Enrico Pace plays Liszt - Dante Sonata (part 1 of 2)

[StephanTV1221]

i heard the first two sounds and i remembered the hungarian rhapsody no. 2 of liszt. Both brilliant! and a brilliant performance by pace! Bravo!

[Laudan08]

This. Is. Best. Performance. Since. Liszt.

[sandiegokid5]

can someone post a link to the sheet music for this please!

[BloodlineMedia]

@sandiegokid5 imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg­/e/ee/IMSLP04070-Ann__esDeP__l­erinageDeuxi__meAnn__e_Italie_­S161.pdf <-- page 31

[sandiegokid5]

@BloodlineMedia thanks



[MsFloopdedoop]

I love the dante sonata. Liszt did a good thing aha!

And i've never herad Enrico Pace until today! He is a great pianist.

[tag2man]

@123mazeppa 666

[classicalmusic29]

Is he playing a Fazioli? Looks like it....sweet.

[Vesivian]

Hell never sounded this beautiful.

[12apaul]

Pace OWNS this piece of music. Utter brilliance to a work which scares the hell out of anyone listening...mezmerising......i­ntoxicating.......

[loboris1995]

listen to Sofronisky ;)

[stoilbg2001]

breath-taking!!!

[JPBerger71]

@123mazeppa

Well, most pieces by Liszt are _very_ hard to play. Comparable to Scriabin, Alkan or Godowsky, so only the best pianists should try to play stuff like the Dante Sonata. If you are not one of the top technical players, you should stay away from it. If you know that piece, you will notice several glitches in Pace performance. Good recordings are from Howard, Pletnev, Leonskaja and Hough.

Pace plays it well anyway, because he brings life to the music - or better death, it's about hell..

[daledaddy1]

Pace is amazing....Love his style of playing especially when he plays Franz Liszt. BRAVO!!!

[123mazeppa]

What Grade is this piano piece in?

[mrnanovideos]

@123mazeppa Depending on which standards you go by, an 8+ or an !0+.

[GianlucaPoliti]

@mrnanovideos There is no grade for this piece. Professionals attempt this, anyone else trying to do is stupid.

[dominicbalabat]

WOW!! FULL OF PASSION!!! I love it...

[ynnek12pd]

Liszt is an amazing composer

[newFranzFerencLiszt]

@ynnek12pd yeah, he is (was, unfortunately...)

[SaigheadBhriste]

Great performance - I love the way Enrico Pace's hair shakes during the intense parts. Dante Sonata is one of my favourite tritone pieces and Pace plays it superbly.

[Darius92Mutinensis]

we want his hands not his face ;)

[JakWho92]

Fazioli rules =)

[torontochopin]

One of the best interpretations of this highly programmatic music by Liszt on You Tube. Pace's very imaginative playing gives us a true listening experience of hell, creating a feeling of terror and dread in the first 102 bars alone. With lesser pianists of limited imagination, and there are a lot of them on You Tube, this piece just becomes a showpiece, completely missing its essential meaning. But with Pace, it becomes what Liszt wanted us to feel: a terrifying experience of hell.

[pianolistenerk]

@torontochopin who do you think is the very best, or comparable??? thanks

[Volerto90]

ci sono delle imprecisoni seppur lievi ma a certi livelli se 1 vuole andare a fare 1 concerto nn deve sbagliare delle cose evidenti all'orecchio d 1 principiante cm me e cmq in alcuni punti emerge la debolezza delle sue dita...

[Ellinidara]

Ma quale debolezza...è uno dei virtuosi di un tempo...ovviamente poco riconosciuti in Italia.Con dispiacere devo dire che l'Italia talentuosa e meravigliosa spedisce le sue meraviglie all'estero.Qualcuno mi spieghi perchè...

[frederickfrederikfre]

@Ellinidara E te lo spiego io.La storia si ripete.È già successo nel passato e continuerà a succedere.Però questo si,ad un Allevi gli si fanno tutti gli onori.Bah!!!!

