@DarkKnight369 Hey man, I know you already talked about this in one of the top comments, but can you get as heavy of a tone out of the Blackouts as you can with say, an EMG 81-7? I'm looking at this guitar, but I'm concerned I won't be able to get the same searing, heavily distorted tones that you can get out of the 81-7.
@IPlayGuitarAndStuff1 I haven't played the 81-7. My experience with the 81 on the 6 strings was that it was thin and week. I always put the 85 in the bridge. For A tuning and lower I might have a different opinion on that.
It really depends what you consider heavy though. The blackouts have more of a lower midrange roar. They sounded more full and heavy compared to the 707s.
@fuel126 I am assuming you mean 707's sine the 808's are the 8 string model. I prefer the Blackouts to the EMG 707's. I had the 707's in my Loomis and swapped them for the blackouts.
The hellraiser is a great guitar. Personally I like the loomis the best because it has the brightest tone woods out of the available Schecter 7 string lineup.
@spacemonkeyzass That's right actually. The smaller headed grovers have 18:1 gear ratios, where as the older fat headed grovers were 14:1 I believe. The Schecter locking tuners have 19:1 gear ratios. The ATX I have was made before Schecter put those out and has the Grovers instead...same deal with my Loomis. My C-8 Hellraiser has them though and they are nice.
@spacemonkeyzass I like them a lot I have never played the 81-7, so I can't really compare. On 6 string guitars, I always used the 81 in the neck position, with the 85 in the bridge...both 18v modded.
I haven't tried Lundrens or Bare Knuckle for that matter. I have been curious to try both. I am pretty fond of the active feel though.
@DarkKnight369 word. yeah I just switched to passives this year and I'll most likely never go back to actives. the m7 is incredible. Worth every cent if you can afford it. I haven't tried the bareknuckle aftermath yet. I want to, since it is supposedly a cheaper version of the m7. Although I hear the aftermath is a bit more beefy.
How heavy is the guitar? I know lower end Schecters like the Omen Extreme are heavy as fuck (In weight) but I just wanted to know if there was any difference or if you could give a simple light-medium-heavy rating xD
@DanDood666 I don't consider it heavy, especially compared to my Jolly Roger and C8 Hellraiser. Mahogany can vary though. I have picked up identical guitars that have differed in weight. Not all wood of the same type is equal.
i tried this guitar out today but a 6 string version, it was extremely comfortable, and i was wondering, does the 7 string have a thicker neck or is it the same?
@Riffarn I don't think its thicker, but tis definitely wider. I can't say for sure though because I have not played the C1-ATX. I do know the the hellraiser 7 strings was just a wider version of the 6 string. The C-1 hellraisers used to have slightly thicker necks than the other C-1's. That was a while back though and I am not sure if that still is the case.
@Riffarn ok, i was just thinking about getting a schecter 7, and heard that it had ridiciously fat necks, i have no problems playing 7 strings, as long as its not very fat, what would you recommend, the loomis or the blackjack?
They are expensive... but I'm actually thinking about getting one!! Sucky thing is that the new ones don't come with grovers anymore for some reason.. that SUCKS! Hope I can get one from the old series WITH grover tuners, else I have to reconsider. Are there any people with Schecter guitars with schecter tuners? Are those Schecter tuners any good???
@rolfeijg2 I have the Schecter Locking tuners on my C-8 Hellraiser. They hold and stay in tune longer than the grovers. I believe their gearing ration is about the same too, 18:1 I think it is.
@rolfeijg2 I have the Schecter Locking tuners on my C-8 Hellraiser. They hold and stay in tune longer than the grovers. I believe their gearing ration is about the same too, 18:1 I think it is.
i have really small hands, but i really weant a good schecter to play that "djent" style of metal. which guitar would u recomend for me? i really want the jeff loomis or blackjack guitar but im scared itll be way to thick for my tiny short fingers to handle xD
@Greasyxx All the set neck C-7's have the same neck shape. I believe the bolt ons might have smaller neck sizes though. Its been a few years since I played one though.
If you are really worried about it look at the Ibanez 7's. They hurt my hands to play because they are too small. I had an RG7420 and sold it for one of my Schecter 7's.
@Greasyxx Well if you're playing groovy djent and don't need to shred, then any Schecter will do. Really, any neck will be fine unless you're picky. If you're really worried, try some Schecters out, see how they feel. If you don't like em, consider an Ibanez like an RG7321, RGD7321 or an S7420.
hey man ive been strugglin in desciding what 7 to get i like this and the jeff loomis and the esp horizon 7, which would you recomend and 2nd how is the neck on this black jack??
@dobsonone Are you talking true ESP Horizon 7, or LTD Horizon 7? I have not played either, but I think the Schecters would be a little nicer than LTD models, but the ESP would probably be a much nicer guitar.
The neck on the blackjack ATX is pretty identical to the Loomis. Schecter uses the same neck size/shape for all its set neck 7's. The white blackjack ATX has a gloss coat so it might feel a hair thicker.
7string.org players consider the Loomis 7 one of the best production 7's.
hey dude sweet review, whats your opinion on 7 vs 6 strings in regards to moving from 1 to the other. i have always been interested in 7 strings, but only ever played 6's
@IYI00Ch At first, a 7 string will feel really weird. It took me a while to adjust and get used to hitting the 7th string in place of the 6th when I needed too. I have no issues now. I go from 7, to 6, to 8. These days, 7 feels the most at home while 6 feels the least.
@DarkKnight369 i did, but all that came up was review sites and the schecter site, but i found it now, and i cantt afford it anyway :L ah well, what other guitars do you have? could you recomend me one in the £300-500 price range?
@avv3s0m3 Check out the Schecter forum...you might find some answers there.
