Lifters and Electrogravity: Propulsion Possibilities Revealed

[Mightyaurrod]

Fucking Steins;Gate brought me here.

[Dentarthurdent54]

1) It is dangerous to go alone.

2) Take this.

3) Test it in a vacuum, and I'll be interested.

4) "Phenomena" is plural. "Phenomenon" is the proper singular form.

5) The science and technology behind ionocrafts are not "withheld from open access". They're widely known to anyone who studies electromagnetism, and free to view for anyone who is curious. The reason ionocrafts are not popular knowledge is that they're nifty, but so inefficient that they're essentially useless for transport.

[StocktonVI]

Excellent explanation. You are very smart.

[emwavemhz]

That is classified information. Our Military Industrial Complex does not care about our needs to travel, improved technology and space travel. Their only concerned about how to kill more people faster with greater efficiency and apply that to expanding their World Empire. War is a racket!

[adam3176]

yea your right.. Nasa lies we are being programed.. the truth will come out

[RODOLUKOS]

The answer to yr question is very simple. If this tech was being given to everyone, a financial catastrophy whould occur to the oil companies. They have to find something else to sell us first blackmailing our life and taking away our working earnings making us poor and despert, during they become billionairs. And if you think who has those oil companies? usualy powerfull people assosiated with goverments. There is free unlimited power in the universe. we are just living in the oil darkness.....

[UnderManlac]

You don't seem to realize that this technology has been investigates and tested. It is of no use to aviation. Ion engines have been considered by NASA, but so far, they're not effective enough.

Electro-graviitics is a buzz word that makes no sense. I have a degree in electronics and have done extensive studies on magnetism, space, time, and gravity, which fascinate me. There is no co-relation between electo-magnetism and gravity. Clearly you do not understand gravity in any way.

[SASNIGHTCRAWLER]

@UnderManlac A high velocity, pro-mass bearing drive will create a gravitational warp around the craft, thus allowing the craft which is sitting within a lower gravitational field to react against the heavy surrounding field creating lift, due to the down force of the higher gravitational field in relation to the lower. As you tilt the craft you create momentum, but not too much or you will crash it lol ...simples.

[SASNIGHTCRAWLER]

@UnderManlac Think of gravity like water going down a drain, where matter is water floating about in the sink and gravity is both the water and the plug hole at the same time,

[UnderManlac]

Your second demonstration proves my point. I have an electronics book that shows how to build several high voltage devices, including one similar to your device. It is called an ion engine, or something like that. I'll have to dig it out sometime. It moves because it's shooting off ions giving the device propulsion. The concept is clear and there are no claims of "micro-gravity manipulation". You are a fraudster if you continue to claim this stuff. Ion wind explains the phenomenon.

[UnderManlac]

Try to imagine that the lifter as producing an ion wind with a downward thrust. That's exactly what is happening here. I see no evidence that this device manipulates gravity in any way, shape, or form. Why is it that you now don't deny ion wind. Claims before said there was not enough ion wind generated to lift the object at all. Quit claiming gravitational effects. There is no evidence supporting it. Why don't things float under power lines?

[UnderManlac]

@rebokism It would take more energy than can ever be produced by mankind to create even the smallest of gravitational effects. Lifter's exhibit ONLY the ion wind effect, nothing more. There is a gentleman who is photographing this effect of a lifter which proves it's just an ion wind. Many experiments have been conducted to solve the question of anti-gravity with this device and all of them prove that there is no gravitic effect whatsoever.

[UnderManlac]

@rebokism Electro-magnetism and gravity have nothing in common. Clearly you do not understand either concept, or you wouldn't make such a comment. Having studied quantum physics, I am appalled by the outrageous claims of gravity being a force, or a particle, and the idea of 11 dimensions. This is something that does not reverberate well in science. Gravity is nothing more than the curvature of space-time by a mass.

[reluctantprophet7]

If you modified that triagle apparatus you'd have one of Tesla's designs... works the same... off a huge electrical charge.

[MataaaaaX]

if magnetic engines would be widely available or zero point modules you wouldn't have to pay for your electric company and that would hurt them really bad

[sciencoking]

I tried to build one of these, but my HV power source was only 15kV and it was way too heavy. I might try it again with better knowledge and equipment :-)

[xxxxdarksidexxxx]

this is random but I have been pondering; could you apply a high voltage current to lets say a front or rear bumper of a car in order to help project it forward lets say for a 1/4 mile drag race? LOVE your video here, so much so I subscribed. Thank you for your videos, voice, and time. I know you are not getting paid for these videos but that didn't stop you, so thank you!

