just under $900 so you can't save $900....
It used to be that AMD was cheaper for comparable processors, but now Intels chips are just better hands down, both for mid-range and top end chips.
neverfearchrisishere 2 years ago
I have a core i7 and in my videos you can view some benchmarks with it and also 4870x2 crossfire.
gamerro25 3 years ago
An array of PS3s can already do this.
Entropy56 3 years ago
Too bad for you that he's talking about just ONE CHIP and not an ARRAY OF COMPUTERS...
True... an array of PS3 can already handle that... I'm doing it with JUST ONE COMPUTER!
makumo 3 years ago
"True... an array of PS3 can already handle that..."
Really? I was just guessing.
Entropy56 3 years ago
Are you trying to somehow state that consoles are more powerful than PCs? Because your statement does the opposite. An array of PS3s is nothing compared to an array of latest gen processor stocked PCs. Stop trying to justify your purchase of a cheap blu-ray player.
If you're not stating the above, then you're comment really is pointless. As pointless as saying trillions of people thinking together can do what a processor does.
xsfslayer 3 years ago
You probably are not aware of folding@home.
The PS3 is 10x to 20x faster doing this task.
It kicks the PS's ass.
Entropy56 3 years ago
correction: Kicks the PCs ass.
Entropy56 3 years ago
Actually I am aware of FAH. And your reasoning is flawed.
Yes, cell processors are steaming calculation solvers and are much faster in solving mathematical calculations than PC cpus. BUT, declaring that PS3s are more powerful than PCs because streaming cell procs calculate faster than normal CPUs is plain wrong. PS3s utilize both their GPU and cell procs to solve the FAH calculations. PCs utilize either their CPU or their GPUs.
xsfslayer 3 years ago
Look at the statistics on FAH's website.
They have ATI GPUs Nvidia GPUs and PS3s. I will point to the Nvidia and PS3 numbers as the difference in active units is closer than ATI vs PS3.
NVIDIA GPU: 1807 TFLOPS 16431 Active
PS3: 1665 TFLOPS 59038 Active
There are 42,607 more active PS3 cpu units than there are of Nvidias. Yet, Nvidia GPUs are pumping out more TFLOPs than your PS3s. This is why consoles will NEVER be more powerful than PCs; PCs are simply more flexible.
xsfslayer 3 years ago
If you still wish to be ignorant, I will send you the link via youtube's message system as the comment box won't allow me to post links.
xsfslayer 3 years ago
I just finished Resistance 2. Great game.
Entropy56 3 years ago
Ah saw the trailers and the huge boss battles. I wish to play :).
xsfslayer 3 years ago
I have a GeForce 8800GT but got the PS3 mainly for Blu-ray. I picked up a couple of games to keep me entertained for a while.
ciao.
Entropy56 3 years ago
And I can't send you the link as your settings only allow friends to message you. Ill try posting on your page.
xsfslayer 3 years ago
Thanks but I am really not disputing you. You will notice that my very second comment (about guessing) was admitting that I was not really serious anyway. Just thought I'd get a rise out of someone for fun. Kind of a drive-by remark.
Entropy56 3 years ago
Ok well, I just took this issue seriously because there are a good number of people who truly believe consoles "pwn" pcs. Just annoys me for some reason.
No hard feelings =) and the 8800 is a very respectable card =)
xsfslayer 3 years ago
very good
mpramji 3 years ago
why name nehalem???...
why not olmert i7
raydenPGD111 3 years ago 2
this cpu for jews...
raydenPGD111 3 years ago
Of course you aren't.... performance is secondary to you.
Bjingles3 3 years ago 2
i'm planning on getting a custom computer but i think it's worth the wait for the nehalem to come :)
Joseborikua 3 years ago
prepare to frok over a lot of money for that core i7
DgtlOutcst 3 years ago
and for the motherboard.
DgtlOutcst 3 years ago
that ain't pricey man. anyways, i never had a computer of my own and i have been stuck with my bro's hp pavillion dv1000 (the 05 model *pukes*). I really wana play some games and watch HD or blu-ray movies and render homemade clips. But the waiting for the i7 is hard but it's close anyways so i think i can hold on to this piece of crap until it launches :P
Joseborikua 3 years ago
nehalem is not that expensive, last i heard intel priced it ( the cheapest version) at around 300 dollars
RawWasWar 3 years ago
The entry level Nehalem might be that expensive but you have to remember that you also are going to need a good motherboard as well.
broken121589 3 years ago
buy entry level and overclock it.......
SerialDiscrepancy 3 years ago
Exactly what imma do.
EliteSoldier112 3 years ago
this video is just another prove among many many others that it is the so called non-americans the one that are responsible for technology development- ..and these indians are bought straight from India, .. US is funny, you don't have your own scientist now don't ya? ..
Sarasu23 3 years ago
why you bashing the US?
Jay12341235 3 years ago 4
The Nehalem system was slower than the Harpertown.
LessthanJake14 3 years ago
And how do you know?
cthomann 3 years ago
Looked at the screens.
LessthanJake14 3 years ago
Nehalem is a Michael Phelps on silicon lolz
doseryder 3 years ago 9
indian yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
shubhamranjan 3 years ago
NEHALEM = R.I.P. AMD
AleXzibiT 3 years ago 10
No overclocking low end chips = loss of alot of purchases. AMD Deneb looks really impressive too. And Nahalem is gonna be very expensive.
Sha1dov 3 years ago 2
This has recently been reported to nothing but rumor, FUD, and lies.
Bjingles3 3 years ago