I purchased mine from a local shop. Had it pre-ordered before it was release and actually got the 4th production model. I have purchased other Schecters from Drum City Guitar Land and I know they have shipped internationally before.
@GuitarGasmProduction I don't record myself playing covers of songs. Most of what I play is just improv and mixing some licks I wrote. I do throw in random excerpts from songs now and again, but its more funny stuff like Michael Jackson, Kansas, or what not.
I do listen to and like Parkway drive though, so I can't say I am not influenced by them in some way. I believe I am also tuned the same, but they probably run 6 strings.
@DarkKnight369 so which do u like more as far as comfort when it comes to the neck goes? also what do u like about the loomis more than the blackjack i hope im not wasting ur tym but im planing on buy my first 7 string and i would love to get either the loomis or the blackjack c-7 jeff loomis i love jeff hes a huge inspiration in my life but i would like a 100% honest opinion from someone who [lays well and owns both guitars such as urself
@TheMetalhead804 All the higher end Schecter 7's will have the same neck feel. The only thing that differs is the gloss or satin finish. I like the wood combo of the Loomis better. I really dig the maple neck and tone the thing produces. The edge isn't huge over my ATX though.
@SignsOfYuquiyu Yeah, I hate the pick noise. I was using my built in laptop mic to record this and I couldn't go loud enough on my amp or it would distort the audio.
@DarkKnight369 Nah it's cool. It's a nice guitar regardless, I'm thinking about investing in one. Question is what kind of pickups I should fit it with.
@SignsOfYuquiyu Look into the Schecter custom 7 then. This way if you want passives you don't have to deal with the oversized housing cut outs. You should also look into the Loomis. IMO, its a better guitar.
@DarkKnight369 Why do you think the Loomis is better? I mean, Loomis hasn't 3 piece neck, nor Schecter locking tuners, nor tone control, but it misteriously costs "the same" (just for the name, I guess). I'd really appreciate some light in regard of this issues. In the video the Loomis sounds darker to me (i like it most) but perhaps is because of your different playing... In Schecter demo videos they sound otherwise to me; i like most the blackjack there. THank you for the video and responses.
@Zappabain I have a part 2 to this video where the comparison is more accurate.
My ATX doesn't have locking tuners. Not sure why a 3-piece neck would be better. The Loomis would generally be the same price or more because its maple and ash. They are different woods than the mahogany of the ATX and I believe they generally are more expensive. The maple neck is sealed, which is an extra step. There are also less controls so its a different manufacturing template than other schecters
@horhaymalone22 Nope. I bought this before Schecter starting including those on their guitars. I have locking tuners on my C-8 hellraiser and like them...other than the stupid black nickel finish that corrodes like crazy.
want some tone with that gain? haha just kidding bro. thats a fantastic rig and an amazing guitar. im stuck between this beast and an esp ltd 7 string. i dont know how much time, if any, you have had with esp but no one can seem to give me a straight answer as to which guitar is better overall. i play an ibanez 6 string now and i cant stsnd the neck on that thing.
@TheWizKhalifa420 I don't personally have experience with ESP 7 string models. That is what sucks about 7's...almost no one stocks them. I have heard that the necks fall somewhere between Ibanez and Schecter. I had an Ibanez 7 and sold it to help fund this guitar and my Loomis. The neck on the Ibby felt small and cramped where this is much larger.
Check to see if the ESP is 25.5" scale or 27" scale. That will make a different in the feel as the frets are more spread out due to the neck.
@1016Freedom1016 I should start ignoring these stupid fucking questions people ask me over and over again. If you scroll through the comments I bet the same 3 questions come up again and again.
The point is, you can't ask how the neck is and expect to get a good answer. Everyone is different, and Scheter 7 string necks will feel horrifically large to some and comfortable to others. I am 6'8" and I have large hands. The neck feels great. People with smaller hands that I know hate it.
@DarkKnight369 Tru I wasn't asking a question I was giving an answer to someone else, so : P goodjob big boy.
I'm a High School Student 5'6 : P not to tall whatever, I have smaller hands than you, and I have the same guitar........ its easy to get use to.... unless you have like baby fingers... cause I have small hands and it works fine so.
@1016Freedom1016 I was replying to the answer that you gave to the question in which I was referring. I was replying to you because you said to ignore the answer I gave.
How a neck feels is subjective, and really hand size doesn't matter all that much. It can usually be said though that larger hands would find a larger neck more comfortable. Some people with large hands though prefer thinner necks like that of an Ibanez 7. Just because you adjusted to it, doesn't mean others will as well.
@DarkKnight369 Your right just cause I adjusted to it doesn't mean others will as will,
Just besides some of your friends or people you know, hate it Im assuming cause its to big or wide (the neck). Just because they don't adjust to it well doesn't mean others wont adjust either right.
@MultiRockmeister To answer your question, yes....you can use the .009 lighter gauge. It will be less tension and the strings will be looser. I believe the default Schecter factory strings are D'Addario EXL 110 (.010-.049)
I have another question to you sir, or to anyone who has played this guitar:
How easy/hard do you find it to play leads on this guitar without the inlays? I know it has markers on the binding at the top, but do you use them, and do they help? Or is it easy to get lost on the neck while you are playing stuff?
Depends how you play. Sitting down and leaning over, maybe. Only time I have had issues with getting lost is around the 14th and 15th fret. Its only when I sit a certain way though.
@harmonicminorshred I play an older Ibanez SZ that also has no fret markers (accept along the top edge of the fretboard) Looking straight down on it while holding it, I don't have any trouble. I may just naturally look at the markers on the top of the neck anyhow. If you rely on looking at the face of the fretboard it may feel different at first but should not be a difficult transition. I run into most of my trouble when playing new parts with the band... They cant easily see where I'm jamming.