[pauliexcludedable]

Shroud of electro-kinetic energy:)...wow....Electro-kine­tic momentum....wow....Technobabbl­e...I luv Star Trek....

[Kevinwozzer]

Great presentation

Do you have any drawings or parts list to produce a lifter

Kind regards from England

Kevin

[pauliexcludedable]

@Kevinwozzer Beamship is a gooberface and is, with regards to his understanding of physics, a total wackjob. However he does sell kits for these devices as well as plans and power supplies. Just note my warning to you earlier regarding the power supply. They are dangerous. I can't speak as to the quality of what he sells however I would just do a google search for plans.

[Kevinwozzer]

Hi

I have just come across your site, better late than never. Really interesting video, well presented.

Do you have any drawing available as I would love to make the device for my Son

Kind regards from England

Kevin

[pauliexcludedable]

@Kevinwozzer Take a care, however. One of the things I have ragged on these guys about is their downplaying the danger involved in these "toys". The voltages used to energize these devices is quite capable of being lethal. And the power supply that Beamship sells is right on the line of lethal potential...thus it is not a suitable toy for anyone that does not take the time to learn how to use it safely.

[Kevinwozzer]

@pauliexcludedable hello Paul, I appreciate your concern, thanks for pointing it out. When I asked for info related to building such a device for my Son. What I should have said, I'd like to build one of these devices to show my Son. Could you imagine, someone building a unit operating at 25KV as a toy. If I did that there would be 2 deaths, 1 being my Son, the second being mine, after the wife got hold of me. Your comments are appreciated though, thanks K

[pauliexcludedable]

@Kevinwozzer Yes well...Just makin' sure everyone is safe. That being said, don't buy beamship garbage about this being super uber star trek jedij gravity drive technology. However he may be willing to shoot you some advice regarding the building procedure;) I have certainly had fun messin' with him and he seems like a nice guy...just a little nutty.

[afewminutesforyou]

the reason why we don't use this technology is that it's even less energy efficient than a combustion engine, and it doesn't work in a vacuum and it's hard to steer the object to the direction we want.

[DonOctane]

@afewminutesforyou as far as i know this effect is working with static electric field and dont consumes energy -

[pauliexcludedable]

@DonOctane Of course it consumes energy...it is doing work!  You are drawing electric current and the power dissipation is close to 100Watts! That is a CRAZY amount of power for such a small amount of work. These devices are inherently inefficient...but this does not diminish the cool factor and these guys have put a lot of hard work into these devices. They have failed, however, to demonstrate ANY evidence for gravitational field creation.

[janne808]

European Space Agency did though.

[pauliexcludedable]

@janne808 European Space Agency did what exactly?

[janne808]

@pauliexcludedable google for "Gyroscopic Superconducting Gravitomagnetic Effects"

[pauliexcludedable]

@janne808 I don't have to google it. I know what the gravitomagnetic effect is. It has absolutely nothing to do with electromagnetic so far as we can tell.

[janne808]

@pauliexcludedable ...

[pauliexcludedable]

@janne808 The gravitomagnetic effect refers to the artificial or apparent "force" that appears in general relativity due to moving masses. As it turns out (and for very good reason) this "force" takes on the same mathematical form as the magnetic field arising from moving charges in much the same way that Coulomb's law takes on the same form as Newton's law. This does not imply that one can create gravitational fields from magnetic or electric fields.

[janne808]

@pauliexcludedable The measured fields were several magnitudes larger than what general relativity predicts. They managed to model the effect by assuming that gravitons gain mass in a similar way that photons do in superconductors. That does suggest that there is some connection with these forces that's not yet understood. Atleast not in the mainstream.

[pauliexcludedable]

@janne808 Yes...the effect is greater than expected...and yes this may tell us something regarding the quantum nature of gravity. And yes, there are LOT of similarities between electromagnetism and gravity...but NO NO NO NO NO this does not mean that one can create gravitational fields though manipulation of electric charges.

[janne808]

@pauliexcludedable Rotating charge flowing with zero resistance, that's manipulating the gravitational field with electric charge in my book. Writing no with caps doesn't cut it as a counterargument with me, sorry.