[LisztBusoni]

@Volerto90

Scusa se ti contraddico, ma anch'io l'ho suonata, e devo dire che le sue imprecisioni sono del tutto trascurabili (e poi non ne vedo tante).

[HooksGambit]

Heartwrenchingly beautifull..

[felicidadea]

es lo mas chingon de este mundo

[annebgriffiths]

It seems like fazioli's have that quality.. Theres a recording of maksim (UGH) playing on one, and the tone is shallow to

[xujia1001]

Maybe the best performance on Youtube, only Cziffra's recording is better.

[VikingBerserker]

Is that a Fazioli grand?

[deandusk]

i think so

[RudikKit]

Dante Sonata is always that astonishing for me whenever I listen to the piece.

[NeoComposer]

Umm...I prefer Brendal's interpretation than this guy. Pace doesn't seem to make a "solid" interpretation of the phrases. Not only that, but I heard a slight mistake at 4:52.

[DennisChoy1]

it's very different between them . I think Brendel's playing is more like Beethoven . and this guy's liszt is more like Chopin . But I would say Pace's playing is more likely Liszt .

[Thracozaag]

Didn't do it for me.

[FranzLiszt2]

this guy is excellent at playing Totentanz

[AllUserNamesTaken111]

this guy sucks at playing the Don Juan Paraphrase...

[dentistefou]

hi all, me too i love this piece what i'm playing now, i'ver ever heard best interpretations but this one is correct. I'd like to know what are best other pieces u love of all composers and of this level thx ;)

[FranzLiszt2]

To Start with, Franz Liszt as my favorite composer; He is much respected upon my obedience as a worshipper of him. Hmm this level of pieces,,, confusing; aaah! Liszt's Totentanz is also very good from liszt. The Totentanz is a more advanced complex piece to play as with help fromm the orchestra. requires a 4/5 technique from it's desired player.

[FranzLiszt2]

Da Bist.

[FranzLiszt2]

one of my favourites from Liszt and perfect playing. (Work out on interpretation).

[John11inch]

Brendel + Apres une Lecture du Dante? That's a joke, right?

[steinwaysons]

What's your problem with Brendels version? :)

[galapz]

Problem is that Brendel's Liszt sounds like his Beethoven and his phraseing is all square.

[FABrendel]

It is amazing how one of the greatest if not the greatest performer of all time is criticized by ignorant people. Brendel´s Liszt square? Jaja yeah, i can see that you know what you are talking about.

This interpretation does not even compete with Brendel´s. It lacks mood, fluidity, speed and general structure.

[galapz]

I didn't say that this interpretation is good. You have to play and hear many more performances of this and other music. Liszt played by Brendel does have general structure but it is lacking fluidity and in terms of sound and colour it is all very similar. I have heard Brendel live in this Dante Sonata and more

Try to get Emil Gilels recording

[FABrendel]

Music is proportioned my friend. Therefore abrupt changes of musical intensity is neither frequently acceptable nor good at all. Brendel is the only pianist who doesn´t modify tempos. Most of piano players over-exaggerate the pieces, trying to be more sensitive and expresive, but the effect they cause is totally negative. Brendel is simpler and shows much more deepness and truthfulness to the composer´s will than anybody else.

[FABrendel]

An achievement that makes him different and musically superior from every point of view.

[galapz]

Beethoven, Schubert, Mozart, Haydn, Yes but Liszt, Rachmaninov, Debussy, Chopin, Sorry No. Brendel doesen't sound well there.

[FABrendel]

First of all he haven´t played neither Rachmaninov nor Debussy. Secondly, he does sound well playing Liszt. The thing is that romantic performers fall into what i have already said of over-exaggerating the pieces... but ok it´s your opinion."Within the borderlines (of the pieces) there is a certain amount of freedom for the player, but if you don´t realize the bordelines and overstep them and ignore them you misrepresent and forcify the piece".