@harmonicminorshred A nice think about a InlayLess guitar is that you can for exampel go to ebay, I bought my inlays from Creative-Cuts, And the work awesome. You just set them on like stickers. And you dont feel them :)
@panamanian911 What do you mean by tight neck? Do you mean smaller with the strings closer together? But I couldn't tell you what you would like. To each his own.
I always find trouble with active neck pickups, because guitars that usually carry them only have one tone knob. Does this thing have 1volume/2tones or viceversa?
@panamanian911 2 volume, 1 tone. I am sure you can re-wire it to 1 volume, 2 tone. Personally, I prefer a 1 volume knob set up. I do not need tone knobs.
@DarkKnight369 Would this guitar be good for strumming clean chords and fingerpicking? The neck looks wide enough, but how is the spacing in between the strings? Are they cramped like Ibanez, or do you reckon you could comfortably pull off classical technique on it? Or is it just for shred and metal?
@harmonicminorshred They are larger necked guitars. I had an Ibanez RG7420. It always cramped my hand to play. I sold it in favor of my Schecter 7's. I do not play in the style you mention, so I can't comment specifically. I do know that the neck is bigger and more spaced than what Ibanez offers.
@poiuytrewq95 Its a BBE 482i sonic maximizer. Its supposed to better align the low and high frequencies to bring clarity and reduce mud. Read up on the specifics, but that is the just of it. Unfortunately, I find that it tends to ignores mids. That is why I have an EQ following it to boost the mids.
@ShreddyEddy8D The only guitar I have with a satin finish is the loomis. I never found gloss necks to be slow. I find that the trick is to just use guitar polish and clean the neck every once in a while. If you have issue with it still, you could wax it.
Hey buddy, great review. Do you have any experience with the V-7 Hellraisers? If so what do you think? They have them onsale and Im thinking of picking one up.
@poiuytrewq95 .060 is not much thicker than the .059 that comes on the guitar stock. Schecter uses D'addario strings and their EXL110-7 set is .010-.059. The low B string used to be a .056 a while a go but it changed a couple of years back.
I use the EXL 110 set + a .062 for the low A. I am thinking of trying the .010-.052 set for the top 6 and a .064 for the low A next. My 8 string is set up with the first 7 strings at that tension.
You've got really cool guitars dude and I'm looking forward to ordering my 7 string, but I'm a bit confused about something, so I'd like to ask you. What's the difference between playing a 25.5" and a 26.5" scale 7 string guitar?
@krivatakirka The neck is usually slightly longer, fret spacing is slightly larger, and the tension would be tighter with the same string gauge, thus making the lower notes have more clarity.
Whats the difference between the schecter hellraiser and the atx blackjack? I'm considering the schecter hellraiser c-7 whenever I save up enough money but I wanna buy the best quality guitar of the two.
@knoxled Hellraiser has a rosewood fretboard where as the ATX has ebony. The hellraiser has dual EMG 707's and the ATX has a blackout bridge an neck p'up. Overall, the hellraiser will be darker sounding, which can be a problem with the lower notes.
The black ATX is a satin finish as opposed to gloss. The instrument should have better natural acoustics and therefore sound better plugged in.
@knoxled Not to be a dick, but have you even bothered to look at Schecter's site for the specs, color choices, etc? I just feel like you are asking questions that you can see for your self a lot quicker than I can answer.
Go with whatever you want. The ATX has different colors...its satin black and vintage white. The Hellraiser is gloss black, snow white, and black cherry.
Have you looked into the Schecter custom 7? I would definitely consider it....
@DarkKnight369 I dont have time to look for the specs. Im asking you these questions while im in a class right now. i only have a certain amount of time so i choose asking you these questions instead of taking alot of time looking for details.
@knoxled I don't mind answering question...but in the time it took to ask all these questions and read my responses you could have found this out on your own. There is no excuse or anyway to cut around it...asking me these simple things just means you were too lazy to look for yourself.
@knoxled I am at work, what is your point? Maybe you should pay attention instead of asking redundant question on youtube. Its mind boggling how you can post comments on youtube from class but can't google something. Amazing.
@guitarsalert Actives are like EMGs and Duncan blackouts...that have battery powered preamps. They are generally more powerful and in my opinion offer more clarity.
I don't remember how much I got it for since I bought it in 2008. I want to say it was either $700 or $800 at the time.
can you tell me what is better between schecter c-1 custom and schecter c-1 blackjack atx for metal hardcore music but i want the clean sound also sorry for my bad english Thx bro :))
do you find your fingers often hit the knobs when using the high E and B?
looking into the 8 string
buttholesurfer101 3 weeks ago
@buttholesurfer101 Not really because I usually make a fist of sorts while playing. I prefer a one knob layout though like the Loomis has.
DarkKnight369 2 weeks ago
you think that 660.85 USA dollars is a good price for a used one?
GooliLoLVideos 1 month ago
@GooliLoLVideos Maybe if its a year or less old. Otherwise $500-$600 sounds reasonable.
DarkKnight369 1 month ago
@DarkKnight369 Hey man, I know you already talked about this in one of the top comments, but can you get as heavy of a tone out of the Blackouts as you can with say, an EMG 81-7? I'm looking at this guitar, but I'm concerned I won't be able to get the same searing, heavily distorted tones that you can get out of the 81-7.
IPlayGuitarAndStuff1 1 month ago
@IPlayGuitarAndStuff1 I haven't played the 81-7. My experience with the 81 on the 6 strings was that it was thin and week. I always put the 85 in the bridge. For A tuning and lower I might have a different opinion on that.
It really depends what you consider heavy though. The blackouts have more of a lower midrange roar. They sounded more full and heavy compared to the 707s.
DarkKnight369 1 month ago
Would you recommend this or the Hellraiser? Also, how do the Blackouts compare to 808s?
fuel126 1 month ago
@fuel126 I am assuming you mean 707's sine the 808's are the 8 string model. I prefer the Blackouts to the EMG 707's. I had the 707's in my Loomis and swapped them for the blackouts.