[pauliexcludedable]

@janne808 It is not the moving charge that is causing the effect...it is the moving MASS. Superconductors are used because they allow us to accelerate mass to, and maintain, the very high velocities needed to obtain a measurable effect. Charge has nothing to do with it. Promise. But you don't have to take my word for it. Email the authors of the paper. They will tell you the same thing.

[janne808]

@pauliexcludedable Yeah right. The paper is explicit enough, try reading it.

These superconducting materials are actually brittle enough to make these experiments hard because they break apart in high velocities. It's an accelerational effect anyway..

[pauliexcludedable]

@janne808 The electromagnet is not moving in these experiments. Just the electrons are in motion. The reason they break from time to time has to do with losing cooling and thus they fail spectacularly. I didn't read the paper but I remember an article on this work. I will look over it more carefully to be sure it is what I think it is.

[pauliexcludedable]

@janne808 Far as I can tell I am sorta right. In on experiment they are actually rotating the super conductor. Perhaps you should send me a link. Send it in a pm to me if you have a particular paper/article in mind.

[pauliexcludedable]

@janne808 Would you like a couple papers? I'll pm their abstracts to you and if you want copies I'll get them to you so you don't have to pay for them.

[afewminutesforyou]

Do it in a vacuum; otherwise it's ion wind.

[Jesus4ULife]

Have you conducted any temporal experiments to verify the existence of a gravitational effect?

[humanoid100010001]

i like picture of steath bomber repelling water with static electricity. i saw steath bomber at air show,and from straight on view it looks just like a flying saucer.

[zmby]

Hello! I have learned general and high-voltage electricity for more more than 4 years so I know stuff starting from big power plants all the way to micro controllers. Can you provide some link to where I could find a scheme and a diagram for the device so that I could take a look into this? I wasnt taught to be a scientist but a an electrician, an engineer of electrical devices, systems or powergrids. I find this subject interesting and I wish to find out myself, do a little research on this.

[dozerminer]

ive got a strange feeling that gravity is more like static kling than just mass alone ,do to the massive static electricity generated by the elemental forces turning below the earth crust.and the emf from the sun.or maybe not ? excellent video!!!!

[Beamshipcaptain]

Exactly right.

[Beamshipcaptain]

TheBeamshipCaptain, you are dragging yourself into the mud, and possible criminal prosecution for fraud, identity-theft, and impersonation in a public-forum.

[1freedomfighter11]

" you are an idiot"

Hi flowerbower, real mature to take Beams name, who is the real idiot here?

[1freedomfighter11]

Great video, thanks for the time and work you have done.

[Beamshipcaptain]

See "The Townsend Brown Electrogravity Device," File 24-185, A Comprehensive Analysis by the Office of Naval Research, Sept. 15,1952, IRI report # 612, See the authouritative book by Dr. Steven Greer, DISCLOSURE: Military and Government witnesses Reveal the Greatest Secrets in Modern History (Crossing Point, 2001). It provides the testimony of each witness who participated in the event in Washington DC, plus many more.

[denthemen44]

thats my awesome uncle!

[xxxxdarksidexxxx]

@denthemen44 your uncle seems more then awesome, he seems bad ass!

[Beamshipcaptain]

AG Obolensky,"THe Magnetic-Force is Faster than Light," PROCEEDINGD OF THE 1986 INTERNATIONAL TESLA SOCIETY SYMPOSIUM, Colorado Springs, Colorado 5.29-5.40, Steve Elswick, Ed. also- "Electrohydrodynamics," Whitehall-Rand, Inc., March 3, 1960.

[tenkikun]

Nice Video, Thank for the info on the power supply ^_^

I wish to create a fan used for computers, im not sure if the airflow can be great enough in a 120 x 120 x 25 mm limitation in size.

(I think the 25mm can be extended to 50mm and still work in most computers)

Can you give a comment on that?

[slackologist]

great video.. thought provoking.. well done.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Everyone watching this and similar videos do yourself a favor, and obtain a copy of SECRETS OF ANTIGRAVITY PROPULSION (2008), By Paul A LaViolette, PhD, available at any bookstore, college bookstore and library everywhere. Experiments show the Biefeld-Brown effect is more efficient in a vacuum, inertialess, and force is exponential with increasing Voltage.

[jugvish]

I think that the government is hiding all of these things from us because if everyone in the world had access to these advanced technologies, it could lead the human race to extinction because we would destroy our selves with out own technology. That's why they are keeping it hidden, so that all of the technology will stay with the smarter people of the human race and no harm will come to us. I have no idea if that's right, but that's just my opinion.