[FABrendel]

This is what makes Brendel superior... he doesn´t play what he wants as most pianists do. You would think that this makes him a machine or unnatural, but on the contrary it gives him more freedom.

[galapz]

Brendel Playing Mozart concertos is outstanding and very few pianists can play Mozart like that. This guy here can't even touch Beethoven or Mozart.

[FABrendel]

Brendel is the most faithful pianist to musical labels, therefore he will never play something that was not meant to be played. Every note is justified under Brendel´s hands.

I have both recordings of Liszt´s sonata in B minor performed by Brendel and Arrau. If you have them both, play them, and you will see objectibly, that Alfred´s interpretation is superior.

[FABrendel]

Arrau modifies tempos at will, as well as musical details. You will also note that Brendel´s performance is much more fluid, rithmic and expressive. In the smooth passages Arrau decreases speed trying to express deeper things as if that would make a change. But on the contrary Brendel keeps the tempo and plays much softer, hence, beating Arrau´s performance by musical, fluid, deep, smooth and melancholic sounds. This same differences apply to any piece he plays.

[FABrendel]

You can ,however, prefer Arrau playing Liszt. But you are prefering an inferior interpretation from a musical point of view. You are prefering an adulterated performance and one that is full of subjective and wrong-interpreted details.

[lourak]

Your admiration for Brendel is well-founded and you make many valid points pertaining to his pianistic and interpretive skill - however - personally, though I respect many of those qualities in his playing, I find that he lacks command of the more subtle and complex sonorities of the instrument - (this relates to handling of inner voices, legato playing, overlapping of tonalities, etc.) and this is critical in Liszt. Just an opinion...

[galapz]

Alfred Brendel Is a very intelegent person and he doesen't play those composers because he is aware of his sound. I amire a lot of his performances and his aproach in music in general. All I am saying that his Liszt is played on very highest academic level but there is no molto cantabile, molto legatissino ...

Claudio Arrau is a very inelegent pianist and was a student of a Liszt's student, at the same time he does not "over-exaggerate" but his sound is what Liszt sound should be like.

[cziffra1980]

You show a total absence of knowledge about Liszt's will. He once stated that a performance cannot be too free.

[FABrendel]

Haven´t you seen that i quotated Brendel saying just that ,buddy?

This shows your animosity towards the greatest pianist and the ignorant way in which you tried to correct me, when i was saying the same... try harder next time.

[cziffra1980]

It's not ignorant. YOU are ignorant because you believe the nonsense spewed by Brendel without taking the time to explore Liszt's actual intentions. Liszt did not want uniform tempos and it is not faithful to his music to offer them.

[FABrendel]

Jaja yeeees... the greatest, most famous and critically aclaimed interpreter of our time talks nonsenses, and the non-existent, abysmal player and ignorant little student you are, talks the truth.

I am the one who knows about Brendel, clearly not you. Therefore re-read my quotation and perplexly stare at your stupidness. Learn from THE master.

[cziffra1980]

It's a shame you're so obsessed with Brendel instead of thinking for yourself and doing your own research. You might learn something about Liszt, if you looked for more direct sources of knowledge.

[FABrendel]

Yeah, like you, who being nobody, try blindly to find imperfection where there is almost total lack of it.

I did my own and quite deep research about Brendel. That´s why i like him that much. Otherwise i would give your stupid-ful arguments a try. YOU should learn about Brendel, because your saying and constant contradiction is so ridiculous it´s becoming funny.

[cziffra1980]

Fuck Brendel. Do some research on LISZT before regurgitating the crap that you believe is faithful to Liszt's intentions.

[FABrendel]

Jaja wow... what mannered attitude you just showed me... I really pity you buddy... that is what envy and ignorance is about... being at the bottom you criticize the one at the peak.

I must really use this argument to finish with your stupidness... Who is the one at the top Brendel or you? or maybe i should also include me in that comparison (so that you don´t feel lonely). The answer is clearly Brendel.

[cziffra1980]

Who cares? That doesn't make him less of a fraud.