The hellraiser is a great guitar. Personally I like the loomis the best because it has the brightest tone woods out of the available Schecter 7 string lineup.
DarkKnight369 1 month ago
cool review man!
jamiev4 1 month ago
It's actually 19:1 ratio. ;)
spacemonkeyzass 2 months ago
@spacemonkeyzass I don't even remember what I was talking about in this video. What did I say? 16:1, 18:1?
DarkKnight369 2 months ago
@DarkKnight369 hehe. yeah you said 18:1.
spacemonkeyzass 2 months ago
@spacemonkeyzass That's right actually. The smaller headed grovers have 18:1 gear ratios, where as the older fat headed grovers were 14:1 I believe. The Schecter locking tuners have 19:1 gear ratios. The ATX I have was made before Schecter put those out and has the Grovers instead...same deal with my Loomis. My C-8 Hellraiser has them though and they are nice.
DarkKnight369 2 months ago
@DarkKnight369 oh ok. how you liking those blackouts?
i was an avid emg (81) fan for years, but am now a total Lundgren m7 junkie. Too bad they are like $300 a pop!
spacemonkeyzass 2 months ago
@spacemonkeyzass I like them a lot I have never played the 81-7, so I can't really compare. On 6 string guitars, I always used the 81 in the neck position, with the 85 in the bridge...both 18v modded.
I haven't tried Lundrens or Bare Knuckle for that matter. I have been curious to try both. I am pretty fond of the active feel though.
DarkKnight369 2 months ago
@DarkKnight369 word. yeah I just switched to passives this year and I'll most likely never go back to actives. the m7 is incredible. Worth every cent if you can afford it. I haven't tried the bareknuckle aftermath yet. I want to, since it is supposedly a cheaper version of the m7. Although I hear the aftermath is a bit more beefy.
spacemonkeyzass 2 months ago
Nice description on the paint lmao
b1gman11 2 months ago
How heavy is the guitar? I know lower end Schecters like the Omen Extreme are heavy as fuck (In weight) but I just wanted to know if there was any difference or if you could give a simple light-medium-heavy rating xD
DanDood666 2 months ago
@DanDood666 I don't consider it heavy, especially compared to my Jolly Roger and C8 Hellraiser. Mahogany can vary though. I have picked up identical guitars that have differed in weight. Not all wood of the same type is equal.
DarkKnight369 2 months ago
the hi gain sound is ownage, but the clean is meh
jonnyrokr 2 months ago
@jonnyrokr Active pickups mate, you cant expect anything else.
zbarneyz 2 months ago
i tried this guitar out today but a 6 string version, it was extremely comfortable, and i was wondering, does the 7 string have a thicker neck or is it the same?
Riffarn 3 months ago
@Riffarn I don't think its thicker, but tis definitely wider. I can't say for sure though because I have not played the C1-ATX. I do know the the hellraiser 7 strings was just a wider version of the 6 string. The C-1 hellraisers used to have slightly thicker necks than the other C-1's. That was a while back though and I am not sure if that still is the case.
DarkKnight369 3 months ago
@Riffarn ok, i was just thinking about getting a schecter 7, and heard that it had ridiciously fat necks, i have no problems playing 7 strings, as long as its not very fat, what would you recommend, the loomis or the blackjack?
Riffarn 3 months ago
@Riffarn They would feel huge if you had small hands. They aren't thin and flat like Ibanez 7 string necks.
I prefer the Loomis to the ATX. Before my Loomis had blackouts, I preferred the ATX.
DarkKnight369 3 months ago
They are expensive... but I'm actually thinking about getting one!! Sucky thing is that the new ones don't come with grovers anymore for some reason.. that SUCKS! Hope I can get one from the old series WITH grover tuners, else I have to reconsider. Are there any people with Schecter guitars with schecter tuners? Are those Schecter tuners any good???
rolfeijg2 4 months ago
@rolfeijg2 I have the Schecter Locking tuners on my C-8 Hellraiser. They hold and stay in tune longer than the grovers. I believe their gearing ration is about the same too, 18:1 I think it is.
DarkKnight369 4 months ago
@rolfeijg2 I have the Schecter Locking tuners on my C-8 Hellraiser. They hold and stay in tune longer than the grovers. I believe their gearing ration is about the same too, 18:1 I think it is.
DarkKnight369 4 months ago
i have really small hands, but i really weant a good schecter to play that "djent" style of metal. which guitar would u recomend for me? i really want the jeff loomis or blackjack guitar but im scared itll be way to thick for my tiny short fingers to handle xD
Greasyxx 4 months ago
@Greasyxx All the set neck C-7's have the same neck shape. I believe the bolt ons might have smaller neck sizes though. Its been a few years since I played one though.
If you are really worried about it look at the Ibanez 7's. They hurt my hands to play because they are too small. I had an RG7420 and sold it for one of my Schecter 7's.
DarkKnight369 4 months ago
@Greasyxx Well if you're playing groovy djent and don't need to shred, then any Schecter will do. Really, any neck will be fine unless you're picky. If you're really worried, try some Schecters out, see how they feel. If you don't like em, consider an Ibanez like an RG7321, RGD7321 or an S7420.
person8132 3 months ago
i really want this guitar,but it costs like $1900 where i live...fuck
littlealien123 4 months ago
@littlealien123 you can always look for a good deal on ebay
TheMetalhead804 4 months ago
Why does everyone make demo with what appears to be a cellphone cam or something with the same audio quality?
Sim2428 5 months ago 2
@Sim2428 Because you touch yourself at night.
DarkKnight369 5 months ago 5
are the blackouts good for stuff in standard too? or mainly just metal?