[nitschke22]

i have been looking aroung for detailed instructions for the process of building these. I someone knows a video or web site, or even if they plan to make a video of the contsruction of these then i would appreciate if they let me know where to find it. thanks

[AnJelllo9607]

wow this is incredible

[11FlameDeluge11]

electrogravitics, isnt that supposed to be what ufos use?

[iLoveOlivaMunn]

no 11FlameDedouche11 ufos do not exist and if you believe they do you are going against our country according to our trustworthy fatherly like government.

[nitschke22]

lol no sarcasim at all there :D

[quidproquo2004]

This has nothing to do with gravity. This is an electrostatic effect.

[Beamshipcaptain]

High-energy electrostatics is synonymous with gravity. Magetism is created with MOVING CHARGE. Gravitation is created with STATIC CHARGE. The unifying field is the ELECTRIC FIELD.

[quidproquo2004]

If by synonymous, you mean that gravity. The gravitational force has been indistinguishable from the electromagnetic force since soon after the big bang. Today, as we know them, the electric force is the force that exists been charged particles/entities and gravitational force is that force that exists between anything made of energy (this includes matter).

[Beamshipcaptain]

Exactly right! The electric field is the UNIFYING FIELD. Moving charge creates magnetic-force. High-energy electrostatics (static-charge, at almost no current) is synonymous with gravitation. Gravity is a PUSH, not a pull.

[quidproquo2004]

I tend to think of Gravity as a "pull" because it is the bending of spacetime. Objects tend to pull eachother down the gravitational well. I still don't understand what you mean by electric field being the unifying field. In the sense that I mentioned earlier, all force fields were unified. To my knowledge, no one force is "more unifying" than the other. Also, to my knowledge, we don't have the energy capabilities to meaningfully control gravity

[Beamshipcaptain]

We have controlled gravity with high-energy electrostatics since George S. Piggot (1904), and Einstein And Laub, 1908, and of course young Thomas Townsend Brown, in 1927, Hooper and JG Gallimore in the 1970s, Podkletnov, 1990s, Roschchin and Godin, 1990s. and of course, my boss, John RR Searl since 1946.

[flowerbower]

How dare you sully the work of Einstein & Laub by listing it together with the pseudoscientific nonsense of those morons. If Searl is your boss, that clearly makes you a criminal conspirator.

Hmm, wasn't something supposed to happen this month?

[Beamshipcaptain]

Einstein and Laub,ANNELEN DER PHYSIK,V.26,1908, p.533,and p.541-2 articles on the subject of a moving capacitor with a "dielectric of considerable permeability." Specific equations are derived predicting the resulting EM fields. Translated articles are reprinted in THE HOMOPOLAR HANDBOOK, by Thomas Valone, PhD (p.122-136).

[1freedomfighter11]

part 5: You are so clueless you can not even see our atmosphere is made up of anti gravity particles, let me teach you how water a heavy molecule can hang in our air, it ionised, in case you don't understand this it loses some electrons, electron sharing causes rain again. As well as lightning (electrons.) So go peddle your crap to some 2 year olds, they might think you know what you are talking about, although I doubt it.

[1freedomfighter11]

part 4: this will lead them to understand the air being excited from the high spin state eject electrons form the surrounding air, and those electrons are added to the system, and seems how I know you wont figure this out so i will help you a plasma field found around Searls system and weight loss is exactly what one would expect if he had half a brain.

[1freedomfighter11]

part 2: they will find lightning being attracted to the crafts, And if you could think for your self instead of parroting 100 year old text books you would know Searls work is very real, electrical systems are continually feed systems, not closed loops like we are taught, in time they will discover mild ionisation around electrical generators,

[Beamshipcaptain]

Right. The SEG is an OPEN system, not a closed-loop system. It gets its energy from its SURROUNDINGS, like every electron and proton. Its surroundings are the ETHER. It is connected, like any elemental-particle, to the ether by its SPIN.

[RLore18]

You should read up on Searle. He's a giant fraudster; worse than and more successful than the infamous fraudsters Joseph Newman / Dennis Lee.

[1freedomfighter11]

part 3: encyclopedia britannica as well now known as muon catalyst fusion. I knew the Searl affect was very real when I just glanced upon it due to the fact there work kinda correlated with my work (ORMES) in that there is an anti gravity feature (they did not understand why, but i did.) And if you think suppression and manipulation of science can not happen on such a small scale look up leaked emails and the climate change scam.