[FABrendel]

But that makes you the most stupid being i wasted my time writing to. All the geniuses out there are criticized by the ones envying their posts. That happens everywhere and in every artistical-sphere. I can see no difference in you... You will NEVER NEVER, believe me, play a single note in the way MR Alfred Brendel does... he is an eminence between eminences... are you are nobody, who as a consequence,

talks in an unreliable and laughable way.

[cziffra1980]

I should certainly that I won't play a single note as he does. His tone is awful and the intellectual premises that he creates to justify his stiff performances do not stand up to scrutiny. If you took the time to make up your own mind through research (instead of giving your worship without question) then you might learn something about what Liszt actually wanted in his music.

[FABrendel]

Jajaj where does your arrogance come from? No... he should comb his hair during play-time hence he is able to play like an homosexual. Brendel´s tone is unparalel and his intellectual premises certainly overcome any competitor. That´s why he, who neither had any musician nor piano facilities as every other pianist of (almost) his level had, is where he is.

[cziffra1980]

Research these premises please, before you have the nerve to put across an argument that is based on the fact that you believe Brendel is a deity. Think for yourself instead of trusting his word as gospel.

[FABrendel]

Stop using that repetitive and boring argument buddy.

I have countlessly told you that i studied Brendel more than you could have studied piano. My stance is the consequence of that extensive study. I should say that to you... but before you should try to understand what humility is about... a thing you lack in tons. No better resource than the one at the peak... thanks.

[cziffra1980]

Don't study Brendel you ignorant bufoon. Study MUSIC and HISTORY! Are you seriously unaware of just how ignorant you sound?

[FABrendel]

Jaja you are becoming loca... c´mon don´t be too obvious with your sexual preferences.

I graduated from "Juan Jose Castro" conservatorio, and the subject history of music as well as musical language (those things you ignore) were included as well. My teacher learnt from De Racco who is a quite importante interpreter and i pretty much know everything i need, to support Brendel and his perfection.

[cziffra1980]

You might a bit more if you did your own research.

[nico22059]

yo a Brendel lo encuentro demasiado frío y cerebral...escuchalo a Cziffra, y hay otra pianista, Marina Scalafiotti, que la toca muy bien...

[maddorox]

its the piano but still a good pianist should make any piano (any tuned piano) sound to there advantage so i certainly agree with u :)

[cziffra1980]

Seeing as you apparently misunderstood, the quote means a performance CAN not be too free, not that it SHOULD not be too free. It can't be free enough. Look to Liszt, not to Brendel, if you want to know what is truly faithful.

[FABrendel]

NO! And you are becoming more stupid than i thought, and believe me, that is really worrying.

What he said is that there is certain amount of freedom for the player who must not over-step the boarderlines of that freedom to avoid miss-representation... clear as water, obviously unclear to an under-educated pseudo-musician like you.

[cziffra1980]

What LISZT said is that a performance CANNOT be TOO FREE (ie. CANNOT be FREE ENOUGH). Comprende? Brendel is talking nonsense.

[FABrendel]

There who is the best to understand Liszt? I´ll leave that part for you... you might find an answer.

[cziffra1980]

What? That setence doesn't make sense. If you actually have any interest in Liszt then try looking to LISZT and not Brendel. Maybe you'll learn something that is not 3rd hand and entirely erroneous.

[FABrendel]

Nobody has nor had the half-honors or half-achievements that Alfred posess. So of course, i want to learn from the best, not form the mediocre.

[cziffra1980]

Learn from first hand history, not 3rd hand waffle that is not supported by evidence.

[cziffra1980]

Brendel never said a peformance cannot be too free. You claimed that Liszt wanted performance in restrictive consistent tempos. He didn't.

[alcyone77777]

Fantastic!

[pianofan86]

Thanks for posting this! I absolutly love that piece. I find the interpretation very good, even it's less poetic than Brendel. But anyway, very impressive technique and very good performance.