AngelOfChaos963 5 months ago
@AngelOfChaos963 I think they are good all around. Some people don't like actives for certain types of music. I do though.
DarkKnight369 5 months ago
hey man ive been strugglin in desciding what 7 to get i like this and the jeff loomis and the esp horizon 7, which would you recomend and 2nd how is the neck on this black jack??
dobsonone 5 months ago
@dobsonone Are you talking true ESP Horizon 7, or LTD Horizon 7? I have not played either, but I think the Schecters would be a little nicer than LTD models, but the ESP would probably be a much nicer guitar.
The neck on the blackjack ATX is pretty identical to the Loomis. Schecter uses the same neck size/shape for all its set neck 7's. The white blackjack ATX has a gloss coat so it might feel a hair thicker.
7string.org players consider the Loomis 7 one of the best production 7's.
DarkKnight369 5 months ago
i just got it omg it's amazing i'm working on setting it up properly i got it with a little bit of low action and i like higher
GuitarGasmProduction 5 months ago
This guitar (6 string version) or Hellraiser C-1 with EMG 81 and 89?? I would like people's opinions, thanks!
AngelOfChaos963 6 months ago
hey dude sweet review, whats your opinion on 7 vs 6 strings in regards to moving from 1 to the other. i have always been interested in 7 strings, but only ever played 6's
IYI00Ch 6 months ago
@IYI00Ch At first, a 7 string will feel really weird. It took me a while to adjust and get used to hitting the 7th string in place of the 6th when I needed too. I have no issues now. I go from 7, to 6, to 8. These days, 7 feels the most at home while 6 feels the least.
DarkKnight369 6 months ago
where can you buy this? and for how much?
avv3s0m3 6 months ago
@avv3s0m3 Are you that lazy so lazy that you can't google that and find out for yourself?
DarkKnight369 6 months ago
@DarkKnight369 i did, but all that came up was review sites and the schecter site, but i found it now, and i cantt afford it anyway :L ah well, what other guitars do you have? could you recomend me one in the £300-500 price range?
avv3s0m3 6 months ago
@avv3s0m3 Check out the Schecter forum...you might find some answers there.
I purchased mine from a local shop. Had it pre-ordered before it was release and actually got the 4th production model. I have purchased other Schecters from Drum City Guitar Land and I know they have shipped internationally before.
DarkKnight369 6 months ago
@DarkKnight369 ok thanks :)
avv3s0m3 6 months ago
what was that first song you played, sounded parkway drive like
GuitarGasmProduction 6 months ago
@GuitarGasmProduction I don't record myself playing covers of songs. Most of what I play is just improv and mixing some licks I wrote. I do throw in random excerpts from songs now and again, but its more funny stuff like Michael Jackson, Kansas, or what not.
I do listen to and like Parkway drive though, so I can't say I am not influenced by them in some way. I believe I am also tuned the same, but they probably run 6 strings.
DarkKnight369 6 months ago
@DarkKnight369 depends, they run 6 strings with drop B :P and the triple hammeron metalcore riffs gave me a parkway drive feel for some reason
GuitarGasmProduction 6 months ago
You are a large man.
zezimadude13 6 months ago
@zezimadude13 You sir are master of the obvious.
DarkKnight369 6 months ago
@DarkKnight369 You, Sir, have a firm grasp of the definition of the word: Master... and obvious.... and sir.
zezimadude13 6 months ago
@zezimadude13 touche`
DarkKnight369 6 months ago
i like the blackouts, have u decided which u like more yet?
TheMetalhead804 7 months ago
@TheMetalhead804 I prefer the blackouts. As far as guitars, I prefer the Loomis with Blackouts.
DarkKnight369 7 months ago
@DarkKnight369 so which do u like more as far as comfort when it comes to the neck goes? also what do u like about the loomis more than the blackjack i hope im not wasting ur tym but im planing on buy my first 7 string and i would love to get either the loomis or the blackjack c-7 jeff loomis i love jeff hes a huge inspiration in my life but i would like a 100% honest opinion from someone who [lays well and owns both guitars such as urself
TheMetalhead804 7 months ago
@TheMetalhead804 All the higher end Schecter 7's will have the same neck feel. The only thing that differs is the gloss or satin finish. I like the wood combo of the Loomis better. I really dig the maple neck and tone the thing produces. The edge isn't huge over my ATX though.
DarkKnight369 7 months ago
*smack, smack, smack, smacka, smack [(j/k) imitating pick smacking] Nah it sounds good, heavy.
SignsOfYuquiyu 7 months ago
@SignsOfYuquiyu Yeah, I hate the pick noise. I was using my built in laptop mic to record this and I couldn't go loud enough on my amp or it would distort the audio.
DarkKnight369 7 months ago
@DarkKnight369 Nah it's cool. It's a nice guitar regardless, I'm thinking about investing in one. Question is what kind of pickups I should fit it with.
SignsOfYuquiyu 7 months ago
@SignsOfYuquiyu Look into the Schecter custom 7 then. This way if you want passives you don't have to deal with the oversized housing cut outs. You should also look into the Loomis. IMO, its a better guitar.
DarkKnight369 7 months ago
@DarkKnight369 Thanks, I'll check that out =D
SignsOfYuquiyu 7 months ago
@DarkKnight369 Why do you think the Loomis is better? I mean, Loomis hasn't 3 piece neck, nor Schecter locking tuners, nor tone control, but it misteriously costs "the same" (just for the name, I guess). I'd really appreciate some light in regard of this issues. In the video the Loomis sounds darker to me (i like it most) but perhaps is because of your different playing... In Schecter demo videos they sound otherwise to me; i like most the blackjack there. THank you for the video and responses.
Zappabain 6 months ago
@Zappabain I have a part 2 to this video where the comparison is more accurate.