[1freedomfighter11]

part 2: The Searl affect is very real. If you study some free energy devises you can see suppression is very real, start with cold fusion now that it is a fact. Watch the war on cold fusion, then check out Dr. Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY, cold fusion is now in wiki and

[1freedomfighter11]

part 1: Dennis Lee clearly jumps to the next free energy devises to come about but as for Searl there is suppression involved.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Professor Searl is no fraudster, and neither is Joe Newman. I have studied Professor Searl's SEG aqnd IGV flightframe for 23 years, and now I work with him on manned flight. A 4.5 ton, 10 foot diameter P-011 model was shipped to California in 1977 and flight tested at Edwards air base.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Professor Searl is no fraudster. He and his teams built and flew 41 levity discs, self powered inside their own vacuum, from 1952-1978. The power unit, Searl Effect Generator, was first built in 1946, financed by the late George Hines.

[1freedomfighter11]

part 1: You remind me of that Lord Kelvin guy, radio waves and micro waves are a scam, heaver than air flight is impossible, are you really as much of a joke as he was? Check out popular mechanics "wingless electromagnetic aerial vehicle" There explanation is wrong but in time they will learn and you will look like the complete idiot you are. they will find time dilation's,

[1freedomfighter11]

Hi Beam, hope all is well, have you looked up strepultion yet? Gravity is a pull but there is another field of energy by messing with the electrons that is a push, so we have both fields, Push and a pull.

[Beamshipcaptain]

All forces act in PAIRS.

[1freedomfighter11]

cool, by pairs do you mean opisits?

[Beamshipcaptain]

Yes.

[1freedomfighter11]

cool, thank you Beem, for your reply and all you do for us all.

blessings to u.

[jonnyhonda]

hey man, this is a great video! im going to research this myself.

i believe this research will be a part of the new flying machine

[Fawful5]

With Mythbusters, I think part of the problem is they're informal. Their "science lab" is just a garage, and as the title suggests, they're testing rather wild claims instead of hard science principles. Take the time they deemed the "earthquake machine" busted. It did produce a large, percievable effect, but they said, "It's still no earthquake." Hence they held the claim busted despite the scientific principle being valid. NASA though, they're just greedy. That's how monopolies work.

[LuigiElettrico]

Nice :)

I've never seen how it would behave in liquid dielectric... It could show how it finally works... Electrogravity, ion wind or timespace warp...

[trichonosis]

Excellent, thank you. Please continue to inform us.

[struglife707]

So if the weight of the unit that you wanted to 'levitate', would the voltage required to achieve the same effect proportionately have to be increased? Just curious. AWESOME video, great point at the end. Best wishes....hope that you don't encounter any MIB's in black helicopters telling you to keep your lips zipped!

[struglife707]

YES! That's awesome, I'm an alternative energy buff and I eat this kind of stuff up like candy! Keep on with this kind of stuff...the world needs it!

[darkdude142]

why doesn't he just put some light plastic sheet at the bottom, like clingfilm, this will stop air flow but still keep the median between the two contacts to complete the circut (not like the vacuum test which would have broke the circut, so no effect) if its still floats then you can eliminate the effect of ion wind as there is no circulation as it is stopped by the plastic sheet....

[Duggywuggy1]

John Hutchinson has the right Idea! Not this ion wind effect

just google " hutchinson effect" for more info

[helpmod]

The goatee is coming along nicely.

I think you should dye the rest of your hair grey, get a white suit with a black bow tie, and finish off the Colonel Sanders look.

=)

[jca245]

There was a Mythbuster episode that showed the lifter would not work in a vaccuum. Its seems to be all about Ionic air movement so would not work well in space

[PhiHelix1]

Why not rig a regular plastic bladed house fan with this hi voltage lifter technology to show that the motor can get the blades up to a higher speed after the lifter voltage is turned on?

[m3sca1]

lets not forget the increased safety that could be added to a space re-entry vehicle,by pushing the atmosphere away from the underbody and creating a braking force without heating the outer skin of the craft.

great video-putting it in my hidden technology playlist.

[Barnekkid]

Haven't heard from you in a while. Good vid.

[yocbjone]

good job, buddy! thanks alot!

[AirForce194]

Very interesting.

[Takilicio]

very nice video man! we want more this is very exciting!! 5/5!