My ATX doesn't have locking tuners. Not sure why a 3-piece neck would be better. The Loomis would generally be the same price or more because its maple and ash. They are different woods than the mahogany of the ATX and I believe they generally are more expensive. The maple neck is sealed, which is an extra step. There are also less controls so its a different manufacturing template than other schecters
DarkKnight369 6 months ago
The aged white one isn't satin right?
I don't like satin feel
Jasaxos 7 months ago
@Jasaxos It is gloss...only the black is satin. I dig the satin on my loomis, but I think the black satin atx would show way too many fingerprints.
DarkKnight369 7 months ago
I'm buying a semen colored guitar.
yoimer06 7 months ago
the moment he mentioned it was a seven string, it transformed. didn't even notice it was a seven string...
synsamuels 7 months ago
dude, your funny
mrgirllicker202 7 months ago
locking tuners?
horhaymalone22 7 months ago
@horhaymalone22 Nope. I bought this before Schecter starting including those on their guitars. I have locking tuners on my C-8 hellraiser and like them...other than the stupid black nickel finish that corrodes like crazy.
DarkKnight369 7 months ago
@DarkKnight369 I have the same problem with my Schecter Hellraiser Tempest. Do you know how to get rid of that?
yekshemesh4alig 7 months ago
@yekshemesh4alig Flitz metal polish helps. It comes back though. Best is to get black, or chrome replacement tuners. They don't do that.
DarkKnight369 7 months ago
@DarkKnight369 iF I BOUGHT THIS TODAY WOULD IT HAVE LOCKING TUNERS?
xalentcash 7 months ago
@xalentcash Maybe you should look on Schecter's site or ask them.
DarkKnight369 7 months ago
is tht the same model as the schecter the black guitar with the gold around it?
megakisstallica12 7 months ago
@megakisstallica12 Yep, just white and gloss instead of the satin finish the black has.
DarkKnight369 7 months ago
@megakisstallica12 how much u pay for it jw?
megakisstallica12 7 months ago
want some tone with that gain? haha just kidding bro. thats a fantastic rig and an amazing guitar. im stuck between this beast and an esp ltd 7 string. i dont know how much time, if any, you have had with esp but no one can seem to give me a straight answer as to which guitar is better overall. i play an ibanez 6 string now and i cant stsnd the neck on that thing.
TheWizKhalifa420 8 months ago
@TheWizKhalifa420 I don't personally have experience with ESP 7 string models. That is what sucks about 7's...almost no one stocks them. I have heard that the necks fall somewhere between Ibanez and Schecter. I had an Ibanez 7 and sold it to help fund this guitar and my Loomis. The neck on the Ibby felt small and cramped where this is much larger.
Check to see if the ESP is 25.5" scale or 27" scale. That will make a different in the feel as the frets are more spread out due to the neck.
DarkKnight369 8 months ago
6:52 = first chord in All New Materials by Periphery
BTBAM4life1 9 months ago
hahahaha koreans
IIIBLAKEIII 9 months ago
Is the neck on it easy to get used to? Or is it a little to thick?
6Zach26 10 months ago
@6Zach26 Depends if you have man hands, or tiny little girl hands.
DarkKnight369 10 months ago 5
@DarkKnight369 well i will ask the same question but phase it differently. How different from a 6 string does this?
jmannunez 9 months ago
@jmannunez It feels like a 6 string, with an extra string.
DarkKnight369 9 months ago
@DarkKnight369 thanks lmfao i already got mine.....old style Schecter Diamond series 7 string....thanks 4 anser.
jmannunez 9 months ago
@6Zach26 hah, ignore that reply that guy gave you,
the neck is really easy to get use to,
I love it, I have the same guitar.
I used a B.C Rich Gunslinger Pearl before I bought the Schecter.
1016Freedom1016 9 months ago
@1016Freedom1016 I should start ignoring these stupid fucking questions people ask me over and over again. If you scroll through the comments I bet the same 3 questions come up again and again.
The point is, you can't ask how the neck is and expect to get a good answer. Everyone is different, and Scheter 7 string necks will feel horrifically large to some and comfortable to others. I am 6'8" and I have large hands. The neck feels great. People with smaller hands that I know hate it.
DarkKnight369 9 months ago
@DarkKnight369 Tru I wasn't asking a question I was giving an answer to someone else, so : P goodjob big boy.
I'm a High School Student 5'6 : P not to tall whatever, I have smaller hands than you, and I have the same guitar........ its easy to get use to.... unless you have like baby fingers... cause I have small hands and it works fine so.
1016Freedom1016 9 months ago
@1016Freedom1016 I was replying to the answer that you gave to the question in which I was referring. I was replying to you because you said to ignore the answer I gave.
How a neck feels is subjective, and really hand size doesn't matter all that much. It can usually be said though that larger hands would find a larger neck more comfortable. Some people with large hands though prefer thinner necks like that of an Ibanez 7. Just because you adjusted to it, doesn't mean others will as well.
DarkKnight369 9 months ago
@DarkKnight369 Your right just cause I adjusted to it doesn't mean others will as will,
Just besides some of your friends or people you know, hate it Im assuming cause its to big or wide (the neck). Just because they don't adjust to it well doesn't mean others wont adjust either right.
1016Freedom1016 9 months ago
Do they sell............... A Schecter c7 atx with the 'ace of spades' inlay, blackout humbuckers and an ebony neck?
MandalaSkies 10 months ago
@MandalaSkies I haven't seen one. There may have been a special edition I missed though.
DarkKnight369 10 months ago
@MandalaSkies they had a c7 blackjack non atx no blackouts and i think rosewood
jw2113 10 months ago
can we tune this guitar in standard E and play with strings gauge 0.09?
MultiRockmeister 10 months ago
@MultiRockmeister Like low E Standard? You could play with that gauge, but I would recommend it for tuning up, not down.
DarkKnight369 10 months ago
@DarkKnight369 Oh.... I thought this guitar was the c1... but it is the c 7....:P sorry... but thanks:) NICE guitar:)
MultiRockmeister 10 months ago
@MultiRockmeister To answer your question, yes....you can use the .009 lighter gauge. It will be less tension and the strings will be looser. I believe the default Schecter factory strings are D'Addario EXL 110 (.010-.049)
DarkKnight369 10 months ago
@DarkKnight369 ok... thanks:D
MultiRockmeister 10 months ago
great tone dude :D
xXMUurTXx 11 months ago
@xXMUurTXx Thanks!
DarkKnight369 11 months ago
i was one of those koreans
Mrsfatblackchick 11 months ago 29
I have another question to you sir, or to anyone who has played this guitar:
How easy/hard do you find it to play leads on this guitar without the inlays? I know it has markers on the binding at the top, but do you use them, and do they help? Or is it easy to get lost on the neck while you are playing stuff?
harmonicminorshred 11 months ago
@harmonicminorshred
Depends how you play. Sitting down and leaning over, maybe. Only time I have had issues with getting lost is around the 14th and 15th fret. Its only when I sit a certain way though.
DarkKnight369 11 months ago
@harmonicminorshred I play an older Ibanez SZ that also has no fret markers (accept along the top edge of the fretboard) Looking straight down on it while holding it, I don't have any trouble. I may just naturally look at the markers on the top of the neck anyhow. If you rely on looking at the face of the fretboard it may feel different at first but should not be a difficult transition. I run into most of my trouble when playing new parts with the band... They cant easily see where I'm jamming.
riotdiscoman 11 months ago
@riotdiscoman That's why I'm probably going to do a Creative Cut thing when I get my Wes Borland signature from Yamaha.
...and while you're on the topic of the SZ, how many frets? Or was 22 all they made it with? Because the SZ was my favorite model back then :P
jacobdallen2 10 months ago
@harmonicminorshred focus ur soloing on your hand as opposed to the neck get the first note right and ur hand will no where to go
jw2113 11 months ago
@harmonicminorshred A nice think about a InlayLess guitar is that you can for exampel go to ebay, I bought my inlays from Creative-Cuts, And the work awesome. You just set them on like stickers. And you dont feel them :)
RydENh34d 10 months ago
Also, do you think that a player like me would be more comfortable playing this, or a more "tight" neck Ibanez?
panamanian911 1 year ago
@panamanian911 What do you mean by tight neck? Do you mean smaller with the strings closer together? But I couldn't tell you what you would like. To each his own.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
@DarkKnight369 yeah with the strings closer together. I'll need to try a bunch of guitars. nice review btw and thanks for the info
panamanian911 1 year ago
@panamanian911 thanks.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
I always find trouble with active neck pickups, because guitars that usually carry them only have one tone knob. Does this thing have 1volume/2tones or viceversa?
panamanian911 1 year ago
@panamanian911 2 volume, 1 tone. I am sure you can re-wire it to 1 volume, 2 tone. Personally, I prefer a 1 volume knob set up. I do not need tone knobs.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
the forum post u did in the schecter forums for 7 string guitarist omg worship material. Oceano are fucken beastly!
MegaBeartrap 1 year ago
@MegaBeartrap thanks.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
Does this guitar have fret markers?
Mohamed636 1 year ago
@Mohamed636 Yes
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
@DarkKnight369 Would this guitar be good for strumming clean chords and fingerpicking? The neck looks wide enough, but how is the spacing in between the strings? Are they cramped like Ibanez, or do you reckon you could comfortably pull off classical technique on it? Or is it just for shred and metal?
Anyone tried this guitar and know?
harmonicminorshred 1 year ago
@harmonicminorshred They are larger necked guitars. I had an Ibanez RG7420. It always cramped my hand to play. I sold it in favor of my Schecter 7's. I do not play in the style you mention, so I can't comment specifically. I do know that the neck is bigger and more spaced than what Ibanez offers.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
Jesus the pinch harmonic at the start of the playing sounds meeaaaannnn!
BeyondCemetaryGates 1 year ago
i just bought this beast!!!
DylonIsTehName 1 year ago
"Whaddup"
FuckinMetal3694 1 year ago
@FuckinMetal3694 I dunno, what is up?
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
nice review. good work mate
superjarri 1 year ago
@superjarri Thanks!
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
Sic playing bro! Do you know what Guitar case will fit that beast?
Starscream513 1 year ago
@Starscream513 Thanks! I have a Schecter case for it. It fits the 6's, 7's, and 8's.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
does this guitar have any other markeers other than at the 12th fret?
thomascatlett555 1 year ago
@thomascatlett555 yes...along the binding.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
What wireless system are you using?
6Zach26 1 year ago
@6Zach26 Its an X2 Wireless. The company was bought by Line 6 who now produces these under their name.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
i think the Loomis sounds a bit heavier but muddier...the atx has a warm heavy tone and a more crisp non muddy sound.. i love it man!
OleThreeFingers 1 year ago
@OleThreeFingers thats more of a HD147 vs. ENGL difference, I saw loomis(he signed my old blackjack c-7) and he had AWESOME TONE :)
wariomt 1 year ago
this guitar... is just... its always been my dream to get one!
darkjets501 1 year ago
4 more months and i can finally afford this beast
BollWeevil1 1 year ago
........whats a sonic maximizer ?lol i really dont know that much about amps as you can tell haha
poiuytrewq95 1 year ago
@poiuytrewq95 Its a BBE 482i sonic maximizer. Its supposed to better align the low and high frequencies to bring clarity and reduce mud. Read up on the specifics, but that is the just of it. Unfortunately, I find that it tends to ignores mids. That is why I have an EQ following it to boost the mids.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
whats the EQ thing for?!?! please reply
poiuytrewq95 1 year ago
@poiuytrewq95 To EQ my signal. hahha. I use it to bump the mids a bit after the signal runs through the BBE Sonic Maximizer.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
i want this guitar so bad!
PennybagDarrell 1 year ago
Hey mate, i'm thinking of getting this, is it much slower on the atx neck than the loomis due to the finish?
ShreddyEddy8D 1 year ago
@ShreddyEddy8D The only guitar I have with a satin finish is the loomis. I never found gloss necks to be slow. I find that the trick is to just use guitar polish and clean the neck every once in a while. If you have issue with it still, you could wax it.
Also, the black atx is satin like the loomis.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
Hey buddy, great review. Do you have any experience with the V-7 Hellraisers? If so what do you think? They have them onsale and Im thinking of picking one up.
dlbrad77 1 year ago
@dlbrad77 Nope, don't even think I have seen one in person.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
@dlbrad77 yes dude i bought one and they are sick! emg707tw! one thing i would say is get a thicker 7 string if you play in drop A maybe a 60
poiuytrewq95 1 year ago
@poiuytrewq95 .060 is not much thicker than the .059 that comes on the guitar stock. Schecter uses D'addario strings and their EXL110-7 set is .010-.059. The low B string used to be a .056 a while a go but it changed a couple of years back.
I use the EXL 110 set + a .062 for the low A. I am thinking of trying the .010-.052 set for the top 6 and a .064 for the low A next. My 8 string is set up with the first 7 strings at that tension.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
i swear you are the oinly person on youtube Not playing some fgt band cover on this guitar. You sir, are my hero.
MegaBeartrap 1 year ago
@MegaBeartrap hahah, thanks,
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
Did you ever end up switch the Bridge and Neck p.ups?
mudshovel508 1 year ago
@mudshovel508 No, definitely didn't. Not sure if I will.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
hahaha you said that korean joke with a straight face
phantomZ400 1 year ago
hey mate i orderd one of these and im used to the les paul, i was wondering does it still have the dots on the top for the frets thanks
Mitchimus21 1 year ago
@Mitchimus21 Sure does.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
You've got really cool guitars dude and I'm looking forward to ordering my 7 string, but I'm a bit confused about something, so I'd like to ask you. What's the difference between playing a 25.5" and a 26.5" scale 7 string guitar?
krivatakirka 1 year ago
@krivatakirka The neck is usually slightly longer, fret spacing is slightly larger, and the tension would be tighter with the same string gauge, thus making the lower notes have more clarity.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
what a beautiful guitar, i'm absolutely impressed by the long sustain and tight distortion.
xlowpitch 1 year ago
thumbs up for the little santana/everlast riff i seem to play that once in a while too when just messing around
nismomax1989 1 year ago
Whats the difference between the schecter hellraiser and the atx blackjack? I'm considering the schecter hellraiser c-7 whenever I save up enough money but I wanna buy the best quality guitar of the two.
knoxled 1 year ago
@knoxled Hellraiser has a rosewood fretboard where as the ATX has ebony. The hellraiser has dual EMG 707's and the ATX has a blackout bridge an neck p'up. Overall, the hellraiser will be darker sounding, which can be a problem with the lower notes.
The black ATX is a satin finish as opposed to gloss. The instrument should have better natural acoustics and therefore sound better plugged in.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
@DarkKnight369 so you think i should go for the blackjack instead? could i still get one thats the same color as the hellraiser?
knoxled 1 year ago
@knoxled Not to be a dick, but have you even bothered to look at Schecter's site for the specs, color choices, etc? I just feel like you are asking questions that you can see for your self a lot quicker than I can answer.
Go with whatever you want. The ATX has different colors...its satin black and vintage white. The Hellraiser is gloss black, snow white, and black cherry.
Have you looked into the Schecter custom 7? I would definitely consider it....
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
@DarkKnight369 I dont have time to look for the specs. Im asking you these questions while im in a class right now. i only have a certain amount of time so i choose asking you these questions instead of taking alot of time looking for details.
knoxled 1 year ago
@knoxled I don't mind answering question...but in the time it took to ask all these questions and read my responses you could have found this out on your own. There is no excuse or anyway to cut around it...asking me these simple things just means you were too lazy to look for yourself.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
@knoxled Again! I am in a class! its too complicated to explain just forget it.
when you said "Not trying to be a dick but.." you should have just left it at "Trying to be a dick"
knoxled 1 year ago
@knoxled I am at work, what is your point? Maybe you should pay attention instead of asking redundant question on youtube. Its mind boggling how you can post comments on youtube from class but can't google something. Amazing.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
hi DarkKnight369 ...
I want to ask if the guitar that you acquired (Blackjack - C7) is manufactured in INDONESIA or USA
Be attentive to your response... thanks
SEBASTIANBLASFEMIA 1 year ago
@SEBASTIANBLASFEMIA Korea actually. Most Schecters are made in Korea...some are made in China but they should say that somewhere.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
santana
GRYNreaper001 1 year ago
"100 koreans to jack off in a bucket of white paint"
lawl
alexxsssx 1 year ago 59
@guitarsalert Actives are like EMGs and Duncan blackouts...that have battery powered preamps. They are generally more powerful and in my opinion offer more clarity.
I don't remember how much I got it for since I bought it in 2008. I want to say it was either $700 or $800 at the time.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
can you tell me what is better between schecter c-1 custom and schecter c-1 blackjack atx for metal hardcore music but i want the clean sound also sorry for my bad english Thx bro :))
faren66 1 year ago
@faren66 Either will be fine...just depends on rather you like active or passive pickups.
DarkKnight369 1 year ago
@DarkKnight369 wats the difference ?
guitarsalert 1 year ago